Better Werewolf: Lon Chaney Jr or Oliver Reed?

[Dino Velvet]

I'm a big fan of Hammer and really like Curse Of The Werewolf. Oliver Reed was very good and I felt sorry for him throughout the entire picture. I like The Wolf Man but didn't feel the sympathy for Chaney Jr as he seemed kinda like a lecherous drunk.

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[youngblood61]

Oliver Reed, because he was so tormented about being a Werewolf.

[Dino Velvet]

Oliver Reed, because he was so tormented about being a Werewolf.

Tormented. Exactly.

I really love Hammer. Great gothic look on the cheap and you'd usually get Lee or Cushing and sometimes both. I thought they were very respectful to Universal also.

[Dino Velvet]

Imagine Lon Chaney Sr instead of Jr in The Wolf Man. I woulda loved to see that. Senior was a genius who knew no bounds. His folks were deaf which gave him an advantage with the non-verbals. Tod Browning originally had him planned to play Dracula as he was beyond creepy in London After Midnight. Unfortunately his health would not allow for it and Bela was doing the stage performance for Dracula. Bela was very good and I take nothing away from him.

Look at Chaney Sr here.

[youngblood61]

Bela was an excellent Dracula.

[Dino Velvet]

Bela was an excellent Dracula.

Ever see the Spanish Dracula? Like Geraldo Rivera as The Prince Of Darkness on the exact same set.

http://images.thehollywoodgossip.com/iu/t_xlarge_p/v1374430010/geraldo-rivera-nude.jpg
"Que pasa. Welcome to my casa. Bano actually"

[pantybulge69]

Is it fair to say that Sir Chaney did not have the luxury of updated improved costume/makeup effect that Reed eventually did in his rea of time ? That would be like comparing Reed to American Werewolf in London.

[pantybulge69]

Tormented. Exactly.

I really love Hammer. Great gothic look on the cheap and you'd usually get Lee or Cushing and sometimes both. I thought they were very respectful to Universal also.

the classic Hammer flick " Vampire Circus " was one of the few exceptions that
did not include Peter Cushing/Christopher Lee.

[pantybulge69]

Bela was an excellent Dracula.

He (Bela Lugosi) was good .. in his own era of Dracula. But when it comes to all-time performers as Dracula - the 6"5 Christopher Lee still is the undisputed Prince of Darkness. :2cent

[sukumvit boy]

Imagine Lon Chaney Sr instead of Jr in The Wolf Man. I woulda loved to see that. Senior was a genius who knew no bounds. His folks were deaf which gave him an advantage with the non-verbals. Tod Browning originally had him planned to play Dracula as he was beyond creepy in London After Midnight. Unfortunately his health would not allow for it and Bela was doing the stage performance for Dracula. Bela was very good and I take nothing away from him.

Look at Chaney Sr here.:iagree:
Yes , let us not forget Chaney senior and all those great silent films of the 1920's.
Reed was probably the better werewolf , but I have a soft spot for the Universal 1941 "The Wolf Man" , with Chaney, Jr. , Bela Lugosi and Maria Ouspenskata.

Also loved this guy ,Warren Zevon and "Werewolves Of London" ,one of my all-time favorite rock tunes , but that's a whole different subject. Just thought some of us might enjoy hearing it again to go with this thread.

Werewolves Of London - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDpYBT0XyvA)

[Dino Velvet]

He (Bela Lugosi) was good .. in his own era of Dracula. But when it comes to all-time performers as Dracula - the 6"5 Christopher Lee still is the undisputed Prince of Darkness. :2cent

Me too with Christopher Lee. He's the best. Not Dracula but I liked the way Kinski played Nosferatu in the remake directed by Herzog.

I watched Dracula with Lugosi for the first time at about 4 years old. I thought he was the hero of the film until I was 9 and a neighbor told me. A buncha hating twats harassing an elegant gentleman that provides hospitality was what I thought.

[blackchubby38]

I'm a big fan of Hammer and really like Curse Of The Werewolf. Oliver Reed was very good and I felt sorry for him throughout the entire picture. I like The Wolf Man but didn't feel the sympathy for Chaney Jr as he seemed kinda like a lecherous drunk.




Tormented. Exactly.

I really love Hammer. Great gothic look on the cheap and you'd usually get Lee or Cushing and sometimes both. I thought they were very respectful to Universal also.

I have become a fan of the Hammer horror movies over the past years. They looked great and there was a element of sexuality in them that you really didn't have with the Universal monster movies. While those movies are indeed classics, I think the Hammer ones are more entertaining.

I'm going to check out The Curse of the Werewolf one of these days.

[Dino Velvet]

I have become a fan of the Hammer horror movies over the past years. They looked great and there was a element of sexuality in them that you really didn't have with the Universal monster movies. While those movies are indeed classics, I think the Hammer ones are more entertaining.

I'm going to check out The Curse of the Werewolf one of these days.

I got this. Picky with some DVD players since they're double-sided DVDs but I never had a problem. 22 bucks so you can't lose. Evil Of Frankenstein too in the set when they got permission to use the Karloff look.

