"Kickstarter" for porn.... awesome

[Rabbiteyes]

So... apparently there are kickstarter sites for porn. Things just got interesting :3 I wonder why no one here has tackled crowd funding their work.

'D***starter?' The Kickstarters for Porn - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeU-t3dViSY)

[dderek123]

Dickstarter haha nice

[bluesoul]

I wonder why no one here has tackled crowd funding their work.

seanchai tried (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showpost.php?p=1307981&postcount=1)- but the lack of creativity amongst members meant nothing became of it

[nysprod]

seanchai tried (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showpost.php?p=1307981&postcount=1)- but the lack of creativity amongst members meant nothing became of it

Oh fuckin bullshit...I came up with a few perfectly good ideas:

1. Shemales on Spring Break

2. Shemale Strippers Go Wild

3. Shemale Sorority

4. Japanese Shemale Schoolgirls Get Spanked

5. Shemale Nuru Massage Parlor

6. Shemale Bachelor Party

I can think of plenty more off the top of my head...and I'm more than ready to put my money where my mouth is, if I like the business structure.

[bluesoul]

none of your ideas materialized into a porn though- which was the idea behind the crowdfunding thread.

btw: here is an idea for a porn. shemale srs doctor office attack. the premise? a chaser masquerading as a srs specialist is fucking trannies who go in for srs. a team of specialist trannies is deployed to counter attack the perpetrating doctor by fucking him- revoking his license and getting srs (from another doctor)

potential candidates for this movie: all the bald dudes who do porn, a gangload of trannies and 1 gg as a the doctors assistant. special guest star brian pumper as a random dude getting his ass licked in the parking lot

budget: minimal. everything should be shot in 1 room with a faux background of the los angeles skyline

am willing to split the writing credit with anyone who'll help develop this further

http://24.media.tumblr.com/7c5d28eb57674d235b921cb006ccde0b/tumblr_mhg9ch5HBh1qbq49go1_500.jpg

[nysprod]

none of your ideas materialized into a porn though- which was the idea behind the crowdfunding thread.



Gee, I wonder why?

[Rabbiteyes]

seanchai tried (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showpost.php?p=1307981&postcount=1)- but the lack of creativity amongst members meant nothing became of it

That looks more like he was telling other people (consumers) to just crowd source what they want.... instead of professionals or those who see this as a career taking charge and doing it (2 very different things. Entrepreneurship is a hard road to walk, it is much more complicated than an afternoon having sex in front of a camera).

Also, for projects.... someone should make a really hot power fantasy tranny porn :3 Like a masquerade ball, but with a heavy dominant / submissive theme.

And push the quality and do some great color grading and a bit of story. :3

Hurry! Someone pornstart it!! :)

http://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large/masquerade-ball-eugene-james.jpg

[VictoriaVeil]

Also, for projects.... someone should make a really hot power fantasy tranny porn :3 Like a masquerade ball, but with a heavy dominant / submissive theme.

And push the quality and do some great color grading and a bit of story. :3

Hurry! Someone pornstart it!! :)

http://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large/masquerade-ball-eugene-james.jpg


Noted ;)

[BellaBellucci]

Oh fuckin bullshit...I came up with a few perfectly good ideas:

1. Shemales on Spring Break

2. Shemale Strippers Go Wild

3. Shemale Sorority

4. Japanese Shemale Schoolgirls Get Spanked

5. Shemale Nuru Massage Parlor

6. Shemale Bachelor Party


Yeah, me too. How about a title that doesn't have the word 'shemale' in it? :yayo:

I mean, really. There are a half dozen words one can use to describe us. What's the obsession with that one? :?

~BB~

[nysprod]

Yeah, me too. How about a title that doesn't have the word 'shemale' in it? :yayo:

I mean, really. There are a half dozen words one can use to describe us. What's the obsession with that one? :?

~BB~

It's not an obsession Bella...just a term used in transexual porn...not one I use on a personal basis.

[rockabilly]

I had an idea for an 80's summer camp themed porn once.

Camp Tranny or whatever.

Think of it as the "Meatballs" of tg porn ... pun is too obvious there.

[GroobySteven]

Oh fuckin bullshit...I came up with a few perfectly good ideas:

1. Shemales on Spring Break

2. Shemale Strippers Go Wild

3. Shemale Sorority

4. Japanese Shemale Schoolgirls Get Spanked

5. Shemale Nuru Massage Parlor

6. Shemale Bachelor Party

I can think of plenty more off the top of my head...and I'm more than ready to put my money where my mouth is, if I like the business structure.

