I'm gonna save this one in a text file so I can reuse it.

[Ms.Stepford]

I don't mean to be curt, but it's like this: you come up to me at a bar or on the street and I think you're cool and we get along, we become friends. I became friends with some people last night and this morning because we were hanging out and they were fun people with common interests, like playing music and drinking on the street corner with a case of beer stashed behind some barrels in an alley. If you are looking in the transsexual escort section of backpage and you get this email address, you're a potential client. Is there any other way to run a business? I have guys who pay me lots of money to hang out with them and party in their nice houses, apartments, houses and hotel rooms. I get to know lots of guys, y'know? They understand that if they're gonna order up a girl off the internet to come hang out and get to know them, that they're going to pay for the convenience of not having to go out and do the whole social interaction pick-up thing, because honestly, it's very rare that someone catches my eye to get the time of day, and I'm usually a bitch at first because I'm a rock star punk house kid with the scars to prove it, I always have my own money to spend, and I'm usually not out unless I'm rolling deep with people who have all of my attention they want because I love them.

I dunno. I hope that clears that up. If you see me around, approach me there and charm the panties off of me, but don't tell me you know me from this interaction. That would be weird. I drink a lot of tequila, I speak my mind really friggin' loud, and everyone I know knows what I do for a living. They know what it looks like when it gets that kind of weird, and in general they're pretty protective of me.

Please understand that it's almost nine in the morning, and it's kind of awkward when someone contacts my escort ad just to be friends. I mean really...do you understand the position that puts me in?

I think with a little editing this will be my new form letter for when this happens.

Good morning,

[nysprod]

I drink a lot of tequila






Tequila: The Magic elixir of TGirl Sexuality

[Ms.Stepford]

Really, just girls in general...

[Rusty Eldora]

You didn't get to the part where they are going to save you from the life you must not like.

OK, when I contact a Tgirl from her ad I was the best service she has to offer at the agreed rate for her time and companionship. I never pay for sex, that is illegal, but I do pay for time that I assume will include great sex. But it can include social time. Sometimes, friendships develop which can be quite good, but I do not expect them.

I run a business myself. It galls me when prospective customers call and they expect me to drop my biggest and best clients work for their small job, on which they seem nasty to work with, expect the best product out there, and at half price also. Thank you but I am unavailable for 3 weeks, seems to work well.

So the "I'm a good looking arrogant stud that you are dying to see for free" patter probably induces desire to inflict bodily harm

[LilyRox]

Yeah I thought being friendly was part of what escorts do.

[Amy Gray]

Tequila: The Magic elixir of TGirl Sexuality

:( I'm doing it wrong then. Clearly I need to start drinking.

[amberskyi]

Yeah I thought being friendly was part of what escorts do.

it is but that doesn't mean we don't have boundaries.
The OP was just saying in a really long way that it irks her when guys get her work number and try to use it to facilitate a social interaction.totally logical if you ask me.you wouldn't look up a plumber in the yellow pages, get his number and call to shoot the shit.

[fred41]

i....you wouldn't look up a plumber in the yellow pages, get his number and call to shoot the shit.

...and a plumber would probably be really surprised to get the ab & cock pics too...lol.

[dderek123]

Yeah that must be really awkward. How would it be best to deal with it once a guy tries to friend you through your services?

Just don't answer his calls? Is there a chance that they could get angry or stalker-ish?

[nysprod]

it is but that doesn't mean we don't have boundaries.
The OP was just saying in a really long way that it irks her when guys get her work number and try to use it to facilitate a social interaction.totally logical if you ask me.you wouldn't look up a plumber in the yellow pages, get his number and call to shoot the shit.

Well, yes and no Amber...it's not totally unusual you go into someone's restaurant several times and shoot the shit...next thing you know, you're playing golf together (or poker, or whatever).

When a guy becomes somewhat of a "steady" customer of an escort, maybe he drives her someplace a couple of times, they have some discussions related to more personal issues...before you know it, they guy is thinking things...maybe not GF, but something more than "client."

It happens.

[Quiet Reflections]

Well, yes and no Amber...it's not totally unusual you go into someone's restaurant several times and shoot the shit...next thing you know, you're playing golf together (or poker, or whatever).

When a guy becomes somewhat of a "steady" customer of an escort, maybe he drives her someplace a couple of times, they have some discussions related to more personal issues...before you know it, they guy is thinking things...maybe not GF, but something more than "client."

It happens.
I have to agree. I'm friends with a few guys that I met through business dealings. It really help to get to know people when your first interactions are cut throat and money based.

[tsdvdman]

If the guy sees you as more than an escort and tries to get to know you more personally...take it as a compliment. (I thought that's what you girls wanted..was to be seen as more than just an escort, freak or fetish).
And if he isn't your type...just let him know you strictly about the benjamins.
BTW..if you've ever asked a "client" to stop by the store for you, or for a ride across town, then you open the door for this kind of stuff.

[nysprod]

BTW..if you've ever asked a "client" to stop by the store for you, or for a ride across town, then you open the door for this kind of stuff.




To say nothing of escorts who know a guy has designs on her, and then proceed to bleed him dry...

[amberskyi]

Well, yes and no Amber...it's not totally unusual you go into someone's restaurant several times and shoot the shit...next thing you know, you're playing golf together (or poker, or whatever).

When a guy becomes somewhat of a "steady" customer of an escort, maybe he drives her someplace a couple of times, they have some discussions related to more personal issues...before you know it, they guy is thinking things...maybe not GF, but something more than "client."

It happens.

That scenario is clearly not what the op is talking about.
However on the point you brought up,i have clients I'm cool with but a certain boundary is still respected.
I have one client who keeps inviting me to drinks, he's actually really cool and respectful but he has a wife.if i can't call your phone freely than how could you ever even entertain the idea we can be more than friends lol

[amberskyi]

If the guy sees you as more than an escort and tries to get to know you more personally...take it as a compliment. (I thought that's what you girls wanted..was to be seen as more than just an escort, freak or fetish).
And if he isn't your type...just let him know you strictly about the benjamins.
BTW..if you've ever asked a "client" to stop by the store for you, or for a ride across town, then you open the door for this kind of stuff.

We wanted to be respected as human beings by society at large.i don't really care how a client sees me as long as he's respectful and has my donation.i don't have any real social interactions with him so his opinion on me is not relevant.
I'm always friendly and never rude but certain boundaries have to be respected.discretion needs to work both ways.i have a personal life and i don't want any client apart of it.
Again tho this isn't what the op was talking about.

[LilyRox]

First off I'll say tequila and forum posting just doesn't mix well.

In my opinion it creates a negative image to your customer base when you go on a public thread and basically tell everyone that wants to contact you that you aren't their friend or even like them.

The escort business is a business of lies, cheating and false relationships... for a good reason, because people will pay for it.

The girls who make the most money lie to their customers, hint them on that they actually have a connection to them, etc.

There's also nothing wrong with this. It's a exchange. It's supply and demand. If people want to pay for it, let them pay. The second they stop paying, don't pay or you drained them clean, disconnect the customer.

Even if you get some guys that contact your ad that try to befriend you, you shouldn't go on a public forum and rant about it, let alone how your family is protective about you.

My suggestion would be to get a profession that makes you happy. I don't know if you are happy since this is the internet, but you sound pretty miserable.

I know if I went on cam everyday with a frown I wouldn't make shit. No one wants to pay for a sad story.

[nysprod]

The escort business is a business of lies, cheating and false relationships... for a good reason, because people will pay for it.

The girls who make the most money lie to their customers, hint them on that they actually have a connection to them, etc.

There's also nothing wrong with this. It's a exchange. It's supply and demand. If people want to pay for it, let them pay. The second they stop paying, don't pay or you drained them clean, disconnect the customer.




Pure escort gold...guys, commit this to memory.

[danthepoetman]

Don't be so hard, Lady Lily! Who knows what and whom Ms Stepford is talking about. Maybe just a bit of melancholy. We all fall for that from time to time. When tequila wanes off tomorrow, she might tell us a bit more... or well, in a few hours, I guess, now. :)

[robertlouis]

First off I'll say tequila and forum posting just doesn't mix well.

