Male Pornstars in shape or not in shape?

[Rozayrifa]

The male pornstars in ts porn do you prefer them in shape or that doesn't matter as long as he can perform?

[robertlouis]

Does anyone watch ts porn for the guys??? :confused:

[Teydyn]

They are not important.

Not bigtime out of shape, not hairy (when is he taking of that shirt? ohh, he is naked already....) and most important: not being the unmentionable one....


Does anyone watch ts porn for the guys??? :confused:
This. There are no male pornstars in TS porn, just male actors...

[RadiusDark]

Uhhh, yea they are important.

[nysprod]

IMO, if the girl appears to be all turned on it really doesn't matter if the guy is in shape or not.

I just saw Caramel Bombshell and Jack...he's basically a regular looking guy...Caramel looked like she was all turned on, and the scene worked exceptionally well...very hot.

[robertlouis]

Couldn't care less what he looks like as long as he takes his fucking socks off.

[fred41]

..... as long as he takes his fucking socks off.

Yeah what is that all about? Does anybody know?...This site is full of people that film and act in porn. Please, someone explain why some actors keep their socks on...does that even come up in the scene discussion?..

I've never had sex and thought at the last minute...naaahh, I think I'll keep these on.
Why?
Stinky feet?! :D

[Jamie French]

Ugly dude will fuck up a porn for me. I'm not even looking at the guy but if I catch a flash of ugly in my little fantasy moment then the whole thing gets thrown off.

[Jamie French]

'Cause dude feet are ugly. If I had ugly feet I'd never show 'em. When producers take into account that we see everything from every angle as viewers of porn, I really appreciate it when they have the wherewithal to keep a dudes socks on. As a foot fetishest, it's like some one was nice enough not to barf all over that aspect of my sexuality.


Yeah what is that all about? Does anybody know?...This site is full of people that film and act in porn. Please, someone explain why some actors keep their socks on...does that even come up in the scene discussion?..

I've never had sex and thought at the last minute...naaahh, I think I'll keep these on.
Why?
Stinky feet?! :D

[EvaCassini]

flash of ugly... LMAO

BTW JAMIE...I LOVE YOU! Call me into the room when you see this, I have a surprise for you!

[robertlouis]

Yeah what is that all about? Does anybody know?...This site is full of people that film and act in porn. Please, someone explain why some actors keep their socks on...does that even come up in the scene discussion?..

I've never had sex and thought at the last minute...naaahh, I think I'll keep these on.
Why?
Stinky feet?! :D



And why are the socks always white FFS? Only the fashion-challenged and terminally gormless wear white socks. Unless they turn up for the shoot wearing mary janes, of course.

[fred41]

'Cause dude feet are ugly.

lol....but are they told that (WTF? cover those up!!!NOW!)....or they make that decision on their own?

[fred41]

And why are the socks always white FFS? Only the fashion-challenged and terminally gormless wear white socks. Unless they turn up for the shoot wearing mary janes, of course.

lmao...so true.
I just checked...I own one pair of white socks.

[Jamie French]

I edited my last reply with a fuller explanation... go back and check it out.

[runningdownthatdream]

lmao...so true.
I just checked...I own one pair of white socks.

I do believe that's one pair too many!

[Jamie French]

I just tell a dude to leave his socks on or better yet show up in a manly looking pair of Timberwhatevertheyrecalled work boots. That's hot.

[robertlouis]

I do believe that's one pair too many!

Umm, I've got a few pairs. But only for playing tennis.

[nysprod]

I just tell a dude to leave his socks on or better yet show up in a manly looking pair of Timberwhatevertheyrecalled work boots. That's hot.


Lol...that's sooo GAY!

[fred41]

I do believe that's one pair too many!

:) They're a stretched out pair that I probably only wear in an emergency..I should throw em out....but I'm sure there's a few pair of drawers that I should throw out too...but I don't for some reason.


Umm, I've got a few pairs. But only for playing tennis.

I didn't count the sports socks...the rules say I don't have to.

[robertlouis]

Is this the time to say that I prefer to see bare feet only in porn? I don't get the high heels on ladies thing either.

[Ben]

The male pornstars in ts porn do you prefer them in shape or that doesn't matter as long as he can perform?

Somewhat in shape. I mean, he doesn't have to be a fitness freak or a muscled man. But, yeah, in decent shape.

[Jamie French]

I don't watch gay porn so I wouldn't know. I just know that footwear on dudes is preferable than groddy exposed feet.


Lol...that's sooo GAY!

[robertlouis]

I don't watch gay porn so I wouldn't know. I just know that footwear on dudes is preferable than groddy exposed feet.



So you've got a bare feet phobia, Jamie?

[Ryz]

Ugly dude will fuck up a porn for me. I'm not even looking at the guy but if I catch a flash of ugly in my little fantasy moment then the whole thing gets thrown off.

lol this is so ironic

[EvaCassini]

ironic how?

[nysprod]

So you've got a bare feet phobia, Jamie?

Is this the time to say that I prefer to see bare feet only in porn? I don't get the high heels on ladies thing either.

Men should never have their feet exposed in porn, ever! Wanting to see them exposed is just plain weird, almost as weird as NOT wanting to see a woman's feet exposed or having a problem with high heels.

Worse than seeing a man's feet exposed in porn is like in a restaurant, especially a nice one...men who wear shorts and sandals to a decent place should be denied admission, if I see one near me I simply get up and leave...sickening to have man feet exposed when I'm trying to eat.

[fred41]

Is this the time to say that I prefer to see bare feet only in porn? I don't get the high heels on ladies thing either.

Heels can add to a scene....but not always.
bare feet are cool too.
but..
I don't like dirty bare feet. It's like...I'm not the the cleanest guy on the planet...but if you walk around my apt.barefoot...your feet stay clean. What kind of dump makes your feet dirty in a couple of minutes?

..unless the part calls for it....like they're fucking in the filthy bathroom of a medieval mental asylum...that could be hot.

