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Daebo
06-28-2006, 05:34 PM
What do ya'll people know about satanism a.k.a triple 6 murda hardly ya'll people don't know nothing about it but i want everbody to give me your opinions about people these dayz worshipping the 7th crown king known as satan.

Quinn
06-28-2006, 06:01 PM
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MacShreach
06-28-2006, 06:55 PM
What do ya'll people know about satanism a.k.a triple 6 murda hardly ya'll people don't know nothing about it but i want everbody to give me your opinions about people these dayz worshipping the 7th crown king known as satan.

WTF did that guy just say? :shrug

Jamie Michelle
06-28-2006, 07:39 PM
What do ya'll people know about satanism a.k.a triple 6 murda hardly ya'll people don't know nothing about it but i want everbody to give me your opinions about people these dayz worshipping the 7th crown king known as satan.

I know quite a lot about Satanism. It is quite literally the religion of the ruling elite, and the religion of the highest levels of Freemasonry. Although most Freemasons are simply dues-paying dupes who don't know that Freemasonry the highest levels is Lucifer-worship (see further below for more on that).

To begin with, see the below very important article series which contains extensive documentation on the child sex-slave and snuff-film rings run by the globalist elite:

"The Pedophocracy," Parts I through VI, by David McGowan, Center for an Informed America ( http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com ), August 2001:

http://www.geocities.com/psyop911/pedo1.html
http://www.geocities.com/psyop911/pedo2.html
http://www.geocities.com/psyop911/pedo3.html
http://www.geocities.com/psyop911/pedo4.html
http://www.geocities.com/psyop911/pedo5.html
http://www.geocities.com/psyop911/pedo6.html

Concerning the hidden video caught by journalist Alex Jones of a dark occultic ritual performed every year at Bohemian Grove, see:

http://www.infowars.com/bg1.html

See also the full video Dark Secrets: Inside Bohemian Grove by journalist and documentary film-maker Alex Jones, which you can view in full for free below:

Dark Secrets: Inside Bohemian Grove:

http://www.archive.org/details/DSIBG

Additionally, you can view clip excerpts Part 1 and Part 2 of Jon Ronson's documentary Secret Rulers of the World, which also documents Alex Jones' infiltration of Bohemian Grove, at the below link:

http://www.sacredcow.com/allnew/index_content.php?n=multimedia_video_alex

Below can be found audio and a transcript of ABC News' Monday, April 23, 2001 World News Tonight with anchor Peter Jennings program concerning nightvision video secretly captured on Saturday, April 14, 2001 by New York Observer reporter Ron Rosenbaum of an occultic ritual conducted by the Brotherhood of Death at Yale:

"April 23, 2001 ABC News Report on Hidden Video Captured of Skull & Bones Ritual," PsyOp911, October 4, 2005:

http://www.geocities.com/psyop911/skull-and-bones-2001-04-23-abc-report.html

Also revealing, on the Nixon tapes from May 13, 1971, Nixon says of Bohemian Grove:

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"But it's not just the ratty part of town. The upper class in San Francisco is that way. The Bohemian Grove, which I attend from time to time--it is the most faggy goddamned thing you could ever imagine, with that San Francisco crowd. I can't shake hands with anybody from San Francisco."
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(From "All The Philosopher King's Men--President Richard Nixon, John D. Ehrlichman, and H. R. Haldeman," James Warren, Harper's Magazine, February 2000 http://www.prisonplanet.com/032604nixontape.html .)

Here's another interesting article on Bohemian Grove:

"Gay Porn Star Serves Moguls," New York Post, July 22, 2004:

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/july2004/220704gaypornstar.htm

Yet the Bush patriarchs just can't get enough of Bohemian Grove. Concerning Bush, Sr.'s connection with a "faggy goddamned thing" (to quote Nixon again) not just at Bohemian Grove, but in the White House, see the below Washington Times article:

"Homosexual prostitution inquiry ensnares VIPs with Reagan, Bush: 'Call boys' took midnight tour of White House," Paul M. Rodriguez and George Archibald, Washington Times, June 29, 1989:

http://sf.indymedia.org/uploads/wtpage1smaller.gif

http://www.thelawparty.com/FranklinCoverup/WTpage1.gif

http://www.thelawparty.com/FranklinCoverup/WTpage2.gif

The below documentary, Conspiracy of Silence, was produced by Yorkshire Television (U.K.) under contract by the Discovery Channel. The documentary was scheduled to air nation-wide in the U.S. on the Discovery Channel on May 3, 1994. It was listed in the April 30th-May 6th edition of TV Guide and in newspapers for that day.

This documentary exposed a network of business leaders, Washington politicians and other high officials involved in a child sex-slave ring that flew children to Washington, D.C. and elsewhere in the U.S. for sex orgies. This documentary film turned out to be very presciently named, because close to the time before airing, various congressmen threatened the cable TV industry with restrictive legislation if this documentary was aired. Almost immediately, the rights to the documentary were purchased for some half-million dollars by unnamed persons who ordered all copies destroyed. A copy of the rough-edited version of the film was furnished anonymously to attorney and former Nebraska State Senator John DeCamp, among others.

Former CIA Director William E. Colby is also interviewed on the documentary Conspiracy of Silence, wherein William E. Colby backs up the legitimacy of these charges and also talks about the real risks of assassination that John DeCamp faces for taking up this case (other investigators into the Franklin, Nebraska child sex-slave scandal were assassinated).