In my opinion it creates a negative image to your customer base when you go on a public thread and basically tell everyone that wants to contact you that you aren't their friend or even like them.

The escort business is a business of lies, cheating and false relationships... for a good reason, because people will pay for it.

The girls who make the most money lie to their customers, hint them on that they actually have a connection to them, etc.

There's also nothing wrong with this. It's a exchange. It's supply and demand. If people want to pay for it, let them pay. The second they stop paying, don't pay or you drained them clean, disconnect the customer.

Even if you get some guys that contact your ad that try to befriend you, you shouldn't go on a public forum and rant about it, let alone how your family is protective about you.

My suggestion would be to get a profession that makes you happy. I don't know if you are happy since this is the internet, but you sound pretty miserable.

I know if I went on cam everyday with a frown I wouldn't make shit. No one wants to pay for a sad story.



Oh, I don't know, Lily. I've made a steady living out of writing and singing sad as fuck songs over the years....... :party:

[LilyRox]

Oh, I don't know, Lily. I've made a steady living out of writing and singing sad as fuck songs over the years....... :party:

Yes of course lol :)

[danthepoetman]

Anyways for my part, I might not mix tequila and forum posting, but hell! I certainly have done my share of mixing Scotch Malt whisky and posting... It made for a strange beverage, but also lots of fun on occasions... :party:

[robertlouis]

Anyways for my part, I might not mix tequila and forum posting, but hell! I certainly have done my share of mixing Scotch Malt whisky and posting... It made for a strange beverage, but also lots of fun on occasions... :party:



We've noticed, Dan.

Slainthe!

[fred41]

Don't be so hard, Lady Lily! Who knows what and whom Ms Stepford is talking about. Maybe just a bit of melancholy. We all fall for that from time to time. When tequila wanes off tomorrow, she might tell us a bit more... or well, in a few hours, I guess, now. :)

Ms Stepford is talking about time wasters.
I think it's funny that this is even an issue.
I think it's funny that it even went beyond that.
It's simple - Don't call someones business line with bullshit other than the intended business.
It really doesn't get any simpler than that.

(If you're a friend or anything closer than that...you have a separate number and name to contact...if you don't have that ...then you are not.)


...yes there's going to be backlash when you post the truth....but that's reality.

[amberskyi]

First off I'll say tequila and forum posting just doesn't mix well.

In my opinion it creates a negative image to your customer base when you go on a public thread and basically tell everyone that wants to contact you that you aren't their friend or even like them.

The escort business is a business of lies, cheating and false relationships... for a good reason, because people will pay for it.

The girls who make the most money lie to their customers, hint them on that they actually have a connection to them, etc.

There's also nothing wrong with this. It's a exchange. It's supply and demand. If people want to pay for it, let them pay. The second they stop paying, don't pay or you drained them clean, disconnect the customer.

Even if you get some guys that contact your ad that try to befriend you, you shouldn't go on a public forum and rant about it, let alone how your family is protective about you.

My suggestion would be to get a profession that makes you happy. I don't know if you are happy since this is the internet, but you sound pretty miserable.

I know if I went on cam everyday with a frown I wouldn't make shit. No one wants to pay for a sad story.
after being in a situation where a client/sugar daddy thought i had real feelings for him i don't lie or manipulate anyone.i felt like shit and I'm sure my karmic debit increased

[danthepoetman]

We've noticed, Dan.

Slainthe!
Slainthe! my friend. Like the poet says, "You have to love the wild swan!" ;)

[robertlouis]

Slainthe! my friend. Like the poet says, "You have to love the wild swan!" ;)

Just for you, Dan.


The Wild Swans At Coole

The trees are in their autumn beauty,
The woodland paths are dry,
Under the October twilight the water
Mirrors a still sky;
Upon the brimming water among the stones
Are nine-and-fifty Swans.
The nineteenth autumn has come upon me
Since I first made my count;
I saw, before I had well finished,
All suddenly mount
And scatter wheeling in great broken rings
Upon their clamorous wings.
I have looked upon those brilliant creatures,
And now my heart is sore.
All's changed since I, hearing at twilight,
The first time on this shore,
The bell-beat of their wings above my head,
Trod with a lighter tread.
Unwearied still, lover by lover,
They paddle in the cold
Companionable streams or climb the air;
Their hearts have not grown old;
Passion or conquest, wander where they will,
Attend upon them still.
But now they drift on the still water,
Mysterious, beautiful;
Among what rushes will they build,
By what lake's edge or pool
Delight men's eyes when I awake some day
To find they have flown away?

William Butler Yeats

[danthepoetman]

Just for you, Dan.

OMG! beautiful, Robert Louis. I admit I don't know very much Yeats. I've read a few plays but that's it. It's magnificent! Thank you!!
I was thinking of this much darker one...

Love the Wild Swan
Robinson Jeffers

"I hate my verses, every line, every word.
Oh pale and brittle pencils ever to try
One grass-blade's curve, or the throat of one bird
That clings to twig, ruffled against white sky.
Oh cracked and twilight mirrors ever to catch
One color, one glinting
Hash, of the splendor of things.
Unlucky hunter, Oh bullets of wax,
The lion beauty, the wild-swan wings, the storm of the wings."
--This wild swan of a world is no hunter's game.
Better bullets than yours would miss the white breast
Better mirrors than yours would crack in the flame.
Does it matter whether you hate your . . . self?
At least Love your eyes that can see, your mind that can
Hear the music, the thunder of the wings. Love the wild swan.

[robertlouis]

OMG! beautiful, Robert Louis. I admit I don't know very much Yeats. I've read a few plays but that's it. It's magnificent! Thank you!!
I was thinking of this much darker one...

Love the Wild Swan
Robinson Jeffers

"I hate my verses, every line, every word.
Oh pale and brittle pencils ever to try
One grass-blade's curve, or the throat of one bird
That clings to twig, ruffled against white sky.
Oh cracked and twilight mirrors ever to catch
One color, one glinting
Hash, of the splendor of things.
Unlucky hunter, Oh bullets of wax,
The lion beauty, the wild-swan wings, the storm of the wings."
--This wild swan of a world is no hunter's game.
Better bullets than yours would miss the white breast
Better mirrors than yours would crack in the flame.
Does it matter whether you hate your . . . self?
At least Love your eyes that can see, your mind that can
Hear the music, the thunder of the wings. Love the wild swan.


That's wonderful Dan, thank you.

I wondered if you meant this - and sorry folks, hijack over!


http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDAh19tms4U

[LilyRox]

it's ok you 2 get along good :P

[danthepoetman]

That's wonderful Dan, thank you.
I wondered if you meant this - and sorry folks, hijack over!
http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDAh19tms4U
Absolutely adorable!


it's ok you 2 get along good :P
We're good buddies, Lily, but you're more than welcome to join the fun! ;)

[LilyRox]

haha of course! ;)

[robertlouis]

it's ok you 2 get along good :P



It's true, Lily. We share tastes for the good things in life - single malt scotch whisky, good poetry, good music, and, of course, beautiful women.

And a very warm welcome to you. We're not all bad!

Just one thing Dan, drop the "e" in whisky, please.

It's a proven fact that any liquid calling itself "whiskey" is not fit for human consumption under any circumstances and may only be used under supervision for cleaning out toilets, stripping paint and poisoning vermin.

[fred41]

It's a proven fact that any liquid calling itself "whiskey" is not fit for human consumption under any circumstances and may only be used under supervision for cleaning out toilets, stripping paint and poisoning vermin.


As a person who enjoys Kentucky whiskey (and Irish whiskey )...I appreciate a multi-purpose bottle of spirits.

[danthepoetman]

It's true, Lily. We share tastes for the good things in life - single malt scotch whisky, good poetry, good music, and, of course, beautiful women.

And a very warm welcome to you. We're not all bad!

Just one thing Dan, drop the "e" in whisky, please.

