admirer bartering

[Fancy fancy]

I would like to ask the girls this...

There must many admirers out there that have skills that you may need, or indeed procure regularly.

Therefore, would you, for sex, accept payment in kind instead of cash for services rendered?

[VictoriaVeil]

how about answering your question with a question. If you are an admirer and want to support your particular favorite woman, why don't you do so without promise of sexual favors?

[Fancy fancy]

Irrelevant. You digress dear.

[VictoriaVeil]

A question directly related to your query is neither irrelevant nor a digression. If anything it is a progression to your logic. So I'll ask again; If you are an admirer, wouldn't it behoove you to support those you admire?

[Fancy fancy]

Victoria, its not my responsibility to support a lady I am not in a relationship with.

The question is this....

If a t girl I would like sex with requires I.e. dance lessons, and it turns out I am a dance teacher, would the said girl be receptive to bartering?

[Odelay]

What do you got, Fancy? Do you wash cars, do people's taxes, hitman for hire, what? What you offering?

[VictoriaVeil]

That would depend on the individual woman. But since you describe that this is a transaction/barter for sex, Let me ask you a different way: Would you trade your services for a dinner at a restaurant? OR for a ticket to ride a rollercoaster? Or to go to a music concert?

My guess is probably not. My guess is you would actually pay for those entertainment/services because that is something you want. And more importantly, IF you wanted one of the above, Those businesses wouldn't accept barter. So what makes you think its appropriate to ask a sex worker?

I'm not looking for any kind of answer. This is all rhetorical for you to think on your behaviors in asking what you did.

[Fancy fancy]

Happy to give your shoes a nice shine victoria you little peach

[VictoriaVeil]

My Fans/admirers/minions/do that without sex LOL

[LilyRox]

Don't be cheap fancy

[BeardedOne]

It's relative to the relationship and the commodity.

I've discussed all kinds of business with the gurls I've dated and, in a perfect world, I could trade knowledge for service or vicey/versey. I'm also an easy touch with someone I'm sweet on and will often dole out free advice with little more compensation than a nice evening of conversation.

Situations and relationships vary.

[robertlouis]

I can give employment law advice, at least as far as the UK and most of the EU is concerned. Or I could play you a song.

Your call ladies.

[BeardedOne]

Don't be cheap fancy

Aw, don't fault his curiosity. There's 'cheap' and there's 'frugal'.

I won't bat an eye at a fair price, but I'm not independently wealthy either.

There's a reason I only date about four times a year, if I'm lucky.

[robertlouis]

I would like to ask the girls this...

There must many admirers out there that have skills that you may need, or indeed procure regularly.

Therefore, would you, for sex, accept payment in kind instead of cash for services rendered?


Sounds like the start of a 70s porn film - are you going to fix her washing machine first? :dancing: :fuckin:

[lifeisfiction]

I am offering my sexual services in exchange for some things I need done. My inbox is going to be so filled. YEA

[LilyRox]

Aw, don't fault his curiosity. There's 'cheap' and there's 'frugal'.

I won't bat an eye at a fair price, but I'm not independently wealthy either.

There's a reason I only date about four times a year, if I'm lucky.

Someone shining shoes to get laid from someone they don't know is cheap in my opinion. Sorry if I have high standards. Thanks for the dislikes ;)

[lifeisfiction]

Someone shining shoes to get laid from someone they don't know is cheap in my opinion. Sorry if I have high standards. Thanks for the dislikes ;)

What if it is my Edward Greens, I mean they do need some special loving. Lily I already know, its going to cost me a Lambo for that loving so I wasn't going to bother ask.

[LilyRox]

What if it is my Edward Greens, I mean they do need some special loving. Lily I already know, its going to cost me a Lambo for that loving so I wasn't going to bother ask.

Haha yeah ;) <3

[SerCocksmith]

Im a researcher,if you need dirt on someone let me know,im also offering my penis and a good pounding for the right gurl..for free :p

[robertlouis]

Haha yeah ;) <3


Lily, may I say, irrelevantly, that the pic advertising your cam site is as cute as a basket of kittens?

[LilyRox]

Lily, may I say, irrelevantly, that the pic advertising your cam site is as cute as a basket of kittens?

Aw thanks. I should be on tomorrow ;)

[JenniferParisHusband]

Victoria raises an interesting argument. If you are an admirerer, then truly rather than barter, one should consider patronage, and support of those they admire based upon a noble and platonic duty to support. There is already a form of a social contract, in that you as the admierer have already received the benefit of their beauty and grace. That said, if the only offer availble to the admierer is beauty and grace, then the patronage shouldn't be of too excessive of value.

