The Time I Got Counter-Clocked

[nysprod]

I don't know if this is a good thing or not but after hanging out with a few TLadies, I've picked up on a little of the terminology.

If you're not familiar with it, getting "clocked" means a girl has gotten recognized as being trans...so I kind of made up the term "counter-clocked" to indicate a guy who gets recognized for being attracted to Tgirls.

How can a guy get recognized for liking Tgirls? IDK, but it happened to me.

I was on a trip with a few buddies who, as far as I know, are not at all into the scene. One night we wound up in a seedy local GG strip club where most of the strippers had apron stomachs and saggy tits, except for one girl who looked absolutely outstanding...Asian, a little dark-skinned, long, beautiful dark hair and a body to die for.

Naturally, we wound up chatting her up and in the course of discussion, found out she was Thai. So just as naturally, I piped up with "wow, I'd really love to go to Thailand one day." And that's when it happened.

This gorgeous Thai GG looked me straight in the eye and said "why, do you like ladyboys?"

I couldn't help but smile but I didn't say anything...then one of my buds was like, "what's a ladyboy?"

And, still looking at me right in the eye, this gorgeous GG Thai babe says "ask your friend, he knows."

Now, truth be told, I was sitting there the whole time thinking how hot she'd look with a dick and how much fun it would be to get a lap dance from her and find out she really had one.

So guess she must have read my mind.

[BellaBellucci]

Cool story, brah.

~BB~

[Ben in LA]

It's never happened to me...but it might eventually.

It's not like I totally hide it; those that follow me on Twitter know that. If and when it DOES happen, FUCK IT!

[nysprod]

Cool story, brah.

~BB~

Yeah, it was funny...as it turned out, I did end up saying I knew what a ladyboy was, but no, I didn't admit to being attracted to trans girls.

Attracted? Crazed is more like it...lol.

[LilyRox]

I bet she had a dick

[nysprod]

I bet she had a dick

I guess it's possible but if she did, I doubt she could ever get clocked...come to think of it, how come SHE knew what a ladyboy was??

[LilyRox]

I don't know why else she would bring up ladyboy's. I think she was signaling you that she wanted fucked hard.

[nysprod]

I don't know why else she would bring up ladyboy's. I think she was signaling you that she wanted fucked hard.

Nah...strippers in general don't fuck...the definition of a stripper is a girl who looks to suck as much money out of guys as possible while giving up nothing. This is like stripper code.

Besides, it's a statistical fact that in a typical strip club, 48% despise men, 50% are lesbians, and the remaining 2% have bf's who are professional MMA fighters.

Give or take.

[LilyRox]

Oh I was reading it real fast. I didnt read she was a stripper. I thought it was just some girl you met at a bar.

[nysprod]

Oh I was reading it real fast. I didnt read she was a stripper. I thought it was just some girl you met at a bar.

I did give some thought to this...what I came up with is that when I said I'd like to go to Thailand one day, she immediately assumed (correctly) that I'd like to go there for all the escorts available. And also she was kind of pissed that instead of being know for it's history, ancient temples and natural beauty, Thailand is instead one of the main destinations for sex tourism.

Stupid, right? I tend to go off on thoughts like this occasionally.

[runround04]

Awhile back I was blowing this girl when all the sudden she said "Hey, you like transgirls, dont ya?" I dont know how she figured it out.

[Prospero]

If she was from Thailand of COURSE she would know about ladyboys...

[Ms.Stepford]

So...basically, you chickenshitted out.

[nysprod]

So...basically, you chickenshitted out.

Who?

[BeardedOne]

Oh I was reading it real fast. I didnt read she was a stripper. I thought it was just some girl you met at a bar.

Well...It was some girl he met at a bar. ;)

[ed_jaxon]

The good thing about being "out there" is that nothing really shocks those who know you.

I had a girl try to out me to my brother and his girlfriend. So she says "yeah, Ed runs the local tranny bar". My brother's girlfriend turns white and I heard her whisper to my brother "did you hear that?" My brother just shrugs and says "yeah, Ed's into a lot of things".

If you act like it's a big deal you need to hide then others can tell you have that internal conflict. I'm not shouting shit at the top of my lungs but most of my closest friends know I am a wild mofo.

[Ms.Stepford]

Who?