It's a proven fact that any liquid calling itself "whiskey" is not fit for human consumption under any circumstances and may only be used under supervision for cleaning out toilets, stripping paint and poisoning vermin.
Agreed on all counts. But the damn meme was made this way. It still makes for a nice signature "pic".
And yes, Lily, welcome to the site!

[Ms.Stepford]

What follows is a work of fiction.

I gotta get the fuck out of town. The OP is an email I had to write at seven or whenever it was in the morning from the ass end (which is really the only way I see morning). Guys bug on my tits and ass on the street constantly, as it is, but now at least every other day I get recognized from my backpage ad or from some naked pictures. I'm starting to dread going outside unless I have a few people with me because they're less likely to approach me when I'm hanging out with my scary gutterpunk friends or a gaggle of cackling maenads.

This guy -he wrote me, said he'd seen me around. I gave him my rates, but he was like (well not like, this is an exact quote: "I'm not the type to just pay for something like that [ed: y'know, time and companionship] and that's it. If you wanna be friends and see where things go I'll treat you well,"

"Ummm...well, I'm the type to just get paid for that. I don't put up an ad on backpage because I'm looking for friends. I have lots and lots of friends. Cheers!" I replied.

While I was writing the email in the OP, he sent me "Well when I see you at [this one bar] next time I'll have to say hi. =]"

"But yeah...you should. Maybe we'll get along. I was writing that last long missive when you're last message came in. Honestly, I'm hammered but I was up til ten in the morning last night getting hammered and I must like listening to birds chirp or something."

"I understand. I was honestly just looking at the back page ads out of curiosity and I recognized you. Didn't mean to like creep you out or anything. You have to understand that i dont typically hang out in the places where one would meet a lovely TS like yourself for many reasons.. And yes my sleeping schedule is a little strange sometimes as well Lol. My apologies if I offended you at all. Later."

"We're fine, hon, but if you want to chat me up at a bar pretend this never happened :) "

"I know. I wouldn't bring it up even if you didn't tell me to. Lol. Out of curiosity. If I just wanted to suck your dick nothing more. How much would I have to pay? Lol "

I um, haven't replied. I don't discuss explicit details, of course. Not like this kid is in any way a cop, but also, I don't work for clients who talk to me like that. He's most likely not going to have any game if he sees me in a bar. Maybe he'll surprise me. I'm definitely going to know it's him after about a minute.

But I know damn well that if randoms on the strip know about the birthmark in my asscrack, that Uncle Leo isn't going to be too far behind. Not that they'd be able to bust me on the street anyway. I don't pick up that kind of trade. I'm an indoor cat. The worst case scenario is I'll end up fucking a hot cop for free and legal, but most of the time I'm not going to be attracted to them and they're not gonna get more than ten about ten seconds of my attention before I start getting weird on them and make them feel bad about themselves for asking me about some lascivious shit and not being hot. I'm simply not working when I'm out on the street or at bars. I'm either on the way somewhere or I'm out for my own pleasure, and, again, unless they're hot and I want to get with them, they have some other fun thing going on, or they're holding a lit blunt or buying me a drink, whatever I'm doing or thinking about or whomever I'm rolling with is infinitely more interesting and important to me than anything they can possibly have going on.

I don't friggin want to leave town though. My band just had a reunion show that was the coolest and most packed venue on the street the other night, and we'll probably be opening for national acts again in a few months, and my friend is really excited about it, and it helps him not think about being a recovering heroin addict. I get recognized as "the hula hoop girl" about as much as I do for my less family-friendly activities. I'm always really nice to people who want to talk about hoops or music or what a gorgeous day it is. I'm an absolute sweetheart unless you're trying to get me to come into work on my day off. I live with five really good friends in a 170 yr old mansion that's been passed down through two decades of personal friend invitations to artists and musicians and outlaws. Venues have fallen through on bands at the last minute, and we've invited them to play in our great room. (Okay, it's not that huge, but I don't know what else to call it. The living room is down the hall.) You could fit a mid-size car in my closet, and my rent is less than $400 a month.

So, I have it awesome here, but it's just matter of time before I catch a case or a pick up a stalker. I don't want to go to jail again, or fuck up my knuckles on someone's teeth anymore than they already have been. I know a lot of people would get all common sense on me and tell me to stop turning tricks, and focus on music and the community and, shit, my writing, but I love my job, and it's actually had nothing but a positive impact on my life. I've developed a really lovely set of interpersonal skills that never turn off, so I can find something to pleasantly converse about with just about anyone. I've become a lot more assertive in every situation, including when dealing with myself. I try to keep reins on my ego, but everytime I meet a new client and he's overjoyed that I showed up looking like my pictures and he gives me another big bill or two more than we agreed upon, I'm sorry, I'm like "Hell yeah, fuckin right." I'm really growing into a sexual athlete, replete with feats of derring-do, y'know? I have a steady supply of cock and wet spots to play with, and I'm so into it that it's getting warm between my legs while I type this. The filth that can come out of my mouth while I'm fucking a guy my father's age in the head or getting my guts pounded out give me gleeful giggles. The things I don't say out loud are even better. I love looking deep into the eyes of a guy I just met a half hour ago and kissing him like I love him. My clients can afford me. Nobody's kids are going hungry because they're spending their money on my ass, and they're paying for professional bang for their buck. They can tell me anything. I'm like a therapist. You can trust me to go in the other room to look in the mirror without feeling like I'm going to go through your medicine cabinet. You know I have my own stuff if I want it.

I could just be a slut and probably get just as much or more, but I like getting paid for it. It's a kink, and I like satisfying clients expectations and the performance aspect. (I LOVE when there's a mirror I can see myself in.) I don't know if I'd be able to fuck like I do if I changed careers, anyway. I might be tired from work or whatever. These days if I'm tired, debauchery is the reason, and I'm happy to finally to be able to get something to eat -because I like to be good and empty when I'm working (you puke up one chicken taco on a cock while it's cumming and you learn that shit quick. (the gentleman didn't know, because he was cumming, and the chunks of grilled chicken probably felt like some crazy tongue action on his cock. I slurped them up like I was going for some cum that spilled and spit them in the toilet. what was I writing about?))

I haven't even mentioned how nice it is that my bills are always paid ahead of time. That's actually another nice thing that I have going on here. If you're looking for blonde, blue-eyed, soft, sweet smelling, intelligent, and ratchet as fuck, with a cock, in my part of the state, we're going to be in touch, unless someone's touring through, but I don't really have to think about that. I make regulars out of guys who have money to blow, because I'm really just that fun. I don't watch the clock, and I treat them very well. If I hear, "I have to get some money together," or "how much for a half hour?" I don't even bother replying. I'll be sauntering around nice houses and hotels drinking top shelf and smoking joints of proper green in a g-string while they get the money together, and it's not like they're gonna scrape up anything extra, so where's the incentive? Most of my clients are submissive and rich. I can talk this snob shit all the time because they love it, and they like spending money on nice stuff. Nobody's kids are going hungry because they're spending their money on my ass.

I think of the children, you know? Heart of gold, understand. Some folks are going to have problems with how I say exactly what I mean, but try it. It feels great. It's not like I don't have tact, but I'll never tell someone one thing and mean another. It kinda seems counterproductive. Fuck that. It is exactly counterproductive.

It's a double-edged sword though, because there's a threat from both sides of the law when it comes to doing good outlaw business, and my chances of drawing attention are significantly higher than they would be in a more competitive market. It's really simple math. There are less targets around here, so I feel more likely to be hit. I'm not into that idea. I'd rather be a well-fed but not too big fish in a larger body of water.

I guess I have to figure out where to go. Lots of me says "go to California, dummy! Hustle it up, get some work done to up your game, and do it right, lady pimp," but I'm going to have to sleep on it.


First off I'll say tequila and forum posting just doesn't mix well.

In my opinion it creates a negative image to your customer base when you go on a public thread and basically tell everyone that wants to contact you that you aren't their friend or even like them.

The escort business is a business of lies, cheating and false relationships... for a good reason, because people will pay for it.