Below is an RM file (33.3 MB) of Conspiracy of Silence:

http://sf.indymedia.org/uploads/conspiracyofsilence56k.rm

You can download this same video in the below higher resolution format. Windows media (39.6 MB):

http://sf.indymedia.org/uploads/conspiracyofsilence2.wmv

Conspiracy of Silence doesn't attempt to go into the Satanic and human-sacrifice angle of the Franklin incident, although that is very much part of this case, as this case is directly connected to Bohemian Grove and other child sex-slave rings. For more on this aspect, see the below book by former State Senator John DeCamp:

The Franklin Cover-Up: Child Abuse, Satanism, and Murder in Nebraska by John W. DeCamp (AWT, 2nd edition, December 1, 1996), ISBN: 0963215809:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0963215809/

One of the best introductions to the background and subsequent cover-up of the above film, Conspiracy of Silence, is from the below excerpts from the book The Franklin Cover-Up by former State Senator John DeCamp, wherein he also talks about his relationship to former CIA Director William E. Colby (who himself was assassinated, as the evidence demonstrates). Do a search for "Yorkshire" to go directly to the section concerning this film:

http://www.davidicke.net/tellthetruth/coverups/decamp.html

http://mysite.users2.50megs.com/coverups/decamp.html

One of the victims, Paul Bonacci, testified in court to being forced into depraved sexual acts with men and other boys, including snuff films made at Bohemian Grove, with U.S. Senior District Judge Warren K. Urbom presiding. Bonacci won the court case and was awarded one million dollars by Judge Urbom.

Below is the text of the ruling by Judge Warren K. Urbom mentioned above:

Paul A. Bonacci, Plaintiff vs Lawrence E. King, Defendant, 4:CV91-3037, Memorandum of Decision Filed February 22, 1999:

http://www.raven1.net/ra1.htm

Below you can read more on the above case. Scroll down to the section entitled "Snuff kiddie porn at Bohemian Grove," where you can read a transcript of an interview of former State Senator John DeCamp:

Bohemian Grove Dirt:

http://www.geocities.com/bohemian_grove_dirt/

For much, much more on this subject, see the below post by me:

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"Jesus says: 'Whoever has come to know the world has found a corpse. And whoever has found this corpse, of him the world is not worthy.' "--the Gospel of Thomas, No. 56, translated by Stephen J. Patterson and James M. Robinson: http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/gth_pat_rob.htm

The Hypostasis of the Archons (i.e., The Reality of the Rulers):

http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/hypostas.html

The above ancient Christian scripture is from the Nag Hammadi texts. As Elaine Pagels wrote in her book The Gnostic Gospels ( http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/religion/story/pagels.html ) concerning the Nag Hammadi texts:

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What Muhammad 'Alí [al-Sammán] discovered at Nag Hammadi, it soon became clear, were Coptic translations, made about 1,500 years ago, of still more ancient manuscripts. The originals themselves had been written in Greek, the language of the New Testament: as Doresse, Puech, and Quispel had recognized, part of one of them had been discovered by archeologists about fifty years earlier, when they found a few fragments of the original Greek version of the Gospel of Thomas.
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The above text of The Hypostasis of the Archons starts off with a reference to Paul writing in Ephesians 6:12 (for more on this, see below).

It should be noted that in Genesis, the word which is usually translated as "God" is in the Hebrew *gods* (i.e., *elohim*), which is plural. This is the reason that the English translations have "God" referring to "himself" (rather, themselves) in the plural (e.g., "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness ..." [Gen. 1:26]).

Jesus and the New Testament teach that Satan (a.k.a. Samael*) is the god of this world and that Satan is the ultimate ruler over all of the earthly governments, and that Jesus in His Second Coming is to utterly abolish all forms of mortal government and destory all of the mortal rulers of the earth, making the truth-seekers in this world absolute self-rulers and kings of their own domain upon the earth.

It's interesting to note that the Satanists also recognize Satan as being the god of this world--to quote Madame Blavatsky (i.e., the Mother of the New Age movement), 32° of the Ancient and Accepted Primitive Rite Grand Orient of France and founder of the Theosophical Society, on this, "It is 'Satan who is the god of our planet and the only god,' and this without any allusive metaphor to its wickedness and depravity." That quote is opposite a page entitled "HOLY SATAN" in her book The Secret Doctrine (1888), Vol. II, pg. 234. For many more such quotes from highly regarded, high-level Masonic authors, see further below.

Indeed, the Yezidis, most of whom are in Iraq, and who quite literally worship Lucifer, likewise recognize Lucifer as the god and ruler of the Earth. Their religion has existed since at least the 12th century. For more on that, see "Sympathy for the devil in a land where Lucifer reigns," Lynne O'Donnell, Irish Times, April 21, 2003 ( http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/world/2003/0421/4209123277FR21LUCIFER.html ).

Directly below is the New Testament doctrine on this matter:

1 Corinthians 2:6-8: However, we speak wisdom among those who are mature, yet not the wisdom of this age, nor of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God ordained before the ages for our glory, which none of the rulers of this age knew; for had they known, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. [NKJV, as below.]

1 Corinthians 15:23,24: But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ's at His coming. Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power.

2 Corinthians 4:3,4: But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them.

Ephesians 6:12: For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.

Luke 4:5-8: Then the devil, taking Him up on a high mountain, showed Him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. And the devil said to Him, "All this authority I will give You, and their glory; for this has been delivered to me, and I give it to whomever I wish. Therefore, if You will worship before me, all will be Yours."

