I got a hunch Richard III ain't going back to the car park in Leicester.

[sukumvit boy]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/10695028/A-kings-final-resting-place-where-will-Richard-III-eventually-lay.html

[robertlouis]

As an adopted "son of York", I actually hope that his remains will come to York and be interred at the Minster. Before he became king he identified very strongly with this city and I can't help thinking that there would be a certain symmetry in his final resting place being here rather than in Leicester which just happened to be the city in which his bones were unceremoniously dumped after the defeat at Bosworth field.

When the York Literary Festival comes around next month I'll be attending a symposium to discuss Josephine Tey's masterly 1951 detective novel, The Daughter of Time, which re-examines the story of the princes in the tower.

And as my Master's thesis was on the reigns of the two Yorkist brothers, Edward IV and Richard III, I feel suitably qualified to pronounce on the matter!

[Odelay]

Wouldn't he have a pretty big parking fine to pay for having his broken down ass there for centuries?

R3 is an inspiration for all ugly guys considering he got plenty of action from the babes.

[Ananke]

Fotheringhay might want to claim his remains...

[Stavros]

http://www2.le.ac.uk/offices/press/media-centre/richard-iii/images/VickyPark1.jpg


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-IriMtHK6jZs/UDttMDYOPMI/AAAAAAAAGUs/7t35ReqWMDE/s1600/RichardIIIcartoon.jpg

[sukumvit boy]

As an adopted "son of York", I actually hope that his remains will come to York and be interred at the Minster. Before he became king he identified very strongly with this city and I can't help thinking that there would be a certain symmetry in his final resting place being here rather than in Leicester which just happened to be the city in which his bones were unceremoniously dumped after the defeat at Bosworth field.

When the York Literary Festival comes around next month I'll be attending a symposium to discuss Josephine Tey's masterly 1951 detective novel, The Daughter of Time, which re-examines the story of the princes in the tower.

And as my Master's thesis was on the reigns of the two Yorkist brothers, Edward IV and Richard III, I feel suitably qualified to pronounce on the matter!
Very interesting ,robertlouis ,thank you. Especially interested in "The Daughter of Time" , looks like a damn good read.
http://shereadsnovels.wordpress.com/2011/05/16/the-daughter-of-time-by-josephine-tey/

[sukumvit boy]

WHAT? Richard lll was NOT a murderous villain? Shakespeare got it all wrong?
Yup! As Churchill said ,"History is written by the victors".
I just finished Josephine Tey's delightful little 'detective story' ,The Daughter of Time . I haven't enjoyed a book so much in a long time.
I guess a Brit would not find the evidence presented therein so surprising , but for an American with an abysmal working knowledge of British history , it was a real eye-opener.
This has piqued my interest in the matter and I see there is a lot of interesting stuff out there on Richard lll reconsidered.
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/36451/36451-h/36451-h.htm
Thanks robertlouis , I wish I could have attended your talk at the York Literature Festival.

[robertlouis]

Fotheringhay might want to claim his remains...

Indeed. Memorial to him in the church. And of course the castle mound is all that remains of where Mary Queen of Scots was beheaded. It's a sad place.

[sukumvit boy]

The latest on Richard III.
Modern forensic studies show severe head wounds that indicate he probably lost his helmet in battle . CT scans support the argument that he was not the monstrosity Shakespeare made him out to be. He had a moderate, but well compensated , spinal scoliosis that would have been invisible with clothing.
But the war rages on about where he will be reinterred. Leicester vs York.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/sep/16/richard-iii-died-battle-losing-helmet-new-research
http://www.richardiii.net/
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/13/richard-iii-reburial-york-plantagenet-campaign-leicester-high-court

[Odelay]

The latest on Richard III.
Modern forensic studies show severe head wounds that indicate he probably lost his helmet in battle .
Interesting. I'm not as versed in English history post Henry VIII, but did any monarch ever ride out to battle after R3?

[Stavros]

Richard III was the last English King to die in battle, but not the last King in the British Isles as the Scottish King James IV (House of Stuart) was killed fighting the English at the Battle of Flodden in 1513.
The last English King to lead his army into battle (against the French), was King George II (Hanover, where he was born) at the Battle of Dettingen in 1743. He died while sitting on the toilet.

[trish]

Defeated by the Turds?

[JenniferParisHusband]

The last English King to lead his army into battle (against the French), was King George II (Hanover, where he was born) at the Battle of Dettingen in 1743. He died while sitting on the toilet.

So he died on the throne.

[martin48]

What's worse, it appears he lost his helmet in battle



Defeated by the Turds?