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mkfreesite
05-22-2006, 06:03 AM
does anyone know what the ratio is of shemales that do escort verses shemales that do not escort and stay in a monogomous relationship?
from the little knowledge that i have learned within the past month of shemales, it seems a majority escort?
true or false?

plainBob
05-22-2006, 06:05 AM
I'd say false. But than agin i could be wroung

mkfreesite
05-22-2006, 06:06 AM
I'd say false. But than agin i could be wroung
i see i see..
i mean, in the genetic female world a small percentage are escorting or in porn, seems the opposite in the shemale world..

JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel
05-22-2006, 06:10 AM
there's a small percentage of girls that say they don't escort...........................
but I think that means they don't post ads in eros, CL, VillageVoice, etc.

YasminLee
05-22-2006, 06:50 AM
Most ts are escorts sweetie.i would say at least 90%. When a # is this high..u have to wonder why? it's a balance of power for most..ts are forced and push by society to the bottom..making a living becomes even more difficult in an already competitive market...most of us are tire of fighting..subconciously we do what any human would...find the easy way out in order to survive..that's in our gene...then there's love...a universal quest..there is no denying that love in the guys in a ts relationship is very uncommon...most guys do not want to suffer the wrath of "transsexualism" They want in for the fun and then out...Ts will will learn about this at a very early stage in their transition...and so the balance of power..Most decide not to be used and make arrangement for guys that wanna engage with them...after a while..it's routine and becomes a lifestyle...and so i think...at least i can confirm this for myself and all of my friends....

Felicia Katt
05-22-2006, 07:13 AM
but I think that means they don't post ads in eros, CL, VillageVoice, etc.
I have my ad in Cat Fancy LOL

You guys are only meeting a very small subset of the TS world. Most TS girls are in the mainstream, not the "scene".

FK

mkfreesite
05-22-2006, 07:21 AM
Most ts are escorts sweetie.i would say at least 90%. When a # is this high..u have to wonder why? it's a balance of power for most..ts are forced and push by society to the bottom..making a living becomes even more difficult in an already competitive market...most of us are tire of fighting..subconciously we do what any human would...find the easy way out in order to survive..that's in our gene...then there's love...a universal quest..there is no denying that love in the guys in a ts relationship is very uncommon...most guys do not want to suffer the wrath of "transsexualism" They want in for the fun and then out...Ts will will learn about this at a very early stage in their transition...and so the balance of power..Most decide not to be used and make arrangement for guys that wanna engage with them...after a while..it's routine and becomes a lifestyle...and so i think...at least i can confirm this for myself and all of my friends....

seems like you speak from expeirence..
i mean i've dated only women, but i would love to date a ts...but i guess w/ that she's er..he's acutally a dude at the end and is a honry machine...trust i guess would be an issue?
like i said, im pretty new to this whole shemale thing so just wondering the whole pros/cons in trying to date a shemale..

JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel
05-22-2006, 08:19 AM
I agree with Mega on alot of those points, with the exception of GG's thinking with their hearts, there's a LOT of GG bitches out there running through men like Poland Spring water bottles...............

My advice to you would be "Don't waste your time............" and I know I'll get cussed out in private messages and on yahoo/aim for saying it but it's the truth..........

You'll hunt for a good girl and find her but you won't factor in her asshole friends that are in "misery loves company" mode and tell her to hit this joint or snort this *whateva* and forget about HIM because he won't take care of you, pay your bills, etc.........
That's the line of lines IMO, and these girls fall for it because their so-called friends are telling them the shit not realizing that they are losing out in the long run.

Trust me on this, you'll get a phonecall & hear every once in a while with shit like this on the other end "oh & I am giving up drugs, and I am single right now" translation: I'm not taking anything for the duration of this phonecall with you and my man is at work (LMAO) and some guys are gullible enough to fall for bullshit like that, others read this board and learn to see right through it.............................anyway

A very good friend of mine who is a TS and is on this board said something to me one night and I think it's worth sharing because once she said it I opened my eyes and began to believe it. She told me that "the girls are very territorial!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!."

At 1st I thought that was crap but now I know it's the truth. Like Mega said these "girls" [most of you not all of you] will always have that male "possesive" quality; that will never go away no matter how many hormone shots you take. Men HATE for someone they are with to get/give attention to anyone else for too long, drives us nuts..................... The girls are no different, possibly even worse, because we forget that the girls in the life are in a small group and most of the time know each others business (or think they do) through gossip.................... The last thing they ever want to see is a guy talking to someone they know of in the life, most of them will act up just on that.......
I bring it up because its something to consider when talking about escort vs. non escort girls, no matter what they do if they provide or don't the circle is a small one, so the minute you leave one girl alone, the rest of them already know, or will know about you...............

sorry if I wrote a book, just a good topic

hwbs
05-22-2006, 08:42 AM
quote :Trust me on this, you'll get a phonecall & hear every once in a while with shit like this on the other end "oh & I am giving up drugs, and I am single right now" translation: I'm not taking anything for the duration of this phonecall with you and my man is at work (LMAO) and some guys are gullible enough to fall for bullshit like that, others read this board and learn to see right through it.............................anyway




yes i recieved one of these calls the other night....nice girl , but i refer to the above :lol:

Trogdor
05-22-2006, 09:14 AM
I agree with Mega on alot of those points, with the exception of GG's thinking with their hearts, there's a LOT of GG bitches out there running through men like Poland Spring water bottles...............

Oh, so true.

To this day, I hold anyone with a vagina under a sort of probabtion when i meet em. since I been hurt and backstabbed way too many times since i was 14. :P

TomSelis
05-22-2006, 01:44 PM
I don't think it's true that most girls escort. The ones that are most visible do though. The ones that don't usually don't look as good or are living in stealth. It's a catch-22 and if you live out in the middle of nowhere, that's usually what you're exposed to, the ones you see on the internet.

YasminLee
05-22-2006, 02:46 PM
U LOST A LOT OF RESPECT FROM ME ASSUMING WE ARE LAZY MEGA.. TRY BEING ON HORMONES THAT SUPRESS YOUR SEXUAL DESIRE,,STAYING HARD FOR 4 TO 5 HOURS SHOOTING A SCENE..IF THAT'S NOT HARD WORK..WELL U GOT ME...OR BETTER YET...SEEING 10 GUYS A DAY SOMETIMES.. MOST U DON'T WANT TO BE TOUCH BY....BUT U PLAY THE PART FOR THE TIME PAID..NOT TO MENTION THE RISK OF GETTING HURT AND OR KILLED MEETING STRANGERS. .90% IS A REALLY LARGE PERCENTAGE FOR A MENTAL DISFUNCTION...YES U MIGHT BE LOOKING FOR LTR AND KNOW A FEW BUDDIES..SO WHAT. MOST GUYS THAT REALIZE THAT THEY MIGHT WANT A LTR ARE GUYS THAT LIVE HALF THEIR LIFE FIGURING IF THEY DO OR NOT..AVERAGE IS WHAT AGE NOW 40 AND UP? AND WHAT DOES THESE 40+ GUYS LOOK FOR? GIRLS IN THEIR 20s FOR THE MOST PART....U JUST HAPPEN TO BOND WITH SOME GUYS WITH THE SAME INTEREST. THAT DOES NOT GIVE U CREDIBILITY TO ASSUME THAT THE GIRLS ARE TO BLAME... MOST GUYS DO NOT WANT US LONG TERM. I TRANSITION FEELING THERE'S A GREAT CHANCE I WILL LIVE A LONELY LIFE..I DIDN'T JUST ONE DAY START HORMONES..I WAS AROUND THE GIRLS AND LIVE THROUGH THEM FOR 7YEARS BEFORE I START MY HORMONES....DO U WANT ME TO THE APPOLIGIZE TO THE WORLD THAT I FEAR DISCRIMINATION AND QUITE MY CAREER? I WAS AFRAID DAMIT...STILL AM...YEARS PASS AND U KINDA JUST LEARN FROM EXPERIENCES WITH THE GUYS..I RATHER DIE THEN TO LET SOMEONE BREAK MY HEART ONE MORE TIME...CALL ME LAZY IF U WANT...I JUST DON'T WANNA FIGHT ANYMORE....ENJOY MY NEXT VIDEO...

BlackAdder
05-22-2006, 02:54 PM
I WAS AFRAID DAMIT...STILL AM...YEARS PASS AND U KINDA JUST LEARN FROM EXPERIENCES WITH THE GUYS..I RATHER DIE THEN TO LET SOMEONE BREAK MY HEART ONE MORE TIME...CALL ME LAZY IF U WANT...I JUST DON'T WANNA FIGHT ANYMORE....ENJOY MY NEXT VIDEO...




And you both raise alot of good points Yasmin...Heres the thing though, when you fall off the horse and dont get back on...you might as well just die because life stops at the point you stop caring/trying.....Weve all had our hearts broken by thoughtless and careless people, but I cant imagine just giving up and not being open to the possibility that the next one I meet might finally be the one for me.

Remember, Fear is the Mind Killer....

YasminLee
05-22-2006, 03:02 PM
IM NOT TALKING ABOUT FALLING AND GETTING UP ON THAT HORSE SWEETIE...\ FIGURE AFTER CONSTANTLY FALLING COUNTLESS TIME IT'S ABOUT TIME I LEARN MY LESSON AND NOT BE ON THAT HORSE IN THE FIRST PLACE...I HAVE NO WAY TO LIVE MY LIFE AND TELL IT OTHER THROUGH MY LESSONS LEARN...THE LAST TIME I WENT TO AN TS ADVOCATE MEETING...I DIDN'T SEE ONE GUY THERE..THEY'RE NOT PICKING THE APPLES...THEY'RE JUST WAITING TO BUY ONE FOR THE BITE

houstonshemalefan
05-22-2006, 03:09 PM
OK HERE GOES ......blah, blah, blah....THEY WONTT SEE IT BUIT MONEY CAN BUY THEM........

Dude, you've got some serious issues! I'm sorry you were jaded by an escort but get over it. Just because some TS left you for a "sugar daddy" type doesn't mean you should take it out on all the TS's or the lifestyle!!

These escort ladies/TS provide a service that most men wouldn't get elsewhere. I see escorts both women and TS and it's only because I need to satisfy a strong and perverse sexual appetite without having to deal with any "relationship bullshit" that comes along with it. I am fortunate enough to be in good shape and a handsome individual and have had numerous escorts compliment me and that are actually happy to see me because it makes it even easier for them.

I have tremendous respect for all escorts as they have to put up with a lot of not so handsome clients and still play the part.

YasminLee
05-22-2006, 03:12 PM
I HAD A CAREER...I'M WONDERING NOW IF THE MEN GO THROUGH WOULD THEY HAVE THE STRENGTH TO KEEP ON GOING...I DARE ALL U ASSHOLES THAT BELEIVE WHAT MEGA SAY TO LIVE ONE MONTH AS A WOMAN..I'LL DONATE MY WIGS TO THIS CAUSE..SEE WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH YOUR FAMILY,FRIENDS,, WORK,,,AND FINDING WORK...WHEN U'RE DONE FEELING WHAT WE WENT THROUGH THEN FEEL FREE TO GIVE THE GIRLS AND APPOLOGY...

Onyx
05-22-2006, 03:13 PM
AYE PLEASE IM NOT LIKE THE OTHER GIRLS, IM GOIN BACK TO SCHOOL IN SEPTEMBER!!!!!!!


HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU HEARD THAT SHIT!!!!!!!

so... you bought an escort looking for a long relationship? lol

YasminLee
05-22-2006, 03:16 PM
I THINK MARK TWAIN SAYS THIS. (NOT EXACT WORD)."A MAN DON'T PAY FOR SEX, HE PAYS FOR HER TO GO AWAY AFTER SEX)

Onyx
05-22-2006, 03:24 PM
Yasmin, you put this so well. Most people have a very linear path in life; school, dating, work, marriage, etc. TS's however can take none of those things for granted the way most GG's do. But many guys want to possess us, want us to be the "the girl next door", etc. Like we should pretend that all of our struggles never took place, just to make them feel they "rescued" us. Sorry, fellas, but most of us rescued ourselves way before you ever entered the picture.

exactly. it's not the TS escorts that are dillusional, it's the men who pay for them expecting a long term relationship, or better yet how you put it "ownership"

mkfreesite
05-22-2006, 05:03 PM
I THINK MARK TWAIN SAYS THIS. (NOT EXACT WORD)."A MAN DON'T PAY FOR SEX, HE PAYS FOR HER TO GO AWAY AFTER SEX)


so your saying you've tried to stay in several long term relations but ended up just being hurt and have given up love ?
maybe im being too personal but how old are you now?
im 23 and i enjoy being in long term relations but i can understand the neg. stigma being with a shemale in today's society would be..
but from what i have learned seems like most shemales want to party and have fun..
im want to have all that and a bag of chips but i think trust would be a big factor once a girl was an escort and then trying to train her to be monogomous..

houstonshemalefan
05-22-2006, 05:40 PM
I THINK MARK TWAIN SAYS THIS. (NOT EXACT WORD)."A MAN DON'T PAY FOR SEX, HE PAYS FOR HER TO GO AWAY AFTER SEX)

Sooo very, very true!

RawNY
05-22-2006, 06:01 PM
Please permit me to chime in here.
As the saying goes, don't judge me until you have walked a mile in my shoes. I think that Yasmin and Ariana have made a very important point, that being that no man, no matter how sensitive he thinks he is, can judge a TG unless and until he himself has suffered through the trauma, emotional and physical, that she has.
I had this discussion years ago with several TGs in a Yahoo chat room. And yes I knew they were TG having met them in person.
A TG cannot approach a relationship with a man in a traditional sense. A woman can make a guy wait until the third date to get intimate, a TG can't. The man would bolt. How many "sensitive" men can sit and listen to her life story and show compassion if all they can think about is seeing her cock?
Yes, I know my name says I am a "rookie poster." However, with the exception of certain guys, I proably have more experience as a purly male friend to TG women than almost anyone here. As gay and lesbian men and women seek acceptance from mainstream society and the right to marry, many who judge them have come to understandf that gay and lesbian men and women can have the same type of meaningful and momogamous long term relationship as hetrosexual couples (which is funny given that 50% of those end in divorce.)
While the same thing must happen to TG before there is more acceptance in society, it wil be even harder to gain that acceptance because 1) they have either changed their gender or show signs of confusion, or 2) they have not shown themself to be interested ot nto a momogamous relationship.
Building on that, read the treads about those who find someone they love and who apparently loves them but will not introduce them to their family or friends. If these guys talk the talk, let them walk the walk.
Most of the posts here are about how how some TG is, how someone wants to fuck her or suck her or spend the night. Until men get real and come to terms with their own sexuality then they will be stuck with esorts and shout shut the fuck up.

BlackAdder
05-22-2006, 06:48 PM
"A woman can make a guy wait until the third date to get intimate, a TG can't. The man would bolt"

Umm...thats bullshit...I really dont think you know what your talking about. A guy that would bolt on a TG like that will do it to anyone...GG, TG, male...doesnt make a difference.


@Yasmin The burnout on men Im hearing from you Yasmin is very similar to the two TG girls i do know on a personal level.....Still both single as well. And ive heard the same thing from good looking GG's as well no matter the age....I dont think its a GG or TG thing at all anymore, but rather a symptom of how male society is today. That and the fact that women tend to be drawn to men that are bad for them over and over again, and wind up getting screwed up mentally and emotionally to the point where when a decent compatible guy does come along, they find some way of messing it up either through fear of committment or even manufacturing problems in the relationship....Or there abused and are so used to abuse its all they think they deserve and cant be comfortable in a normal relationship.......

OOoo......that was rant-like...my apologies Yasmin, but its a sensitive topic for me right now:(

Ecstatic
05-22-2006, 06:51 PM
To address the orginal question, first consider that there are approximately 60,000 M2F TS in the US today. Most of these do not escort. However, as someone said above, the most visible do. We tend to only see those TS who are working (either in porn or escorting); the rest are unknown to most. Yet it is also true that many TS who do not escort are older (30, 40, 50 y.o.) who have transistioned and are struggling to lead lives as women, but who do not have either the looks or the youth of the average TS escort (20-30 y.o.); these could not successfully escort if they wanted to. Instead, they have saved money in some other fashion to eventually transition.

