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TSPornFan
12-21-2013, 03:56 AM
I was randomly surprised to see this just pop up on Twitter. Kim Bella said she retired from porn. This really sucks because she barely has any hardcore content. People thought she was going to be huge. However, she hit the road like Jane Marie. https://twitter.com/BeautifullVega/status/414210238892359680

FreddieGomez
12-21-2013, 04:03 AM
Who wants to be known as a porn star for the rest of their lives?
They all wash up eventually at some point anyway.
Better to get out sooner than later.

Dino Velvet
12-21-2013, 04:06 AM
Hope she still bites the pillow IRL as I'm scouring the Backpage.

Dino Velvet
12-21-2013, 04:10 AM
Better to get out sooner than later.

Especially when they get to the point they're more fun to laugh at than jerk off to.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/1/10789/1281804-jennajamesonhaggard.jpg

maxpower
12-21-2013, 04:43 AM
Especially when they get to the point they're more fun to laugh at than jerk off to.


Yeah, that's fuckin' scary. She looks like a leather saddlebag. She's gonna have a nice case of skin cancer down the road.

BellaBellucci
12-21-2013, 04:45 AM
It's tough out there for a bitch. Kim's a beautiful girl with a big heart, though. I'm sure it'll be onward and upward for her.

~BB~

pimpdog
12-21-2013, 04:47 AM
She probably found some captain save a ho, if so, who knows how long that will last, she might be back.

Ben in LA
12-21-2013, 05:19 AM
She probably found some captain save a ho, if so, who knows how long that will last, she might be back.
I wouldn't call him Captain Save-a-Ho; he seems to be a pretty cool guy.

She had actually retired awhile back; she's focused on getting SRS. Pretty sure she'll still make appearances here and there though.

stan.smith
12-21-2013, 06:52 AM
whos the girl in the pic? is that jenna jameson?!?!?!

RadiusDark
12-21-2013, 07:09 AM
I wouldn't call him Captain Save-a-Ho; he seems to be a pretty cool guy.

She had actually retired awhile back; she's focused on getting SRS. Pretty sure she'll still make appearances here and there though.

Good for her.

bluesoul
12-21-2013, 07:18 AM
I wouldn't call him Captain Save-a-Ho; he seems to be a pretty cool guy.

but aren't captain save-a-ho's supposed to be cool. i mean, they're saving ho's after all aren't they?

maxpower
12-21-2013, 08:27 AM
whos the girl in the pic? is that jenna jameson?!?!?!


Yep.

tsmirandameadows
12-21-2013, 09:03 AM
I was randomly surprised to see this just pop up on Twitter. Kim Bella said she retired from porn. This really sucks because she barely has any hardcore content. People thought she was going to be huge. However, she hit the road like Jane Marie. https://twitter.com/BeautifullVega/status/414210238892359680

Meh. Porn is a tough gig. Shooting is fun and easy, though often tiring physically, as is fan interaction and promotion -- you mean everyone tells me how beautiful I am just for trying to promote my content? AWESOME! -- but realizing you make your living through sex isn't exactly easy. Yeah, fuck society, who cares about obsolete sexual mores, etc. but it's still a tough position to be in when you're the one living it. Likewise, you have this niggling worry in the back of your mind that the longer you stay in sex work, the harder it's going to be to ever get out. I'm almost certainly in this for the long haul, but it would be a lie to say I haven't wondered/worried whether I'm making the right choice, and I certainly won't ever blame a girl for getting out early, even if she is hot and didn't shoot many hardcores. :)

EvaCassini
12-21-2013, 09:19 AM
niggling...hehehe thats a cute funny word. :)

I love my job. Best job out of all the ones I have held. ;)

christianxxx
12-21-2013, 11:39 AM
let's be honest. if you take the average TS and you add up her yearly salary - filming is going to be about 10-20 percent at most and escorting makes up the rest.

That being said, it doesn't take a genius to know that the more films you do, the more fans and people know who you are and ostensibly want to book you for a private.

Additionally, LA is a city that has a very high cost of living AND there are probably more TS and more beautiful TS than any other city in the US besides maybe NYC. Which means stiff competition for privates.

So 80-90 percent of TS girls that are in porn don't live in Los Angeles. So you have to add the expense of getting to LA, staying in LA, in order to film.

Kim Bella is a perfect 10. Flawless and beautiful. She lives in Texas not exactly right next to California. She knows the math. She knows that traveling to LA to do porn isn't exactly fun. She has enough movies and pictures out there on the internet to make her insanely popular to men who have a fantasy about being with a TS and have the money to pay to make that fantasy a reality.

Surely after reading this, you can understand why many girls don't stick around in porn.

All that being said, I think everyone should have a much greater respect for the Jamie French, Foxxy, Wendy Williams, Vaniity, and a few others who have the endurance to keep doing scenes, privates, their own sites, webcam, and make a living working hard through multiple revenue streams for years.

nysprod
12-21-2013, 11:46 AM
She was in NJ a few weeks ago near the airport after she appeared at Tranny Strip...a friend of mine scored her for $200.

Ben in LA
12-21-2013, 02:30 PM
Christian just always seems to spit true knowledge. Props, brah!

Miranda, besides the obvious, I love your brain as well.

youngblood61
12-21-2013, 02:37 PM
let's be honest. if you take the average TS and you add up her yearly salary - filming is going to be about 10-20 percent at most and escorting makes up the rest.

That being said, it doesn't take a genius to know that the more films you do, the more fans and people know who you are and ostensibly want to book you for a private.

Additionally, LA is a city that has a very high cost of living AND there are probably more TS and more beautiful TS than any other city in the US besides maybe NYC. Which means stiff competition for privates.

So 80-90 percent of TS girls that are in porn don't live in Los Angeles. So you have to add the expense of getting to LA, staying in LA, in order to film.

Kim Bella is a perfect 10. Flawless and beautiful. She lives in Texas not exactly right next to California. She knows the math. She knows that traveling to LA to do porn isn't exactly fun. She has enough movies and pictures out there on the internet to make her insanely popular to men who have a fantasy about being with a TS and have the money to pay to make that fantasy a reality.

Surely after reading this, you can understand why many girls don't stick around in porn.

All that being said, I think everyone should have a much greater respect for the Jamie French, Foxxy, Wendy Williams, Vaniity, and a few others who have the endurance to keep doing scenes, privates, their own sites, webcam, and make a living working hard through multiple revenue streams for years.Well said,

youngblood61
12-21-2013, 02:42 PM
Good luck to Kim Bella.

TSPornFan
12-21-2013, 09:05 PM
let's be honest. if you take the average TS and you add up her yearly salary - filming is going to be about 10-20 percent at most and escorting makes up the rest.

That being said, it doesn't take a genius to know that the more films you do, the more fans and people know who you are and ostensibly want to book you for a private.

Additionally, LA is a city that has a very high cost of living AND there are probably more TS and more beautiful TS than any other city in the US besides maybe NYC. Which means stiff competition for privates.

