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GroobySteven
10-17-2013, 07:32 PM
So the time is here to nominate for Tranny Awards 2013. As usual, we take nominations to come up with a short-list, and this year the short-list will be MUCH shorter!

Nominations close Nov. 15th.
Don't complain afterwards if you think someone else should be on the list - but you didn't nominate.

Please read the notes and I look forward to seeing your nominations!

http://trannyawards.com/vote-now/

TSPornFan
10-17-2013, 07:37 PM
No contests this year for nominating girls?

I see a category for best FTM performer. Buck Angle is the only one who I know. Anybody else?

Nikka
10-17-2013, 07:39 PM
Best Asian/South American Performer:

please vote for me guys :rock2

GroobySteven
10-17-2013, 07:40 PM
No contests this year for nominating girls?

I see a category for best FTM performer. Buck Angle is the only one who I know. Anybody else?


Contest will be on the Readers Choice Votes.

Buck Angel, James Darling the other boys at http://ftmfucker.com/

Nikka
10-17-2013, 07:42 PM
No contests this year for nominating girls?

I see a category for best FTM performer. Buck Angle is the only one who I know. Anybody else?

I think there r a couple but buck angel will win for 49th time :banana:

iagodelgado
10-17-2013, 08:12 PM
Jesus, Seanchai, the only question I cannot see is what is my inside leg length!

iagodelgado
10-17-2013, 08:19 PM
Best Asian/South American Performer:

please vote for me guys :rock2


How about shameless vote-buying? I will vote for you if you will vote for my choice, who is the category which has nothing to do with Latina.

Deal?

Rusty Eldora
10-17-2013, 08:22 PM
Can Registration # be your Hung Angels handle. or is this not a Social Network?

GroobySteven
10-17-2013, 08:33 PM
Can Registration # be your Hung Angels handle. or is this not a Social Network?

Correct

GroobySteven
10-17-2013, 08:45 PM
Jesus, Seanchai, the only question I cannot see is what is my inside leg length!


Only one more than last year - add as many or as few as you like,

EvaCassini
10-17-2013, 09:03 PM
Vote for me *Insert name here*, you sexy beast, I voted for you last night in bed, drenched in your cum! ;) hehehe

Stefani_Special
10-17-2013, 09:07 PM
Please vote for me guys! It's my first year going to the awards & I'm eligible for more than a few categories.

Vote Stefani Special please!

TSPornFan
10-17-2013, 09:56 PM
Don't forget to nominate me for number one fan!

GroobySteven
10-17-2013, 10:04 PM
Don't forget to nominate me for number one fan!

There might be a special prize for number one something. Bella has been a previous recipient.

EvaCassini
10-17-2013, 10:06 PM
hehehe. Maybe Franklin and I should get the "Duel Duet" award. ;)

nysprod
10-17-2013, 11:13 PM
Best Asian/South American Performer:

please vote for me guys :rock2


I suggest making these separate categories.

transinny
10-17-2013, 11:17 PM
Why wasn't Giovanni nominated? He is one of the very few hot male performers in TS porn... yet we see the male nominations almost always the same...

EvaCassini
10-17-2013, 11:19 PM
I agree with nyspod, unless you can put in 2+ names in the box. I voted for Yuri Myeon for that and Best New Face...( she's Korean = asian ) ( idk any of the girls that actually live in Asian countries ) :p

Damn someone's got some hate out for me with their consistent dislikes on everything I post...everything. Da fuq? Man/Woman-up and tell me off like big boy or girl.

WendyWilliams
10-17-2013, 11:43 PM
Why wasn't Giovanni nominated? He is one of the very few hot male performers in TS porn... yet we see the male nominations almost always the same...

Umm nominations aren't even out yet LOL... They just started pre-nomming TODAY. You are looking at last years list apparently.

You can go to the vote page and nominate him yourself.

BellaBellucci
10-17-2013, 11:58 PM
There might be a special prize for number one something. Bella has been a previous recipient.

Bella for Biggest Pain In The Ass!