Onyx
05-22-2006, 06:56 PM
Please permit me to chime in here.
As the saying goes, don't judge me until you have walked a mile in my shoes. I think that Yasmin and Ariana have made a very important point, that being that no man, no matter how sensitive he thinks he is, can judge a TG unless and until he himself has suffered through the trauma, emotional and physical, that she has.
I had this discussion years ago with several TGs in a Yahoo chat room. And yes I knew they were TG having met them in person.
A TG cannot approach a relationship with a man in a traditional sense. A woman can make a guy wait until the third date to get intimate, a TG can't. The man would bolt. How many "sensitive" men can sit and listen to her life story and show compassion if all they can think about is seeing her cock?
Yes, I know my name says I am a "rookie poster." However, with the exception of certain guys, I proably have more experience as a purly male friend to TG women than almost anyone here. As gay and lesbian men and women seek acceptance from mainstream society and the right to marry, many who judge them have come to understandf that gay and lesbian men and women can have the same type of meaningful and momogamous long term relationship as hetrosexual couples (which is funny given that 50% of those end in divorce.)
While the same thing must happen to TG before there is more acceptance in society, it wil be even harder to gain that acceptance because 1) they have either changed their gender or show signs of confusion, or 2) they have not shown themself to be interested ot nto a momogamous relationship.
Building on that, read the treads about those who find someone they love and who apparently loves them but will not introduce them to their family or friends. If these guys talk the talk, let them walk the walk.
Most of the posts here are about how how some TG is, how someone wants to fuck her or suck her or spend the night. Until men get real and come to terms with their own sexuality then they will be stuck with esorts and shout shut the fuck up.

I somewhat agree with you, but then again....

any TS who's going to escort herself, automatically you know they've got some self-esteem problems and possibly some self-respect problems as well.

I know this doesn't go for everyone, but that's where the mentality that every man just wants sex comes from. You surround yourself with perverted motherfuckers, you're going to start to generalize.

JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel
05-22-2006, 07:27 PM
any TS who's going to escort herself, automatically you know they've got some self-esteem problems and possibly some self-respect problems as well.

I know this doesn't go for everyone, but that's where the mentality that every man just wants sex comes from. You surround yourself with perverted motherfuckers, you're going to start to generalize.

valid point to an extent

look the fact of the matter is until you can reply in a message to me that you've been hit on by countless TS' who you never thought of approaching only to play the game they created and go through the phone calls and the lies and the other bullshit (i.e. the transition of a great day to a shitty day in a matter of hours) then it's unfair to call anyone out. Mega spoke on some shit that I can guarantee at least 5 other guys on this board I know personally have heard from the "tri-state" girls...........not all of them, but some of them. So when he vents it out on this board [our sanctuary] it shouldn't be hard to believe.................

Yasmine also made a valid point when she said
TRY BEING ON HORMONES THAT SUPRESS YOUR SEXUAL DESIRE,,STAYING HARD FOR 4 TO 5 HOURS SHOOTING A SCENE..IF THAT'S NOT HARD WORK..WELL U GOT ME...OR BETTER YET...SEEING 10 GUYS A DAY SOMETIMES.. MOST U DON'T WANT TO BE TOUCH BY....BUT U PLAY THE PART FOR THE TIME PAID..

and I applaud her for stating that, I just wish other women outside of this site would admit to that shit so that the guys they talk to on the phone or in the passenger seat while they get a ride home at least get to hear that and make a decision whether or not to persue the thing.............

for those of you that don't know how it goes down I'll throw a scenario out there for you
guy goes to a club with alot of TS', frequents the club, eventually a friend of the guy will have a TS around him/her who will talk about hanging out elsewhere if it's cool with you; now if you're one of those 20+ year old kids and you get approached this way you might still be naive about it and not factor in things like what Yasmine said because you don't know then when you make that phonecall and get the voicemail or see her in that club and she hasn't got time to say more than "hi" to you because she needs "coins" for that drug fix or that rent money, you'll be lost,dazed, & confused................ some of these guys may think they are at fault, and they aren't.........................

hope I didn't offend anyone I'm just putting it out there so hopefully I can save at least one of the youngbucks the time & stress

and this is not in every town, I can't speak for anywhere else BUT NYC, so judge for yourself

Onyx
05-22-2006, 07:53 PM
TRY BEING ON HORMONES THAT SUPRESS YOUR SEXUAL DESIRE,,STAYING HARD FOR 4 TO 5 HOURS SHOOTING A SCENE..IF THAT'S NOT HARD WORK..WELL U GOT ME...OR BETTER YET...SEEING 10 GUYS A DAY SOMETIMES.. MOST U DON'T WANT TO BE TOUCH BY....BUT U PLAY THE PART FOR THE TIME PAID..

I don't doubt that the work can be grueling, but you put yourself in that position. If you don't enjoy the work, do you really have that much trouble finding another job?

hwbs
05-22-2006, 08:45 PM
ohh boy i feel something brewing....time to get off the short bus , hehe....this stuff has been discussed way too many times......trannies are from venus and men are from jurassic park, lmfao

Onyx
05-22-2006, 08:48 PM
ohh boy i feel something brewing....time to get off the short bus , hehe....this stuff has been discussed way too many times......trannies are from venus and men are from jurassic park, lmfao

I really don't feel that way at all

hwbs
05-22-2006, 09:13 PM
i was referring to myself and how this topic has been browbeaten to death....i think u need to walk in the other persons shoes b4 u can pass judgement on a whole community....

Onyx
05-22-2006, 09:41 PM
i was referring to myself and how this topic has been browbeaten to death....i think u need to walk in the other persons shoes b4 u can pass judgement on a whole community....

I'm not passing judgement so much as stating the facts, I don't mean to knock anyones hustle

Quinn
05-22-2006, 09:45 PM
They [guys] want in for the fun and then out...Ts will will learn about this at a very early stage in their transition...and so the balance of power..Most decide not to be used and make arrangement for guys that wanna engage with them...after a while..it's routine and becomes a lifestyle...and so i think...at least i can confirm this for myself and all of my friends....


MOST GUYS DO NOT WANT US LONG TERM. . . YEARS PASS AND U KINDA JUST LEARN FROM EXPERIENCES WITH THE GUYS..I RATHER DIE THEN TO LET SOMEONE BREAK MY HEART ONE MORE TIME.

It’s been my experience that some version of the “guys just use us” perspective is common to all women that escort (TS or GG). The explanation for the existence of this “phenomenon” may differ slightly with each woman, but the underlying reasoning is invariably the same. It’s an opinion formed after they experience numerous failed relationships.

I have no doubt that this will anger some people, which honestly isn’t my intention, but I think it needs to be said. So far as the vast majority of escorts are concerned, it’s their own fault. I say this not because they are escorts – which, frankly, isn’t a big deal in and of itself – but because of the culture that tends to accompany any form of escorting (from high-end all the way down to strippers who do “side work”).

There’s something that happens to women after they escort for a while. The creative license that is a necessary part of their work gradually makes its way into every aspect of their lives. Everything, no matter how well-intended, usually becomes a scam, an angle, or part of some ultimately fraudulent representation. Even when dealing with someone that they truly care about, escorts tend to occupy themselves with schemes entailing numerous forms of manipulation. In short, manipulation, lying, and deception become a way of life.

As with anything involving broad generalizations, there are obviously exceptions, but it has been my experience that, with reference to this issue, they are few and far between. For more than 14 years, I have had exposure to escorts – and not as a client or lover (well, once as a lover). I’ve bounced for them at parties, and I’ve provided protection for the high-end types. In all that time, only one of them ever stood out as being even a marginal exception to the rule. Out of the many others that I have dealt with, none were trustworthy enough to merit consideration for a relationship, which is the primary reason why most of them never “find true love.” At the end of the day, a man wants a woman that he can trust – and keep in mind that I am referring to far more than questions of fidelity.

-Quinn

BeardedOne
05-22-2006, 10:09 PM
i was referring to myself and how this topic has been browbeaten to death....i think u need to walk in the other persons shoes b4 u can pass judgement on a whole community....

This thread has moved faster than I can read it (A very rare treat, indeed) and I've heard my own voice speaking from some of the posts.

That's just plain scary. :shock:

I don't know if it'll be a rant, a whine, or a story about the stray cats on my porch, but it's coming.

I just need to digest some more of this before I start typing out random characters.

As for the shoe thing:

Don't judge someone until you walk a mile in their shoes...Then you're a mile away and you've got their shoes.

:wink:

Onyx
05-22-2006, 10:22 PM
LET ME CLARIFY SOMETHING....IM NOT INTO THIS LIFESTYLE FOR THE SEX ASPECT OF IT..I SEE TS GIRLS AS MY MATES , I DONT HAVE SEX UNLESS IM IN A RELATIONSHIP......MOST TS GIRLS ARE YOUNG AND AWWWED BY MEN THAT LIVE FOR THEM....UNFORTUNATLY MOST, NOT ALL BUT MOST, START ESCORTING & BECOME LAZY AND DO NOTHING WITH THEMSELVES....THEY ARE GOOD FOR ONE THING ONLY..SEX!!!...THTS ALL THEY BRING TO THE TABLE WHEN IN FACT THEY ARE CAPABLE OF SO MUCH MORE.....WHOOOPIE A RETARD CAN GIVE A BLOW JOB OR FUCK SOMEONE IN THE ASS....HORMONES ARE NO EXCUSE FOR LAZINESS AND YOUR LIFESTYLE...PLEASE I KNOW MORE ABOUT HORMONES THEN ANYONE.....YOUR PREACHING TO THE CHIOR..... THE ESCORTING GIRLS LOSE THEMSELVES ALONG THE WAY, LIFES A PARTY, MEN LIVE FOR ME, IM MAKING COINS DOWN!!!!....BUT...WATCH WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SOME TS SUPER STAR DIE!!!....OH YEAH BABE , WTCH THAT SAD STORY, A FEW OF HER COCK PICTURES GET POSTED ON THE WEB WITH GUYS TALKING ABOUT THEIR ESCORT EXPERIENCE THEY HAD WITH HER, BUT NO ONE REALLY GIVES A RATS ASS ABOUT MISS SUPERSTR AS A PERSON...NOT EVEN HER FRIENDS MOURN HER SOUL...YEAH THEY FEEL IT FOR A DA OR TO BUT THEN ITS GONE......MY GIRL KNEW EVERYBODY, SHE WAS SUPER POPULAR , WHEN MY GIRLFRIEND PASSED AWAY AS POPULAR AS SHE WAS 3 GIRLS CAME TO HER FUNERAL...3.....SHE DIED IN HER FRIENDS BED, THAT GGOD FRIEND DIDNT COME TO MY GIRLS FUNERAL , NO DID THAT GOOD FRIEND EVER EVN TALK TO MY GIRLS FAMILY....AS A MATTER OF FACT I WAS AT A CLUB AND THAT GOOD FRIEND DIDNT RECOGNISE ME AND TRY TO HIT ON ME........NO ONE CARES, YOU PORNO QUEENS AND ESCORTS ARE LOVED BY THESE MEN FOR YOUR COCK.......THATS IT......CUT IT OFF AND WATCH HOW MUCH LOVE YOU GET THEN.......NOW AS FOR ME, I SEE YOU AS MY SISTERS, I LOVE ALL OF YOU IN MY WAY.....I DO CARE.....I SEE A LOT OF GOOD IN A LOT OF YOU GIRLS BUT UNFOIRTUNTLY ITS WASTED TALENT, YOU DONT LOVE YOURSELVES ENOUGH...I BELEIVE YOU GIRLS COULD DO WHAT EVER YOU WANT IN LIFE BUT THE ESCORT THING MAKES YOU LAZY AND YOUR POLUTED......UNFORTUNATLY UNLESS YOU CHANGE YOUR THOUGHT PATTERN , YOUR NEVER GONNA DO ANYTHNG BUT ESCORT...THATS SAD...WHEN A LOT OF GIRLS GET OLDER THATS WHEN REALITY HITS THEM, THEN THEY WANNA MEET A GUY WHO WILL TKE CARE OF THEM BECAUSE THE YOUNG NEW CUTIE TRANNY IS NOW THE NEW SUPER STAR......ITS REALLY SAD BUT ESCORTING RUINS THESE GIRLS IT A CURSE THEY DONT SEE...ITS LIKE DRUG DEALING, SHIT WILL HIT THE FAN EVENTULLY BUT TILL THEN LIFE IS A PARTY AND FOR A FEW DOLLARS YOUR SOUL IS FOR SALE.....YOU CAN BE ANYBODIES GIRL FOR MONEY....I HURT FOR YOU ALL...IM NOT BEING SHADY BUT I KNOW THE DEAL , I BEEN AROUD A LONG TIME, WAYYYYY LONGER THEN ANY OF YOU GIRLS , TRUST & BELEIVE IV SEE DEATH FIRST HAND, I SEE AIDS EAT UP A LOT OF GIRLS IN THE LATE 80's & EARLY 90's , I SEEN GIRL THROW THIER LIVES AWAY.....GET THIS IN YOUR HEAD , IM NOT SOME FREAK ON THIS SITE WHORSHIPPING TRANNY COCK....THAT SICKENS ME MORE THEN ANYTHING ELSE.......THIS IS MY COMMUNITY & YOU ARE MY GIRLS.

"THIS IS MY COMMUNITY AND YOU ARE MY GIRLS"

I don't know man you just seem straight out of your mind

sdman
05-22-2006, 10:31 PM
LET ME CLARIFY SOMETHING....IM NOT INTO THIS LIFESTYLE FOR THE SEX ASPECT OF IT..I SEE TS GIRLS AS MY MATES , I DONT HAVE SEX UNLESS IM IN A RELATIONSHIP......MOST TS GIRLS ARE YOUNG AND AWWWED BY MEN THAT LIVE FOR THEM....UNFORTUNATLY MOST, NOT ALL BUT MOST, START ESCORTING & BECOME LAZY AND DO NOTHING WITH THEMSELVES....THEY ARE GOOD FOR ONE THING ONLY..SEX!!!...THTS ALL THEY BRING TO THE TABLE WHEN IN FACT THEY ARE CAPABLE OF SO MUCH MORE.....WHOOOPIE A RETARD CAN GIVE A BLOW JOB OR FUCK SOMEONE IN THE ASS....HORMONES ARE NO EXCUSE FOR LAZINESS AND YOUR LIFESTYLE...PLEASE I KNOW MORE ABOUT HORMONES THEN ANYONE.....YOUR PREACHING TO THE CHIOR..... THE ESCORTING GIRLS LOSE THEMSELVES ALONG THE WAY, LIFES A PARTY, MEN LIVE FOR ME, IM MAKING COINS DOWN!!!!....BUT...WATCH WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SOME TS SUPER STAR DIE!!!....OH YEAH BABE , WTCH THAT SAD STORY, A FEW OF HER COCK PICTURES GET POSTED ON THE WEB WITH GUYS TALKING ABOUT THEIR ESCORT EXPERIENCE THEY HAD WITH HER, BUT NO ONE REALLY GIVES A RATS ASS ABOUT MISS SUPERSTR AS A PERSON...NOT EVEN HER FRIENDS MOURN HER SOUL...YEAH THEY FEEL IT FOR A DA OR TO BUT THEN ITS GONE......MY GIRL KNEW EVERYBODY, SHE WAS SUPER POPULAR , WHEN MY GIRLFRIEND PASSED AWAY AS POPULAR AS SHE WAS 3 GIRLS CAME TO HER FUNERAL...3.....SHE DIED IN HER FRIENDS BED, THAT GGOD FRIEND DIDNT COME TO MY GIRLS FUNERAL , NO DID THAT GOOD FRIEND EVER EVN TALK TO MY GIRLS FAMILY....AS A MATTER OF FACT I WAS AT A CLUB AND THAT GOOD FRIEND DIDNT RECOGNISE ME AND TRY TO HIT ON ME........NO ONE CARES, YOU PORNO QUEENS AND ESCORTS ARE LOVED BY THESE MEN FOR YOUR COCK.......THATS IT......CUT IT OFF AND WATCH HOW MUCH LOVE YOU GET THEN.......NOW AS FOR ME, I SEE YOU AS MY SISTERS, I LOVE ALL OF YOU IN MY WAY.....I DO CARE.....I SEE A LOT OF GOOD IN A LOT OF YOU GIRLS BUT UNFOIRTUNTLY ITS WASTED TALENT, YOU DONT LOVE YOURSELVES ENOUGH...I BELEIVE YOU GIRLS COULD DO WHAT EVER YOU WANT IN LIFE BUT THE ESCORT THING MAKES YOU LAZY AND YOUR POLUTED......UNFORTUNATLY UNLESS YOU CHANGE YOUR THOUGHT PATTERN , YOUR NEVER GONNA DO ANYTHNG BUT ESCORT...THATS SAD...WHEN A LOT OF GIRLS GET OLDER THATS WHEN REALITY HITS THEM, THEN THEY WANNA MEET A GUY WHO WILL TKE CARE OF THEM BECAUSE THE YOUNG NEW CUTIE TRANNY IS NOW THE NEW SUPER STAR......ITS REALLY SAD BUT ESCORTING RUINS THESE GIRLS IT A CURSE THEY DONT SEE...ITS LIKE DRUG DEALING, SHIT WILL HIT THE FAN EVENTULLY BUT TILL THEN LIFE IS A PARTY AND FOR A FEW DOLLARS YOUR SOUL IS FOR SALE.....YOU CAN BE ANYBODIES GIRL FOR MONEY....I HURT FOR YOU ALL...IM NOT BEING SHADY BUT I KNOW THE DEAL , I BEEN AROUD A LONG TIME, WAYYYYY LONGER THEN ANY OF YOU GIRLS , TRUST & BELEIVE IV SEE DEATH FIRST HAND, I SEE AIDS EAT UP A LOT OF GIRLS IN THE LATE 80's & EARLY 90's , I SEEN GIRL THROW THIER LIVES AWAY.....GET THIS IN YOUR HEAD , IM NOT SOME FREAK ON THIS SITE WHORSHIPPING TRANNY COCK....THAT SICKENS ME MORE THEN ANYTHING ELSE.......THIS IS MY COMMUNITY & YOU ARE MY GIRLS.


