Is anyone else frustrated with transsexual attraction?

[jernonymous]

Hi guys,

I've enjoyed this forum for some time, but this is my first post. I apologize if this topic has already been covered in another thread.

I'm interested to know if anyone else is frustrated by their attraction to transsexuals. I am more attracted to trans women than I am to any other kind of person - male or female. Because of this, I feel like the only outlets available for my sexuality are porn and escorts. It's frustrating, and sometimes I wish I were just gay because homosexuality has received such mainstream acceptance. The problem is - I know that I'm not gay. I am not attracted to anything on a man other than his penis.

Brad Pitt on the cover of GQ does nothing for me, while Jessica Alba on the cover of Vogue does something for me, but not that much. But a transsexual porn star like Honey Foxxx? Good lord, I'm overwhelmed with sexual attraction.

What's more frustrating is that despite how allegedly open-minded everyone is today about sexuality, the rest of the world - even so-called "allies" - insists on forcing people into one of two boxes - straight or gay. Unfortunately, I don't really think I fit either category. I have a girlfriend and I love her, and I actually very much enjoy sex with her - I'm ravenous when I'm physically with her. But I don't fantasize about her when she's not around. The image of her or any other woman naked, does nothing for me in the abstract.

Anyway - I just wanted to see if anyone else here felt the same way. I'm not ashamed of my attraction, it's way more complicated than that. I just want to try and find someone to talk to who can empathize, or who will at least try to understand me.

Thanks,

jer

[undercvrslut]

Wow after reading it, I felt like I wrote it myself lol! Totally get you dude. Wish there were more solutions to the problem

[Ben in LA]

I'll admit I think about that sometimes...

[LilyRox]

Thought this was going to be one of those "is it gay?" threads lol. Yeah I know what you mean. The hardest part is we get grouped into the gay category because there isn't a lot of tgirls so most hang out at gay bars which makes a lot of people think gay and trans are related, which in my opinion aren't at all.

[Prospero]

If you live in a bigger city - London. Manchester, New York, LA for example... then you can meet girls at clubs. You don't have to go down the porn or escort route. In smaller places it is harder. (like in Indiana, clearly)

[LilyRox]

If you live in a bigger city - London. Manchester, New York, LA for example... then you can meet girls at clubs. You don't have to go down the porn or escort route. In smaller places it is harder. (like in Indiana, clearly)

Not looking :P

[Tina Francis]

"The problem is - I know that I'm not gay. I am not attracted to anything on a man other than his penis."


...I think there is a disconnect here. I was under the impression that you were gay if you liked another man's penis. Am I wrong?

[dderek123]

Yup I feel this way. I was in a relationship with a TS but it didn't work out. Now...

http://memecrunch.com/meme/VPPO/what-i-m-saying-is-all-i-really-want-is-someone-to-hold-me/image.png

[scuderia]

Thought this was going to be one of those "is it gay?" threads lol. Yeah I know what you mean. The hardest part is we get grouped into the gay category because there isn't a lot of tgirls so most hang out at gay bars which makes a lot of people think gay and trans are related, which in my opinion aren't at all.

well, cant deny that there are also a lot of gays and sissy boys who are interested in tgirls.

as long as these girls have a dick, they will always be part of the gay scene

[jernonymous]

"The problem is - I know that I'm not gay. I am not attracted to anything on a man other than his penis."


...I think there is a disconnect here. I was under the impression that you were gay if you liked another man's penis. Am I wrong?

Tina - I think that's the average person's gut reaction. However, think of the reverse: what if I LOVED vagina but wasn't attracted to the female body and instead preferred masculine bodies? Buck Angel would be my #1 crush. Should I still be considered straight? I'm turned on by the male sex organ but not by masculinity, whereas most gay men are turned on by both. I don't think gay is the right label for whatever it is that I am.

[nysprod]

well, cant deny that there are also a lot of gays and sissy boys who are interested in tgirls.

as long as these girls have a dick, they will always be part of the gay scene

Gay men and sissy boys have zero interest in tgirls.

[Tina Francis]

I think the OP has the same nature as most of the posters on here. Most, if not all, would never consider sex with another man, but enjoy it with tgirls. Many, i'm sure, would never bottom for one the girls. The 'am I gay' thing has been beaten to death on this forum and should be put to bed. As for your frustration, Jer, just try to get happy in your own skin; I know I have. Take a look at my avatar; Kay O' Hara...I never really wanted to BE Kay, but I would love to look like her!

[Jackal]

It can be a bit frustrating and lonely in the sense that it can be so difficult to meet a trans woman to talk with, date, have a real relationship, etc. Also, not even easy to meet many for platonic friends or to know other guys who are also attracted to or primarily attracted to trans women. I care a lot less about it being socially accepted or not but rather how difficult it can be.

I've been wondering about just picking up Thai and moving there for some time.

[RallyCola]

i do not agree with the OP's point regarding frustration because I'm attracted to transwomen. I feel no frustration at all. this is not a gay or straight debate and it is irrelevant whether or not strict homosexuality is socially more acceptable than it ever has been in the past. At issue is how you choose to define yourself and what norms you choose to follow. If you said you were frustrated because you can't find a transwoman to date, that would be one thing...that is just part of life because whether you want a woman (genetic or trans...doesn't matter) doesn't mean you can get a woman.

i submit that there are millions of men that would love to have a ggirl as a mate but can't find one and life a life of porn and escorts even though they are attracted to a standard issue woman.

moveover, i contend that if you were truly interested in a transwoman as a mate, and not a sexual object, you could do much more than use escorts and porn to feed your libido...you can go out to where these women are and try to impress one of them.

finally, frustration with what you like is really self-defeating. how can you be frustrated with something you choose to bring pleasure to your life. that is inherently a problem that you need to correct, regardless if that means bucking the norms you feel are placed upon you or just choosing to enjoy yourself regardless of what other's think.

i would just like the OP to step out of his box for a moment and think about the escorts he is with...or the porn stars he lusts after. These women did not like the hand that genetics dealt them so they have chosen a lifestyle of transition. don't you think you could muster a wee bit of that moxxy and own up to your sexual desires? if you were half the person a woman in transition has to be to cope with such stresses, i don't believe you would feel as frustrated as you do.