So 80-90 percent of TS girls that are in porn don't live in Los Angeles. So you have to add the expense of getting to LA, staying in LA, in order to film.

Kim Bella is a perfect 10. Flawless and beautiful. She lives in Texas not exactly right next to California. She knows the math. She knows that traveling to LA to do porn isn't exactly fun. She has enough movies and pictures out there on the internet to make her insanely popular to men who have a fantasy about being with a TS and have the money to pay to make that fantasy a reality.

Surely after reading this, you can understand why many girls don't stick around in porn.

All that being said, I think everyone should have a much greater respect for the Jamie French, Foxxy, Wendy Williams, Vaniity, and a few others who have the endurance to keep doing scenes, privates, their own sites, webcam, and make a living working hard through multiple revenue streams for years.

Great insight! Don't some companies pay for travel expenses?

How many scenes and pictures are considered enough to become famous?

Wendy Summers
12-21-2013, 09:40 PM
Great insight! Don't some companies pay for travel expenses?

How many scenes and pictures are considered enough to become famous?

I think that varies from model to model. Jane Marie doing one set was enough to get guys talking about her. Other folks it takes a while until someone says, "damn - she's fine".

Basically the secret is being seen. Not every guy is going to like every model. But the sweet spot is when enough guys that dig the model become aware of her.

amberskyi
12-21-2013, 09:44 PM
She probably found some captain save a ho, if so, who knows how long that will last, she might be back.

why does it have to be that (even tho it does sound like the case)?
i know quite a few girls that have "retired" from sex work to either go to school or just work a normal job.
also i think its wrong to refer to the girls in this industry as hos

youngblood61
12-21-2013, 10:09 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if she came back. Girls have done it before.:)

tsmirandameadows
12-21-2013, 10:30 PM
Great insight! Don't some companies pay for travel expenses?


Only one I know of is Kink.com.

TSPornFan
12-21-2013, 11:01 PM
Only one I know of is Kink.com.

Sadly, they have never shot scenes for girls to only be bottoms. :(

stan.smith
12-21-2013, 11:52 PM
Yep.

is that jenna jameson??!?!?
NO WAYYYY thats crazy. cant believe my eyes

Ben in LA
12-22-2013, 01:05 AM
is that jenna jameson??!?!?
NO WAYYYY thats crazy. cant believe my eyes

Huge change from Blue Movie, Jenna's Built For Speed, and Hell on Heels, huh?

Dino Velvet
12-22-2013, 02:39 AM
Huge change from Blue Movie, Jenna's Built For Speed, and Hell on Heels, huh?

I hear she's making Jenna's Built With Speed.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uLTCoybT65o/RuhjhC4qGeI/AAAAAAAABfM/i6uv2Qqrjj8/s400/Jenna+Jameson+2.jpghttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/_uLTCoybT65o/Ruhily4qGcI/AAAAAAAABe8/ThlXxd9a388/s400/Jenna+Jameson+3.jpg

Females&Shemales
12-22-2013, 03:00 AM
Some of these porn stars don't do enough to make me give a shit when they call it quits.

WendyWilliams
12-22-2013, 03:43 AM
let's be honest. if you take the average TS and you add up her yearly salary - filming is going to be about 10-20 percent at most and escorting makes up the rest.

That being said, it doesn't take a genius to know that the more films you do, the more fans and people know who you are and ostensibly want to book you for a private.

Additionally, LA is a city that has a very high cost of living AND there are probably more TS and more beautiful TS than any other city in the US besides maybe NYC. Which means stiff competition for privates.

So 80-90 percent of TS girls that are in porn don't live in Los Angeles. So you have to add the expense of getting to LA, staying in LA, in order to film.

Kim Bella is a perfect 10. Flawless and beautiful. She lives in Texas not exactly right next to California. She knows the math. She knows that traveling to LA to do porn isn't exactly fun. She has enough movies and pictures out there on the internet to make her insanely popular to men who have a fantasy about being with a TS and have the money to pay to make that fantasy a reality.

Surely after reading this, you can understand why many girls don't stick around in porn.

All that being said, I think everyone should have a much greater respect for the Jamie French, Foxxy, Wendy Williams, Vaniity, and a few others who have the endurance to keep doing scenes, privates, their own sites, webcam, and make a living working hard through multiple revenue streams for years.



WOW not sure Ive ever heard you say a nice word to me unless I was gagging or riding your cock (LOL jk)........

You are right unless you are willing to stretch yourself thin across MANY venues then its hard to keep doing this job. Also its just not possible to be a full time "pornstar"... you have to be an affiliate, camming, some escort not all, blogger, etcc......

After 11 years Im getting to the retiring from on screen stuff point but I love doing the PR, camming and occasional escorting!

Jamie French
12-22-2013, 06:04 AM
As long as tacos cost money, I'll do porn. Those things don't buy themselves.

youngblood61
12-22-2013, 06:18 AM
WOW not sure Ive ever heard you say a nice word to me unless I was gagging or riding your cock (LOL jk)........

You are right unless you are willing to stretch yourself thin across MANY venues then its hard to keep doing this job. Also its just not possible to be a full time "pornstar"... you have to be an affiliate, camming, some escort not all, blogger, etcc......

After 11 years Im getting to the retiring from on screen stuff point but I love doing the PR, camming and occasional escorting!I hope you have a few years left Wendy.

pantybulge69
12-23-2013, 12:33 AM
Sadly, they have never shot scenes for girls to only be bottoms. :(

guess kink decided there's a big demand for aggressive top girls only and ran with it. so far seems to have paid off big time.

pantybulge69
12-23-2013, 02:38 AM
I think that varies from model to model. Jane Marie doing one set was enough to get guys talking about her. Other folks it takes a while until someone says, "damn - she's fine".

Basically the secret is being seen. Not every guy is going to like every model. But the sweet spot is when enough guys that dig the model become aware of her.

I wonder how long is the average career expectancy of a tgirl pornstar.
especially the ones that are NOT mega-stars like yasmin lee, vanity
eva lin,etc.

Deja Vu
12-25-2013, 12:15 AM
why does it have to be that (even tho it does sound like the case)?
i know quite a few girls that have "retired" from sex work to either go to school or just work a normal job.
also i think its wrong to refer to the girls in this industry as hos

well, aren't you in the industry?

youngblood61
12-25-2013, 12:18 AM
Ho is a bit strong.

amberskyi
12-25-2013, 12:30 AM
well, aren't you in the industry?

and? so that gives someone the right to dehumanize me and call me names??

SammiValentine
12-25-2013, 01:45 AM
I wonder how long is the average career expectancy of a tgirl pornstar.
especially the ones that are NOT mega-stars like yasmin lee, vanity
eva lin,etc.

IMO thats a very deep complex answer tbh. its not simple, many many many factors. Lets use me for example ,the simmple fact ive been round since aug 2005 till present day jan 2014nearlylol) .. and I am just little old me.. and here i am, thinking more along the lines of when i should end my career, not when it will end or i will be pushed to end it.

