Pleas be warned UK girls

[jennifer-english]

Hi everyone.

I hope everyone is well here...

I haven't posted here in some years (I'm pretty much off scene nowadays and had to create a new account to post as i can't get into my old email to get the password!) but felt i should warn people.

As some of you know i used to have a partner... His name on the scene is Simon Ross - He takes pictures under the name 'Simon Ross Photography' (he is on alt.com/flickr)

We split up some seven years ago and haven't had ANY contact since.... Unfortunately he keeps posting old pictures of me and others up on various sites WITHOUT ANY kind of model release form, Which as you know is needed to post/display pictures of a model.

I have had two or three sites remove pictures in the past and have today found he is at it again on flickr (he has been reported) There are not only pictures of myself but also other girls i know he does not have permission to post - Some are of girls from my old website which I own the model release forms for.. (even some post ops. who i know would be horrified)

I have no personal axe to grind with Simon, heck i hope he's happy and doing fine BUT i feel it necessary to warn any other TG girls that are considering a photo-shoot with this man to think twice.

I really wouldn't want anyone else to have this happen to them so be warned...He keeps copies of everything he takes and has no qualms about posting pics all over the internet without permission...

Tanuki there are pics of you on there and if you want them removed contact me

Sorry to be a bore!

Jennifer
x

[TSLoverUK999]

Hope all is well otherwise & your still mixing x

[robertlouis]

That stinks Jennifer. Hope you're successful quickly in getting it stopped.

The man's a fool.

[professor snatch]

Yeah, he did the same with this girl's pics.

Not sure of her name. Had em all over Flicker, they are still there.

[ed_jaxon]

Glad to hear you are doing well Jennifer!

[Weissmann]

Yeah, he did the same with this girl's pics.

Not sure of her name. Had em all over Flicker, they are still there.

That's Kim

[Weissmann]

Simon Ross if you are reading this : YOU'RE GAY!!

[Genetic]

Yeah, he did the same with this girl's pics.

Not sure of her name. Had em all over Flicker, they are still there.

That's TV Kim. She's banned from here and seems to have vanished from the internet.

[Sonny Snow]

Simon Ross if you are reading this : YOU'RE GAY!!


How hypocrite, calling another man gay on a tranny forum!

[gaiseric]

Not exactly a well thought out response by Weissmann

[Chaingunner]

Simon Ross if you are reading this : YOU'RE GAY!!

Very, quite, or just a bit gay?

[bluesoul]

Simon Ross if you are reading this : YOU'RE GAY!!

i don't think this is a good thing to say to simon ross. even though what he's doing isn't fair, being gay shouldn't be an insult. maybe you should say "simon ross, you are a bad person"

[jennifer-english]

Hope all is well otherwise & your still mixing x


Hey :O)

Everything is genuinely really good thank you. I spent the last three years sorting my life, which quite frankly was a bit of a mess out. Stopped the pron (It wasn't really for me) paid off a TON of debts, gave up the drugs, drinking and cigarettes and live a much more wholesome and healthy life :D

I still mix yes but in the last six months i have really thrown myself into producing, i have a studio at home and now play the guitar, drums, piano, uke and banjolele :D Yes my music can be very eclectic!

I hope you and everyone else here are well too

x

[jennifer-english]

That stinks Jennifer. Hope you're successful quickly in getting it stopped.

The man's a fool.

Thank you. I hope you are well xxx

Yes the mans is a fool. It's fine the police and my solicitors are dealing with it.

[jennifer-english]

Glad to hear you are doing well Jennifer!

Thank you ed :O)

Hope life is treating you well too x

[tsadriana]

Hey :O)

Everything is genuinely really good thank you. I spent the last three years sorting my life, which quite frankly was a bit of a mess out. Stopped the pron (It wasn't really for me) paid off a TON of debts, gave up the drugs, drinking and cigarettes and live a much more wholesome and healthy life :D

I still mix yes but in the last six months i have really thrown myself into producing, i have a studio at home and now play the guitar, drums, piano, uke and banjolele :D Yes my music can be very eclectic!

I hope you and everyone else here are well too

x
Jennifer we never met ,but my friends did and they have only great words about you darling.Funny Simon added me on his favourite list on flickr but i have never exchanged messaged with this fella .Love and peace x

[TSLoverUK999]

Glad to hear x

Kim is still around, if you know where to look. xhamster.