YOU ARE A REAL ASS HOLE AND STUPID ONE AT THAT!

LAtoNY
05-22-2006, 10:33 PM
LET ME CLARIFY SOMETHING....

THEY BECOME LAZY AND DO NOTHING WITH THEMSELVES....

THEY ARE GOOD FOR ONE THING ONLY..SEX!!!........WHOOOPIE A RETARD CAN GIVE A BLOW JOB OR FUCK SOMEONE IN THE ASS....

HORMONES ARE NO EXCUSE FOR LAZINESS AND YOUR LIFESTYLE........ THE ESCORTING GIRLS LOSE THEMSELVES ALONG THE WAY, LIFES A PARTY, MEN LIVE FOR ME, IM MAKING COINS DOWN!!!!........

THE ESCORT THING MAKES YOU LAZY AND YOUR POLUTED....

NOW AS FOR ME, I SEE YOU AS MY SISTERS, I LOVE ALL OF YOU IN MY WAY.....I DO CARE............

THIS IS MY COMMUNITY & YOU ARE MY GIRLS.

Uhh, MEGA -- you need to see someone about your mental state. Please re-read your comments above. You run down these girls in the worst way... and then you have the balls to say, "I love you all; you are my girls." ???

Hmmm, I may be wrong... but I don't think Yasmin would consider herself "one of your girls!"

From your comments above it is clear you have no respect for these girls. Your post is offensive.

BeardedOne
05-22-2006, 10:56 PM
Mega may not speak well (And he sure as hell doesn't speak =small= :lol: ), but I've been [trying to] reading his posts for some months and he does have an odd sort of sincerity in them. :)

I've been in similar communities where I felt a wierd sort of bond with the women in the big social circles, and have had some similar experiences/viewpoints.

I'll never be Captain Save-a-Ho (They do too good a job at 'saving' me), but I do have some feelings for the gurls I've been with (Though I don't delude myself into believeing that they even remember my name).

C'mon, I'm a freakin' hermit. Besides the stray cats, who else should I care for?

LAtoNY
05-22-2006, 11:03 PM
Mega may not speak well (And he sure as hell doesn't speak =small= :lol: ), but I've been [trying to] reading his posts for some months and he does have an odd sort of sincerity in them. :)


I would disagree. How could someone with such a low opinion of ts girls be sincere and truly "care about them?"

I think it's funny that MEGA hangs out at a site called "HUNG ANGELS" and yet mentions in every one of his posts how much he "hates shemale cock" and "has no interest in sex." ????

TomSelis
05-22-2006, 11:16 PM
Mega may not speak well (And he sure as hell doesn't speak =small= :lol: ), but I've been [trying to] reading his posts for some months and he does have an odd sort of sincerity in them. :)


I would disagree. How could someone with such a low opinion of ts girls be sincere and truly "care about them?"

I think it's funny that MEGA hangs out at a site called "HUNG ANGELS" and yet mentions in every one of his posts how much he "hates shemale cock" and "has no interest in sex." ????

Sometimes you have to meet the people that post to know them. A lot of what Mega says is true and it's coming from a man that really walked (and still walks) the lifestyle. The last time I saw him he was with a fine tgirl, so he's not talking out his ass. Sometimes the things he says sound contradictary, but they are right on the money.

HeHateMe
05-22-2006, 11:41 PM
"THIS IS MY COMMUNITY AND YOU ARE MY GIRLS"

I don't know man you just seem straight out of your mind.

__________________________________________

NOW THAT IS THE STATEMENT OF THE YEAR!
If I were a psychiatrist, I could have a field day with this guy.

BeardedOne
05-22-2006, 11:45 PM
THANK YOU BeardedOne

NP dewd. You may be LOUD, but your character speaks volumes.

And yah, if I actually spoke to my family (Aside from a handful of recent funerals, I haven't seen/spoken to them in over twenty years), I'd be proud to introduce them to any of the gurls I know.


I would disagree. How could someone with such a low opinion of ts girls be sincere and truly "care about them?"

I think it's funny that MEGA hangs out at a site called "HUNG ANGELS" and yet mentions in every one of his posts how much he "hates shemale cock" and "has no interest in sex." ????

There are some that consider me a mysoginist because of how I have railed (Sp?) against women in recent years after the bloodbath of my last relationship. Yet, even though I have had some rather earthy words on the species (Ask Seanchai how many variations of reference that 'cunt' can take), that doesn't mean that I don't have feelings for some of them.

I have some very strong 'family' feelings for one woman in my life, but that doesn't make her any less of a moron in the big picture of the world.

I've also had phases where I've had little interest in sex, mostly because I have, over time, equated sex with intimacy/love and I find the latter to be more dillusional with each passing day. So, there are times that, when thrust upon me (As it actually has been in recent months), I'll decline sex because it, for lack of better reference, just doesn't 'work' for me.

That last note is what eventually brought me to see escorts. No longer able to trust the psycho-babble of the common 'relationship', I seek companionship and, as a bonus, sex in a venue where the rules are more concise.

Do I have feelings for the escort? Yes, to some extent. Do they have feelings for me? Don't be a fucking idiot. Better that they don't, because those that have in the past have lost their fucking minds.

Grrrr... :x

I'm not done yet. :twisted:

BeardedOne
05-22-2006, 11:47 PM
"THIS IS MY COMMUNITY AND YOU ARE MY GIRLS"

I don't know man you just seem straight out of your mind.

Well...

Yah! We already knew that! :D

JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel
05-22-2006, 11:58 PM
I think some of you characters take a one-liner and stomp it's creator into the ground................
As far as NYC goes when Mega walks in a party girls flock to him & his crew, having seen it, I know it to be a fact, if he wants to say it's his community and these are his girls let him, because having known the dude for almost a decade and seeing him out in the streets with his ex (yes, the one who passed away) I can say he's not hiding in that closet many of us are in...............
It's one thing to criticize someone but as stated by Hollywood you really don't know them unless you walk in their shoes..................... good damn line

Here in NYC I rarely see the TS hairdresser, I know they exist and I know one that used to work in the city but she moved south.........
I also know a TS that is an airline stewardess, she works her ass off, but when it comes to that ratio of escorts to non-escorts I am a bit skeptical on it......

I mentioned when I 1st came on this board how I met a girl who at the time I thought didn't escort and I got several replies from the veterans of this forum telling me how I was wrong, and how that's practically impossible, I still had my doubts until I bought a Village Voice paper and saw her in an ad.............

This topic evolved from it's original question, I apologize for my part in that, but I'm glad we discussed it............

LAtoNY
05-23-2006, 03:10 AM
All MEGA's saying is that many girls are headed for shitty lives unless they build a future for themselves. What the hell is so bad about that?!

We must be talking about different posts.

Who is Mega to judge a girl who decides to escort for a living? Let's leave the judgement to "someone" else.

Hey, I never met the dude so I'll lighten up -- but... (nevermind, I said I'd lighten up).

LAtoNY
05-23-2006, 03:21 AM
I can think of no instances where he's ever dissed the girls or acted like the typical loser trick.

Arianna,

What is the typical loser trick? I have to admit I don't have much time to visit this board, but I can't recall many (if any) posts here that have been disrespectful to TS escorts. Am I wrong?? (maybe)

It seems that those who don't escort (or don't see TS escorts - like mega) are very bitter about this activity -- not sure why that is.

Quinn
05-23-2006, 03:22 AM
Who is Mega to judge a girl who decides to escort for a living? Let's leave the judgement to "someone" else.

To whom should he surrender his judgment? To you? To me? To anyone? Is he not entitled to make his own judgment call as he sees it, even if "someone else" disagrees with it?

-Quinn

LAtoNY
05-23-2006, 03:33 AM
Who is Mega to judge a girl who decides to escort for a living? Let's leave the judgement to "someone" else.

To whom should he surrender his judgment? To you? To me? To anyone? Is he not entitled to make his own judgment call as he sees it, even if "someone else" disagrees with it?

-Quinn

Obviously the implication was that he should keep his judgement to himself. If you're trying to bait me into a first amendment debate, you've failed.

Quinn
05-23-2006, 03:37 AM
Who is Mega to judge a girl who decides to escort for a living? Let's leave the judgement to "someone" else.

To whom should he surrender his judgment? To you? To me? To anyone? Is he not entitled to make his own judgment call as he sees it, even if "someone else" disagrees with it?

-Quinn

Obviously the implication was that he should keep his judgement to himself. If you're trying to bait me into a first amendment debate, you've failed.

First amendment debate? Uh....no, actually, I was just asking for a simple application of common sense – which obviously did fail.

-Quinn

LAtoNY
05-23-2006, 03:40 AM
The girls don't need the likes of you to save them. You act like the girls are waiting for their knight in shining armor to come along and save them. As someone already said, we saved ourselves a long time ago.[/quote]

Very well said (certainly better than my previous posts).

Danielle Foxxx
05-23-2006, 03:48 AM
"YES, A FEW OF THE GUYS ARE PLAYERS, BUT MOST SEEK LTR...." - NOT TRUE AT ALL ... Most guys are players, some guys have a heart, this is coming from someone who is very much out of the dating game. I have dated married men, single men, with girlfriends, since I was 17 years old. I have met 3 men that took me out in public EVER! I have seen men that I have dated out in public and they turn away from me, as if my cock was not in their mouths the day before... When they are inside my front door they relax and act like who they really are... They open up, talk to me, not only have sex, but they trully became someone else, they escape...Once they walk out the game begins...They go back to acting as if they are normal themselves, treating us like outsiders, truth is... I find myself more accepting of myself then any John, Mike, Nick, Jeff or Terry I have ever dated. This including my ex boyfriend - who said he accepted me and created this world of illusion into which I fell into. But he NEVER introduced me to anyone, even though he claimed to be inlove with me. It was only when his ex genetic girlfriend found out I was a transsexual that she told his brother and the shit hit the fan. I would never see myself going to family holidays at his house... So... was that a relationship I wanna be into? Nope...I rather be single and a whore then get played...ANYDAY!
"UNDSTAND THIS, TRANSEXUALISM FOR THE MOST PART IS AN ILLUSION, THE CHEMSTRY AND MINDSET OF MOST TS GIRLS IS STILL THAT OF A MAN..." - If you are born a true transsexual your mind is not that of a man's. Most girls are pushed into it by their friends, most like genetic women there are more feminine girls and there are more boyish ones. I own a drill and circular saw, I shop at home depot ( I have gotten plenty of numbers there ) but does that ake me a man? Nope... I am happier as a transsexual woman but I do not feel like I am a genetic female neither will I live in the illusion that I will ever be one. Being transgender has nothing to do on how passible you are. It's a disorder, a handicap, not to sound negative at all.
"I HAVE NO RESPECT FOR GUYS WILLING TO BUY THEM GIFTS AND SPEND MONEY ON THEM" - The guys are paying for a discrete service. Being an escort is not a bad thing... really...You are not stealing, killing, hurting anyone, you are actually providing a safe environment where your clients can have a smile on their face and go on about their lives. Now selling drugs - that's bad... Altho I have bought meds from mexican dealers before.
"LIFE BECOMES AND ENDLESS PARTY, MEN, MONEY, GIFTS AND DRUG/BOOZ......BUT THEY ALSO LOSE THEIR SOUL ALONG THE WAY....." - Not true. Life is what you make it... You do remember when you were partying right? But you had a hard awake when the cops busted down your door and woke you from your sleep, did you even sleep back then? We lose our souls because we have no one to turn to. I am lucky to have positive affirmation to conterbalance all the hate like you are throwing.
"LET ME LET YOU GUYS IN ON SOMETHING, THESE TRANNYS LOVE WHAT THEY DO, THEY LOVE BEING A WHORE.......THEY COULD NOT DO ANYTHING ELSE IN LIFE, NOT CAUSE THEY ARE DUMB OR ARNT SMART ENOUGH..." - First off, Lay off the caps, take a Z bar, EVERYONE deserves respect - from the street walker hooker to the escorts on web sites, to the ones that do it at bards, and the ones that only take gifts... We are all human and the last thing a girl wants to deal with being a whore or not is some crazy judgemental prick with no sense of humility and a cold heart. I mean... I would hate to share my life with someone as uneducated as you as much as you would with a dirty whore like me. Part of being in a relationship is about encouraging your partner and helping guide them in the right direction, if you fall for someone it's about the love and building the trust...Let a man show me he deserves my efforts and I won't charge him, but I am not going to provide a service and fantasy fulfilment for free... Now we all know that you are open about dating transsexuals but the truth is we are still seen as creatures of the dark, and I feel sorry for the girls who do not have any other choice but to hook, because if they walk in any establishment they will be discriminated against. I was fired when I transitioned on my job so... I can sympathise with anyone really. People are not bad, society and the norm is bad. Get over it Megabody - stop being such a prick man...
"THEY WOULD NEVER PARLAY THAT ILL GOTTEN HOOKER MONEY INTO A REAL BUSINESS...I MEAN A REAL BUSINESS" - Not to be confused with going to jail for selling steroids...Now that's a real business...
"WATCH THE RESPONSES....TRUTH HURTS!!!!!" - You are not speaking the truth dude, none of your dilusions of being a motivational speaker will ever come true. You are negative and cannot find a way to word things in a positive way - LIVE AND LET LIVE - stop judging people you are not God...You aren't even tall enough to be God... No matter how big your bicepts are, do you find your have a blessed life? Do you look back and like what you see? Most of us don't sweety - that is why the saying is " Never look back always foward. Funny how this whore has smarter things to say then you...
"SEX MEANS SHIT TO ME, IM WITH A TS GIRL WHO LOOKS HOT ,& 100% REAL , SHE IS A VP OF A HUGE COPERATION AND SHE WAS A VIRGIN WHEN I MET HER...." - Any girl in their right state of mind would be crazy to date you... LOL ...VP or not...Girl get the fuck out while you still can!
"THANK GOD MINE ISNT BOY CRAZY LIKE THESE GIRLS ALL ARE WOOF!!!!!!..." Yeah cause with all those steroids I would find hard for you to be able to date a girl who has any passion or sex drive at all... Unless ofcorse....HUmmmmm could you possibly be a bottom...? LOL Rumors....

You know funny thing Mr. World 1943... When I watched your story on the Discovery Channel...thats where they play TABOO shows you showed pictures of your beautiful ex and to me she looked like a transsexual - gorgeous but not 100% passible - BUT YOU NEVER MENTIONED SHE WAS A TRANSSEXUAL... Why is that? Could you be in a world that is macho and would not accept you or not take you seriously because you had her genitalia slobbered all over your face everyday?
Funny how you men are so quick to judge and yet I see you posting pictures of men in wigs but with 10 inch dicks in here.... You drool all over them... I seen it all.... And yet you allow idiots like this to still try and represent you...It's ironic isn't it?
If there is anyone in their right state of mind out there please stand up and let this Gay Barnie Rubble Look alike know that his steroid delusions aren't shared by everyone...
MEGA - I FORGIVE YOU! Even though I know that I have no hate in me, I have to say...maybe I do have a bit of rage after reading your lovely words. I forgive you dude... seriously... its not your fault really...
LAST THING...
"MEN THINK WITH THIER DICK AND THIER EYES....GENETIC GIRLS THINK WITH THIER HEART.... " - When transsexuals start having babies then we can discuss this further. But untill then I go with my original document of birth SEX - MALE ...Now I am a proud transsexual - learning to dig myway out of this horrid life, being pulled down by the weight of my missfortunes and yet driven by the fighting spirit within me. I just want to lay my head down and close my eyes at my restful moment when ever that may be and realize that all I did was try - and if I tried hard enough then I did my best...And I pray that in my next lifetime if there is one that I will not be born into a life that curses me more then the "normies" do. I pray for everyone without a heart - everyone without a soul. I pray for those who pray on weakness, who disrupt balance, who judge and yet are hypocrits....
Martin Luther King, Jr.: Life Quote
Life's most urgent question is: What are you doing for others?

chefmike
05-23-2006, 04:01 AM
I'm not gonna judge anybody on this whole escorting thing...I'm a jaded mofo, what with landing in Subic Bay after boot camp at the age of 17...and also managing a titty bar back in the day, after I got out of the fleet...

But I just wanna say that people seem to be a little harsh as far as their opinions regarding the girls on this thread...especially Yasmin...who I feel is a sincere, sweet, and bright girl who is obviously a good person...oh shit, now I'm sounding like honda talkin about you-know-who...