[saifan]

To answer the OP's question, no.

[jernonymous]

Wow this whole website is amazing. I think I've found some reading material for a while. Thanks for the responses, everyone.

http://www.reneereyes.com/Meeting%20a%20Transgender%20TS/People%20Attracted%20to%20Transsexuals/Common%20Admirers%20and%20Transsexuals/index.html

[jernonymous]

RallyCola - I'm not sure what prompted your aggressive response. I have never been with an escort - it just seems like the only real life option available to me because I live in a small town that lacks a transsexual scene. Furthermore, I have no idea if I'm interested in a transsexual as a mate. How could I know if I've never even met a transwoman? And finally, I have a lot at stake - a career, a girlfriend, family and friends. I know that's not unique to my situation - every transwoman who made the transition also had to deal with those challenges.

However, I'm still trying to figure out whether satisfying an intense sexual urge is worth throwing away the wonderful things that I already have. Thus, I don't appreciate your assumption that my hesitation comes from a lack of courage. I hesitate because I don't fully understand a part of myself, and I hoped other posters could offer some insight.

[newstinger1976]

I agree with Jer's posts. Back off, RallyCola. Or if you have something really meaningful to say, post the research and check your grammar. It means a lot.

[Vivian Dawn]

Gay men and sissy boys have zero interest in tgirls.

In my experience, gay men sometimes do, but a random straight dude is more likely to be into me than a random gay dude. Labels are just labels--they're just whatever box someone feels most comfortable stuffing themselves into.

[Rabbiteyes]

If you live in a bigger city - London. Manchester, New York, LA for example... then you can meet girls at clubs. You don't have to go down the porn or escort route. In smaller places it is harder. (like in Indiana, clearly)

Not really a lot of "mainstream" trans people hang out at clubs....

When I say mainstream, I mean the ones with a typical job and life. Accountant, programmer, artist, and so on. The ones who spend most of their day just working a normal job and socializing with every day people (going out to get food at a quiet restaurant instead of hanging out in trans clubs).


Because of this, I feel like the only outlets available for my sexuality are porn and escorts.

Why not date a trans person?

You know they are around right? All over?

Again, if you are looking for "in the scene" types of trans people....they are going to be more likely to be involved in sex work of some type.

Try looking "out of the scene". Okcupid...facebook... network and get involved in LGBT groups perhaps? ((Or at least get to know other lgbt people, trans people especially tend to know others in the area)).



See, this is part of the big problem....people assume trans people are just in the escort / porn world. When, actually, I know more trans mainstream professionals (game developers, hair stylists, actresses) than i do trans sex workers.

Oh, here is a tip for you. If you approach a mainstream professional in a crude way...they are going to blow you off (well, ignore or block you). Remember, these are people who are used to a bit more of a mainstream life... they have friends, they have jobs and coworkers, they have the respect of those around them, they go out anywhere they want and don't really have issues.... you actually have to impress them a bit (and have basic things like a good career and attraction going).

Some guys seem to think only the willingness to see a trans person should be enough to woo a trans person. Or they think that offering to be seen in public with a trans person is some type of amazing feat that deserves respect. It is kind of sad.

Basically, get over your issues and sort out your sexuality or internal crisis... get on with your life....and THEN try to find a trans person.

[Ciffer]

Personally I never cared which box I landed in. I enjoy TG over Cis G, that's my preference! I'm very comfortable with my sexuality and can really care less what anyone else, including my family thinks of my beliefs. Sometimes I enjoy being bottom as well as top however I don't consider myself a gay male but if others do, so what, who gives a crap.

So I am definitely not confused, frustrated, or disoriented in any way. Life is way too short to get caught up in worrying about what society thinks. They can think and I will just keep doing.

Of note; I have only been on HA since Dec 2013 and this is the second time this topic surfaced. Hope these responses help with your frustration.

[livepersona]

Hi guys,

I've enjoyed this forum for some time, but this is my first post. I apologize if this topic has already been covered in another thread.

I'm interested to know if anyone else is frustrated by their attraction to transsexuals. I am more attracted to trans women than I am to any other kind of person - male or female. Because of this, I feel like the only outlets available for my sexuality are porn and escorts. It's frustrating, and sometimes I wish I were just gay because homosexuality has received such mainstream acceptance. The problem is - I know that I'm not gay. I am not attracted to anything on a man other than his penis.

Brad Pitt on the cover of GQ does nothing for me, while Jessica Alba on the cover of Vogue does something for me, but not that much. But a transsexual porn star like Honey Foxxx? Good lord, I'm overwhelmed with sexual attraction.

What's more frustrating is that despite how allegedly open-minded everyone is today about sexuality, the rest of the world - even so-called "allies" - insists on forcing people into one of two boxes - straight or gay. Unfortunately, I don't really think I fit either category. I have a girlfriend and I love her, and I actually very much enjoy sex with her - I'm ravenous when I'm physically with her. But I don't fantasize about her when she's not around. The image of her or any other woman naked, does nothing for me in the abstract.

Anyway - I just wanted to see if anyone else here felt the same way. I'm not ashamed of my attraction, it's way more complicated than that. I just want to try and find someone to talk to who can empathize, or who will at least try to understand me.

Thanks,

jer

Have you been with a Tgirl or is this only a fantasy?

[dderek123]

Have you been with a Tgirl or is this only a fantasy?

This reminds me of Bohemian Rhapsody.

