Australia where are you?

[GroobySteven]

Why are there no Aussie producers or tgirls appearing. I've had a bunch of models apply over the years but every time I ask them to try and find some a producer nothing happens, or every time I ask a prospective producer to go and find some girls, it stalls.

Come on Australia - show us why good neighbours make good friends!

[martin48]

Because the place is full of assholes like this

http://australiafirstparty.net/liberals-labor-greens-alike-all-happy-for-transexuals-to-rear-aussie-kids/

[stan.smith]

Ive posted two threads asking the same question! where are the HOT AUSSIES?!!?!

[nysprod]

There seem to be a lot of them...what do you pay a photographer for a set of photos?

[GroobySteven]

There seem to be a lot of them...what do you pay a photographer for a set of photos?

Same in Australia as we do in N.America and Europe.

[GroobySteven]

Because the place is full of assholes like this

http://australiafirstparty.net/liberals-labor-greens-alike-all-happy-for-transexuals-to-rear-aussie-kids/

As many assholes like that in the USA and Europe - but can get girls and shooters.

[nysprod]

Same in Australia as we do in N.America and Europe.

A quick look at Sydney bp revealed a lot of Asian girls...i would guess you wouldn't be interested in them since you have that covered elsewhere?

[GroobySteven]

We do Asians in other countries - but I'm aware of all of this. Getting a shooter who can get girls and can get the content, is the problem (and getting the girls to shoot!)

[WendyWilliams]

Crazy this thread appeared as I would just speaking with an adult store in Queensland and the manager said that the TS community seems very hidden and they don't really sale a lot of DVD's or TG related toys. However the online store I spoke to says they do well with it. Just found odd that same area but diff. stories from a store manager too an online retailer.

[EvaCassini]

Maybe Jamie and I could be commissioned to take a "business trip" there? Whatya say boss? hehehe :)

[bluesoul]

where are the HOT AUSSIES?!!?!

they're in australia- particularly sydney

[EvaCassini]

Seanchai- Btw...I have a "connection" there. Really nice guy who knows a good amount of Aussie Tgirls... ;) If we were to be sent there, I am sure we could get in several girls for several shoots ;)

[GroobySteven]

Maybe Jamie and I could be commissioned to take a "business trip" there? Whatya say boss? hehehe :)

When I win the lottery and can get you some kangaroo visas.

[EvaCassini]

Okie doki! hehehe

I used to play the lottery alot when I was driving 18 wheelers cross country. My co-driver was a 63 yr old man who literally, looked and sounded like Jim Varney. Everytime we pulled into a truckstop to fuel up we would get several tickets, and hope that we could win enough to stop trucking lol. We had a love/hate thing for trucking.

[GroobySteven]

Okie doki! hehehe

I used to play the lottery alot when I was driving 18 wheelers cross country. My co-driver was a 63 yr old man who literally, looked and sounded like Jim Varney. Everytime we pulled into a truckstop to fuel up we would get several tickets, and hope that we could win enough to stop trucking lol. We had a love/hate thing for trucking.


If he could see you now ...

[christianxxx]

i have been to Australia twice now in the past 2 years and I went looking for TS girls in Sydney - Melbourne and Perth....had very very little luck

there isn't a single TS club on the whole continent. there are some large gay dance clubs with some TS girls there but they are more cross dressers or girls just starting

the backpage and eros and escort ads aren't very helpful either, just some asian girls and a few crossdressers

trust me, i spent 2 weeks each time on the prowl and got nowhere. you would think there would be some gorgeous blonde haired blue eyed TS girls running around, but alas that is false.

so strange and semi disappointing.

one thing to note, while in sydney at a smaller club, i did run into the legendary Christy McNichol. I was floored. very cool chick.

[christianxxx]

just bc - here is a link to some pics and my description of going to Australia the first time (and bangbok in there too) - Christian Sings the Blues - Australia & Thailand (http://cwians.typepad.com/christian_sings_the_blues/2012/09/back-from-vacation-to-an-upside-down-world.html)

http://cwians.typepad.com/.a/6a00e54fa3ec7c8833017744825962970d

[EvaCassini]

If he could see you now ...