The girls who make the most money lie to their customers, hint them on that they actually have a connection to them, etc.

There's also nothing wrong with this. It's a exchange. It's supply and demand. If people want to pay for it, let them pay. The second they stop paying, don't pay or you drained them clean, disconnect the customer.

Even if you get some guys that contact your ad that try to befriend you, you shouldn't go on a public forum and rant about it, let alone how your family is protective about you.

My suggestion would be to get a profession that makes you happy. I don't know if you are happy since this is the internet, but you sound pretty miserable.

I know if I went on cam everyday with a frown I wouldn't make shit. No one wants to pay for a sad story.

Honey, this is my hustle, and it works. If they want the realness, they know where to find it. They read my blog -not the one in my sig here, mind you -and I don't even have to talk specifics with them when we're making arrangements because they know exactly the type of business they'll get up to and they'll know how I like to get paid.

When I was on cam, guys came to me because they knew that I would say some fucked up shit that would make their dick explode, whether they wanted me to abuse them or pretend I was their girlfriend. The brain is the most important sexual organ. I'm pretty sure I made a guy cum with my mind while I had his face between my asscheeks grinding into his tongue. I mean, he was jerking off 'cause I was pulling his head up into it, but I was thinking about how hot it must have been for him and how hot I felt, and how much I love my job, and he was like, "you just made me cum."

I cackled and sucked the cum off his cock, then had him lay on the edge of bed so I could get in like a bridge type position and fuck straight down into his throat while I rubbed my tits on his balding head. Remember, this is all fiction, just porn on a porno site.

He gave me a hundred bucks more than I was asking and told me he wants to see me again. It was early, so I poured some more Knob Creek and sat naked in his leather massage chair while he rolled us a joint. He got cuter over the time we spent, and I fucked his face again before I left to meet my friend. It was raining, so he gave me an umbrella.

Then I came home to the message from the kid who thinks my escort ad is a personal ad.

I dunno, I'm crazy, but I'm smart, and there are a lot of guys out there who like smart girls with sweet tasting assholes, so I think I'll be okay as long as I don't end up dead or in jail.

I'm definitely a few weeks away from leaving town, so I really don't mind laying all of this out. I'm going to contact regulars I haven't heard from in a bit and screen respectful and discreet prospective clients really carefully until then, and maybe try to borrow money from one client whom I definitely know to have it. He talks about helping me out with some cosmetic work that I want to have done -you know the story -but I don't push it too hard because I'm just not greedy, and I know that good things come when you're a good person doing good work. I'm happy to let regulars pay me whatever they want and they never lowball me because the more they see me, the more I give them exactly what they want.

It's all fiction anyway!

How's that thread going where the guy's looking for the psychopath TS girlfriend?

I have a really cute black Ka-Bar. ;)

Oh, and sorry I downvoted your post on page 3 Dan, I was on my tablet and the buttons for next page and downvote are really close together if I don't zoom in. Cheers!

[Jericho]

It's a proven fact that any liquid calling itself "whiskey" is not fit for human consumption under any circumstances and may only be used under supervision for cleaning out toilets, stripping paint and poisoning vermin.

Bloody Elitist jocks! :hide-1:

[Ms.Stepford]

Call it bourbon, scotch, rye, or usquebaugh, just get a room, boys, this thread's about hoin' :p

[tsdvdman]

call it bourbon, scotch, rye, or usquebaugh, just get a room, boys, this thread's about hoin' :p
thank you!!!

[danthepoetman]

What follows is a work of fiction.

I gotta get the fuck out of town. The OP is an email I had to write at seven or whenever it was in the morning from the ass end (which is really the only way I see morning). Guys bug on my tits and ass on the street constantly, as it is, but now at least every other day I get recognized from my backpage ad or from some naked pictures. I'm starting to dread going outside unless I have a few people with me because they're less likely to approach me when I'm hanging out with my scary gutterpunk friends or a gaggle of cackling maenads.

(...)

It's all fiction anyway!

How's that thread going where the guy's looking for the psychopath TS girlfriend?

I have a really cute black Ka-Bar. ;)

Oh, and sorry I downvoted your post on page 3 Dan, I was on my tablet and the buttons for next page and downvote are really close together if I don't zoom in. Cheers!
This is a great read, Ms Stepford! You have a very particular and original way of expressing yourself. You're a gifted writer -someone with a voice!
Don't worry about the thumbs: they stick up the pages like machine pins for balls... :)

[robertlouis]

Call it bourbon, scotch, rye, or usquebaugh, just get a room, boys, this thread's about hoin' :p



We've got a room thanks Trixi, and this is what we're drinking right now.

Care to join us? :party:

[danthepoetman]

We've got a room thanks Trixi, and this is what we're drinking right now.

Care to join us? :party:
Oh! fruity, peachy freshness on stone water!!! MMMMMMmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!

This almost reach the level of sex in the scale of pleasures...
http://avomnia.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/drooling_homer.gif

[Ms.Stepford]

Y'all are cute.

I could get Glenlivet at the liquor store at the corner, though, if we're going to trade pictures of bottles of scotch, I'd like some Oban, no rocks and a drop of water, thanks. Fuckin hell I'll smoke a pipe.

In other news, the last guy I mentioned in my previous post texted me at eleven this morning and I gave him exactly what he wanted in text and pictures. He's going to get off the plane to a pic of a puddle on my belly, and text me. He wants to take me out of town in a couple weeks, and then there's a yearly trip with my inner circle that I can't skip town before, so it looks like I'm going to be able to lay low before I skip town out west, get some work done, and re-emerge somewhere I won't be the only local girl on Eros.

And yes, if my man is reading this, I know he's rock hard because I'm talking about him. :)

Sex fucking magic I'm working. Genuine pornomancy, but I'm also freaking out because I don't want to leave home. I'll just pay a few months rent and give some cash to my friends for bills so that it won't be cheaper to have someone else there in my two rooms, and then I can visit sometimes...

[Ms.Stepford]

As for my writing, I figure there's enough fake and whack ass tranny hooker threads around here, that I could bring another real one.

[dderek123]

My personal favourite whiskey

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSCwTuH_zHfJWxuDmt3wW-NTVSB4aewJNHQadIatom03-6OGQM-uw

Ms. Stepford you are hella cool

[robertlouis]

My personal favourite whiskey

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSCwTuH_zHfJWxuDmt3wW-NTVSB4aewJNHQadIatom03-6OGQM-uw



It's WHISKY you fuckwit, Derek!!!! :mad:

There's no "e" in scotch, it helps to differentiate it from the other shite.

And I grew up 10 miles from Auchentoshan Distillery.

Whisky on one side of the road, the crematorium on the other. And so the circle of life and death is complete.

[nysprod]

I think there's a bit of confusion in this thread...good whisky is for older guys who want to sit around talking about the good old days...tequila is what you give a tgirl in order to turn her into a wild, sex-crazed freak.

Just wanted to clear that up.

[dderek123]

It's WHISKY you fuckwit, Derek!!!! :mad:

There's no "e" in scotch, it helps to differentiate it from the other shite.

I apologize for the poor spelling. I had a hard enough time spelling Auchentoshan correctly. Can I have some whisky now?



And I grew up 10 miles from Auchentoshan Distillery.

Whisky on one side of the road, the crematorium on the other. And so the circle of life and death is complete.

Well maybe that's their secret! The ashes of dead alcoholics lends to the delicate flavour that makes Auchentoshan so unique.

But I want to try all of these.

http://www.whiskeyblog.de/wp-content/uploads/Auchentoshan.jpg

I'll even pretend to know what I'm talking about while I'm hammered. Good times.

[danthepoetman]

My personal favourite whiskey


It's WHISKY you fuckwit, Derek!!!! :mad:
There's no "e" in scotch, it helps to differentiate it from the other shite.

Check my signature, Derek...

