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mkfreesite
05-22-2006, 05:13 PM
:?
ok..i havnt been with that many escorts, but it seems that they prefer not to kiss..
what is the reasoning behind this?

zookeeper
05-22-2006, 05:22 PM
Could be any number of reasons...you ever see "Pretty Woman"? Seriously.

Also, and I'm not saying you're ugly, but they may not actually be attracted to you! Or, you may have bad breath. Or, she may have bad breath.

Vicki Richter
05-22-2006, 05:34 PM
Kissing is exchanging bodily fluids in a place where you can taste everything. It's very personal. You kind of have to do that with someone you kinda like. It's not like I am forcing guys to drink my breast milk so you shouldn't expect a total stranger to kiss you.

blahblahblah
05-22-2006, 05:38 PM
forcing guys to drink my breast milk

hmmm.....

Ecstatic
05-22-2006, 06:39 PM
Usually it's because an escort reserves kissing for her bf or so or at least someone she really likes; like Vicki says, it's very personal, and while sex is also very personal, they have to have sex with their clients (disclaimers about time aside) or they wouldn't make any money. So they reserve kissing.

hondarobot
05-22-2006, 07:28 PM
Kissing is exchanging bodily fluids in a place where you can taste everything. It's very personal. You kind of have to do that with someone you kinda like. It's not like I am forcing guys to drink my breast milk so you shouldn't expect a total stranger to kiss you.

Excellent point. Kissing is, in my opinion, far more intimate then sex, even. It's kind of like compairing communication via email or telephone with secret messages exchanged on a public internet forum.

Message boards: group sex parties

email: kissing or friendly communication

Not everyone understands this, but I'm always open to new ideas on anyones part and am a genuinely nice guy, so I'm more a fan of email. I'm kinda over the whole message board thing, not that there's anything wrong with it.

swimnn
05-22-2006, 08:34 PM
In my experiences (though not extensive) TS's are much more likely to kiss, even DFK, than GG's. I've had some great make-out sessions that got both of us rock-hard and ready to go.

Josh_in_L.A
05-22-2006, 08:37 PM
It makes me laugh when people say that kissing is so imtimate as I think the most intimate thing you can do is share the private parts of your body with someone.

It's amaizing how sex is considered "not so intimate" but kissing now is...lol

Samantha
05-22-2006, 08:48 PM
It makes me laugh when people say that kissing is so imtimate as I think the most intimate thing you can do is share the private parts of your body with someone.

It's amaizing how sex is considered "not so intimate" but kissing now is...lol

I think kissing is more intimate, just MHO though.

hondarobot
05-22-2006, 08:57 PM
It makes me laugh when people say that kissing is so imtimate as I think the most intimate thing you can do is share the private parts of your body with someone.

It's amaizing how sex is considered "not so intimate" but kissing now is...lol

I think kissing is more intimate, just MHO though.

Kissing is more intimate. Sex is generally just activity focused on achieving an orgasm, nothing wrong with that, but it can be done for a variety of reasons (mostly just for fun).

Kissing can be done on several levels. Friendly, making out, pre-sex, or beyond that. At the higher levels it's far more intimate than any other physical activity. People who have experienced this level know what I'm talking about.

Ooops, I think I just had another "I'm Leaving Hung Angels!" moment an hour ago. Maybe I'm just crabby. I think I'll go find some group sex party or something. . .

:!:

ARMANIXXX
05-22-2006, 10:29 PM
I agree with Josh.

I think its near absurd for you folks, or any folks for that matter to conjur the idea that sticking your peen in someone is somehow LESS intimate than kissing.

Sign o' the times I guess.

BeardedOne
05-22-2006, 10:36 PM
Ooops, I think I just had another "I'm Leaving Hung Angels!" moment an hour ago. Maybe I'm just crabby.

Stop thinking that shit, Honda! You know this is home. Yes, you're crabby. STFU. :P

But you know we luvz ya. :D

I always figured it was a given that escorts don't kiss, primarily because it separates the client from the friend/lover. Further, some don't fuck/get fucked, do oral, or whatever, for similar reasons. It's saved for someone closer to them than the last or next trick.

