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TSPornFan
01-02-2014, 03:52 AM
I've been a member at many different Grooby sites for the hardcore scenes. The hardcore scenes have been very short for the past year in a half. They are 18 minutes or less.

The scenes are way too short. There isn't enough time to enjoy watching a girl in a particular position. Foreplay is barely in scenes. Blowjobs are too short. Positions are too short. It's rushed.

Sometimes a girl is doing one position for a 1/3 of the scene. That forces everything else to be super short. Domino Presley's recent hardcore scene from Shemale Pornstar is an example of this. Domino has a fine ass and she did cowgirl for less than a minute. Are you serious? She has one of the finest asses in porn and you only shoot her in cowgirl for less than a minute. Come On Man!

I want to sit back and enjoy watching a girl suck a dick or get fucked in a particular position. A scene doesn't need to be an hour long. It just needs to be long enough to enjoy every position in the scene.

SXFX
01-02-2014, 03:56 AM
maybe it has to do something with how people are viewing their porn now?
Most now utilize their cellphones so maybe this is due to medium which is dictating the format?
thoughts?

TSPornFan
01-02-2014, 04:09 AM
maybe it has to do something with how people are viewing their porn now?
Most now utilize their cellphones so maybe this is due to medium which is dictating the format?
thoughts?

I don't think this is related to cellphone use. Some companies shorten the original scene's length for cellphones. However, the original scene is longer online on a computer or DVD.

algebra1900
01-02-2014, 04:14 AM
Exactly, I mean I don't even want to say what I would pay to see these scenes uncut and unedited. I don't really know how much they shoot on the set, I don't make porn or anything, but I know that just seeing some real interaction would be amazing. I would even love to see some nice scenarios acted out. I would personally sacrifice the frequency of updates to see an increase in video length, hardcore length, or set designs. I think there are so many gorgeous TGirls and just like the Brazilian movies are getting kind of played out to me. That is actually why I like a ton of Wendy Summers' content because she has some hilarious scenarios. I mean that update she just had where she has sex with herself from the past, I mean so hot. So funny, at one point she even says, "fucking myself from the future...damn, I mean the past!" - made the scene that much better.

tsmirandameadows
01-02-2014, 06:10 AM
I don't really know how much they shoot on the set, I don't make porn or anything, but I know that just seeing some real interaction would be amazing.

I don't take part in the editing process, but after comparing the finished product of my videos with what I remember filming, I would say 85-90% of what is filmed makes it into the final cut. I could be totally off -- I'm just going off of my recollection -- but generally speaking the videos go quite fast, generally only taking 30-90 minutes to film, and furthermore about half of that filming time is spent adjusting lighting, performers getting hard again after a pause, shifting scenes, or things of that nature.

And if you like interaction, you should check out my recent Shemale Pornstar vid: I'm a dirty-talking champ. :)

algebra1900
01-02-2014, 07:30 AM
I don't take part in the editing process, but after comparing the finished product of my videos with what I remember filming, I would say 85-90% of what is filmed makes it into the final cut. I could be totally off -- I'm just going off of my recollection -- but generally speaking the videos go quite fast, generally only taking 30-90 minutes to film, and furthermore about half of that filming time is spent adjusting lighting, performers getting hard again after a pause, shifting scenes, or things of that nature.

And if you like interaction, you should check out my recent Shemale Pornstar vid: I'm a dirty-talking champ. :)

Why thank you, I just checked it out and from the photos it appears you did an excellent job! I am surprised that so much makes it into the final cut, I suppose they are extremely efficient about what they want to shoot. I don't really know the price of equipment, overhead, cost of girls, lighting, but do you have a rough estimate of what it might cost per hour of shooting time? With a simple, one girl, one guy scene? I am just an absolute finatic about movies in all forms and I really feel porn is ready to be revolutionized and bringing back intimate settings, if that is at all possible. Getting out of the hotel rooms, back to back to back and building some of your own sets. I mean I know enough out of work carpenters that something could get put together in a snap!

I mean I have even thought about hiring makeup on a set for an extra cost because you see some of the outfits and styles these makeup videos on youtube are like, and I couldn't imagine having a porn scene with some girls who just went through a couple hours of makeup before the shoot, oh God that would be so AWESOME!