Anyway...in a sense, every human lives in a glass house, and a stone can come crashing through it anytime...

Yasmin and the other girls on this forum have been very honest and open about their lifestyles...so let's live and let live...

Samantha
05-23-2006, 04:09 AM
I often see transexual women in Boston working at alot of the mid-to-high end boutiques, state jobs, hair salons, etc. I never seen or heard of one myself using the escorting market as one to make ends meet. Then again, I never been on a stroll to look for sex by paying for it. (It's silly, Gentic women give up the punanni for free)

Which is why I can't comprehend the whole "We have to turn to escorting" excuse. I'm not saying the job market is booming across the United states(or my state). But, I shop at Urban Outfitters, Macy's, Filenes, Sak's, Gap and there are always Transexual women who work there. Also, even working for the city or the Transit service provided by the state(MBTA.com) and they are in full force working. Not just 1 or 2 females. Usually by the group load.

If a Job oppertunity comes to light, will you turn it down?

Basically would you rather have;

A) $12 an hour honest pay with your pride?

or

B) $200 an hour where you have to swallow your pride and post about how "degrading it is"?

But, my experience is very limited to post of. So I guess it is moot.

$12 an hour in this job market - right.

BTW I don't escort and have a four year degree.

NickTheQuick
05-23-2006, 04:12 AM
Funny shit. I predict 10 more pages for this thread.

chefmike
05-23-2006, 04:26 AM
Arianna,

What is the typical loser trick? I have to admit I don't have much time to visit this board, but I can't recall many (if any) posts here that have been disrespectful to TS escorts. Am I wrong?? (maybe)

It seems that those who don't escort (or don't see TS escorts - like mega) are very bitter about this activity -- not sure why that is.To me, the typical loser trick is a guy who's in an area that has plenty of good esorts, but has to work w/ a budget so he goes looking for street walkers on a "stroll".

And there is a dumbass who regularly posts here (who shall go nameless) that said that he was glad he never saw escorts because he dosen't want to catch HIV. But actually this very same dumbass said only a week before that he was bummed out because a certain somebody on here wouldn't return his calls for a session.

And then there was that other dipshit (who shall also remain nameless) who wanted to give a certain TS shit about certain parties he didn't like having to pay for. This particlar guy was basically saying how he was so happy to be engaged to somebody too classy to escort, and that escorts are basically all gold-diggers. That guy turned out to be ONE UGLY MOTHERFUCKER btw. :P

Hint: He lives across the hall from Seinfeld....

Danielle Foxxx
05-23-2006, 04:30 AM
Oh the Drama of it all....

mkfreesite
05-23-2006, 04:30 AM
how does one even get into escorting as a shemale tho?
are you guys lured in by a fellow shemale?
or is the initial glamor of receving large amounts of money in such a short time?
what made some of your get into this field?

Danielle Foxxx
05-23-2006, 04:36 AM
If that question was not answered already in my email I think the answer lies withing you

Onyx
05-23-2006, 04:37 AM
Oh the Drama of it all....

hell yeah.... I love transexuals with a hint of manliness lol

cheribaum
05-23-2006, 04:58 AM
Bout fucking time someone told that idiot how stupid he sounds .... He may have an opinion but noone really asks for it. He's gotta be the most self-righteous/serving moron on this board. LMAO @ you MEGA :P

flabbybody
05-23-2006, 05:41 AM
I was a DL chaser in the early eighties hanging in the Show World sex shopes passing dollar bills to see she- dick through the glass booths. Later on in life, I ran in to Mega at a party one night and all of sudden I don't feel like a weird semi-faggot anymore. There are normal guys out there like me who actually have tgirls as friends and lovers.

you folks who run mega down and look at your porn don't get the fact that this world consits of real people. t's who want to leave the drugs and escorting as well as the guys who want girls to see them more than just johns.

plainBob
05-23-2006, 05:43 AM
You folks need to sit back and relax with a cold beer and go fishing.

plainBob
05-23-2006, 06:01 AM
Good idea when ya leaveing?

plainBob
05-23-2006, 06:08 AM
Than you'll be here a long time. Heres a idea take some meds.

Danielle Foxxx
05-23-2006, 06:37 AM
I agree with many of the points brought here forth - LOLOLOL

No I mean seriously, is anyone here a psychiotrist? But do I really need someone to tell me where my problems lie? I don't need that - I need friends and people like you guys on this forum to not only want to see us as sex objects but I also want to make sure that I represent those who are less fortunate to have 4 year degrees.

"CELEBRITY STORIES OF THE BROKE PORN STARS AND FAMAOUS..."

Chapter 1

I started my sex life at a very young age. I remember when I was very little, maybe 5, that I used to go into my mothers closet and dress in her clothes. Now...Who was teaching me to do that? NO ONE ...It was only obvious to me that I was not meant to be a boy. Any boy in their right state of mind would know that playing with dresses and makeup is for sissies, and that is what I grew up hearing from everyone.
After many years in therapy, going to doctors who studied my blood and growth...hormone replacement - I was given thestosterone... ( I remember this like it was an indention in my memory ) , payed for by my dad's departed aints, I as a small child finally reached yet another ralitive - handed from hand to hand, hoping to find an answer as well. But everything led me to my thinking that I should at least try to be a boy.
My mother kept my hair at a very long length, sorta like the 70's Romeo Boll Cut. I was very blond and small framed. I did not fit in with all the danm dark haired darked skinned brasilian kids. I was an outcast in many ways then just the one that would come to my head.
When I was allowed to play outside with the kids, I took off my shoes and walked barefoot in the warm melting Brasilian asfalt, like a boy in many ways I was great at climbing trees, and yet I would sit there for hrs eating off green mangos with salt.
My parents were well off at the time and I just loved getting away and just being with the other kids.
When I was 7, I remember I was rapped in my neighbrhood, many times by the other kids, but I was always sodomised, because I was so girly - I was used as an object even at that age. At home if I came home because I had a fight on the street my mom would beat me twice as hard because I had the fight in the first place. I had my arm broken when I was 10 by a bully and a finger the next year... When I had my arm broken I was on my bike, he pushed me off, I fell on my arm broke it and then he spit on me twisted my broken arm behind my back wich I still cringe with the sound of bone ripping, I then ran...climbed over our 7 foot cement wall with the help of our neighbor's smaller fence and waited in locked gates as my parents arrived. No cell phones then...
Well... I kept dressing up eventually. My dad was an alcoholic, maybe because his life had gone down the drain. He cheated on my mom several times even in front of me, and so she didn't really wanna have sex with him... so... he would get hooked up by his step mom with his cousin's friends... lol....what a mess...Sounds like a good book yet?
Well...continuing...
When I was 14 I was given alcohol ( wine ) by a 35 year old gay man from my town. I have to admit he had some sort of transe over me because I wanted to open up to someone so bad... So I did it and didn't fight him off... He took me to a motel, It had a drive in window and he layed me on his lap and put his facket or something over me. We got in. The room was beautiful - I remember I was amaized... He then tried to penetrate me but I was dirty and it was my first time so it wasn't as pleasent as I thought it would be, for him as well I am sure. But he drove me back home the next day and my family was all united outside awake all night waiting for me... I felt like shit. They sat me down and called me names - Sissy, Fag, etc... MY FAMILY??? Did I say that right? Yes folks...
There goes my trust issues. I could not even trust my dog anymore. who turned violent because my dad used him as a punching bag for all his anger.
However your life may be... However life has brought you to this place and time in your life where you are reading the words of a transsexual, who surely did not want any of this, life just brought me here due to the lack of regards from family to guide me in the right direction. Evryone was always fighting...everyone was always mad, yelling. It wasn't always like that though...we had some incredible times together all of us.
But my childhood memories are filled with regretes, pain , sorrow...

I do believe we all have to learn lessons. Why is it that God punishes some and yet blesses others with so much joy and care?
I believe that I am aware, and we all have a place and time to shine. Life is filled with many different people - and no one is alike - even twins have diffences. NO ONE IS ALIKE.

I cherish life being a human, not just a tranny but a human. I try to make others happy because I feel obligated to for some reason.
I am not sure what the medical evaluation of all this will ever come to an end... But we are confused creatures, we don't know where we are going or what will happend tomorrow. If you lose everything the dirty hooker will be more rich then you ever dream you would.

I believe God protects us all from harm no matter what. I see things that many girls don't - I try to pass that onto you gus as much as I can - to put a heart behind the body - then next time you decide to see another TS you will remeber to treat her a bit better then just another transaction.

I am sorry for ramblin on but all this blame in here makes me sick...

4 year degree my ass... you are still in here posting... anyone who reads posts has some shit wrong with them...trsut me... its a proven science

plainBob
05-23-2006, 06:41 AM
Well put Ms foxx.

JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel
05-23-2006, 06:44 AM
I don't know, it seems like Mega said something and a few of you tried to shit on him about it. IMO he stood tall and said what he believed, I commend him for that. I also commend the women who responded to this thread, nice to see you on the board participating in what I guess is touchy to certain people. Danielle your ex who never took you outside puzzles me because I honestly can't see you walking in the street day or night with a man being an issue, unless he's pigme height, I have no idea how tall you are. I've had a friend of mine (she might be reading this) in my car several times and we've hung out at clubs, never been an issue, guys do the barking/hoot calls at her and I just laugh..................

Onyx
05-23-2006, 06:54 AM
When I was 7, I remember I was rapped in my neighbrhood, many times by the other kids, but I was always sodomised, because I was so girly - I was used as an object even at that age.

what the fuck haha

Onyx
05-23-2006, 07:01 AM
NO, NO ,NO...Onyx YOU NEED TO APPOLIGISE RIGHT NOW!!!!......THATS WRONG DO NOT EVER LAUGH AT THAT...IM NOT PLAYIN AROUND.....THERES A LINE THATS NOT TO BE CROSSED, IF DANIELLE FEELS LIKE SHARING HER PERSONAL STORY AND YOU LAUGH AT A KID GETTING RAPED, THATS CROSSING THE LINE........DANIELLE AND I HAVE HAD OUR WARS BUT THATS NOT FUNNY......TAKE IT BACK NOW!!!!!!

is that honestly her story? I thought that shit was a joke, how can you be raped several times at the age of seven and just write it about it like it was a normal occurence.

Danielle Foxxx
05-23-2006, 07:11 AM
I am seriously not going to sit here and tell you my lovely road side blow jobs, or boob flashing on the freeway, yes, the comments from dirt men...LOL... phone numbers, people are extra nice to you for some odd reason, Guys stare at my boobs while they talk to me, what else... ahmmmm... I can wear whatever I want whenever I want. I get a few stares sometimes, but I am trying to see who I am and I like it. I have done this with the help of a few very incredibly smart people.
"The Devil" ( place ex's name here ) was sort of a lost cause really. His likes for TS are strickly sexual. He will neve be able to commit to his true desires or anything else for that matter. He did give me 3 months of amaizing devotion in which he would make out with me in front of alot of people, we were like kids, skipping and jumping and so happy - I was content....I was not escorting. I was ready to devote myself to him.
But all must come to an end when infidelity comes along...and I am not just saying he went for the likes of Vicki. Allanah, Gia, Vanitty, Ysmin, Yazmin, the boy cheated on me with some beast... LOL ...here is my lil human side coming out...
Well needles to say... I am in this boat, I will get out soon - I wanna get out - but I am not going to do it alone danm it.

plainBob
05-23-2006, 07:14 AM
YOU GO GIRL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MY prayers to every pagan god i know are with you.

Danielle Foxxx
05-23-2006, 07:21 AM
NO, NO ,NO...Onyx YOU NEED TO APPOLIGISE RIGHT NOW!!!!......THATS WRONG DO NOT EVER LAUGH AT THAT...IM NOT PLAYIN AROUND.....THERES A LINE THATS NOT TO BE CROSSED, IF DANIELLE FEELS LIKE SHARING HER PERSONAL STORY AND YOU LAUGH AT A KID GETTING RAPED, THATS CROSSING THE LINE........DANIELLE AND I HAVE HAD OUR WARS BUT THATS NOT FUNNY......TAKE IT BACK NOW!!!!!!

is that honestly her story? I thought that shit was a joke, how can you be raped several times at the age of seven and just write it about it like it was a normal occurence.

Well the truth is I have no clue now I am even standing here today after so many things I have encountered in my life. I had lived a whole lot, sometimes people don't get to do 1/2 the stuff I have done in 1 lifetime. Trully I can guarantee you I am not a quitter and I do not give up on anything I have ever done in my life. Not even when I moved to California from Orlando Florida - the book " Seat of the soul" Gary Zukav got me into the world again when I felt very alone and misguided, I found out that the book is about your six sense and trusting your inner voice. I stopped fighting my destiny and decided to embrace it whatever way it materialized. Fortunally for me I am here today, I get to say I have my face for people from all over the world to see and I bring joy to those people, an escape, I make them happy - I don't cause any harm to any one intentionally - Now I have a very close friend who hates her job - she is a lawyer and she laways jokes that I have a cleaner job then she does LOL...
And trully guys... how many of you think that we cannot voice our opinions after all that I have written.
I am not bullshitting, all that really happend to me, and my story repeats it self every day, many times over... I am not alone in this, these girls all share my story, in varying ways, but... we all have a past. Some are lucky enough to have been born into safe houses, where they became unaware of the underground dirt - and those are the lucky ones my friends, we are all stuck together - you and me, good and bad, angry and happy... You...reading this.... yes you ...

Onyx
05-23-2006, 07:25 AM
NO, NO ,NO...Onyx YOU NEED TO APPOLIGISE RIGHT NOW!!!!......THATS WRONG DO NOT EVER LAUGH AT THAT...IM NOT PLAYIN AROUND.....THERES A LINE THATS NOT TO BE CROSSED, IF DANIELLE FEELS LIKE SHARING HER PERSONAL STORY AND YOU LAUGH AT A KID GETTING RAPED, THATS CROSSING THE LINE........DANIELLE AND I HAVE HAD OUR WARS BUT THATS NOT FUNNY......TAKE IT BACK NOW!!!!!!

is that honestly her story? I thought that shit was a joke, how can you be raped several times at the age of seven and just write it about it like it was a normal occurence.

Well the truth is I have no clue now I am even standing here today after so many things I have encountered in my life. I had lived a whole lot, sometimes people don't get to do 1/2 the stuff I have done in 1 lifetime. Trully I can guarantee you I am not a quitter and I do not give up on anything I have ever done in my life. Not even when I moved to California from Orlando Florida - the book " Seat of the soul" Gary Zukav got me into the world again when I felt very alone and misguided, I found out that the book is about your six sense and trusting your inner voice. I stopped fighting my destiny and decided to embrace it whatever way it materialized. Fortunally for me I am here today, I get to say I have my face for people from all over the world to see and I bring joy to those people, an escape, I make them happy - I don't cause any harm to any one intentionally - Now I have a very close friend who hates her job - she is a lawyer and she laways jokes that I have a cleaner job then she does LOL...
And trully guys... how many of you think that we cannot voice our opinions after all that I have written.
I am not bullshitting, all that really happend to me, and my story repeats it self every day, many times over... I am not alone in this, these girls all share my story, in varying ways, but... we all have a past. Some are lucky enough to have been born into safe houses, where they became unaware of the underground dirt - and those are the lucky ones my friends, we are all stuck together - you and me, good and bad, angry and happy... You...reading this.... yes you ...