Shite the others are indeed... Nothing but Single Malt Scotch Whisky gets into my mouth, except some Johnny Walker when there's no single in a bar, Black Label as much as possible, or maybe the vatted Green. I'm in much better health than most drinker for that reason.
My favourites are the Lagavulin 16 yrs, the Macalan, 18 yrs when I feel like paying that much, and the Cragganmore. Ardbeg is not far behind and also Laphroaig...
Auchentoshan is an adorable dram, Derek! I love its fresh, flowery tones and its irrisistible apple perfume. One of the rare distilleries still alive in the Lowlands...

Ms Stepford, any time you wish to share with us more bits of fiction in your delightful, expressive, colourful and talented writing, I'll be in for the ride, whether it's melancholy, rage, joy or sadness!

[Ms.Stepford]

I think there's a bit of confusion in this thread...good whisky is for older guys who want to sit around talking about the good old days...tequila is what you give a tgirl in order to turn her into a wild, sex-crazed freak.

Just wanted to clear that up.

You're, like, almost half right.

It's a percentage of girls, both cis and trans that party like I do.
There are a lot of us, but most be people are actually too boring to have that kind of fun, both cis and trans.

[dderek123]

Check my signature, Derek...

Shite the others are indeed... Nothing but Single Malt Scotch Whisky gets into my mouth, except some Johnny Walker when there's no single in a bar, Black Label as much as possible, or maybe the vatted Green.

Well color me enlightened Dan and Robert! I'm guilty of drinking some of the poorest selection of whiskeys known to man during my time in Thailand.

First there is good ole Sangsom.

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSLzT__WRrHwqxKdT9StOqGIJJnZpqWh wgINglU9TUtZ_kLgHSt

Best served by a Thai lady in a short skirt and tight shirt along with a bucket of ice and a few bottles of Chang soda water. The Thais drink a finger of it with ice filled up to the brim of the cup and then soda water to fill in the gaps.

Oh and Sangsom is actually a Rum. But the Thais call it whiskey anyways. Fucked if I know why.

Next up is Blend 285 (sang bat hah).

http://www.boutiquebangkok.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/street-food-blend-285-whiskey.jpg

Now this stuff was about 40 baht cheaper than Sangsom. But it tasted like it should be given away for free even when mixed with a generous amount of ice and soda water. For me this was the drink of choice during the last few days until payday. Best served as you would a bottle of Sangsom.

Where I didn't venture was Hong Tong, Lao Kao or Ya Dong. I'm not sure if these are actual whiskeys because the Thai people I've met would use the word whiskey quite loosely. The stories I've heard of the hangovers from those poisons were enough to keep me away from the stuff. Also the stuff would be available at the side of the road and usually served by a bitter old lady who would try to trick you in to human trafficking (is that a real verb?) somebody to Germany or Holland.

http://static.asiawebdirect.com/m/phuket/portals/phuket-com/homepage/magazine/yadong/allParagraphs/0/image/yadong01.jpg
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSRZoOXqrjVIM0anip6rSSnFSdLpm5cq lqyhvkzv6bEuxFiEsiD

I had plenty of good times in Thailand but you had to keep your wits about you.

[nysprod]

You're, like, almost half right.

It's a percentage of girls, both cis and trans that party like I do.
There are a lot of us, but most be people are actually too boring to have that kind of fun, both cis and trans.

I got the Cuervo Gold right here for you baby...

[youngblood61]

I think there's a bit of confusion in this thread...good whisky is for older guys who want to sit around talking about the good old days...tequila is what you give a tgirl in order to turn her into a wild, sex-crazed freak.

Just wanted to clear that up.That's an Idea nysprod!

[Ms.Stepford]

I got the Cuervo Gold right here for you baby...

I'm going to recommend that you move up the shelf a bit if you're trying to impress me.


8)

[danthepoetman]

Well color me enlightened Dan and Robert! I'm guilty of drinking some of the poorest selection of whiskeys known to man during my time in Thailand.
First there is good ole Sangsom.
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSLzT__WRrHwqxKdT9StOqGIJJnZpqWh wgINglU9TUtZ_kLgHSt
Best served by a Thai lady in a short skirt and tight shirt along with a bucket of ice and a few bottles of Chang soda water. The Thais drink a finger of it with ice filled up to the brim of the cup and then soda water to fill in the gaps.
Oh and Sangsom is actually a Rum. But the Thais call it whiskey anyways. Fucked if I know why.
Next up is Blend 285 (sang bat hah).
http://www.boutiquebangkok.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/street-food-blend-285-whiskey.jpg
Now this stuff was about 40 baht cheaper than Sangsom. But it tasted like it should be given away for free even when mixed with a generous amount of ice and soda water. For me this was the drink of choice during the last few days until payday. Best served as you would a bottle of Sangsom.
Where I didn't venture was Hong Tong, Lao Kao or Ya Dong. I'm not sure if these are actual whiskeys because the Thai people I've met would use the word whiskey quite loosely. The stories I've heard of the hangovers from those poisons were enough to keep me away from the stuff. Also the stuff would be available at the side of the road and usually served by a bitter old lady who would try to trick you in to human trafficking (is that a real verb?) somebody to Germany or Holland.
http://static.asiawebdirect.com/m/phuket/portals/phuket-com/homepage/magazine/yadong/allParagraphs/0/image/yadong01.jpg
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSRZoOXqrjVIM0anip6rSSnFSdLpm5cq lqyhvkzv6bEuxFiEsiD
I had plenty of good times in Thailand but you had to keep your wits about you.
Oh! my good God, Derek! These are abominable stories. It's now decided: I'm never, ever going to Thailand! If there was one argument anyone could put on the table to dissuade me, that was it: no Scotch Whisky?? If I didn't know better, I'd say these people are Barbarians! But considering how lovely the girls are, I'll abstain for making any further comment on the subject.
I couldn't possibly live without Scotch, I admit it without any shame. I would go completely nuts, run around butt naked and screaming, scaring little old ladies at the shoping mall or the grocery store, etc. etc. etc.

[Ms.Stepford]

Like seriously, make a whiskey thread.

[robertlouis]

I'm going to recommend that you move up the shelf a bit if you're trying to impress me.


8)



How about spending some time with a native Scot who really knows his single malts, Trixie? :party:

[robertlouis]

Like seriously, make a whiskey thread.

There was one somewhere a couple of years back.

I agree, we should take our booze elsewhere and let you get back to the altogether more momentous matter of commercial sex...... ;) :joke:

[Ms.Stepford]

Honestly, my stuff is better reading than 90% of the text here, and the contacts I'm making in PMs, but mostly through other channels are a nice indication that it's garnering me exactly the sort of attention that I'm whoring for.

I can dig a native Scot, hon, but I don't see myself traveling to the UK on my own expense anytime soon. Scotch isn't the liquor for my kind of party, though. It's more appropriate for sausage parties with no tits in attendance or a lonesome fireplace.

[robertlouis]

Honestly, my stuff is better reading than 90% of the text here, and the contacts I'm making in PMs, but mostly through other channels are a nice indication that it's garnering me exactly the sort of attention that I'm whoring for.

I can dig a native Scot, hon, but I don't see myself traveling to the UK on my own expense anytime soon. Scotch isn't the liquor for my kind of party, though. It's more appropriate for sausage parties with no tits in attendance or a lonesome fireplace.



I'm joking, Trixie. Although I wouldn't rule out turning up in upper New York state some time with a couple of good bottles....

But you're right. Single malt is wasted as a party drink - it should be sipped and savoured, so it does lend itself to male only sessions and the swapping of stories. I've only met two women in my entire life who share my passion for single malt, and both of them had the income to indulge their hobby too.

That's what it was first distilled for all those centuries ago, after all, sitting in a stone house around a peat fire and telling tales of great battles won and lost.

And good luck to you. This is the last post that will interfere with the original direction of your thread. Apologies for the long diversion.

[danthepoetman]

My appologies too, Trixie!

