Catching std off TS has put me off TS..should it?

[Firefighter101]

Well i have had a couple of amazing sexual experiences with Two very sexy TS girls.

I took pre-cautions and used condoms for penetration but not for oral and know i am just getting over a dose of gonorroeah which is the first STD i have caught and it is not to pleasant! I am also fearful if i caught anything else. I have had one of there cum in my mouth.

Does everyone else out there use protection for oral and make sure genitals are kept apart?

I hope i might have more fun but this has put me off so any help and advice would be appreciated.

Thanks

[Jennifer_English]

Firefighter....

Might I suggest that catching something from a TS is no more likely than catching it from anyone else... ?

p.s. hope the dose gets better soon ;o)

Jennifer
xxxxx

[ARMANIXXX]

Um.....I guess I'll be the first to ask......which one?

Which one's are to be avoided Firefighter?


Seriously.

message me if you don't wanna say outloud, thanks.

[popperluv]

:shock:

[Firefighter101]

Jennifer English,

Hi that what i was thinking and alway thought but talking to the health visitor apparently not. There is a large outbreak of syphillis in the gay community where there is very low rates in the hetrosexual community and the How much this affects the TS community is open to debate. Also the risk of HIV is higher.

Gonorreah,Syphillis,Chlamdia are all stds that someone can have without any symptoms.

I was deep throated with no condom and thats how i think i have aquired it or maybe our genitals touched briefly or maybe it was when we were kissing. Any how. having puss coming out of your red swollen cock is not nice!

I am on the mend now as i have been on antibiotics. Waiting for test results back for syphillis and feeling nervous.I am also wondering about Hiv but maybe that me being paranoid! Is there much infection in the TS community?

The attitude of the girl did concern me as i did the right thing and informed her and she has taken the attitude that she is fine!!!!

The might be few more poor guys out there.

[DamionXXX]

Я Люблю Вас Ulyana, я Люблю только Вас ... теперь и для остальной части моей жизни.

[Trogdor]

:arrow: Also, I think I read that a condem will not protect you from all illnesses.

IF I am right, picture a sperm cell the size of a football field....and HIV virus the size of a football. Their are teeny, tiny holes in the materials and sperm cells easily get blocked, but the smaller HIV might not.

Remember, condems were made to protect you from "Pregnent".

Best choices here: Go get both of yourselves checked before you do the matress rodeo, OR if in doubt, don't do her/him. :idea:


*plays cheesy music*
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v176/Primacron/moreyouknow.gif

[AllanahStarrNYC]

"I stuck my hand down the garbage disposal and it cut my finger off, should I ever use the garbage dispoal again?"....

I'm sorry but I don't get it.

If you sucked the cock without the condom and the person came in your mouth u made that choice. U should be aware that anyone can have an STD- and gonnoreah takes about 2-3 days to develop from what I have read. Have u had sex with anyone else?

Don't make bad decisions then blame it on a whole community. If you are sexualy active with multiple partners and u dont use condoms u are def. more at risk for and STD- with anyone. Don't want an STD. Abstain.

I'm very much offended by the term 'high risk group' because it leads to the ignorance that if u are not having sex with someone in a 'high risk' group then u will be ok. That's crap. Everyone is at risk.

Asymptomatic gonorrhea.

Webster SB.

Asymptomatic gonorrhea is significantly common in both males and females. A patient with one sexually transmitted disease (STD) is more likely to have an asymptomatic gonorrheal infection. A physician seeing a patient with an STD should obtain a culture for Neisseria gonorrhoeae to check for a possible asymptomatic infection. Routine culturing of this sexually active population will help to control the increasing incidence of gonorrhea. Appropriate treatment should be initiated by the physician who makes the diagnosis of gonorrhea.

And a wealth of knowledge of STDS and Oral sex here:

http://www.brown.edu/Student_Services/Health_Services/Health_Education/sexual_health/sti/oralsex.htm

[DamionXXX]

Я Люблю Вас Ulyana, я Люблю только Вас ... теперь и для остальной части моей жизни.

[Firefighter101]

Allanah,

I do not intend in leading people in ignorance and you are right that you are at risk with anyone you have sex with. All i wanted to establish is probablility of risk of HIV infection.

Damionxxx

The girl i met i only found out was a escort today. I met her and we had sex but it was for no money and through a dating site.

Having a Hiv test every 30 days is not protection as it can take up to 3 months for Hiv to show up on a test.

I do not intend to upset or offend anyone just to gain information for myself and to maybe educate others through debate. I thought people on this forum are openminded and tolerant.

[DamionXXX]

Я Люблю Вас Ulyana, я Люблю только Вас ... теперь и для остальной части моей жизни.