Guess.

[nysprod]

The good thing about being "out there" is that nothing really shocks those who know you.

I had a girl try to out me to my brother and his girlfriend. So she says "yeah, Ed runs the local tranny bar". My brother's girlfriend turns white and I heard her whisper to my brother "did you hear that?" My brother just shrugs and says "yeah, Ed's into a lot of things".

If you act like it's a big deal you need to hide then others can tell you have that internal conflict. I'm not shouting shit at the top of my lungs but most of my closest friends know I am a wild mofo.

I'm not worried about friends, but I do think about my 21 year old...there's no way he's going to know...not today, not tomorrow, not ever.


Guess.

This is good advice for you Trixi:

I don't put myself in what I call "zero percentage" situations, which means situations where there's nothing to gain but plenty to lose.

What was there for me to gain by telling that Thai stripper or my friends that I like Tgirls? Absolutely nothing. But there was plenty to lose, starting with my privacy.

So why would I, or should I, put myself into a position where I can only lose?

[ed_jaxon]

I feel you on that Nysprod. Would not want my kid or mom to know either.

Funny thing about kids though, they know a lot more about us than we give them credit for.

[Ms.Stepford]

You could...have integrity, and be an agent for positive change.


Instead, you've perpetuated within yourself and with that woman the idea that people like me are a dirty secret, and undeserving of open affection.

I live this strength, courage, and integrity that I speak of everyday, so once again I'm calling nursery school shit on the fragile sexual self-image of the cis-hetero male who can't walk the walk.

[BellaBellucci]

I think you're both right. There's no easy solution.

~BB~

[nysprod]

You could...have integrity, and be an agent for positive change.


Instead, you've perpetuated within yourself and with that woman the idea that people like me are a dirty secret, and undeserving of open affection.

I live this strength, courage, and integrity that I speak of everyday, so once again I'm calling nursery school shit on the fragile sexual self-image of the cis-hetero male who can't walk the walk.

Well, not quite, and here's why:

My friends ARE well aware, because we have had extensive debates and discussions on the subject, that I am a person who totally supports all rights issues related to LGBT (ignoring for now that all these letters are not always copacetic with each other).

Additionally, my family (I'm divorced) is also well aware of my position on these issues, and that includes my son as well. Actually, this is one area where my ex and I have always been in agreement, and my son was always brought up to respect diversity. And certainly, if he was gay, or ever went with a trans girl (which he hasn't as far as I know) he would find nothing but support.

Now, does that mean I'm going to discuss my sexual preferences with my friends or family? No, because there's no reason to. And really, I don't think you or anyone else has the right to tell me how to live my life or to pass judgement on my decisions.

Just like I don't have those rights regarding your life choices.

That's part of diversity too.

[nysprod]

I think you're both right. There's no easy solution.

~BB~

Bella, I have to say I'm delighted with your conciliatory attitude...you're right, there are no easy solutions.

[Ms.Stepford]

I apologize about my tone but I envision a world where I'm not a dirty secret, and it's probably never going to happen, I know, but I'm still gonna tell y'all that you ought to be working on it too.


I mean, really, you're in a seedy strip club with friends, and you aren't talking about sex?

[nysprod]

I apologize about my tone but I envision a world where I'm not a dirty secret, and it's probably never going to happen, I know, but I'm still gonna tell y'all that you ought to be working on it too.

I mean, really, you're in a seedy strip club with friends, and you aren't talking about sex?

Hey, I hear where you're coming from...I don't have exact answers to all these questions...I don't even have answers to the questions I ask myself, but I have told myself to stop bothering me with stupid questions.

I sometimes get accused of being negative, but I see myself as more of a realist. IMO, the LGBT community is never going to find 100% acceptance as there always will be people who hate...so I think that if the full slate of rights become law and you're free to live your life as you choose, I think that's probably about as good as it's ever going to get.

[Ms.Stepford]

Those of us who dare are free to live the life that we must.

[nysprod]

Those of us who dare are free to live the life that we must.

Keep on keepin' on...one day at a time.