[$$$Bill]

This reminds me of Bohemian Rhapsody.
Lmao

[livepersona]

RallyCola - I'm not sure what prompted your aggressive response. I have never been with an escort - it just seems like the only real life option available to me because I live in a small town that lacks a transsexual scene. Furthermore, I have no idea if I'm interested in a transsexual as a mate. How could I know if I've never even met a transwoman? And finally, I have a lot at stake - a career, a girlfriend, family and friends. I know that's not unique to my situation - every transwoman who made the transition also had to deal with those challenges.

However, I'm still trying to figure out whether satisfying an intense sexual urge is worth throwing away the wonderful things that I already have. Thus, I don't appreciate your assumption that my hesitation comes from a lack of courage. I hesitate because I don't fully understand a part of myself, and I hoped other posters could offer some insight.

Ok, so here's what I would recommend. Do some research and find the nearest big city or take a vacation to the West Coast. If you're really up for it go to Mexico or Brazil. Bring condoms, be safe and try it out.

-Your career will still be there unless you film it
- Family, well that depends on what they know. Same for your friends
- Do it now before you're married and it really becomes an issue
- Once you try it and like it then. Well it's pretty fucking hot
- After you try it you're officially a homo (just kidding)

In all seriousness just take some time and think about it. If you desire it enough you will seek it out. If not, then it was just a fantasy.

Did I mention it is crazy hot?

[Odelay]

Basically, get over your issues and sort out your sexuality or internal crisis... get on with your life....and THEN try to find a trans person.
Yup. I can't imagine better advice.

[dderek123]

This reminds me of Bohemian Rhapsody.


Lmao

I've re worded part of the song.

Translady Rhapsody

Have you been with a Tgirl?
Is this just fantasy?
A confused sex life,
No escape from reality.

Open your eyes,
Look up craigslist and see,
I'm just a poor chaser, I need no sympathy,
Because I'm easy cum, easy blow,
Little bit gay, little bit straight,
Anyway my sexuality goes doesn't really matter to me, to me.

Donna, you were born a man,
Put a wig on top your head,
Pulled out my weiner, now it's red.
Donna, the camshow has just begun,
And now I've bought some tokens to tip you all day.

Donna, ooh,
I want to see to your little guy,
If it’s not hard I won’t tip much at all,
But carry on, carry on as if my sexuality really matters.

....




I'll finish the rest some other time when I feel more inspired.

[RallyCola]

no aggression at all. clearly you are very sensitive.

i stand behind what i said which also was echoed by rabbit eyes...you have things you need to work through simply because you are frustrated with your own situation and are in conflict with your own desires. that is neither a unique or insurmountable situation to manage. get over yourself and get out of your own way dude.

[sukumvit boy]

"after you try it you're officially a homo" Good one!:banana:

[trish]

I have a girlfriend and I love her, and I actually very much enjoy sex with her - I'm ravenous when I'm physically with her. But I don't fantasize about her when she's not around. The image of her or any other woman naked, does nothing for me in the abstract.

We don’t live in the abstract. We live beneath the rainbow. That’s why we have to look up to see it. If you can’t be with the one you love, honey...love the one you’re with. Gotta love the one you’re with. ... Dah dit, dah dit, dah dit, dadada. Dah dit, dah dit, dah dit, dit.

Love the One You're With With Lyrics - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJOcupCMG1M)

[$$$Bill]

Overthinking will drive you nuts! (Pun intended)

[Anika]

Brad Pitt on the cover of GQ does nothing for me, while Jessica Alba on the cover of Vogue does something for me, but not that much. But a transsexual porn star like Honey Foxxx? Good lord, I'm overwhelmed with sexual attraction.


Are you also attracted to T* who habe undergone SRS and have a Vagina now?

[Rusty Eldora]

Thought this was going to be one of those "is it gay?" threads lol. Yeah I know what you mean. The hardest part is we get grouped into the gay category because there isn't a lot of tgirls so most hang out at gay bars which makes a lot of people think gay and trans are related, which in my opinion aren't at all.

Well Tia Phoenix and I tested this, we went into R place and Neighbors on Seattle's Cap Hill. In R Place we were the only straight people in there, nobody was checking us out, it was like we were invisible. We also felt like there was no one for us to check out. Neighbors was really hopping and there was some checking out, but we were the square pegs still.

I like Tgirls a lot for what are valid reasons to me, they are not a fantasy but they occupy my desires. I still also love GG's and I am really more comfortable with myself now than before I met my first tgirl.

A side note, the DOD report this week indicated around 15K TG's serving out of 2.6M that is about 0.5% So roughly 1 in 200 girls you meet is TG, how many have you noticed? If they are passable probably not many, now that I know more about TG's I can probably spot more and I am aware that they are out there so I watch. I still have not spotted one in my suburban area, I have noticed them in Seattle. Well, because they are women, they aren't noticed - that is good.

[nysprod]

A side note, the DOD report this week indicated around 15K TG's serving out of 2.6M that is about 0.5% So roughly 1 in 200 girls you meet is TG, how many have you noticed? If they are passable probably not many, now that I know more about TG's I can probably spot more and I am aware that they are out there so I watch. I still have not spotted one in my suburban area, I have noticed them in Seattle. Well, because they are women, they aren't noticed - that is good.

A genetic woman will almost never have a 4th finger longer than the 2nd...a small percentage of people have equal length 2nd and 4th fingers.

[SammiValentine]

A genetic woman will almost never have a 4th finger longer than the 2nd...a small percentage of people have equal length 2nd and 4th fingers.

i sounds like the latter. but only on one hand. how low percnetage can we go here?:D

[nysprod]

i sounds like the latter. but only on one hand. how low percnetage can we go here?:D

Not sure exactly but it's very low, which means that if you meet someone who presents as female with a 4th finger > 2nd, the probability is very high they were born with male genitalia.

[canihavu]

Hi guys,

I've enjoyed this forum for some time, but this is my first post. I apologize if this topic has already been covered in another thread.