[Ms.Stepford]

Ehhh it's not like there's a real direction. I'd kinda hoped more ladies would speak up, but I guess there's no time for a hodown. It's been a crazy couple of days for me, and I've made some decisions, but I'm adjusting to the fact that I'm going to have to leave home, but I've got other outlaw messes going on here as it is, and I'm gonna miss it still because I'm organizing the neighborhood to take care of some shit and it's gonna work and I'm gonna have to break up my band that just got started up again and leave my friends.

Don't bother with upstate New York though. I'll be on the west coast within a month.

[Prospero]

LOL at Trixie's remark..."It's more appropriate for sausage parties with no tits in attendance or a lonesome fireplace."

[Ms.Stepford]

What's with you guys and putting an e on the end of my name?

I've been through an entire criminal trial referred to as a similar name to my own because the stupid cops couldn't look at a word on my non-driver ID and spell it right a second later, so I'm like, really guys ???

Don't be as dumb as the cops.

Making me conform to their legal ramifimuthafuckincations and whatnot and they can't even spell my legal name right by two letters when they copied it off the papers the card I have to carry to legally be considered a real person.

I just took down my Facebook under that name!

[Prospero]

well shoot me down in flames TRIXI... i was just wake and paying you a compliment!

[Ms.Stepford]

Well I've just been up for two days because no matter how much pot I smoke to try and put myself down, I feel like I'm on really good coke, but I haven't touched that shit in a long minute so it's just been a manic episode during which I've turned out a lot of decent prose -not just here -and made contact, vetted thoroughly, and bonded through text with several high quality clients, because of this thread. I'm not going to describe my screening process, but...that's all I'll say about that.

So, I'm manic, but I'm brilliant. I've been giving great advice today. My advice has been to quit your bullshit job and to figure out a way to be honest and be yourself all the time because that's where health and wellness is, and that's how you become a person who affects positive change in the world. Billions of bullshit people ain't doin dick, but I sure as fuck am doing a lot of dick and sharing everything I've got with everyone around me, whether material or emotional.

I have room to talk because first I'm being about it and then I'm talking about it.

So I'm sorry, but I'm a little crazy right now, and I'm going to -common theme here - say exactly what I mean, and y'know, it's fun. I understand that people wake up and make typos but fuck it. My shit talking isn't even that bad if you've ever been to urban NY one time. You should hear how I talk to my friends. Real aggression from my end is outright ignoring you because you don't matter.

But seriously, I've been up for a couple days smoking blue dream and you won't find a typo or misspelling in this post. There my be an extra space or a missing 'a' every once in awhile, but I did that on purpose.

I'm finishing my fancy beer and now I'm gonna have to start in on the PBR I bought for the rabble.

[Prospero]

Ahem. Well lady you have a hardier constitution than me . Two days with no sleep, drink and drugs and I would just be gabbling or gibbering power to you Trixi

[Ms.Stepford]

I'm sorry, I read that last post back and it's bitchy bitchy bitchy and incredibly self-centered; a strange game of grammar oppression olympics.

I'm going to go to bed now and when I wake up I'm going to get on with business and be fuckin sane.

I promise I've been speaking a mile a minute to everyone I know today.

Thank you.

[nysprod]

I'm sorry, I read that last post back and it's bitchy bitchy bitchy and incredibly self-centered; a strange game of grammar oppression olympics.

I'm going to go to bed now and when I wake up I'm going to get on with business and be fuckin sane.

I promise I've been speaking a mile a minute to everyone I know today.

Thank you.

Lol...I was wondering if it was early or late for you...no need to be sorry, we like it.

[robertlouis]

I'm sorry, I read that last post back and it's bitchy bitchy bitchy and incredibly self-centered; a strange game of grammar oppression olympics.

I'm going to go to bed now and when I wake up I'm going to get on with business and be fuckin sane.

I promise I've been speaking a mile a minute to everyone I know today.

Thank you.



Sleep well, and long, Trixi.

But this has been fun for everyone while it's lasted. Thanks.

[Prospero]

I am really not offended Lady TRIXI...lol

[Corran]

Trixi, if the whole escorting thing doesn't work out I think you would make a great writer.

[danthepoetman]

What's with you guys and putting an e on the end of my name?
I've been through an entire criminal trial referred to as a similar name to my own because the stupid cops couldn't look at a word on my non-driver ID and spell it right a second later, so I'm like, really guys ???
Don't be as dumb as the cops.
Making me conform to their legal ramifimuthafuckincations and whatnot and they can't even spell my legal name right by two letters when they copied it off the papers the card I have to carry to legally be considered a real person.
I just took down my Facebook under that name!
I stand corrected too, lady Trixi!

And be as self-centered as you want: it's fun for us and it's good for your soul! :)

[Ms.Stepford]

Well, I already am a writer, sweetie, and the escorting thing is working out, so I guess I'll do both!

If you mean that I should get paid for my writing, I'd say I already do. ;)

Sorry RobertLouis, but I accidentally downvoted your post on the last page the same way I did Dan's on page 3.

So should I jump into your scotch thread and start talking about sex? :p

[Ms.Stepford]

Ahem. Well lady you have a hardier constitution than me . Two days with no sleep, drink and drugs and I would just be gabbling or gibbering power to you Trixi

Hey, pot's not a drug! :p

[Ms.Stepford]

And yeah, I just got five hours of sleep, woke up to pee and was stupid enough to check my email, so now I'm wide awake and typing again.

[Prospero]

Well according to the law in some places pot IS a drug.... it is certainly an intoxicant of a sort...

[dderek123]

Trixi do you consume with a vape, bong or blunts?

[Ms.Stepford]

Ummmmm depends...

If there are ten heads in a room to smoke down there is no substitute for a blunt. I roll a mean one , too. I like some cherry wraps, but I'll break out a sharp and shell a dutch if I need to.

A bong is for taking a couple rips and leaving the house before the buzz really sets in. I broke the big one yesterday because the superglue let go, but it's in two clean pieces from when I broke it in the winter, but it'll ride again. We're working on getting some grade A glue off these kids we know.

Bongs can be a real pain in the ass when (they're in your ass! :D ) the gas guy comes to read the meter. (Especially when they're in your ass an the gas guy comes to read the meter)

Vapes are...I don't have one. I like them, and I'd keep one at my desk, but I haven't gotten around to getting one. Actually, if I did, I'd get one that looks like an e-cig. My friend has one for honey oil, and it's just a lovely little thing.

Mostly though I have a glass pipe that I picked out because it's thick and less likely to break in my purse than more ornate ones, and that's my little buttplug-lookin friend. I'd still like a few others to keep in different rooms, but that's my main pipe right now. I thought it was gonna have pink in it when I bought it, but it colored out like DMT visions.

I smoke good enough weed that I can just pack that with right ground bright green and just get a puff or two now and then, but I also just really love the taste of good pot so I tend to burn down more than I need to.

Sometimes I smoke a whole blunt to myself, though, just for decadence's sake.

Have you ever seen a glass gravity bong? I don't think it exists (and yeah, I could google it but I'm making conversation) but, it seems like with the proper application of rubber, that it could get you really high, but not be made of a soda bottle and a pitcher. Put a hole for a slide on top of it, instead of a plastic soda bottle cap and it seems like it would be a winner.

[danthepoetman]

Trixi, I just fell on this one for you... ;)
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/998005_604970322869245_1000789231_n.jpg

[Ms.Stepford]

Hahahaha.

Not inaccurate, but usually not a shoe :)

[Ms.Stepford]

I've been reading over this thread.

I like the Jeffers better than the Yeats.

Bukowski is still somehow my favorite though.

End of The World Poems.

The blue bird one...

I don't think the one about the man with the beautiful eyes is in that collection but that's a formative poem for me.

And the one with YOU STOLE MY GODDAMN WHISKEY YOU BITCH! or something...I dunno. I'll have to go read it, but my books are upstairs and I'm worn.

[danthepoetman]

I've been reading over this thread.
I like the Jeffers better than the Yeats.
Bukowski is still somehow my favorite though.
End of The World Poems.
The blue bird one...
I don't think the one about the man with the beautiful eyes is in that collection but that's a formative poem for me.
And the one with YOU STOLE MY GODDAMN WHISKEY YOU BITCH! or something...I dunno. I'll have to go read it, but my books are upstairs and I'm worn.
End of the world poem? I think you mean "Dinosauria We"...
And the Blue bird I probably can find back for you.
OK. Here's the first one. Is that it?