But alas, I'm not a top. :lol:

~BB~

RallyCola
10-18-2013, 12:25 AM
my nominations are in. after careful thought, i ended up changing a few names that the last minute. my nominee for best website scene is a very very recent scene that had me laughing just as much as fapping...venus and foxxy at the nail salon. "fie dolla more fo sucki sucki"

i did not nominate anyone for best FTM performer and my best scene and dvd director ended up being the same person but so be it.

for the south american/asian category, i read that as a girl that predominately appeared on a japanese site, brazilian/latina or thai site. if you are of south american decent or asian decent but in the US, i believe the intent is that you should be excluded from this category. no?

finally, i am not really sure if my nominee for best voluptuous model fits exactly, but i still submitted it anyway.

WendyWilliams
10-18-2013, 01:19 AM
I think Voluptuous model clearly was created for obvious reasons. We can call that one right now and save the hassle LOL Not sure I like breaking niche porn down into niche among a niche. Plus size models have won mainstream ts awards so making a separate category because a model like myself is bigger is almost saying "oh you cant make it in with the regular girls so here you go". Wouldn't that be non typical model? But I guess people can say that for a lot of things.


GOOD LUCK to my ladies and guys make sure you nominate that way when things come out your votes were counted :) Award season is in the air peeps.

LadyTSFrancine
10-18-2013, 04:12 AM
I have done with My nominations.

Hope there's some of you who will support Me for

Best Asian/South American Performer: FRANCINE GURCHIK

oh, Am I still fit on

Best New Face 2013: FRANCINE GURCHIK ???

...

iagodelgado
10-18-2013, 04:24 AM
I think Voluptuous model clearly was created for obvious reasons. We can call that one right now and save the hassle LOL Not sure I like breaking niche porn down into niche among a niche. Plus size models have won mainstream ts awards so making a separate category because a model like myself is bigger is almost saying "oh you cant make it in with the regular girls so here you go". Wouldn't that be non typical model? But I guess people can say that for a lot of things.


GOOD LUCK to my ladies and guys make sure you nominate that way when things come out your votes were counted :) Award season is in the air peeps.

Call it right now and save the hassle? Ha ha! I looked at the nominations form and realised I know diddley-shit about the current scene. After this comment, I now know I know even less than diddley-shit.

A clue would be nice.

TSPornFan
10-18-2013, 04:31 AM
my nominations are in. after careful thought, i ended up changing a few names that the last minute. my nominee for best website scene is a very very recent scene that had me laughing just as much as fapping...venus and foxxy at the nail salon. "fie dolla more fo sucki sucki"



Really? The story is very funny. Although there was barely any sex..

GroobySteven
10-18-2013, 09:54 AM
I think Voluptuous model clearly was created for obvious reasons. We can call that one right now and save the hassle LOL Not sure I like breaking niche porn down into niche among a niche. Plus size models have won mainstream ts awards so making a separate category because a model like myself is bigger is almost saying "oh you cant make it in with the regular girls so here you go". Wouldn't that be non typical model? But I guess people can say that for a lot of things.


GOOD LUCK to my ladies and guys make sure you nominate that way when things come out your votes were counted :) Award season is in the air peeps.
Oh Wendy, do we have to make this so sour and bitter already? It's in bad taste. I withdrew "non-typical" this year over feedback that neither the judges, the fans or the winner could really decide or clarify what was "non-typical."As we're trying to be be a show that celebrates all areas of tgirl erotica (like AVN or Xbiz do for mainstream), we'll be trying and testing new categories from time to time. You clearly don't know who suggested the Voluptuous Model Category but I believe it was one of your clients. Like mainstream have BBW categories, we'll try our own similar - and nextyear we might bring in Best Red Head, but I'm sure Juliette Stray would be a shoe-in.

GroobySteven
10-18-2013, 09:54 AM
Feel free to share and talk about what nominations you are putting in.