Fairly awful and I don't just meant this because I don't care for you. IN MY OPINION, those are just a bunch of trite ideas that can be thrown together into a DVD and wouldn't create anything new other than what's out there. If I'm throwing money into something, I want to see something that hits a better mark.

However, it is crowd sourcing so there might be enough people into a "shemale bachelor party"* that would be interested in the investment. Did you name the stars? Who would produce etc,

* or any other title.

[GroobySteven]

That looks more like he was telling other people (consumers) to just crowd source what they want.... instead of professionals or those who see this as a career taking charge and doing it (2 very different things. Entrepreneurship is a hard road to walk, it is much more complicated than an afternoon having sex in front of a camera).

Also, for projects.... someone should make a really hot power fantasy tranny porn :3 Like a masquerade ball, but with a heavy dominant / submissive theme.

And push the quality and do some great color grading and a bit of story. :3

Hurry! Someone pornstart it!! :)



Nope, I said I'd either invest also - or more likely put the project together and do the aspects of the production based on what the crowdsource wanted, as well as distribution. None of the ideas FOR ME worked. For others they might be.
I'll take a look again and see if I can come up with a list for people to look at.

[LibertyHarkness]

i am all up for "shemale sperm burpers " :)

[nysprod]

Fairly awful and I don't just meant this because I don't care for you. IN MY OPINION, those are just a bunch of trite ideas that can be thrown together into a DVD and wouldn't create anything new other than what's out there. If I'm throwing money into something, I want to see something that hits a better mark.

However, it is crowd sourcing so there might be enough people into a "shemale bachelor party"* that would be interested in the investment. Did you name the stars? Who would produce etc,

* or any other title.

Ok, without the animosity and just as a conversation, explain to me what exactly is "awful" about "Shemales on Spring Break"...and I'm not saying this is something that's going to revolutionize the industry/groundbreaking/etc, but how is this so much worse than what's out there?

"Japanese Shemale Schoolgirls Get Spanked" is definitely a niche within a niche, but it's never been done...if you want something that's brand new, I mean, what's left at this point?

[dderek123]

Do a porn spoof of the Friday the 13th movie. Just get christian to wear a goalie mask and each of his victims can be a really hot young TS. And the twist ending is that they could gang up on him for some sexual revenge or whatever.

[GroobySteven]

Ok, without the animosity and just as a conversation, explain to me what exactly is "awful" about "Shemales on Spring Break"...and I'm not saying this is something that's going to revolutionize the industry/groundbreaking/etc, but how is this so much worse than what's out there?

"Japanese Shemale Schoolgirls Get Spanked" is definitely a niche within a niche...but it's never been done...if you want something that's brand new, I mean, what's left at this point?


"Shemales on Spring Break" - assume a group of tgirls are on spring break and they end up having sex with guys and themselves ... it's not "so much worse than what's out there" it's just been done before, plenty of times, or so similar that it's not even worth talking about. We package scenes together to maximize our scenes and any of those could be converted to a "Shemales on Spring Break" scenario without so much trouble. What's "awful" about it, is that it's not what I'd look for, for doing something new.

"Japanese Shemale Schoolgirls..." is certainly a niche within niche and unlikely to have enough sales to make it worthwhile.

What I'm looking for is a DVD, or a project with specifics in it, which would make it worth producing and getting out there and is different (and could potentially make money. Now I could be completely wrong and you could get a bunch of investors crowdsourcing "Shemales on a Spring Break" made with the models of their choice, the producers, the designers etc. and it could (and should) be able to make money - but it's not the sort of thing I'd be looking for on a crowd source project. If you want to get more specific on it and post it, I'll happily promote it and see if others are interested and do the co-ordination on it.

[nysprod]

Then I have ideas posted over on RD's thread...this has a twist, something very in demand, and not played out to death:

Shoot a vid, or at least include one scene in a vid, shot from the guy's perspective...working title "Shemales I Want To Suck"

You could have a brief scene with 2 male talents talking about their love of tranny cock...then one of the guys finds one, chats her up about how he loves sucking and getting fucked by shemales...the action proceeds from there.