Jamie French
12-25-2013, 03:31 AM
I've been around going on 8 years now and I'm still largely a nobody... though, when you're as hands on as I am in this business you find that porn morphs into all sorts of other outlets so there's always something new to do and porn itself just kinda becomes a catalyst for a whole host of other opportunities and experiences. I couldn't retire from porn any more than I could retire from driving a car... it's total utility for someone like me, not a means to and end or an end in and of itself. For me, It's a completely lateral concept apart from ends and means.


I wonder how long is the average career expectancy of a tgirl pornstar.
especially the ones that are NOT mega-stars like yasmin lee, vanity
eva lin,etc.

Nikka
12-25-2013, 07:53 PM
Who wants to be known as a porn star for the rest of their lives?
They all wash up eventually at some point anyway.
Better to get out sooner than later.

talk for yourself

Ben in LA
12-26-2013, 02:10 AM
I've been around going on 8 years now and I'm still largely a nobody... though, when you're as hands on as I am in this business you find that porn morphs into all sorts of other outlets so there's always something new to do and porn itself just kinda becomes a catalyst for a whole host of other opportunities and experiences. I couldn't retire from porn any more than I could retire from driving a car... it's total utility for someone like me, not a means to and end or an end in and of itself. For me, It's a completely lateral concept apart from ends and means.

Considering your soundtrack, editing, and graphics skills, you're more of a somebody that should be around a LONG time.

RallyCola
12-26-2013, 02:39 AM
as always, i hope her retirement is permanent because she finds happiness in other endeavors but i won't be surprised if she doesn't come back.

that said, she was not that prolific and although quite lovely to look at, there are 100s of other performers that i will turn to for entertainment so i really won't feel the loss to the industry as some other die hard fans.

Ben in LA
12-26-2013, 04:12 AM
Considering your soundtrack, editing, and graphics skills, you're more of a somebody that should be around a LONG time.

Obviously Wendy and Rally don't agree, but you just keep on doing what you're doing. :Bowdown:

buckjohnson
12-28-2013, 08:43 PM
Dont know who Kim Bella is so cant comment on her. But I noticed no commentary on real life consequences of repeated anal sex. IR! The girls I have anal sex with are physicall exhausted after the onec a month encounter, despite all the precautions I take i.e anal sex only after two or three sessions of vagina sex, so she is both mentally and physically in a comfort zone and I am not as hard and anxious/ hyped. Also I try to do anal sex on weekends so the lady is not walking funny down the hallway of her job. Despite all the orecautions, the ladies are sick physically after anal, cant walk, legs useless, on the toilet all day, sleepy all day, etc... i know this is a fantasy site, but if there is this much harm having monthly anal sex, how much harm is done havin dicks in a person ass on the daily?

buckjohnson
12-28-2013, 08:54 PM
Chritian mwntioned some of the ladies who have had longevity. One in oarticular stuns me with her longevity, and to be honest, I dont understand how anyone can stay in the pirn bzness more than a day. The people in porn seem shady, the fans are creepy, the money is funny, the fame is insular, America Puratincal(sp) sex thoughts allows as one poster wrote, think sex workers and performers as "hos"...so besides the haters, the funny money, the health risks, dealing eith the creeps and the peeps, the sex bias and laws, working in the ho bzness sounds like a lot of fun. By the way, Puritans are another reason to hate the British.

tsmirandameadows
12-29-2013, 12:09 AM
Dont know who Kim Bella is so cant comment on her. But I noticed no commentary on real life consequences of repeated anal sex. IR! The girls I have anal sex with are physicall exhausted after the onec a month encounter, despite all the precautions I take i.e anal sex only after two or three sessions of vagina sex, so she is both mentally and physically in a comfort zone and I am not as hard and anxious/ hyped. Also I try to do anal sex on weekends so the lady is not walking funny down the hallway of her job. Despite all the orecautions, the ladies are sick physically after anal, cant walk, legs useless, on the toilet all day, sleepy all day, etc... i know this is a fantasy site, but if there is this much harm having monthly anal sex, how much harm is done havin dicks in a person ass on the daily?

Jeez, what the hell are you doing to these women? lol

I'm physically tired after anal sex, with some full body muscle soreness akin to exercising for the first time after taking a few weeks off, but... I can generally still use my legs alright. :)

EvaCassini
12-29-2013, 12:18 AM
There is no harm in having Butt-fuckery each and every day. Your butt is just a bunch of muscles.

Now if a girl were to take a huge cock that she is not used to, there may be pain and weariness, but to overcome that, one needs to "work out".

By work out, I mean play with yourself constantly and if you have a partner, well then, more power to you. Then you can practice much more with an actual cock.

I get my butt played with at least every other day, and I have no problems, other than like my knee or foot muscle might be sore or brushed, but hey, that's what Tequila and/or Advil are for. :)

Wendy Summers
12-29-2013, 01:02 AM
I wonder how long is the average career expectancy of a tgirl pornstar.
especially the ones that are NOT mega-stars like yasmin lee, vanity
eva lin,etc.

9 months to a year before the producers stop calling and move on to the next face. The reality is: there's very few stars bankable on who they are... newness is what's seen by the major producers as a money generator.

VictoriaVeil
12-29-2013, 01:12 AM
All that being said, I think everyone should have a much greater respect for the Jamie French, Foxxy, Wendy Williams, Vaniity, and a few others who have the endurance to keep doing scenes, privates, their own sites, webcam, and make a living working hard through multiple revenue streams for years.


I like this part... lol

amberskyi
12-29-2013, 03:11 AM
Dont know who Kim Bella is so cant comment on her. But I noticed no commentary on real life consequences of repeated anal sex. IR! The girls I have anal sex with are physicall exhausted after the onec a month encounter, despite all the precautions I take i.e anal sex only after two or three sessions of vagina sex, so she is both mentally and physically in a comfort zone and I am not as hard and anxious/ hyped. Also I try to do anal sex on weekends so the lady is not walking funny down the hallway of her job. Despite all the orecautions, the ladies are sick physically after anal, cant walk, legs useless, on the toilet all day, sleepy all day, etc... i know this is a fantasy site, but if there is this much harm having monthly anal sex, how much harm is done havin dicks in a person ass on the daily?

physically sick after anal sex?
that sounds like something totally unrelated and she should get checked out by a doctor.
anal sex when done properly isnt physically or mentally traumatic.take it from a bottom hun

amberskyi
12-29-2013, 03:12 AM
Chritian mwntioned some of the ladies who have had longevity. One in oarticular stuns me with her longevity, and to be honest, I dont understand how anyone can stay in the pirn bzness more than a day. The people in porn seem shady, the fans are creepy, the money is funny, the fame is insular, America Puratincal(sp) sex thoughts allows as one poster wrote, think sex workers and performers as "hos"...so besides the haters, the funny money, the health risks, dealing eith the creeps and the peeps, the sex bias and laws, working in the ho bzness sounds like a lot of fun. By the way, Puritans are another reason to hate the British.

shhhhhh.....lol

Jamie French
12-29-2013, 04:42 AM
This is the bull shittiest bullshit ever said. I've spent years constantly having ass sex, playing with speculums and working some of the biggest toys on the market directly up and into my ass on a daily basis. There is nothing magical about the butt that makes it any more delicate than any other part of the body. It's a fucking ring of muscle cloaked in a bucket of fat. That's it. If the ass was as easily prone to breakage as people fantasize then the after effects of the average American diet alone would leave every U.S. citizen with their intestines swinging in the wind inside of a year.