[Jamie French]

Websters dictionary defines irony as: "the use of words to express something other than and especially the opposite of the literal meaning "

I literally do not like ugly dudes in my porn. What did I say that was ironic, having explained my preference with complete sincerity? So go ahead... explain yourself.


lol this is so ironic

[Ben in LA]

Funny convo about the socks issue. Don't get me started on ball caps...although that's been discussed already.

If you don't like white socks, stay out of Chicago.

I don't pay attention to the guys, but being in reasonable shape is good. You need the energy!

HOWEVER...if the partners have that chemistry no matter the looks, then oh well. Y'all wouldn't want to see ME naked anyway...

[Remy757Photog]

The male pornstars in ts porn do you prefer them in shape or that doesn't matter as long as he can perform?

It is my opinion that I want a guy that can perform well, show up on time, look decent, treat the girls with respect, and look decent in no particular order. So in that respect the guy is important, though from the viewers perspective, I'm not worrying about whether the guy who purchases ts porn is going to find my male performer attractive.



IMO, if the girl appears to be all turned on it really doesn't matter if the guy is in shape or not.

I just saw Caramel Bombshell and Jack...he's basically a regular looking guy...Caramel looked like she was all turned on, and the scene worked exceptionally well...very hot.

Jack was a really decent performer. Almost never had any issues staying rock hard in all the scenes I've filmed with him. I've had younger black guys struggle keeping their fucking dicks hard and/or showing up on time that it was really a bit of fresh air working with him. I'm really glad you liked that scene, it was a breeze to film.

I'm always looking for new reliable talent, and 95% of the people saying they are interested are totally bullshitting, or just want to 'bottom' on camera. I personally prefer filming the girls as the bottom unless the girl is a proven top with experience doing so on camera like a Sasha Strokes.

[christianxxx]

there is a straight porn company that requires all male performers to wear socks during the duration of the scene. its kinda disconcerting for a minute, but really not that big a deal.

but normally wearing socks while naked and fucking is kinda weird. but then again I get pedicures lol

[christianxxx]

you guys seem to think there is a limitless supply of male performers just begging to get into TS porn. this is not the case.

gay performers don't like women, so they hate TS girls.
straight performers are DEATHLY afraid of being called gay for many reasons, so they refuse to do TS girls on camera (this is slowly changing as the economics of porn change).

so you are left with a very small number of male performers. Literally there are many 5-10 in LA, and Giovanni is a straight performer who made the leap and thus is going to be very popular now (good for him).

this means that when the producers need a guy for a scene, they think hard cock first and everything else second, bc without a hard cock there is no scene.

[LilyRox]

Lol that's ironic. I was just about to reply to this thread thinking about Christian XXX being the most viewed male pornstar I've seen in TS porn then BAM Christian reply's. :)

[Jamie French]

Unrelated to the topic but completely related to the posts about the topic. This is the second time someone has misused the word irony. It doesn't mean what ya'll think it means. (I even posted the actual definition in an earlier post on this very thread.)

[LilyRox]

Unrelated to the topic but completely related to the posts about the topic. This is the second time someone has misused the word irony. It doesn't mean what ya'll think it means. (I even posted the actual definition in an earlier post on this very thread.)

One of the many definitions of irony:

irony - "an outcome of events contrary to what was, or might have been, expected."

I didn't expect to go about replying to this thread talking about Christian XXX with seeing him reply before me.

[Ms.Stepford]

A hot guy seems more likely to inspire a better performance from the girl.

I can have fun fucking anyone, but enthusiasm goes a long way.

[Jamie French]

According to your definition you are still wrong. You DID NOT expect Christian to respond. So nothing about his response contradicted your expectation, for there was no expectation. (Re-read what you wrote.)

I have a feeling people abuse the word irony because coincidence is hard to spell.


One of the many definitions of irony:

irony - "an outcome of events contrary to what was, or might have been, expected."

I didn't expect to go about replying to this thread talking about Christian XXX with seeing him reply before me.

[LilyRox]

According to your definition you are still wrong. You DID NOT expect Christian to respond. So nothing about his response contradicted your expectation, for there was no expectation. (Re-read what you wrote.)

I have a feeling people abuse the word irony because coincidence is hard to spell.

...but he did reply. So it was ironic because I didn't expect him to reply, but he did.

"an outcome of events contrary to what was, or might have been, expected."

I didn't mean coincidence or I would have wrote it. It's not a big deal with auto spell check anyways.

[Ms.Stepford]

Like RAYYYYYAYYYAIN ON YOUR WEHEDDING DAY!!

[Jamie French]

You said it a SECOND time. "I didn't expect him to reply" Without an expectation your definition of irony doesn't serve as a definition at all.

Don't argue with me kid, I'm old.

Louis CK : Older People are Smarter - Oh My God (HD) - YouTube (www.youtube.com/watch?v=lluY8RAZ6Qk)


...but he did reply. So it was ironic because I didn't expect him to reply, but he did.

"an outcome of events contrary to what was, or might have been, expected."

I didn't mean coincidence or I would have wrote it. It's not a big deal with auto spell check anyways.

[LilyRox]

You said it a SECOND time. "I didn't expect him to reply" Without an expectation your definition of irony doesn't serve as a definition at all.

Don't argue with me kid, I'm old.

Louis CK : Older People are Smarter - Oh My God (HD) - YouTube (www.youtube.com/watch?v=lluY8RAZ6Qk)

By me not expecting him to reply that means I was expecting him not to reply there.

Don't call me a kid, I'm a respected college graduate.

[Prospero]

Socks.... by decree... that is bizarre

[Ben in LA]

It's a double standard!

If gals can fuck with stockings on, how come guys can't fuck with socks on?

:party:

[Rozayrifa]

If I ever do a porn I would want to keep my socks on my feet are ugly;)

[nysprod]

but normally wearing socks while naked and fucking is kinda weird.




OMG man,that is a fucking CLASSIC of a statement...people have been talking about irony and this went like RIGHT OVER THEIR HEADS!

I mean, you're doing like all sorts of things with tranny's, but it's the wearing of sox that you find weird??

[Wendy Summers]

better yet show up in a manly looking pair of Timberwhatevertheyrecalled work boots. That's hot.

