Am i gay guy if im bottom with cute sexy passable transsexual ladies?

[lovelyguy]

Hi, new here. So please share your opinions. Its 2014 here. So am i gay if im bottom with m2f preop ts lady?

[Prospero]

No - 100 per cent not. Unless you also want to bottom with a hunky guy.

[Ben in LA]

Do you mean gay as in happy?

[lovelyguy]

Do you mean gay as in happy?

Ure funny though. I mean whats my sexuality then?

[Wendy Summers]

Hi, new here. So please share your opinions. Its 2014 here. So am i gay if im bottom with m2f preop ts lady?

I've already said my piece on this topic...

5216654617090.mp4

[bte]

Hi, new here. So please share your opinions. Its 2014 here. So am i gay if im bottom with m2f preop ts lady?

How come you didn't ask if you were gay if you topped a m2f preop ts lady? In any rate, why do you care if you are gay, straight, or bisexual? If someone said you were gay on this site, would you stop being a bottom and have some moral crisis about it?

[Prospero]

The debate about labels is a valid one... but first this faggot needs reassurance that he is not a nonce or a pooftah

[Ananke]

The debate about labels is a valid one... but first this faggot needs reassurance that he is not a nonce or a pooftah
New Year resolution: let's give faggot, nonce, pooftah and the like a positive connotation.
So nobody will ask the question "Am I gay if....." anymore!:claps
I'm gay? I'm bi? I'm whatever? ...Vive la différence

[SammiValentine]

Do you like ricky martin, justin bieber, britney spears, have regular manicures or carry a manbag? use a bit to much hairgel? All important factors.

[lovelyguy]

Wtf people? Why are u so rude?im new to all this and a lil bit confused about all defenitions, thats why im asking. I dont need your hate or insults. All i ask is for your opinion and help.

[lovelyguy]

Do you like ricky martin, justin bieber, britney spears, have regular manicures or carry a manbag? use a bit to much hairgel? All important factors.

No, i dont. Except few songs from Martin.

[StinkyPete1000]

Of course you are!!


Just kidding...who cares! Do what you like. Do what feels good. If it's not hurting anyone...enjoy.

[lovelyguy]

Of course you are!!


Just kidding...who cares! Do what you like. Do what feels good. If it's not hurting anyone...enjoy.

Thats all confusing

[nysprod]

Do you like ricky martin, justin bieber, britney spears, have regular manicures or carry a manbag? use a bit to much hairgel? All important factors.


No, i dont. Except few songs from Martin.


How about GaGa? Shopping?

[lovelyguy]

How about GaGa? Shopping?

Lady Gaga is cool. Hate shopping. But whats this all about?

[daltx_m]

yes you're as gay as everyone else on here.

[LibertyHarkness]

Your not straight thats a certain . Cock on cock is not hetrosexual sex ..

Are you attracted to men, manly looks etc if so then yes you could be leaning towards gay .. but that can be counted out if your also attracted to females .. in that context then your bisexual ..

Generally speaking most guys that are into Pre Op TS and enjoy the cock part I would put at Bisexual ... Facts are Facts Cock on cock is a homosexual activity .. If your not attracted to men though and only women then just go with bisexual ..

As other posters mentioned who really cares .. enjoy what you like at end of day ..

Note - no one is being insulting on here its just humor from the posters . your new so you will learn i time the humor on this forum ..

Its a gay old board indeed :) x

PS - if you push back when being fucked then its only gay :)

[fred41]

PS - if you push back when being fucked then its only gay :)

Doooh!!! I knew it...now I can't undo it!!!








..what if while you're doing it you make a deep manly grunting sound ...as opposed to an effeminate "ooooooooooooooooh"...? Do you win some hetero points back?...:)

[lovelyguy]

How about GaGa? Shopping?


Doooh!!! I knew it...now I can't undo it!!!

Ure gay if u push back while being fucked? Liberty, is this some kind of joke?)

[dderek123]

http://bbsimg.ngfiles.com/15/22977000/ngbbs4e0e0ac8caf94.jpg

[SammiValentine]

Your not straight thats a certain . Cock on cock is not hetrosexual sex ..

Are you attracted to men, manly looks etc if so then yes you could be leaning towards gay .. but that can be counted out if your also attracted to females .. in that context then your bisexual ..

Generally speaking most guys that are into Pre Op TS and enjoy the cock part I would put at Bisexual ... Facts are Facts Cock on cock is a homosexual activity .. If your not attracted to men though and only women then just go with bisexual ..

As other posters mentioned who really cares .. enjoy what you like at end of day ..

Note - no one is being insulting on here its just humor from the posters . your new so you will learn i time the humor on this forum ..

Its a gay old board indeed :) x

PS - if you push back when being fucked then its only gay :)


queg

[LibertyHarkness]

sammi your a proper a marmite miner sweetie xx dont confuse the poor soul in this delicate time :) xx haha x

[SammiValentine]

Ure gay if u push back while being fucked? Liberty, is this some kind of joke?)

its very very true.

any str8 fella can confirm this.

[SammiValentine]

sammi your a proper a marmite miner sweetie xx dont confuse the poor soul in this delicate time :) xx haha x

whenever I read "am i gay thread" reminds me what your dad said to me all those years ago ROFL :D

[nysprod]

Share!