Other titles...actually these are good ideas for entire series:

1. I Love Bottoming For Shemales

2. Shemale Cock Hound(s)

[natina]

my idea is

SHEMALES FUCK NEOCONS

SHEMALES FUCK TELEVISION EVANGELIST

SHEMALES FUCK "A" LIST CELEBRITIES

SHEMALES FUCK CATHOLIC PRIEST

who would I get to star in it and would it be reality based is the question

[Rabbiteyes]

I think a mini web-series (comprised of "chapters" of a larger story... of course it is still porn :P But the story gives some type of continuity between different scenes and elevates it into a bigger experience for the customers as they follow the characters from situation to situation....instead of the 4th wall breaking "porn star" going from "Scene to scene"). This shifts it a little closer to hentai (which uses context to really give the scenes more impact).

http://g.e-hentai.org/g/170401/f85c96327b/

Kind of like in Banana Games, yea it is porn... but also they try to build the characters up during the series so they become more than just "body having sex". Tons of sex, but there is also an overarching story tying everything together and making things more interesting.


The theme would revolve around corruption of an innocent looking tranny by some established body (you see this theme often, like in memoirs of a geisha... or tons of written stories). You could even play on the "transformation" fetish and feminize the main character during the series to some degree (of course, ending up her becoming a mindless sex pet :P).



Other scenes could include older dominant trannies (with motives of jealously of the attention the new pet gets). Or various men ( "training" by being forced to act as a whore). Really, there is a lot of ways you can take it (and many mainstream fetishes you could hit)... but the key factor is keeping it within context and letting people continue following the fantasy and world you are creating (instead of just the typical short term scene created for 30 minutes).

Actually, since it is being tied through story, you could transition from one setting to another during the course of the series without much trouble (letting you pull in more variety and turn it into a more ongoing project).

Basically...stop making "just another porn scene" and bump it up a notch or two. Right now it seems most porn is like individual still images.... shallow and lacking context...just naked bodies fucking. Sure, that has its place, but it also means there is a HUGE opportunity for those who want to take it a little further.

[nysprod]

Some more working titles:

1. Boys in Heat for Shemale Meat

2. Yo, Where Da Shemale Dick At?

3 Ass Up Bottom Boys

4 Hey Girl, Can I Suck Your Cock?

[Buddy Wood]

I've always thought a good web series was the way to go!!

A continuing saga!!

[Amber Littlefeather]

Hey everyone:-) ..Ok I have a idea it comes from seeing the pics of jamie and eva's trip to CA. I can't help to think that if you had a cameraman traveling with them filming their adventures people would watch it.. this alone I'm not sure on the earning potential hopefully enough to cover the models and the cameraman...But if can coordinated it with a evant like the Tranny Awards,photo shoot and club appearances..it very well could be profitable by the draw too Tranny awards,The models photo shoot/web site and advertising revenue gained from club appearances from the models..I think it can be market in two ways to the porn fans and the non porn customer...for the porn fans they could see their favorite models in everyday life and The non porn customer would see a Transgenders life..just a idea Amber L.

[GroobySteven]

Some more working titles:

1. Boys in Heat for Shemale Meat

2. Yo, Where Da Shemale Dick At?

3 Ass Up Bottom Boys

4 Hey Girl, Can I Suck Your Cock?

Working titles for what? You're just making up "catchy" names without substance. Stop it or start a thread for "Catchy names I've made up for TS titles".

[Rabbiteyes]

and The non porn customer would see a Transgenders life...

The public's perception that transgender = sex work is a HUGE problem ... transgender should be striving to get away from that stigma (not play to it).

I have no problems with those who do sex work (obviously), but fight the battle for that acceptance on its own.... don't shackle the two very different battles together.

[buttslinger]

Filthy, disgusting, low-down sleezoid biker chicks. Spitting on the society that has rejected them. Pissing on square innocent captive chicks tied up at their clubhouse. Dragging citizens behind their thundering Hogs. They all have to get killed in the end, though,..... I see this film doing well in France.

[Amber Littlefeather]

The public's perception that transgender = sex work is a HUGE problem ... transgender should be striving to get away from that stigma (not play to it).

I have no problems with those who do sex work (obviously), but fight the battle for that acceptance on its own.... don't shackle the two very different battles together.
Hey hun..I have to say I agree with you to a point but playboy did somthing like this with Kendra..have you seen the numbers on Bailey Jays 7 questions on youtub..I will add that my own fan base from non porn sites do you enjoy my move to lets say more risky photos...it was a idea i had that i think would be profitable.

[Rabbiteyes]

it was a idea i had that i think would be profitable.

Ohh, I thought you meant it from an activism point of view (trying to shed light on the life of a transgendered person) as apposed to a marketing angle (behind the scenes extras).

I think a good way to pull in more fans outside of the typical consumer base would also be to diversify where you are seen.