DINOSAURIA, WE
by Charles Bukowski

Born like this
Into this
As the chalk faces smile
As Mrs. Death laughs
As the elevators break
As political landscapes dissolve
As the supermarket bag boy holds a college degree
As the oily fish spit out their oily prey
As the sun is masked
We are
Born like this
Into this
Into these carefully mad wars
Into the sight of broken factory windows of emptiness
Into bars where people no longer speak to each other
Into fist fights that end as shootings and knifings
Born into this
Into hospitals which are so expensive that it’s cheaper to die
Into lawyers who charge so much it’s cheaper to plead guilty
Into a country where the jails are full and the madhouses closed
Into a place where the masses elevate fools into rich heroes
Born into this
Walking and living through this
Dying because of this
Muted because of this
Castrated
Debauched
Disinherited
Because of this
Fooled by this
Used by this
Pissed on by this
Made crazy and sick by this
Made violent
Made inhuman
By this
The heart is blackened
The fingers reach for the throat
The gun
The knife
The bomb
The fingers reach toward an unresponsive god
The fingers reach for the bottle
The pill
The powder
We are born into this sorrowful deadliness
We are born into a government 60 years in debt
That soon will be unable to even pay the interest on that debt
And the banks will burn
Money will be useless
There will be open and unpunished murder in the streets
It will be guns and roving mobs
Land will be useless
Food will become a diminishing return
Nuclear power will be taken over by the many
Explosions will continually shake the earth
Radiated robot men will stalk each other
The rich and the chosen will watch from space platforms
Dante’s Inferno will be made to look like a children’s playground
The sun will not be seen and it will always be night
Trees will die
All vegetation will die
Radiated men will eat the flesh of radiated men
The sea will be poisoned
The lakes and rivers will vanish
Rain will be the new gold
The rotting bodies of men and animals will stink in the dark wind
The last few survivors will be overtaken by new and hideous diseases
And the space platforms will be destroyed by attrition
The petering out of supplies
The natural effect of general decay
And there will be the most beautiful silence never heard
Born out of that.
The sun still hidden there
Awaiting the next chapter.

[danthepoetman]

Now, the one I can think about where a bitch stole something from him was his paintings and poems. This one?


To the Whore Who Took My Poems
Charles Bukowski


some say we should keep personal remorse from the
poem,
stay abstract, and there is some reason in this,
but jezus;
twelve poems gone and I don't keep carbons and you have
my
paintings too, my best ones; its stifling:
are you trying to crush me out like the rest of them?
why didn't you take my money? they usually do
from the sleeping drunken pants sick in the corner.
next time take my left arm or a fifty
but not my poems:
I'm not Shakespeare
but sometime simply
there won't be any more, abstract or otherwise;
there'll always be mony and whores and drunkards
down to the last bomb,
but as God said,
crossing his legs,
I see where I have made plenty of poets
but not so very much
poetry.

[danthepoetman]

We pretty much have similar tastes in poetry, Trixi! This one is lovely! the Blue Bird poem...

Blue Bird
Charles Bukowski

there's a bluebird in my heart that
wants to get out
but I'm too tough for him,
I say, stay in there, I'm not going
to let anybody see
you.
there's a bluebird in my heart that
wants to get out
but I pur whiskey on him and inhale
cigarette smoke
and the whores and the bartenders
and the grocery clerks
never know that
he's
in there.
there's a bluebird in my heart that
wants to get out
but I'm too tough for him,
I say,
stay down, do you want to mess
me up?
you want to screw up the
works?
you want to blow my book sales in
Europe?
there's a bluebird in my heart that
wants to get out
but I'm too clever, I only let him out
at night sometimes
when everybody's asleep.
I say, I know that you're there,
so don't be
sad.
then I put him back,
but he's singing a little
in there, I haven't quite let him
die
and we sleep together like
that
with our
secret pact
and it's nice enough to
make a man
weep, but I don't
weep, do
you?

[Ms.Stepford]

The Last Night of The Earth Poems. I had to go up to the bookcase. I've bought that collection of poems three times because I've found myself out of town and wanting it. It's not the same if I just get it on digits. The Lady and The Mountain Lion, yo.

Hunk of rock is the one I was thinking of. It's starred in my table of contents. I feel that he sympathetically portrays Nina while still calling her a whore who stole his whiskey...

"just do
whatever the fuck
you feel
like doing,"
said Nina
her big ass
blazing
in the
lamplight.

blue bird and the man with the beautiful eyes are very important to me.

He spoke his own piece in his own voice, in honesty.

[Ms.Stepford]

To loosely quote John Waters, if you go home with someone and they don't have books, don't fuck them.

[Prospero]

:iagree::iagree:
To loosely quote John Waters, if you go home with someone and they don't have books, don't fuck them.

[danthepoetman]

The Last Night of The Earth Poems. I had to go up to the bookcase. I've bought that collection of poems three times because I've found myself out of town and wanting it. It's not the same if I just get it on digits. The Lady and The Mountain Lion, yo.
Hunk of rock is the one I was thinking of. It's starred in my table of contents. I feel that he sympathetically portrays Nina while still calling her a whore who stole his whiskey...

"just do
whatever the fuck
you feel
like doing,"
said Nina
her big ass
blazing
in the
lamplight.

blue bird and the man with the beautiful eyes are very important to me.
He spoke his own piece in his own voice, in honesty.
Yes, and I think The Last Night of the Earth Poems was the last poetry book published while he was alive. He was much older when he wrote this one and although written as freely and as straight as all the others, it's full of wisdom. There's much wiser poems in this one than in the others. It's the work of a man who was sure of what he knew for good.


To loosely quote John Waters, if you go home with someone and they don't have books, don't fuck them.
When they don't have books you just wonder what they can possibly live for... And someone who doesn't have the faintest idea of what he's alive for is a bottomless whole for anyone around him...

[Ms.Stepford]

Well, it's not for me to judge the meaning of another's entire life, but people who read are more fun to fuck, I think, and I'm sticking with it.

I've always got on well with the aged, so it kinda makes sense that I love that book so much.

[dderek123]

Ummmmm depends...

If there are ten heads in a room to smoke down there is no substitute for a blunt. I roll a mean one , too. I like some cherry wraps, but I'll break out a sharp and shell a dutch if I need to.

A bong is for taking a couple rips and leaving the house before the buzz really sets in. I broke the big one yesterday because the superglue let go, but it's in two clean pieces from when I broke it in the winter, but it'll ride again. We're working on getting some grade A glue off these kids we know.

Bongs can be a real pain in the ass when (they're in your ass! :D ) the gas guy comes to read the meter. (Especially when they're in your ass an the gas guy comes to read the meter)

Vapes are...I don't have one. I like them, and I'd keep one at my desk, but I haven't gotten around to getting one. Actually, if I did, I'd get one that looks like an e-cig. My friend has one for honey oil, and it's just a lovely little thing.

Mostly though I have a glass pipe that I picked out because it's thick and less likely to break in my purse than more ornate ones, and that's my little buttplug-lookin friend. I'd still like a few others to keep in different rooms, but that's my main pipe right now. I thought it was gonna have pink in it when I bought it, but it colored out like DMT visions.

I smoke good enough weed that I can just pack that with right ground bright green and just get a puff or two now and then, but I also just really love the taste of good pot so I tend to burn down more than I need to.

Sometimes I smoke a whole blunt to myself, though, just for decadence's sake.

Have you ever seen a glass gravity bong? I don't think it exists (and yeah, I could google it but I'm making conversation) but, it seems like with the proper application of rubber, that it could get you really high, but not be made of a soda bottle and a pitcher. Put a hole for a slide on top of it, instead of a plastic soda bottle cap and it seems like it would be a winner.