Ben in LA
01-02-2014, 08:05 AM
And if you like interaction, you should check out my recent Shemale Pornstar vid: I'm a dirty-talking champ. :)

I'm so glad you're moving to the City of Angels...:Bowdown:

tsmirandameadows
01-02-2014, 08:38 AM
I'm so glad you're moving to the City of Angels...:Bowdown:

I arrive in town tomorrow night. :)

Jamie French
01-02-2014, 01:23 PM
I'm a full time producer of my own content, but more to the point I'm a photographer and video editor for Grooby, the company in question. Throw in being a model for said company and you can see that I'm thoroughly qualified to answer your questions:

Price (approx):

For a hardcore scene? 800 for the girl, 300 for the guy about 500-600 for the cameraman/director, (they are the same person generally) about 100 for the hotel and another 100 bucks for the editor.

So let's see... about two grand for one hardcore scene. That's at its cheapest as there are out of pocket expenses for food, gas, sometimes a makeup lady is called in, most times girls just do their own. Sometimes blood test money needs to be fronted, sometimes a equipment breaks down so someone's wallet has to be pried open... but about 2 grand is a safe, round estimate for an HC scene.

One HC scene.

The back to back hotel locations? Easy. Grooby porn is shot on location all over the world. If it were only shot in the (small) studio at headquarters over in Burbank, CA. there would hardly be any content to speak of. Trans models are spread out all the world and it makes a lot more sense to shoot 'satellite' style with various photographers in all sorts of locations. Hence hotels. The model drives in from West Shitsburg, the photographer drives in from East Armpit Falls and they both meet up at the Super 8 off of 45 in Houston to try to get the thing shot before 3pm cause the kids are getting outta school and the photographer has custody this week.

That's the way it works. It's just people doing things the way normal people do things.

Unfortunately, you're carpenter friends will remain unemployed by this slice of the porn industry.

I'm fortunate in that I can shoot models out of my home... (look for the sets on Shemaleyum, etc. with the Aubry Hepburn posters everywhere) but this generally isn't the case and so economics dictate the flavor of the shoot. Fans have come to expect a high turnout on a weekly basis so something has to give. If Grooby were a boutique operation, you might get the kind of things you were looking for more often, but those things would come at a premium. You might pay the premium but there wouldn't be enough of you to sustain the kind of business that make Grooby a powerhouse in the niche and a safe and reliable entry point for literally any girl you've become a fan of in this niche. We ALL get our start here.

Of yeah... then there are the dudes. There are like 5 dudes who work in the niche. I shot Stefani Special a few moths back with her real life boyfriend. The passion was real, the sex was true, the customers... complained. So that's a whole other hang up that keeps things pretty much the way they are. Gotta get those guys out to different places or wait for certain girls to get to LA... it can be a mess. Things have to be streamlined.

Hope that answers some stuff for ya.


Why thank you, I just checked it out and from the photos it appears you did an excellent job! I am surprised that so much makes it into the final cut, I suppose they are extremely efficient about what they want to shoot. I don't really know the price of equipment, overhead, cost of girls, lighting, but do you have a rough estimate of what it might cost per hour of shooting time? With a simple, one girl, one guy scene? I am just an absolute finatic about movies in all forms and I really feel porn is ready to be revolutionized and bringing back intimate settings, if that is at all possible. Getting out of the hotel rooms, back to back to back and building some of your own sets. I mean I know enough out of work carpenters that something could get put together in a snap!

I mean I have even thought about hiring makeup on a set for an extra cost because you see some of the outfits and styles these makeup videos on youtube are like, and I couldn't imagine having a porn scene with some girls who just went through a couple hours of makeup before the shoot, oh God that would be so AWESOME!

GroobySteven
01-02-2014, 01:45 PM
I'm fortunate in that I can shoot models out of my home... (look for the sets on Shemaleyum, etc. with the Aubry Hepburn posters everywhere) but this generally isn't the case and so economics dictate the flavor of the shoot. Fans have come to expect a high turnout on a weekly basis so something has to give. If Grooby were a boutique operation, you might get the kind of things you were looking for more often, but those things would come at a premium. You might pay the premium but there wouldn't be enough of you to sustain the kind of business that make Grooby a powerhouse in the niche and a safe and reliable entry point for literally any girl you've become a fan of in this niche. We ALL get our start here.

Of yeah... then there are the dudes. There are like 5 dudes who work in the niche. I shot Stefani Special a few moths back with her real life boyfriend. The passion was real, the sex was true, the customers... complained. So that's a whole other hang up that keeps things pretty much the way they are. Gotta get those guys out to different places or wait for certain girls to get to LA... it can be a mess. Things have to be streamlined.