[lovelyguy]

its very very true.

any str8 fella can confirm this.

Stop confusing me

[LilyRox]

Pretty sure you're gay if you don't suck her cock.

http://i.imgur.com/isaen.gif

[dderek123]

lol marmite miner

[lovelyguy]

Pretty sure you're gay if you don't suck her cock.

http://i.imgur.com/isaen.gif

Well Lily, shes hot

[SammiValentine]

sammi your a proper a marmite miner sweetie xx dont confuse the poor soul in this delicate time :) xx haha x

your bronze medal at london 2012 olympics for poo-pushing is not to be understated btw.

your a real winner my batty little friend xx

#GOteamgb

[clevelandswabbie]

well...if u would like to think that's the case...me? maybe i'm bi...i'm really going to like the exploration of those possibilities w/a passable or not so much so trans...

[dderek123]

Pretty sure you're gay if you don't suck her cock.



http://i.imgur.com/8d29WCJ.gif

[LilyRox]

http://i.imgur.com/8d29WCJ.gif

Haha so wrong on so many levels. Viewing tranny porn at school xD.

[SammiValentine]

Its less gay if you bottom from the top. Say your a DOMINANT MASTER and you force these ladies to slop around with their helmet of love inside your gaping-A. This works in your favour, 6/10 readers digest subscribers say "DEFFO NOT PROPER GAY,JUST A BIT" . This is based on a survey held as recently as 2010.

[ts eva paradis]

Hi, new here. So please share your opinions. Its 2014 here. So am i gay if im bottom with m2f preop ts lady? there is nothing wrong to live the sex in very open way!!! you r not gay at all unless you feel attracted only to man!!! i do have many clients who are only passive with me and some of them asked me the same!!! if u have sex with transsexual ( you are not gay) gay guys goes with gay guys only not with ts or female

[lovelyguy]

Its less gay if you bottom from the top. Say your a DOMINANT MASTER and you force these ladies to slop around with their helmet of love inside your gaping-A. This works in your favour, 6/10 readers digest subscribers say "DEFFO NOT PROPER GAY,JUST A BIT" . This is based on a survey held as recently as 2010.


wtf? is this some kinda of joke or what? i dont get local humour. And what if screwed doggy? that makes u more gay? thats nonsense

[SammiValentine]

wtf? is this some kinda of joke or what? i dont get local humour. And what if screwed doggy? that makes u more gay? thats nonsense

I wouldnt know about the whole Dog thing, illegal here. Dont want to lead you astray.

[lovelyguy]

there is nothing wrong to live the sex in very open way!!! you r not gay at all unless you feel attracted only to man!!! i do have many clients who are only passive with me and some of them asked me the same!!! if u have sex with transsexual ( you are not gay) gay guys goes with gay guys only not with ts or female

ty for nice answer. then why many people still consider relationships between ts and male to be homosexual?

[fred41]

Is it ever gay if you never bottom...only top...


...but like to have a turnip stuck in your ass while you're topping?
...no wait...make that a potato...it's a more macho root vegetable.

[lovelyguy]

I wouldnt know about the whole Dog thing, illegal here. Dont want to lead you astray.

u already done this

[SammiValentine]

ty for nice answer. then why many people still consider relationships between ts and male to be homosexual?


sigh. ok serious answer time. I would have a little read about the spectrum of sexuality and also the gender spectrum to try get your head around the concept of not having to label everything. Labeles do not fit the reality of science and such spectrums. It does fit modern westen binary concepts, which are a load of bollacks. Once you get your head around that then the world looks a very different place.

[Nikka]

lovelyguy what a fucking troll

[ts eva paradis]

ty for nice answer. then why many people still consider relationships between ts and male to be homosexual? unfortunately there is still a lot of ignorance, people will always say bad stuff about everything,,,who give shit about what people think or say!! just do what u like and what makes u happy!!!

[SammiValentine]

u already done this

I was barking up the wrong tree, apologies.

[SammiValentine]

lovelyguy what a fucking troll

nikkkaaaaaaaa i like your song!!!!!!!!!:D

[SammiValentine]

ty for nice answer. then why many people still consider relationships between ts and male to be homosexual?

Cos to a lot of people its cock and hole, a hole with a cock. Like the song, God gave cock and hole to youuuuuuu, god gave cock and hole to youuuuuuuu. God made adam and eve, not adam and steve, even if steve is now called stephanie. bla blaaaaaaaa etc.

As long as you dont swallow. Every clouds got a silver lining.

[Nikka]

nikkkaaaaaaaa i like your song!!!!!!!!!:D

hit me up on skype please Sammi !

[lovelyguy]

id appreciate if u leave your trolling behind this subject. ty

[Northof60]

Wtf people? Why are u so rude?im new to all this and a lil bit confused about all defenitions, thats why im asking. I dont need your hate or insults. All i ask is for your opinion and help.

Seriously dude? You start a thread like this and you're just asking for it - cuz no one here is gonna take this shit seriously.

[Tyler___Durden]

Hi, new here. So please share your opinions. Its 2014 here. So am i gay if im bottom with m2f preop ts lady?
You might be gay
or bisexual
or straight.
Us lot have no idea.