And Jesus answered and said to him, "Get behind Me, Satan! For it is written, "You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve.'" [See also Matt. 4:8-10.]

Revelation 13:2: Now the beast which I saw was like a leopard, his feet were like the feet of a bear, and his mouth like the mouth of a lion. The dragon [Satan] gave him his power, his throne, and great authority [i.e., over all the governments of the earth].

John 12:31: [Jesus:] "Now is the judgment of this world; now the ruler of this world will be cast out."

John 14:30: [Jesus:] "I will no longer talk much with you, for the ruler of this world is coming, and he has nothing in Me."

John 16:8-11: [Jesus:] "And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: of sin, because they do not believe in Me; of righteousness, because I go to My Father and you see Me no more; of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged."

Revelation 19:19-21: And I saw the beast, the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against Him who sat on the horse and against His army. Then the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who worked signs in his presence, by which he deceived those who received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image. These two were cast alive into the lake of fire burning with brimstone. And the rest [i.e., all the kings of the earth and their armies] were killed with the sword which proceeded from the mouth of Him who sat on the horse. And all the birds were filled with their flesh.

To properly understand the context of all of what is presented within this post, see my below article, first published at Anti-State.com:

"Jesus Is an Anarchist," James Redford, revised and expanded edition, June 1, 2006 (originally published on December 19, 2001):

http://www.geocities.com/vonchloride/anarchist-jesus.pdf

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Freemason writer Eliphas Levi's head of Baphomet, i.e., the Devil, or Satan. Here's an interesting quote from Eliphas Levi:

"What is more absurd and more impious than to attribute the name of Lucifer to the devil, that is, to personified evil. The intellectual Lucifer is the spirit of intelligence and love; it is the paraclete, it is the Holy Spirit, while the physical Lucifer is the great agent of universal magnetism."--Eliphas Levi, Freemason of the Grand Orient of France, The Mysteries of Magic, pg. 428

Albert Pike's magnum opus, Morals and Dogma, is still pased out to members of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry in the U.S., and he has been termed by a number of well known Masonic authors as the Plato of Freemasonry, and even the Masonic Pope. Here is some interesting quotes of Albert Pike from his book Morals and Dogma:

"LUCIFER, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darknesss! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable blinds feeble, sensual or selfish Souls? Doubt it not!"--Albert Pike, 33° Freemason and Sovereign Grand Commander of the Supreme Council 33° (Southern Jurisidiction, U.S.A.), Morals and Dogma (1871), "19°—Grand Pontiff," pg. 321: http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/apikefr.html , http://www.sacred-texts.com/mas/md/index.htm

What's particularly interesting about Albert Pike's above quote, beyond his praising Lucifer, is that in said quote Pike is asserting that Freemasonry at the highest levels is Luciferianism, since Pike identifies Lucifer as the bearer of the "Light" which is the goal of Freemasonry. As Albert Pike says of this "Light" below:

"Masonry, like all the Religions, all the Mysteries, Hermeticism and Alchemy, conceals its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, or the Elect, and uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead those who deserve only to be misled, to conceal the truth, which it calls Light, from them, and to draw them away from it. Truth is not for those who are unworthy or unable to receive it, or would pervert it."--Albert Pike, 33° Freemason and Sovereign Grand Commander of the Supreme Council 33° (Southern Jurisidiction, U.S.A.), Morals and Dogma (1871), pg. 104: http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/apikefr.html , http://www.sacred-texts.com/mas/md/index.htm

As Albert Pike further states:

"The Blue Degrees are but the outer court or portico of the Temple. Part of the symbols are displayed there to the Initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them; but it is intended that he shall imagine he understands them. Their true explication is reserved for the Adepts, the Princes of Masonry ... It is well enough for the mass of those called Masons, to imagine that all is contained in the Blue Degrees; and whoso attempts to undeceive them will labor in vain."--Albert Pike, 33° Freemason and Sovereign Grand Commander of the Supreme Council 33° (Southern Jurisidiction, U.S.A.), Morals and Dogma (1871): http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/apikefr.html , http://www.sacred-texts.com/mas/md/index.htm

"Every Masonic Lodge is a temple of religion; and its teachings are instruction in religion."--Albert Pike, 33° Freemason and Sovereign Grand Commander of the Supreme Council 33° (Southern Jurisidiction, U.S.A.), Morals and Dogma (1871), pg. 213: http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/apikefr.html , http://www.sacred-texts.com/mas/md/index.htm

"If your wife, child, or friend should ask you anything about your invitation--as for instance, if your clothes were taken off, if you were blind folded, if you had a rope tied around you neck, etc., you must conceal ... hence of course you must deliberately lie about it. It is part of your obligation ..."--Albert Pike, 33° Freemason and Sovereign Grand Commander of the Supreme Council 33° (Southern Jurisidiction, U.S.A.), Morals and Dogma (1871), pg. 74: http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/apikefr.html , http://www.sacred-texts.com/mas/md/index.htm

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There is in nature one most potent force, by means whereof single man, who could possess himself of it, and should know how to direct it, could revolutionize and change the face of the world.

This force was known to the ancients. It is a universal age whose supreme law is equilibrium; and whereby, if science can but learn how to control it, it will be possible to change the order of the Seasons, to produce in night the phenomena of day, to send a thought in an instant round the world, to heal or slay at a distance, to give our words universal success, a make them reverberate everywhere.