Hope that answers some stuff for ya.


Pretty close but a lot of the photographers work from their own house/studio : Tony Vee, Buddy Wood, Jack Flash, Kevin Dong, Blackula, Omar Wax, Lucia Matthews all shoot from home unless traveling.

We actually do class ourselves as "boutique" though - and our sites are a bit more expensive than the more generic ones which is what people pay for.

As to video lengths. We aim for 22-25 mins but often feel it's dragging out some of it, so look to get a good scene regardless of length of scene. I'll look at some of the scenes. Didn't you just post this same thing a few months ago Franky?

algebra1900
01-02-2014, 01:59 PM
I'm a full time producer of my own content, but more to the point I'm a photographer and video editor for Grooby, the company in question. Throw in being a model for said company and you can see that I'm thoroughly qualified to answer your questions:

Price (approx):

For a hardcore scene? 800 for the girl, 300 for the guy about 500-600 for the cameraman/director, (they are the same person generally) about 100 for the hotel and another 100 bucks for the editor.

So let's see... about two grand for one hardcore scene. That's at its cheapest as there are out of pocket expenses for food, gas, sometimes a makeup lady is called in, most times girls just do their own. Sometimes blood test money needs to be fronted, sometimes a equipment breaks down so someone's wallet has to be pried open... but about 2 grand is a safe, round estimate for an HC scene.

One HC scene.

The back to back hotel locations? Easy. Grooby porn is shot on location all over the world. If it were only shot in the (small) studio at headquarters over in Burbank, CA. there would hardly be any content to speak of. Trans models are spread out all the world and it makes a lot more sense to shoot 'satellite' style with various photographers in all sorts of locations. Hence hotels. The model drives in from West Shitsburg, the photographer drives in from East Armpit Falls and they both meet up at the Super 8 off of 45 in Houston to try to get the thing shot before 3pm cause the kids are getting outta school and the photographer has custody this week.

That's the way it works. It's just people doing things the way normal people do things.

Unfortunately, you're carpenter friends will remain unemployed by this slice of the porn industry.

I'm fortunate in that I can shoot models out of my home... (look for the sets on Shemaleyum, etc. with the Aubry Hepburn posters everywhere) but this generally isn't the case and so economics dictate the flavor of the shoot. Fans have come to expect a high turnout on a weekly basis so something has to give. If Grooby were a boutique operation, you might get the kind of things you were looking for more often, but those things would come at a premium. You might pay the premium but there wouldn't be enough of you to sustain the kind of business that make Grooby a powerhouse in the niche and a safe and reliable entry point for literally any girl you've become a fan of in this niche. We ALL get our start here.

Of yeah... then there are the dudes. There are like 5 dudes who work in the niche. I shot Stefani Special a few moths back with her real life boyfriend. The passion was real, the sex was true, the customers... complained. So that's a whole other hang up that keeps things pretty much the way they are. Gotta get those guys out to different places or wait for certain girls to get to LA... it can be a mess. Things have to be streamlined.

Hope that answers some stuff for ya.

This is some good news! I am glad the price fell in line with what I was expecting. Let's call it $3,000 a scene just to be safe, I find that quite affordable. Also that makes sense about satellite locations being the most convenient for all parties. I see it kind of like acting I suppose, if you want to be a star you need to move to LA. Living in Canada is going to make it hard to break into the movie business.

Fans have become quite demanding, weekly turnout on content, which I don't think is unreasonable. I think it is just how much content in the weekly release we're talking about here. Haha, I definitely didn't expect to support the woodworking industry with porn shoots, but I do feel if they can spend 100 million on 47 Ronin with Keanu Reeves, then planning out a few sets and getting them built would be a nice investment. I am just waiting for porn to take that next step, before the production costs were so high most of the studios were able to leverage better contracts. Now with the ability to basically shoot yourself, or at the very least cut editing and shooting costs, I was hoping to see a shift in creativity. Exactly like the project you are working on at the moment.