[professor snatch]

Glad to hear x

Kim is still around, if you know where to look. xhamster.

Yeah, she is still around by the looks of it

https://twitter.com/RealSlimKimmy

https://www.flickr.com/photos/tranny_kim/

http://kimsanalheaven.com/tour/

[Simon_R]

Hiya Folks

My name is Simon Ross, yep, the supposed bad man
according to Miss English.

I'm on here to clear a few aspects of UK IPR law
up for people, something Miss English seems to
be a wee bit evasive about.

All images I have taken and subsequently posted
on various sites were taken in support of an
adult website called www.jenniferenglish.co.uk.
This website was created by Miss English and
myself, her as the model, me as the
photographer.

In addition, for legal reasons, a company was
created, JLEMedia which was registered with
Company House in the UK naming both Miss English
and I as joint directors. This company was
registered both for tax reasons and to define
the products created by said company.

After the breakup of our relationship in 2007,
Miss English very swiftly renaged on a verbal
agreement to split profits from the company on a
70/30 basis in her favour. Basically Miss
English was quite happy to make money off my
hard work, and not honour the agreement she had
made.

So for clarification.....

1) Under UK IPR law as the photographer, I am
regarded as the primary owner of any images
taken by myself, NOT Miss English. In point of
fact, the ONLY rights Miss English actually has
are as her position of joint director of
JLEMedia.

2) As the joint director and creator of the
company under which the images were taken, I
retain creative rights under UK law unless Miss
English had chosen to buy such rights off me,
this never happened.

3) The images I took and use were displayed in
the public domain for a further 5 years on
www.jenniferenglish.co.uk, funny how Miss
English only cares about other models who
appeared on the site when she is now longer
making money out of their images for herself !

4) Miss English continues to use my images for
profit on her escorting site on
www.adultwork.co.uk. Rather a hypocritical thing
to do for someone who seems so embarrised about
the images that were taken.

5) I have previously discussed with Miss English
several times that if she wishes to challenge my
rights to use the images I own, to please do it
on a legal basis, rather then character
assasination, unfortunately she doesn't seem
quite brave enough to do this. Perhaps knowing I
will counter sue her for the £15k plus she owes
me from our website profits is putting her off.

And directed at one responder to this thread
@professor snatch What picures have I allegedly
been posting on the net of Kim Segal ? I have
chatted to Kim for years, but have never met her
let alone worked with her !

It was actually Kim herself who alerted me to
this post, hardly the actions of someone I had
been using images of without her knowledge

Simon Ross

[Jericho]

Oh, I say, a very British argument! :shrug
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[Simon_R]

Oh, I say, a very British argument! :shrug
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LOL Jericho

We are always polite, even we we argue :-)

Simon

[Simon_R]

Simon Ross if you are reading this : YOU'RE GAY!!

Naaa, I'm not gay, I'm bisexual and have banged girls you can only dream about without having to pay for the privilege.

Any other smart comments looser ?

[Genetic]

1) Under UK IPR law as the photographer, I am
regarded as the primary owner of any images
taken by myself, NOT Miss English. In point of
fact, the ONLY rights Miss English actually has
are as her position of joint director of
JLEMedia.

2) As the joint director and creator of the
company under which the images were taken, I
retain creative rights under UK law unless Miss
English had chosen to buy such rights off me,
this never happened.

Just to clarify, I don't see you as the bad guy in this but these two points are slightly misleading because there is an omission here.

1. As the photographer you were an employee of JLEMedia and were employed to take the photographs, therefore the pictures are NOT copyrighted and owned by you; they are the property of JLEMedia unless you wrote up a contract between yourself as the photographer and the company. By stating that Ms English has rights over these pictures as she was a director you have confirmed that the pictures are the company's property and not yours.

2. This statement would be true but you haven't mentioned that the company no longer exists as it was dissolved in 2008 so you don't own the company anymore. When the company was dissolved you would have had to have recorded the disposal of assets including the copyright of the aforementioned pictures. If in your documents there is no agreement for the disposal of the copyright then the copyright to those pictures are owned by the Crown.

