Condoms and Testing

[lifeisfiction]

Condoms and No Testing vs. Testing and No Condoms

For all those who enjoy porn there is a divide for condoms and testing. Of course sex in of itself has its inherent risks, still I was curious what system would performers, producers and consumers prefer. There are obvious pros and cons for both systems so there is room for a discussion.

I keep seeing performers who really want condoms and I see consumers and really don't want condoms. Personally I prefer bareback porn, for me its something I don't engage in my personal life so its nice to watch it on screen. I am curious what do all of you think?

[MrBest]

im pretty sure testing is across the board

[MrBest]

heres some helpful info regarding hiv testing for anyone that is active

HIV TEST and HIV TESTING LONDON - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0n2VZdV1L0)

[lifeisfiction]

Lol, I didn't say testing was across the board. However, with the push for condoms testing will drop significantly. The reason for testing was to lower the risk of infection, by having certain group monitored. Especially with the rise of HIV. Getting that out he way.

Would you be fine in a porn with only condoms or would like the choice to have non condom porn?

[EvaCassini]

You don't know porn then.

Any performer for every shoot that showcases ANY interaction between 2 or more, are REQUIRED to have a current test and that that test shows Negative in every test panel.

Otherwise the shoot stops, and it's called off, or they find a suitable, reliable, and clean replacement who does have a current clean test on hand with them to bring.

Testing will never go away in porn. At least in TS porn, as I cannot speak for other niches or mainstream.

[lifeisfiction]

Looking at Los Angeles willingness to pass a condom only law, what is there to stop other states from following suit. The condom law is in regards to all porn produce in the particular area. I never said porn has no current testing system. I am with you the current system has been excellent with detecting STDs and especially HIV transmissions.

LA Region was a porn mecca and for them to pass condom only legislation, well what is there to stop other places from doing the same. Will we be happy with condom porn only or will there be the option for variety. I fear it will be a large portion of condom only porn coming our way.

[WendyWilliams]

You don't know porn then.

Any performer for every shoot that showcases ANY interaction between 2 or more, are REQUIRED to have a current test and that that test shows Negative in every test panel.

Otherwise the shoot stops, and it's called off, or they find a suitable, reliable, and clean replacement who does have a current clean test on hand with them to bring.

Testing will never go away in porn. At least in TS porn, as I cannot speak for other niches or mainstream.

Sadly you are wrong. Though by Industry Standards we are required too, legally there is no law. Outside of LA based shoots many companies are NOT testing when condoms are used. Though I think everyone should require testing whether a condom is used or not there are shoots happening outside of LA, Vegas, Etc who are not requiring talent to be tested.

I have no problem if condoms is being used for models to have a 14 day test from the health department, doctor or testing facility (blood not mouth swab).

But to your response sadly that is not the case nationwide with some TS studios. For instance a producer in LA will require testing and encourage whereas the Florida producer for the same company will not.

[lifeisfiction]

Sadly you are wrong. Though by Industry Standards we are required too, legally there is no law. Outside of LA based shoots many companies are NOT testing when condoms are used. Though I think everyone should require testing whether a condom is used or not there are shoots happening outside of LA, Vegas, Etc who are not requiring talent to be tested.

I have no problem if condoms is being used for models to have a 14 day test from the health department, doctor or testing facility (blood not mouth swab).

But to your response sadly that is not the case nationwide with some TS studios. For instance a producer in LA will require testing and encourage whereas the Florida producer for the same company will not.

Thank you Wendy, I never knew that information. You have been a strong advocate for testing and this information helps make the picture clearer. Do you think a universal testing system across all of porn would be sufficient?

[EvaCassini]

I must have not been clear, I only meant LA because that is where I have been shot primarily. I was not speaking for "outside LA".

Though, I have had a few shoots in Kansas City and was required to have a clean current test. The same with Kink in SF.

Also note that I said "required" in my OP, and nothing about "law".

I have been asked many times to shoot with "inquirers" ( fans and/or new/small companies ) and they are clearly not reliable because, I myself, require those who wish to shoot with me a current and clean test. Otherwise, they will not perform at all. And 99.9% of the time with those requests, they either say they will do it and then never call back or simply scamper off and not say anything back to me, whether yea or nay.

[WendyWilliams]

Thank you Wendy, I never knew that information. You have been a strong advocate for testing and this information helps make the picture clearer. Do you think a universal testing system across all of porn would be sufficient?


I only worry about myself and talent I work with, I don't like the idea of telling anyone they should or should not wear a condom.

Ideally universal testing would be ideal especially in gay porn however that isn't the case. I think the majority of TS are responsible in the Adult Industry and take it serious and usually have to test at some point. Like Eva said in LA its just common practice whether a condom is used or not. They however fall in a trap where a few places are making money off testing because limited places are on the "ok" list of places that studios will take results from.

[lifeisfiction]

One more question if you don't mind do you think studios should encourage testing among its producers. I know producers have various beliefs on condom usage, however should studios encourage or should it be left the producers and performers?

I am not looking to create a Big Brother of testing, however the porn industry greatly scrutinized in terms health compare to any other industry. Its almost as bad as baseball. If there is anything that compromises a single performers health not even confirmed will make the evening news.

[WendyWilliams]

One more question if you don't mind do you think studios should encourage testing among its producers. I know producers have various beliefs on condom usage, however should studios encourage or should it be left the producers and performers?

I am not looking to create a Big Brother of testing, however the porn industry greatly scrutinized in terms health compare to any other industry. Its almost as bad as baseball. If there is anything that compromises a single performers health not even confirmed will make the evening news.