Streamlined is a great word, and I do feel that masks for the men would correct a lot of the talent hate, haha. Nothing Gimptastic, but a nice covering of the face will enhance any performance. I do have a better picture though of the restraints you're facing and trying to maintain subscriptions while providing lots of fresh new content. However, I absolutely know in my heart of hearts, that people are yearning for that connection you feel when watching amateur content. I am also still really interested in a unique spin on what Jesse was doing, where she would bang out her fans. I mean, what a wonderful woman, but imagine if you could pay for that service but have it shot like your own personal porno that you could watch for life. I would drop $5,000 to make that happen!

algebra1900
01-02-2014, 02:00 PM
Pretty close but a lot of the photographers work from their own house/studio : Tony Vee, Buddy Wood, Jack Flash, Kevin Dong, Blackula, Omar Wax, Lucia Matthews all shoot from home unless traveling.

We actually do class ourselves as "boutique" though - and our sites are a bit more expensive than the more generic ones which is what people pay for.

As to video lengths. We aim for 22-25 mins but often feel it's dragging out some of it, so look to get a good scene regardless of length of scene. I'll look at some of the scenes. Didn't you just post this same thing a few months ago Franky?

I doubt if you were getting head for 20 minutes you would feel like it's "dragging out", lol.

Jamie French
01-02-2014, 02:08 PM
20 minutes of head can ABSOLUTELY feel like dragging out.

If you want to know the reality behind the fantasy of porn your first lesson is not to confuse the fantasy with reality of porn.

As for your other thing... it's cost me over 20 thousand dollars to do the thing I'm working on and I probably have another 5 grand in future expenses as the damned thing drags on. There is a reason big budget productions aren't the norm.

The majority of dudes don't care thus it's not necessary. My good stuff only looks good because modern times have made technical issues inexpensive. But the learning curve for high quality never diminished to match the low price of production and the will to do good things was never instilled in higher numbers among today's producers just because the cameras got cheaper.


I doubt if you were getting head for 20 minutes you would feel like it's "dragging out", lol.

TSPornFan
01-02-2014, 10:45 PM
I'm a full time producer of my own content, but more to the point I'm a photographer and video editor for Grooby, the company in question. Throw in being a model for said company and you can see that I'm thoroughly qualified to answer your questions:

Price (approx):

For a hardcore scene? 800 for the girl, 300 for the guy about 500-600 for the cameraman/director, (they are the same person generally) about 100 for the hotel and another 100 bucks for the editor.

So let's see... about two grand for one hardcore scene. That's at its cheapest as there are out of pocket expenses for food, gas, sometimes a makeup lady is called in, most times girls just do their own. Sometimes blood test money needs to be fronted, sometimes a equipment breaks down so someone's wallet has to be pried open... but about 2 grand is a safe, round estimate for an HC scene.

One HC scene.

The back to back hotel locations? Easy. Grooby porn is shot on location all over the world. If it were only shot in the (small) studio at headquarters over in Burbank, CA. there would hardly be any content to speak of. Trans models are spread out all the world and it makes a lot more sense to shoot 'satellite' style with various photographers in all sorts of locations. Hence hotels. The model drives in from West Shitsburg, the photographer drives in from East Armpit Falls and they both meet up at the Super 8 off of 45 in Houston to try to get the thing shot before 3pm cause the kids are getting outta school and the photographer has custody this week.

That's the way it works. It's just people doing things the way normal people do things.

Unfortunately, you're carpenter friends will remain unemployed by this slice of the porn industry.

I'm fortunate in that I can shoot models out of my home... (look for the sets on Shemaleyum, etc. with the Aubry Hepburn posters everywhere) but this generally isn't the case and so economics dictate the flavor of the shoot. Fans have come to expect a high turnout on a weekly basis so something has to give. If Grooby were a boutique operation, you might get the kind of things you were looking for more often, but those things would come at a premium. You might pay the premium but there wouldn't be enough of you to sustain the kind of business that make Grooby a powerhouse in the niche and a safe and reliable entry point for literally any girl you've become a fan of in this niche. We ALL get our start here.

Of yeah... then there are the dudes. There are like 5 dudes who work in the niche. I shot Stefani Special a few moths back with her real life boyfriend. The passion was real, the sex was true, the customers... complained. So that's a whole other hang up that keeps things pretty much the way they are. Gotta get those guys out to different places or wait for certain girls to get to LA... it can be a mess. Things have to be streamlined.

Hope that answers some stuff for ya.

It doesn't answer why Grooby's hardcore scenes are so short.


Pretty close but a lot of the photographers work from their own house/studio : Tony Vee, Buddy Wood, Jack Flash, Kevin Dong, Blackula, Omar Wax, Lucia Matthews all shoot from home unless traveling.