Dont know who Kim Bella is so cant comment on her. But I noticed no commentary on real life consequences of repeated anal sex. IR! The girls I have anal sex with are physicall exhausted after the onec a month encounter, despite all the precautions I take i.e anal sex only after two or three sessions of vagina sex, so she is both mentally and physically in a comfort zone and I am not as hard and anxious/ hyped. Also I try to do anal sex on weekends so the lady is not walking funny down the hallway of her job. Despite all the orecautions, the ladies are sick physically after anal, cant walk, legs useless, on the toilet all day, sleepy all day, etc... i know this is a fantasy site, but if there is this much harm having monthly anal sex, how much harm is done havin dicks in a person ass on the daily?

buckjohnson
12-29-2013, 10:55 AM
Jaime you are right most Americans diet are harmful to their intenstines. That said, most American woman are not on the daily implanting objects up their ass. Hell it is hard to get American woman to admit they shit on the daily. Ass fucking on the daily has to be as difficult job as being DV neurologist, or beijg a resident of Texas or Florida or England, or being in charge of keeping my 151 rum in stock at the local bar. Those that escort and get fucked in the ass daily cant be following the reccomadation of the ass dr society.

Tapatio
12-29-2013, 05:28 PM
...working in the ho bzness sounds like a lot of fun.

Agreed.

Jamie French
12-29-2013, 06:29 PM
Sooo... you've met most American women?

Also...

Ass fucking is just ass fucking. What sane person would compare it to being a neurologist?

Also...

I'm a lifelong resident of Texas and it's been just fine for 34 years I've been here.

Also...

What the hell is wrong with your English?

Also...

Why are you making up oddly specific yet completely unfounded assertions anyhow?

Are you a little tiny bit retarded?



Jaime you are right most Americans diet are harmful to their intenstines. That said, most American woman are not on the daily implanting objects up their ass. Hell it is hard to get American woman to admit they shit on the daily. Ass fucking on the daily has to be as difficult job as being DV neurologist, or beijg a resident of Texas or Florida or England, or being in charge of keeping my 151 rum in stock at the local bar. Those that escort and get fucked in the ass daily cant be following the reccomadation of the ass dr society.

broncofan
01-05-2014, 04:27 AM
Ass fucking is just ass fucking. What sane person would compare it to being a neurologist?

I was reading that post and scratching my head. Imagine you're a neurologist and you're thinking about bottoming for the first time. Then you hear someone authoritatively say it's harder than a job whose qualifications include getting a bachelor's with a major in pre-med (with good grades and MCATs), four years of medical school, several years working as an intern at a hospital, then a residency in neurology. I know people in their early thirties who went that route and have not spent a year of their life since kindergarten outside of an educational institution.

I'm guessing there are more ass fuckers than neurologists for a reason:).

Benedict1991
01-05-2014, 10:18 AM
Maybe she make just enough scenes to get good advertising for customers and then get out.

Most porn sex is not very good, lots of starting and stopping and bad positions taken only to facilitate access for camera man's clear shot.

These scenes stay on the internet forever, so customers will see her, google her name, then find if her she is still selling ass.

She think "Ok, I do enough scenes, fans will find me if they want, no more this bad sex."
And she just wait for them to write her or call.

Or maybe she want a quiet life or her family find out she in porn...

looking4TS
01-05-2014, 12:43 PM
In a follow up on Christian's comment on expense for ladies. I'm just curious how much on average do models/pornstars get paid? My educated guess would be $15.000 for a hardcore film and $10.000 for a franks, yum, bobs, etc. solo shoot. I'm into the solo shit and have joined all of them over time. To bad none of these solo sites do it right.

Teydyn
01-05-2014, 02:31 PM
15k?

Really?

Wasnt it more like 500-600 for a Hardcore Scene if they are in the upper Segment of the "in" models?

Benedict1991
01-05-2014, 07:12 PM
In a follow up on Christian's comment on expense for ladies. I'm just curious how much on average do models/pornstars get paid? My educated guess would be $15.000 for a hardcore film and $10.000 for a franks, yum, bobs, etc. solo shoot. I'm into the solo shit and have joined all of them over time. To bad none of these solo sites do it right.

That's not possible. Even the most known pornstar like Lisa Ann only made 2500 for hardcorexxx scene.

GroobySteven
01-05-2014, 07:30 PM
In a follow up on Christian's comment on expense for ladies. I'm just curious how much on average do models/pornstars get paid? My educated guess would be $15.000 for a hardcore film and $10.000 for a franks, yum, bobs, etc. solo shoot. I'm into the solo shit and have joined all of them over time. To bad none of these solo sites do it right.

I'd say that guess has NO eduction in it.
Hardcore most sites/companies might pay $800-$1000 (Kink pays more but expects more). Solos $600.

TS's get paid higher than most models.

Kevin Dong
01-05-2014, 07:40 PM
In a follow up on Christian's comment on expense for ladies. I'm just curious how much on average do models/pornstars get paid? My educated guess would be $15.000 for a hardcore film and $10.000 for a franks, yum, bobs, etc. solo shoot. I'm into the solo shit and have joined all of them over time. To bad none of these solo sites do it right.

i love Hungangels and educated guesses

looking4TS
01-05-2014, 08:44 PM
That's unbelievable considering the revenue generated off the product. Sounds like the producers likes to fuck the ladies as well. What a bunch of evil fucks. Guess they've never herd of trickle down or there definition is what's dripping off your face. Now I can see why all the solo sites put out such a shit product.

Benedict1991
01-05-2014, 08:46 PM
That's unbelievable considering the revenue generated off the product. Sounds like the producers likes to fuck the ladies as well. What a bunch of evil fucks. Guess they've never herd of trickle down or there definition is what's dripping off your face. Now I can see why all the solo sites put out such a shit product.

They are a business, but I think also perhaps you estimate too high a revenue for these products.

GroobySteven
01-05-2014, 08:53 PM
That's unbelievable considering the revenue generated off the product. Sounds like the producers likes to fuck the ladies as well. What a bunch of evil fucks. Guess they've never herd of trickle down or there definition is what's dripping off your face. Now I can see why all the solo sites put out such a shit product.


You're an idiot. You have no idea of business at all and nobody is "evil" or "getting fucked over". Trickle down is keeping as many people employed as possible and as many shoots as can be given a year.

The simple economics of the business speak for themselves and any girl who has tried doing her own site, would understand this.