I was actually full-time girl when I drove truck. I told him the first day we met and was super cool about it. But yeah...if he could see me now. lol I would have stayed in touch with him but my old smart phone with his number decided not to do a "smart" thing and literally die lol....so sadly I lost him.

[TsMelodyStar]

I know right! I'm in Aus and I'm like the only white girl... Hmm which I think I'll be using to my advantage pretty soon ;)

[amanda_s]

Why are there no Aussie producers or tgirls appearing.

It's not just limited to tgirls, there aren't that many aussie gg or male porn stars either. Australia has no local porn industry and we are so far away it doesn't really make sense to do porn unless you are really commited to that career path. Even if you had the commitment you need the looks and the body to back it up and with such a small population that equates to a very small number of girls.

So say you were to convince an aussie tgirl to do a shoot, where's the next shoot going to come from, and the next? Once she's done her first shoot she's now officially part of the porn industry and has to deal with all the negative shit that entails but will she make enough money to make it worthwhile?

[iagodelgado]

Isn't this a job for Frank?

Line a few girls up, send Frank in, do 4 to 6 shoots per girl, share the expenses over 2-3 Grooby sites and you've got a year's worth of Aussies.

[GroobySteven]

Only if we found a good hive of them.

[christianxxx]

It's not just limited to tgirls, there aren't that many aussie gg or male porn stars either. Australia has no local porn industry and we are so far away it doesn't really make sense to do porn unless you are really commited to that career path. Even if you had the commitment you need the looks and the body to back it up and with such a small population that equates to a very small number of girls.

So say you were to convince an aussie tgirl to do a shoot, where's the next shoot going to come from, and the next? Once she's done her first shoot she's now officially part of the porn industry and has to deal with all the negative shit that entails but will she make enough money to make it worthwhile?

that's ridiculous. you are making a ton of leaps and assumptions.

1. you are assuming that she is not an escort already
2. you are assuming that one shoot makes you part of the porn industry
3. what you think is enough money and what someone else thinks is not the same.

your post is hilarious. the moral conscience of porn. good times

[christianxxx]

Isn't this a job for Frank?

Line a few girls up, send Frank in, do 4 to 6 shoots per girl, share the expenses over 2-3 Grooby sites and you've got a year's worth of Aussies.

you can't line up girls that aren't there in the first place. you must not have read my post.

[TSBootyLondon]

Maybe i need to shake it up a little and ad a few AustralianLadyboys

I've spent allot of time down under, it's pretty lacking on a lot of fronts
I think their immigration process doesn't help. It's very hard for Asians in particular to get the go ahead!

I have a residence visa so can come and go as I wish took 5 years and lots of exams and cash to process! sadly it doesn't cover my girls :-(( xx

[christianxxx]

you are missing the point. there are asian girls in abundance in thailand, looking for australians in australia.

[iagodelgado]

Two starting points. transcend.net.au Shemales complete with room hire in Sidney.

Christy McNicol. Wants to do more porn. Toured the US recently, when one could have done a shoot for shemale.xxx or shemalepornstar. And if you had, I would have coughed up a month's membership just for that one shoot. As it is, she seems to have worked with another old-timer who goes by the name of Vaniity.

If she doesn't know half a dozen to a dozen Aussie girls who would like to be Franked, I don't know who does. Since her rate in transcend for both Christy plus posh room for an hour is just 220 Aussie, which seems to be about $150, I would think that a $50/head finders fee would more than incentivise her.

[Kevin Dong]

Two starting points. transcend.net.au Shemales complete with room hire in Sidney.

Christy McNicol. Wants to do more porn. Toured the US recently, when one could have done a shoot for shemale.xxx or shemalepornstar. And if you had, I would have coughed up a month's membership just for that one shoot. As it is, she seems to have worked with another old-timer who goes by the name of Vaniity.