There's only one way to find out:
Go to a gay bar, pick up a man
or hire a gay male escort.
In either case, have sex with them.
Decide if enjoyed it.

Please write back with your findings as we are all dying to know.

[bigkid69]

Cock on cock is not hetrosexual sex ..




I would love to have cock on cock sex with you Liberty!:fuckin:

[MrsKellyPierce]

My opinion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIKZHofr2og

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OY575g8rKc

[lordworm]

Is a tgirl straight if she fucks ggs? Oh what have I done here? I don't even

[Prospero]

So you see... Ask a question like that and you will get wit, sarcasm, advice, doubt, jokes etc etc. only YOU can decide if you are gay or not.

But you know it does not matter at all! Just get comfortable with who you are and what you like.

[Tyler___Durden]

Wtf people? Why are u so rude?im new to all this and a lil bit confused about all defenitions, thats why im asking. I dont need your hate or insults. All i ask is for your opinion and help.
Two types of responses on these types of threads:
1. From the men.
What turns you on, turns them on.
So if you are gay then the suggestion is that they are too
{Nothing wrong with being gay or straight or bi.
But a large % of men on HA and in the western world in general
have issues with any inference (no matter how indirect like for example, your OP)
that they are potentially gay}
2. From transsexual women.
We may take great offence at your OP.
Why? Because it ungenders us.
If you think sex with us may be gay male sex,
...the inference is that we are men.
And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to... (http://tinyurl.com/6f2zphd)
Opps! I went all Samuel L Jackson on you there for a moment!

As an aside, I am gay.
I've got a boyfriend but he is just a cover*.
Just so the straight world think I'm straight.
The obvious proof I'm a lezza being that I'm watching season 4 of The L-Word on DVD.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWcaOs8dgF0


*Not really, I love him to bits. ...But I'm mainly into other women.

[Prospero]

Wish you lived closer Tyler. We could be homos together

[SammiValentine]

Do you get a semi on or a damp mangina watching worlds strongest man? An urge to stroke your puckered ring with your pinky when theyre pushing that meaty ball thing? If so then yes, I would say quite gay. But your still loved, especially if you wear a little sailor hat and develop a lisp.

[Tyler___Durden]

PS - if you push back when being fucked then its only gay :)
OMG Libby.
lovelyguy hasn't got Gaydar!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wIzccXGziE

[ctguynextdoor]

Your not straight thats a certain . Cock on cock is not hetrosexual sex ..

Are you attracted to men, manly looks etc if so then yes you could be leaning towards gay .. but that can be counted out if your also attracted to females .. in that context then your bisexual ..

Generally speaking most guys that are into Pre Op TS and enjoy the cock part I would put at Bisexual ... Facts are Facts Cock on cock is a homosexual activity .. If your not attracted to men though and only women then just go with bisexual ..

As other posters mentioned who really cares .. enjoy what you like at end of day ..

Note - no one is being insulting on here its just humor from the posters . your new so you will learn i time the humor on this forum ..

Its a gay old board indeed :) x

PS - if you push back when being fucked then its only gay :)


Love this:) So right on as well...I asked myself the same question for years until I figured out it just doesn't matter. I like cock....'nuff said. If you like female parts as well you are bi....if you just like male parts you are gay. Either way you will enjoy it all more if you relax and forget about labels.

[Tyler___Durden]

Wish you lived closer Tyler. We could be homos together
Yeah. I'd like that.
We could go for a beer at the gay bar, gay bar....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulPgWVC08KI

[nysprod]

Do you get a semi on or a damp mangina watching worlds strongest man? An urge to stroke your puckered ring with your pinky when theyre pushing that meaty ball thing? If so then yes, I would say quite gay. But your still loved, especially if you wear a little sailor hat and develop a lisp.

Mangina lmfao!

[scroller]

My response...

[Prospero]

Gay and illiterate... Or have I misread this

[Dino Velvet]

Queer like Rock Hudson but not gay like Fred Astaire.

[LibertyHarkness]

prospero , Tyler and Sammi i have this for you peeps :)

can we go this weekend pleasee :)

Electric Six - Gay Bar (UNCENSORED High Quality) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XNFokmDKrE)

[Prospero]

It's a date but only if we all dress as US Presidents.

[Dino Velvet]

It's a date but only if we all dress as US Presidents.

Which one of the ladies will be Obama?

[Prospero]

Lol... We have to recruit a Moslem TS to play him

[Dino Velvet]

Lol... We have to recruit a Moslem TS to play him

Hopefully she's petite and delicate enough. Being a little cheeky with the Muslim stuff too, huh?

[clevelandswabbie]

i think it's from Queen Dingaling...from Dallas...she's looking for st8 guys who like being the bottom for great looking women...so, maybe it's more important what on earth ur partner considers you...

for future considerations & options...

[lordworm]

Do you get a semi on or a damp mangina watching worlds strongest man? An urge to stroke your puckered ring with your pinky when theyre pushing that meaty ball thing? If so then yes, I would say quite gay. But your still loved, especially if you wear a little sailor hat and develop a lisp.

Hey worlds strongest men are awesome... I would love to... share a drink with them... or a chicken breast.

[SammiValentine]

Hey worlds strongest men are awesome... I would love to... share a drink with them... or a chicken breast.


mmm breast of both worlds x

[fred41]

Do you like ricky martin.......