The first TS escort I was with surprised me with a tender goodbye kiss at the end of the night, but none during the session (Same again during a repeat performance). I've also been with a male escort that damn near raped my mouth with his tongue, turning the entire session into more of a true 'date' than an appointment. My third experience (With another TS) is still out for consideration (I never asked or tried to kiss her and vicey-versey, so I'm not sure what the exact rule is, but intend to ask next time that I see her).

It's something special, the true kiss, and the only way I'd expect it from an escort is if she genuinely liked me (Slim chance) or if I was paying mondo $$$ for the privelege.

sdman
05-22-2006, 10:55 PM
Kissing is exchanging bodily fluids in a place where you can taste everything. It's very personal. You kind of have to do that with someone you kinda like. It's not like I am forcing guys to drink my breast milk so you shouldn't expect a total stranger to kiss you.

Can you even produce breast milk? I bet you cant. And if you could I think a lot of guys would drink it.

BeardedOne
05-22-2006, 10:58 PM
Kissing is exchanging bodily fluids in a place where you can taste everything. It's very personal. You kind of have to do that with someone you kinda like. It's not like I am forcing guys to drink my breast milk so you shouldn't expect a total stranger to kiss you.

Can you even produce breast milk? I bet you cant. And if you could I think a lot of guys would drink it.

Don't mock.

It's been done.

And I would too. :D

hondarobot
05-22-2006, 10:59 PM
Hehe. . . I don't think of it as home so much as an online version of Rick's from Casablanca. Maybe even Mos Eisley from SW.

It's a strange place, but we all pop in from time to time.

BeardedOne
05-22-2006, 11:02 PM
Hehe. . . I don't think of it as home so much as an online version of Rick's from Casablanca. Maybe even Mos Eisley from SW.

It's a strange place, but we all pop in from time to time.

It's Callahan's.

You know it.

See the crack in the door?

hondarobot
05-22-2006, 11:14 PM
Ah, ya bastard, OK one more for today:

It's actually Danny The Street.

Let's see who get's that one. . .

Vicki Richter
05-22-2006, 11:29 PM
Kissing is exchanging bodily fluids in a place where you can taste everything. It's very personal. You kind of have to do that with someone you kinda like. It's not like I am forcing guys to drink my breast milk so you shouldn't expect a total stranger to kiss you.

Can you even produce breast milk? I bet you cant. And if you could I think a lot of guys would drink it.

It has been filmed in a Rogue Adventures and on Bob's site (or Shemale Strokers I can't remember). So yes I can and do.

hondarobot
05-22-2006, 11:45 PM
The scene is entitled "Goofy Girls With Big Lactating Boobs Gone Wild".

If you watch the secret additional footage at the end, there is a very erotic orgy following the main feature.

I think at a sex party, I'd be the guy constantly complaining about not having a glass of water. A day and half of sex would make a person kinda thirsty. . .I'm just saying.

blahblahblah
05-22-2006, 11:50 PM
Nobody kissed me as passionately as she did. Her kisses were healing. I can still feel them on my lips. All the other kisses, from the other girls seem and feel meaningless compared to her. They even got me to spend an entire vacation doing underwater welding under high pressure on an oil platform somewhere in the middle of Norwegian Sea. I sent every penny that i made to her, in order to help her. I lied to everyone else that i was spending my vacation somewhere on New Zealand instead. But, there is always a but. As many other TS people, she was a big puzzle. At times amazing, at times confusing, at times depressing, persistent as hell even if she was totally wrong, she drove me crazy. Yes, she knew how to kiss a man..

DallasDoll
05-23-2006, 12:44 AM
It's actually Danny The Street.

Let's see who get's that one. . .

No it's Danny the World!!!

Wow, I just registered solely to respond to that...! :o Mr Morrison would be soooo proud!

HeHateMe
05-23-2006, 01:00 AM
Dallas Doll, how do u like my avatar?

tsbrenda
05-23-2006, 01:00 AM
IF an escort kisses there considered a GFE
( GIRL FRIEND EXPERINCE=GFE) you'll find a discription in most escort review sites. they treat like a boyfriend and not like a customer, simple as that.
:D :D :P
they also have pse=porn star experince

and many others

ezed
05-23-2006, 06:22 AM
Ehhhh.....maybe you had and Italian sub and forgot to tell them to hold the onions....or shrimp scampi maybe?

