Jenna Jameson of TS Porn?

[stan.smith]

Sure there are legends like Christy canyon and countless others but most can agree that Jenna Jameson was the one who revolutionized porn as did Jordan with basketball. so in those terms who would u regard as the Jenna or Jordan of TS porn?
Im going for Vaniity on this one. Although i dont have any first hand knowledge of the industry i feel that she could be it. and i dont wanna take any credit away from girls like Barbie woods, Daniella foxx, vicki etc. but ill have to say the 1st word that pops up when u think of ts porn is vanity just as jenna jameson and michael jordan are the 1st words for porn and basketball.

[WendyWilliams]

Nah it would be Gia Darling.

Jenna is known for taking her popularity and making an EMPIRE for herself. She made "Jenna" a household name as a BRAND. Vaniity though popular has never taken that popularity and done what Gia Darling did. Owning her own brand, toy line, signature DVD line, and using that to become one of the most successful Independent TS of all time.

[lordworm]

Gia Darling would be correct. She also has her own brand of video series, akin to Jenna.

[FIRSTTIMER]

I would have said Vaniity as well because of her popularity and who I also consider the Queen Bee.

But I have to agree with you Wendy. Gia has capitalized on her popularity in more ways than one and making it a very successful to her benefit. And it has been well deserved.

[GroobySteven]

Gia Darling ... but Gia is a better ambassador for porn than Jenna.

[Kevin Dong]

Gia Darling ... but Gia is a better ambassador for porn than Jenna.

and she can afford to pay for her own champagne

[goatman]

I like to say that when Jenna was hired/became big, that was the beginning of the end for "Mainstream Porn" as we know it..., because it sent a signal(like a flare) to all the girls working the clubs that "Hey, this is a way to make $$!!" The stampede ensued & the quality went downhill from there(which is one of the factors that got me into alternative porn--& ultimately TS Porn...more artistically sound) Anyway, Vaniity & Yasmin Lee.

[mike043]

kimber james?

[youngblood61]

I would agree on Gia. What about Allanah Starr?

[Ben in LA]

Gia and Vaniity.

[WendyWilliams]

NO disrespect to Vaniity as she is a friend and Ive helped her with business stuff throughout the years but she is in NO way close to Gia Darling. If its a "popularity" or "beauty" contest then yea we can make that argument but Jenna J became a household name due to branding and business! Gia Darling showed many ladies like myself how to be Independent PornStars! Much the same way that Joanna Jet did!

Don't get me wrong Vaniity is an extremely popular model but outside of our genre there are so many others who the "straight" Industry recognize before they do her and that is what Jenna did, reaching across adult boundaries!

Original poster said "revolutionized porn".......... I think its hard in our niche to pinpoint one TS who did that when we can say Joey Silvera had more to do with that then a particular model.

Good topic!

[whatugotiwant]

Allanah star Def is the game changer

[lordworm]

You know what, Joanna Jet would be a contender too.

[youngblood61]

You know what, Joanna Jet would be a contender too.I agree, Joanna's been doing her own thing for a while. Still going strong.

[Ben in LA]

You know what, Joanna Jet would be a contender too.


I agree, Joanna's been doing her own thing for a while. Still going strong.

Full agreement here.

[spidernose]

Not crazy about Gia but I would have to agree. Gia.

[boner]

Not to take anything away from anyone else mentioned here but Gia has arguably the most impressive body of work in the transexual genre.

[stan.smith]

Wendy ur replies were spot on. U said exactly the things that was the reason for starting this thread. who created an EMPIRE is basically the true question here. never knew she had her own brand, toys etc. thats def jenna and jordan status who became a household name. I was leaning also towards barbie woods or allanah starr but like i said i dont have any 1st hand knowledege of the industry so dont know hence asking here lol.

[stan.smith]

You know what, Joanna Jet would be a contender too.

not wrong at all but if ur reasoning is because she has been in the industry for so long and still going strong i would have to pose the arguement that its not the question of whose been in the biz the longest its more like wendy said. who has become a household name.