Would it be considered gay to kiss Ricky Martin on the lips,...even if it's a windy day...to apply emergency mouth to mouth ChapStick?

[fred41]

Hmmm...How about a goat...same scenario?


Just wondering out loud.

[fred41]

Or would that just be baaaaahhddd!



Sorry for that.

[crystalsopen]

Do you mean gay as in happy?
:iagree: If you find a girl who like that, you should be happy. Most of the trans-girls I know are bottom only. Not necessarily most of the performers I have met, just most of the tgirls I have met in general.

[BellaBellucci]

Yes.

~BB~

[jamesedwards]

Hi, new here. So please share your opinions. Its 2014 here. So am i gay if im bottom with m2f preop ts lady?

NO! you're just a freaky dick loving guy of a sexy TGirl.

[RallyCola]

you are gay only if your boyfriend is gay.

[nysprod]

Damn how I wish I could change my username to Mangina!

[RallyCola]

Damn how I wish I could change my username to Mangina!

no need to change it...we all know you are a tucker.

[tsmirandameadows]

Wtf people? Why are u so rude?im new to all this and a lil bit confused about all defenitions, thats why im asking. I dont need your hate or insults. All i ask is for your opinion and help.

Because this is a conversation that gets repeated about once a week, reminding us all that this forum too easily devolves into a Sisyphean, Ground Hogs Day-like hell? And also because it's kind of pathetic that you're so insecure about labels? Frankly, if a guy is worried about whether he's a fag or not for liking me, than he can find someone else.

[Jamie French]

These kind of questions are weak as all hell. No mercy for these fags.

[STARTUP999]

In baseball it doesn't matter if your pitching or catching, its the same game.
Same here, if you think your gay because your bottoming for a T-girl, your just as gay if your topping her.

As others have said here, get over the labels. It doesn't matter what they are anyway.

If your lucky enough to find a nice girl TG or GG, just treat her right and be happy.

In my case, I am attracted to women GG and TG not men. I love bottoming and topping and eating pussy and sucking TG cock. Others may say I'm bi. Since I consider a TG woman a woman I say I am straight. But does it really matter?

[clevelandswabbie]

this is what i think...and i'm not an experienced hand @ this...it's beautiful when two people make love...i think so...'poetry in motion' is what we used in our Shakespeare classes...words will describe anything the way their user intends; 'stereotypes, profiles, probably are just a 'reference' signifying a general description for really some strangers maybe. if i were to ask myself a similar question, i'd ask myself is it the passable or just a flicker of humor or enchantment that makes me feel i'm liked by the other person i'm with...i like girls w/muscles...probably because i'm a trained artist w/BFA.

i don't try to explain my emotions to myself...'two's company' and i think that matters.

i'm no expert...just, like u trying new waters...i'm somewhat cautious & clumsy; it's still fun to have new friends.

Queen Dingaling was the first beauty to turn my head...top of my list...

[RallyCola]

...
If your lucky enough to find a nice girl TG or GG, just treat her right and be happy.

or if she is a masochist, treat her wrong and be even happier

[bte]

Is a tgirl straight if she fucks ggs? Oh what have I done here? I don't even

Mind fucking blown!

[robertlouis]

Oh fuck.

[Ben in LA]

Once again Miranda and Jamie serve the real, marinated with facts and basted with truth. Tastes good, huh?

Now waiting for bitchmade "remonster" to thumbs-down this reality...pussy...

[Ananke]

I think the OP has given up.
I hope he is not totally traumatized.....:cry

[robertlouis]

Once again Miranda and Jamie serve the real, marinated with facts and basted with truth. Tastes good, huh?

Now waiting for bitchmade "remonster" to thumbs-down this reality...pussy...

:iagree: This stuff is so tired, like endlessly recycled cardboard and just about as appetising.

Off topic, but just who is that beautiful girl in your avatar, Ben?

[Ben in LA]

Off topic, but just who is that beautiful girl in your avatar, Ben?

My friend Katrina Li

[robertlouis]

My friend Katrina Li

I rather like your choice of friends! :)

[Rusty Eldora]

In baseball it doesn't matter if your pitching or catching, its the same game.
Same here, if you think your gay because your bottoming for a T-girl, your just as gay if your topping her.

As others have said here, get over the labels. It doesn't matter what they are anyway.

If your lucky enough to find a nice girl TG or GG, just treat her right and be happy.

In my case, I am attracted to women GG and TG not men. I love bottoming and topping and eating pussy and sucking TG cock. Others may say I'm bi. Since I consider a TG woman a woman I say I am straight. But does it really matter?

I'm with a beautiful woman - straight, I am sucking & taking shecock - probably bi. Both of our labels don't fit, but I don't care really. It is both wild sex but also profoundly intimate. Transwomen seem to do it better.

[bluesoul]

Wtf people? Why are u so rude?im new to all this and a lil bit confused about all defenitions, thats why im asking. I dont need your hate or insults. All i ask is for your opinion and help.

you're asking the wrong crowd, that's why you're getting these kinds of answers.

you yourself know the truth- that's why you're asking. because you're hoping to be convinced otherwise

[dderek123]

http://i.imgur.com/aONOD.jpg

[STARTUP999]

Originally Posted by lovelyguy
Wtf people? Why are u so rude?im new to all this and a lil bit confused about all definitions, thats why im asking. I dont need your hate or insults. All i ask is for your opinion and help.