This agent, partially revealed by the blind guesses of the disciples of Mesmer, is precisely what the Adepts of the middle ages called the elementary matter of the great work. The Gnostics held that it composed the igneous body of the Holy Spirit; it was adored in the secret rites of the Sabbat or the Temple, under the hieroglyphic figure of Baphomet or the hermaphrodic goat of Mendes.
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--Albert Pike, 33° Freemason and Sovereign Grand Commander of the Supreme Council 33° (Southern Jurisidiction, U.S.A.), Morals and Dogma (1871): http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/apikefr.html , http://www.sacred-texts.com/mas/md/index.htm

Below are quotes from other high-level, highly influential, and highly regarded Masonic authors:

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There exists in the world today, and has existed for thousands of years, a body of enlightened humans united in what might be termed, an Order of the Quest. It is composed of those whose intellectual and spiritual perceptions have revealed to them that civilization has secret destiny ...

The outcome of this "secret destiny" is a World Order ruled by a King with supernatural powers.

This King was descended of a divine race; that is, he belonged to the Order of the Illumined, for those who come to a state of wisdom then belong to a family of heroes--perfected human beings.
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--Manly Palmer Hall, 33° Freemason, The Secret Destiny of America (1958)

"Freemasonry is a fraternity within a fraternity. ... an outer organization concealing an inner Brotherhood of the elect ... it is necessary to establish the existence of these two separate and yet interdependent orders, the one visible the other invisible. The visible society is a splendid camaraderie of 'free and accepted' men enjoined to devote themselves to ethical, educational, fraternal, patriotic, and humanitarian concerns. The invisible society is a secret and most August fraternity whose members are dedicated to the service of a mysterious arcannum arcandrum."--Manley Palmer Hall, 33° Freemason, Lectures on Ancient Philosophy, pg. 433

"When The Mason learns that the Key to the warrior on the block is the proper application of the dynamo of living power, he has learned the Mystery of his Craft. The seething energies of Lucifer are in his hands and before he may step onward and upward, he must prove his ability to properly apply this energy."--Manly Palmer Hall, 33° Freemason, The Lost Keys Of Freemasonry, pg. 48

"I hereby promise the Great Spirit Lucifuge, Prince of Demons, that each year I will bring unto him a human soul to do with as it may please him, and in return Lucifuge promises to bestow upon me the treasures of the earth and fulfil my every desire for the length of my natural life. If I fail to bring him each year the offering specified above, then my own soul shall be forfeit to him. Signed ....... {Invocant signs pact with his own blood}"--Manly Palmer Hall, 33° Freemason, The Secret Teachings of All Ages (1928), pg. CIV: http://web.archive.org/web/19981203083524/http://www.brotherblue.org/libers/manly.htm , http://www.hollyfeld.org/heaven/Text/Magick/Misc/manly.txt

"Manly Hall's great work is a classic in the world's literature. It will guide historians, philosophers, and lay seekers of esoteric wisdom for centuries."--Edgar Mitchell, Sc.D., Apollo 14 Astronaut, on Manly Palmer Hall's The Secret Teachings of All Ages, published by The Philosophical Research Society (P.R.S.): http://www.prs.org/secret.htm

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Illustrious Manly Palmer Hall, often called "Masonry's Greatest Philosopher" ...

Like Grand Commander Albert Pike before him, [Illustrious] Hall did not teach a new doctrine but was an ambassador of an ageless tradition of wisdom that enriches us to this day. ... The world is a far better place because of Manly Palmer Hall, and we are better persons for having known him and his work.
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--Scottish Rite Journal, September 1990

"Lucifer comes to give us the final gift of wholeness. If we accept it, then he is free and we are free. That is the Luciferic initiation. It is one that many people now, and in the days ahead, will be facing, for it is an initiation into the New Age."--David Spangler, Director of United Nations Planetary Initiative, Reflections on the Christ (1978), pg. 45

The influence that these high-level occultist writers have had on recent history cannot be underestimated. For example, Hitler's obsession with the concept of the Aryan Race is very much an occultic doctrine which can be traced back to, in part, Madame Blavatsky's writings.

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The true esoteric view about "Satan," the opinion held on this subject by the whole philosophic antiquity, is admirably brought out in an appendix, entitled "The Secret of Satan," to the second edition of Dr. A. Kingsford's "Perfect Way." No better and clearer indication of the truth could be offered to the intelligent reader, and it is therefore quoted here at some length: --

...

It is "Satan who is the god of our planet and the only god," and this without any allusive metaphor to its wickedness and depravity. For he is one with the Logos, "the first son, eldest of the gods," in the order of microcosmic (divine) evolution; Saturn (Satan), astronomically, "is the seventh and last in the order of macrocosmic emanation, being the circumference of the kingdom of which Phoebus (the light of wisdom, also the Sun) is the centre." The Gnostics were right, then, in calling the Jewish god "an angel of matter," or he who breathed (conscious) life into Adam, and he whose planet was Saturn.

34. "And God hath put a girdle about his loins (the rings of Saturn), and the name of the girdle is Death."