In order for you to regain the copyright you will have to pay £100 and apply to the court to have the company reinstated provided the Crown will discharge unclaimed assets back to you. Then you would need to arrange the disposal of the assets between you and her.

Personally my advice to both of you is this (it does not constitute legal advice) is that you can either lawyer up and fight it out or simply come to a peaceful resolution. My suggestion is that

1. Ms English should refrain from posting negative comments about Mr Ross on the internet.

2. Mr Ross should put contracts in place with all models he works with in order to protect his rights.

3. Mr Ross should watermark or stamp his copyright on any images he produces in future.

4. Any future pictures should be copyrighted as his own copyright rather than as that of a business.

5. The images of Ms English are presumably the property of the Crown unless the two of you can come to a reasonable agreement. I am sure both parties would prefer to not have the other in their lives so as Mr Ross seems like a reasonable person as he has refrained from launching into a tirade, perhaps he would gift the rights to the photos of Ms English to her so that their business dealings are at a permanent end?

A simple document stating that the rights are permanently handed over to any and all pictures taken of Ms English by Mr Ross should suffice. Either that or perhaps a small fee, again covered by a document that states that the fee paid is the full and final amount for the permanent copyright to the images. Realistically, the images have very little value and neither of you would want to presumably contest the issue within court, where the court would decide that the photos are owned by neither of you but by the Crown itself.

[Simon_R]

Just to clarify, I don't see you as the bad guy in this but these two points are slightly misleading because there is an omission here.

1. As the photographer you were an employee of JLEMedia and were employed to take the photographs, therefore the pictures are NOT copyrighted and owned by you; they are the property of JLEMedia unless you wrote up a contract between yourself as the photographer and the company. By stating that Ms English has rights over these pictures as she was a director you have confirmed that the pictures are the company's property and not yours.

2. This statement would be true but you haven't mentioned that the company no longer exists as it was dissolved in 2008 so you don't own the company anymore. When the company was dissolved you would have had to have recorded the disposal of assets including the copyright of the aforementioned pictures. If in your documents there is no agreement for the disposal of the copyright then the copyright to those pictures are owned by the Crown.

In order for you to regain the copyright you will have to pay £100 and apply to the court to have the company reinstated provided the Crown will discharge unclaimed assets back to you. Then you would need to arrange the disposal of the assets between you and her.

Personally my advice to both of you is this (it does not constitute legal advice) is that you can either lawyer up and fight it out or simply come to a peaceful resolution. My suggestion is that

1. Ms English should refrain from posting negative comments about Mr Ross on the internet.

2. Mr Ross should put contracts in place with all models he works with in order to protect his rights.

3. Mr Ross should watermark or stamp his copyright on any images he produces in future.

4. Any future pictures should be copyrighted as his own copyright rather than as that of a business.

5. The images of Ms English are presumably the property of the Crown unless the two of you can come to a reasonable agreement. I am sure both parties would prefer to not have the other in their lives so as Mr Ross seems like a reasonable person as he has refrained from launching into a tirade, perhaps he would gift the rights to the photos of Ms English to her so that their business dealings are at a permanent end?

A simple document stating that the rights are permanently handed over to any and all pictures taken of Ms English by Mr Ross should suffice. Either that or perhaps a small fee, again covered by a document that states that the fee paid is the full and final amount for the permanent copyright to the images. Realistically, the images have very little value and neither of you would want to presumably contest the issue within court, where the court would decide that the photos are owned by neither of you but by the Crown itself.

A lot of common sense suggestions Genetic

Quite frankly, Jennifer and I could have come to an amicable agreement over this issue many years ago, however, she prefers threats over negotiation which unfortunately makes it very hard to reach any kind of closure on the matter.

She looks at it as revenge porn, yet still uses the images herself for profit. I look at it as 2 years of very hard work on my part that was done in support of a professional website created by us both.

Is there a way out of this, I honestly don't know short of sitting in a court and glaring at each other while our respective solicitors vacuum up every single penny either of us thought we would get from the other.

Like I have said in my original post, I'm not actually the bad guy in this, simply a photographer who is trying to protect his rights to a 2 year body of work that I put a huge amount of personal time and effort into.

Regards

Simon Ross

[Prospero]

I think we've now re both sides of what is clearly a complex issue and would ask that both jennifer and Simon let the issue rest in public.