Lovelyguy has a point.

Many of us here are long time admirers or providers who have read or heard these questions before we can still be kind to someone who is still working through those issues. Even if they just need someone to confirm what they probably already know. -

I would think this would be a safe place to talk to people who have been there. No one has to click on the post if it bothers them. For me its a nice little change up from "what ever happened to xxxxx? "Which T girl has the best (fill in body part)?" and even Franklin's always entertaining and often thought provoking gems.

Maybe most of you were always secure and dialed in to your sexuality and gender identification. I was not at all. I came from a downright homophobic environment. In my nearly all white high school I was confused and terrified by my attraction to an extremely effeminate (and very cute) mixed race boy who dressed like a girl and was mercilessly tormented by girls (I guess they felt threatened). I could not understand why he would "choose" to subject himself to that horrible treatment, why anyone would bother him anyway and why I felt so attracted to him.

I wish there had been someone to help me sort out all the issues that are tied up in that scenario. If there had been maybe I would have had the courage to befriend him instead of just standing by silently because I was afraid if I did people would think I was "gay."
Maybe I would have not felt guilty for thinking of him when I masturbated instead of the stash of playboys my brother's had.

There is plenty of sarcasm, snarkyness and hate around maybe this little porn forum could be a tiny refuge from that.

Now please excuse me I need some private time with those hot pictures of Jamie shoving that huge horse cock dildo up her ass.

[lovelyguy]

all i can say, its not straight to be with ts. no matter how sexy and passable she is. this is how i feel now.

[Ben in LA]

None of us are straight. Not only do we all have curves, we're all crooked.

[AL121]

Of course it makes you gay, the question not the bottom thing, if you care to much if anyone thinks of you as a fag you already are one you fag-boy ;)

[STARTUP999]

Re: Am i gay guy if im bottom with cute sexy passable transsexual ladies?

all i can say, its not straight to be with ts. no matter how sexy and passable she is. this is how i feel now.


The original question was about bottoming, my point is that topping a TS is no less "gay" than bottoming.

Your technically right of course, in the strictest sense if a man is having sex with someone he knows has an XY chromosome then its homosexual. But sexuality and gender is a much more complex in humans, we are more than the sum of our biology.

To me though my attraction to TG ladies is no more "gay" than my attraction to muscle babes. In the end I don't care what others think, whether its psychologists, my family, anonymous people on forums. I suggest if someone worries about being "gay" due to their attraction to TG's they shouldn't go any further than watching porn in private.

I agree with Ben, I like my curves, whatever that makes me.

[clevelandswabbie]

...i'm impressed w/the sensible talk about a profound topic. i'm an "original late bloomer". i grew up in the cold war and the atmosphere was repressive. but it wasn't judgmental about sexual attraction. no, when i was in high school, while i was latent, i wasn't physically attracted to men. then in the Navy, a transwoman made a pass on North Beach, San Francisco. i remember it. She said "U like me and the good news is i'm just like you."

then came all the chemistry. i'm out in S. Calif and a flash of color & movement and i cannot take my eyes off her. neither does anybody else. "gay" wasn't my thinking..."nuts about" and "hadn't done that yet" is the truth.

demographics favor the east & west coasts...i had to return to the midwest for family. i got my PC and just this summer a hostel opened for transwomen in my city (michigan). i just try to flirt. i get smiles & winks from black tgirls. good gosh i've decided she's WAY more fun than the a**backwards way my peers & i grew up. i fantasize now and i'm not wasting anymore time trying to pin another label on myself...that's up to her, not me.

[simonisthebest]

there's alot of dude who are not attracted to Men,but still love to take that dick by a TS,

i dont know how to call them :yayo: i guess gettin fucked by a tranny make it more acceptable for people who are attracted to girl on the first place & want to taste "what it feel like" to receive

ther's alot of top TS right now in Paris, they be fuckin theses married guys:yayo:

[nysprod]

there's alot of dude who are not attracted to Men,but still love to take that dick by a TS,

i dont know how to call them :yayo: i guess gettin fucked by a tranny make it more acceptable for people who are attracted to girl on the first place & want to taste "what it feel like" to receive

ther's alot of top TS right now in Paris, they be fuckin theses married guys:yayo:

You should do a lot more posting you are funny lol

[clevelandswabbie]

after thinking about the topic again...yeah what the heck...some trans started out, "they will say as gay boys." okay, that's a lifestyle and the orientation. maybe it's that "gay" is a label, for convenience, and not like saying that "i'm like subscribing to couple sites" or "on the phone". to me, it's a difference who i'm w/. if i'm gay does that mean i should "want to" with everybody who's also gay? couple gay friends disagree w/that interpretation. lovers don't want their partners messin' around...and so, the politically correct stance from michigan is "be honest". so i'm turned on by the 25 yr old transwoman who lives in the next block. i told her so...when we hook up, i'll post it here.

this is a great topic...