[dderek123]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lz4ucbdRCS1qj2jk0o1_500.gif

[LilyRox]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lz4ucbdRCS1qj2jk0o1_500.gif

Omg I love this show! "have you tried turning it off and on again?" xD

[dderek123]

Omg I love this show! "have you tried turning it off and on again?" xD

Yep it's a good one :)

[BellaBellucci]

Bella, I have to say I'm delighted with your conciliatory attitude...you're right, there are no easy solutions.

I'm really not the person you seem to think I am. I'm highly empirical and opinionated, but also educated. I don't go looking for a fight, but I don't generally back down from one, either. I actually care about things enough to argue about them and hopefully guide discussions to logical conclusions.

We're not always going to agree. Sometimes I get frustrated when people want to talk, but not listen, but other than that, I'm a very reasonable person... except when I'm around unreasonable people or other chaos. Sometimes you have to fight fire with fire.

Please forgive me when I feel the need to get harsh - usually, it's just tough love.

~BB~

[bluesoul]

What was there for me to gain by telling that Thai stripper or my friends that I like Tgirls? Absolutely nothing. But there was plenty to lose, starting with my privacy.

So why would I, or should I, put myself into a position where I can only lose?

it's an interesting defense, but it proves you don't see transsexuals as women, because what difference would it be to saying "yes, i enjoy the company of women"

also, when you say "privacy" do you mean seeing transsexuals is a private matter, or seeing escorts/prostitutes?

i don't know man- but i think you shot yourself in the foot with this thread. imo, you've got some serious damage control to administer- but you can always cross your fingers and hope something else happens to distract everyone from this blunder.

[Rusty Eldora]

I'm really not the person you seem to think I am. I'm highly empirical and opinionated, but also educated. I don't go looking for a fight, but I don't generally back down from one, either. I actually care about things enough to argue about them and hopefully guide discussions to logical conclusions.
~BB~

Bella - you don't argue, you debate with passion which I like


Those of us who dare are free to live the life that we must.

We should all live the lives we should for ourselves.

[runround04]

I apologize about my tone but I envision a world where I'm not a dirty secret, and it's probably never going to happen, I know, but I'm still gonna tell y'all that you ought to be working on it too.


I mean, really, you're in a seedy strip club with friends, and you aren't talking about sex?

Id like you to be my dirty everything:praying:

[nysprod]

it's an interesting defense, but it proves you don't see transsexuals as women, because what difference would it be to saying "yes, i enjoy the company of women"



And the reason your profile doesn't contain your real name, photo, and city you live in is because...

[bluesoul]

And the reason your profile doesn't contain your real name, photo, and city you live in is because...

if it did, what would that mean? and how does revealing my name, photo and city have anything to do with how i interact in the real world?

let me give you an example. you know anthony weiner right? so, he says he loves his wife. everyone knows his name, the city he lives in and his face. do his actions (http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2013/07/anthony_weiners_campaign_manger_quits_after_new_se xting_revelations.html) still prove he loves his wife? would it make a difference if we didn't know his name, city and face?

btw: shouldn't you have quoted the privacy issue i addressed? you'd have had a better case- and made my rebuttal a little more difficult.

[nysprod]

if it did, what would that mean? and how does revealing my name, photo and city have anything to do with how i interact in the real world?



How does my decision to keep my interests private from friends and family have have anything to do with how I interact here?

[bluesoul]

you're the one that brought it up

[Prospero]

NYsprod... why are you telling bluesoul off for not having his picture up when neither do you... unless you are the gorgeous girl in your avatar? Puzzled.

[nysprod]

you're the one that brought it up

The only thing I brought up was the o.p.


NYsprod... why are you telling bluesoul off for not having his picture up when neither do you... unless you are the gorgeous girl in your avatar? Puzzled.

I'm not telling him off at all..it's actually the other way around as bluesoul called me out for my decision to keep my lifestyle choices private from certain friends and family.

[Jericho]

The truth will set you free! :shrug


















btw, that's me in the avatar! :hide-1:

[dderek123]

We're not always going to agree. Sometimes I get frustrated when people want to talk, but not listen, but other than that, I'm a very reasonable person... except when I'm around unreasonable people or other chaos. Sometimes you have to fight fire with fire.

Please forgive me when I feel the need to get harsh - usually, it's just tough love.

~BB~

As I get older that seems to be the way of the world. Everyone wants to be heard but nobody wants to listen.

[Jericho]

As I get older that seems to be the way of the world. Everyone wants to be heard but nobody wants to listen.