RangeHova
05-23-2006, 06:58 AM
Why would anyone think that kissing being seen as more intimate is some kind of sign of the times? Look at vintage porn or even more recent older porn and though you can see some of the most out there sex acts, but actual kissing (especially deep kissing) has always been rare.

When you would see kissing it would be very restrained in most cases. It has been more free in girl girl scenes, but when it is a guy and a girl it often times looks very forced.

It's one of the things that surpised me about Brazilain porn. The kissing can be as hot as the sex.

As far as excorts go, it's one of those very old rules that are a part of 'the game'. Right up there with no fucking under the sheets and getting the money up front.

Vicki Richter
05-23-2006, 03:46 PM
I agree with Josh.

I think its near absurd for you folks, or any folks for that matter to conjur the idea that sticking your peen in someone is somehow LESS intimate than kissing.

Sign o' the times I guess.

Actually, this is very common in the mainstream adult entertainment industry as well as the TS genre. Some girls say "guys can only fuck my ass because my pussy is for my boyfriend". Some girls say, "guys can fuck me, cum in me, cum on me, but kissing is for my boyfriend". It is an adult sex workers way of salvaging something special for their significant other since everything else. Sure it's a mental thing to take two guys dick in your ass but still turn around and have something that your boyfriend still feels is just for you and him. Just because we're sex workers doesn't mean that we don't have feelings and want that form of intamacy.

How exactly do you expect a sex worker who has sex with hundreds of strange people over a 5 or 10 year career to view sex as intimate? I think transsexuals are lucky because if we do go post-op, we kind of get a do-over.

Ecstatic
05-24-2006, 12:59 AM
Ah, ya bastard, OK one more for today:

It's actually Danny The Street.

Let's see who get's that one. . .
Danny the Street is a transgendered entity in the form of a street, who freely travels the world and inserts himself into any city as one of its streets for a time and who volunteered to be the Doom Patrol's movable headquarters. Morrison named him after Danny La Rue, transvestite entertainer ("La Rue" is French for "the Street"). Morrison has quite a thing for transgendered characters, actually....

Ecstatic
05-24-2006, 01:10 AM
IF an escort kisses there considered a GFE
( GIRL FRIEND EXPERINCE=GFE) you'll find a discription in most escort review sites. they treat like a boyfriend and not like a customer, simple as that.
:D :D :P
they also have pse=porn star experince

and many others
This is a commonly accepted definition of GFE, but I think it's too narrowly defined. There's so much more that makes for a true GFE, and the mechanics of that are too varied to be limited to whether she kisses or not. I have been with escorts who started in with DFK right from the beginning, and while it was great, it was also, for all its intensity, obviously superficial, the girl simply using kissing as one of her techniques. Yes, a nice technique, but still devoid of any emotion or involvement. On the other hand, a simple lip-to-lip kiss from a girl who doesn't often kiss her clients means a whole lot more, telling you that she thinks highly enough of you to kiss you.

hondarobot
05-24-2006, 02:42 AM
"Just because we're sex workers doesn't mean that we don't have feelings and want that form of intamacy.

How exactly do you expect a sex worker who has sex with hundreds of strange people over a 5 or 10 year career to view sex as intimate? I think transsexuals are lucky because if we do go post-op, we kind of get a do-over."

I think that was one of the sweetest things I've ever read.

I don't think SRS is something a girl should do because she needs a "do over", but I think it's a beautiful thing that a girl would want to present her man someday with something just for him. I do think SRS is still being perfected and that may take many years. Girls should be patient now and happy with how they are, while looking towards the future.

I also don't think girls in the "biz" now should think they ever need to apologize, explain or make ammends for anything to anyone. Sex in most cases is just sex, it's like most things people do.

But I still think this was a very beautiful post.

Whoops, the quote thingy didn't work out in my preview just now, so I'll add the quotation marks. I'm still figuring a lot of this stuff out.

:)

ARMANIXXX
05-24-2006, 05:35 PM
RangeHova said,

Why would anyone think that kissing being seen as more intimate is some kind of sign of the times? Look at vintage porn or even more recent older porn and though you can see some of the most out there sex acts, but actual kissing (especially deep kissing) has always been rare.

When you would see kissing it would be very restrained in most cases. It has been more free in girl girl scenes, but when it is a guy and a girl it often times looks very forced.

