Does POV work in TS porn?

[TSPornFan]

Does POV work in TS porn?

I honestly don't think so. I've seen directors and pornstars try this. However, it just doesn't work for many reason.

1. Everyone's favorite director Tomcat shot a POV scene for TS Seduction. There is clearly a major flaw to this idea. The scene is shot in the guy's point of view. Sounds good doesn't it? However, he is being topped and he will suck the T-Girl's dick. First, his face WILL be shown while giving head. Thus, the scene is no longer POV. Secondly, no one wants to see a close up of a man's ass getting fucked the entire time.

2. I've seen T-Girl on T-Girl scenes trying to use POV. The scene is truly a POV scene. However, viewers want to see BOTH girls. You can't make a girl on girl scene, and only show one girl.

3. We don't want to see a POV scene from the girl's point of view. I don't need to explain that.

[youngblood61]

If done right it works. I've seen a couple good ones!

[dderek123]

I like POV. I like to watch different kinds of porn to spice it up a little.

[Wendy Summers]

Does POV work in TS porn?

I honestly don't think so. I've seen directors and pornstars try this. However, it just doesn't work for many reason.

1. Everyone's favorite director Tomcat shot a POV scene for TS Seduction. There is clearly a major flaw to this idea. The scene is shot in the guy's point of view. Sounds good doesn't it? However, he is being topped and he will suck the T-Girl's dick. First, his face WILL be shown while giving head. Thus, the scene is no longer POV. Secondly, no one wants to see a close up of a man's ass getting fucked the entire time.

2. I've seen T-Girl on T-Girl scenes trying to use POV. The scene is truly a POV scene. However, viewers want to see BOTH girls. You can't make a girl on girl scene, and only show one girl.

3. We don't want to see a POV scene from the girl's point of view. I don't need to explain that.

One of my best selling iFriends replays was a solo shot POV with a dildo as a stand-in for the guys cock. There's definitely a market for it.

[saifan]

Yes.

[timxxx]

Doesn't work for me :(

[youngblood61]

Would really like to see more of it.:)

[TSMichelleAustin]

My memberships rise everytime I put a POV up, so its very popular. I just did a POV where we both held the camera and both fucked each other. POV means someone is holding came during sex doesnt matter who it is.

[christianxxx]

i don't think it works either. i have thought about shooting a few POV scenes, or starting a POV site, but its just not practical.

1. in the BJ you have to see the cock on the TS while she is blowing you or its just a girl. and thats hard to catch with your camera

2. during the sex, first of all holding a camera and fucking with a condom would be next to impossible but lets for the sake of argument say its bareback...

3. well doggie is pointless, bc you can't see the cock, and so is reverse cowgirl, so really there are only 2 positions possible - missionary and cowgirl.


thats not really enough footage to make a good scene that would sell to a wide audience.

I am sure that Michelle and Wendy have found success on a limited basis for the one off POV scene, but as a whole its not a sustainable thing in my opinion.

So I agree with you Franklin

[RadiusDark]

What you're saying can't work is easily rectified. Good thing I only listen to myself. LOL.

Check out my POV scene with Kitty and Gina...

Did it work? Well, I didn't come close to losing any money on this scene. Yes it did and the girls got a ton of work after this.


Does POV work in TS porn?

I honestly don't think so. I've seen directors and pornstars try this. However, it just doesn't work for many reason.

1. Everyone's favorite director Tomcat shot a POV scene for TS Seduction. There is clearly a major flaw to this idea. The scene is shot in the guy's point of view. Sounds good doesn't it? However, he is being topped and he will suck the T-Girl's dick. First, his face WILL be shown while giving head. Thus, the scene is no longer POV. Secondly, no one wants to see a close up of a man's ass getting fucked the entire time.

2. I've seen T-Girl on T-Girl scenes trying to use POV. The scene is truly a POV scene. However, viewers want to see BOTH girls. You can't make a girl on girl scene, and only show one girl.

3. We don't want to see a POV scene from the girl's point of view. I don't need to explain that.

[youngblood61]

Differing views from the performers interesting.

[francisfkudrow]

What you're saying can't work is easily rectified. Good thing I only listen to myself. LOL.

Check out my POV scene with Kitty and Gina...

Did it work? Well, I didn't come close to losing any money on this scene. Yes it did and the girls got a ton of work after this.

I liked it!