All fun and games on set until he steps on your feet and ruins your pedi...

#beentheredonethatdontwannamakeasequel

[Ms.Stepford]

OMG man,that is a fucking CLASSIC of a statement...people have been talking about irony and this went like RIGHT OVER THEIR HEADS!

I mean, you're doing like all sorts of things with tranny's, but it's the wearing of sox that you find weird??

Why? Is it, like, weird to do stuff with trans women, or something?

I don't get it.

[nysprod]

Why? Is it, like, weird to do stuff with trans women, or something?

I don't get it.

Lol...just being a wiseass...besides, I'm weird anyway...

[Jamie French]

I forget how new you are here. See, I'm Jamie French and I call you whatever I want. That's how that works. Kid. I never went to college, I have very little respect and I'm calling you kid. That's a thing that is happening and you now have to live with it.

Not having a thing is not the same as having the opposite thing. Are you sure you went to college? You're taking the wrong courses. Unless you're taking semantics murder. If so, you're acing that.


By me not expecting him to reply that means I was expecting him not to reply there.

Don't call me a kid, I'm a respected college graduate.

[bluesoul]

Lol that's ironic. I was just about to reply to this thread thinking about Christian XXX being the most viewed male pornstar I've seen in TS porn then BAM Christian reply's. :)

http://i.imgur.com/gKcJhG5.gif

[EvaCassini]

Lmmfao!!!!!!!

:dead: :dead: :dead:

[Prospero]

Offensiveness One is the course one member of this forum excelled in.

[LilyRox]

I forget how new you are here. See, I'm Jamie French and I call you whatever I want. That's how that works. Kid. I never went to college, I have very little respect and I'm calling you kid. That's a thing that is happening and you now have to live with it.

Not having a thing is not the same as having the opposite thing. Are you sure you went to college? You're taking the wrong courses. Unless you're taking semantics murder. If so, you're acing that.

I see Jamie French. Well, I typically have more manners than to refer to someone like that. I personally haven't been called a "kid" in years by anyone else. No matter your age I would never call someone "old" to their face. Seeings your lack of manners I'm not surprised you think you know everything.


Umm... yes I'm sure. Are you sure you know what semantics means?

It's just like saying:

"I didn't expect it to rain today, but it did."

If I did not expect to rain today what did I expect it not to do? Rain today.

Thus,

"I expected it not to rain today, but it did."

here's another one:

"I didn't think it would rain today, but it did."

What did you think it would not do?

"I thought it would not rain today, but it did."

It's just a different type of wording.


"Not having a thing is not the same as having the opposite thing."

You're right, but that's not what it is.

It's basically saying

if ab = c

ba = c

I think it's important to know this if you truly think they hold different meanings.

[GroobyKrissy]

Websters dictionary defines irony as: "the use of words to express something other than and especially the opposite of the literal meaning "

I literally do not like ugly dudes in my porn. What did I say that was ironic, having explained my preference with complete sincerity? So go ahead... explain yourself.

I'm just going to post this because you're once again being a douche, thinking you understand something you don't.

Ryz was indirectly calling YOU ugly (i.e. - you don't like ugly people in porn, but in his mind, you are one - and doing porn). THAT was the irony.

I don't agree with the sentiment obviously, but if you're going to get stupid with people, and start calling them out, make sure YOU understand their stupidity first. Get mad at him for calling you ugly... not for what YOU THINK, because you missed the point, is improper usage of a term you failed to grasp. The usage of the "irony" was fine based on his opinion.

[GroobyKrissy]

Actually, to be technically accurate... He is calling you an, 'ugly dude'. Get mad about that.

To give you credit though, your second 'call-out' is somewhat correct. So...there's that.

[EvaCassini]

Here we go again........ SMH

[Jamie French]

And your interpretation of what the dude said is more accurate than mine because? Seems to me if his comment is open to interpretation then not enough info was given in his original comment. Exactly why I asked him to explain himself.

What's your deal anyhow? Fuck off already.


I'm just going to post this because you're once again being a douche, thinking you understand something you don't.

Ryz was indirectly calling YOU ugly (i.e. - you don't like ugly people in porn, but in his mind, you are one - and doing porn). THAT was the irony.

I don't agree with the sentiment obviously, but if you're going to get stupid with people, and start calling them out, make sure YOU understand their stupidity first. Get mad at him for calling you ugly... not for what YOU THINK, because you missed the point, is improper usage of a term you failed to grasp. The usage of the "irony" was fine based on his opinion.

[Jamie French]

Rationalizing your fuck up after the fact? Typical for a kid. You initially said you held no expectations. No means no. None. No doesn't mean expectations not worth mentioning.

You'll just have to drop it kid. I don't ever stop.


I see Jamie French. Well, I typically have more manners than to refer to someone like that. I personally haven't been called a "kid" in years by anyone else. No matter your age I would never call someone "old" to their face. Seeings your lack of manners I'm not surprised you think you know everything.


Umm... yes I'm sure. Are you sure you know what semantics means?

It's just like saying:

"I didn't expect it to rain today, but it did."

If I did not expect to rain today what did I expect it not to do? Rain today.

Thus,

"I expected it not to rain today, but it did."

here's another one:

"I didn't think it would rain today, but it did."

What did you think it would not do?

"I thought it would not rain today, but it did."

It's just a different type of wording.


"Not having a thing is not the same as having the opposite thing."

You're right, but that's not what it is.

It's basically saying

if ab = c

ba = c

I think it's important to know this if you truly think they hold different meanings.

[LilyRox]

According to your definition you are still wrong. You DID NOT expect Christian to respond. So nothing about his response contradicted your expectation, for there was no expectation. (Re-read what you wrote.)

I have a feeling people abuse the word irony because coincidence is hard to spell.

Straight from the horse's mouth.

I did not expect Christian to respond.

I expected Christian to not respond.

It's not fixing my mistake. It's just common sense

[GroobyKrissy]

And your interpretation of what the dude said is more accurate than mine because? Seems to me if his comment is open to interpretation then not enough info was given in his original comment. Exactly why I asked him to explain himself.