Wendy Summers
01-05-2014, 09:13 PM
You're an idiot. You have no idea of business at all and nobody is "evil" or "getting fucked over". Trickle down is keeping as many people employed as possible and as many shoots as can be given a year.

The simple economics of the business speak for themselves and any girl who has tried doing her own site, would understand this.

Grooby is making a profit, no doubts, but it's not gangbusters.

They would have far more competition if the pie was that large.

algebra1900
01-05-2014, 11:39 PM
The fact that most girls make their money escorting should tell you something, not just in this niche market, but in all porn. Now why is that? What kind of living would they have without escorting? I mean, $600 a scene. You do one scene a week, $2400 a month? A $12 an hour job would get you that with a whole lot less headache.

GroobySteven
01-05-2014, 11:41 PM
The fact that most girls make their money escorting should tell you something, not just in this niche market, but in all porn. Now why is that? What kind of living would they have without escorting? I mean, $600 a scene. You do one scene a week, $2400 a month? A $12 an hour job would get you that with a whole lot less headache.


$12 an hour job would get you $1920 before taxes for working in menial or dull labour for 40 hours a week.

You need to think before typing. I've got you at the top of my troll list watch.

algebra1900
01-05-2014, 11:48 PM
$12 an hour job would get you $1920 before taxes for working in menial or dull labour for 40 hours a week.

You need to think before typing. I've got you at the top of my troll list watch.

Most jobs offer benefits, did you factor that into your calculations? Now I'm a troll? Lol, that's rich! It is clear you want to keep this forum strictly for the promotion of the girls, and are unwilling to allow any fruitful discussion to occur. So by all means, ban everyone you don't deem acceptable, pat yourself on the back, and you can keep this forum exactly how it is, I'm not worried.

RallyCola
01-05-2014, 11:56 PM
algebra...i don't think you are a troll per se...but you are quite naive if you think $12/hr can sustain ANYONE let alone a woman in transition.

while i always will reject the idea that transwomen are precluded from the workforce and MUST resort to porn/escorting...the fact remains that the act of transition is very expensive and it is an expense that ggirls don't have. that is, transwomen have all the same economic concerns as any other woman with the added expense of surgeries, hormones, therapy sessions, etc. taken together, you have to be insane to think a 12/hr job would sustain the lifestyle.

GroobySteven
01-05-2014, 11:57 PM
Most jobs offer benefits, did you factor that into your calculations? Now I'm a troll? Lol, that's rich! It is clear you want to keep this forum strictly for the promotion of the girls, and are unwilling to allow any fruitful discussion to occur. So by all means, ban everyone you don't deem acceptable, pat yourself on the back, and you can keep this forum exactly how it is, I'm not worried.

Most jobs at that pay level don't offer benefits. You miscalculated in your eagerness to be a smart arse.
You've had 130 posts in 5 days - many of them demeaning. I know you've been here before so it's not surprising that you'd jump straight back into fray.

I don't ban people for meaningful discussion - but I do ban them when they come here with agendas. If you're not worried, pipe down and enjoy the forum instead of typing without thinking.

saifan
01-05-2014, 11:58 PM
Christ, the new year really added some great new posters to the lineup.

GroobySteven
01-06-2014, 12:04 AM
Christ, the new year really added some great new posters to the lineup.

Often old posters under new names.

EvaCassini
01-06-2014, 12:07 AM
The fact that most girls make their money escorting should tell you something, not just in this niche market, but in all porn. Now why is that? What kind of living would they have without escorting? I mean, $600 a scene. You do one scene a week, $2400 a month? A $12 an hour job would get you that with a whole lot less headache.

What headache?

I absolutely understand ones opinion about something they haven't ever done. Everyone loves to speculate. That's just human nature to find patterns and try to put meanings to things.

But. As someone who does live a life of porn. I can honestly tell you, from my personal perspective, that I have no headaches from doing the work I do.

I unequivocally love my career and would not trade it for anything. I do not really escort much as per personal choice, but I do a lot of porn work. I make enough to live stably and I do not have any luxury pursuits. I.E. Material things such as expensive cars, jewelry, games, expensive trinkets, high priced clothes and perfumes, and the like. But that's just me. ( and not everyone is like me, but there are those who are quite similar )

Yes, I do get headaches, but not from my work. I get them from other things such as too much coffee, or had slept oddly.

A lot of girls will have escorting as their primary means of income. But the girls I know who escort, do it because they enjoy the work and the money. Don't get me wrong, I am sure some girls will have the occasional headache from dealing with certain clients. Also a fair amount of girls who do porn on the side, do hold regular jobs. Porn for them is supplemental income.

And to close, I have held many jobs and careers, with wages/salaries ranging from 6.50/hr to 50.00/hr. But I have never cared for such work because of the headaches that comes along with it. Not to mention the lack of freedom and creativity. So to make generalized opinions on a whole group of people without first hand experience and living our lives, is a bit disrespectful because of the ignorance.

No particular offense. Just stating the reality and helping to inform.

algebra1900
01-06-2014, 12:11 AM
Most jobs at that pay level don't offer benefits. You miscalculated in your eagerness to be a smart arse.
You've had 130 posts in 5 days - many of them demeaning. I know you've been here before so it's not surprising that you'd jump straight back into fray.

I don't ban people for meaningful discussion - but I do ban them when they come here with agendas. If you're not worried, pipe down and enjoy the forum instead of typing without thinking.

Benefit Basics
The law requires employers to provide employees with certain benefits. You must:

Give employees time off to vote, serve on a jury and perform military service.
Comply with all workers' compensation requirements.
Withhold FICA taxes from employees' paychecks and pay your own portion of FICA taxes, providing employees with retirement and disability benefits.
Pay state and federal unemployment taxes, thus providing benefits for unemployed workers.
Contribute to state short-term disability programs in states where such programs exist.
Comply with the Federal Family and Medical Leave (FMLA).

I'm not trying to be a smart ass, I'm dead serious. A $12 hour an hour job it seems would leave you with similar pay to porn. Also as someone mentioned TGirls actually get paid more than most models. Now you're saying many of my posts are demeaning, and not only that, but I have TOO MUCH activity on the forum? That is funny. I am enjoying the forum, I suggest you spend less time worrying about what I'm doing and more time focusing on your own work. You say you're all in favor of promoting discussion but the moment someone says or does something you don't like, you White Knight Ban them, like the guy who called that fat woman ugly. What was your reasoning? "These girls have been bullied, and you're on here bullying a fat woman? BAN!" OH trust me, I think plenty, I simply am not going to frame my posts in a way that is kissing your ass.

RallyCola
01-06-2014, 12:15 AM
hey algebra...would you work for $12/hr.

algebra1900
01-06-2014, 12:16 AM
What headache?

I absolutely understand ones opinion about something they haven't ever done. Everyone loves to speculate. That's just human nature to find patterns and try to put meanings to things.

But. As someone who does live a life of porn. I can honestly tell you, from my personal perspective, that I have no headaches from doing the work I do.