[castabyss]

really safe sex at all times is pretty important, if you just hate condoms then join a website and jack it at home, the worst that can happen there is a wrist injury...


I hear that. I'd also avoid doing any drinking or smoking (illicit substances) if you plan to hook up with anyone. One drunken evening some girl I met at a bar slipped me in her bareback and I spent the next 6 months wringing my hands with anxiety (which can also cause a wrist injury). I turned out to be okay, but living in the shadow of STD's is no way to live at all. Also, remember that the presence of another STD (such as Gonorrhea) can make the transmission of HIV easier.

I hate condoms for oral, but sadly, they are necessary. You can't get all caught up in "the moment". That moment can last a lifetime.

CA

[brickcitybrother]

Firefighter101:

I give you credit for coming out about what happened. That takes a pair of balls that clank.

With that being said ... you talk to the person who did this to you in a very serious and stern manner. Explain to them that they took your health and quite possibly your life for granted (for what ... a moment of pleasure). Explain that better decision-making is a definite must. If all you come out of this with is a lil burnin, pussin, swollen penis .... CONSIDER YOURSELF LUCKY!. These days folks are coming away with lifetime medical conditions. You need to tell this person that they have no idea how dangerous it is out there and thay they can NEVER do this to you EVER again. Then... once you're done looking in the mirror .... think about how bad this could have gone down and realize ... next time it may become a reality.

I think the issue is not just crucial but often too hidden in the background of what everyone says and does. I rememeber blowing a woman's mind away when I pulled out test results (60 days old maybe ... lol in a nod to the porn star 30 day cycle) to show that I was truly clear but still insisted on protection (for everything). I know that bringing up STDs with a potential partner is a real moment killer.

I just feel failure to deal with it at all is a real killer.







P.S. Yes I know I stepped off the face of the earth - for those of you who noticed. I just happened to peek and this was too real to ignore.

[DamionXXX]

Я Люблю Вас Ulyana, я Люблю только Вас ... теперь и для остальной части моей жизни.

[PapiQueRico]

I dont know but escorts have 4 to 5 times more sexual encounters with strangers than most people. ...

:what I would tend to think the difference would be much, much higher than this?

[hondarobot]

The original poster touched on an interesting subject. Sex is sex (oral, anal, vaginal, whatever). Any anatomical part that produces fluids, basically, and makes internal contact with another person, is a risk. Most people don't actually realize this.

I honestly don't know much about the genetic underpinnings of the whole thing. But I know the basics.

People who are tested regularily and primarily have sex within a fairly controlled group or with a regular partner or partners (such as porn performers) are very much LESS at risk then the general public. Sex with professional escorts who follow due dilligence is also low risk, but the escort will (should) insist on protection with a client. If they don't, that should be a red flag.

Letting a TS escort, who you haven't seen papers from and don't fully trust, cum in your mouth, is a pretty bad move. Exchanging fluids with anyone you don't have confirmation of regular testing with (and trust the legitimacy of such documentaion) is bad.

Oh, and just as a warning. There are some STD tests where the nurse will insert a cotton swab into your dick. It sucks, so just get mentally ready for that. Freaked me out the first time, but it's not that bad.

OK. . . it is pretty bad, but it aint gonna kill ya.

[scorpion]

The cock say to the condom: Cover mee im going in.

[Firefighter101]

All good advice and something which i think needed to be said and debated.

I am worried and wondering about the chances of me having HIV.

I did chat to the girl and she decided to conceal from me that she was a escort.

The moral of the story it is better to safer than sorry. I must admit that i thought the chances of catching hiv through oral as very low although now the worry just ain't worth it.

The whole incident has changed my attitude towards my sexual behaviour. My experience is almost all with hetrosexual woman whuich i have been with quite a few and has left me thinking about my past behaviour with everyone. My future is to be a whole lot more careful and to change my behaviour.

I just hope its just not to late for me. And other can take heed from my experience.

[RubyTS]

"I stuck my hand down the garbage disposal and it cut my finger off, should I ever use the garbage dispoal again?"....

I'm sorry but I don't get it.

If you sucked the cock without the condom and the person came in your mouth u made that choice. U should be aware that anyone can have an STD- and gonnoreah takes about 2-3 days to develop from what I have read. Have u had sex with anyone else?

Don't make bad decisions then blame it on a whole community. If you are sexualy active with multiple partners and u dont use condoms u are def. more at risk for and STD- with anyone. Don't want an STD. Abstain.

I'm very much offended by the term 'high risk group' because it leads to the ignorance that if u are not having sex with someone in a 'high risk' group then u will be ok. That's crap. Everyone is at risk.

Asymptomatic gonorrhea.

Webster SB.