I'm interested to know if anyone else is frustrated by their attraction to transsexuals. I am more attracted to trans women than I am to any other kind of person - male or female. Because of this, I feel like the only outlets available for my sexuality are porn and escorts. It's frustrating, and sometimes I wish I were just gay because homosexuality has received such mainstream acceptance. The problem is - I know that I'm not gay. I am not attracted to anything on a man other than his penis.

Brad Pitt on the cover of GQ does nothing for me, while Jessica Alba on the cover of Vogue does something for me, but not that much. But a transsexual porn star like Honey Foxxx? Good lord, I'm overwhelmed with sexual attraction.

What's more frustrating is that despite how allegedly open-minded everyone is today about sexuality, the rest of the world - even so-called "allies" - insists on forcing people into one of two boxes - straight or gay. Unfortunately, I don't really think I fit either category. I have a girlfriend and I love her, and I actually very much enjoy sex with her - I'm ravenous when I'm physically with her. But I don't fantasize about her when she's not around. The image of her or any other woman naked, does nothing for me in the abstract.

Anyway - I just wanted to see if anyone else here felt the same way. I'm not ashamed of my attraction, it's way more complicated than that. I just want to try and find someone to talk to who can empathize, or who will at least try to understand me.

Thanks,

jer


I understand your frustration. When I was younger, I never understood why I had this attraction to a woman with a penis. I remember seeing them when I used to hang out NYC and I would be drawn to them. Me liking their penis used to weird me out at first. In fact it took me two years before I would venture into playing with/sucking them. I used to feel extremely guilty about that and would often seek out sex from GGs right after I would be with a transwoman. As I have gotten older, it does not bother me nearly as much anymore. I know what I like and I am comfortable in my skin. It's been years since I have been with a transsexual, but I am open to it still.

[canihavu]

I think the OP has the same nature as most of the posters on here. Most, if not all, would never consider sex with another man, but enjoy it with tgirls. Many, i'm sure, would never bottom for one the girls. The 'am I gay' thing has been beaten to death on this forum and should be put to bed. As for your frustration, Jer, just try to get happy in your own skin; I know I have. Take a look at my avatar; Kay O' Hara...I never really wanted to BE Kay, but I would love to look like her!

I remember I was gonna give a guy a BJ once and I could not go through with it. There was no attraction at all. But when I going down on a TG, I am very excited.

[alyssaluxor]

I noticed that TS admirer/chasers mostly discriminate TS girls a lot. If you like TS girls whats the need to be ashamed of it? Fuck society live your life. Life is short just enjoy it. Guys whos not into TS girls mostly doesnt care and will fuck a TS girl if they found them attractive not worrying about people around them.

[Flaco]

I've had some sexual experiences with TS that were just downright mind-blowing. But deep down I honestly don't think I'm Gay. And this is not me being in denial, I've seriously done some deep thinking on many occasions and asked myself if I was Gay. The answer is always no. I love Women. I look at men as my brothers, so there can never be any sexual attraction there. However, I reached a point a few years ago when my lust could no longer be satisfied by Genetic females anymore. That is what thrust me into this world. My love for Genetic Females is still there, but I've placed it aside just so I can pay attention to my lust. However, when I see my peers with their Girlfriends, or Couples on TV, or pictures of Families (Will Smith's family always comes to my mind) I envy them so much and wish I could be like them. I feel I should be like them, but I just can't seem to overcome my addictions to this world. I know I have to someday. I'm young now, but I won't be young forever. I don't want to wake up 5-10 years from now going straight to my laptop and looking for Tranny porn to fap to. Or browsing online for Trannies in the area to fuck. This just seems like a Dead-End route I'm going. *Sighs*

For me this stuff (Porn) is like Drugs. You get some, and you just consistently want something stronger and stronger. However, I'm not trying to offend anyone, because many of these TS Ladies really are very Gorgeous and attractive women (Both Physically and Mentally). Everyone should do what makes them happy. If you find one of these women and you are really attracted to her (Not just because she has a big butt or big cock etc) then you should start a relationship with her. Why not? You only live once, right? You deserve the right to be happy with whomever you want. But on the other hand if you are like me and you know in your heart you are not Gay, you have to look within yourself and ask yourself why you are living a Gay lifestyle. What is your ultimate goal? I am a straight person who is living a Gay lifestyle. I'm a prisoner to my own lust. I hope someday I can figure things out.

[fred41]

Guys whos not into TS girls mostly doesnt care and will fuck a TS girl if they found them attractive not worrying about people around them.

How do you know they are not into TS girls...because they TOLD you that?

hmmm.

[amberskyi]

I've had some sexual experiences with TS that were just downright mind-blowing. But deep down I honestly don't think I'm Gay. And this is not me being in denial, I've seriously done some deep thinking on many occasions and asked myself if I was Gay. The answer is always no. I love Women. I look at men as my brothers, so there can never be any sexual attraction there. However, I reached a point a few years ago when my lust could no longer be satisfied by Genetic females anymore. That is what thrust me into this world. My love for Genetic Females is still there, but I've placed it aside just so I can pay attention to my lust. However, when I see my peers with their Girlfriends, or Couples on TV, or pictures of Families (Will Smith's family always comes to my mind) I envy them so much and wish I could be like them. I feel I should be like them, but I just can't seem to overcome my addictions to this world. I know I have to someday. I'm young now, but I won't be young forever. I don't want to wake up 5-10 years from now going straight to my laptop and looking for Tranny porn to fap to. Or browsing online for Trannies in the area to fuck. This just seems like a Dead-End route I'm going. *Sighs*

For me this stuff (Porn) is like Drugs. You get some, and you just consistently want something stronger and stronger. However, I'm not trying to offend anyone, because many of these TS Ladies really are very Gorgeous and attractive women (Both Physically and Mentally). Everyone should do what makes them happy. If you find one of these women and you are really attracted to her (Not just because she has a big butt or big cock etc) then you should start a relationship with her. Why not? You only live once, right? You deserve the right to be happy with whomever you want. But on the other hand if you are like me and you know in your heart you are not Gay, you have to look within yourself and ask yourself why you are living a Gay lifestyle. What is your ultimate goal? I am a straight person who is living a Gay lifestyle. I'm a prisoner to my own lust. I hope someday I can figure things out.