I unequivocally love my career and would not trade it for anything. I do not really escort much as per personal choice, but I do a lot of porn work. I make enough to live stably and I do not have any luxury pursuits. I.E. Material things such as expensive cars, jewelry, games, expensive trinkets, high priced clothes and perfumes, and the like. But that's just me. ( and not everyone is like me, but there are those who are quite similar )

Yes, I do get headaches, but not from my work. I get them from other things such as too much coffee, or had slept oddly.

A lot of girls will have escorting as their primary means of income. But the girls I know who escort, do it because they enjoy the work and the money. Don't get me wrong, I am sure some girls will have the occasional headache from dealing with certain clients. Also a fair amount of girls who do porn on the side, do hold regular jobs. Porn for them is supplemental income.

And to close, I have held many jobs and careers, with wages/salaries ranging from 6.50/hr to 50.00/hr. But I have never cared for such work because of the headaches that comes along with it. Not to mention the lack of freedom and creativity. So to make generalized opinions on a whole group of people without first hand experience and living our lives, is a bit disrespectful because of the ignorance.

No particular offense. Just stating the reality and helping to inform.

It isn't an opinion, the pay would be similar in a 40 hour a week job without the risk of death due to working in your field. There are risks to your line of work that don't exist in other lines of work. There is a reason soldiers are given hazard pay when they are in combat zones. You could, God forbid, contract a fatal disease doing porn, or escorting. That is what I call a headache. Disrespectful? No, pointing out that you have no benefits, no healthcare, no protection, no worker's compensation, and no ability to save for your future is called reality. The reality of the business you're in, just saying. I love your work, but I would love for you to be more stable while working. What are you going to do when you're 70 years old and you need massive medical treatments?

algebra1900
01-06-2014, 12:18 AM
hey algebra...would you work for $12/hr.

Of course, I have worked for $12 an hour. You do realize minimum wage in America is $7.25?

RallyCola
01-06-2014, 12:19 AM
Of course, I have worked for $12 an hour. You do realize minimum wage in America is $7.25?

i mean right now...would you quit whatever job you have and work for $12/hr?

GroobySteven
01-06-2014, 12:21 AM
Benefit Basics
The law requires employers to provide employees with certain benefits. You must:

Give employees time off to vote, serve on a jury and perform military service.
Comply with all workers' compensation requirements.
Withhold FICA taxes from employees' paychecks and pay your own portion of FICA taxes, providing employees with retirement and disability benefits.
Pay state and federal unemployment taxes, thus providing benefits for unemployed workers.
Contribute to state short-term disability programs in states where such programs exist.
Comply with the Federal Family and Medical Leave (FMLA).

I'm not trying to be a smart ass, I'm dead serious. A $12 hour an hour job it seems would leave you with similar pay to porn. Also as someone mentioned TGirls actually get paid more than most models. Now you're saying many of my posts are demeaning, and not only that, but I have TOO MUCH activity on the forum? That is funny. I am enjoying the forum, I suggest you spend less time worrying about what I'm doing and more time focusing on your own work. You say you're all in favor of promoting discussion but the moment someone says or does something you don't like, you White Knight Ban them, like the guy who called that fat woman ugly. What was your reasoning? "These girls have been bullied, and you're on here bullying a fat woman? BAN!" OH trust me, I think plenty, I simply am not going to frame my posts in a way that is kissing your ass.

You're still wrong on the money but I can't be arsed explaining why.
If you don't understand why the guy took 30 days off the forum for bullying - then you don't get this place at all.

Why have you came back here under a different name Tommy?

I don't want my ass kissed, people rarely get banned, I'll argue my corner as long as people put across fair points - but you're basically talking out of your arse and I'm calling you on it - your flagging up all wrong coloured flags and I'm not the only one to spot it.

algebra1900
01-06-2014, 12:21 AM
i mean right now...would you quit whatever job you have and work for $12/hr?

What is the work?

RallyCola
01-06-2014, 12:24 AM
nevermind. you are a post whoring troll
http://a398.idata.over-blog.com/2/87/79/27/zit2/Attention_whoring.jpg


back on topic
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-7XZezrm2bl0/UU1h1P0LwbI/AAAAAAAAI4Q/ru_l99D9zFU/s1600/Kim+Bella!+Feb+02,+2013.jpg

crystalsopen
01-06-2014, 12:33 AM
i was reading that post and scratching my head. Imagine you're a neurologist and you're thinking about bottoming for the first time. Then you hear someone authoritatively say it's harder than a job whose qualifications include getting a bachelor's with a major in pre-med (with good grades and mcats), four years of medical school, several years working as an intern at a hospital, then a residency in neurology. I know people in their early thirties who went that route and have not spent a year of their life since kindergarten outside of an educational institution.

I'm guessing there are more ass fuckers than neurologists for a reason:).

rotfl.

crystalsopen
01-06-2014, 12:43 AM
Great insight! Don't some companies pay for travel expenses?

How many scenes and pictures are considered enough to become famous?
What does famous really mean for a TS adult performer? Is 2k fans famous? 5k? 10k? If you add up all my followers on twitter, tumblr and cam sites, I have more followers than the town my Mom grew up in had people. I am not famous; it was (and is) a very small town.

EvaCassini
01-06-2014, 12:44 AM
It isn't an opinion, the pay would be similar in a 40 hour a week job without the risk of death due to working in your field. There are risks to your line of work that don't exist in other lines of work. There is a reason soldiers are given hazard pay when they are in combat zones. You could, God forbid, contract a fatal disease doing porn, or escorting. That is what I call a headache. Disrespectful? No, pointing out that you have no benefits, no healthcare, no protection, no worker's compensation, and no ability to save for your future is called reality. The reality of the business you're in, just saying. I love your work, but I would love for you to be more stable while working. What are you going to do when you're 70 years old and you need massive medical treatments?


No. See this is where you don't understand, because you aren't a tgirl, and the fact that you aren't in porn.

I was in the Navy and dealt with many deadly things on a daily basis. Being in porn, as long as you don't fuck around, you wear condoms, you get tested regularly, and be extremely preventative, safe and health wise, then your chances of getting hurt or contracting a disease is far far less than those who fuck for crack who give no shits.

The "basic benefits" you listed mean nothing to me. I do save for the future, and plan out everything. If I want healthcare, I can get O'Care, but I don't need that because I am a veteran and can go to the VA where I am fully covered.

Oh and the risks I have in my line of work are not in others? I was stationed in Japan while in the Navy and literally got out not 2 months before the Fukushima reactor started melting down.

If I would have stayed in, I would most likely have developed radiation poisoning from the aid given by US Sailors. Last I checked, there are about 70+ sailors who now are highly radioactive and have many types of cancers growing within them. ( Also, the chances of a US citizen getting a deadly disease is much greater for a US Soldier/Sailor/Marine than it is for someone like yourself or any civilian. Because of the "I am immortal" mentality MANY of them have when they go out into the world and fuck around because I know for a fact, that those in the military have just a few things on their mind...Money, Booze, and Pussy/Dick! ) <--- Firsthand experience fact.