[lordworm]

She's got her own brand of dvds, her own site, and directs all her stuff. That's kinda like Jameson.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Gia Darling for sure

[youngblood61]

not wrong at all but if ur reasoning is because she has been in the industry for so long and still going strong i would have to pose the arguement that its not the question of whose been in the biz the longest its more like wendy said. who has become a household name.In this biz Joanna Jet is definitely a Household name.:)

[Ben in LA]

She's got her own brand of dvds, her own site, and directs all her stuff. That's kinda like Jameson.

Except Jameson was like the prodigal daughter renouncing the industry and is now just getting back into it. Don't get me wrong; before her retirement she put out some great shit...but later in life bad mouthing the industry that made you loses points with me. I don't recall Gia ever doing that...

As for my co-choice of Vaniity, when I bring up Tgirl porn to (who I believe are) non-consistent viewers they seem to rattle off the same two names the most: Gia Darling and Vaniity. Vaniity might not have her own brand, but she does still have that name recognition...and will so for a long time.

[TSPornFan]

I think a lot of recent girls had the potential to be the Jenna Jameson of TS porn. Bailey Jay, Domino Presley, Jane Marie, etc had that potential. Jane retired too early to have that legacy. Bailey Jay doesn't do normal hardcore scenes so she's out of the question. Domino Presley slowed down after her boob job.

[EvaCassini]

I ain't quitting. I fucking love my fucking career.

[joannajet]

Hello,

This thread has made for interesting reading and it is rewarding to find myself included in the discussions.

From my perspective, Jenna Jameson's contribution to the industry was to be utterly unique in the way that she achieved both commercial success and recognition.
Therefore, it should not be about whether a TS pornstar is comparable to Jenna but rather whether a TS pornstar is as unique in her impact/influence/success in her industry as Jenna was.

Whilst Vaniity, Gia and I have had the longest presence in the industry, with Wendy Williams only a few years behind, each one of us has achieved a level of success that is without precedent for all but also unique to each.

Whilst Jenna Jameson is considered as unique in her success in the mainstream porn industry, the TS porn industry has more than one "Star" that has achieved success in their own unique way.

So, whilst Jenna Jameson, even during her downfall, remains the flagship of success for the mainstream adult industry, for this forum to choose to debate which TS "Star" is most worthy of association is not nothing short of abhorrent.

I consider Vaniity as probably the best TS performer of all time, Gia Darling changed industry perception as both a performer and producer, I fought TS bigotry against individuals, corporations and governments and survived, and Wendy Williams redefined TS adult industry marketing.

So, who gives a shit about Jenna Jameson when, not only the ones I have just mentioned, but so many other have also made such a difference in TS porn?

Kisses,

Joanna
xxx

[johnb]

Good post Joanna

[Ben in LA]

Thank you, Joanna! Merry Christmas!

[WendyWilliams]

Hello,

This thread has made for interesting reading and it is rewarding to find myself included in the discussions.

From my perspective, Jenna Jameson's contribution to the industry was to be utterly unique in the way that she achieved both commercial success and recognition.
Therefore, it should not be about whether a TS pornstar is comparable to Jenna but rather whether a TS pornstar is as unique in her impact/influence/success in her industry as Jenna was.

Whilst Vaniity, Gia and I have had the longest presence in the industry, with Wendy Williams only a few years behind, each one of us has achieved a level of success that is without precedent for all but also unique to each.

Whilst Jenna Jameson is considered as unique in her success in the mainstream porn industry, the TS porn industry has more than one "Star" that has achieved success in their own unique way.

So, whilst Jenna Jameson, even during her downfall, remains the flagship of success for the mainstream adult industry, for this forum to choose to debate which TS "Star" is most worthy of association is not nothing short of abhorrent.

I consider Vaniity as probably the best TS performer of all time, Gia Darling changed industry perception as both a performer and producer, I fought TS bigotry against individuals, corporations and governments and survived, and Wendy Williams redefined TS adult industry marketing.

So, who gives a shit about Jenna Jameson when, not only the ones I have just mentioned, but so many other have also made such a difference in TS porn?

Kisses,

Joanna
xxx



YEP She just SUMMED it up! I have always said I learned from the best, JOANNA!

[youngblood61]

Well said Joanna. Happy Holidays!!!!