[jennifer-english]

Coming on here being all reasonable, Trying to paint a bad picture of me and trying to convince people you aren't the bully you are is all very well... I do hope people can see through the bullshit.

I don't wish to discuss this with you Simon, i merely wanted to warn any one else considering a shoot with yourself to think again.

Like i said to you before, if you haven't heard from them already the police are trying to locate you and will be contacting you very soon...

I didn't and have never done anything against the law or illegal, as stated earlier the pictures belong to the company and still do. Not you the photographer (Yes i have checked this with a solicitor)

Whilst i appreciate people advising that this shouldn't be dealt with here... I wasn't attacking Simon or just trying to cause trouble i personally i think ANY girl who is considering a photo shoot has the right to be warned of people who do not practice their business ethnically and legally.

Good day.

[jennifer-english]

LOL This isn't 'complex' AT ALL

Someone posts pics they have no right to and you seem to be like, hey whatever prospero

Thats disgusting..

Anyone who thinks its fine for a guy to post pictures they have no right to of their ex. partner all over the internet for 6 years after they split up is insane

(He's 'not' a bad person really, thats perfectly acceptable isn't it?)

I mean really?

[Simon_R]

LOL This isn't 'complex' AT ALL

Someone posts pics they have no right to and you seem to be like, hey whatever prospero

Thats disgusting..

Anyone who thinks its fine for a guy to post pictures they have no right to of their ex. partner all over the internet for 6 years after they split up is insane

(He's 'not' a bad person really, thats perfectly acceptable isn't it?)

I mean really?

I will simply say to Miss English

Please tell this site and the moderators a single thing I have said in my original posting that is not 100% true.

Unfortunately Jennifer, you do seem to struggle to with the truth a great deal of the time

[Prospero]

Jennifer - it is NOT "hey ho that is alright" so thanks for telling me i am being "disgusting." I am sincerely not taking sides.

(Jennifer wrote: "LOL This isn't 'complex' AT ALL." But you also say it is in the hands of lawyers and the police. So if that is the case surely there are some cmplex legal issues here - and the whole thing might be sub judice?)

What i was saying is that that you BOTH claim to have right on your side and have both spelt out your cases. We are not a court of law here just a bunch of people who chat, look at pictures, exchange info and shoot the breeze.

I do not know which of you is right - nor I suspect does anyone else here. Nor perhaps do they care.

You've given us a warning and your version of events. Mr Ross has offered his version.

I feel that the time is right for you both to stop arguing in public in this forum about this. Carry on in PMs by all means. but let us just stop the public airing of a private row.

[AshlynCreamher]

LOL This isn't 'complex' AT ALL

Someone posts pics they have no right to and you seem to be like, hey whatever prospero

Thats disgusting..

Anyone who thinks its fine for a guy to post pictures they have no right to of their ex. partner all over the internet for 6 years after they split up is insane

(He's 'not' a bad person really, thats perfectly acceptable isn't it?)

I mean really?

I don't know anything about this person but if what you said is true than I would like to add:

what a pathetic existence

[Simon_R]

Jennifer - it is NOT "hey ho that is alright" so thanks for telling me i am being "disgusting." I am sincerely not taking sides.

(Jennifer wrote: "LOL This isn't 'complex' AT ALL." But you also say it is in the hands of lawyers and the police. So if that is the case surely there are some cmplex legal issues here - and the whole thing might be sub judice?)

What i was saying is that that you BOTH claim to have right on your side and have both spelt out your cases. We are not a court of law here just a bunch of people who chat, look at pictures, exchange info and shoot the breeze.

I do not know which of you is right - nor I suspect does anyone else here. Nor perhaps do they care.

You've given us a warning and your version of events. Mr Ross has offered his version.

I feel that the time is right for you both to stop arguing in public in this forum about this. Carry on in PMs by all means. but let us just stop the public airing of a private row.

I totally agree

Unlike Miss English, I'm not here to assassinate her character, and God knows I could, I'm simply on here to defend myself against accusations against me as I am having to do on other sites unfortunately.

This is my last post on the subject. To Jennifer, go legal, prove your case, but you and I both know you are not going to do that. Lying on the internet is one thing, lying in a court of law is a whole different matter.