So you see, my job's risks are not better or worse than my serving in the US Navy. Yes, there are other girls who don't have the safety nets I have, but they can easily set some up for themselves, as many do. I.E. Saving, O'Care, being safe and preventative as myself, holding menial jobs while doing porn on the side, and many other things.

You can have your opinion. But for you to only truly see one side of the discussion, then your understanding cannot be merited.

Reality.

MrsKellyPierce
01-06-2014, 01:09 AM
Girls come and go..come back...come and go..

algebra1900
01-06-2014, 01:48 AM
You're still wrong on the money but I can't be arsed explaining why.
If you don't understand why the guy took 30 days off the forum for bullying - then you don't get this place at all.

Why have you came back here under a different name Tommy?

I don't want my ass kissed, people rarely get banned, I'll argue my corner as long as people put across fair points - but you're basically talking out of your arse and I'm calling you on it - your flagging up all wrong coloured flags and I'm not the only one to spot it.

Lord, the level of insecurity in this post is almost worthy of my pity. You're not arguing your corner at all. If you don't want to explain why they aren't comparable that is fine, but it would of been a lot easier than throwing this tantrum.


What does famous really mean for a TS adult performer? Is 2k fans famous? 5k? 10k? If you add up all my followers on twitter, tumblr and cam sites, I have more followers than the town my Mom grew up in had people. I am not famous; it was (and is) a very small town.

Being in a Hollywood movie, ALA Yasmin Lee.


No. See this is where you don't understand, because you aren't a tgirl, and the fact that you aren't in porn.

I was in the Navy and dealt with many deadly things on a daily basis. Being in porn, as long as you don't fuck around, you wear condoms, you get tested regularly, and be extremely preventative, safe and health wise, then your chances of getting hurt or contracting a disease is far far less than those who fuck for crack who give no shits.

The "basic benefits" you listed mean nothing to me. I do save for the future, and plan out everything. If I want healthcare, I can get O'Care, but I don't need that because I am a veteran and can go to the VA where I am fully covered.

Oh and the risks I have in my line of work are not in others? I was stationed in Japan while in the Navy and literally got out not 2 months before the Fukushima reactor started melting down.

If I would have stayed in, I would most likely have developed radiation poisoning from the aid given by US Sailors. Last I checked, there are about 70+ sailors who now are highly radioactive and have many types of cancers growing within them. ( Also, the chances of a US citizen getting a deadly disease is much greater for a US Soldier/Sailor/Marine than it is for someone like yourself or any civilian. Because of the "I am immortal" mentality MANY of them have when they go out into the world and fuck around because I know for a fact, that those in the military have just a few things on their mind...Money, Booze, and Pussy/Dick! ) <--- Firsthand experience fact.

So you see, my job's risks are not better or worse than my serving in the US Navy. Yes, there are other girls who don't have the safety nets I have, but they can easily set some up for themselves, as many do. I.E. Saving, O'Care, being safe and preventative as myself, holding menial jobs while doing porn on the side, and many other things.

You can have your opinion. But for you to only truly see one side of the discussion, then your understanding cannot be merited.

Reality.

The point is there is still a chance of it happening, no matter how careful you are in the business. The Navy and Airforce see the least amount of combat out of any of the military branches. Exactly what danger were you in on a daily basis? The point is changing the industry for the better, you might have insurance through your time serving, but that isn't every working girl. The reactor meltdown is irrelevant to the job you were performing. That is just bad timing, it can be argued that being a server admin carries a lot less risk than being in porn, or the military.

I'm not going to argue that soldiers don't spend their time drinking and fucking. You have the possibility of dying in combat, you want to enjoy your days on Earth. I completely understand. The point however is that people in the military get compensated for putting their lives on the line. A lot better compensation than girls in porn. That is my point. We all know the risks of the business, which is why the military gets a certain level of pay and insurance, as you know. I'm saying I would like this for porn, or rather, I would like for prostitution to become legalized and regulated. This isn't really an opinion, these are facts derived from the industry you work in, those risks don't exists in other industries. One of the reasons being the religious foot hold in the United States and the world. Are you telling me that your pay wouldn't significantly increase if prostitution got legalized? TGirls are so rare you could literally charge $3,000 an hour like the girls at the Bunny Ranch do. I still remember an episode of this girl getting paid $5,000 an hour because she was literally one of two black girls there. Now that is rare, but I am sure you might see a call from Eddie Murphy wanting to know whats up!

GroobySteven
01-06-2014, 01:56 AM
Lord, the level of insecurity in this post is almost worthy of my pity. You're not arguing your corner at all. If you don't want to explain why they aren't comparable that is fine, but it would of been a lot easier than throwing this tantrum.


Insecurity has nothing to do with it - the girls IN the industry have argued the corner for me - you're completely wrong.

You haven't answered the question : Why come back under a different name?

You need to answer that.

algebra1900
01-06-2014, 02:18 AM
Insecurity has nothing to do with it - the girls IN the industry have argued the corner for me - you're completely wrong.

You haven't answered the question : Why come back under a different name?

You need to answer that.

I NEED to answer that? Lol, you're so transparent! Please refer to the definition of insecure. I haven't been proven wrong about anything. You have WHITE KNIGHT SYNDROME, it is cool though, I won't hold it against you.

EvaCassini
01-06-2014, 02:22 AM
The point is there is still a chance of it happening, no matter how careful you are in the business. The Navy and Airforce see the least amount of combat out of any of the military branches. Exactly what danger were you in on a daily basis? The point is changing the industry for the better, you might have insurance through your time serving, but that isn't every working girl. The reactor meltdown is irrelevant to the job you were performing. That is just bad timing, it can be argued that being a server admin carries a lot less risk than being in porn, or the military.

I'm not going to argue that soldiers don't spend their time drinking and fucking. You have the possibility of dying in combat, you want to enjoy your days on Earth. I completely understand. The point however is that people in the military get compensated for putting their lives on the line. A lot better compensation than girls in porn. That is my point. We all know the risks of the business, which is why the military gets a certain level of pay and insurance, as you know. I'm saying I would like this for porn, or rather, I would like for prostitution to become legalized and regulated. This isn't really an opinion, these are facts derived from the industry you work in, those risks don't exists in other industries. One of the reasons being the religious foot hold in the United States and the world. Are you telling me that your pay wouldn't significantly increase if prostitution got legalized? TGirls are so rare you could literally charge $3,000 an hour like the girls at the Bunny Ranch do. I still remember an episode of this girl getting paid $5,000 an hour because she was literally one of two black girls there. Now that is rare, but I am sure you might see a call from Eddie Murphy wanting to know whats up!

Have you served in any military force? I very much doubt it. Your assumption that the Navy ( I say Navy because I was in the Navy ) sees no combat is outrageously incorrect and VERY disrespectful.