However, if barter is involved, then there is a concept of "Like-Cost" which needs to be explored. For example, as a lawyer I bill at $250 an hour, its essentially like getting paid to fuck someone, but usually without the person paying me getting any pleasure. As such, if my hour is in demand, I would seek (if not ethically barred from doing so), something comparable of cost. There is also the added dynamic of market force on the value. As a lawyer, people usually come to me when they are truly and deeply in need of help, making that $250 per hour a small price to pay for my assistance. While I imagine Fancy is an excellent dance instructor, perhaps the market forces requiring dance instruction are not as dire as those of a lawyer. Thus reducing the value of the cost of instruction, thus requiring a discount in the cost, or number of sessions required to equal the desired outcome this instructor is seeking.

I think Fancy needs to reconsider the demand for dance instruction based upon his available supply of it as well. Perhaps there are other dance instructors willing to engage in this type of bartering, that too would not only raise the supply curve, but lower the demand curve, thus forcing his equilibrium price to be reduced.

While I'm thinking of it, dance instruction is probably only an inferior good, as opposed to sex, which is a nominal good (which seldom sees price fluctuations even in uncertain economic times.) This would cause sex to have a constant higher value even when dance instruction value is on the decline in market value, and would skew the equilibrium price more in favor of sex, than instruction.

There are also costs involved for Victoria which would need to be factored in. I'm going to ignore risk as a factor and stick with fixed costs, such as condoms, lubricant, makeup, wardrobe, water, soap and other cleaning materials for both before and after, and washing sheets and the like, I'm assuming there is a bed usage fee that would have to be factored in as the springs of the matress would take on additional depreciation from the usage. These would all need to be added to any valuation of the sex, and deducted from the market equilibrium price of the instruction. However, there could be a ballance of costs based on instruction materials... Can't think of any, but I don't know much about dance instruction. Sorry Fancy, you might need to hire me for a consult and negotiations.

Robert, perhaps you could help me chart this out. I think we need a graph to better explain this.

And then there's just paying for it. That seems to work best most of the time.

[lifeisfiction]

Victoria raises an interesting argument. If you are an admirerer, then truly rather than barter, one should consider patronage, and support of those they admire based upon a noble and platonic duty to support. There is already a form of a social contract, in that you as the admierer have already received the benefit of their beauty and grace. That said, if the only offer availble to the admierer is beauty and grace, then the patronage shouldn't be of too excessive of value.

However, if barter is involved, then there is a concept of "Like-Cost" which needs to be explored. For example, as a lawyer I bill at $250 an hour, its essentially like getting paid to fuck someone, but usually without the person paying me getting any pleasure. As such, if my hour is in demand, I would seek (if not ethically barred from doing so), something comparable of cost. There is also the added dynamic of market force on the value. As a lawyer, people usually come to me when they are truly and deeply in need of help, making that $250 per hour a small price to pay for my assistance. While I imagine Fancy is an excellent dance instructor, perhaps the market forces requiring dance instruction are not as dire as those of a lawyer. Thus reducing the value of the cost of instruction, thus requiring a discount in the cost, or number of sessions required to equal the desired outcome this instructor is seeking.

I think Fancy needs to reconsider the demand for dance instruction based upon his available supply of it as well. Perhaps there are other dance instructors willing to engage in this type of bartering, that too would not only raise the supply curve, but lower the demand curve, thus forcing his equilibrium price to be reduced.

While I'm thinking of it, dance instruction is probably only an inferior good, as opposed to sex, which is a nominal good (which seldom sees price fluctuations even in uncertain economic times.) This would cause sex to have a constant higher value even when dance instruction value is on the decline in market value, and would skew the equilibrium price more in favor of sex, than instruction.

There are also costs involved for Victoria which would need to be factored in. I'm going to ignore risk as a factor and stick with fixed costs, such as condoms, lubricant, makeup, wardrobe, water, soap and other cleaning materials for both before and after, and washing sheets and the like, I'm assuming there is a bed usage fee that would have to be factored in as the springs of the matress would take on additional depreciation from the usage. These would all need to be added to any valuation of the sex, and deducted from the market equilibrium price of the instruction. However, there could be a ballance of costs based on instruction materials... Can't think of any, but I don't know much about dance instruction. Sorry Fancy, you might need to hire me for a consult and negotiations.

Robert, perhaps you could help me chart this out. I think we need a graph to better explain this.

And then there's just paying for it. That seems to work best most of the time.

Just curious your charging to $250 and hour, do you mind if I ask what state(s) you practice and what area of law is your practice. Please don't take this the wrong way I am just curious, if you wish not to answer the questions that is absolutely fine

[JenniferParisHusband]

Just curious your charging to $250 and hour, do you mind if I ask what state(s) you practice and what area of law is your practice. Please don't take this the wrong way I am just curious, if you wish not to answer the questions that is absolutely fine

Let me hit you with a private message for that.