in that case I apologize, I had no idea life was so rough in brazil

HeHateMe
05-23-2006, 08:11 AM
"YES, A FEW OF THE GUYS ARE PLAYERS, BUT MOST SEEK LTR...." - NOT TRUE AT ALL ... Most guys are players, some guys have a heart, this is coming from someone who is very much out of the dating game. I have dated married men, single men, with girlfriends, since I was 17 years old. I have met 3 men that took me out in public EVER! I have seen men that I have dated out in public and they turn away from me, as if my cock was not in their mouths the day before... When they are inside my front door they relax and act like who they really are... They open up, talk to me, not only have sex, but they trully became someone else, they escape...Once they walk out the game begins...They go back to acting as if they are normal themselves, treating us like outsiders, truth is... I find myself more accepting of myself then any John, Mike, Nick, Jeff or Terry I have ever dated. This including my ex boyfriend - who said he accepted me and created this world of illusion into which I fell into. But he NEVER introduced me to anyone, even though he claimed to be inlove with me. It was only when his ex genetic girlfriend found out I was a transsexual that she told his brother and the shit hit the fan. I would never see myself going to family holidays at his house... So... was that a relationship I wanna be into? Nope...I rather be single and a whore then get played...ANYDAY!
"UNDSTAND THIS, TRANSEXUALISM FOR THE MOST PART IS AN ILLUSION, THE CHEMSTRY AND MINDSET OF MOST TS GIRLS IS STILL THAT OF A MAN..." - If you are born a true transsexual your mind is not that of a man's. Most girls are pushed into it by their friends, most like genetic women there are more feminine girls and there are more boyish ones. I own a drill and circular saw, I shop at home depot ( I have gotten plenty of numbers there ) but does that ake me a man? Nope... I am happier as a transsexual woman but I do not feel like I am a genetic female neither will I live in the illusion that I will ever be one. Being transgender has nothing to do on how passible you are. It's a disorder, a handicap, not to sound negative at all.
"I HAVE NO RESPECT FOR GUYS WILLING TO BUY THEM GIFTS AND SPEND MONEY ON THEM" - The guys are paying for a discrete service. Being an escort is not a bad thing... really...You are not stealing, killing, hurting anyone, you are actually providing a safe environment where your clients can have a smile on their face and go on about their lives. Now selling drugs - that's bad... Altho I have bought meds from mexican dealers before.
"LIFE BECOMES AND ENDLESS PARTY, MEN, MONEY, GIFTS AND DRUG/BOOZ......BUT THEY ALSO LOSE THEIR SOUL ALONG THE WAY....." - Not true. Life is what you make it... You do remember when you were partying right? But you had a hard awake when the cops busted down your door and woke you from your sleep, did you even sleep back then? We lose our souls because we have no one to turn to. I am lucky to have positive affirmation to conterbalance all the hate like you are throwing.
"LET ME LET YOU GUYS IN ON SOMETHING, THESE TRANNYS LOVE WHAT THEY DO, THEY LOVE BEING A WHORE.......THEY COULD NOT DO ANYTHING ELSE IN LIFE, NOT CAUSE THEY ARE DUMB OR ARNT SMART ENOUGH..." - First off, Lay off the caps, take a Z bar, EVERYONE deserves respect - from the street walker hooker to the escorts on web sites, to the ones that do it at bards, and the ones that only take gifts... We are all human and the last thing a girl wants to deal with being a whore or not is some crazy judgemental prick with no sense of humility and a cold heart. I mean... I would hate to share my life with someone as uneducated as you as much as you would with a dirty whore like me. Part of being in a relationship is about encouraging your partner and helping guide them in the right direction, if you fall for someone it's about the love and building the trust...Let a man show me he deserves my efforts and I won't charge him, but I am not going to provide a service and fantasy fulfilment for free... Now we all know that you are open about dating transsexuals but the truth is we are still seen as creatures of the dark, and I feel sorry for the girls who do not have any other choice but to hook, because if they walk in any establishment they will be discriminated against. I was fired when I transitioned on my job so... I can sympathise with anyone really. People are not bad, society and the norm is bad. Get over it Megabody - stop being such a prick man...
"THEY WOULD NEVER PARLAY THAT ILL GOTTEN HOOKER MONEY INTO A REAL BUSINESS...I MEAN A REAL BUSINESS" - Not to be confused with going to jail for selling steroids...Now that's a real business..."WATCH THE RESPONSES....TRUTH HURTS!!!!!" - You are not speaking the truth dude, none of your dilusions of being a motivational speaker will ever come true. You are negative and cannot find a way to word things in a positive way - LIVE AND LET LIVE - stop judging people you are not God...You aren't even tall enough to be God... No matter how big your bicepts are, do you find your have a blessed life? Do you look back and like what you see? Most of us don't sweety - that is why the saying is " Never look back always foward. Funny how this whore has smarter things to say then you...
"SEX MEANS SHIT TO ME, IM WITH A TS GIRL WHO LOOKS HOT ,& 100% REAL , SHE IS A VP OF A HUGE COPERATION AND SHE WAS A VIRGIN WHEN I MET HER...." - Any girl in their right state of mind would be crazy to date you... LOL ...VP or not...Girl get the fuck out while you still can!
"THANK GOD MINE ISNT BOY CRAZY LIKE THESE GIRLS ALL ARE WOOF!!!!!!..." Yeah cause with all those steroids I would find hard for you to be able to date a girl who has any passion or sex drive at all... Unless ofcorse....HUmmmmm could you possibly be a bottom...? LOL Rumors....

You know funny thing Mr. World 1943... When I watched your story on the Discovery Channel...thats where they play TABOO shows you showed pictures of your beautiful ex and to me she looked like a transsexual - gorgeous but not 100% passible - BUT YOU NEVER MENTIONED SHE WAS A TRANSSEXUAL... Why is that? Could you be in a world that is macho and would not accept you or not take you seriously because you had her genitalia slobbered all over your face everyday?
Funny how you men are so quick to judge and yet I see you posting pictures of men in wigs but with 10 inch dicks in here.... You drool all over them... I seen it all.... And yet you allow idiots like this to still try and represent you...It's ironic isn't it?
If there is anyone in their right state of mind out there please stand up and let this Gay Barnie Rubble Look alike know that his steroid delusions aren't shared by everyone...
MEGA - I FORGIVE YOU! Even though I know that I have no hate in me, I have to say...maybe I do have a bit of rage after reading your lovely words. I forgive you dude... seriously... its not your fault really...
LAST THING...
"MEN THINK WITH THIER DICK AND THIER EYES....GENETIC GIRLS THINK WITH THIER HEART.... " - When transsexuals start having babies then we can discuss this further. But untill then I go with my original document of birth SEX - MALE ...Now I am a proud transsexual - learning to dig myway out of this horrid life, being pulled down by the weight of my missfortunes and yet driven by the fighting spirit within me. I just want to lay my head down and close my eyes at my restful moment when ever that may be and realize that all I did was try - and if I tried hard enough then I did my best...And I pray that in my next lifetime if there is one that I will not be born into a life that curses me more then the "normies" do. I pray for everyone without a heart - everyone without a soul. I pray for those who pray on weakness, who disrupt balance, who judge and yet are hypocrits....
Martin Luther King, Jr.: Life Quote
Life's most urgent question is: What are you doing for others?

THANKS A LOT FOR ALTERING MY POST FOR MEGA LAST NIGHT MODS. WE ALL SEE WHERE YOUR ALLEGIANCE LIES! THEY DID ENTIRELY CHANGE MY POST, AND WORDS TO BENEFIT MEGA. JUST WANTED YOU ALL TO KNOW THAT THE GAY BARNEY RUBBLE HAS GOT SOME STROKE ON THIS SITE.

hwbs
05-23-2006, 11:24 AM
i dont get the whole public issue....with my ex we would go anywhere that any normal people would go (also my ts friends that i currently have)...wed goto howme depot , lowes , best buy...even the fucking dentist to help her fill out the paperwork...i dont live a lie like alot of people...i dont do it for yall on here , to be cool and shit..its just how i chose to live my life....living in a big lie or fantasy world is not for me...im also not judging the recreational folks or anyone alse for that matter....we need to focus more on what we are doing in life today as individulas, and not what a whole comunity is supposodely doing....who is heading up the trany cencus beaureau anyways... :popcorn

BlackAdder
05-23-2006, 03:56 PM
Jesus Christ Danielle! Thats one horrible life story:(.... Experiences like that leave permanent scars. I applaud you for even being functional....I know GG girls who've broken under a lot less.

BlackAdder
05-23-2006, 03:58 PM
Oh.....and like JWBL said, Megas living in the lifestyle most of us are keeping in the closet. When i first came here i thought he was full of shit too. I learned though:)......Lay the fuck off him noobs.....

YasminLee
05-23-2006, 05:27 PM
THANKS DANIELLE...I CAN'T BELEIVE I LET HIS STUPID COMMENTS MAKE ME TEAR FOR HOURS LAST NIGHT..THAT'S WHY I LOVE U...THAT AND U LOOK SO HOT LAST NIGHT LOL...

LAtoNY
05-23-2006, 06:06 PM
THANKS DANIELLE...I CAN'T BELEIVE I LET HIS STUPID COMMENTS MAKE ME TEAR FOR HOURS LAST NIGHT..THAT'S WHY I LOVE U...THAT AND U LOOK SO HOT LAST NIGHT LOL...

Danielle - great posts!

And Yasmin - Don't waste your tears on something like this. You are a sweet, incredibly gorgeous girl!! Hope to see you soon.

Ecstatic
05-24-2006, 01:32 AM
[quote="MystiquEvolution"]Some of the girls may like what they do, but I'll bet you for every girl that does, there is a girl who doesn't.
[quote]
Some girls really do enjoy very frequent sex and establishing longlasting, repeat business with favorite clients, but that doesn't equate to their liking the escort lifestyle. They like a part of it, with certain people, but I think that most if not all of them would still prefer to get out of escorting as soon as possible. It's a means to an end, and some hate it while they're doing it while others actually like it but still want to get away from it, if you know what I mean.

Man, this thread exploded quickly....

Ecstatic
05-24-2006, 01:55 AM
Danielle, thanks for sharing that part of your lifestory. Very moving, and it shows in your character today, that you are strong yet caring. That's really something.

Vicki Richter
05-24-2006, 02:19 AM
It’s been my experience that some version of the “guys just use us” perspective is common to all women that escort (TS or GG). The explanation for the existence of this “phenomenon” may differ slightly with each woman, but the underlying reasoning is invariably the same. It’s an opinion formed after they experience numerous failed relationships.

I have no doubt that this will anger some people, which honestly isn’t my intention, but I think it needs to be said. So far as the vast majority of escorts are concerned, it’s their own fault. I say this not because they are escorts – which, frankly, isn’t a big deal in and of itself – but because of the culture that tends to accompany any form of escorting (from high-end all the way down to strippers who do “side work”).

There’s something that happens to women after they escort for a while. The creative license that is a necessary part of their work gradually makes its way into every aspect of their lives. Everything, no matter how well-intended, usually becomes a scam, an angle, or part of some ultimately fraudulent representation. Even when dealing with someone that they truly care about, escorts tend to occupy themselves with schemes entailing numerous forms of manipulation. In short, manipulation, lying, and deception become a way of life.
-Quinn

This is profound. Transsexuals tend to be the most distrusting people on the planet. Joanna and others have tried to be friends with Vanity, and instead she brings body guards with her to the local TS club in LA. I am not picking on Vanity, but that is one of many examples. I have been accused of all kinds of things. One girl went so far as to suggest that I told Joey not to hire her. Another girl accused me of telling people I didn't even know she one of her friends was a drug addict. Even close friends at times can turn because of the trust factor even if you've done nothing to lead up to that.

TS don't trust TS outside of their immediate social circles. TS don't trust men. After being around "the scene" men start distrusting TS.

Another big factor is TS aren't good with money for the most part. We waste a lot of money on surgery that we probably don't always need (sometimes it isn't a waste at all). I mean how many people can turn $3000 in a day let alone a week... A lot of people don't make that tax free in a month. A good TS escort could almost make enough to pay cash for a house in 2 years if she was really dedicated and decided that was her goal. She afford SRS in 3 months or a week if she goes to Thailand. She could buy her entire college degree from an in-state university with one month's salary. But girls never want to goto school. Why goto school for five years to make $35k to start out when you can escort and make that in a few months?

I think Yasmin and Mega have some good points here. Greg is right about the sex industry and the fact that there are men willing to have LTR's with TS. The problem is TS want either a broke ass that looks like Tom Cruise, or a rich guy who will immediately take them away from the life "a la - Pretty Woman". The 40+ year old range tends to be the most secure. I met and often hung out with my ex-BF's children, I met his entire family, I met his co-workers. Did he go tell the world "I'm with Vicki Richter" no. But my alter ego was good enough.

I agree the sex industry tends to jade people and that is too bad. I have always kept my ideals. The fact is that porn GG girls like the same losers that TS girls do. It is exactly like Quinn stated. I know many porn girls and many directors who work with them on a regular basis. They date the wrong jobless loser guys and pimps that TS tend to like too. I won't date a jobless guy even if he looks like Clive Owen and mouth like a hoover and a 12" dick that always stays hard. There is no future there. He isn't going to be able to provide for me in the future or even be a partner.
Some girls won't date men at all until they are out of the industry. Most of the girls are broken in a bad way and whatever normal middle class guy they might end up with will have to piece them back together.

So Yasmin don't give up on your ideals. Not all men are like you think they are. I'm going to prove that for the 2nd time very soon.

BeardedOne
05-24-2006, 02:34 AM
Ok, this is catchup from the past couple of daze, so please forgive me if I get a little redundant.


from the little knowledge that i have learned within the past month of shemales, it seems a majority escort?
true or false?

False. Basing your conjecture on your time here at HA, it's like walking into a meeting of Alcoholics Anonymous and determining that a majority of people are alcoholics. I mean, really, HA is a pedominantly 'pro' board, per se and it is populated (Mostly, but not all) by profesional women and a fair percentage of men who frequent same ('Frequent' being relative, of course).


Most ts are escorts sweetie.i would say at least 90%.

I beg to differ, Yasmin. Until I stumbled onto HA back in September/October of last year, all of the TS I'd met/known were in the mainstream. Primarily computer related careers with some in illustration or professional writers.

Nice pic, BTW. :)


MEGA POST

Man, you really make my eyeballs hurt, but I know where you're coming from. :)


I agree with Mega on alot of those points, with the exception of GG's thinking with their hearts, there's a LOT of GG bitches out there running through men like Poland Spring water bottles....

I think I've dated them all.


To this day, I hold anyone with a vagina under a sort of probabtion when i meet em. since I been hurt and backstabbed way too many times since i was 14.

Do I know you? Oh, wait! It's me!


TRY BEING ON HORMONES THAT SUPRESS YOUR SEXUAL DESIRE,,STAYING HARD FOR 4 TO 5 HOURS SHOOTING A SCENE..IF THAT'S NOT HARD WORK..WELL U GOT ME...OR BETTER YET...SEEING 10 GUYS A DAY SOMETIMES.. MOST U DON'T WANT TO BE TOUCH BY....BUT U PLAY THE PART FOR THE TIME PAID..NOT TO MENTION THE RISK OF GETTING HURT AND OR KILLED MEETING STRANGERS.

Yasmin hits on some good points here, some of which we so take for granted or overlook. To date, I've only been with a couple of T-gurls on an intimate basis, but I saw how they talked or reacted in certain ways that reminded me that these were not your average 'date'. Even on second and third 'dates' they were wary of me and my intentions. I asked one of them about her 'average' day and she said it was not uncommon to have seven appointments in a day. That's a lot of pretending to do in a a single day.


Weve all had our hearts broken by thoughtless and careless people, but I cant imagine just giving up and not being open to the possibility that the next one I meet might finally be the one for me.

Remember, Fear is the Mind Killer....

So...This is why I'm brain dead, eh?


...TO LIVE ONE MONTH AS A WOMAN...

Sorry, can't do that. When I'm mad at someone, I =tell= them, and =why=.

Heh, I couldn't resist that one. :)


I THINK MARK TWAIN SAYS THIS. (NOT EXACT WORD)."A MAN DON'T PAY FOR SEX, HE PAYS FOR HER TO GO AWAY AFTER SEX)

Gotta love Twain. Whoever said it, it explains where I went wrong in all of my 'relationships'.


That and the fact that women tend to be drawn to men that are bad for them over and over again, and wind up getting screwed up mentally and emotionally to the point where when a decent compatible guy does come along, they find some way of messing it up either through fear of committment or even manufacturing problems in the relationship....Or there abused and are so used to abuse its all they think they deserve and cant be comfortable in a normal relationship.......

*Sigh* It appears we know/date/love the same women.

Over a recent dinner, I told "The Wife" (A title, not a relationship) that women tend to treat their relationships much as they do their cars. They typically desire the muscle cars or misfits (Like a Camaro or Yugo) rather than anything practical or long-lasting. After a period wherein they extole the virtues of the new ride to their friends, saying how great it is and how much fun, they start to ponder new seat covers or how they might have preferred a different color or model.

As small issues begin to develop, they turn up the radio and ignore them. When serious problems surface, they will complain about them to everyone on the planet =except= the one person that can fix it. Finally, when it blows up in their face, they will abandon it by the side of the road and spend the rest of their lives blaming the =car=.

She sat there, staring at me in silence for a bit, and then said "My god! I can't find any flaws in that analogy!" Since then, she's been afraid to have dinner with me.


Anyway, what tricks are basically paying any escort for is a TEMPORARY FANTASY.

Yet, to some small number of us, it is not a fantasy but some small way of having a 'relationship' that clearly hasn't worked otherwise in the normal routine of things.


If you don't enjoy the work, do you really have that much trouble finding another job?

While it may be easy for some to utter "Would you like fries with that?", the rest of us have mortgages, car payments, heating bills, etc. that Quag's (McDonald's) will never satisfy. Add to that the barrage of meds and aftermarket enhancements that are on the lists of most of the gurls, and 'finding another job' is damned near impossible. What if the gurl has other health issues? Oops! No national health care, remember? Going to school? Fuggetaboudit. Would you like to supersize that?

Personally, I hate my job in the real world and wish I had peddled my ass when I was nineteen and hunky (Though, at the start of the AIDS crisis, I surely would have been dead long before now), but I am trapped in it by lack of education (I have neither time nor funds to continue) and a benefits package that I simply can't ignore. So, while I am not an escort, yes, I would have trouble finding another job. Employment is relative to one's situation and it is rare that otherwise sound advice as "Look for another job" can actually be heeded.