It's one of the things that surpised me about Brazilain porn. The kissing can be as hot as the sex.

As far as excorts go, it's one of those very old rules that are a part of 'the game'. Right up there with no fucking under the sheets and getting the money up front.





Vicki Richter said,

Actually, this is very common in the mainstream adult entertainment industry as well as the TS genre. Some girls say "guys can only fuck my ass because my pussy is for my boyfriend". Some girls say, "guys can fuck me, cum in me, cum on me, but kissing is for my boyfriend". It is an adult sex workers way of salvaging something special for their significant other since everything else. Sure it's a mental thing to take two guys dick in your ass but still turn around and have something that your boyfriend still feels is just for you and him. Just because we're sex workers doesn't mean that we don't have feelings and want that form of intamacy.

How exactly do you expect a sex worker who has sex with hundreds of strange people over a 5 or 10 year career to view sex as intimate? I think transsexuals are lucky because if we do go post-op, we kind of get a do-over.




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Yes, I understand that sex is so common with sex workers that they've simply become "numb" with the act itself. Still, in the real world, real world away from porn and/or escorting, Sex is still the most intimate act I can think of.......allegedly......and imo.

BeardedOne
05-24-2006, 06:33 PM
On the other hand, a simple lip-to-lip kiss from a girl who doesn't often kiss her clients means a whole lot more, telling you that she thinks highly enough of you to kiss you.

Oh, my! :shock:

That answers a question I've had about a couple of my 'dates' a while back. Interesting.

RangeHova
05-24-2006, 11:48 PM
[b][color=blue]Still, in the real world, real world away from porn and/or escorting, Sex is still the most intimate act I can think of.......allegedly......and imo.

But we are talking about escorts here. The reality of an escort is very different than your typical nine to fiver.

They have to deal with shit that we couldn't ever imagine. Be it with society, themselves, thier own self image, to how tricks treat them. A lot of the so called rules are in palce to keep some level of power over people who just want to use them and pound away in and on thier bodies. Boundaries MUST be set when you are letting stranger after starnger go to such places with you and your body.

The so called real world is not thier world. And if we are going to discuss them i think we need to look at it from thier very unique perspective, or at least try to.

slinky
05-28-2006, 12:59 AM
Most working girls don't kiss mostly for one reason:

Someone has told them working girls don't kiss. So they don't.

Plenty do.

Friedrich_Nietzsche
05-28-2006, 11:23 PM
It makes me laugh when people say that kissing is so imtimate as I think the most intimate thing you can do is share the private parts of your body with someone.

It's amaizing how sex is considered "not so intimate" but kissing now is...lol

I think kissing is more intimate, just MHO though.

Kissing is more intimate. Sex is generally just activity focused on achieving an orgasm, nothing wrong with that, but it can be done for a variety of reasons (mostly just for fun).

Kissing can be done on several levels. Friendly, making out, pre-sex, or beyond that. At the higher levels it's far more intimate than any other physical activity. People who have experienced this level know what I'm talking about.

Ooops, I think I just had another "I'm Leaving Hung Angels!" moment an hour ago. Maybe I'm just crabby. I think I'll go find some group sex party or something. . .

:!:

Excuse me...
You mean that if you had to choose, you'd prefer your gf or wife to get fucked by a stranger than getting kissed?

:shock: :shock: :shock:

ezed
05-29-2006, 06:54 AM
Relax Sigmund Freud! Don't get too deep. It's a forum with threads where people type off quick responses to have fun not type thesis which are impeneratable to attacks. You sound like Dr. Malfi. Go out and get laid or something!

tsntx
05-30-2006, 09:34 AM
It makes me laugh when people say that kissing is so imtimate as I think the most intimate thing you can do is share the private parts of your body with someone.

It's amaizing how sex is considered "not so intimate" but kissing now is...lol

i also think kissing can be more intimate then sex... when my ex and i were seperated for the 2yrs we were having sex we almost never kissed and when we did it was soooo much more exciting for both of us and made our sex that much more intimate....

mistletoe can be deadly if you eat it... but a kiss is even deadlier if you mean it.. greatest line in a movie ever... despite where it came from

hondarobot
05-30-2006, 10:37 AM
Hehe. . . "kiss"


Good thread



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