Ben in LA
10-18-2013, 11:38 AM
I nominate myself for best photographer: non-website/behind-the-scenes. Yeah! :dancing:

Kevin Dong
10-18-2013, 02:54 PM
I voted for Frank as best photographer and Buddy Wood for Best Scene Producer, as well as DVD director. With the originality and ingenuity of his "Tranny Chaser" - I think Buddy deserves it more than any other producer this year. Christian gets the nod for best Non-TS performer, Wendy Summers gets Best Personality, Michelle Austin gets "Voluptuous Model", and best Solo Site I had to give to Jamie French.

WendyWilliams
10-18-2013, 04:15 PM
Oh Wendy, do we have to make this so sour and bitter already? It's in bad taste. I withdrew "non-typical" this year over feedback that neither the judges, the fans or the winner could really decide or clarify what was "non-typical."As we're trying to be be a show that celebrates all areas of tgirl erotica (like AVN or Xbiz do for mainstream), we'll be trying and testing new categories from time to time. You clearly don't know who suggested the Voluptuous Model Category but I believe it was one of your clients. Like mainstream have BBW categories, we'll try our own similar - and nextyear we might bring in Best Red Head, but I'm sure Juliette Stray would be a shoe-in.


Now Now buttercups LOL... Im not sour at all but we both know why you created this category and that's ok, its your award show. Mainstream does have BBW categories but we are a Niche and BBW is a niche of our niche, just seems a bit "much". I don't attend so guess I shouldn't voice anything. :) Bitter? Ive won a lot of Awards so not bitter about this category at all, but as I said and I stick firm that we both know why you created it and for whom.

Ill make my client nominations and encourage people to vote as always :)


Now back to the Nominations: Go Aubrey, Kelli, Tiffany, Jonelle, Madison, Wendy, Strokers, Amy and Tyra.

GroobySteven
10-18-2013, 05:00 PM
Now Now buttercups LOL... Im not sour at all but we both know why you created this category and that's ok, its your award show. Mainstream does have BBW categories but we are a Niche and BBW is a niche of our niche, just seems a bit "much". I don't attend so guess I shouldn't voice anything. :) Bitter? Ive won a lot of Awards so not bitter about this category at all, but as I said and I stick firm that we both know why you created it and for whom.

Ill make my client nominations and encourage people to vote as always :)


Now back to the Nominations: Go Aubrey, Kelli, Tiffany, Jonelle, Madison, Wendy, Strokers, Amy and Tyra.


Yes - but you're wrong. It was Madison who came up with the concept of this award when we had a meeting last year and I tried it on a few people in the industry and they thought it was a good idea.

Apology will be accepted gracefully.

TSPornFan
10-18-2013, 07:48 PM
I nominated Aubrey Kate as the new best comer. Nobody else has really impressed me this year.

Lucia Matthews received my vote for best director. If she doesn't win the award then I am going to spam the shit and riot on this forum.

I'll share the other nominations later.


Oh Wendy, do we have to make this so sour and bitter already? It's in bad taste. I withdrew "non-typical" this year over feedback that neither the judges, the fans or the winner could really decide or clarify what was "non-typical."As we're trying to be be a show that celebrates all areas of tgirl erotica (like AVN or Xbiz do for mainstream), we'll be trying and testing new categories from time to time. You clearly don't know who suggested the Voluptuous Model Category but I believe it was one of your clients. Like mainstream have BBW categories, we'll try our own similar - and nextyear we might bring in Best Red Head, but I'm sure Juliette Stray would be a shoe-in.

In my opinion Juliette Stray shouldn't be a shoe-in. Juliette Stary is a natural red-head, but she hasn't been a red-head in over a year. She changed her look to a bimbo blonde. It would be odd to see a blonde win best red-head award when her hair has been changed for over a year.

Secondly, is it possible to make a rule about how active a girl is for an award? I know the Best Red Head isn't an award just yet. However, Juliette only has one new scene this year. Is that deserving one an award for the "best star in any category"?

Just my 2 cents.

Rivz
10-18-2013, 08:32 PM
I'm going to get a vagina, and stay male. I'll beat Buck...I swear!