Even when dealing with someone that they truly care about, escorts tend to occupy themselves with schemes entailing numerous forms of manipulation. In short, manipulation, lying, and deception become a way of life.

You've just described many of my ex-gf's (And all of my business partners, but that's another story) none of whom were escorts. Perhaps it's a women-are-from-Venus thing.


If a Job oppertunity comes to light, will you turn it down?

Basically would you rather have;

A) $12 an hour honest pay with your pride?

or

B) $200 an hour where you have to swallow your pride and post about how "degrading it is"?

Would you rather work ten hours a day or only two for your goals? Again, it's all relative (And here I am speaking as one who drooled with desire to work for Boston's "T" back when it was paying a measly $10 an hour in the seventies).


This topic evolved from it's original question, I apologize for my part in that, but I'm glad we discussed it.............

Odd, how conversations evolve that way.


What is the typical loser trick?

Hmm...<Waving hand>...I might qualify. I'm 48, overweight (But not overly so, and I've been losing some of late), geeky, socially inept, yada, yada, yada. You know the drill. I've been with more women (GGs) in the last twenty years than most men =dream= about in a lifetime and enough men to effectively question my sexuality. Yet, not more than eight years ago, I got kicked in the head by a GG 'lover' that so damaged my psyche that I am not likely to ever have a satisfying 'relationship' (With man, woman, or 'tweener') ever again. So, in recent years/months I have turned to the companionship provided by escorts. Bonus points that I scored both tits =and= a dick in the same date. :) For me, they provide companionship, someone I can talk to without worrying if I'm offending them, some down-n-dirty fucking and sucking that requires only a basic amount of negotiation, and in the end, I don't have to worry about the typical schizophrenic, game-playing, psycho bullshit that I have been buried in by every past 'realtionship' I've had the misfortune to experience. And trust me, the $2-300 an hour 'donation' is far cheaper than the extended therapy, psychotropic meds, lost wages, etc. inherent to the average 'normal relationship'. And I've yet to meet the TS escort that inspired thougths of suicide.


I own a drill and circular saw, I shop at home depot...

Ah, Danielle, you know the =true= 'toy store'. :)

As to the rest of your post...Oh my!


Funny shit. I predict 10 more pages for this thread.

Am I laughing? No. And there's only six more to go, wiseass.


... anyone who reads posts has some shit wrong with them...trsut me... its a proven science

And so it is, Danielle.

With that, I will take a breather having read only to page 9 so far.

Vicki Richter
05-24-2006, 02:34 AM
Something about this board makes people open up. I didn't even know that stuff about Danielle and I'm one of her better friends. That is just wrong D... Very sorry to hear all that chica. I don't know how the mind works to reverse an upbringing like that, but you have to try I think. I don't think TS are hated. I think we are misunderstood. The few articulate girls like yourself and Yasmin, Allanah, etc can do a lot of good. What you said is good for an Oprah. In fact, I would send that story to Oprah and you'd probably get on the show. When people hear tales of incredible sadness like that they can put their hearts out to people or even a social group... in this case transsexuals. This is what a documentary should be about. People don't know us or understand us and I bet they would be very interested.

I know it's hard but a little at a time you know?

Love ya,

V

ps - I used to dress in my sisters cloths when I was 6 and we used to play with her Barbies and horses for years. My mom took some pictures somewhere. I think I will find and post it.

Onyx
05-24-2006, 07:13 AM
I love transexual cock in my ass, so can we please stop bickering and get back to seeing hard cocks.

Trogdor
05-24-2006, 08:57 AM
Something about this board makes people open up. I didn't even know that stuff about Danielle and I'm one of her better friends. That is just wrong D... Very sorry to hear all that chica. I don't know how the mind works to reverse an upbringing like that, but you have to try I think. I don't think TS are hated. I think we are misunderstood. The few articulate girls like yourself and Yasmin, Allanah, etc can do a lot of good. What you said is good for an Oprah. In fact, I would send that story to Oprah and you'd probably get on the show. When people hear tales of incredible sadness like that they can put their hearts out to people or even a social group... in this case transsexuals. This is what a documentary should be about. People don't know us or understand us and I bet they would be very interested.

I know it's hard but a little at a time you know?

Love ya,


you outta get your own show.....you'd give dr phil a run for his money. and get more male viewers

V

ps - I used to dress in my sisters cloths when I was 6 and we used to play with her Barbies and horses for years. My mom took some pictures somewhere. I think I will find and post it. :wink:

Trogdor
05-24-2006, 08:58 AM
Something about this board makes people open up. I didn't even know that stuff about Danielle and I'm one of her better friends. That is just wrong D... Very sorry to hear all that chica. I don't know how the mind works to reverse an upbringing like that, but you have to try I think. I don't think TS are hated. I think we are misunderstood. The few articulate girls like yourself and Yasmin, Allanah, etc can do a lot of good. What you said is good for an Oprah. In fact, I would send that story to Oprah and you'd probably get on the show. When people hear tales of incredible sadness like that they can put their hearts out to people or even a social group... in this case transsexuals. This is what a documentary should be about. People don't know us or understand us and I bet they would be very interested.

I know it's hard but a little at a time you know?

Love ya,




V

ps - I used to dress in my sisters cloths when I was 6 and we used to play with her Barbies and horses for years. My mom took some pictures somewhere. I think I will find and post it. :wink:


you outta get your own show.....you'd give dr phil a run for his money. and get more male viewers

YasminLee
05-24-2006, 12:04 PM
MEGA SWEETIE..U REALLY NEED TO BE MORE CONSIDERATE IN PICKING YOUR TOPICS TO STIR UP FOR YOUR ENTERTAINMENT..WE ARE ON THIS BOARD NOT JUST FOR FUN BUT UNDERSTANDING, LOVE, AND SUPPORT FROM ONE ANOTHER...WHAT U SAID AND HOPEFULLY NOT TRUELY BELEIVE REALLY HIT ME HARD..NO ONE LIKES TO BE JUDGE...PERIOD..I'M SURE I'M NOT ALONE ON THIS...WE ALL HAVE HURDLES TO JUMP IN LIFE...I'M GONNA WORK REALLY HARD TO CLEAR MINE...WHAT MAKES ME OK AT THE END OF EACH DAY WITH OUR HARDSHIP AS A TRANSSEXUAL IS THAT IS LIVING LIFE...NOT JUST LIVING

Danielle Foxxx
05-24-2006, 12:42 PM
I could not help myself...ROFFL

There's a place in
Your heart
And I know that it is love
And this place could
Be much
Brighter than tomorrow
And if you really try
You'll find there's no need
To cry
In this place you'll feel
There's no hurt or sorrow

There are ways
To get there
If you care enough
For the living
Make a little space
Make a better place...

Heal the world
Make it a better place
For you and for me
And the entire human race
There are people dying
If you care enough
For the living
Make a better place
For you and for me

If you want to know why
There's a love that
Cannot lie
Love is strong
It only cares of
Joyful giving
If we try
We shall see
In this bliss
We cannot feel
Fear or dread
We stop existing and
Start living

Then it feels that always
Love's enough for
Us growing
So make a better world
Make a better world...

Heal the world
Make it a better place
For you and for me
And the entire human race
There are people dying
If you care enough
For the living
Make a better place
For you and for me

And the dream we were
Conceived in
Will reveal a joyful face
And the world we
Once believed in
Will shine again in grace
Then why do we keep
Strangling life
Wound this earth
Crucify its soul
Though it's plain to see
This world is heavenly
Be God's glow

We could fly so high
Let our spirits never die
In my heart
I feel you are all
My brothers
Create a world with
No fear
Together we cry
Happy tears
See the nations turn
Their swords
Into plowshares

We could really get there
If you cared enough
For the living
Make a little space
To make a better place...

Heal the world
Make it a better place
For you and for me
And the entire human race
There are people dying
If you care enough
For the living
Make a better place
For you and for me

Heal the world
Make it a better place
For you and for me
And the entire human race
There are people dying
If you care enough
For the living
Make a better place
For you and for me

Heal the world
Make it a better place
For you and for me
And the entire human race
There are people dying
If you care enough
For the living
Make a better place
For you and for me

There are people dying
If you care enough
For the living
Make a better place
For you and for me

There are people dying
If you care enough
For the living
Make a better place
For you and for me

Buddy Wood
05-24-2006, 01:24 PM
I just read this whole fucking thread when I should be editing so I figured I should at least chime in. I have a pretty unique perspective on the topic being that I make porn and have met and hung out with many many girls - that and I had dated transsexuals way before I ever thought of getting into porn so it's not just porn-guy perspective. But it's a tough fucking life! No doubt about it. I actually think that's part of my attraction to t-girls. The appreciation for what it's taken not just to become who they are physically - but also just to have dealt with all the other shit. To have just done it. And the girls that don't just deal with the reality of how society percieves them - but that take advantage of it and turn it into a living or what they can out of it - should never never be faulted. It's the world we live in and hopefully it'll get better when more guys start actually dating girls and treating them like girls.

And I just wanted to say Danielle that was a pretty intense story - and did you really just write that on the fly??? That was script worthy. If you're not writing your memoirs - you should be.

Buddy Wood

andrea744
05-24-2006, 01:31 PM
wow wow danielle you know all song do you sing? can you sing fro me?
:D

mkfreesite
05-24-2006, 03:09 PM
I just read this whole fucking thread when I should be editing so I figured I should at least chime in. I have a pretty unique perspective on the topic being that I make porn and have met and hung out with many many girls - that and I had dated transsexuals way before I ever thought of getting into porn so it's not just porn-guy perspective. But it's a tough fucking life! No doubt about it. I actually think that's part of my attraction to t-girls. The appreciation for what it's taken not just to become who they are physically - but also just to have dealt with all the other shit. To have just done it. And the girls that don't just deal with the reality of how society percieves them - but that take advantage of it and turn it into a living or what they can out of it - should never never be faulted. It's the world we live in and hopefully it'll get better when more guys start actually dating girls and treating them like girls.

And I just wanted to say Danielle that was a pretty intense story - and did you really just write that on the fly??? That was script worthy. If you're not writing your memoirs - you should be.

Buddy Wood

i saw the trailer for your movie...looks very good

back to the subject matter in hand......

escorting for you ladies that actually do is something that you would do even if you ladies had a boyfriend..??
one escort out of the two i've been with .. which is not many at all actually had a boyfriend ... is this common?
and if so do the men feel that an escorting shemale is an attraction?

DeathFox
05-24-2006, 03:30 PM
^ No, those men feel they can take money from them

Onyx
05-24-2006, 06:14 PM
fuck that I don't get escorts that shit is for complete losers

BeardedOne
05-24-2006, 06:22 PM
fuck that I don't get escorts that shit is for complete losers

Maybe so, but so far they've treated me better than most of my past 'lovers'.

I may be a loser, but it's nice to know that some people will overlook that for a while (Even if I have to pay them to do so).

Onyx
05-24-2006, 07:04 PM
fuck that I don't get escorts that shit is for complete losers

Maybe so, but so far they've treated me better than most of my past 'lovers'.

I may be a loser, but it's nice to know that some people will overlook that for a while (Even if I have to pay them to do so).

well it all works out. guys with low self-esteem helping t-girls with low self-esteem and vice versa depending on how you look at it.

Onyx
05-24-2006, 07:58 PM
fuck that I don't get escorts that shit is for complete losersYou make yourself out to be a bigger jackass w/ every post. Wasn't your title established as thee ultimate douchbag on this board when you made fun of Danielle for getting raped when she was a kid?

I didn't make fun of her I just don't beleive her ridiculous story and I'll post a picture as soon as I get one

Onyx
05-24-2006, 08:08 PM
fuck that I don't get escorts that shit is for complete losersYou make yourself out to be a bigger jackass w/ every post. Wasn't your title established as thee ultimate douchbag on this board when you made fun of Danielle for getting raped when she was a kid?

I didn't make fun of her I just don't beleive her ridiculous story and I'll post a picture as soon as I get oneWill that be before or after you say, "Let's rock"? :lol:

haha, I don't know, I might have to power up my "GODLY BLAST"

BeardedOne
05-24-2006, 08:33 PM
It's not even a matter of self-esteem in my case. In fact, much to the surprise and confusion of the psych-types, I have a comparitively high self-esteem. It's the general population I don't have a very lofty regard for. Hence why I see professionals rather than continue courting the average psycho from a singles bar or the mall.

And the TS escorts I know are pretty sharp in that regard as well, particularly if you get them talking about their favorite specialties (Outside the bedroom). One is very attuned to business management (Owns her own production company) while the other is adept at computer hardware and software tweaking. If they've got low self-esteem, I haven't seen it.

Onyx
05-24-2006, 08:42 PM
fuck that I don't get escorts that shit is for complete losersYou make yourself out to be a bigger jackass w/ every post. Wasn't your title established as thee ultimate douchbag on this board when you made fun of Danielle for getting raped when she was a kid?I didn't make fun of her I just don't beleive her ridiculous story:roll:

Why don't you just admit that you're not used to hearing truthes like this, and that you've lived a sheltered life?

Just because I didn't grow up in a third world country and wasn't raped at age 7 several times makes me 'sheltered'? Damn I guess a lot more people are 'sheltered' than they know.

I've seen some fucked up shit before in my day, trust me, you don't have to be a transexual to go through some shit, but her story just seems exaggerated and maybe fabricated for attention.

BeardedOne
05-24-2006, 08:56 PM
Why don't you just admit that you're not used to hearing truthes like this, and that you've lived a sheltered life?

While Danielle's revelations may seem heady stuff that is worthy of the pulp rack at the corner newsstand, I've seen/experienced enough to know not to poke fun at it.

There's actually been times when I wondered if there are people in this world who have =not= been mollested, arrested, raped, beaten, shot at, robbed, burgled, abused... :x Feh! The list is endless. Of the above list, rape is the only one I have had the good fortune to avoid (Unless you count financial rape by crooked or incompetent business associates).

Throw in variants like homosexuality and transgenderism and the probability that any one or more of these horrors has occured to these gurls goes through the roof. Live in the conservative south? Double the odds. Orthodox family? Double them again.

True, there are a lot of people here on HA that will joke and sass about anything and everything under the sun. Claiming they've been raped as a child isn't one of them. And if you think such a claim is far-fetched, how about a five-year old that complains to her sister that the boys at the high school promised her a dollar if she blew them and then they didn't pay her after she did? Or maybe we can get a laugh out of the mother that went to jail because the perverted dick she took as her second husband touched up her twelve-year old daughter. Oh, wait, here's a good one: An intersexed boi that falls in love with the first guy that accepts him as the gender he is comfortable in and then said guy pimps him out to all of his friends to rape and torture him, all before he turned sixteen.

Yah, right, I don't laugh at shit like that. Ever. Especially since all of the above are true and happened to people I know and truly care about.

Shit. My blood pressure's up. Time for a break. :soapbox

PS: Unless you consider New Jersey, Connecticut, and Texas 'third world', this stuff can happen anywhere.

dabaldone
05-24-2006, 09:10 PM
Okay, I was going to stay out of this one but...... Ladies, I know that it is extremely difficult to transition. The choice to become who you truly are, no matter what crap society throws at you shows tremendous strength of character. Society pushes you ladies to the bottom and men take advantage of that. But some TS's ALLOW men to take advantage.

Now, I agree with some points Yasmine made. Most men go thru alot of soul searching when they realize they are attracted to TS women. They go back and forth and aren't ready to deal with all of the issues that pop up. If you don't know who you are or how to deal with the questions of sexuality, family profession ect., how can you be in a relationship with ANYONE? I went thru alot myself. There was nowhere and no one I could turn to get advice. So most men suffer alone. I use the word "suffer" because in my heart I knew what I wanted. But, societal morals, family tradition and values forced me AND my brother to deny how we felt and do what was "expected. We got married and had children, knowing all the while we prefered TS women.

My brother and I dated TS women for years, keeping it a secret from everyone. When I finally decided that I was tired of lying to myself, I got divorced and became who I truly was. You ladies have support groups or talk to one another about your issues. How many men on this board talk to their brothers or friends about the women they prefer? It took 15yrs before my brother and I even knew we had the same preference. Men have no where to turn.

I was in a LTR with a TS for 3 years. We dated and met each others families. She even helped me raise my youngest son. Both my sons loved her to death. I paid all of the bills and gave her a new car to drive. All of the money she made was her own. My job requires travel about 60% of the time and I make GREAT money. But, just like JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel said, she started gossiping with other girls. Then hanging around with her escorting friends and became just like them.

But she wanted to do her dirt and stay with me WTF!? A real man would never tolerate that behavior. In fact, she was escorting while I was on an extended business trip. Someone sent me an email with her Eros ad. Now Yasmine all ment don't want a young chippe. I'm 41yrs old and I DO NOT want a 20 something woman. They are too immature and too easily influenced by their so-called friends. I'm lucky though, I met a TS who happens to be an attorney during a business trip. She made me realize that all TS's are not the same.