What's your deal anyhow? Fuck off already.

You should not be calling people, "kid" when you, yourself are a petulant child.

So, it is OK for YOU to go around, strutting like a peacock, telling other people how stupid they are but when someone does it to you (and RIGHTFULLY SO)... you can't handle it...? Childish.

It isn't open to interpretation. YOU MISSED THE IRONY. The fact that you think irony is open to interpretation in the first place demonstrates you don't fully understand the word. Something IS or ISN'T ironic. His STATEMENT IS ironic (for the reasons already mentioned)...

SOMETHING CEASES to be "ironic" if you explain it... that is the whole point of "irony". It is a way of stating something... without stating it directly. I already explained the irony in Ryz's comment. Like it or not (and I don't), IT IS THERE, which makes your little preening session... ridiculous.

So, continue your little dance of how great and how smart and how perfect you are. You've been proven wrong in this case and any reasonable person with an understanding of irony knows it.

Look, Jamie, I wouldn't have even posted in the first place except you were begging to be smacked down with your preening, while totally missing the ACTUAL IRONY in Ryz's comment. Fine, one person uses the term [somewhat] incorrectly... and that gives you the right to jump all over them and call them "kid" and be a general douche?

You were asking to be straightened out, you were, and can't handle it. End of story.

[GroobyKrissy]

Straight from the horse's mouth.

I did not expect Christian to respond.

I expected Christian to not respond.

It's not fixing my mistake. It's just common sense

BTW... you're wrong in this.

I would drop it.

[Jamie French]

You give Ryz far too much credit. And you have a hero complex. Acerbic behavior sits wrong with you so you react. Can't blame ya for that. Everybody has a thing or two they don't like. What I can say is that I'm willing keep this going for as long as ya'll are willing to play into it.




You should not be calling people, "kid" when you, yourself are a petulant child.

So, it is OK for YOU to go around, strutting like a peacock, telling other people how stupid they are but when someone does it to you (and RIGHTFULLY SO)... you can't handle it...? Childish.

It isn't open to interpretation. YOU MISSED THE IRONY. The fact that you think irony is open to interpretation in the first place demonstrates you don't fully understand the word. Something IS or ISN'T ironic. His STATEMENT IS ironic (for the reasons already mentioned)...

SOMETHING CEASES to be "ironic" if you explain it... that is the whole point of "irony". It is a way of stating something... without stating it directly.

So, continue your little dance of how great and how smart and how perfect you are. You've been proven wrong in this case and any reasonable person with an understanding of irony knows it.

Look, Jamie, I wouldn't have even posted in the first place except you were begging to be smacked down with your preening, while totally missing the ACTUAL IRONY in Ryz's comment. Fine, one person uses the term [somewhat] incorrectly... and that gives you the right to jump all over them and call them "kid" and be a general douche?

You were asking to be straightened out, you were, and can't handle it. End of story.

[GroobyKrissy]

Here we go again........ SMH

No. This is not "here we go again"...

This is me simply pointing out that your GF is wrong in this instance and to point out the utter stupidity of her consequent preening.

Perhaps you two should GROW UP and learn to admit when you're wrong. Say,

"Oops... I totally missed that and threw a conniption fit after because I didn't understand the irony." (BONUS POINTS IF YOU ADD IN - I didn't understand the irony because I am so self-centered that I would never even think that someone could actually find me unattractive!)

And move on... That is what adults do.

I'm done here. I've stated the actual FACTS and there is no denying them by any REASONABLE person (which, I guess, excludes you).

[GroobyKrissy]

You give Ryz far too much credit. And you have a hero complex. Acerbic behavior sits wrong with you so you react. Can't blame ya for that. Everybody has a thing or two they don't like. What I can say is that I'm willing keep this going for as long as ya'll are willing to play into it.

Anything to avoid admitting you're wrong, right?

It's not a "hero" complex. I could care less about Lily Rox... she is pretty much wrong in that instance.

What I dislike is you calling other people dumb and stupid, while preening yourself, all the while not realizing that you MISSED THE ACTUAL IRONY in the statement that started your little tirade. That is truly dumb if we're to believe you are as smart and clever as you say you are.

This isn't a "thing or two..." This is a pattern of behavior for you.

YOU CALL PEOPLE OUT ALL THE TIME YET YOU CAN'T HANDLE IT WHEN DONE TO YOU... ESPECIALLY WHEN (as in this case) YOU'RE CLEARLY WRONG.

I don't have to continue... or play... or whatever. It's a done deal. You were wrong and I doubt anybody who has read the thread and actually understands irony denies it (besides you and Eva). Like I said, I'm done here. Go back to saying how great you are.

[GroobyKrissy]

And BOO HOO... you and Eva "dislike" my posts. Wahhhhh... I'm crying all the way to my grave.

Like anyone doesn't know it is you two? Geez. So full of yourselves.

[EvaCassini]

Have you nothing better to do, than being totally excited to answer for that dude, just to call Jamie an "ugly dude"? Does that make you feel better about yourself? Are you going to sleep better now?

See ya in Feb! :D

[GroobyKrissy]

Have you nothing better to do, than being totally excited to answer for that dude, just to call Jamie an "ugly dude"? Does that make you feel better about yourself? Are you going to sleep better now?

See ya in Feb! :D

Eva,

Let's be clear.

That has never come out of my mouth, nor will it ever, regardless of how heated things get between Jamie and I. I've only restated what was implied to explain the irony.

I'm not excited at all. If Jamie's preening wasn't getting worse and worse, I would never have even entered into the conversation as Lily Rox seems determined to dig her own grave.

I get tired of seeing you both (as a unit) call other people stupid though when you've demonstrated a complete lack of self-awareness and stupidity yourselves.

Professionally, I think you two are both doing great things. Jamie is a talented and creative individual. You seem to have a blossoming career and I wish you the best in it - sincerely. Here though, you both get carried away in your own little worlds of being self-absorbed and need to be brought down to Earth once in a while. That is all.