GroobySteven
10-18-2013, 08:38 PM
In my opinion Juliette Stray shouldn't be a shoe-in. Juliette Stary is a natural red-head, but she hasn't been a red-head in over a year. She changed her look to a bimbo blonde. It would be odd to see a blonde win best red-head award when her hair has been changed for over a year.

Secondly, is it possible to make a rule about how active a girl is for an award? I know the Best Red Head isn't an award just yet. However, Juliette only has one new scene this year. Is that deserving one an award for the "best star in any category"?

Just my 2 cents.

I hope you are being sardonic.

BellaBellucci
10-18-2013, 08:47 PM
Oh Wendy, do we have to make this so sour and bitter already? It's in bad taste. I withdrew "non-typical" this year over feedback that neither the judges, the fans or the winner could really decide or clarify what was "non-typical."

It's the title. Have you considered 'alternative model?' And shouldn't there be a rule that last year winners are not eligible? I was nominated for an award for karaoke hosting this year, and this was one of their rules. Of course, the same people win every OTHER year instead, but hey, that's award shows for you and this might be a start to get some new girls nominated.

~BB~

TSPornFan
10-18-2013, 09:01 PM
I hope you are being sardonic.

No! It would look really stupid to see a blonde when the best red head award.

GroobySteven
10-18-2013, 09:02 PM
It's the title. Have you considered 'alternative model?' And shouldn't there be a rule that last year winners are not eligible? I was nominated for an award for karaoke hosting this year, and this was one of their rules. Of course, the same people win every OTHER year instead, but hey, that's award shows for you and this might be a start to get some new girls nominated.

~BB~


Alternative has the same problem, it's hard to define. I don't think the same girls has won two years in row ever in our awards.

Nikka
10-18-2013, 09:05 PM
nice pic

GroobySteven
10-18-2013, 09:06 PM
Dragged that one from the archives. That's a great pic!

EvaCassini
10-18-2013, 09:10 PM
Looking forward to seeing you again! <3

maxpower
10-18-2013, 09:17 PM
In my opinion Juliette Stray shouldn't be a shoe-in. Juliette Stary is a natural red-head, but she hasn't been a red-head in over a year. She changed her look to a bimbo blonde. It would be odd to see a blonde win best red-head award when her hair has been changed for over a year.

Secondly, is it possible to make a rule about how active a girl is for an award? I know the Best Red Head isn't an award just yet. However, Juliette only has one new scene this year. Is that deserving one an award for the "best star in any category"?

Just my 2 cents.



No! It would look really stupid to see a blonde when the best red head award.


SMH. He wasn't serious about a best red-head award. He was just being sardonic with Wendy. Do you not know how to read between the lines?

GroobySteven
10-18-2013, 09:21 PM
No! It would look really stupid to see a blonde when the best red head award.

You are way too serious. Switch of the porn and watch some comedy.

BellaBellucci
10-18-2013, 10:12 PM
Alternative has the same problem, it's hard to define. I don't think the same girls has won two years in row ever in our awards.

It's hard, but not impossible. Tattoos, edgy haircuts and personalities, and solo sites not on mainstream networks are all indicators that a girl may be 'alternative.' To me, alternative is anything that is not glamour-porn. Think Belladonna, as opposed to Jenna Jameson. There may be a glamour aspect, but to these girls, the art is more important.

And while it may true that nobody has ever won an award twice in a row, removing them from consideration entirely still leaves room for more nominees.

My $.02.

~BB~

GroobySteven
10-18-2013, 10:18 PM
And while it may true that nobody has ever won an award twice in a row, removing them from consideration entirely still leaves room for more nominees.


It's based on what they done over the 12 months. They can't be eliminated just because they've won before, that would be more unfair.

BellaBellucci
10-18-2013, 10:24 PM
It's based on what they done over the 12 months. They can't be eliminated just because they've won before, that would be more unfair.