In anthropogony this "girdle" is the human body with its two lower principles, which three die, while the innermost man is immortal.
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--Helena Petrovna Blavatsky, founder of the Theosophical Society, the "mother of the New Age movement," and 32° Freemason of the Ancient and Accepted Primitive Rite Grand Orient of France, The Secret Doctrine (1888), Vol. II, pp. 233-235 (starting on a page entitled "HOLY SATAN"): http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/sd/sd-hp.htm

"Lucifer is divine and terrestrial light, the 'Holy Ghost' and 'Satan,' at one and the same time, visible Space being truly filled with the differentiated Breath invisibly; and the Astral Light, the manifested effects of the two who are one, guided and attracted by ourselves, is the Karma of humanity, both a personal and impersonal entity: personal, because it is the mystic name given by St. Martin to the Host of divine Creators, guides and rulers of this planet; impersonal, as the Cause and effect of universal Life and Death."--Helena Petrovna Blavatsky, founder of the Theosophical Society, the "mother of the New Age movement," and 32° Freemason of the Ancient and Accepted Primitive Rite Grand Orient of France, The Secret Doctrine (1888), Vol. II, pg. 513: http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/sd/sd-hp.htm

"First Conjuration Addressed to Emperor Lucifer. Emperor Lucifer, Master and Prince of Rebellious Spirits, I adjure thee to leave thine abode, in what-ever quarter of the world it may be situated and come hither to communicate with me."--Arthur Edward Waite, 33° Freemason, The Book of Black Magic, pg. 244

"For the highest spiritual working one must accordingly choose that victim which contains the greatest and purest force. A male child of perfect innocence and high intelligence is the most satisfactory and suitable victim."--Aleister Crowley, "The Beast 666," 33° Freemason, Magick in Theory and Practice (Castle Books, 1929), pg. 95

"Those magicians who object to the use of blood have endeavoured to replace it with incense ... But the bloody sacrifice, though more dangerous, is more efficacious; and for nearly all purposes human sacrifice is best."--Aleister Crowley, "The Beast 666," 33° Freemason, Magick in Theory and Practice (Castle Books, 1929)

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I bind my blood in Satan's hands,
All this that lieth betwixt my hands.
To thee, the Beast, and thy control,
I pledge me; body, mind, and soul.
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--Aleister Crowley, "The Beast 666," 33° Freemason, Satanic Extracts (Black Lodge Publishing, 1991), pg. 3

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I swear to work my Work abhorred,
Careless of all but one reward,
The pleasure of the Devil our Lord.
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--Aleister Crowley "The Beast 666," 33° Freemason, Satanic Extracts (Black Lodge Publishing, 1991), pg. 4

juvemerda
06-28-2006, 07:44 PM

AllanahStarrNYC
06-28-2006, 08:20 PM
after u talked shit about me u want me to delete your post
and ask me through a PM
u got some cojones amigo

HA HA

DJ_Asia
06-28-2006, 08:27 PM
while im sure there are plenty of beast loving satanists out there,most that i know are basically one of 2 types

1...people who like to fuck...and fuck and fuck...mumble hail satan and fuck some more...mostly just an excuse to have orgies and kill goats

2.a few piggy poz gay men view AIDS as a gift from satan and are practicing satanists,dig on giving the gift to others...twisted if u ask me

BeardedOne
06-28-2006, 08:41 PM
1...people who like to fuck...and fuck and fuck...mumble hail satan and fuck some more...mostly just an excuse to have orgies and kill goats

Gawd, I let that woman stay in my room one night. :roll:

The only things we actually had in common were that we both owned hearses and both thought her husband was a cutie. :D

I don't know about the goat thing. I'll ask.

chefmike
06-28-2006, 08:46 PM
:what

LMFAO...this might be as bizarre as his Illuminati thread...and of course Jamie Jesusfreak is going to start spouting his paranoid drivel... :roll: :screwy

Jamie Michelle
06-28-2006, 09:05 PM
:what

LMFAO...this might be as bizarre as his Illuminati thread...and of course Jamie Jesusfreak is going to start spouting his paranoid drivel... :roll: :screwy

I'm not the one who's paranoid about evil Arabs lurking everywhere, waiting to attack at any moment. That's the paranoia that the U.S. government is drilling into the masses.

So far as conspiracies go, they are ubiquitous. Everyone is in agreement that the 9/11 attacks were the result of a conspiracy. But those who are genuinely knowledgeable and care about the truth reject fallacious conspiracy theories, such as the U.S. government's lying, self-serving, a-historical, a-factual, and provably false official fairy tale conspiracy theory concerning the 9/11 attacks.

More than four times the amount of non-combatants have been systematically murdered for purely ideological reasons by their own governments within the past century than were killed in that same time-span from wars. From 1900 to 1923, various Turkish regimes killed from 3,500,000 to over 4,300,000 of its own Armenians, Greeks, Nestorians, and other Christians. Communist governments have murdered over 110 million of their own subjects since 1917. And Germany murdered some 16 million of it own subjects in the past century. (The preceding figures are from Prof. Rudolph Joseph Rummel's website at http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/ .)

All totaled, neither the private-sector crime which government is largely responsible for promoting and causing or even the wars committed by governments upon the subjects of other governments come anywhere close to the crimes government is directly responsible for committing against its own citizens--certainly not in amount of numbers. Without a doubt, the most dangerous presence to ever exist throughout history has always been the people's very own government.

Needless to say, all of these government mass-slaughters were conspiracies--massive conspiracies, at that.

MacShreach
06-28-2006, 10:37 PM
the most dangerous presence to ever exist throughout history has always been the people's very own government.


This is weird. I find myself agreeing with several of your conclusions, but I can't get round the fact that the way you arrive at them is the most preposterous collection of non-sequiturs I've seen since......Well, probably since Reagan was incumbent.

:shrug

Jamie Michelle
06-28-2006, 10:42 PM
the most dangerous presence to ever exist throughout history has always been the people's very own government.