[SammiValentine]

I can assure you it is a culture shock for trans who didnt start out in the batty-fastlane, when you find out, well realise the place your accepted or safe "dressed" (early days transition) is in gaybars... so off you go. now that was gay!!! men kissing men!! dressed up as sailors and shit. ooooooo yes that was deffo a 11/10 on the bentometre....

[dderek123]

http://i.imgur.com/j1ziDMk.gif

[red-cyberman]

who cares

[RallyCola]

in 100 years from now, after we have had a gay president, a woman president, a muslim president and a blind transsexual eskimo president with a limp and psoriasis, will we as a society care about such labels?

[bluesoul]

in 100 years from now, after we have had a gay president, a woman president, a muslim president and a blind transsexual eskimo president with a limp and psoriasis, will we as a society care about such labels?

of course. we have a black president now and we still have race problems don't we?

the issues about labels is going nowhere as long as humans are still around

[Telemaque]

Hi, I'm new around here too. I've been reading HA for a little while now, but I don't think I posted before.

I enjoyed reading this thread, as some comments really made me laugh (I'm glad I got used to the sense of humor around here, unlike the OP), but above all I find it fascinating to see how many different opinions there are on the subject of what's gay or not gay :) If people gathered on this forum by a common interest have such different views, it makes you wonder how many different opinions there are on the subject out there... No wonder this is a subject that divides people so much.

Anyway, I can relate to some of the OP's confusion, as I am new to all of this too and still a bit unsure of what I want. Luckily I do not care much about labels and stuff, so that's one thing I don't have to worry about, but it's certainly disconcerting going through those changes. I hope to explore this new corner of my sexuality soon (exciting times!), and hopefully experienced people here can help guide a noob like through some of this stuff :)

[clevelandswabbie]

yeah...i am too...it's what she wanted to know?

[robertlouis]

If you enjoy being topped by guys, strapon-ggs or tgirls, passable or otherwise, there's likely to be at least just the tiniest element of gayness involved.

Now, can we move on? Whose round is it?

[clevelandswabbie]

i'm saying...i live near the Big House (largest FOOTBALL stadium in USA)...guys i dunno' who or what (wtf?) staring @ my behind all day long...so's here's Afro & her gig (Dingaling?)...know what? she likes me "como soy"...as i am. it's mutual...

maybe the neighborhood is gay...that's something money doesn't buy...

[sukumvit boy]

Welcome Telemaque , you've cum to the right place to explore . Enjoy the ride!

[rax123]

No. it doesnt make you gay. If I'm with a lady who is a top. like any other lady i'm with I want to make sure she's pleased (because its a two way street) and if she wants to top me I'm fine with it. and if its a girl i'm really into damn well you know i'm gonna love it.

[Ben]

Hi, new here. So please share your opinions. Its 2014 here. So am i gay if im bottom with m2f preop ts lady?

Don't. Worry. About. It -- :)

[Jamie French]

It's a pretty weak move to come to a tranny forum and ask these kinds of questions. They obviously value other people's opinion as a means of validation so why not man up and do the brave thing... Ask your Denny's waitress the same question. Ask your brother. As the guy in front of you in line at 7-11. Ask a police officer, dock worker, dentist, cousin, etc. Don't ask who you think would be a sympathetic audience... pussy.

[bluesoul]

It's a pretty weak move to come to a tranny forum and ask these kinds of questions. They obviously value other people's opinion as a means of validation so why not man up and do the brave thing... Ask your Denny's waitress the same question. Ask your brother. As the guy in front of you in line at 7-11. Ask a police officer, dock worker, dentist, cousin, etc. Don't ask who you think would be a sympathetic audience... pussy.

^^^ absolutely this.

[nysprod]

It's a pretty weak move to come to a tranny forum and ask these kinds of questions...so why not man up and do the brave thing...pussy.

Things are looking pretty bleak indeed when a tranny tells you to man up lmao

[Rivz]

^ haha

[Ben in LA]

Things are looking pretty bleak indeed when a tranny tells you to man up lmao

Going in my signature :Bowdown:

[nysprod]

It's a pretty weak move to come to a tranny forum and ask these kinds of questions...why not man up and do the brave thing...pussy.


Things are looking pretty bleak indeed when a tranny tells you to man up lmao


Going in my signature :Bowdown:


Lmfao

[STARTUP999]

It's a pretty weak move to come to a tranny forum and ask these kinds of questions. They obviously value other people's opinion as a means of validation so why not man up and do the brave thing... Ask your Denny's waitress the same question. Ask your brother. As the guy in front of you in line at 7-11. Ask a police officer, dock worker, dentist, cousin, etc. Don't ask who you think would be a sympathetic audience... pussy.

I would think an on line community like this would be a good place to ask those questions. Lots more experiece here than at Denny's unless your talking about the one in the 6100 block of Sunset Blvd. in Hollywood (or is the West Hollywood I can never remember) but they prob. have some insight.

Maybe someone can fill me in on why this site should not be a "sympathetic audience" to someone trying to understand (or validate) their attraction/ curiosity or interest in the TG world. Its not like its going to take too much attention from the porn.

Most of the cops I worked with wouldn't grasp it and would not speak about it if they did. But then I work in South East LA maybe the cops Hollywood or San Fran. woud be more in touch with those issues.