Am I supposed to be "scared" to see you February? Is that your point (of course not because of the smiley face, right?)? Real mature.

[nysprod]

Jamie and Krissy should settle this with a hot oil wrestling match...the loser will get used and abused by a few audience members while the winner watches and laughs...but she winds up joining the fun, being unable to resist her own horniness.

Yes?

[GroobyKrissy]

Jamie and Krissy should settle this with a hot oil wrestling match...the loser will get used and abused by a few audience members while the winner watches and laughs...but she winds up joining the fun, being unable to resist her own horniness.

Yes?

LoL. Never.Gonna.Happen. I'm racist and hate White people, remember? Just let it fuel your fantasies.

You're an intellectual though. What say you?

Ryz's comment "ironic" or not? "No Comment" is an acceptable answer given the circumstances. I'm just curious and you seem like a someone not afraid to give an honest answer.

[LilyRox]

Jamie and Krissy should settle this with a hot oil wrestling match...the loser will get used and abused by a few audience members while the winner watches and laughs...but she winds up joining the fun, being unable to resist her own horniness.

Yes?

Sounds like that ultimate surrender from kink.com

lol.

[EvaCassini]

Krissy, this is your quoted statement below. My point will be in red as answers.


Eva,

Let's be clear.

That has never come out of my mouth, nor will it ever, regardless of how heated things get between Jamie and I. I've only restated what was implied to explain the irony. -But you did say it. That guy didn't come back to explain himself. You made it known that you know what he was thinking and you seemed thrilled to put it out there under unknown conclusions.

I'm not excited at all. If Jamie's preening wasn't getting worse and worse, I would never have even entered into the conversation as Lily Rox seems determined to dig her own grave. -Why must you butt your nose into everything. It seems like you scope out mine and Jamie's posts just to ridicule us or in your own words "prove us wrong, because we are stupid". You are not a mod, a judge, Jesus, Buddha, Gandhi, Batman, V, or any other person real or fiction that can referee everyone and get hyped up on power like some tyrannical vigilante.

I get tired of seeing you both (as a unit) call other people stupid though when you've demonstrated a complete lack of self-awareness and stupidity yourselves. -Did I call anyone stupid? You seem to like calling us stupid.

Professionally, I think you two are both doing great things. Jamie is a talented and creative individual. You seem to have a blossoming career and I wish you the best in it - sincerely. Here though, you both get carried away in your own little worlds of being self-absorbed and need to be brought down to Earth once in a while. That is all. - I find it funny how you assume things about Jamie and I even though you don't truly know us, you should try to put down that axe and try to get to know us a bit better, you most likely would really like us as people. We don't get carried away unless it's a troll attacking girls like Franklin, or that douche Pantic. I've only gotten into it with a couple people because they fail to see who I am and where I come from. I'm not self-absorbed ( BTW isn't every Tranny a bit self absorbed being in porn anyway? )If you don't like it, ignore us, but since you haven't, clearly, you must really enjoy spitting in our face and enjoy being catty and infantile. By your continuity of posts, you look like you want to fight.

Am I supposed to be "scared" to see you February? Is that your point (of course not because of the smiley face, right?)? Real mature. - Uhhhh no. Why would you come to that conclusion? ( You jump to conclusions way too fast ) I am just excited to see you in Feb, have a few drinks and actually get to know eachother as people. Chat, booze, and schmooze. Because last awards, all I remember was that you sat near/around me and barely said anything. It was my first awards, so yes I was a bit nervous, but you could've broken the ice more so we could learn more and be friendly passed the point of "Hi, I'm Krissy"...Hi, I'm Eva, nice to meet you".

[nysprod]

Sounds like that ultimate surrender from kink.com

lol.

You'd be so perfect for that!

[LilyRox]

You'd be so perfect for that!

I'm not very good at fighting. I would probably lose :P

[nysprod]

I'm not very good at fighting. I would probably lose :P

Exactly...

[LilyRox]

Exactly...

Oh I would have my little ass ripped open by the winner then xD

[nysprod]

Oh I would have my little ass ripped open by the winner then xD

No, by me...and I'll spank you first...

[LilyRox]

No, by me...and I'll spank you first...

Oh I like spankings ;)

[GroobyKrissy]

Eva,
Since you seem wont to have an actual dialogue...

-But you did say it. That guy didn't come back to explain himself. You made it known that you know what he was thinking and you seemed thrilled to put it out there under unknown conclusions.
You can explain or restate something or someone's point of view without "owning" it. I stated plainly that I didn't agree with Ryz's sentiment before I explained it. Since it had not been understood, I even made a second post stating just how crude I thought the actual implication of the post was (i.e. - not just "ugly" but also "dude"). THAT is something to get angry about and something I would have supported wholeheartedly... regardless of who it is. Ultimately, I think Jamie is correct in stating that I gave him too much credit... as far as the "dude" portion went. I think he just wanted to say Jamie was "ugly".

It is a fair point that Ryz has not come back to explain himself. Let me explain. Can I ask... how many of Ryz's past comments did Jamie read before making her comment? How many of his have you read? Before I commented (because he made a similarly crude remark about Wendy Summers yesterday), I read 10 pages of his past comments. Clearly, this individual has a certain "type" of girl that he likes and clearly, Jamie does not fall into that category. Also, Ryz has a proven history of making short, crude comments like that demeaning girls. Look at his history and see for yourself. Given that, it is pretty easy to fully understand and make an "educated guess" as to what he meant with his post about Jamie's statement being ironic. I don't just post willy-nilly. I will do my due diligence and see if perhaps a person just made a stupid comment or if there is a history of it... to get the context of the person.

-Why must you butt your nose into everything. It seems like you scope out mine and Jamie's posts just to ridicule us or in your own words "prove us wrong, because we are stupid". You are not a mod, a judge, Jesus, Buddha, Gandhi, Batman, V, or any other person real or fiction that can referee everyone and get hyped up on power like some tyrannical vigilante.

First, let us agree that this is a PUBLIC forum. As such, any Member has the right to comment on ANYTHING. Can we come to agreement on that?