This is weird. I find myself agreeing with several of your conclusions, but I can't get round the fact that the way you arrive at them is the most preposterous collection of non-sequiturs I've seen since......Well, probably since Reagan was incumbent.

:shrug

Your above comment is itself fallacious. Unlike you, I don't merely make claims: I prove my statements up one side and down the other with massive amounts of hardcore documentation.

Phat
06-28-2006, 10:45 PM
the most dangerous presence to ever exist throughout history has always been the people's very own government.


This is weird. I find myself agreeing with several of your conclusions, but I can't get round the fact that the way you arrive at them is the most preposterous collection of non-sequiturs I've seen since......Well, probably since Reagan was incumbent.

:shrug

Your above comment is itself fallacious. Unlike you, I don't merely make claims: I prove my statements up one side and down the other with massive amounts of hardcore documentation.

you're ridiculous and you don't even know it haha

internet evidence, right.

MacShreach
06-28-2006, 10:45 PM
the most dangerous presence to ever exist throughout history has always been the people's very own government.


This is weird. I find myself agreeing with several of your conclusions, but I can't get round the fact that the way you arrive at them is the most preposterous collection of non-sequiturs I've seen since......Well, probably since Reagan was incumbent.

:shrug

Your above comment is itself fallacious. Unlike you, I don't merely make claims: I prove my statements up one side and down the other with massive amounts of hardcore documentation.

Which claims are you referring to, dearie?

Jamie Michelle
06-28-2006, 10:50 PM
the most dangerous presence to ever exist throughout history has always been the people's very own government.


This is weird. I find myself agreeing with several of your conclusions, but I can't get round the fact that the way you arrive at them is the most preposterous collection of non-sequiturs I've seen since......Well, probably since Reagan was incumbent.

:shrug

Your above comment is itself fallacious. Unlike you, I don't merely make claims: I prove my statements up one side and down the other with massive amounts of hardcore documentation.

Which claims are you referring to, dearie?

That my statements are non sequiturs.

Daebo
06-29-2006, 12:41 AM
G00d l00kin out with the information jamie i appreciate.

chefmike
06-29-2006, 01:33 AM
I think jamiejesus has finally found his soulmate...and I wish you both all the best...but maybe you two should consider putting down that crack pipe every now and then...

Quinn
06-29-2006, 01:48 AM
I think jamiejesus has finally found his soulmate...and I wish you both all the best...but maybe you two should consider putting down that crack pipe every now and then...

LOL.... No doubt. Talk about your not-so-dynamic duo.

-Quinn

ezed
06-29-2006, 07:38 AM
There is no Satan, humans invented him. There is no hell, you are reincarnated. If you fail to use the abilities God gave you or are an asshole with no patience, you probably come back as an ant. When you figure out what you're suppose to be doing, you get stepped on and become a worm. When you start showing some apptitude as a worm, you're impaled on a hook and may come back as a spider. Do a good job as a spider and you may be elevated to a dog. Then at least, you can lick your own crotch and sleep all day. Fuck up and bite someone and it's back to a cockroach. And we all know how many cock roaches there are.

tgirlzoe
06-29-2006, 08:14 AM
Yeah, don't you know Satan exists but God doesn't... the world just sucks like that.

Baron Of Hell
06-29-2006, 08:14 AM
Maybe he doesn't believe in a christian god but instead in one of the other ones that don't have a satan and guides humans by reincarnation.

ezed
06-29-2006, 08:24 AM
It's easy, remove yourself from all you learned and think and rationalize and realize if there is a God and he is as powerful as what we would believe and he had a favorite angel who tried to fuck him ..... would he be bothered with the whole hell thing. No he'd throw him in the trash and make a new angel. We conjured up this good and evil thing to keep us from eliminating the species. And the titular heads of all religions ran with it, seeing a chance to make some coin and achieve some power.

When you die, if there is no God, will you know it? No.

ezed
06-29-2006, 08:29 AM
you may be right, we'll find out when we die, .....or won't

MacShreach
06-29-2006, 11:07 AM
who said anything about Christianity? its funny that whenever "God" is mentioned, Christianity is automatically mentioned as well...there was religion long before the Anglo-Saxons...

in the Sumerian theology, which is the oldest organized theology known to man, Anu was the most high (God) and Tiamat would more than likely be considered the devil, whom was slain by Marduk...there is always an "evil" to foil the "good"...

The most likely model for "the Devil" is the Celtic god Cernnunos, who is more or less the same character as Pan and several others. Cernnunos has stag's legs and antlers and is a god of woodland and the hunt. He is also the god who guards the doorway to the Otherworld. (Which is where you go when you die, in that mythology.) I've attached a pic of Cernnunos.

Cernnunos is not an evil or malefic deity but is instead an integral element of the process of fertility. One of his roles is to mate with the Mother Goddess, (the earth, roughly) and so ensure the continuation of all life. Gods in Celtic mythology are not really "good" or "bad" in the dualistic way that monotheists see things. Celtic gods were either for you or against you depending on how you treated them and how they felt, and they were not all-powerful in the personal way the Christian God is. The Christian God is an emperor who rules over every aspect of the lives of all people, while the Celtic gods are powers apart from us, sometimes taking a part in our lives but more often ignoring us or getting on with their own ploys. The Mother Goddess, BTW, is by far the oldest deity we know of.

Most early Christian concerns about devil-worship and the centuries of literal witch-hunts and persecution of little old ladies, had to do with the persistence of belief in the older, Celtic religious system. Identifying as "the Devil" a god whom most peasants and country folk ("pagan" just means "countryman") looked to as an ally was a method of driving people towards Christianity, that's all.