If she doesn't know half a dozen to a dozen Aussie girls who would like to be Franked, I don't know who does. Since her rate in transcend for both Christy plus posh room for an hour is just 220 Aussie, which seems to be about $150, I would think that a $50/head finders fee would more than incentivise her.

I can't even get a tgirl to fart for $50

[iagodelgado]

I can't even get a tgirl to fart for $50

If you mean, you can't get a tgirl to fart for $50 ON SCREEN, then I'll believe you. If you mean, you meet a tgirl in a pub/club and say to her, $50 if you fart, OFF THE RECORD, she'll fart.

$50 is not for Christy doing anything on-screen. It is simply for checking out a known contact and ascertaining that said person would be willing to do a shoot if the price was right. Head-hunting.

That's $50 for 5 minutes work. Or let's call it 10 minutes. That makes $300/hour when she is willing to have sex and pay for an upper class room for $150/hour. No brainer.

How much do you make per hour, Kevin?

On to the third entry point. Les Girls, Sydney, started yeas ago (1957?). Whether it was around when Christian visited, I can't tell. It looks like it is doing a comeback after an absence.

But it is stuffed with tasty "female impersonators", most of them trans. And showgirl pays a lot less than porn.

Shame Christy is in Melbourne at the moment, cos you need someone in Sydney to check out how may of Les Girls would be interested.

PS How many tgirls are there in a hive?

[Kevin Dong]

If you mean, you can't get a tgirl to fart for $50 ON SCREEN, then I'll believe you. If you mean, you meet a tgirl in a pub/club and say to her, $50 if you fart, OFF THE RECORD, she'll fart.

$50 is not for Christy doing anything on-screen. It is simply for checking out a known contact and ascertaining that said person would be willing to do a shoot if the price was right. Head-hunting.

That's $50 for 5 minutes work. Or let's call it 10 minutes. That makes $300/hour when she is willing to have sex and pay for an upper class room for $150/hour. No brainer.

How much do you make per hour, Kevin?

On to the third entry point. Les Girls, Sydney, started yeas ago (1957?). Whether it was around when Christian visited, I can't tell. It looks like it is doing a comeback after an absence.

But it is stuffed with tasty "female impersonators", most of them trans. And showgirl pays a lot less than porn.

Shame Christy is in Melbourne at the moment, cos you need someone in Sydney to check out how may of Les Girls would be interested.

PS How many tgirls are there in a hive?

I make a very modest living but I also don't think you understand the big picture. Nobody will do shit for $50.

[WendyWilliams]

Two starting points. transcend.net.au Shemales complete with room hire in Sidney.

Christy McNicol. Wants to do more porn. Toured the US recently, when one could have done a shoot for shemale.xxx or shemalepornstar. And if you had, I would have coughed up a month's membership just for that one shoot. As it is, she seems to have worked with another old-timer who goes by the name of Vaniity.

If she doesn't know half a dozen to a dozen Aussie girls who would like to be Franked, I don't know who does. Since her rate in transcend for both Christy plus posh room for an hour is just 220 Aussie, which seems to be about $150, I would think that a $50/head finders fee would more than incentivise her.

Sorry if she told you that then NOT true. I contacted her on twitter TWICE about shooting for my site and other sites and she said she was not shooting while in Vegas but when she got to LA she would let me know. I never heard from her again. I had no idea who she was until a fan filled me in as she was before my time or just exiting as I came onto the screen. I did some google research and became interested. She did hang out with Vaniity but with all due respect Vaniity lives in a "vanoptia" or whatever she calls it so maybe she clouded the realistic views of what Christy could make returning.

Either way she had offers while in US she CHOSE for whatever reason not to follow up. :)

[iagodelgado]

Kevin, Wendy, sorry you can't or didn't make it work.

For the rest of us, here's one legend, Christy, playing around with another legend, Vaniity, on the US tour.

Reality works.

[WendyWilliams]

LOL don't get all worked up, I was just commenting on how you said she wanted work.