Amazon.com: Hammer Horror Series (Brides of Dracula / Curse of the Werewolf / Phantom of the Opera (1962) / Paranoiac / Kiss of the Vampire / Nightmare / Night Creatures / Evil of Frankenstein): Peter Cushing, Clifford Evans, Herbert Lom, Janette Scott, David Knight, Katy Wild, Oliver Reed, Heather Sears, Moira Redmond, Patrick Allen, Yvonne Romain, Edward de Souza, Jennie Linden, Peter Woodthorpe, Catherine Feller, Michael Gough, Brenda Bruce, Don Sharp, Terence Fisher, Freddie Francis, Peter Graham Scott, Anthony Hinds, Jimmy Sangster, John Elder: Movies & TV@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51BKQBC1P2L.@@AMEPARAM@@51BKQBC1P2L (http://www.amazon.com/Werewolf-Paranoiac-Nightmare-Creatures-Frankenstein/dp/B0009X770O/ref=sr_1_2?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1391486998&sr=1-2&keywords=curse+werewolf)

[sukumvit boy]

Me too with Christopher Lee. He's the best. Not Dracula but I liked the way Kinski played Nosferatu in the remake directed by Herzog.:Bowdown:

I watched Dracula with Lugosi for the first time at about 4 years old. I thought he was the hero of the film until I was 9 and a neighbor told me. A buncha hating twats harassing an elegant gentleman that provides hospitality was what I thought.

Yeah , Dino don't let me get started on the Werner Hertzog 1974 remake of Nosferatu , brilliant! We covered that in the 'Dracula' thread.
Fuhgeddabouddit.

[Dino Velvet]

Yeah , Dino don't let me get started on the Werner Hertzog 1979 remake of Nosferatu , brilliant! We covered that in the 'Dracula' thread.
Fuhgeddabouddit.

My favorite scene of the film doesn't even have Nosferatu in it.

Nosferatu 1979 (best scene) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdzHAKPV7dk)

[Stavros]

Apparently Oliver Reed's first role in film was as 'a flamboyant homosexual' in The League of Gentlemen (1959). Few people other than Michael Winner bothered to attend Reed's funeral in Ireland (he is buried not far from a pub), and Winner for the first time at a funeral, including those of his parents, cried....

[youngblood61]

He (Bela Lugosi) was good .. in his own era of Dracula. But when it comes to all-time performers as Dracula - the 6"5 Christopher Lee still is the undisputed Prince of Darkness. :2centNo argument here.:)

[Dino Velvet]

Apparently Oliver Reed's first role in film was as 'a flamboyant homosexual' in The League of Gentlemen (1959). Few people other than Michael Winner bothered to attend Reed's funeral in Ireland (he is buried not far from a pub), and Winner for the first time at a funeral, including those of his parents, cried....

Thanks for the tidbit. Interesting. Oliver Reed was such a character in life. I don't know if I'da wanted to be his next door neighbor though. Mine throw crazy Persian house parties every 6 months but quiet as a stoner like me otherwise.

[the_unnatural]

Oliver Reed must have been a lot of fun--and a bit dangerous--to be around.http://lowres-picturecabinet.com.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/43/main/49/127791.jpg

[Stavros]

After appearing on the Des O'Connor Show Reed never appeared on a chat show again, I believe -he was clearly drunk, and in the youtube link they have censored out the word 'cock' which is where he says he has been tattooed. Producers took the view he was too much of a risk on live television. You may need to wear headphones as Reed tends to mumble. He was on the show to promote the film Castaway.

Des and Ollie - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=884ZWGOJsWA)

[Dino Velvet]

Enjoy this too.
http://www.virginmedia.com/images/oliver-reed-gal-431.jpg

Outrageous Oliver Reed Interview on Late Night (1987) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPXMHZ4XEs0)

[Stavros]

Amazing, I don't think any mainstream tv station would allow this to happen these days. And there are moments when you think Letterman might end up on his back....thanks for the link!!

[Dino Velvet]

Amazing, I don't think any mainstream tv station would allow this to happen these days. And there are moments when you think Letterman might end up on his back....thanks for the link!!

You're welcome and I'm glad you enjoyed. Dave was really funny back then on NBC at 12:30AM. When he moved to CBS at 11:30PM he seemed to start playing safe. Those old NBC shows were flying by the seat of their pants for an hour and Dave was quick and adaptable to all kinds of nonsense and unpredictability.

[rockabilly]

Reed.

[Dino Velvet]

Amazing, I don't think any mainstream tv station would allow this to happen these days. And there are moments when you think Letterman might end up on his back....thanks for the link!!

Classic American Television. You are going to really enjoy this. You can almost smell Shelley Winters' armpits through the monitor.

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Shelley Winters & Oliver Reed Carson 1975 - Video Dailymotion@@AMEPARAM@@http://www.dailymotion.com/swf/video@@AMEPARAM@@video (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x121v3t_shelley-winters-oliver-reed-carson-1975_fun)