WOW "gay lifestyle"?? Way to undermine every girls gender on here.
how about you truly see and respect these girls as woman.woman that someone could settle down with, love and have a family.im a daughter, a sister and God willing maybe a mother one day. Nothing gay about that.
Marginalizing us is your choice and your hang up.
Im tired of reading and being offended by your internal conflict

[livepersona]

I've had some sexual experiences with TS that were just downright mind-blowing. But deep down I honestly don't think I'm Gay. And this is not me being in denial, I've seriously done some deep thinking on many occasions and asked myself if I was Gay. The answer is always no. I love Women. I look at men as my brothers, so there can never be any sexual attraction there. However, I reached a point a few years ago when my lust could no longer be satisfied by Genetic females anymore. That is what thrust me into this world. My love for Genetic Females is still there, but I've placed it aside just so I can pay attention to my lust. However, when I see my peers with their Girlfriends, or Couples on TV, or pictures of Families (Will Smith's family always comes to my mind) I envy them so much and wish I could be like them. I feel I should be like them, but I just can't seem to overcome my addictions to this world. I know I have to someday. I'm young now, but I won't be young forever. I don't want to wake up 5-10 years from now going straight to my laptop and looking for Tranny porn to fap to. Or browsing online for Trannies in the area to fuck. This just seems like a Dead-End route I'm going. *Sighs*

For me this stuff (Porn) is like Drugs. You get some, and you just consistently want something stronger and stronger. However, I'm not trying to offend anyone, because many of these TS Ladies really are very Gorgeous and attractive women (Both Physically and Mentally). Everyone should do what makes them happy. If you find one of these women and you are really attracted to her (Not just because she has a big butt or big cock etc) then you should start a relationship with her. Why not? You only live once, right? You deserve the right to be happy with whomever you want. But on the other hand if you are like me and you know in your heart you are not Gay, you have to look within yourself and ask yourself why you are living a Gay lifestyle. What is your ultimate goal? I am a straight person who is living a Gay lifestyle. I'm a prisoner to my own lust. I hope someday I can figure things out.

What exactly is a gay lifestyle?

[Rabbiteyes]

What exactly is a gay lifestyle?

He is just a stupid horny kid and thinks that what being "gay" is about (probably he saw some old propaganda about "the gays" and their wild "sinful" orgy filled lifestyle).

The only thing he needs to do is grow up a bit.

Straight, gay, whatever....don't worry OP....you aren't "gay lifestyling"...you are just like the other countless young bro's who can only think about chasing pussy...or chasing cock...or whatever else. You will (maybe) grow out of it.

[Ms.Stepford]

Okay, but why the picture of the Smith family? Yes, they are one of the most attractive families in the world today, but what did they have to do with that post?

I'm going to lose sleep on that if I don't get an answer.

[robertlouis]

He is just a stupid horny kid and thinks that what being "gay" is about (probably he saw some old propaganda about "the gays" and their wild "sinful" orgy filled lifestyle).

The only thing he needs to do is grow up a bit.

Straight, gay, whatever....don't worry OP....you aren't "gay lifestyling"...you are just like the other countless young bro's who can only think about chasing pussy...or chasing cock...or whatever else. You will (maybe) grow out of it.



Gay isn't a lifestyle. It's how you're born. Calling it a lifestyle implies choice, which in this case is a pernicious way of implying it's like a pair of shoes, the nastiest and laziest kind of anti-gay propaganda.

[Rabbiteyes]

Gay isn't a lifestyle. It's how you're born. Calling it a lifestyle implies choice, which in this case is a pernicious way of implying it's like a pair of shoes, the nastiest and laziest kind of anti-gay propaganda.

I never really understood why it matters if it is a choice or not.

Even if it were 100 percent a choice, are people saying we shouldn't be free to choose how we have sex? Or choose who we love?

The same is true for trans things. Even if it were a choice, I'm pretty sure I should be able to choose what to do with my own body.

[fred41]

I never really understood why it matters if it is a choice or not.

Even if it were 100 percent a choice, are people saying we shouldn't be free to choose how we have sex? Or choose who we love?

The same is true for trans things. Even if it were a choice, I'm pretty sure I should be able to choose what to do with my own body.

good point!...and a very important one.

[robertlouis]

I never really understood why it matters if it is a choice or not.

Even if it were 100 percent a choice, are people saying we shouldn't be free to choose how we have sex? Or choose who we love?

The same is true for trans things. Even if it were a choice, I'm pretty sure I should be able to choose what to do with my own body.

I wasn't suggesting that it matters; I was simply pointing out the negative connotations that people who are hostile to all aspects of LGBT imply when they call it a "lifestyle."

[fred41]

I wasn't suggesting that it matters; I was simply pointing out the negative connotations that people who are hostile to all aspects of LGBT imply when they call it a "lifestyle."

I think the point is...they can imply whatever they want...consenting adults will do what they WANT in the bedroom, not necessarily because they HAVE to...but because they like to...it's still no one's business.
Using the defense of "I have to do this because I was born that way" is giving an answer that doesn't deserve to be given to people who should simply go fuck them selves.

[Rabbiteyes]

I think the point is...they can imply whatever they want...consenting adults will do what they WANT in the bedroom, not necessarily because they HAVE to...but because they like to...it's still no one's business.
Using the defense of "I have to do this because I was born that way" is giving an answer that doesn't deserve to be given to people who should simply go fuck them selves.

It also reframes the entire issue as a "condition"....something these "poor people can't help".

"They didn't ask to be gay, they were born that way!"