And yes we all have our own "reality" or "fame bubble"... Nothing wrong with that.

Ok back to AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE

[christianxxx]

you think i didn't ask Christy to help me find other girls when I met her in Sydney A YEAR AGO? cmon now bro.

[youngblood61]

Damn, I would love to see Christy now. Any recent pics of this beauty?

[Stavros]

On to the third entry point. Les Girls, Sydney, started yeas ago (1957?). Whether it was around when Christian visited, I can't tell. It looks like it is doing a comeback after an absence.

But it is stuffed with tasty "female impersonators", most of them trans. And showgirl pays a lot less than porn.


I saw Les Girls when they were in residence at the Wimbledon Theatre in London in, I think, 1980 (I have the programme somewhere, probably in a box with the rest of my opera/ballet/theatre/concert programmes), of whom Carlotta was a star -for some reason I recall her being blonde in the show (see second link below)- she also wrote a biography and I believe moved/retired to the Gold Coast. She can be seen in various youtube postings here:
Stations of the X - 89 carlotta / les girls redux - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj94DQCxHfk&list=PLEC456BF8FE35BDAF&index=7)

and here:

http://tschitchat.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/carlotta-icon.html

I doubt any of Les Girls would do porn, same goes for the girls in the Thai cabarets like Tiffany -more expert opinion will confirm, deny this. Some won't even escort.

A Filipina I have known and trusted for nearly ten years will not set foot in Australia; another I know has only heard negative reaction from other Filipinas (all TS) about the place. I can list 100 countries I would like to visit, Australia isn't one of them.

[Castor_Troy05]

With the cost of living down under, you'll have to pay a load more to convince any aus models to come out of the woodwork. Just not worth it with Asia so close

[nysprod]

I don't see what the big deal about labeling girls as being from Australia is...I mean, they're Caucasian, which basically makes them indistinguishable from U.S./Europe/etc. girls, unless maybe you hear them speak.

Like if you have pics of a nice looking blond and say she's from Melbourne or Miami, what's the difference?

[amanda_s]

that's ridiculous. you are making a ton of leaps and assumptions.

1. you are assuming that she is not an escort already
2. you are assuming that one shoot makes you part of the porn industry
3. what you think is enough money and what someone else thinks is not the same.

your post is hilarious. the moral conscience of porn. good times

If you found my post hilarious Christian it's probably because you have the mentality of a 13 year old. You also seem unable to maintain a consistent argument across multiple threads. Here's what you said a while ago:


porn/escorting/sex is a tough business on many levels. there is no guidebook for getting started or navigating through it. Things that don't enter your mind as potential obstacles/roadblocks/problems become HUGE later on.

I too didn't realize that my real name would get out there, but I was quickly disabused of that notion soon after my first 2 scenes came out. Real life friends/acquaintances know me and know my real name and they talk (and clearly watch porn) and one thing leads to another...

11 years later and the whole world knows, my entire family knows, my entire classmates from high school & college knows, all of my teammates know, the kids I taught and coached know.

This is not the way I would have liked it, but it is still a fact. You can't undo decisions that have already been made. Now I have an obligation that since I have inextricably linked my real name with my porn career, that I MUST earn every single last penny that I can from this business and make sure that I didn't waste these years by leaving the sex industry with less of a (financial) future than when I entered into it.

That's what I would tell Dita or anyone else who has already entered the business. There is no putting the lid on the box. Whether you continue on in the sex industry and people know your real name & stage name, or you get out and make minimum wage....people still know your real name & stage name. The only difference is that if you get out of the industry early, you get 100 percent of the stigma and reap very little of the benefits (increased financial security and/or quality of living). Every performer should read that last sentence and understand its an indisputable fact.


Here's what I said:


Once she's done her first shoot she's now officially part of the porn industry and has to deal with all the negative shit that entails but will she make enough money to make it worthwhile?