[robertlouis]

For example, as a lawyer I bill at $250 an hour, its essentially like getting paid to fuck someone, but usually without the person paying me getting any pleasure.


There you have it, ladies and gentlemen: the ethics of the legal profession in a single sentence. LMAO.

[LilyRox]

Secrets out. Arctic lawyers make $250 a hour.:party:

[JenniferParisHusband]

Secrets out. Arctic lawyers make $250 a hour.:party:


Yeah, but the polar bears are notoriously hard to collect from.

[robertlouis]

Secrets out. Arctic lawyers make $250 a hour.:party:



If he's working with Sarah Palin he deserves five times that much.

I'd take my chances with the bears first.

[NYBURBS]

Funny enough, I've seen posts on CL where TS are offering to trade their "time and company" in return for stuff like fixing a broken computer or some home repair work. I'm sure they get quite a few replies.

[Prospero]

Someone shining shoes to get laid from someone they don't know is cheap in my opinion. Sorry if I have high standards. Thanks for the dislikes ;)

Depends... if Imelda Marcos was offering sex in return for him cleaning ALL her shoes, it might be a fair deal. He'd be so exhausted .... Oh and i LIKED your remark

[Fancy fancy]

So you could actually afford an hour with jennifer paris!

That would be a lot of shoes to shine....!!



Victoria raises an interesting argument. If you are an admirerer, then truly rather than barter, one should consider patronage, and support of those they admire based upon a noble and platonic duty to support. There is already a form of a social contract, in that you as the admierer have already received the benefit of their beauty and grace. That said, if the only offer availble to the admierer is beauty and grace, then the patronage shouldn't be of too excessive of value.

However, if barter is involved, then there is a concept of "Like-Cost" which needs to be explored. For example, as a lawyer I bill at $250 an hour, its essentially like getting paid to fuck someone, but usually without the person paying me getting any pleasure. As such, if my hour is in demand, I would seek (if not ethically barred from doing so), something comparable of cost. There is also the added dynamic of market force on the value. As a lawyer, people usually come to me when they are truly and deeply in need of help, making that $250 per hour a small price to pay for my assistance. While I imagine Fancy is an excellent dance instructor, perhaps the market forces requiring dance instruction are not as dire as those of a lawyer. Thus reducing the value of the cost of instruction, thus requiring a discount in the cost, or number of sessions required to equal the desired outcome this instructor is seeking.

I think Fancy needs to reconsider the demand for dance instruction based upon his available supply of it as well. Perhaps there are other dance instructors willing to engage in this type of bartering, that too would not only raise the supply curve, but lower the demand curve, thus forcing his equilibrium price to be reduced.

While I'm thinking of it, dance instruction is probably only an inferior good, as opposed to sex, which is a nominal good (which seldom sees price fluctuations even in uncertain economic times.) This would cause sex to have a constant higher value even when dance instruction value is on the decline in market value, and would skew the equilibrium price more in favor of sex, than instruction.

There are also costs involved for Victoria which would need to be factored in. I'm going to ignore risk as a factor and stick with fixed costs, such as condoms, lubricant, makeup, wardrobe, water, soap and other cleaning materials for both before and after, and washing sheets and the like, I'm assuming there is a bed usage fee that would have to be factored in as the springs of the matress would take on additional depreciation from the usage. These would all need to be added to any valuation of the sex, and deducted from the market equilibrium price of the instruction. However, there could be a ballance of costs based on instruction materials... Can't think of any, but I don't know much about dance instruction. Sorry Fancy, you might need to hire me for a consult and negotiations.

Robert, perhaps you could help me chart this out. I think we need a graph to better explain this.

And then there's just paying for it. That seems to work best most of the time.

[Fancy fancy]

Fuck it....

Liberty harkness - would you like your camera cleaned in exchange for a quick roll in the hay?

[LibertyHarkness]

i would probably exchange sex for physical services that cost me alot of money .

A short list of things would be -

- Car Service
- Painting Decoration/Building stuff (no i dont mean a crummy shelf) proper things like wall paper stripping, wallpapering, painting, laying flooring, fitting new bathroom etc
- Tailoring , if someone was a bespoke clothes maker ,and wanted to make outfits etc in exchange for hankypanky :)

Pretty much that would be the time i would forfit actual cash , as i would be having to spend cash anyway on these ...


Fancy hmmmmm I have alot of cameras :) what about my telescope :)

[Fancy fancy]

Thanks libby!!! Finally an answer to the original question. Merely trying to see where talent, desire and supply align for the good of all parties.

Im afraid I do not know much about telescopes though