I hear you on the bongs and blunts. I'm really curious about vapes because I recently quit cigarettes and i don't want to go through that again. I'm wanting to avoid smoke altogether. Seems like it would be less convenient of course but the hype about those things is really positive.

I've done gravity bong with a pop bottle plenty of times. It's really effective and doesn't waste much of the stuff. There's a small company that's selling them and the reviews are pretty good. But it seems like the maintenance might be a pain in the butt.

http://www.vortexgravitybong.com/
http://www.dope-smoker.co.uk/vortex.jpg
http://www.vortexgravitybong.com/photos/2.jpg

You should model for them ;)

There's also this thing called the gravitron which I know nothing about.
http://i27.tinypic.com/voph60.jpg

[Ms.Stepford]

The Gravitron is exactly what I'm talking about!
Want want want.

It seems like the Vortex would get pretty nasty with resin, but probably easy to clean with alcohol.

Either of those seem appropriate for smoke so thick you can see a green tint to it. :)

Give me a few years and I'll have an endorsement contract :p

[danthepoetman]

Things have changed, since my youth!... :shock:

[Ms.Stepford]

Well, Dan, the invention of the wheel led to all sorts of possibilities :p

I'm playing. For all I know, you're my age, but you seem more mature.

[Ms.Stepford]

Congrats on quitting smoking Derek! Keep it up. I made a good run of it this spring, but I went back to my lovely Nat Sherman Hint menthols. They taste like the minty girl scout cookies!

[dderek123]

Congrats on quitting smoking Derek! Keep it up. I made a good run of it this spring, but I went back to my lovely Nat Sherman Hint menthols. They taste like the minty girl scout cookies!

Thanks Trixi, you're a doll. This time around I had some help with chewing tobacco though. It's smokeless so I didn't find it as addicting as cigarettes. I read somewhere that there are chemicals in cigarette smoke plus the nicotine that makes them so addictive. It was disgusting at first but it helped me deal with cravings. It's not for everyone but hey it worked for me. It's good to have something in case I can't handle a craving.

PS those cigarettes of yours sound delicious.

http://ec.europa.eu/health/scientific_committees/opinions_layman/tobacco/en/l-2/5.htm

[danthepoetman]

Well, Dan, the invention of the wheel led to all sorts of possibilities :p

I'm playing. For all I know, you're my age, but you seem more mature.
Naw! really not, Trixi... I'm a 54 years old grand-father... :)

I was smoking pot in the 70's, mostly, up to the beginning of the 80's...

[danthepoetman]

...and that is before hydroponic...

[Ms.Stepford]

I've always heard thay the pot wasn't as strong back then. Sucks! Smoke that good now. :)

I don't even know where to get bad weed if I don't want to go down a sketchy alley and put money through a mail slot. (I don't.) Even they'd probably have mids.

I think you're around my father's age. That's about optimal dating age for me...

[fred41]

I've always heard thay the pot wasn't as strong back then. Sucks! Smoke that good now. :)

I don't even know where to get bad weed if I don't want to go down a sketchy alley and put money through a mail slot. (I don't.) Even they'd probably have mids.

I think you're around my father's age. That's about optimal dating age for me...

The pot wasn't as strong back then. Weed nowadays is much better.

I use one of these,but I just broke my second one...so I'm going to see what's out there that's small and efficient :

[Ms.Stepford]

Yeah, I def want one of those. You'd just smell weed in the bar, but it'd already be in my purse.

[fred41]

Yeah, I def want one of those. You'd just smell weed in the bar, but it'd already be in my purse.

That particular unit gets a little hot in the front...and you have let it heat up for about 2 min.before you take your first hit...but it doesn't give off a strong weed smell....it smells kind of toasty,but mild. I believe there's a lot of small vaporizers
out there now (this co.- iolite makes one that's smaller now too I believe)..gonna go see what's available when I get a chance..let me know what you wind up getting,if you get one - (these units break down for me after awhile...but I do use em a lot)

[Ms.Stepford]

I like how you call them units ;)

[fred41]

I like how you call them units ;)

..sometimes a cigar is just a cigar...









...and sometimes it is,in fact,..a cock. :)

[danthepoetman]

I've always heard thay the pot wasn't as strong back then. Sucks! Smoke that good now. :)
I don't even know where to get bad weed if I don't want to go down a sketchy alley and put money through a mail slot. (I don't.) Even they'd probably have mids.

It was more of a social substance. It made you talk and relate. I used it everywhere; I couldn't do anything without smoking a J: reading, watching tv, going to movies, having sex, sleeping -I had to smoke to have nicer dreams... For 30 to 40 bucks you could have enough of it to make 40 Jz as thick as a lady's pinky, if not bigger. Putting a little tobacco in them, you could practically smoke it like cigarettes. It was not as strong but it fucked you up much less; it was more fun, less buzzed, at least to the old guy I am. When I smoked some back, later in the 80's, I didn't like it anymore... whisky had taken all the place anyways by then... :)


I think you're around my father's age. That's about optimal dating age for me...
Mmmmmm! I purr like a big cat just entertaining this thought...

[Ms.Stepford]

My dad doesn't like to spend his money on proper ganja because he smokes too damn much at a time and wastes it.

Just take a puff or two. You ain't gotta smoke a whole joint.

My livelihood is majorly hinged on talking and relating. I'd say, to a greater extent than my looks or my sensual prowess, and I'm usually pretty smoked down. :)

I like how it makes sounds and colors richer and puts a nice grin on my face.

Oh, and it makes sex feel even better. :jerkoff

This forum really should have an icon like that with a bow on the smiley's head.

[danthepoetman]

My dad doesn't like to spend his money on proper ganja because he smokes too damn much at a time and wastes it.
Just take a puff or two. You ain't gotta smoke a whole joint.
My livelihood is majorly hinged on talking and relating. I'd say, to a greater extent than my looks or my sensual prowess, and I'm usually pretty smoked down. :)
I like how it makes sounds and colors richer and puts a nice grin on my face.
Oh, and it makes sex feel even better. :jerkoff
This forum really should have an icon like that with a bow on the smiley's head.
It's so difficult to concentrate on a reply with this fabulous new avatar, Trixi! MMmmm!

You know, about sex smoked on, I always felt that everything was better, except the orgasm, a bit number than without pot. But yes, the colors, wow! and everything else relating to the senses: so much more intensely felt. Music and sounds, taste, feeling, sight! The only times I was able to really enjoy nature was high.
For some reason, it started to freak me out at some point. But I was in a tough spot in my life. And when I started again some years later, pot had changed so much it was not the same at all.

Here's some funny stuff I found for you, Trixi...
http://www.hardcorepatches.com/images/weed%20smiley%20face.jpg
https://s3.amazonaws.com/assets.svpply.com/large/662973.jpg?1368235354
http://www.tokeofthetown.com/2010/03/13/SmileyNoPot%20flip.jpg
http://www.psychedelia.dk/forum/download/file.php?avatar=11247_1276786692.jpg
http://skreened.com/render-product/d/a/a/daahpoytiosaskaosyad/image.w174h200f3.jpg
http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mfMpG4cwSWOhg0F75dbq9fg.jpg
http://image14.spreadshirt.com/image-server/v1/compositions/17483214/views/1,width=178,height=178,appearanceId=66/Stoned-marijuana-leaf.jpg

[Ms.Stepford]

Nice, Dan! Should I change my avi to one of those? :p

I'd hate to distract you guys.

I gotta admit...I've gotten myself off to that set.

[nysprod]

Nice, Dan! Should I change my avi to one of those? :p

I'd hate to distract you guys.

I gotta admit...I've gotten myself off to that set.

Love the new avatar Trixi...come down to nyc for a Yum photoshoot!

[Ms.Stepford]

I may or may not have one coming out but I might have pissed someone off. It's not professional to talk about it, but it's sort of a funny story.

[danthepoetman]

Nice, Dan! Should I change my avi to one of those? :p
I'd hate to distract you guys.
I gotta admit...I've gotten myself off to that set.
I love to be distracted this way! Please, no: don't take it away!! :)