That is why some trans people feel as though they are broken or are a birth defect (the same with gay people).

Also, the issue is a bit more complex than "this is how you are born" (especially given the plastic nature of the brain). I actually was straight before and had no interest in men (though never was with a woman)....eventually I slowly moved towards being attracted to men more.

Basically, the entire thing just doesn't make sense ...but it has always bugged me how "i was born this way "dominates the public discussion.

Choice or not, who are these random people who feel like they can tell others how to live their lives? As long as no one is being harmed against their will, there should be no issues.

Like you said, they can go fuck themselves.

[Vivian Dawn]

Gay isn't a lifestyle. It's how you're born. Calling it a lifestyle implies choice, which in this case is a pernicious way of implying it's like a pair of shoes, the nastiest and laziest kind of anti-gay propaganda.

I am living The Gay Lifestyle

*dispenses relationship advice to female friend over mimosas, flirts with waiter, is really boring*

(to clarify: I am not a television gay man)

[Flaco]

WOW "gay lifestyle"?? Way to undermine every girls gender on here.
how about you truly see and respect these girls as woman.woman that someone could settle down with, love and have a family.im a daughter, a sister and God willing maybe a mother one day. Nothing gay about that.
Marginalizing us is your choice and your hang up.
Im tired of reading and being offended by your internal conflict

Ahh, if it isn't Amberskyi back once again to play the victim and bitch about shit that doesn't concern her. Nothing in my post was offensive but of course you're back bitching as usual. I was not born liking Transwomen, I discovered them through porn. That is why I have problems seeing them as someone I can love, because my attraction for them came through lust. No one forced you to read my post, if you don't like my posts put me on your ignore list. Simple as that.

[fred41]

(especially given the plastic nature of the brain)

I actually believe some people can expand their sexual orientation to some degree (not change it)...there is also some thinking that some orientation MAY, in fact, be brought on environmentally and not necessarily by birth.
...but as you say...none of that should matter anyway.

[Flaco]

He is just a stupid horny kid and thinks that what being "gay" is about (probably he saw some old propaganda about "the gays" and their wild "sinful" orgy filled lifestyle).

The only thing he needs to do is grow up a bit.

Straight, gay, whatever....don't worry OP....you aren't "gay lifestyling"...you are just like the other countless young bro's who can only think about chasing pussy...or chasing cock...or whatever else. You will (maybe) grow out of it.

I don't see why I need to get attacked for my post. How am I not living a Gay lifestyle? If a man is sucking dick, and getting fucked in the ass is that not Homosexual sex? I really wonder about some people here who start playing the victim as soon as you say "Hmm, is it really right for me to masturbate and tranny chase almost every day?" Nothing, I said was out of line, but I can see that if I'm not saying something along the lines of "I suck Tranny Cock and I'm happy! Yay!" people will start complaining and saying I offended them. Its become obvious that If I say anything you ppl don't like you'll somehow spin it around and say it was offensive, no matter how nicely I try to word it. I really would like someone to point out where exactly I said anything offensive in my initial post. Quote me, I'm waiting.

[Ms.Stepford]

Whatevs, but what's with the pic of the Smiths?

[Rabbiteyes]

How am I not living a Gay lifestyle? If a man is sucking dick, and getting fucked in the ass is that not Homosexual sex?

Lifestyle isn't really the same thing as just having sex. Especially since you aren't talking about just having sex, but also a range of other issues...such as seeming sex addiction and rather dismissive attitude towards those you are lusting after.


I really wonder about some people here who start playing the victim as soon as you say "Hmm, is it really right for me to masturbate and tranny chase almost every day?

I wasn't playing a victim...I was calling you a stupid horny kid.

Do you know what the word victim means?

I'm having serious doubts about your mastery of the english language :|

[Flaco]

Lifestyle isn't really the same thing as just having sex. Especially since you aren't talking about just having sex, but also a range of other issues...such as seeming sex addiction and rather dismissive attitude towards those you are lusting after.



I wasn't playing a victim...I was calling you a stupid horny kid.

Do you know what the word victim means?

I'm having serious doubts about your mastery of the english language :|


Go ahead and quote me in where I sad you, Rabbiteyes, was playing a victim. I said I wonder about "Some People" on here, did I mention you in particular? And then you want to talk about mastering the English language lol what a joke. "A rather dismissive attitude towards those you are lusting after". O rly?


However, I'm not trying to offend anyone, because many of these TS Ladies really are very Gorgeous and attractive women (Both Physically and Mentally). Everyone should do what makes them happy. If you find one of these women and you are really attracted to her (Not just because she has a big butt or big cock etc) then you should start a relationship with her. Why not? You only live once, right? You deserve the right to be happy with whomever you want.

[alyssaluxor]

How do you know they are not into TS girls...because they TOLD you that?

hmmm.

I have a life too also go to malls, restaurant, grocery, cinema, parks... clubs

And sometimes ill meet guys there or a guy will approach me. Then if i say im a ladyboy most of them would get shocked but will stay with me. They wouldnt care and would even hold my hand or even kiss me then go back in my room for lots of fun *wink*

[alyssaluxor]

By the way I have many straight guys friends or guys whos not into TS girls like my friends in office before or friends in college or friends in high school. Whenever we are going out they dont have any issues and shy to other people that they are with a TS girl. On the other hand i notice TS admirer/chaser are so paranoid being seen with a TS girl

[fred41]

I have a life too also go to malls, restaurant, grocery, cinema, parks... clubs

And sometimes ill meet guys there or a guy will approach me. Then if i say im a ladyboy most of them would get shocked but will stay with me. They wouldnt care and would even hold my hand or even kiss me then go back in my room for lots of fun *wink*
There are tons of guys that lie...and there are tons of guys who are secretly intrigued but never took that step, but now they have the opportunity.
Since I'm using the word "tons" here....the reality is - there are tons of guys that deem themselves "straight" who would have nothing to do with transsexuals at all...and some only in the bedroom (same as SOME chasers).