Asymptomatic gonorrhea is significantly common in both males and females. A patient with one sexually transmitted disease (STD) is more likely to have an asymptomatic gonorrheal infection. A physician seeing a patient with an STD should obtain a culture for Neisseria gonorrhoeae to check for a possible asymptomatic infection. Routine culturing of this sexually active population will help to control the increasing incidence of gonorrhea. Appropriate treatment should be initiated by the physician who makes the diagnosis of gonorrhea.

And a wealth of knowledge of STDS and Oral sex here:

http://www.brown.edu/Student_Services/Health_Services/Health_Education/sexual_health/sti/oralsex.htm

Thank you. No one could've said it better. U should always protect yourself regardless to WHO you are engaging in sexual activities with! Don't generalize cuz it definitely leads to more unnecessary stereotyping. You're at risk if you have unprotected sex with ANYONE, and condoms were originally made for the prevention on pregnancy yes... but the only thing 100% safe is abstinence.

[jdh1974]

make sure genitals are kept apart?

Hi, Im going to chime in here, i was always told that 'frottage'(rubbing cocks together) is one of the safest acts , since there is no penetration involved. IN that it is very hard for fluid to be exchabged from one penis to another unless there is alot of direct contact head to head. Especially in terms of HIV, I was just curious because this os one of my favorite things to do, since Ive heard and read its primarily the safest of all to do and you can do without a condom.
Correct me if Ive heard wrong of course, I was just wondering.

[RubyTS]

make sure genitals are kept apart?

Hi, Im going to chime in here, i was always told that 'frottage'(rubbing cocks together) is one of the safest acts , since there is no penetration involved. IN that it is very hard for fluid to be exchabged from one penis to another unless there is alot of direct contact head to head. Especially in terms of HIV, I was just curious because this os one of my favorite things to do, since Ive heard and read its primarily the safest of all to do and you can do without a condom.
Correct me if Ive heard wrong of course, I was just wondering.

most std's are transferred thru bodily fluids. Those being semen, blood and breast milk. Its not likely to catch MOST std's thru body rubbing. The only one exception THAT I KNOW OF is crabs, which u could just as easily get from sitting on a public toilet after someone carrying. Then again u take chances risking your life EVERDAY u step out of yoour house...

Now with semen in the mouth... BAD IDEA if u have gingivitis. I hear the best thing to do in which case it to spit or swallow but quickly. The acids in your stomach will kill and infections if there r any, but a warm humid place like the mouth is definately breeding grounds for some nastiezzzz.

[Trogdor]

Soma bacterias can survive in the stomach.

Australian doctors published a paper on it, and for some reason or another, that paper never reached the states. o.o

[YasminLee]

IT'S NOT A MATTER OF IS SHE OR HE AN ESCORT, A TS OR ANY OTHER KIND OF GROUP. WHAT'S IMPORTANT IS PROTECTION AND EDUCATION YOURSELF ABOUT STDS. ANY KIND OF CONTACT BETWEEN TWO PEOPLE IS A RISK FOR STDS..ORAL SEX WITHOUT A CONDOM IS VERY MUCH A DEBATE FOR MOST PEOPLE...

[AllanahStarrNYC]

u can catch HPV- aka gential warts from genital to gentinal contact
though more of a bother than anything else- there are also people who are a sympotamic and u cannot see the wart(s)-

they can grow anywhere on the genitals, around area, or around or inside the anus

it is much more dangerous for ggs, as HPV can cause cervical cancer

[RubyTS]

u can catch HPV- aka gential warts from genital to gentinal contact
though more of a bother than anything else- there are also people who are a sympotamic and u cannot see the wart(s)-

they can grow anywhere on the genitals, around area, or around or inside the anus

it is much more dangerous for ggs, as HPV can cause cervical cancer

ME and a friend were just debating about this post (as we both did peer education training/safer sex workshops as teens) and he was telling me about hpv. I was just about to post about this, thank u Allanah.

[drock]

there are escorts currently operating that are HIV positive, I think touching any escort in a sexual manner without protection is a very poor choice...

I am not stirring shit, I am not naming names, but being in the adult industry you learn quick that some people are sick because they had to get tested to work in a film and came up positive.

Do transexuals have more STDs than the rest of the world? I dont know but escorts have 4 to 5 times more sexual encounters with strangers than most people. SOme are completely anal retentive about being completeley protected at all times, some would let you cum in thier ass and not give a shit...

Now think for a moment why would an escort be ok with unsafe sex? I mean why would an escort simply not care... usually when they dont care about safe sex there is a reason ( they are sick and just really dont care, because they dont expect to get any sicker )...

be carefull guys, seriously... also most girls that you seee in current, no condom videos that do porn for a living are getting tested every 30 days and are very safe... avoid girls that have rooms that smell like they have been smoking coke off of aluminum foil, thats a dead give away that they have poor choice making skills...

excellent advise.