On the other hand, considering the amount of shite some people come out with...Could you imagine the mess we'd be in if everybody did listen!!!

[bluesoul]

The only thing I brought up was the o.p.



I'm not telling him off at all..it's actually the other way around as bluesoul called me out for my decision to keep my lifestyle choices private from certain friends and family.

but the content of your op was to tell us how you interract with the real world. so in answer to this:


How does my decision to keep my interests private from friends and family have have anything to do with how I interact here?

it seems to have everything to do with how you interact here.

[dderek123]

On the other hand, considering the amount of shite some people come out with...Could you imagine the mess we'd be in if everybody did listen!!!

Quite fucking true.

[nysprod]

but the content of your op was to tell us how you interract with the real world. so in answer to this:



it seems to have everything to do with how you interact here.

Ok, if you've discussed your attraction to Tgirls with your children, that's something you've decided is best for you.

If my choice not to is something that bothers you, perhaps it's best if you don't interact with me.

[bluesoul]

Ok, if you've discussed your attraction to Tgirls with your children, that's something you've decided is best for you.

If my choice not to is something that bothers you, perhaps it's best if you don't interact with me.

it doesn't bother me what you do. i was just pointing out that your actions speak contrary to what you are saying.

here you are right now saying you choose not to discuss your attraction to tgirls, but earlier you said you'd support your son if he wanted to date a tgirl. how will he know about tgirls? you don't think it would serve as a better example if he learned this from his father?

also, would you advise him to remain just as tight lipped as you got if he was asked about tgirls or ladyboys?

[nysprod]

it doesn't bother me what you do. i was just pointing out that your actions speak contrary to what you are saying.

here you are right now saying you choose not to discuss your attraction to tgirls, but earlier you said you'd support your son if he wanted to date a tgirl. how will he know about tgirls? you don't think it would serve as a better example if he learned this from his father?

also, would you advise him to remain just as tight lipped as you got if he was asked about tgirls or ladyboys?

I would, and have, advised him to make his own decisions, and I support him either way.

[bluesoul]

I would, and have, advised him to make his own decisions, and I support him either way.

that didn't answer my question doc. but it's okay. you don't have to

[nysprod]

that didn't answer my question doc. but it's okay. you don't have to

The important thing is that he knows I support diversity and personal choice.

[runningdownthatdream]

The important thing is that he knows I support diversity and personal choice.

Yeah, you support it alright - in the closet (or anonymous message boards) where it's dark and no-one can see or hear your support. I believe that's bluesoul's point.

[nysprod]

Yeah, you support it alright - in the closet (or anonymous message boards) where it's dark and no-one can see or hear your support. I believe that's bluesoul's point.

You're wrong...I've been very vocal on this subject with family and friends...people who know me are very aware of my feelings on this topic.

[bluesoul]

You're wrong...I've been very vocal on this subject with family and friends...people who know me are very aware of my feelings on this topic.

but that's completely the opposite of what you said here:


How does my decision to keep my interests private from friends and family have have anything to do with how I interact here?

also look at your actions:




This gorgeous Thai GG looked me straight in the eye and said "why, do you like ladyboys?"

I couldn't help but smile but I didn't say anything...

[nysprod]

but that's completely the opposite of what you said here:



also look at your actions:

"My interests" pertain to my attraction to Tgirls...that's separate from supporting LGBT rights issues...one has nothing to do with the other because obviously, one needn't be LGBT to be supportive of people's right to marry, etc.

[bluesoul]

but you don't think it's hypocritical that you're very supportive of LGBT rights while keeping your own activities in the closet?

[nysprod]

but you don't think it's hypocritical that you're very supportive of LGBT rights while keeping your own activities in the closet?

It may not be the perfect situation but no, it isn't hypocritical...i don't view being supportive and not being totally open to be mutually exclusive.

[Jericho]

Damn, get a fukkin room, you two!

[dderek123]

Damn, get a fukkin room, you two!

Well that would be one way of resolving the discussion~!

[Jericho]

Hammer it out! :shrug

[dderek123]

Hammer it out! :shrug

I imagine it would start out a bit like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5E1JLR-h_bE

[Foggy]

Those Thai girls sure are wise asses....