We actually do class ourselves as "boutique" though - and our sites are a bit more expensive than the more generic ones which is what people pay for.

As to video lengths. We aim for 22-25 mins but often feel it's dragging out some of it, so look to get a good scene regardless of length of scene. I'll look at some of the scenes. Didn't you just post this same thing a few months ago Franky?

May you please look into this!? I'll use Shemale Pornstar as an example. 3 of its last 14 scenes actually meet your standard length of 22-25 minutes. http://shemalepornstar.com/vod/

22-25 minutes is a good standard. Anything less appears to be rushed due to some positions being very long. Then there are times when there aren't enough positions.

Look at Quinn's new Shemale XXX hardcore scene. It was released today. It's 18 minutes. She barely sucked the guy's dick. There were only three positions; doggy, reverse cowgirl, and missionary. Doggy lasted so long that reverse cowgirl was rushed and quickly switched back to doggy. It ended with missionary lasting a few minutes.

I was very disappointed to see Audrey Kate's parody scene so short. A parody scene is a special scene for the viewers especially the series' fans. People have higher expectations for a parody. It is so rare to see one in Shemale porn.


20 minutes of head can ABSOLUTELY feel like dragging out.

If you want to know the reality behind the fantasy of porn your first lesson is not to confuse the fantasy with reality of porn.

As for your other thing... it's cost me over 20 thousand dollars to do the thing I'm working on and I probably have another 5 grand in future expenses as the damned thing drags on. There is a reason big budget productions aren't the norm.

The majority of dudes don't care thus it's not necessary. My good stuff only looks good because modern times have made technical issues inexpensive. But the learning curve for high quality never diminished to match the low price of production and the will to do good things was never instilled in higher numbers among today's producers just because the cameras got cheaper.

I'm not expecting a women go suck dick for 20 straight minutes. I do expect a blowjob to last at least 3 to 5 minutes. Every position should be at least 3 minutes. Sometimes I notice that positions in Grooby's scenes last for last than 1 or 2 minutes.

Thank Jamie and Seanchai for taking the time to talk about the subject. :)

LilyRox
01-02-2014, 10:56 PM
I don't watch Shemale porn so I haven't really seen their stuff, but 18 mins is always more than plenty for me.

GroobySteven
01-02-2014, 11:11 PM
I'll look into that as it does seem too short to me.

Kevin Dong
01-02-2014, 11:44 PM
It doesn't answer why Grooby's hardcore scenes are so short.



May you please look into this!? I'll use Shemale Pornstar as an example. 3 of its last 14 scenes actually meet your standard length of 22-25 minutes. http://shemalepornstar.com/vod/

22-25 minutes is a good standard. Anything less appears to be rushed due to some positions being very long. Then there are times when there aren't enough positions.

Look at Quinn's new Shemale XXX hardcore scene. It was released today. It's 18 minutes. She barely sucked the guy's dick. There were only three positions; doggy, reverse cowgirl, and missionary. Doggy lasted so long that reverse cowgirl was rushed and quickly switched back to doggy. It ended with missionary lasting a few minutes.

I was very disappointed to see Audrey Kate's parody scene so short. A parody scene is a special scene for the viewers especially the series' fans. People have higher expectations for a parody. It is so rare to see one in Shemale porn.



I'm not expecting a women go suck dick for 20 straight minutes. I do expect a blowjob to last at least 3 to 5 minutes. Every position should be at least 3 minutes. Sometimes I notice that positions in Grooby's scenes last for last than 1 or 2 minutes.

Thank Jamie and Seanchai for taking the time to talk about the subject. :)

You should check out CANTG Franklin. I think you'll find my hardcores are just right. I'd be curious to hear your commentary.

TSPornFan
01-03-2014, 12:36 AM
You should check out CANTG Franklin. I think you'll find my hardcores are just right. I'd be curious to hear your commentary.

I haven't been able to join the site yet. I need to get a job to pay for the membership. :( Finding work has been so hard after graduating.

algebra1900
01-03-2014, 01:48 AM
20 minutes of head can ABSOLUTELY feel like dragging out.

If you want to know the reality behind the fantasy of porn your first lesson is not to confuse the fantasy with reality of porn.

As for your other thing... it's cost me over 20 thousand dollars to do the thing I'm working on and I probably have another 5 grand in future expenses as the damned thing drags on. There is a reason big budget productions aren't the norm.