Christianity used many devices to market itself, from straightforward torture and killing of those who would niot convert, to appropriating their gods and adding them to Christian mythology. Mary (Jesus mother) is a classic Celtic triple-goddess. She had no significant role in Christian belief until it was decided at the Synod of Ephesus in 436 IIRC that unless she was promoted, then the multitudes of Celtic mother-goddess worshippers simply would not convert to Christianity.

Christianity, at least in its Catholic form is paganism adapted to serve the needs of the Roman Empire. Ask yourself who is the successor to the Emperors of Rome, living today. As a result of this many formative Protestant thinkers, for example John Knox, saw Catholicism as idolatrous devil-worship, a view which was to persist and amplify from the Renaissance onwards, at least in the largely Protestant Northern Europe.

(The Pilgrim Fathers, of course, were "non-conformist." They were protestants but they refused to accept the Church of England, which they did not regard as a Protestant Church at all-- and they were right; Henry the VIIIth simply took over the existing structures and theology of the Catholic Church in England and declared himself head; it was done for political, not religious reasons. However refusal to accept the Church of England was to refuse to accept Henry as the spiritual leader. That was treason, punishable by death.)

Satanism per se, however, is something newer. It is in fact a relatively modern perversion of Christianity, rather than a precursor to it, which started to gather ground amongst intellectual dissidents in Europe in the 19thC. Alastair Crowleigh was a well-known "prophet" of this. As such it sits alongside Spiritualism and other movements of the era, which were formed when the new freedom of the age made it possible to explore alternative religious belief without taking the real risk of being burned alive. Anyway, that is why Satanists use the upside-down cross etc, the reversal of all things Christian. It's a protest movement more than a religion.

Unfortunately many people, mainly in my experience, Christians and related monotheists, conflate the earlier Celtic and pagan religions with this later invention. I suppose for them, being monotheistic and dualistic in their thinking, you're either right or wrong, and if you ain't Christian, you're gonna burn anyway, so who cares what you call yourself?

Anyway, here's yer man. Terrifying, what?

Daebo
06-29-2006, 02:58 PM
I think jamiejesus has finally found his soulmate...and I wish you both all the best...but maybe you two should consider putting down that crack pipe every now and then...I don't smoke crack i stay on that fyia azz herb all day everyday beside she hasn't found her soulmate.

Its a known fact i already know hell exist if there isn't no devil why do these people still kill eachother up like animals the devil presents is all around us don't b fooled.

chefmike
06-29-2006, 10:57 PM
I think jamiejesus has finally found his soulmate...and I wish you both all the best...but maybe you two should consider putting down that crack pipe every now and then...I don't smoke crack i stay on that fyia azz herb all day everyday beside she hasn't found her soulmate.


just remember that you need to exhale, mon...

Whitey
06-29-2006, 11:50 PM
Just to clear things up:

Most LaVey Satanists are atheist. The whole thing is a fancy charade, incorporating ritual and a theology(same as any religion)... but in a way that mocks Christianity by using the inverse of every symbol they cherish.

Also, the Cardinal Sin of Satanism is Stupidity. Sounds good to me.

suckseed
06-30-2006, 01:14 AM
I guess it's fun to pretend you know ANYTHING about the nature of the universe. As the esteemed philosopher Steve Walsh said, "If I claim to be a wise man...it surely means that I don't know." IMHO, satanism is goth + a backstory. Whee!

ezed
06-30-2006, 06:25 AM
I don't smoke crack i stay on that fyia azz herb all day everyday beside she hasn't found her soulmate.

Its a known fact i already know hell exist if there isn't no devil why do these people still kill eachother up like animals the devil presents is all around us don't b fooled.

Because they really are animals and find it conveinient to blame it on a devil. Us Humans, think of our selves as "special". As a species, we aren't there yet. If we keep blaming human faults on God or the Devil, it will take longer to evolve. We are special olympians on the ladder of intelligent life. Until we admit that, we won't advance to the next rung.

"The devil/god made me do it"....no, you decided to do it. You got free will, but find it conveinient to blame it on the unseen. "I am perfect, I could never contemplate such an act myself". Sounds like the predator who walks into the kitchen of what he thougth was a 12 year old boy and runs into a "Dateline" camera.

Cut the crap, stop blaming something else for you actions. It will be the down fall of the human race. TAKE FUCKING RESPONSIBILITY!!!!!!

hondarobot
06-30-2006, 06:56 AM
There is no "Satan". It's an absurd concept. Why would an "Ultimate Intelligence" have a need to create a hypothetical challenge to itself?

If there is a higher purpose to existence, it's not restricted to this pretty little rock we live on. If there is "evil" at our level of comprehension, it's our fear of asking "why?"

On the other hand, I've dealt with "ghosts" on occasion, which never seemed "evil" to me, but freaked me out. I will leave it at that.

Weird world we live in. Hehe.

scorpion
07-01-2006, 01:21 AM
I dont belive non religion.
If you belive the god you also have to belive the devil.
My opinion is that the religion is only a factor of power.
To hold the people down.