[Shining Star]

Just for the record, it is HIV that is difficult to catch via oral (for the offer, the receiver is another matter), however all other forms of STD are easily transmitted/infect mucus membrane tissue such as oral, anal, and vaginal cavity.

Getting VD from oral is common because usually the person infected does not know he/she has it, and or does not care. Unless the lesions are towards the front of the mouth, the person may not know they are infected and or ignore the signs of illness. Considering how many providers do not seek regular health care, the infection can go on untreated.

Back when back rooms/glory holes were big on the gay scene, many men would come down with a "weepy cock" from unprotected sex. The AIDS crisis changed things for awhile, but the Internet,chat has brought the backroom right to one's computer.

Moral of the story, unless you know where something has been, keep your lad wrapped.

While it is not a pleasant thought, you are wise to have an HIV test, and a follow ups over the next several months. If you are negative, consider this a wake up call. Not meaning to cast dispersions, but there are lots of girls out there infected and still working/meeting guys. As I said, some do not know, others know and don't care who they take down with them. The problem is one that has plagued working girls for ages, with no other skills, they need to make money to live/pay for treatment, and disclosing would mean an instant end to their working.

[TonyStarx]

A very infromative post !
Thanks firefighter101 for sharing !
And thanks to everyone who dropped in their :2cent

I've messed around with escorts....and been tested and came back negative.

The only VD I got was from a chick back in my college days...she gave great head and syphillis a few days later :oops:
I'd seen her all the time on campus and stuff..."SEEMED" real laid back and kind of conservative. Come to find out some of my boys had tagged teamed her in one of the student club offices!
The one time I catch something I'm not banging an escort !

[rick_932]

A very infromative post !
Thanks firefighter101 for sharing !
And thanks to everyone who dropped in their :2cent

I've messed around with escorts....and been tested and came back negative.

The only VD I got was from a chick back in my college days...she gave great head and syphillis a few days later :oops:
I'd seen her all the time on campus and stuff..."SEEMED" real laid back and kind of conservative. Come to find out some of my boys had tagged teamed her in one of the student club offices!
The one time I catch something I'm not banging an escort !

damn, and ya boys didnt even tell you about her? did they know you was gonna hit that? if so thats fucked up they didnt tell you

[George Costanza]

Thank you. No one could've said it better. U should always protect yourself regardless to WHO you are engaging in sexual activities with! Don't generalize cuz it definitely leads to more unnecessary stereotyping. You're at risk if you have unprotected sex with ANYONE, and condoms were originally made for the prevention on pregnancy yes... but the only thing 100% safe is abstinence.

... says Miss bareback 2006! :frustrated

[Kojak]

there is an outbreak of syphillis in London.
a detailed report has been publiced by the uk government.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/547072/london_syphilis_report.pdf

the idea puts me off entirely and is a wake up call for using condoms also on oral sex. that implies no french kissing either i imagine.

[Laphroaig]

Reading the summary page and skimming the rest, there's a few key points. Can't seem to be able to cut and paste properly because of the formatting of the pdf, but:

Since the late 1990s, there has been a sustained increase in the numbers of syphilis cases in England. Several outbreaks have been reported across England, the majority among men
who have sex with men (MSM) although smaller outbreaks among heterosexuals have also been reported.

Men who have sex with men (MSM) in London are disproportionately affected by
syphilis and this is worsening.

in 2015, 2,406 syphilis cases were diagnosed in MSM in London.

MSM accounted for 90% of syphilis cases in 2015.

from 2010 to 2015, the number of syphilis diagnoses in MSM increased from 724 to 2,406 (232% increase), with an increase of 18% from 2014 to 2015 alone.

and importantly, this

Diagnoses of syphilis in heterosexuals in London have been stable though continue to
be higher than we would like with effective preventive measures in place.

Doesn't seem to be too much to worry about for us TS lovers, yet.

On a related note, the "untreatable gonorrhoea" story reported last year seems to have come to little.

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?96647-Gonorrhoea-could-become-untreatable

[CoolAwesomeBXDude]

Re: Catching std off TS has put me off TS..should it?


to answer that ?? no


if yes then u might wanna reconsider rondevous with ggs; some also may have a std

[holzz]

if one uses protection, not really. no concrepction is 100% effective, but then surely now, like decades after AIDS emerged, and with plenty of info available online or in books about STDs, people know not to mix body fluids.... i think, as an unpopular opinion, people who go bareback with strangers should be imprisoned, why spread disease like that?