Second, since our last big blowup, I have not commented on either of you personally in any post, except to PROMOTE the post, yourselves, or to defend. GO CHECK THIS STATEMENT OUT FOR YOURSELF. In fact, if memory serves me correctly, I have since then, told two people that Jamie is the person to go to for help with Photoshop, and backed her up on one other occasion against someone else being stupid. So, to say I "butt...into everything" is just plain inaccurate.

The reason (which I've already stated) I entered into this thread is because it is tiresome to see someone tear someone else down and crow about how brilliant they are... when they're guilty of the exact same thing.

Jamie went on and on about how Lily Rox does not understand "irony," and went out of the way to make it sound like the poster (Ryz) as well as she, were stupid for having misused the term. THAT is what irritated me, given the fact that she (Jamie) failed to pick up on the ACTUAL irony that Ryz (wrongly) had implied. As I already stated, sometimes people just need to be brought to their knees and show a little humility... it happens to me... it happens to EVERYONE who is an adult.

I typically will only use terms on an equal basis. If someone calls someone else "stupid", in this case, "kid" takes the euphemism, then my feeling is that they should be able to handle the term used against them as well. That is just fair. So yes, I will call the both of you "stupid" because both of you seem to have any problem calling someone else stupid.

-Did I call anyone stupid? You seem to like calling us stupid.

See above statement.

There is a principle called, "guilty by association". Please quote me ONE instance where you have publicly disagreed (on a serious discussion) with Jamie or vice versa. It doesn't exist.

There is also a principle called, "tacit agreement". This means, if you don't disagree with someone, but rather defend them, then you have proven agreement. While the actual word "stupid" may not have come out of your mouth in this thread, it is tacit agreement with what has transpired before to post a "LMFAO", which is to say, you agree with Jamie's "points".

I find it funny how you assume things about Jamie and I even though you don't truly know us, you should try to put down that axe and try to get to know us a bit better, you most likely would really like us as people. We don't get carried away unless it's a troll attacking girls like Franklin, or that douche Pantic. I've only gotten into it with a couple people because they fail to see who I am and where I come from. I'm not self-absorbed ( BTW isn't every Tranny a bit self absorbed being in porn anyway? )If you don't like it, ignore us, but since you haven't, clearly, you must really enjoy spitting in our face and enjoy being catty and infantile. By your continuity of posts, you look like you want to fight.

I don't put any person on ignore here, even people I vehemently disagree with. That is a non-starter for me and something I just personally don't do.

Listen, professionally, I don't like or dislike you or Jamie. As I've already stated I have done (even since our last "discussion"), I will refer people to Jamie professionally because I know the work she does is of high quality and I would rather refer people to someone within the TS community than without. I have a proven track record of doing so.

This will be hard to hear so prepare for it. You are self-absorbed. Both of you are. I don't fault you for it, but you must realize that in being so... someone is going to come along every once in a while and cut you down to size.

I will share with you publicly something that I've to this point kept to myself. When Jamie/Tiffany/ and whoever else was involved (I don't remember) put out that "Need Rent Money" thread because of the robbery, I sent her/them all $100.00 via Paypal. I also defended them in the rather nasty thread.

No thanks back. Not one. LET ME STATE EMPHATICALLY, I don't care about that...I believe if you donate money to someone, it should be that... no strings attached, and I live by that principle. I'm sharing the anecdote to illustrate a point... It shows a certain amount of self-absorption and hubris to not send one quick email to someone and say, "Thanks... it helped".

- Uhhhh no. Why would you come to that conclusion? ( You jump to conclusions way too fast ) I am just excited to see you in Feb, have a few drinks and actually get to know eachother as people. Chat, booze, and schmooze. Because last awards, all I remember was that you sat near/around me and barely said anything. It was my first awards, so yes I was a bit nervous, but you could've broken the ice more so we could learn more and be friendly passed the point of "Hi, I'm Krissy"...Hi, I'm Eva, nice to meet you".

I don't believe I jump to conclusions. I simply draw conclusions based upon the history that I know and the facts presented in front of me. It is uncharacteristic to smiley face someone and say you'll be happy to see them, given our past encounters. It is also history that Jamie has stated pretty plainly to someone that she'll knock them out next time she sees them (or something to that effect). The two of you are a package deal. One translates to the other whether you admit it or not. I don't think it is a vast jump in logic to conclude a veiled threat... you obviously can't say it outright in this context. The smiley face softens the blow... because everyone knows smiley faces make everything you say before it OK.

OK, so let's talk about the Tranny Awards. Obviously you didn't know this so I will share it. My Boyfriend (then and current) flew across the country just for those two days to spend time with me. He was in attendance with me throughout the night and I did very little talking with ANYONE because he had never been to an event like that, and I felt a bit obligated to spend time and entertain him.

I think it would have been extremely rude for me to leave him in an uncomfortable environment (for him), not knowing anyone, while I go chat with industry peeps. I think I said two words to Seanchai during the entire night, barely spoke to the rest of the Grooby crew, and turned down a photo shoot that I really wanted to do with another Member here because of that fact. He was uncomfortable as it was and I was spending as much time as I could pointing out girls, explaining who they were, etc. etc. I was not engaged at all with "chatting" anybody up that night.

Why is/was it incumbent on me to "break the ice"?

See... this is what I'm talking about. Self-absorption. You immediately believe it is me... I should have broken the ice, I should get to know you, I should stop butting in, I should etc. etc. etc. Where is the responsibility on your part?

Believe me, I am MORE than willing to sit down, have a chat, and get to know somebody. I've just taken ten minutes to have a reasonable, thoughtful and non-name calling discussion, answer your points one by one, and am willing to continue.

That being said, I will escalate things as they are escalated against me. If you stop being reasonable, I will call you out for being so. If you start being "stupid", I will treat you as such. I'm not a carpet and more than capable of defending myself verbally against any person on this forum. And, quite frankly, I will do so if provoked.

So, I leave it to you. If you'd like to "get to know each other", I'm more than happy to let bygones be bygones and this goes for both of you. I stated as much several times in the last "discussion" and was ignored.