I would think that studios make the rules and producers follow them. I think condom use should be up to the performers with testing which is the current Industry Standard. I don't like what is happening in California where they are trying to force condoms. I guess its up to the owners of the studios to make the best decision for their brand.

[SammiValentine]

One more question if you don't mind do you think studios should encourage testing among its producers. I know producers have various beliefs on condom usage, however should studios encourage or should it be left the producers and performers?

I am not looking to create a Big Brother of testing, however the porn industry greatly scrutinized in terms health compare to any other industry. Its almost as bad as baseball. If there is anything that compromises a single performers health not even confirmed will make the evening news.

you gonna need more than a conodm the next time we play quakelive ;-))

[lifeisfiction]

you gonna need more than a conodm the next time we play quakelive ;-))

The 4 liters of lube would have been about right. I have been practicing, so I might cut it down 2 liters the next time we play.

[ladd3rfr3ak]

Well for me as a viewer, porn with condom hasn't worked at all. so i would say strict safety measures and no condoms.

[Jamie French]

I've never heard of a studio/director that would allow any performer to shoot without a test. I've been on sets for Hustler, Anabolic, Vivid, Redlight District, Evil Angel, etc, etc. Name a company and I've been there. Through my own 8 years experience in the industry and 4 years of dating GG mainstream performer I NEVER heard of a situation where not having your blood test didn't get you immediately sent home with a kill fee on your hands. Not even with the most amateur freelancers who only shoot no-name bulk content. You don't test, you don't work. There are industry wide moratoriums over this crap... where anyone got the idea that testing wasn't mandatory means two things 1.)That they are wrong. 2.) Friggin' weird that they would even come up with the thought to begin with. It's such an industry specific thing to be concerned with. It's strange that this is even a thread.

[Jamie French]

You can't make NO condoms mandatory. Your boner isn't so important that people would put their health at risk. We haven't even met you... what if your a piece of shit? Why would anyone have to be forced to film without a condom because it ruins your whack session? I wouldn't perform at risk for a friend, I surely wouldn't risk my well being for a stranger whose boner gets sad at the sight of a condom.


Well for me as a viewer, porn with condom hasn't worked at all. so i would say strict safety measures and no condoms.

[cdgirl-tr]

I've never heard of a studio/director that would allow any performer to shoot without a test. I've been on sets for Hustler, Anabolic, Vivid, Redlight District, Evil Angel, etc, etc. Name a company and I've been there. Through my own 8 years experience in the industry and 4 years of dating GG mainstream performer I NEVER heard of a situation where not having your blood test didn't get you immediately sent home with a kill fee on your hands. Not even with the most amateur freelancers who only shoot no-name bulk content. You don't test, you don't work. There are industry wide moratoriums over this crap... where anyone got the idea that testing wasn't mandatory means two things 1.)That they are wrong. 2.) Friggin' weird that they would even come up with the thought to begin with. It's such an industry specific thing to be concerned with. It's strange that this is even a thread.

if you dont mind a off topic question, who was your GG performer girlfriend ?

[WendyWilliams]

I've never heard of a studio/director that would allow any performer to shoot without a test. I've been on sets for Hustler, Anabolic, Vivid, Redlight District, Evil Angel, etc, etc. Name a company and I've been there. Through my own 8 years experience in the industry and 4 years of dating GG mainstream performer I NEVER heard of a situation where not having your blood test didn't get you immediately sent home with a kill fee on your hands. Not even with the most amateur freelancers who only shoot no-name bulk content. You don't test, you don't work. There are industry wide moratoriums over this crap... where anyone got the idea that testing wasn't mandatory means two things 1.)That they are wrong. 2.) Friggin' weird that they would even come up with the thought to begin with. It's such an industry specific thing to be concerned with. It's strange that this is even a thread.


Well then be proud that you have never seen that, I ASSURE YOU that outside of LA and Vegas there are studios allowing models to shoot with condom only and NO test. I ASSURE YOU OF IT. And these are fairly large companies but models are not required to bring a Industry standard HIV test when a condom is being used.

[ladd3rfr3ak]

You can't make NO condoms mandatory. Your boner isn't so important that people would put their health at risk. We haven't even met you... what if your a piece of shit? Why would anyone have to be forced to film without a condom because it ruins your whack session? I wouldn't perform at risk for a friend, I surely wouldn't risk my well being for a stranger whose boner gets sad at the sight of a condom.

Are you a retard or what? did i say make no condoms mandatory, you wouldn't perform without a condom for a strangers cock, but you would if the producers throw money on your face.

[Jamie French]

And if I ever heard of that in my experience I could assure you that all it would take is one phone call to LA Direct, where I could get patched directly through to Derek and drop the dime on said company. The 'fairly large' company would be reverted to casting talent directly off of Craigslist and street corners where they more than likely started.


Well then be proud that you have never seen that, I ASSURE YOU that outside of LA and Vegas there are studios allowing models to shoot with condom only and NO test. I ASSURE YOU OF IT. And these are fairly large companies but models are not required to bring a Industry standard HIV test when a condom is being used.

[Jamie French]

Apparently you're very new here. Hello, I'm Jamie and I gleefully throw money away on an weekly basis for nothing more than my principles. I live for those delicious little power trips the manifest when some douche-bag with deep pockets realizes that I openly laugh at money. You have no idea who you are talking too. Retard.

(BTW. I AM one of those producers. Do your research.)


Are you a retard or what? did i say make no condoms mandatory, you wouldn't perform without a condom for a strangers cock, but you would if the producers throw money on your face.