Basically, instead of being strictly adult entertainment ... you could also run a game review youtube channel (or even continue the adult entertainment, but keep it PG13... with a "behind the scenes" youtube channel). People would find you from youtube, but continue following into your other work. Just an issue of exposure pretty much.

[buttslinger]

In my head I see storyboards, locations, weather for dramatic effect, catering, wardrobe, makeup, equipment, lighting, etc etc etc, but I think I've figured out you girls want a quick idea for a 30 minute photo shoot.

My nephew made a film with his college buddies, a gross out flick, after several years he finally JUST broke even selling it to the outfit that owns Toxic Avenger, or something like that. Now he's older and his friends all have jobs and they all wants to get paid for their services. The stakes have risen.

I'm guessing the only return for most girls is the subscription to their websites, so that changes things a lot, maybe a soap opera deal where you set up a camera and have two or three actors ham it up. All those soap opera chicks are glamour girls, so you probably already have clothes. And in between all the fuckin' you can build characters that the viewers get interesting in, and want to tune in so they don't miss anything. At least acting doesn't cost anything, and it would fill up the lulls between the astral climaxes, and flirting onscreen. I watched a Mexican Soap Opera in a Peruvian El Pollo place, even not knowing Spanish I knew exactly what was going on from the cheezy expressions and phone calls in the middle of dinner. I have a hunch that a lot of you girls would love to be movie stars.
Probably most of you live real life soap operas anyway. Sex and Money. Makes the World go round. and Rabbit Eyes. Whoa!

[Rabbiteyes]

In my head I see storyboards, locations, weather for dramatic effect, catering, wardrobe, makeup, equipment, lighting, etc etc etc, but I think I've figured out you girls want a quick idea for a 30 minute photo shoot.

That actually was what I was picturing too (well, a little smaller scale. You don't need a huge camera crew to handle a shoot :P But wardrobe , makeup, lighting, location, a bit of storyboard and writing...definitely!).

If you are gonna do something, might as well do it right :)

[Amber Littlefeather]

Ohh, I thought you meant it from an activism point of view (trying to shed light on the life of a transgendered person) as apposed to a marketing angle (behind the scenes extras).

I think a good way to pull in more fans outside of the typical consumer base would also be to diversify where you are seen.

Basically, instead of being strictly adult entertainment ... you could also run a game review youtube channel (or even continue the adult entertainment, but keep it PG13... with a "behind the scenes" youtube channel). People would find you from youtube, but continue following into your other work. Just an issue of exposure pretty much.
Well so much for a original idea...KD with Tgirl Canada has done something close to what I was talking about with around Toronto with Eva Winters.:-D

[nysprod]

Kickstarter for porn can't work...everyone thinks they're a porn producer/director/etc...there's no one to take control and make decisions...too many cooks.

[buttslinger]

Again,.....my nephew did a stop=action Lego movie when he was a kid, and he put it on youtube, and it got lots of hits, so an advertiser wanted to put a banner on it and pay him. BUT, he had put some copyrighted music on it, and the deal fell through, So I don't know, once you SELL it, then what, does everyone need a SAG card?? Do you have to pay scale and send out IRS notices? Do you have to pay your cameraman health insurance?
Takes the fun out of it, too much like work.

But if you could pull it off, you could sell it at Sundance and get it on HBO!!

[Amber Littlefeather]

As I attempted to contribute to this thread it got me thinking that maybe full length porn is not the way to start out and that maybe starting with solo shoots with a little video packaged in would be the way to go for a few reasons #1 the risk is lower for you and whatever production company picked your shoot #2 you can develop the necessary skills like booking models, photographer if you don't have the skills and finding a suitable location to have the your shoot.. #3 Making and staying a budget.. #4 building a reputation for yourself with production company as well as models... Anyone thinking the same way?

[Rabbiteyes]

As I attempted to contribute to this thread it got me thinking that maybe full length porn is not the way to start out and that maybe starting with solo shoots with a little video packaged in would be the way to go for a few reasons #1 the risk is lower for you and whatever production company picked your shoot #2 you can develop the necessary skills like booking models, photographer if you don't have the skills and finding a suitable location to have the your shoot.. #3 Making and staying a budget.. #4 building a reputation for yourself with production company as well as models... Anyone thinking the same way?

Humm, I'm not sure.

It all depends on the scale of the project. If it was just a single performer trying to get a small scale thing going...that isn't so expensive. It just starts to get more costly when you really start making it into a full production.