I'm talking about categories. They would still be eligible for awards other than those they won the previous year, so I disagree... but then that's par for the course, isn't it? :lol:

~BB~

GroobySteven
10-18-2013, 10:28 PM
I'm talking about categories. They would still be eligible for awards other than those they won the previous year, so I disagree... but then that's par for the course, isn't it? :lol:

~BB~

Par the course is that you're wrong, yes.

So Best Performer couldn't win it two years in a row? What if last years Best Performer was also this years Best Performer? It doesn't make sense.

BellaBellucci
10-18-2013, 11:01 PM
Par the course is that you're wrong, yes.

So Best Performer couldn't win it two years in a row? What if last years Best Performer was also this years Best Performer? It doesn't make sense.

If they were that terrific, then they could still win an award for their performance, such as Best Scene or Best DVD.

But yeah, I'm totally an idiot. :lol:

~BB~

LadyTSFrancine
10-19-2013, 02:08 AM
It's based on what they done over the 12 months. They can't be eliminated just because they've won before, that would be more unfair.

Considering My site was just launched last July 2013... So I am still eligible for Best New Face... :-)

Hope so

BBaggins06
10-19-2013, 05:36 AM
If they were that terrific, then they could still win an award for their performance, such as Best Scene or Best DVD.

But yeah, I'm totally an idiot. :lol:

~BB~

Well, none of the major awards have that rule and they don't seem to be any worse for it.

I'm going to have to agree with seanchai. I'd rather have the best performer/scene/director win rather than have the second best win. It kinda smacks me of punishing excellence which is endemic nowadays.

BellaBellucci
10-19-2013, 06:19 AM
Well, none of the major awards have that rule and they don't seem to be any worse for it.

I'm going to have to agree with seanchai. I'd rather have the best performer/scene/director win rather than have the second best win. It kinda smacks me of punishing excellence which is endemic nowadays.

Girls complain about the annual AVN nominations and wins of the same girls year in and year out because it excludes newer models who haven't been granted the same level of exposure, so I really think you're wrong about that. Let's not pretend this industry doesn't have gatekeepers.

The current system smacks of nepotism, which is endemic nowadays.

~BB~

GroobySteven
10-22-2013, 09:03 PM
Girls complain about the annual AVN nominations and wins of the same girls year in and year out because it excludes newer models who haven't been granted the same level of exposure, so I really think you're wrong about that. Let's not pretend this industry doesn't have gatekeepers.

The current system smacks of nepotism, which is endemic nowadays.


I don't know anything about nepotism, we hire the best person for the job and that's all there is to it.

Does this industry have gatekeepers? Are we going to have to open this old chestnut again - just because nobody wants to work with you, it doesn't mean they're gatekeepers, they just don't see you as either a profitable/viable product, or they just don't like you personally, there isn't anything more insidious than that.

GroobySteven
10-22-2013, 09:03 PM
250 pre-nominations sent in for the Tranny Awards - keep them coming, only one per person please http://trannyawards.com/

BellaBellucci
10-22-2013, 10:20 PM
I don't know anything about nepotism, we hire the best person for the job and that's all there is to it.

Does this industry have gatekeepers? Are we going to have to open this old chestnut again - just because nobody wants to work with you, it doesn't mean they're gatekeepers, they just don't see you as either a profitable/viable product, or they just don't like you personally, there isn't anything more insidious than that.

Say what you will about me, but the old chestnuts are denying that producers and directors have horses in the race and that my brand isn't viable. I didn't attack anyone. I'm just keeping it real. But thanks for that personal attack based on my professional observation. What a great way to prove your point! I know I'm convinced. :lol:

Best of luck with your show!

~BB~

GroobySteven
10-22-2013, 11:46 PM
Say what you will about me, but the old chestnuts are denying that producers and directors have horses in the race and that my brand isn't viable. I didn't attack anyone. I'm just keeping it real. But thanks for that personal attack based on my professional observation. What a great way to prove your point! I know I'm convinced. :lol:

Best of luck with your show!