[dderek123]

http://i.imgur.com/spzTkOD.jpg

MMMMMmmm

[clevelandswabbie]

Maybe someone can fill me in on why this site should not be a "sympathetic audience" to someone trying to understand (or validate) their attraction/ curiosity or interest in the TG world. Its not like its going to take too much attention from the porn.

i'd like to say thanks for feedback on this post...sorry it was a bit distracting; STARTUP999 is gracious w/indulgence. all i'm saying is when i'm living alone, there aren't many places where people would talk about this topic...well, imho, it all helped me! coming out isn't simple...i go blind w/some manly people w/balconies & surprises. i was @ 7...my first encounter approached me. it was good. i think i'm more committed, now. i'll be reading the posts.

[Jamie French]

Mind if I call you Willfully Ignorant?

Well Will, it's pretty darn simple. Nobody here wants to think of themselves as gay in any way shape or form... therefor they are sympathetic to the OPs quest for heterosexual validation. Ask the OP's question here and you'll get the answer you wanted to hear before you even flipped your computer on. Ask the average man on the street and wind up eating a self inflicted bullet by days end.

Now you know something new.


I would think an on line community like this would be a good place to ask those questions. Lots more experiece here than at Denny's unless your talking about the one in the 6100 block of Sunset Blvd. in Hollywood (or is the West Hollywood I can never remember) but they prob. have some insight.

Maybe someone can fill me in on why this site should not be a "sympathetic audience" to someone trying to understand (or validate) their attraction/ curiosity or interest in the TG world. Its not like its going to take too much attention from the porn.

Most of the cops I worked with wouldn't grasp it and would not speak about it if they did. But then I work in South East LA maybe the cops Hollywood or San Fran. woud be more in touch with those issues.

[dderek123]

http://i.imgur.com/J1hinVB.gif

[Rusty Eldora]

I think the important question is "Am i happy if I bottom for a really horny cute sexy passable transsexual woman"

The short answer Yes

The long answer Yes, I am very happy to be topped by a hot tgirl.


What was the OP's question anyway.

[STARTUP999]

Mind if I call you Willfully Ignorant?

Well Will, it's pretty darn simple. Nobody here wants to think of themselves as gay in any way shape or form... therefor they are sympathetic to the OPs quest for heterosexual validation. Ask the OP's question here and you'll get the answer you wanted to hear before you even flipped your computer on. Ask the average man on the street and wind up eating a self inflicted bullet by days end.

Now you know something new.

Jamie,
Where is all this bitterness coming from?

"Well Will, it's pretty darn simple. Nobody here wants to think of themselves as gay in any way shape or form.." Your exactly right!!

You presumably have had several years to work out these issues and committed yourself to being the person you want to be. Many are not as secure as you, have a loving relationship with a partner that "gets it or have the admiration (validation?) of adoring fans.

I am now very comfortable with my sexuality because life experience and reading including this forum, educated me.

TG girls know better than anyone how our culture treats people who don't fit in. I would hope that would equip you to be kind to people who are not as savvy.

[Jamie French]

Not dudes. Dudes don't get a pass. Dudes who have enough free time and unrestricted internet access to waste time on sites like these get enough brakes in life by virtue of simply existing.

I spit on people with non-issues. The nerve. You're dick's favorite flavor confuses you and meanwhile children are starving and being sold. Some woman is literally having every bone in her face broken by her husband, an old man was turned away and just got done freezing to death in front of a McDonalds and a million other actual tragedies, issues and concerns... Fuck your easily solved, self important, dude problems.




Jamie,
Where is all this bitterness coming from?

"Well Will, it's pretty darn simple. Nobody here wants to think of themselves as gay in any way shape or form.." Your exactly right!!

You presumably have had several years to work out these issues and committed yourself to being the person you want to be. Many are not as secure as you, have a loving relationship with a partner that "gets it or have the admiration (validation?) of adoring fans.

I am now very comfortable with my sexuality because life experience and reading including this forum, educated me.

TG girls know better than anyone how our culture treats people who don't fit in. I would hope that would equip you to be kind to people who are not as savvy.

[Ben]

Mike Wallace - "The Homosexuals" (1967, Recap Version) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AXAOT_swIE)

[Ben]

Jamie writes: "Nobody here wants to think of themselves as gay in any way shape or form..."
Is this true????
I think my avatar explicates my leanings -- ha ha! :)

[Jamie French]

You know the type I'm talking about you brave little soldier you.


Jamie writes: "Nobody here wants to think of themselves as gay in any way shape or form..."
Is this true????
I think my avatar explicates my leanings -- ha ha! :)

[Deimos]

I've already said my piece on this topic...

5216654617090.mp4

well..... that was uhh... educational... and arousing lol

[STARTUP999]

Not dudes. Dudes don't get a pass. Dudes... ...get enough brakes in life by virtue of simply existing...

I spit on people with non-issues. Fuck your easily solved, self important, dude problems.

Jamie, I think my two semesters of psychology in Jr. College qualify me to suggest there may be some underlying issues going on inside that pretty head.

Please don't bottle this up let us know how you really feel.

[EvaCassini]

I saw Silence of the Lambs...so that TOTALLY makes me qualified to be an FBI agent on a case trying to catch a serial killer with help from a serial killer.

[STARTUP999]

Well I was too modest to mention that while I am not a psychiatrist I actually played one on TV ("NSA Los Angeles" ) so there is that too.