It also depends on the goals of the project (is it to build recognition? to create an IP and longer term work around the project? a short one time thing to try and make a little money and cash out? Or maybe just an experiment to try something new and have some fun in a field you enjoy?).

For a larger project (like the web series) it would need some heavier lifting in terms of production (more in terms of talent and time than shear numbers).

Risk - This isn't as big an issue since it is crowd funding (so even if the project financially fails, the backers still helped make something they wanted...and the production was paid for. Only loss is time). You don't really even need to work with a production company (at least if you have talent working on the project already).

Location / skills - Yea, it is just running a project though. Doing an indie film isn't that bad (I've been involved with a few) , even though it is adult entertainment it still seems like it works about the same as a small scale indie (under the radar :P).

Budget - This could be tricky, but on tiny productions with tight budgets you get used to "all hands on deck". Depends how many professionals you get involved in the project (I've seen some amazing stuff done on shoestrings. It all comes back to a time issue in the end).

Reputation - This comes from involving more established people in the project and general footwork to get the word out (along with a little web advertising). The best case scenario would be to partner up with those with a reputation already who are looking for projects (like if grooby became involved).

[Amber Littlefeather]

:iagree: very good info ty hun:-D

[Toadily]

Here is my "catchy" names without substance

The UnPassables- starring some of the loud mouth girls from HA
What happens in Bangkok, stays in shecock
NoWood, post op edition make it a western theme
Men in Black garters
Club Illusions - They look like girls but once in the Champagne room


I'll let you know where to send the royalty checks :dancing:

[Johnny.Blaze]

Oh fuckin bullshit...I came up with a few perfectly good ideas:

1. Shemales on Spring Break

2. Shemale Strippers Go Wild

3. Shemale Sorority

4. Japanese Shemale Schoolgirls Get Spanked

5. Shemale Nuru Massage Parlor

6. Shemale Bachelor Party

I can think of plenty more off the top of my head...and I'm more than ready to put my money where my mouth is, if I like the business structure.

I've been a member to many, many, many websites. And I honestly have to say that I wouldn't buy a membership to not one of those sites. They all seem pretty cheesy "sorry"

[Westheangelino]

What DON'T we see? How about one guy gets gang banged and cream pied by five hung angels? Simple but awesome. They all take turns fucking until they're about to cum, then pull out and stroke while the others fuck him until the last one busts nutt inside him then they all enter again and blow their wad. The ending clip is the guys asshole pulsating and oozing out cum

[Amber Littlefeather]

Here is my "catchy" names without substance

The UnPassables- starring some of the loud mouth girls from HA
What happens in Bangkok, stays in shecock
NoWood, post op edition make it a western theme
Men in Black garters
Club Illusions - They look like girls but once in the Champagne room


I'll let you know where to send the royalty checks :dancing:
The 1st one is a bit harsh don't you think! :'(

[Johnny.Blaze]

I've had this DVD idea for awhile that I always thought would work. However it would have to have good capitol to get it going since it involves an actual story/scenery, and not just two people fucking in a room. A director that knows what he or she is doing, when it comes to that style. And the girls involved would have to be able to actually act, let alone look their particular parts. There are some girls off the top of my head that could pull this off.
Sarina Valentina, Yasmin Lee, Eva Lin, Danni Daniels. To name a few.

Think of it as sort of a return to the 80's style of porno. Where there was good story but also hot sex.

Anyway I fear saying to much here will have my idea stolen so I certainly won't say much in open forum. But surely if any producers care to hear my ideas. Feel free to inbox me....

Also: As for a website idea. There definitely needs to be a site that's not all about hardcore. I'm talking about a site like the transromantic dvd series. Sensual, and passionate type scenes. To me, that's a big turn on. And I know many others think so as well, hence transromantic winning best dvd at the tranny awards...I so wish I lived in Cali. I have ideas out the Whazoo That could make shit loads of money !!!

[Janet77]

This site sounds like a great way to get swindled.....Having said that, since everyone is throwing out their cheesy ideas for pornos, Here is mine: I have always wanted to see a movie where a guy breaks up with his fiance because she is too vanilla for him. A few weeks later, the fiance runs into her ex at a bar with his new, ultra-slutty girlfriend, who taunts the fiance with tales of the nasty, kinky sex that she has with her ex. The jilted fiance takes this as a challenge, and transforms herself into a nasty slut herself to win her man back. Oh, the possibilities...:jerkoff

[dderek123]

I thought my Friday the 13th idea was pretty good. Perhaps a good dickstarter campaign should be more to do with the pornographic content and not the setting, costumes and theme.