~BB~


It's not a personal attack about you or at you, it's MY professional observation and sincerely Bella, I actually quite like you. I know who you are and where I am with you. I think you've good ideas and you've made great improvements in your shoots. My real point is, that not only weren't you a good brand to invest in at an earlier point, you became such a pain in the ass, that your position became untenable to work with anyone. Nobody wants to work with you because YOU have closed the gate - and now it's rusted shut.

I actually can't think of a horse I have in the race this year. I have in earlier years (one won, the other didn't) and if you look at a previous dual year winner, you'll see she has nothing to do with the sponsors or producers of the awards. I know who I'd like to win ... the same girls I'd like a roll in the hay with, but I doubt they'll be the best picks either.

BellaBellucci
10-23-2013, 12:10 AM
It's not a personal attack about you or at you, it's MY professional observation and sincerely Bella, I actually quite like you. I know who you are and where I am with you. I think you've good ideas and you've made great improvements in your shoots. My real point is, that not only weren't you a good brand to invest in at an earlier point, you became such a pain in the ass, that your position became untenable to work with anyone. Nobody wants to work with you because YOU have closed the gate - and now it's rusted shut.

I actually can't think of a horse I have in the race this year. I have in earlier years (one won, the other didn't) and if you look at a previous dual year winner, you'll see she has nothing to do with the sponsors or producers of the awards. I know who I'd like to win ... the same girls I'd like a roll in the hay with, but I doubt they'll be the best picks either.

Now THAT is an honest statement, and I appreciate the compliments, even if I disagree that the gate SHOULD be 'rusted shut.' My issues have been political or business oriented, not personal. I've seen a bunch of improvements on that which I've criticized in the past and I haven't been shy about admitting it. I still have my gripes, but I try to minimize my public airing of them as much as possible, and so I think it's time to move on, don't you?

Ronald Reagan Speaks at Berlin Wall - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-PSq2dy754)

~BB~

GroobySteven
10-23-2013, 12:11 AM
Now THAT is an honest statement, and I appreciate the compliments, even if I disagree that the gate SHOULD be 'rusted shut.' My issues have been political or business oriented, not personal. I've seen a bunch of improvements on that which I've criticized in the past and I haven't been shy about admitting it. I still have my gripes, but I try to minimize my public airing of them as much as possible, and so I think it's time to move on, don't you?

Ronald Reagan Speaks at Berlin Wall - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-PSq2dy754)

~BB~

I believe you believe, they were business orientated.
I've moved on - come on. You need to squirt some "oil" on the rusted gate, it's your gate!

VictoriaVeil
10-23-2013, 01:25 AM
I'd like a roll in the hay with, but I doubt they'll be the best picks either.

A roll in the hay sounds like fantastic fun... :dancing:

Infern0
10-23-2013, 07:55 AM
I just hope Aubrey Kate wins best newcomer and Sunshyne Monroe wins best hardcore

Castor_Troy05
10-23-2013, 10:52 AM
I nominated Nikki cos she told me to. Fingers crossed

Though I do agree South American & Asian should be separate categories, or people are just gonna vote for Eva Lin usually over any south american

tommy001
10-23-2013, 02:54 PM
It's so difficult to choose! I have so many favourite girls, i can't make my mind up, that's the problem

Nikka
10-23-2013, 03:48 PM
I nominated Nikki cos she told me to. Fingers crossed



thanks Castor troy! :dancing:

tommy001
10-23-2013, 04:24 PM
Maybe somebody else could voting Nikka as well

RallyCola
10-24-2013, 12:49 AM
any update on how nominations are going or will we only get to see the short short list of choices at the end?

GroobySteven
10-24-2013, 01:28 AM
any update on how nominations are going or will we only get to see the short short list of choices at the end?


You'll see the short list ... which I'm aiming to be shorter than previous years. Had a good few hundred nomination emails sent..

WendyWilliams
10-24-2013, 02:07 AM
You'll see the short list ... which I'm aiming to be shorter than previous years. Had a good few hundred nomination emails sent..

Yes I totally agree last year there seemed a tad too many in each category so seemed almost anyone got one for the sake of nomination LOL


Time for us ladies to get to tweeting!