The majority of dudes don't care thus it's not necessary. My good stuff only looks good because modern times have made technical issues inexpensive. But the learning curve for high quality never diminished to match the low price of production and the will to do good things was never instilled in higher numbers among today's producers just because the cameras got cheaper.

Well I will openly admit I've never had 20 minutes of head so I will have to take your word for it. I definitely don't want to cross the line from fantasy into reality, the fantasy is absolutely what sells porn. However how many women watch porn? How does a romance novel written for women read, versus erotic stories written for men? There are very different triggers of arousal between the genders, which I am sure you know. Also the majority of fans of tgirls are submissive men. Which is why I wish certain scenarios were emphasized more, and certain dialog emphasized more. Not only to have the arousal through visual stimulation, but the arousal through being able to more easily project into the characters. Which is why I think some of the hottest scenes are setup as teacher/student, coach/player, guard/prisoner, because they are automatically dominant/submissive through social conditioning.

Without looking at the numbers I am not sure how many customers you could potentially reach, but you're telling me 3,000 people wouldn't buy your movie at $10 a pop? Now mind you that is breaking even, but hell you got to start somewhere! How many Tgirl lovers are there across the world, who spend $10 tipping in a room daily? I am just ready for that next level porn, that porn that makes me laugh, pulls me in, I literally jerk off twice during the flick and STILL FINISH THE MOVIE! Haha, the last time this happened to me was with Striptease! Oh Demi Moore, you so hot!

algebra1900
01-03-2014, 01:54 AM
It doesn't answer why Grooby's hardcore scenes are so short.



May you please look into this!? I'll use Shemale Pornstar as an example. 3 of its last 14 scenes actually meet your standard length of 22-25 minutes. http://shemalepornstar.com/vod/

22-25 minutes is a good standard. Anything less appears to be rushed due to some positions being very long. Then there are times when there aren't enough positions.

Look at Quinn's new Shemale XXX hardcore scene. It was released today. It's 18 minutes. She barely sucked the guy's dick. There were only three positions; doggy, reverse cowgirl, and missionary. Doggy lasted so long that reverse cowgirl was rushed and quickly switched back to doggy. It ended with missionary lasting a few minutes.

I was very disappointed to see Audrey Kate's parody scene so short. A parody scene is a special scene for the viewers especially the series' fans. People have higher expectations for a parody. It is so rare to see one in Shemale porn.



I'm not expecting a women go suck dick for 20 straight minutes. I do expect a blowjob to last at least 3 to 5 minutes. Every position should be at least 3 minutes. Sometimes I notice that positions in Grooby's scenes last for last than 1 or 2 minutes.

Thank Jamie and Seanchai for taking the time to talk about the subject. :)

Haha, I think that comment was referring to my outlandishly inaccurate joke. I agree, I just want to see the progression. They meet, they greet, they warm up to each other, they touch each other, they run fingers through hair, they kiss, they are getting hot and heavy. Why do clothes come off so fast? Why no hand up skirts and rubbing for a bit first? I just want to see progression basically. I don't like, *rips clothes off, bends over, doggy 20 minutes, cumshot, we're out*

EvaCassini
01-03-2014, 02:00 AM
Haha, I think that comment was referring to my outlandishly inaccurate joke. I agree, I just want to see the progression. They meet, they greet, they warm up to each other, they touch each other, they run fingers through hair, they kiss, they are getting hot and heavy. Why do clothes come off so fast? Why no hand up skirts and rubbing for a bit first? I just want to see progression basically. I don't like, *rips clothes off, bends over, doggy 20 minutes, cumshot, we're out*


Well a clear example of this you mentioned of whats preferable at least to you and Franklin...is my ShemalePornstar.com hardcore with Giovanni.


On the bottom of this page...
http://www.shemalepornstar.com/tour/updates/2013/index-066.php?direct=1

algebra1900
01-03-2014, 02:04 AM
Well a clear example of this you mentioned of whats preferable at least to you and Franklin...is my ShemalePornstar.com hardcore with Giovanni.


On the bottom of this page...
http://www.shemalepornstar.com/tour/updates/2013/index-066.php?direct=1

Don't you know my tastes coincide with everyone on the planet? ;-D

Wendy Summers
01-03-2014, 02:22 AM
I haven't been able to join the site yet. I need to get a job to pay for the membership. :( Finding work has been so hard after graduating.

Franklin -- what's your degree in?

SXFX
01-03-2014, 02:27 AM
Well....better short than looped like they do in the straight porn...it's kind of funny how they do that in straight porn...loop loop loop!