Only a couple of my lines made final cut but I did get to "nod in a knowing and sympathetic manner" and it did get qualify me for my SAG card.

So clearly you can see I know what I am talking about.

[EvaCassini]

Clearly...Just as I have all the qualifications to be a Jew in Germany in the 1940s because I was the lead in an Anne Frank play when I was in Highschool.

Being qualified, that makes me an Honorary Jew who does many Jewy things for Israel and also I can be a Rabbi too, if I so choose. ( Even if I am a tranny...SHHH, Don't tell Yahweh! )

[Prospero]

It's odd how poison leeches into any thread that features the dynamic duo. just saying.

[Trinity-Belle]

Haha - this subject comes up so often - it always makes me laugh!

No label required.

"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law"
(Aleister Crowley)

If you really want to hang a label on yourself, then it is quite simple.

If you are a man who gets sexually aroused by other men, but not by women, then you are gay.
If you are a woman who gets sexually aroused by other women, but not by men, then you are gay.
If you are only sexually attracted to the opposite gendar, then you are straight
If you find yourself aroused by both men and women then you are bi.

T-girls are women - a man who is attracted to t-girls but not to men is straight. Whether he is top or bottom is irrelevant. Plenty of straight men like having things up their bums... no shame in that.

And on the subject of shame... This is the 21st century... we should be past all of this by now... what if you are gay? So what? You say it as though it were something you should be ashamed of? Why? If you are gay, then you are gay! It's no biggie in 2014 - the closet it pretty tiny these days, and a fairly lonely place too (except in premiership football (soccer) that is).

Why are you concerned about whether or not you are "gay"? Do you think it is a "bad" thing?

Just don't even worry about it.... just do what you do and be who you are and stop worrying.

Life is far easier and much happier that way :)

xxx

[Prospero]

You are on the money trinity.

[Northof60]

Hi, new here. So please share your opinions. Its 2014 here. So am i gay if im bottom with m2f preop ts lady?

Why? Because you feel the people here are somehow qualified to be diagnosing your sexual orientation? Why worry about it. Just do whatever floats yer boat, makes you happy and don't give a fuck about all of society's idiotic labels for people.

[trish]

am i gay if im bottom with m2f preop ts lady? A rose by any other name would smell as sweet.

[STARTUP999]

Why? Because you feel the people here are somehow qualified to be diagnosing your sexual orientation? Why worry about it. Just do whatever floats yer boat, makes you happy and don't give a fuck about all of society's idiotic labels for people.

This sums it up perfectly.

I think you should have this comment archived so every time the question comes up (and we know it will) that this answer be posted and save a lot of angst for those who have strong opinions on the matter.

[STARTUP999]

Haha - this subject comes up so often - it always makes me laugh!

No label required.

"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law"
(Aleister Crowley)

If you really want to hang a label on yourself, then it is quite simple.

If you are a man who gets sexually aroused by other men, but not by women, then you are gay.
If you are a woman who gets sexually aroused by other women, but not by men, then you are gay.
If you are only sexually attracted to the opposite gendar, then you are straight
If you find yourself aroused by both men and women then you are bi.

T-girls are women - a man who is attracted to t-girls but not to men is straight. Whether he is top or bottom is irrelevant. Plenty of straight men like having things up their bums... no shame in that.

And on the subject of shame... This is the 21st century... we should be past all of this by now... what if you are gay? So what? You say it as though it were something you should be ashamed of? Why? If you are gay, then you are gay! It's no biggie in 2014 - the closet it pretty tiny these days, and a fairly lonely place too (except in premiership football (soccer) that is).

Why are you concerned about whether or not you are "gay"? Do you think it is a "bad" thing?

Just don't even worry about it.... just do what you do and be who you are and stop worrying.

Life is far easier and much happier that way :)

xxx

Also very good.
Maybe this one archived and recycled as needed too.

[simonisthebest]

Haha - this subject comes up so often - it always makes me laugh!

If you really want to hang a label on yourself, then it is quite simple.

I

T-girls are women - a man who is attracted to t-girls but not to men is straight. Whether he is top or bottom is irrelevant. Plenty of straight men like having things up their bums... no shame in that.
[/i].


xxx
attracted by the feminity off a shemale ,but still take dick by them :yayo:all i see is a man in denial , who see transwomen as a opportunity to refuse his true identity

& by callin them Women you make it feel like it's right to take a dick by them for a so called Straight men.....when its not

tranny are not "Women" we need to stop with theses words...let's call them the way they supposed to be called ,except the ones who are post-op

[runningdownthatdream]

Based on this and the other shit you've posted, better duck.....the banner hammer is liskely on the way.

[broncofan]

tranny are not "Women" we need to stop with theses words...let's call them the way they supposed to be called ,except the ones who are post-op
You're a dipshit.

[simonisthebest]

because i said the true , well happy to be one:yayo:

yall people are in denial ,the extreme love yall got for them ,make you believe they are. when they are not
i consider them as tranny simple as that..& last time i checked its was not a insult...even for the industry ,the performers ..& movie directors.....since when we supposed to call them women ? cause they look like One ? nah i dont agree....

& i dont care about a banner hamer BS...im not insultin anyone, .