BellaBellucci
10-24-2013, 03:51 AM
Yes I totally agree last year there seemed a tad too many in each category so seemed almost anyone got one for the sake of nomination LOL


Time for us ladies to get to tweeting!

Wow! There's nothing like belittling the accomplishments of your fellow nominees. :lol:

~BB~

LadyTSFrancine
10-24-2013, 04:39 AM
Wow! There's nothing like belittling the accomplishments of your fellow nominees. :lol:

~BB~

well, maybe because she always get the most of the nominations in every category.,!

WendyWilliams
10-24-2013, 03:52 PM
Oh Bella stir the pot with your normal messy post. Nothing further than the truth. And Francine that is a false statement.

LadyTSFrancine
10-24-2013, 04:53 PM
Oh Bella stir the pot with your normal messy post. Nothing further than the truth. And Francine that is a false statement.

oh sorry if not... but with your popularity I'm sure you are.,! :)

BellaBellucci
10-24-2013, 10:18 PM
Oh Bella stir the pot with your normal messy post. Nothing further than the truth. And Francine that is a false statement.

You made a thoughtless comment and immediately blamed someone else calling you out on it. Nice.

You MUST be in PR. :lol:

By the way, you're welcome. Another girl might have done a lot worse than just poke fun.

~BB~

WendyWilliams
10-24-2013, 11:49 PM
Bella just because you say it so, doesn't mean it is. My thought process wasn't on that frame of negativity unlike you.

BellaBellucci
10-25-2013, 12:57 AM
Bella just because you say it so, doesn't mean it is. My thought process wasn't on that frame of negativity unlike you.

But it's what you said. It's right there in black and white. If you're in PR, you should say what you mean and mean what you say. Not to mention marketing rule #1: don't belittle the product. Deny it all you like, but that's exactly what you did, even if you didn't mean to.

I'm positive that you don't want my help, but you're going to get it anyway because you've expressed an interest in getting Up! Network's business. Part of the reason you didn't is because I pointed out to my brand-mates that the messy one is you, not I. This post is just the latest example of that. The other part of the reason is what I perceive as a conflict of interest.

Clean up your house a bit and maybe I'll soften my position, but what you said in this thread is entirely unacceptable and frankly, insulting to a LOT of girls, me included.

~BB~

Ecstatic
10-25-2013, 06:01 AM
Wendy, I trust you realize that Bella is speaking from her perspective, not for the UP Network as a whole. There were as many opinions about using an outside PR firm as there are member sites in our network, so the default position as a whole was to handle PR internally.

BellaBellucci
10-25-2013, 06:13 AM
Wendy, I trust you realize that Bella is speaking from her perspective, not for the UP Network as a whole. There were as many opinions about using an outside PR firm as there are member sites in our network, so the default position as a whole was to handle PR internally.

Absolutely. I did say 'part of the reason.' I never implied I spoke for everyone. I hope she didn't misconstrue that. If she takes issue with anything I said, I gladly take sole responsibility. :geek:

~BB~

WendyWilliams
10-25-2013, 06:43 AM
But it's what you said. It's right there in black and white. If you're in PR, you should say what you mean and mean what you say. Not to mention marketing rule #1: don't belittle the product. Deny it all you like, but that's exactly what you did, even if you didn't mean to.

I'm positive that you don't want my help, but you're going to get it anyway because you've expressed an interest in getting Up! Network's business. Part of the reason you didn't is because I pointed out to my brand-mates that the messy one is you, not I. This post is just the latest example of that. The other part of the reason is what I perceive as a conflict of interest.

Clean up your house a bit and maybe I'll soften my position, but what you said in this thread is entirely unacceptable and frankly, insulting to a LOT of girls, me included.

~BB~


First what I said was not meant in the way you are twisting it. I don't care if you are insulted or not as you are and NEVER have been of any importance to our genre or even at least a player in it. SO with that being said. I was approached at Exxxotica about the UP network and at that time and until now had NO idea you were even part of it. I was asked to send an email stating what I can and can not do and I did. No loss on my part as I sign new clients all the time and loose others (that's part of business). I would NEVER have anything to do with anything you are associated with as you are TOXIC . What you think of me is nothing but the text on a computer screen. I have accomplished everything I have wished for and more in this Industry and will CONTINUE as long as I choose.