EvaCassini
01-03-2014, 02:42 AM
Don't you know my tastes coincide with everyone on the planet? ;-D

opp lol had a brain fart :p

algebra1900
01-03-2014, 02:47 AM
opp lol had a brain fart :p

I completely ignored your suggestion though, but since I didn't have that scene, I had to go to my scene of you and WOLF. Free set on black-tgirls, nice!

I am curious though, do you masturbate to your own scenes?

Wendy Summers
01-03-2014, 02:50 AM
I completely ignored your suggestion though, but since I didn't have that scene, I had to go to my scene of you and WOLF. Free set on black-tgirls, nice!

I am curious though, do you masturbate to your own scenes?

Between liking my time travel set and this question to Eva, I'm guessing what you would do to your own porn ;)

algebra1900
01-03-2014, 02:55 AM
Between liking my time travel set and this question to Eva, I'm guessing what you would do to your own porn ;)

Hahahaha, I was totally about to bring that up again too! I really thought that scene was ingenious. A little bit of role playing and it automatically became an all time favorite of mine. The overall relaxed feel, and the fun vibe with two terrifically attractive women was thoroughly entertaining on a sexual and intellectual level.

TSPornFan
01-03-2014, 03:14 AM
Franklin -- what's your degree in?

Political Science and my secondary major is Sociology.

algebra1900
01-03-2014, 03:18 AM
Political Science and my secondary major is Sociology.

There should be an opening in HR for you, lol.

Kevin Dong
01-03-2014, 03:19 AM
Political Science and my secondary major is Sociology.

Sociology was my degree too. I finished 2 years ago exactly. Good luck with the job hunt. Nobody really knows what sociologists do, and to be honest I don't either. I think political science is in the same vein.

TSPornFan
01-03-2014, 03:37 AM
Sociology was my degree too. I finished 2 years ago exactly. Good luck with the job hunt. Nobody really knows what sociologists do, and to be honest I don't either. I think political science is in the same vein.

My family has been pressuring me to join the Air Force and I refuse to do it. The military isn't for everyone including me.

pantybulge69
01-03-2014, 03:38 AM
Also the majority of fans of tgirls are submissive men. Which is why I wish certain scenarios were emphasized more, and certain dialog emphasized more. Not only to have the arousal through visual stimulation, but the arousal through being able to more easily project into the characters.

Which is why I think some of the hottest scenes are setup as teacher/student, coach/player, guard/prisoner, because they are automatically dominant/submissive through social conditioning.


i also enjoy character role play that i find appealing and think it's a great
build up. But aside from Kink's (TS Seductions) and perhaps Devil Films,
i cannot think of anyone else that consistently draws up that kind of
clever,appealing role play (when it comes to tranny porn)

nysprod
01-03-2014, 03:41 AM
Sociology was my degree too. I finished 2 years ago exactly. Good luck with the job hunt. Nobody really knows what sociologists do, and to be honest I don't either. I think political science is in the same vein.


They become photographers and amateur porn critics lmao

algebra1900
01-03-2014, 03:47 AM
i also enjoy character role play that i find appealing and think it's a great
build up. But aside from Kink's (TS Seductions) and perhaps Devil Films,
i cannot think of anyone else that consistently draws up that kind of
clever,appealing role play (when it comes to tranny porn)

Yeah TSSeduction has so many absolutely amazing scenes, and a lot of interesting twists. I really like that niche, but I am not a huge bondage or latex person. I don't mind it at all, but I would love that same type of scenarios, but role playing with some regular clothes and different locations.

EvaCassini
01-03-2014, 04:41 AM
I completely ignored your suggestion though, but since I didn't have that scene, I had to go to my scene of you and WOLF. Free set on black-tgirls, nice!

I am curious though, do you masturbate to your own scenes?

I didn't do a scene with Wolf....

So far, only Smith and Giovanni

And...not really. I jack off in my head in happiness that I have a new set up...lol

TSPornFan
01-03-2014, 05:20 AM
I didn't do a scene with Wolf....

So far, only Smith and Giovanni

And...not really. I jack off in my head in happiness that I have a new set up...lol

I want to see you in an IR scene as a naughty nurse. Too bad Tomcat ignored my request at TS Seduction. I tried. I really did. :( http://forum.kink.com/message/181828;jsessionid=D442B77A24480840D697B2DF61C25758 #181828

algebra1900
01-03-2014, 05:26 AM
I didn't do a scene with Wolf....