I was stationed on the USS Fitzgerald DDG 62 Arleigh Burke Class Aegis Guided Missile Destroyer. My ship was apart of 7th Fleet. 7th Fleet, the ONLY Forward deployed fleet in the whole US Navy. We had to deal with everything concerning Russia, North Korea, and China.

A lot of things I can not say because of classified information, but lets just say that in that area...things are not as safe as the news tells you things are.

My ship, the USS Fitzgerald, was and still is the most sophisticated ship.

Doing porn is a choice. Doing escort work, is a choice. Joining the military, is a choice. We all decide what field to pursue.

By the way...The Fukushima incident was and still is completely RELEVANT. The US Navy supplies ships and sailors to areas in need where ever and whenever.

Remember the recent typhoon that destroyed the Philippines? Yes, you guessed it. Most of the aid and relief they got was from the US Navy sending the 7th Fleet Carrier Battlegroup ( 1 carrier ( USS G. Washington ) and a few destroyers and/or the 2 cruisers ) straight down there. Where, I will add, one could easily catch a slew of deadly diseases from just the floating dead bodies all around, alone!

Also, the US Navy sends the most IA ( Individual Augments ) to the battle zones. An IA gets extra training and is sent to the Mid East to fight. Anytime you see a medic within a group of Marines...Yep, you guessed it. A Naval Corpsmen. Remember Seal Team 6...Yep, Navy.

Don't say that the US Navy doesn't see shit, because of the fake shit you see and hear around you. Once you lived it, THEN you can come at me.


Tgirls are not "rare". No girl with a lick of wit would ever charge 3K an hour. No one would buy her time. You have no clue about the porn industry, you have no clue about escorting, and you certainly have no understanding of tgirls, especially with you making absurd assumptions about all of this.

Your opinion will never change my mind to jump this porn ship. I know the risks and I protect myself wholly. I enjoy the work I do and I am very happy with my life!

Again...ONCE you live this life ( be it being a tgirl, in porn, an escort, served in the military ) THEN you can come in here and make solid arguments. Until then, your argument is invalid.

GroobySteven
01-06-2014, 02:27 AM
I NEED to answer that? Lol, you're so transparent! Please refer to the definition of insecure. I haven't been proven wrong about anything. You have WHITE KNIGHT SYNDROME, it is cool though, I won't hold it against you.

You can PM me privately if you need. No multiple usernames. Site rules since before I had.

dderek123
01-06-2014, 02:52 AM
Of course, I have worked for $12 an hour. You do realize minimum wage in America is $7.25?

Maybe his severe disdain for poor people stopped him from learning that one :dancing:

Dino Velvet
01-06-2014, 03:03 AM
Ralph's Market in LA is being rewarded for compliance with the city ordinance doing away with plastic bags. They now charge ten cents for paper bags that they are allowed to keep. This is free money since they now charge for something they gave away for free before. Shouldn't the workers now ask for a raise?

christianxxx
01-06-2014, 05:42 AM
Gelson's is also charging 10c per bag

Dino Velvet
01-06-2014, 05:57 AM
Gelson's is also charging 10c per bag

All the grocery stores in LA now. If they don't get a raise they should lower the prices of the groceries. Don't stores like Best Buy still use this horrible contraband to bag up our Blu-rays with? I can buy weed here but it's wrong to put it in a plastic bag. What The H? I'd rather deal with an honest villain than a phony do-gooder.

buckjohnson
01-06-2014, 06:38 AM
physically sick after anal sex?
that sounds like something totally unrelated and she should get checked out by a doctor.
anal sex when done properly isnt physically or mentally traumatic.take it from a bottom hun

I think there are always potential to be physical sick after anal sex And sort of off topic but for escorts I dont understantd clients who want escorts who want escorts to always bust a nut. I am a man who love and want my male body parts (unlike many tg escorts) and I cant bust a nut 6 times a day. Maybe 4 times and that is with someone I like, want to be with, think is sexy, etc. (Unlike escorts clients who want the nut despite lack of mutual attraction.)

buckjohnson
01-06-2014, 06:56 AM
Yes I have fucked 100's of American woman, been invovled with 100's more, I know them as well as you know your ass.the nerologist bit was an inside joke for a particular member, was not really meant for the whole board and I should not have wrote it. Texas is the most fucked up state in America by lots of measurements, fron public education, to womsn/civil/transgender rights,lack of public transportation, some stupid governers, a sodomy law so stupid that the US Supreme Court had to overturn, to spending billions on a football stadium with no public transportation access, to having income inequality that is tops in the natIon after NYC, to being on disputed illegally confiscated land, and a State that so big takes over 24 hours to travel. Those are just some random druken thoughts. Sober I might have some non-retarded thoughs and correct spelling. Working on the drunken posts. You should work on manners and not judging folks intelluct by their druken posts on an internet porn board.
Sooo... you've met most American women?

Also...

Ass fucking is just ass fucking. What sane person would compare it to being a neurologist?

Also...

I'm a lifelong resident of Texas and it's been just fine for 34 years I've been here.

Also...

What the hell is wrong with your English?

Also...

Why are you making up oddly specific yet completely unfounded assertions anyhow?

Are you a little tiny bit retarded?

Rusty Eldora
01-06-2014, 07:00 AM
Eva - I shortened a bit

My ship was apart of 7th Fleet. 7th Fleet, the ONLY Forward deployed fleet in the whole US Navy. We had to deal with everything concerning Russia, North Korea, and China.

Doing porn is a choice. Doing escort work, is a choice. Joining the military, is a choice. We all decide what field to pursue.

By the way...The Fukushima incident was and still is completely RELEVANT.

Tgirls are not "rare". No girl with a lick of wit would ever charge 3K an hour. No one would buy her time. You have no clue about the porn industry, you have no clue about escorting, and you certainly have no understanding of tgirls, especially with you making absurd assumptions about all of this.

Your opinion will never change my mind to jump this porn ship. I know the risks and I protect myself wholly. I enjoy the work I do and I am very happy with my life!

Again...ONCE you live this life ( be it being a tgirl, in porn, an escort, served in the military ) THEN you can come in here and make solid arguments. Until then, your argument is invalid.

My son is a civilian that supports the 7th fleet, yes Fukushima was a huge deal. Serious enough the GW sailed 3 days after even though it was in full overhaul. Active duty navy at sea work their butts off daily with a high degree of risk. I really thank you for your service.

Transitioning to a tgirl is a major life choice, being an escort or sex worker can be a good career choice. I am glad you enjoy the work you do and hope it brings many years of enjoyment.

We are on a site that is about TS women in so many ways, yes much is around the sex industry. One would assume that those that visit her like and appreciate TG women. I know I do. However, there are lowlifes that have probably done far less than you, or the other Tgirls here, with their lives trying to denigrate. I wish they would just go back under their rock.

Ben
01-06-2014, 07:27 AM
Wish GG [retired] Racquel Darrian would do one last flick....

Racquel Darrian The Brunette Goddess - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x1hA_1b9uw)