[$$$Bill]

By the way I have many straight guys friends or guys whos not into TS girls like my friends in office before or friends in college or friends in high school. Whenever we are going out they dont have any issues and shy to other people that they are with a TS girl. On the other hand i notice TS admirer/chaser are so paranoid being seen with a TS girl
No shame in my game :)

[alyssaluxor]

There are tons of guys that lie...and there are tons of guys who are secretly intrigued but never took that step, but now they have the opportunity.
Since I'm using the word "tons" here....the reality is - there are tons of guys that deem themselves "straight" who would have nothing to do with transsexuals at all...and some only in the bedroom (same as SOME chasers).

Have you been in Asia and met an Asian TS girl. In Asia most guys would not know that the girl on public is a TS girl. Even sometimes they have sex with them they still dont know they are TS girl lol

Stop judging me because of your life, my life and experiences are totally different from you. Most guys would not even believe im a TS girl when they saw me in person

[fred41]

By the way I have many straight guys friends or guys whos not into TS girls like my friends in office before or friends in college or friends in high school. Whenever we are going out they dont have any issues and shy to other people that they are with a TS girl. On the other hand i notice TS admirer/chaser are so paranoid being seen with a TS girl

There is another thing here that may be valid also...you may be extremely passable, but let's be honest here - who do you think is more likely to openly date a less passable transsexual - an admirer or a "straight" person?...be honest.

[fred41]

Even sometimes they have sex with them they still dont know they are TS girl lol

..then they are idiots.


Stop judging me because of your life, my life and experiences are totally different from you. Most guys would not even believe im a TS girl when they saw me in person

then what is the relevance?..you should have said guys here in Asia...apparently there's a cultural difference....but since you are a woman, you still don't really know what is going on in a man's head...and I'm not judging you.

[alyssaluxor]

..then they are idiots.



then what is the relevance?..you should have said guys here in Asia...apparently there's a cultural difference....but since you are a woman, you still don't really know what is going on in a man's head...and I'm not judging you.


i dont know youre the one who attacked my post and you also dont know whats happening in my real life and judging me by your world lol

[fred41]

i dont know youre the one who attacked my post and you also dont know whats happening in my real life and judging me by your world lol

I didn't "attack" your post....I merely questioned it. There's a difference.

...and apparently you're judging everyone else by your world.

[AshlynCreamher]

http://i.imgur.com/S1fSk.gif

[Rabbiteyes]

By the way I have many straight guys friends or guys whos not into TS girls like my friends in office before or friends in college or friends in high school. Whenever we are going out they dont have any issues and shy to other people that they are with a TS girl. On the other hand i notice TS admirer/chaser are so paranoid being seen with a TS girl

I noticed the same thing.

I went to a trans club here in LA before...and all of the guys were hiding in the corners :| It was so awkward.

[$$$Bill]

http://i.imgur.com/S1fSk.gif
Ahaha...

[fred41]

There a some guys that lurk in the corners or wear hoodies...and some that don't. There are some boyfriends that girls have that they swear are "straight"...and later turn out to be "not so"...lol

[robertlouis]

I noticed the same thing.

I went to a trans club here in LA before...and all of the guys were hiding in the corners :| It was so awkward.

I have quite a few transsexual girls who are friends ant an entirely platonic level - it all started when I helped a close friend through the agonies of her transition some years ago. There's a huge difference between the relative few like me who first encountered the trauma of gender transition in real life, and the majority of guys here who arrived via porn and still see the girls largely through the prism of fantasy.

I don't criticise them for that, but I do get really angry with some of the thoughtless, immature and crassly insensitive things that posters say all too often.

[amberskyi]

[QUOTE=Flaco;1469333]Ahh, if it isn't Amberskyi back once again to play the victim and bitch about shit that doesn't concern her. Nothing in my post was offensive but of course you're back bitching as usual. I was not born liking Transwomen, I discovered them through porn. That is why I have problems seeing them as someone I can love, because my attraction for them came through lust. No one forced you to read my post, if you don't like my posts put me on your ignore list. Simple [QUOTE]

Anytime anyone undermines the girls and mines gender (which you do by calling ts woman "a gay lifestyle") im going to say something.
It's always going to offensive when you speak to a group of people about how you find sex with them shameful, deviant and etc. You've complained about this several times so you would think you would either stop or grow some balls and accept yourself.
And p.s. jack ass, this is a PUBLIC FORUM in which im a member...it all concerns me lol

[STARTUP999]

Wow after reading it, I felt like I wrote it myself lol! Totally get you dude. Wish there were more solutions to the problem

I could have written this too! Funny the example of Jessica Alba and Honey Foxx really struck me since I find them both very attractive but hands down on Honey

But I don't see it as a "problem" your attracted to who your attracted to. Its only a problem if you let others choose what sort of person you should be with, or feel guilty that your not measuring up to others expectations.

[Flaco]

[QUOTE=Flaco;1469333]Ahh, if it isn't Amberskyi back once again to play the victim and bitch about shit that doesn't concern her. Nothing in my post was offensive but of course you're back bitching as usual. I was not born liking Transwomen, I discovered them through porn. That is why I have problems seeing them as someone I can love, because my attraction for them came through lust. No one forced you to read my post, if you don't like my posts put me on your ignore list. Simple [QUOTE]

Anytime anyone undermines the girls and mines gender (which you do by calling ts woman "a gay lifestyle") im going to say something.
It's always going to offensive when you speak to a group of people about how you find sex with them shameful, deviant and etc. You've complained about this several times so you would think you would either stop or grow some balls and accept yourself.
And p.s. jack ass, this is a PUBLIC FORUM in which im a member...it all concerns me lol

Look at you trying your hardest to spin my words, Fail. Quote me where I said being with TS Girls is a Gay Lifestyle. Fact is, If I had a TS girlfriend I would never say being with her is Gay. But when you pay money to have Homosexual sex (I'm not trying to say the Girls are men, but do they not have Male parts?) and consistently do it like I have, that to me is living a Gay lifestyle. Where in that post did I say anything about sex with TS being shameful or deviant? You're trying way too hard to look for anything to be offended about. And as a matter of fact I'm offended by YOUR comments. You really said "Im tired of reading and being offended by your internal conflict . So my porn addiction doesn't matter? My internal conflicts don't matter? The fact that I'm not truly happy with the route I'm going doesn't matter? Who are YOU to sit on your judgment chair and say I can't speak about my issues because you'll take them offensively? Why do I have to be silenced because I said something you didn't like? Nothing, I said in my initial post was offensive (Or maybe you can quote exactly where you took offense). And so what if it's a Public Forum? Still, doesn't mean you can't put me on your ignore list.