So far, only Smith and Giovanni

And...not really. I jack off in my head in happiness that I have a new set up...lol

Odd, I compared the sets and it seems it might be Giovanni, lol, but they literally have it as "Eva Cassini & Wolf" on the black-tgirls bonus sets. Perhaps it was an error when transcribing names of talent?

christianxxx
01-03-2014, 05:31 AM
Franklin, sometimes the scenes are going to be shorter because the director needs a hard cock to do the fucking. If the guy isn't a pro sometimes maintaining an erection is not easy. So the director tries to get as long as can from the guy. Also, its hard to give an amateur guy instructions on how to make a good scene....you end up losing the passion and the guy starts thinking about his erection and there it goes.

And the directors can't exactly throw the guy out and call someone else, so he HAS to get a finished scene. So he takes what the performer gives him.

Also, some directors aren't around professional male performers on a regular basis. So they aren't watching a guy who knows he has to get to 25-30 minutes of unedited footage that gets cut down to 22-25 minutes. The director isn't exactly watching the clock all the time, he is trying to feature the girl getting fucked.

These are the reasons why I would guess some scenes are shorter than others. Just my two cents.

TSPornFan
01-03-2014, 06:11 AM
Franklin, sometimes the scenes are going to be shorter because the director needs a hard cock to do the fucking. If the guy isn't a pro sometimes maintaining an erection is not easy. So the director tries to get as long as can from the guy. Also, its hard to give an amateur guy instructions on how to make a good scene....you end up losing the passion and the guy starts thinking about his erection and there it goes.

And the directors can't exactly throw the guy out and call someone else, so he HAS to get a finished scene. So he takes what the performer gives him.

Also, some directors aren't around professional male performers on a regular basis. So they aren't watching a guy who knows he has to get to 25-30 minutes of unedited footage that gets cut down to 22-25 minutes. The director isn't exactly watching the clock all the time, he is trying to feature the girl getting fucked.

These are the reasons why I would guess some scenes are shorter than others. Just my two cents.

Thanks for your insight! Now I understand why scenes can be short. I realize that none of the short scenes feature top male talent like yourself, Smith, and Wolf. I learn something new everyday. :)

nysprod
01-03-2014, 06:24 AM
See, I'm like the exact opposite, I like to see short clips and constantly switch between scenes...the whole world is shifting to 140 characters and 7 second vine videos, it's how people look at things now.

algebra1900
01-03-2014, 06:32 AM
See, I'm like the exact opposite, I like to see short clips and constantly switch between scenes...the whole world is shifting to 140 characters and 7 second vine videos, it's how people look at things now.

I'm sorry, but silence will never go out of fashion.

nysprod
01-03-2014, 06:36 AM
I'm sorry, but silence will never go out of fashion.

Not sure I follow where you're going with this.

EvaCassini
01-03-2014, 06:39 AM
I want to see you in an IR scene as a naughty nurse. Too bad Tomcat ignored my request at TS Seduction. I tried. I really did. :( http://forum.kink.com/message/181828;jsessionid=D442B77A24480840D697B2DF61C25758 #181828

IR?

Thanks for the mentions but I haven't heard anything from Kink or Tomcat in months. Last shoot I did was in May or June with Katie St. Ives and then the next day with Nina Lopez.

TSPornFan
01-03-2014, 06:41 AM
IR?

Thanks for the mentions but I haven't heard anything from Kink or Tomcat in months. Last shoot I did was in May or June with Katie St. Ives and then the next day with Nina Lopez.

IR=Interracial

EvaCassini
01-03-2014, 06:46 AM
IR=Interracial

oh. I am not picky. I'll shoot with anyone who is fit, hung, clean ( hygiene ), and clean ( disease free, and can prove it. )

nysprod
01-03-2014, 06:48 AM
Damn I thought that meant Inter Rectum my bad lmao

algebra1900
01-03-2014, 07:00 AM
oh. I am not picky. I'll shoot with anyone who is fit, hung, clean ( hygiene ), and clean ( disease free, and can prove it. )

Interesting you didn't say, "I'll shoot with anyone who isn't an asshole."

EvaCassini
01-03-2014, 07:06 AM
Interesting you didn't say, "I'll shoot with anyone who isn't an asshole."

well, that really is a given...

if a dood is going to have some attitude problems, of course I won't shoot with him.