BeardedOne
05-24-2006, 09:12 PM
She already has more than you'll probably ever know.

On a lighter note, she certainly has mine. And that was =before= she posted that history. :)

Onyx
05-24-2006, 09:50 PM
Just because I didn't grow up in a third world country and wasn't raped at age 7 several times makes me 'sheltered'? Damn I guess a lot more people are 'sheltered' than they know.You're right about that.


I've seen some fucked up shit before in my day, trust me, you don't have to be a transexual to go through some shit, Really? Like what?

but her story just seems exaggerated and maybe fabricated for attention.First, you think you're absolved from being a loser because you would never see an escort. And then you say some weak crap about how you've seen some "fucked up shit". Please...

Maybe it's you that needs attention. She already has more than you'll probably ever know.

I don't feel like this is a place where I should post illegal shit I have seen or been involved with. I was just defending myself after being called 'sheltered', though either side of that argument is pretty futile on the internet.

I'm not looking for attention, I'm just saying I don't beleive her story, sorry if that offends anyone, but I don't believe everything I read.

Onyx
05-24-2006, 09:53 PM
On a lighter note, she certainly has mine. And that was =before= she posted that history. :)Co-sign.

ONYX: Do you go around calling alot of cute girls liars? Does that line usually work? ;)

honestly if I was a party or some shit and some girl was telling that story, I would definitely think she was out for attention.

Onyx
05-24-2006, 10:17 PM
I don't feel like this is a place where I should post illegal shit I have seen or been involved with. I was just defending myself after being called 'sheltered', though either side of that argument is pretty futile on the internet.

I'm not looking for attention, I'm just saying I don't beleive her story, sorry if that offends anyone, but I don't believe everything I read.But it's an ok place to call people liars, right? :roll:

Oh, well. Nobody can fool you I guess. I'll have to refer to your worldly wisdom in the future because you're such a great judge of character. With all this hush-hush stuff about the crimes you don't want to mention, I bet you must be one really slick dude. :lol:

Like I said, I don't want attention for anything I've done, and if I choose not to beleive something I read on the internet that's my perogative wouldn't you say?

Onyx
05-24-2006, 10:58 PM
Like I said, I don't want attention for anything I've done, and if I choose not to beleive something I read on the internet that's my perogative wouldn't you say?Yeah, ok. And I think you're sheltered and you're bluffing about this illegal stuff. Your quote makes you seem kinda goofy. <~ So that was my perogative to tell you that. So what?

But rape is a pretty serious thing for you to just call somebody a liar about. You'd have to either be a really shrewd person to make such a bold accusation or just a total dipshit. My guess is that you're unfortunately a dipshit. Hey, don't feel bad. You're not alone on this board. ;) <~So I guess you essentially asked to hear that, w/ this whole "perogative" thing you like so much. :lol:

that's definitely not my quote, it came from a longer story that I found hilarious because of how absurd it is.

and yeah you don't have to beleive anything I say either, I'm not here to talk about my personal life. You can think of me as a dipshit all you want.

Onyx
05-24-2006, 11:05 PM
You can think of me as a dipshit all you want.Thanks! :P

No problem! :P

tslvr
05-24-2006, 11:53 PM
I have been reading this thread and agreeing w/ some and disagreeing w/ others. I think we can all agree on a couple of basic points here: 1) Life for a TS is definitely difficult no matter what...escort or not, society causes most problems for them; 2) Each and every guy(and I mean all) on this board is here because we like going to bed with TS's. We can yell all we want or try to be supportive of the community, but the fact is that we really want to have sex w/ the girls...

Onyx
05-24-2006, 11:55 PM
I have been reading this thread and agreeing w/ some and disagreeing w/ others. I think we can all agree on a couple of basic points here: 1) Life for a TS is definitely difficult no matter what...escort or not, society causes most problems for them; 2) Each and every guy(and I mean all) on this board is here because we like going to bed with TS's. We can yell all we want or try to be supportive of the community, but the fact is that we really want to have sex w/ the girls...

I don't know man I just like the pictures

stillies77
05-24-2006, 11:55 PM
In a way its the only way for most guys who love Tgirls to meet a tgirl...most guys are either A. Scared to look in a gay club...or B. just clueless (like me) on where to even look for a Tgirl to hang out with, talk to, or even have sex with. Making escorts their only option...i know because i am all of the above. And i still have resisted the urge to get an escort...so im just on the outside hoping to fulfill my tgirl fantasy one day...

BeardedOne
05-25-2006, 12:30 AM
I don't know man I just like the pictures

There's pictures? :shock:

I'm just here to read the articles. :lol:

Felicia Katt
05-25-2006, 02:49 AM
Onyx, Danielle is a very good friend of mine, and she doesn't lie to get attention. She doesn't have to do anything to get more attention than she wants. She had shared her past with me and a few close friends, but she doesn't advertize it. Why would she? She doesn't benefit from sharing her story here, but others and their understanding of this issue might. Teri Hatcher just came forward in a magazine about her past sexual abuse. I suppose she is a liar, just doing it to get attention too?
You started by laughing at something that was not funny, and now you are compounding that original misstep by judging others where you have no information

As Lincold said:
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.

FK

YasminLee
05-25-2006, 03:29 AM
ONYX, U HAVE EVERY RIGHTS TO NOT WANNA BE WITH AN ESCORT..THAT IS WHAT U PREFER AND WE RESPECT THAT..WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS AND OPINIONS ON THESE ISSUES, BUT NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF U JUDGING OTHERS...WE SHOULD KNOW BY NOW, THAT NOTHING IS BLACK AND WHITE...WE ARE ALL DIFFERENT...THESE DIFFERENCES SHOULD BE EMBRACED, NOT MOCKED

yosi
05-25-2006, 11:43 AM
Ladies, I know that it is extremely difficult to transition. The choice to become who you truly are, no matter what crap society throws at you shows tremendous strength of character. Society pushes you ladies to the bottom and men take advantage of that. But some TS's ALLOW men to take advantage.

.

I totaly agree with that.

this thread , more than any other thread show how different you are from each other , it was a great opportunity for me to read your honset opinions , with some of them I agreed , with others I didn't , but it a great forum where you ladies can show who you realy are , and many readers who only read but do not react can see that shemales are humans just like anyone else.

I hope this kind of threads will also change something in the society's opinions about shemales.

*sorry for my bad english :wink:

BlackAdder
05-25-2006, 08:27 PM
I was gonna give Onyx some flak, but hey, Arriana is doing a splendid job for me lol...


"We can yell all we want or try to be supportive of the community, but the fact is that we really want to have sex w/ the girls..."

@Tsluver

Hmm...well maybe thats what your thinking...Sorry though, I dont see people as objects just to have sex with......Sex is SOO easy to get.....I could get a different girl every night if i wanted to but theres no fucking sense in that....Maybe its just an age thing, but i kicked over that kind of drive long ago.

trannilover
05-26-2006, 03:59 AM
Most ts are escorts sweetie.i would say at least 90%. When a # is this high..u have to wonder why? it's a balance of power for most..ts are forced and push by society to the bottom..making a living becomes even more difficult in an already competitive market...most of us are tire of fighting..subconciously we do what any human would...find the easy way out in order to survive..that's in our gene...then there's love...a universal quest..there is no denying that love in the guys in a ts relationship is very uncommon...most guys do not want to suffer the wrath of "transsexualism" They want in for the fun and then out...Ts will will learn about this at a very early stage in their transition...and so the balance of power..Most decide not to be used and make arrangement for guys that wanna engage with them...after a while..it's routine and becomes a lifestyle...and so i think...at least i can confirm this for myself and all of my friends....

absolutely positevely well said jasmin......
as usual you brains turn me on even more than your exquisite beauty.
i couldnt have said it better myself, although that is just about exactly what i would have written....

and i might ad gentlemen, that as yasmin states above, it is you 'tranny-chasers' that further push these women into escorting...they are capable of falling in love like anyone else...BUT ARE YOU!!!!!!!!!

IF ALL YOU ARE GOING TO DO IS LOOK AT THEM AS A FLING AND HIDE THEM WHEN YOU DO DATE THEM.....
THEN HELL! THEY SHOULD CHARGE MEN!!!!
SO MANY OF YOU LOOK AT THEM AS ONLY AN OBJECT, SO WHY BOTHER!

HAND THE OBJECT YOUR MONEY, DO YOUR THING, AND GO BACK HOME TO YOUR STRAIGHT STUPID LIFE.....

WHO KNOWS...YOU MIGHT HAVE JUST LEFT THE LOVE OF YOUR LIFE....THAT IS IF YOU SAW HER AS A PERSON AND NOT AN OBJECT..................

strawberry
03-20-2007, 11:57 PM
BUMP!

So I was wandering through the old archives. This thread came up when I searched for "love AND ltr" and... wow.

I don't really have anything to add. I stayed away from sex work... and a job as a therapist... and a job with the police... all for the same reason. I think all those professions can potentially be admirable and rewarding, but I was afraid of exposing myself to lots of people every day for years in the moments they hide from the world rather than those that they're proud of. Plus (I realize more every day) I was just incredibly lucky and sheltered to grow up with rich and liberal parents (like, they paid for both my surgeries and thereby helped me avoid all kinds of tough choices).

Anyway, I just thought this thread was incredibly honest and maybe other people would also get get something out of seeing it, or seeing it again.

tsmandy
03-21-2007, 12:09 AM
I was just incredibly lucky and sheltered to grow up with rich and liberal parents (like, they paid for both my surgeries and thereby helped me avoid all kinds of tough choices).


Do they want to adopt a second daughter?

Caleigh
03-21-2007, 12:20 AM
The problem with any kind of study to try and find out how
many TS are in porn/escorting and how many have "straight"
jobs is that most of the girls with 9/5 jobs are basically stealth
and aren't connected to the rest of the TS world. For Yasmin
Lee to say that most of the girls that she knows are escorts
just means that, that she mostly socializes with other escorts.
That doesn't mean at all that most TS are escorts. Of the
TS women that I know fairly well, half a dozen, none of them
are escorts.

It IS hard for TS to break through the barriers and get a
"normal" job but it's not impossible. I think the problem is that
if you are debating between getting $300 for an hours work
or getting $10/hr it's a tough decision. Only girls that totally
reject porn/escorting as a possibility are going to then have
the perserverance to get a job, maybe below their skill level,
in the "straight" world.

I had to take a job as a busgirl at a restaurant when I moved
here to NYC when a year before I had been program director
for a rehabilitation program for children with special needs.
It was quite the step down but you do what you have to do.

foxxyyvonne
03-21-2007, 01:01 AM
I work with computers and therefore make my own hours and such and don't have to worry about a 9 to 5 job, and prejudices that may be encountered. I'n my small town everyone is just happy I'm there to fix their computers.

Pacman
03-21-2007, 01:18 AM
The problem isn't so much that they can't get real jobs, it's just difficult to turn down easy money. Anybody can get a job. I went to a temp agency a few months ago and had a job that same day. But I was loading heavy boxes into semi trucks for 8-12 hours a day for $8/hour.

I can't really blame someone for choosing a job that makes $200+/hour, but at the same time these girls can't say there's no way they can get a regular job.

tsmandy
03-21-2007, 04:21 AM
The problem isn't so much that they can't get real jobs, it's just difficult to turn down easy money.

When I first read some of these posts (just like so many other on this web board) about escorting I had to walk away from my computer for a while. I don't understand what makes you or any other guy think working as a provider is "easy money".

I also don't understand why it is so important for people who are not sex workers to understand why we do it. I found that once I was able to work through all the bullshit negativity and hype surrounding it, it could be rather rewarding.

We are people. Some of us are smart, some of us are dumb. Some of us old, some of us young. Some of us are poor and some of us are rich. Some of us are cool (a lot of us are cool), some of us are a drag.

Some of us are writers, artists, and musicians trying to make enough money to support our creative projects. Some of us are trying to support drug habits, some of us are trying to pay for surgery, some of us are trying to pay for childcare.

So don't lump us all together and try to figure out "why". If we interest you, then get to know who we are.

http://tsmandy.escortwww.com/inside.php
http://mandytgirl.com

sooner99
03-21-2007, 05:00 AM
I agree with you, Sexy YasminLee, someday when we are all free to live as one will this happen..
SHEMALE;)LOVE Openly

mikey_stl
03-21-2007, 08:38 AM
I'm far from an expert on how many T-girls are escorts, or what percentage, etc. I've hung out in T-girl bars when traveling, talked to different girls, participated in forums like these, and I'd say that the majority are not escorts.

It seems to me that a lot of the t-girl escorts are foreign-born and I suspect are illegal immigrants. Just look at eros.com and see how many of the girls are latina or some other nationality. It's the same in many of the bars. Foreigners, who may not have job skills, may be from impoverished countries, may not have language skills, may be poorly educated don't have a lot of choices. So they turn to escorting or porn.

Also, some of the T-girls I've met seem to do hooking part-time. They might have another job, get disability, foodstamps, etc., and just supplement their income on the weekends by turning a trick or two. Most of them probably live pretty frugally. You probably won't see their pics on eros.com or porn sites, but they probably are a lot more prevalent than the higher-end escorts that you see on eros.com.

Some who are passable and live in stealth hold down regular jobs and no one even knows about their transitioning. Or maybe they aren't passable, but nobody cares. I used to go to a straight neighborhood bar where a t-girl was the bartender. Because of her voice, most people who went to the bar knew she was a t-girl, but nobody really cared. She was friendly, she was fun, and she flashed her tits every once in awhile when things got a little dull.

In the city I live in there are maybe a couple dozen t-girl escorts that advertise regularly. I'm sure that in a metro area of 2 million there are a lot more t-girls that simply live "normal" lives (i.e. working at non-sexual jobs). In fact, I see a lady every so often that appears to be a t-girl working in normal places, presumably leading "normal" lives.

I suspect that that category is the vast majority. Most t-girls can find some way to survive without escorting. Escorting is a tough way to live -- you have to worry about cops, disease, crazies, etc. Most people -- gg, tg, male -- couldn't handle it. I'm not sure if anyone's ever studied tg prostitutes, but gg prostitutes, strippers, and other sex workers have a much higher incidence of having been sexually abused as children. I suspect that the same is true of many tg sex workers. The ones who had more conventional upbringings aren't as likely to turn to escorting.

Shining Star
03-24-2007, 12:07 AM
I'm far from an expert on how many T-girls are escorts, or what percentage, etc. I've hung out in T-girl bars when traveling, talked to different girls, participated in forums like these, and I'd say that the majority are not escorts.

It seems to me that a lot of the t-girl escorts are foreign-born and I suspect are illegal immigrants. Just look at eros.com and see how many of the girls are latina or some other nationality. It's the same in many of the bars. Foreigners, who may not have job skills, may be from impoverished countries, may not have language skills, may be poorly educated don't have a lot of choices. So they turn to escorting or porn.

Also, some of the T-girls I've met seem to do hooking part-time. They might have another job, get disability, foodstamps, etc., and just supplement their income on the weekends by turning a trick or two. Most of them probably live pretty frugally. You probably won't see their pics on eros.com or porn sites, but they probably are a lot more prevalent than the higher-end escorts that you see on eros.com.

Some who are passable and live in stealth hold down regular jobs and no one even knows about their transitioning. Or maybe they aren't passable, but nobody cares. I used to go to a straight neighborhood bar where a t-girl was the bartender. Because of her voice, most people who went to the bar knew she was a t-girl, but nobody really cared. She was friendly, she was fun, and she flashed her tits every once in awhile when things got a little dull.

In the city I live in there are maybe a couple dozen t-girl escorts that advertise regularly. I'm sure that in a metro area of 2 million there are a lot more t-girls that simply live "normal" lives (i.e. working at non-sexual jobs). In fact, I see a lady every so often that appears to be a t-girl working in normal places, presumably leading "normal" lives.

I suspect that that category is the vast majority. Most t-girls can find some way to survive without escorting. Escorting is a tough way to live -- you have to worry about cops, disease, crazies, etc. Most people -- gg, tg, male -- couldn't handle it. I'm not sure if anyone's ever studied tg prostitutes, but gg prostitutes, strippers, and other sex workers have a much higher incidence of having been sexually abused as children. I suspect that the same is true of many tg sex workers. The ones who had more conventional upbringings aren't as likely to turn to escorting.First of all, not all trannie "escorts" are "foreign" born or "illegal". If one scouts the adverts that may be a reasonable conclusion to make, but that is because as with everything else there are various levels of escorting and ways of finding customers. Just as with high level GGs and male escorts there is a network of trannies who work a certian level of clientele either though contacts and or an agency/service. When you think about it advertising is NOT the best way to go about escorting as it instantly alerts one's neighbors, friends and of course LE as to what one is up to; thus further one can fly below radar the better. There are just as many rich and famous men looking to get their freak on as poor/middle class ones. However those men are not likely to just call/pick up anyone, well Eddy Murphy and Hugh Grant did and look how that ended.