[Flaco]

This same thing happened to me today! LOL I was at work, and I was ringing up a customer, I looked in our system to see her account and I noticed her last name was Lozada. It instantly reminded me of "Thayna Lozada" so I go "That's such a cool last name, where is it from?" So she goes "I'm Brazillian". So we start to chat about Brazil a bit, she told me about the weather, food, people etc. I start telling her I think Brazil is such an amazing country (The whole time I had a boner, because I was thinking of the hot TS in that country) and I said "I love Brazil, I have to go there one of these days" and then she responds "I'm sure you'll have a good time whenever you go visit, you seem to really like Brazil though...or maybe you're just into the trannies..." When she said this I felt my heart skip a beat! lol I was shocked and didn't know how to respond, like how the F did she know?! Maybe I'm starting to give off that aura? Luckily there wasn't anyone around to hear this convo lol. I think she saw the shock/panic in my face and she responded by saying "There's nothing wrong if that's what you're in to", and then she started walking off. I was in disbelief for like 4 hours after that, It really felt like that lady read my mind, she was pretty cool about it though so I'm not worried. Crazy experience though.

[nysprod]

This same thing happened to me today! LOL I was at work, and I was ringing up a customer, I looked in our system to see her account and I noticed her last name was Lozada. It instantly reminded me of "Thayna Lozada" so I go "That's such a cool last name, where is it from?" So she goes "I'm Brazillian". So we start to chat about Brazil a bit, she told me about the weather, food, people etc. I start telling her I think Brazil is such an amazing country (The whole time I had a boner, because I was thinking of the hot TS in that country) and I said "I love Brazil, I have to go there one of these days" and then she responds "I'm sure you'll have a good time whenever you go visit, you seem to really like Brazil though...or maybe you're just into the trannies..." When she said this I felt my heart skip a beat! lol I was shocked and didn't know how to respond, like how the F did she know?! Maybe I'm starting to give off that aura? Luckily there wasn't anyone around to hear this convo lol. I think she saw the shock/panic in my face and she responded by saying "There's nothing wrong if that's what you're in to", and then she started walking off. I was in disbelief for like 4 hours after that, It really felt like that lady read my mind, she was pretty cool about it though so I'm not worried. Crazy experience though.

Maybe she was trans?

[Flaco]

Maybe she was trans?

You never know, but I just don't see how. I'm 99% sure that lady was a GG.

[nysprod]

You never know, but I just don't see how. I'm 99% sure that lady was a GG.

Was she hot?

[Jackal]

Knowing of ladyboys is not the same thing as being attracted to transwomen. A lot of people have heard of the ladyboy population in Thailand but not every single one of them has an attraction to them. Get the difference? Also, your lack of confusion is obviously what gave it away that you knew who ladyboys were. For all she knows, you saw The Hangover Part II.

[Jackal]

This same thing happened to me today! LOL I was at work, and I was ringing up a customer, I looked in our system to see her account and I noticed her last name was Lozada. It instantly reminded me of "Thayna Lozada" so I go "That's such a cool last name, where is it from?" So she goes "I'm Brazillian". So we start to chat about Brazil a bit, she told me about the weather, food, people etc. I start telling her I think Brazil is such an amazing country (The whole time I had a boner, because I was thinking of the hot TS in that country) and I said "I love Brazil, I have to go there one of these days" and then she responds "I'm sure you'll have a good time whenever you go visit, you seem to really like Brazil though...or maybe you're just into the trannies..." When she said this I felt my heart skip a beat! lol I was shocked and didn't know how to respond, like how the F did she know?! Maybe I'm starting to give off that aura? Luckily there wasn't anyone around to hear this convo lol. I think she saw the shock/panic in my face and she responded by saying "There's nothing wrong if that's what you're in to", and then she started walking off. I was in disbelief for like 4 hours after that, It really felt like that lady read my mind, she was pretty cool about it though so I'm not worried. Crazy experience though.

I used to follow a Brazilian gg's vlog and she once said that the only thing Brasil is famous for are hot lingerie models and sexy transsexual women.

[nysprod]

I used to follow a Brazilian gg's vlog and she once said that the only thing Brasil is famous for are hot lingerie models and sexy transsexual women.

That's ridiculous, of course Brazil is known for hot GG's...