Jamie Michelle
07-04-2006, 03:02 AM
Well, boys and girls, you want to know the face of Satanism? Here it is for you:

Subject: Cutting Off Arms and Crushing Children's Testicles: Welcome to the New Freedom
From: James Redford <jrredford@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: alt.politics.republicans,alt.politics.democrats,pd axs.issues.democrats
Message-ID: <3fb8a252uiuneebuh39m6n72raqoep55cf@4ax.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 15:46:12 -0400

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/msg/eb9c6ada2281261d

In the above post I provide massive amounts of documentation where the U.S. government itself admits it is holding innocent people indefinitely without charges (including U.S. citizens), torturing them, raping them--including homosexually anally raping them--and murdering them, and that the orders to do so came from the highest levels of the U.S. government.

ezed
07-04-2006, 06:38 AM
Well, boys and girls, you want to know the face of Satanism? Here it is for you:

Subject: Cutting Off Arms and Crushing Children's Testicles: Welcome to the New Freedom
From: James Redford <jrredford@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: alt.politics.republicans,alt.politics.democrats,pd axs.issues.democrats
Message-ID: <3fb8a252uiuneebuh39m6n72raqoep55cf@4ax.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 15:46:12 -0400

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/msg/eb9c6ada2281261d

In the above post I provide massive amounts of documentation where the U.S. government itself admits it is holding innocent people indefinitely without charges (including U.S. citizens), torturing them, raping them--including homosexually anally raping them--and murdering them, and that the orders to do so came from the highest levels of the U.S. government.

Thanks, Jaimie, proves my point. The is no Satan. Just humans with other humans saying it must be Satan at work. No, it's humans at work, humans did it, humans reported. And humans do nothing about it.

But let's credit the mythical Satan and the anti-christ! He doesn't exist! If he does he's on hiatus pining for Saddam on old South Park episodes!

If it really bothers you stop typing away expending your engery on research and type away to your representatives. If you've given up on that route, throw yourself against the White House gates.

This is Hung Angels! We love erotic photographic presentations, sharing of ts information and events, good jokes, sharing emotions, not doing homework on subjects which we have no power to change. If you want to accomplish something, post to "meet the Press" or "60 minutes".

AND FOR CHRISTSAKE STOP INVOKING THE NAME OF SATAN AND START USING WE AND US AND THEM!

Satan does not want to be disturbed!

MacShreach
07-04-2006, 11:38 AM
Jamie FWIW I certainly don't agree with many of your conclusions, which are informed by your Christian religious perspective, but I certainly hope you won't stop posting. I've said before, where you end up is frequently somewhere close to where I am, sometimes I just don't agree with how you got there. I don't believe a personal Satan is at work, but I do sympathise with how your observations and the viewpoint you make them from may lead you to believe that.

Certainly don't want you to shut up.

Ezed, man, you know there are at least six people on this list whose posts I simply scroll straight past. If Jamie does your head in, just pass by and don't look.

Daebo
07-30-2006, 04:36 PM
There is no "Satan". It's an absurd concept. Why would an "Ultimate Intelligence" have a need to create a hypothetical challenge to itself?

If there is a higher purpose to existence, it's not restricted to this pretty little rock we live on. If there is "evil" at our level of comprehension, it's our fear of asking "why?"

On the other hand, I've dealt with "ghosts" on occasion, which never seemed "evil" to me, but freaked me out. I will leave it at that.

Weird world we live in. Hehe.Ya'll got to stop it with all these lies i know it and everybody on this forum know there is a devil and his home called hell.

trish
07-30-2006, 11:35 PM
sorry Daebo, i don't know it and you don't know it. nobody knows it 'cause it aint true. neither claims of revelation nor massive amounts of hardcore documentation (as jamie claims) a proof makes. that the hypothesis of heaven and hell has no content, explanatory value or use is enough to eliminate it from consideration. what makes people do dispicable things? as far as explanations go the devil doesn't hold a candle to selfishness, greed, jealously, fear (such as the fear of hell against the promise of heaven)etc.

Quinn
07-31-2006, 02:49 AM
There is no "Satan". It's an absurd concept. Why would an "Ultimate Intelligence" have a need to create a hypothetical challenge to itself?

If there is a higher purpose to existence, it's not restricted to this pretty little rock we live on. If there is "evil" at our level of comprehension, it's our fear of asking "why?"

On the other hand, I've dealt with "ghosts" on occasion, which never seemed "evil" to me, but freaked me out. I will leave it at that.

Weird world we live in. Hehe.Ya'll got to stop it with all these lies i know it and everybody on this forum know there is a devil and his home called hell.

Daebo,

If you and others are so sure about the existence of hell, how about putting forth empirical evidence of its existence?

-Quinn

hondarobot
07-31-2006, 03:10 AM
Oh for crying out loud.

Look, Daebo, I'm not sure how you can say what I'm posting anywhere in regards to anything, is/are "lies". I don't know anything, I'm a fuckin jack-ass posting on a message board.

Maybe there is a "satan". I don't even know for sure yet if there is a "God" that created said enemy. Satan would have to be pretty stupid, if it does exist.

The creator of the universe would be a pretty formidible foe to go against, especially when there is a written "prophetic" record (via the christian Bible) of Satan eventually getting it's ass kicked. It wouldn't know this was it's fate? Why would it wage a war it was destined to lose?

I get the whole "You gotta have faith" thing, but it just doesn't make any fricken sense. It's a fairy tale designed to control primative society.

Of course, by saying that, I'm probably viewed as a tool of satan now, or some damn thing.

When I see a UFO land in front of me, I'll start thinking about UFO's. When satan or Jesus show up at my door I'll ask them in, pour some drinks, have a sit down, and try to figure out what's going on.

That hasn't happened, and I don't expect it ever will.