[Merkurie]

Ultimate Surrender is strangely hot.

[nysprod]

Oh I like spankings ;)

Panties down, over my knee...and i'm sure your cock will be getting hard as we proceed, so i'll stroke it in between smacking your bare ass...you'll show your gratitude by working your lips up and down my cock, and then you'll be fucked...hard.

[EvaCassini]

eva,
since you seem wont to have an actual dialogue...



tltr

[Jamie French]

You completely fabricated whatever it is that you think is ironic about Ryz's post. Appoint yourself the bringer of justice or whatever sanctimonious thing you think your doing all you want, it really doesn't diminish just how great I truly am. (That stings like a bitch don't it? The sheer audacity!) Just about anything I say is enough to tip your scales and drive you mad with riotous indignation... the amount of control you just gave me and my mere words makes me cum my skirt a little.


Anything to avoid admitting you're wrong, right?

It's not a "hero" complex. I could care less about Lily Rox... she is pretty much wrong in that instance.

What I dislike is you calling other people dumb and stupid, while preening yourself, all the while not realizing that you MISSED THE ACTUAL IRONY in the statement that started your little tirade. That is truly dumb if we're to believe you are as smart and clever as you say you are.

This isn't a "thing or two..." This is a pattern of behavior for you.

YOU CALL PEOPLE OUT ALL THE TIME YET YOU CAN'T HANDLE IT WHEN DONE TO YOU... ESPECIALLY WHEN (as in this case) YOU'RE CLEARLY WRONG.

I don't have to continue... or play... or whatever. It's a done deal. You were wrong and I doubt anybody who has read the thread and actually understands irony denies it (besides you and Eva). Like I said, I'm done here. Go back to saying how great you are.

[GroobyKrissy]

You completely fabricated whatever it is that you think is ironic about Ryz's post. Appoint yourself the bringer of justice or whatever sanctimonious thing you think your doing all you want, it really doesn't diminish just how great I truly am. (That stings like a bitch don't it? The sheer audacity!) Just about anything I say is enough to tip your scales and drive you mad with riotous indignation... the amount of control you just gave me and my mere words makes me cum my skirt a little.

AND... point proven.

Utterly childish, utterly delusional, utterly stupid.

So, what's next? I get Ryz to come here and say he finds you unattractive and/or ugly? What will you possibly say to that?

I don't know what in the hell you're talking about... control? You think you have some sort of "control"? Please. You're simply one more idiot unwilling to face themself in the mirror. I dwell on what I write here about as much as I dwell on what I spewed out into the toilet this morning. Get a grip... You don't even have control over your own childish mouth much less anyone else.

[EvaCassini]

you're simply one more idiot unwilling to face themself in the mirror. I dwell on what i write here about as much as i dwell on what i spewed out into the toilet this morning.

lmao

[GroobyKrissy]

lmao

So, somebody takes the time to write you back, thinking you may just be able to have an actual dialogue and you don't even read it.

What I just said about Jamie... pretty much the same for you.

Utterly childish. Utterly delusional. Utterly stupid.

Well, at least my reply is here for people to read. Completely reasonable and completely friendly. I think it stands as to who is leaving the petulant child with their fingers in their ears.

[EvaCassini]

So, somebody takes the time to write you back, thinking you may just be able to have an actual dialogue and you don't even read it.

What I just said about Jamie... pretty much the same for you.

Utterly childish. Utterly delusional. Utterly stupid.

Well, at least my reply is here for people to read. Completely reasonable and completely friendly. I think it stands as to who is leaving the petulant child with their fingers in their ears.

Uhhh no, I have no time to give back a really really really long reply, I'm flying out to SF in about an hour for 2 kink shoots.....so this "pointless-one sided discussion" is not as important as you think. I have big fish to fry, and BTW, don't expect a response from me for at least 1 week, that's how long I'll be gone...by that time this thread will prolly be dead...unless you consistently post to keep it alive lmao

[nysprod]

How about my hot oil wrestling idea between Jamie and Krissy...any feedback?

[Remy757Photog]

lol To go back on topic, I don't personally care whether guys wear sock or not on camera, unless the socks are smelly then they have to go!

FYI, I usually don't film so that it can be seen on camera, but sometimes when the guy is in a standing position he will have his shoes on for traction so he isn't sliding around on the floor.

[GroobyKrissy]

Uhhh no, I have no time to give back a really really really long reply, I'm flying out to SF in about an hour for 2 kink shoots.....so this "pointless-one sided discussion" is not as important as you think. I have big fish to fry, and BTW, don't expect a response from me for at least 1 week, that's how long I'll be gone...by that time this thread will prolly be dead...unless you consistently post to keep it alive lmao

Fair enough. Took me all of 30 seconds to read the entire post but I know that is a long time when you're trying to catch a flight.

It is really too bad you didn't read it, and probably won't (although I suspect that you did and didn't like what you read). You might have learned something.

Have fun frying your "big" fish. Going from, "I'm broke so now I'm escorting" to booking two WHOLE shoots must be an awesome feeling. Maybe you can buy yourself and Jamie some dignity with that cash!

[nysprod]

Uhhh no, I have no time to give back a really really really long reply, I'm flying out to SF in about an hour for 2 kink shoots.....so this "pointless-one sided discussion" is not as important as you think. I have big fish to fry, and BTW, don't expect a response from me for at least 1 week, that's how long I'll be gone...by that time this thread will prolly be dead...unless you consistently post to keep it alive lmao


Fair enough. Took me all of 30 seconds to read the entire post but I know that is a long time when you're trying to catch a flight.

It is really too bad you didn't read it, and probably won't (although I suspect that you did and didn't like what you read). You might have learned something.

Have fun frying your "big" fish. Going from, "I'm broke so now I'm escorting" to booking two WHOLE shoots must be an awesome feeling. Maybe you can buy yourself and Jamie some dignity with that cash!


With Eva out town, it'll be a perfect time to have that hot oil wrestling match between Krissy and Jamie...Remy757Photog can shoot the video and I'll take the stills...it's a great opportunity for you girls to settle your diffs and make a few bucks at the same time.