I didn't assume that a person becomes part of the porn industry after 1 shoot, I explicitly stated it. It's self evident. So when your real name was discovered after only 2 shoots were you or were you not part of the porn industry then?

My post had absolutely no moral judgements about porn, you just took it that way because you do porn and you are easily offended. My post was about whether the money an aussie tgirl could earn would make entering the porn industry worthwhile.

You don't have any grooby producers here, do you know of any local trans producers? How many shoots would an aussie tgirl get to do here before she has to get on a plane and go to LA? You were here recently, how much was that ticket to get here? There's a girl complaining on this forum she can't afford to get to her next grooby shoot so what chance does an aussie tgirl have?

That is why I said if you want to do porn you need to be totally committed and if you can't answer those questions then maybe that's why despite your high porn profile you could not convince any aussies to do porn.

[GroobySteven]

With the cost of living down under, you'll have to pay a load more to convince any aus models to come out of the woodwork. Just not worth it with Asia so close

Is it more than the UK, France or Canada?

[GroobySteven]

You don't have any grooby producers here, do you know of any local trans producers?


We didn't had any producers in Canada or Japan either (both countries which are expensive to live in) yet we do now and have exclusive sites coming from them.

[iagodelgado]

In fairness, Christy McNicol's twitter account does say that she has decided to stop doing porn shoots (although it still describes her as a XXXmodel).

She reckons she's into producing now. Where is she off to next? Cambodia.

Isn't life rich?

[Astrax]

Is it more than the UK, France or Canada?

Yes.

Sydney, where you would find most girls, is currently 12th most expensive city in the world. Melbourne and other major cities aren't that much better.

I would love love love love to see some local girls and local content but there a few factors at play that might not make it feasible.

The major one is that, uh, Australia doesn't really have a porn industry to speak of - and most porn is made in Canberra...the small capital outside the major cities where the girls do live (because of long-existing and unenforced laws on the selling of pornography in the states - it's long a story and I wouldn't wish to bore anyone with a full rundown of Australian constitutionalism!). In fact, most Aussie GGs that get into porn cross over the Pacific for work.

[Castor_Troy05]

Is it more than the UK, France or Canada?


Substantially more. The average income is far higher to try accommodate for this, but everything is massively expensive there.

[wikid0ne]

OK its been a while since I been on these forums

But damn, are you looking in the right places?

I currently SHOOT 3 girls right now in aus who are looking to break into the industry and I have footage

Senachi, message me id love to have a chat with you bout this

Also christian... wtf were you doing in aus??? Would of hunted you down to get an autograph!

[Charlotte_periwinkle]

Sorry to bring up an old thread, but I'm in Australia and would love to do a shoot.

I've sent applications to grooby but haven't heard anything back, I assumed it was because I was in Australia and so far away that you guys were not interested.

[runningdownthatdream]

Because the place is full of assholes like this

http://australiafirstparty.net/liberals-labor-greens-alike-all-happy-for-transexuals-to-rear-aussie-kids/

I don't have to look at that link to agree with that statement ;)

[tsfan123]

hope to meet some girls in aus!

[OC Guy]

I am in sydney and always keen to meet up with anyone

[drongo]

Struth....fair crack of the sauce bottle mate...I've been flat out like a lizard drinking....it's as dry as a dead dingos donga...not many sheilamales down here downunder...yeah mate.....:cheers:

[jen471680]

Oookay.. !! As far as Melbourne is concerned, the busiest TS venue is Dt's pub in Richmond, and if anyone is looking for an exceptional place for photo sessions, a post-op friend of mine has a sensational property in Ferntree Gully, at very reasonable rates, usually staffed by former members of Les Girls...

[Sophiesinfull]

Hi Guys!!

I'm an Australian and always looking for a nice man who likes me "down under" so to speak....

Sophie

[Prospero]

There is an asian girl i know - works as half of the spit roast sisters - who lives most of the year in Australia and comes to the UK at most once a year.

[Sophiesinfull]

And a few more....

[OC Guy]

And a few more....

very nice pics. when will you be back in aus?