So Bella you can think , suggest, want, scream, cry, argue ANYTHING you wish but I know how I meant it and you can choose to believe what you wish. I stand with my point that having over 10 ladies in a category is over kill, PLAIN AND SIMPLE. You are pathetic to me and always will be.

So now I can block you and wish you nothing but the best with your "career".

WendyWilliams
10-25-2013, 06:46 AM
Wendy, I trust you realize that Bella is speaking from her perspective, not for the UP Network as a whole. There were as many opinions about using an outside PR firm as there are member sites in our network, so the default position as a whole was to handle PR internally.


LOL I have not thought about it twice since we spoke. I am very happy with the crew of companies and ladies I work for.

BellaBellucci
10-25-2013, 06:55 AM
First what I said was not meant in the way you are twisting it.

I didn't twist anything. I conceded that you didn't mean it the way it came off. My critique is that your words should be more precise than that if you want to represent others.


I don't care if you are insulted or not as you are and NEVER have been of any importance to our genre or even at least a player in it.

And therein lies your REAL issue here. You accused me of assuming the worst about you, when in reality you're the one who is doing so to me because I'm not 'important' enough, in your estimation. If I were to hire someone to speak for me, I'd expect a lot better than someone who thinks they're better than I am.


I sign new clients all the time and loose others (that's part of business).

lose*


I would NEVER have anything to do with anything you are associated with as you are TOXIC .

Funny. I said the exact same thing about you. :lol:


What you think of me is nothing but the text on a computer screen. I have accomplished everything I have wished for and more in this Industry and will CONTINUE as long as I choose.

Wrong. You will continue as long as the industry will have you. Trust me. I'd know. :geek:


So Bella you can think , suggest, want, scream, cry, argue ANYTHING you wish but I know how I meant it and you can choose to believe what you wish.

I believe you made a mistake. Nothing more, nothing less.


I stand with my point that having over 10 ladies in a category is over kill, PLAIN AND SIMPLE. You are pathetic to me and always will be.

I've already addressed your irrational hatred of me.


So now I can block you and wish you nothing but the best with your "career".

Good night. Sleep well.

~BB~

BellaBellucci
10-25-2013, 08:31 AM
The other part of the reason is what I perceive as a conflict of interest.

I just caught the mistake here. This should read 'the other part of the reason I didn't want to hire you is...' Sorry about that. Sometimes my brain moves faster than my hands when I post, especially when I'm distracted, and I can totally see how my statement as worded might be misconstrued to mean that I made a unilateral decision for the network.

I did not.

~BB~

iagodelgado
11-06-2013, 02:00 PM
So the time is here to nominate for Tranny Awards 2013. As usual, we take nominations to come up with a short-list, and this year the short-list will be MUCH shorter!

Nominations close Nov. 15th.
Don't complain afterwards if you think someone else should be on the list - but you didn't nominate.

Please read the notes and I look forward to seeing your nominations!

http://trannyawards.com/vote-now/

Why on earth do you say nominations will close on Nov 15th and by Nov 6th the site says nominations have closed?

I can complain that someone I might want on the list fell foul of a cock-up. :ignore:

GroobySteven
11-06-2013, 02:30 PM
Why on earth do you say nominations will close on Nov 15th and by Nov 6th the site says nominations have closed?

I can complain that someone I might want on the list fell foul of a cock-up. :ignore:

We've enough suggestions for the nominations. If you didn't get them in by now, why did you wait.
This is only to draw up a short list and we needed the extra time.

http://joegirard.ca/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/lets-pretend-i-give-a-shit-and-leave-it-at-that.jpg

Nikka
11-06-2013, 03:50 PM
seanchai can u please consider voting from registered users from taiakashemales.com and rincontranny.com :)