There are many reasons for why so many minority trannies populate the adverts, and it is a topic that comes up frequently. The general theory is that many of these girls have either been cast out of their homes (because of their sexuality), and or aged out of foster care (if not thrown out, again because of their sexuality), and simply find escorting like many before them an easy if not the best way to make a living. Sadly what else is there for a poor/lower middle class or even middle class gay or trannie with little, no or poor education and about the same in social skills. NYC to it's credit at least set up a school for GLT children, but it is a drop in the bucket as to services needed. It also came as no surprise to many, especially those in the gay community when several of those students were arrested for attacking persons in Greenwhich Village and that many of those same students had arrest records for prossing pages long. This simply reinforced what many, including gay males think about trannies; they are all "thugs", sex workers and generally people they'd rather not associate or be associated with.

As to who works and who does not, again that question comes up often and it generally seems to come down to a mix of background and social status. If one is white, middle class and or above chances are you will grow up in a secure home with loving parents and receive all that comes with such an upbringing, including a quality education. You will also have access to many thing simply not available to others in lower social classes. That access and education have allowed white gay males to pretty much go from being "minority" status to even footing with their straight male counterparts in terms of income and in some areas social status.

For certian trannies escorting goes against what they believe in and how they were bought up. Happily for them if they received the benefits of the aforementioned upbringing and education they can get on with out resorting to prossing. These individuals also are keenly aware of their rights/and or how to use the system to their benefit (just as gay males have done). The recent case of a local Florida government official fighting a public battle to keep her job and have the state/local area pay for her transitioning is a recent example, but there are others. There are pre and post op trannies in many walks of life, from LE to sanitation (no lie, there is a post op trannie garbarge person in NYC), less one thinks less of the latter example, you have no idea how good a job civil service can be especially when health and other benefits are factored in.

Now is picking up trash any where as glamourous as escorting? Probably not, but the later has a much more secure future than the former. I'm not saying many GLT people haven't at one time or another "dated", heck some very famous people have done so if rumours are to believed. The point is escorting rarely in of itself builds any sort of stable and secure future. Yes, one can earn vast sums of money, but that is not the same as building wealth, and in any event for a large percentage of those working that money goes as fast as it comes. In the end most end their productive careers with very little to show for the mental, physical and emotional toll escorting for years can take.

There is the other factor that while some people may dislike trannies, many more hate escorts/sex workers. Americans have this thing about sex and for some a greater thing about religion. Fallen women - those that would willing sell themselves just gets up these people's backs and they cannot get over it. Being a trannie may not in of itself exclude one from getting a job and or many other things such as going to grad school, but an arrest record and or convictions for crimes of moral turpitude is another matter.

In summation it is probably pride that keeps certian girls from working and or doing so as a last resort and getting out quickly. In an era where anyone can find almost anything about anyone simply by pressing a few buttons, there are few if any secrets anymore. Even if one is only working to say put one self through beauty school, one arrest and conviction can put licensure in danger and possibly name one for all time "the former sex worker....".

mikey_stl
03-24-2007, 01:15 AM
First of all, not all trannie "escorts" are "foreign" born or "illegal". If one scouts the adverts that may be a reasonable conclusion to make, but that is because as with everything else there are various levels of escorting and ways of finding customers. Just as with high level GGs and male escorts there is a network of trannies who work a certian level of clientele either though contacts and or an agency/service. When you think about it advertising is NOT the best way to go about escorting as it instantly alerts one's neighbors, friends and of course LE as to what one is up to; thus further one can fly below radar the better. There are just as many rich and famous men looking to get their freak on as poor/middle class ones. However those men are not likely to just call/pick up anyone, well Eddy Murphy and Hugh Grant did and look how that ended.


There are many reasons for why so many minority trannies populate the adverts, and it is a topic that comes up frequently. The general theory is that many of these girls have either been cast out of their homes (because of their sexuality), and or aged out of foster care (if not thrown out, again because of their sexuality), and simply find escorting like many before them an easy if not the best way to make a living. Sadly what else is there for a poor/lower middle class or even middle class gay or trannie with little, no or poor education and about the same in social skills. NYC to it's credit at least set up a school for GLT children, but it is a drop in the bucket as to services needed. It also came as no surprise to many, especially those in the gay community when several of those students were arrested for attacking persons in Greenwhich Village and that many of those same students had arrest records for prossing pages long. This simply reinforced what many, including gay males think about trannies; they are all "thugs", sex workers and generally people they'd rather not associate or be associated with.

As to who works and who does not, again that question comes up often and it generally seems to come down to a mix of background and social status. If one is white, middle class and or above chances are you will grow up in a secure home with loving parents and receive all that comes with such an upbringing, including a quality education. You will also have access to many thing simply not available to others in lower social classes. That access and education have allowed white gay males to pretty much go from being "minority" status to even footing with their straight male counterparts in terms of income and in some areas social status.

For certian trannies escorting goes against what they believe in and how they were bought up. Happily for them if they received the benefits of the aforementioned upbringing and education they can get on with out resorting to prossing. These individuals also are keenly aware of their rights/and or how to use the system to their benefit (just as gay males have done). The recent case of a local Florida government official fighting a public battle to keep her job and have the state/local area pay for her transitioning is a recent example, but there are others. There are pre and post op trannies in many walks of life, from LE to sanitation (no lie, there is a post op trannie garbarge person in NYC), less one thinks less of the latter example, you have no idea how good a job civil service can be especially when health and other benefits are factored in.

Now is picking up trash any where as glamourous as escorting? Probably not, but the later has a much more secure future than the former. I'm not saying many GLT people haven't at one time or another "dated", heck some very famous people have done so if rumours are to believed. The point is escorting rarely in of itself builds any sort of stable and secure future. Yes, one can earn vast sums of money, but that is not the same as building wealth, and in any event for a large percentage of those working that money goes as fast as it comes. In the end most end their productive careers with very little to show for the mental, physical and emotional toll escorting for years can take.

There is the other factor that while some people may dislike trannies, many more hate escorts/sex workers. Americans have this thing about sex and for some a greater thing about religion. Fallen women - those that would willing sell themselves just gets up these people's backs and they cannot get over it. Being a trannie may not in of itself exclude one from getting a job and or many other things such as going to grad school, but an arrest record and or convictions for crimes of moral turpitude is another matter.

In summation it is probably pride that keeps certian girls from working and or doing so as a last resort and getting out quickly. In an era where anyone can find almost anything about anyone simply by pressing a few buttons, there are few if any secrets anymore. Even if one is only working to say put one self through beauty school, one arrest and conviction can put licensure in danger and possibly name one for all time "the former sex worker....".

First, I never said that all trannie escorts were foreign-born -- I said that a large percentage were. If you look on eros, which represents the higher echelon of escorts, there's a large percentage. If you look at Craigslist,
you'll see an even higher percentage of foreign-born or minority trannies. If you go to bars, clubs, or you look at streetwalkers, you'll see an even higher percentage, most likely. At least that's my observation.

I've travelled and been to tranny bars and clubs throughout the U.S., and I've run into numerous girls who don't speak English. When I speak to them in Spanish, I learn that they're foreign born. I suspect that if he had more lenient immigration laws, many of these girls would get normal jobs, rather than working in the underground economy (i.e. hooking, escorting, whatever you want to call it.)

I also doubt that there's this huge hidden underground of high-class tranny escorts who never advertise. There might be a few who only cater to the wealthy, but they still have to find their clients. Since most wealthy tranny-chasers keep their proclivities very confidential, they have to be able to find these girls somewhere.

I also said that most trannies were NOT sex workers. I agree with you that they are in all walks of life. Even though there's not a large visible transexual population in the city I live in, I run into them periodically in different types of occupations.

sdman
10-09-2010, 10:25 PM
does anyone know what the ratio is of shemales that do escort verses shemales that do not escort and stay in a monogomous relationship?
from the little knowledge that i have learned within the past month of shemales, it seems a majority escort?
true or false?

I wiould say that about 99% of all shemales are escorts or prostitues.

sdman
10-09-2010, 10:26 PM
ONYX, U HAVE EVERY RIGHTS TO NOT WANNA BE WITH AN ESCORT..THAT IS WHAT U PREFER AND WE RESPECT THAT..WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS AND OPINIONS ON THESE ISSUES, BUT NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF U JUDGING OTHERS...WE SHOULD KNOW BY NOW, THAT NOTHING IS BLACK AND WHITE...WE ARE ALL DIFFERENT...THESE DIFFERENCES SHOULD BE EMBRACED, NOT MOCKED

Ive never meet one tranny who was not a escort?

amberskyi
10-09-2010, 11:21 PM
Ive never meet one tranny who was not a escort?
isis king.google it.get smart.lol
i know many more in my personal life but theyre to busy living normal lives to be on a site like this so i doubt youll know them

FreddieGomez
10-09-2010, 11:22 PM
isis king.google it.get smart.lol
i know many more in my personal life but theyre to busy living normal lives to be on a site like this so i doubt youll know them

could you introduce a brotha to some? :)

toopretty
10-09-2010, 11:42 PM
Most ts are escorts sweetie.i would say at least 90%. When a # is this high..u have to wonder why? it's a balance of power for most..ts are forced and push by society to the bottom..making a living becomes even more difficult in an already competitive market...most of us are tire of fighting..subconciously we do what any human would...find the easy way out in order to survive..that's in our gene...then there's love...a universal quest..there is no denying that love in the guys in a ts relationship is very uncommon...most guys do not want to suffer the wrath of "transsexualism" They want in for the fun and then out...Ts will will learn about this at a very early stage in their transition...and so the balance of power..Most decide not to be used and make arrangement for guys that wanna engage with them...after a while..it's routine and becomes a lifestyle...and so i think...at least i can confirm this for myself and all of my friends....

So, in other words...most ts's think (or find out) they are going to be used anyway (and due to lack of options). So, they mine as well get paid for it?

toopretty
10-09-2010, 11:57 PM
haha i didnt realize i just replied to a 4 year old post

blackrob
10-10-2010, 12:53 AM
U LOST A LOT OF RESPECT FROM ME ASSUMING WE ARE LAZY MEGA.. TRY BEING ON HORMONES THAT SUPRESS YOUR SEXUAL DESIRE,,STAYING HARD FOR 4 TO 5 HOURS SHOOTING A SCENE..IF THAT'S NOT HARD WORK..WELL U GOT ME...OR BETTER YET...SEEING 10 GUYS A DAY SOMETIMES.. MOST U DON'T WANT TO BE TOUCH BY....BUT U PLAY THE PART FOR THE TIME PAID..NOT TO MENTION THE RISK OF GETTING HURT AND OR KILLED MEETING STRANGERS. .90% IS A REALLY LARGE PERCENTAGE FOR A MENTAL DISFUNCTION...YES U MIGHT BE LOOKING FOR LTR AND KNOW A FEW BUDDIES..SO WHAT. MOST GUYS THAT REALIZE THAT THEY MIGHT WANT A LTR ARE GUYS THAT LIVE HALF THEIR LIFE FIGURING IF THEY DO OR NOT..AVERAGE IS WHAT AGE NOW 40 AND UP? AND WHAT DOES THESE 40+ GUYS LOOK FOR? GIRLS IN THEIR 20s FOR THE MOST PART....U JUST HAPPEN TO BOND WITH SOME GUYS WITH THE SAME INTEREST. THAT DOES NOT GIVE U CREDIBILITY TO ASSUME THAT THE GIRLS ARE TO BLAME... MOST GUYS DO NOT WANT US LONG TERM. I TRANSITION FEELING THERE'S A GREAT CHANCE I WILL LIVE A LONELY LIFE..I DIDN'T JUST ONE DAY START HORMONES..I WAS AROUND THE GIRLS AND LIVE THROUGH THEM FOR 7YEARS BEFORE I START MY HORMONES....DO U WANT ME TO THE APPOLIGIZE TO THE WORLD THAT I FEAR DISCRIMINATION AND QUITE MY CAREER? I WAS AFRAID DAMIT...STILL AM...YEARS PASS AND U KINDA JUST LEARN FROM EXPERIENCES WITH THE GUYS..I RATHER DIE THEN TO LET SOMEONE BREAK MY HEART ONE MORE TIME...CALL ME LAZY IF U WANT...I JUST DON'T WANNA FIGHT ANYMORE....ENJOY MY NEXT VIDEO...

it cant be that bad ma

OExReebie
10-10-2010, 01:05 AM
yes ur absolutely right, but that doesn't give the "real" good men a chance to be in a relationship!

blackrob
10-10-2010, 01:18 AM
Most ts are escorts sweetie.i would say at least 90%. When a # is this high..u have to wonder why? it's a balance of power for most..ts are forced and push by society to the bottom..making a living becomes even more difficult in an already competitive market...most of us are tire of fighting..subconciously we do what any human would...find the easy way out in order to survive..that's in our gene...then there's love...a universal quest..there is no denying that love in the guys in a ts relationship is very uncommon...most guys do not want to suffer the wrath of "transsexualism" They want in for the fun and then out...Ts will will learn about this at a very early stage in their transition...and so the balance of power..Most decide not to be used and make arrangement for guys that wanna engage with them...after a while..it's routine and becomes a lifestyle...and so i think...at least i can confirm this for myself and all of my friends....

and nice picutre too yes I would say too that at least 90% or higher rates for trannys escorting

bridgetbbyxo
10-10-2010, 01:49 AM
i guess im one of the 10% that do not.

liisawinklergirl
10-11-2010, 06:39 PM
most TSgirls find it hard to get a decent job that pays well and even if they do it's not always comfortable for them to work under a structure, an organization... and of course most want an avenue to earn real money for their FFS...and escorting seems to be the best way to achieve that end.

MissBStar
10-12-2010, 05:06 AM
I personally Don't Escort but have done Pro Domme work. I am not saying I will NEVER escort. My life is a CHOICE i'm making and I will not being forced into anything. Plus I enjoy what I do as long as it is Lucrative and FUN!!

I am at a stage where I want to meet someone but I will NEVER meet someone off the net or someone that is a "Fan". I know that if someone likes TS's all they like me for is my cock and will totally objectify me.

grrrrrrrrrr

renoned
10-12-2010, 05:26 AM
I personally Don't Escort but have done Pro Domme work. I am not saying I will NEVER escort. My life is a CHOICE i'm making and I will not being forced into anything. Plus I enjoy what I do as long as it is Lucrative and FUN!!

I am at a stage where I want to meet someone but I will NEVER meet someone off the net or someone that is a "Fan". I know that if someone likes TS's all they like me for is my cock and will totally objectify me.

grrrrrrrrrr
But But I like you for that ass to.:wiggle: :hide-1:

rockabilly
10-12-2010, 05:29 AM
I personally Don't Escort but have done Pro Domme work. I am not saying I will NEVER escort. My life is a CHOICE i'm making and I will not being forced into anything. Plus I enjoy what I do as long as it is Lucrative and FUN!!

I am at a stage where I want to meet someone but I will NEVER meet someone off the net or someone that is a "Fan". I know that if someone likes TS's all they like me for is my cock.
Don't be silly , 50% will like you for your ass. :p

dlbi22
10-12-2010, 06:03 AM
i know tons of girls who don't escort. its just ridiculous to say that 99% of them do. you just don't know where/how to find them.

it probably also doesn't help that most of you are fat, bald, and over 50....

MissBStar
10-12-2010, 06:19 AM
Well I'm ok with the guys that love me for my ass. Just buy me some designer jeans and i'm a happy girl =P

TOTAL JOKE!!!!!.... sort of....

alyssaluxor
10-12-2010, 06:28 AM
most of my TS friends dont escort also. in fact from all my close TS friends im the only one who escort. ive tried to lure them into escorting but they just dont like it. they find it so disgusting lol

they prefer a normal 9-5 job but off course they still encounter discrimination at work

Ryz
10-12-2010, 06:54 AM
A tranny who doesn't escort? Unheard of....

Ryz
10-12-2010, 06:55 AM
Just kidding...

Bunzee
10-12-2010, 07:25 AM
I mean how many people can turn $3000 in a day let alone a week... A lot of people don't make that tax free in a month. A good TS escort could almost make enough to pay cash for a house in 2 years if she was really dedicated and decided that was her goal.



wait wait ... $3,000 a day? a house in 2 years? is that for real? i highly doubt escorts make that much money come on

Mari_Mar
10-12-2010, 07:31 AM
I don't escort. I have a career in the computer industry, and was able to transition at work with no issue. But, I'm fortunate that I live and work in SF. I know a lot of girls who do escort, and in a lot of cases, it's because they can't find work that pays as much as they do escorting. Some do have jobs but will still take tricks on the side. I dunno, that has never been anything that I've been interested in...

drock
10-13-2010, 01:28 AM
wait wait ... $3,000 a day? a house in 2 years? is that for real? i highly doubt escorts make that much money come on

I doubt they make that much too..