[Vivian Dawn]

Dude, I gotta say, I hang out with a lot of faggots, and paying for sex with trannies is not really the kind of lifestyle most faggots lead! Maybe you're a little too far in the closet, if you can't even conceive of the wonderful breadth of faggotry waiting out there for you, if you could only just embrace it! Go! Open the door, and come forth--abandon the darkness of the closet and go buy an overpriced fair trade coffee to drink while you gossip about who is sleeping with who.

[buttslinger]

Any hominoid with an abundance of estrogen running through it's veins is endowed with the power of taking your attraction and turning it into a PLUS to their personal lifestyle. Ever since Barbie gave Ken that little red apple, Ken buys Barbie a Red Corvette and a Dream House.
Don't worry about your attraction to ANYBODY female, it's all been worked out long before you were born. Women have you sized up two seconds after meeting them. It's like a career for them.

Out of ALL THE PEOPLE walking around, can't you find just one that you can talk to and understand and like? Anybody over 21 is socially pressured to have sex!! Set that bullshit aside. If you feel alone when you're alone you're not alone.

[alyssaluxor]

I noticed the same thing.

I went to a trans club here in LA before...and all of the guys were hiding in the corners :| It was so awkward.


lol yeahhh thats what i noticed also if im meeting a TS admirer/chasers they often very shy and dont want to be seen near me. But if a guy is not into TS girls like my friends in my office before or friends in college and high school they dont have any hang ups being seen with TS girls

Most TS admirer/chasers have so much paranoia in their life living in the closet

[Rabbiteyes]

Ever since Barbie gave Ken that little red apple, Ken buys Barbie a Red Corvette and a Dream House.

Everyone knows Barbie is the one with the $$$.

A super model, doctor, astronaut, even the US president.

Ken is just a boy toy she keeps around.

[mrLemon]

ok tried to add quotes, but, cocked up there!!
original thread was 'frustrated with ts attraction'
originally no!! but depending on your situation this shouldn't be a problem!!
your dearly beloved is the love of your life.......apparently!!
the same as any type of porn! what you cant have, you want!!
its called fantasy!!
to have, or to have had, a situation with a trans would be very different!
we, myself included, would be quite happy with the scenario but how would everyone else feel?? family?? friends??
myself?? FUCK 'EM!! but that's me!!
if its taking your life over then you gotta take stock!!!!

[Ciffer]

lol yeahhh thats what i noticed also if im meeting a TS admirer/chasers they often very shy and dont want to be seen near me. But if a guy is not into TS girls like my friends in my office before or friends in college and high school they dont have any hang ups being seen with TS girls

Most TS admirer/chasers have so much paranoia in their life living in the closet
Alyssa I have absolutely no problem spending time in public with a trans gender women. As a matter of fact most of the time I do. Looks or no looks I could really care less. You are just girls after all!

[$$$Bill]

Do what, & Be with, whatever and whomever makes you happy!
No sense in living in fear of others opinions, bcuz they'll have an opinion no matter what.

It's your life... And you only have one.

Don't overthink everything. Go and live YOUR life.

[Deja Vu]

Dude, I gotta say, I hang out with a lot of faggots, and paying for sex with trannies is not really the kind of lifestyle most faggots lead! Maybe you're a little too far in the closet, if you can't even conceive of the wonderful breadth of faggotry waiting out there for you, if you could only just embrace it! Go! Open the door, and come forth--abandon the darkness of the closet and go buy an overpriced fair trade coffee to drink while you gossip about who is sleeping with who.

Bruh, shut up

Most of these responses I read were so bad. Like I dig the sentiments but the way y'all say it...you sound more pent up, frustrated, resentful or ignorant than this guy. Its not helpful.

Tell you what bud, find out what you want – what you really want and go for it. Sounds like you love your girl, right? Well, does she know how you feel?? Time to be honest.

It helped me. I don't have many hang ups with my sexuality. I like what I like. Its called bisexual/trans attraction, so own it, be honest with your friends, don't house it and live how you please.

All this talk about gay or straight is inconsequential because it's about being cool with your life and enjoying ya self. I'm sure you'll get it together.

[nysprod]

lol yeahhh thats what i noticed also if im meeting a TS admirer/chasers they often very shy and dont want to be seen near me. But if a guy is not into TS girls like my friends in my office before or friends in college and high school they dont have any hang ups being seen with TS girls

Most TS admirer/chasers have so much paranoia in their life living in the closet

It's not quite that simplistic...chasers who see ts escorts may not want to be seen in public with them for the same reason they wouldn't want to be seen in public with a genetic escort, i.e. they're married men with families...and being seen in public with any attractive young girl when you're an older man (as many chasers/johns are), it's obvious to anyone who looks at them that they're together because he has the money to pay.

You're friends from school are an entirely different matter...for one thing, they're your age so it doesn't look out of place to be seen in public together...and they know you personally and like you...besides that, you're very passable, so the issue of you being ts may not be considered a problem.

Suggest to some of your school friends they introduce you to their family as a TS escort...then we'll see about friends and chasers and closets.