Let's do this!

[Jamie French]

As long as you keep angrily responding, yeah... I have power over you.


So, somebody takes the time to write you back, thinking you may just be able to have an actual dialogue and you don't even read it.

What I just said about Jamie... pretty much the same for you.

Utterly childish. Utterly delusional. Utterly stupid.

Well, at least my reply is here for people to read. Completely reasonable and completely friendly. I think it stands as to who is leaving the petulant child with their fingers in their ears.

[GroobyKrissy]

As long as you keep angrily responding, yeah... I have power over you.

Of course... exactly what a self-centered, self-absorbed, narcissist would say. It is all about you. Choices that other makes... about you.

Oh... one inconvenient truth.
Since our last "blow up" I haven't ONCE, until now, (negatively) inserted myself into a conversation of yours or Eva... NOT ONCE. I know you're lazy in addition to being stupid but just try... check my post history and verify that fact for yourself.

So, I guess that power you think you have... more like a watch battery.

It is not your actions that dictated mine here... it is your stupidity.

[GroobyKrissy]

As long as you keep angrily responding, yeah... I have power over you.

I'm going to put this in a separate post because I know you have a very short attention span and cannot grasp the concepts of paragraphs.

I'm not "angry".

Hard as it is to believe, I believe you can be very, very passionate in a discussion and not be "angry" (a skill that you most certainly lack - you should learn it... it makes discussions so much more fun!). My friends and I have dinners weekly where we discuss politics, religion, and just about everything else under the sun. We argue passionately and heatedly... and come out friends at the end... names and all.

I don't bear any ill will towards yourself or Eva. I just think your stupidity here, in this thread, needed to be addressed.

You have this thought that you're "controlling" vast amounts of my time and thoughts. You are not. I type very, very quickly. I organize my thoughts very, very efficiently. While I've been in this thread, I've edited about 1,200 pictures for my site, posted about 15 blog posts, watched Evil Dead (new one), watched a documentary on Pinball machines, eaten lunch, and etc. etc. Heck, I even took a short nap... and slept...just...fine.

You "control" nothing.

[Jericho]

By the logic displayed here, that means Ryz has power over all of ya'all! :hide-1:

[Prospero]

Very tedious thread IMHO... girls.. why not just agree to differ and move on

[nysprod]

Very tedious thread IMHO... girls.. why not just agree to differ and move on

Dear Prospero,

I have a complaint and since you're a mod, I feel as if you have a responsibility to respond:

I suggested a few posts back that Jamie and Krissy settle their diffs with a hot oil bikini wrestling match, with the loser getting abused by several audience members while the winner watches and laughs (don't worry, the winner will end up joining in too).

To this point I have gotten like zero feedback on this, which has left me feeling somewhat mystified...I just feel the idea has merit and should be taken under consideration.

Thanks, your pal nysprod.

[txjr3]

I'm with ya Nysprod. I like a catfight as much as the next guy, but jeez, these chicks need to hear the bell and end it. I think they're just arguing over the fact that they're arguing now.

[LibertyHarkness]

Back to OP .. I like guys to be average or inshape for videos ... the scene needs to be visually appealing at least :) and I do agree with some people when they say seeing muscle marys in all scenes is a touch unrealistic for alot of fans to relate to them being in the scene fucking you in their mindset when all they see is some ripped toned up guy ... as we all know the majority of male populace is not toned/muscular but infact just average built .

Myself I like toned guys , but for porn shoots as long as they are inproportion etc then tis all good.. and obviously if they are not super toned can alway keep them clothed for the scene and make a roleplay scene instead so its more fun than just 2 people fucking in a bed or on a couch again for the millionth time :)

[Jericho]

Myself I like toned guys , but for porn shoots as long as they are inproportion etc then tis all good.

That's me fukked then, init.
I'd have to be at least 8foot4! :shrug

[GroobyKrissy]

Very tedious thread IMHO... girls.. why not just agree to differ and move on

Well good morning all!

Have you read the thread?

I said I would do just that... RATHER NICELY. It was thrown back in my face... AGAIN.

I have always, with one exception that I remember, stated in heated discussions that I get involved with, when the discussion becomes pointless, that I would agree to let bygones be bygones and move on. This thread was no exception.

There is no "agreeing to differ" with someone who keeps hitting you with a baseball bat as you're walking away.

[tsadriana]

Does anyone watch ts porn for the guys??? :confused:
I watch ts porn for both ts and guys ..I saw few with Libby and i liked....But i think the porn industry should be more focused not only on the muscles pretty boys ,i know it does help for the image but not always.

[GroobyKrissy]

I'm with ya Nysprod. I like a catfight as much as the next guy, but jeez, these chicks need to hear the bell and end it. I think they're just arguing over the fact that they're arguing now.

And again... read the thread. There is no "argument" here.

A. Ryz said something Jamie said was ironic.
B. Jamie completely missed the (alleged - to be courteous) irony.
C. Jamie proceeded to make a big deal about this. Not only crowing about herself (which would have been fine), but then demeaning another Member and treating her as stupid, purposefully being a bully (Paraphrasing... Hey, I'm Jamie French... I can do anything and say anything).

D. I enter the conversation and point out Jamie is incorrect, and in fact, doesn't even recognize irony and when she is being insulted straight to her face and therefore should not be throwing around terms like "stupid" and etc.

E. Jamie can't handle the truth and blows up.
F. Eva jumps in... because... Eva+Jamie.
G. Eva starts, what I think may be an actual attempt at dialogue.
H. I respond in kind, nicely - with explanations to ALL her points.

I. My response is treated like trash.

Those are the facts.

The last two posts I made were for a specific reason, which a poster already made for me. It was to get a response, that is, Jamie saying back "See, I told you so". They were written purposefully with barbs for that intent. After that, it is a pretty easy response to then say,

"So... Ryz and Lily Rox have power over you?"

Another poster beat me to my punch.

I didn't know the shape of Male Pornstars would be such an interesting topic to GUYS on a porn forum! Maybe there is something to that whole, "gay" thing...