[EZWind]

POV that works is rare, but if it's done right it's hot as hell. Most of the great ones are solo shoots...eg the Me and You stuff from Joanna Jett and the SMStrkrs, where she's talking directly to me and I'm looking at her. The couples stuff gets tricky for exactly the reasons you stated
" his face WILL be shown while giving head... Secondly, no one wants to see a close up of a man's ass getting fucked "....amen to that, bro...there's a ton o gay porn out there if that's what you're after. So the girl pretty much needs to be passive. Or, with 2 TGirls you could have the performers do the camera work, carefully, if at all possible, so as not to be too shaky...as RD demonstrated. But Radius, I realize that Hamster clip was outtakes, but shots showing the performer operating the camera need to go on the cutting floor, or at least be cropped out to exclude the camera....ruins the illusion.

"We don't want to see a POV scene from the girl's point of view. "
....well, not entirely...if it's 2 TGirls or TS/GG that's fine by me

[danthepoetman]

I can remember a few films with t-girls from Brazil that were great in POV. Yes, to me it can work. I guess Christian is right in the fact that some angles wouldn't be covered, but on a hot scene with some creativity and variation in positions, it might not be missed. I don't really see why it would not work as well as it does for regular porn.

[youngblood61]

I remember that scene and it was hot RD!:jerkoff

[GroobySteven]

POV works extremely well for some people - others dislike it a lot, it's just a matter of taste. Lot's of early Buddy Wood and Tony Vee were POV ... and they were highly successful. We may be doing some more POV depending on the photographer, it's not for everyone.

[MacShreach]

I like POV because:
a) I never, ever, ever, want to see the guy's face, and especally not ever when he comes. No personalisation of the males, only the girls
b) BJs are REALLY boring. Big meh. Inevitable FF to get to the action. So the fact that it's not easy or impossible in POV is OK
c) I don't need to see the girl's cock all the time. I mean I'm not agin it, but the occasional glimpse is OK. If she has one and it works, it's nice to see her come.POV is perfect for that, since she's going to have to be on her back getting railed, or sitting on the guy pointing to camera. Either are fine.
d) I want the guy as invisible as possible. No face angles. Not being able to do long shots is a trade-off I'll accept if it means the guy remains completely anonymous.
e) POV is clearly a bit of a juggling act, and it does tend to make the guy SHUT THE FUCK UP, which is very very good indeed
f) (nearly forgot) POV has the HUGE benefit that it's impossible to get the camera round the back so you get a view up the guy's arse. NO,no, no,no, silly rabbit that is NOT how it's done. NO male arses, not ever.

As far as I am concerned the guy's just a dildo, I don't need any reminding that he's actually real. Sorry. Also, simulated POV, in which another guy is filming very close to the ...guy....is a bit disconcerting. And what is it about the cameramen who work like this that they can't keep their dicks in their pants?

Obviously anything in which they guy gets fucked.....EEEEWWWWWWW FAST FORWARD.....so concerns about its practicality for POV are irrelevant here.

POV solo is a different matter. It very rarely works because girls very rarely give themselves the kind of seeing-to they'd get from a man. But if they do, and there are a few, then it's OK. But solo is generally far better filmed properly with long shots etc.

POV doesn't work in girl-on-girl. Here I want to see the long shots, and all of both women. Can't do that with POV as Christian said.

[LibertyHarkness]

myself personally i dislike pov i find it dull and boring ... thats just my personal taste ...

I much prefer more erotic/cine style shots to watch that have a fantasy surreal look to them .. for me when i look at porn (which is rare i actually look at it these days as i prefer photosets to actual videos) i want to be taken away in my fantasy land .. so i love all the grading/filters/soft focus etc some of the really accomplished producers like marc dorcel/kaizen/kendo deliver ..

Only time i really do POV stuff is if its not costing me anything to produce the content, example i have done some POV Stuff with joanna jet, britney etc, we did this just as an adhoc mess about at the end of the day of proper shooting scenes ... so it was just a quick easy way to lob up a hardcore scene with minimal effort put in :)

I also do video my escort clients sometime with me for quick 5min clips of them fucking me or me sucking them just to lob up on my adultwork clipstore,, this shit sells pretty quickly so for that purpose i find it ok ...

But as with all porn styles, POV is here to stay, much the same as Gonzo , feature style etc and i am glad they are here as diversity is the name of the game in this industry, if we all shot the same type of styles shot the same scenes etc it would be a boring place indeed . .

I have seen some of these new HD 1080P glasses cameras that some people have been using for shoots to integrate some POV bits into their scenes .. looked quite funny

[Jericho]

Hate to agree with Franklin but, POV scenes generally tend to bore the piss out of me! :shrug

[moonunit7]

To me, POV is okay when combined with a second or third non POV camera. The thing I don't like about it, is the guy can usually never hold the camera steady. Sometimes it bounces around so much, it can make you seasick. The microphone on the camera is often rubbing up against something, making hideous popping, crackling and rubbing noises, which also tends to happen in non POV shoots too (for some reason). Nothing drives me more crazy than some dummy with a camera that can't hold it steady for 2 seconds and doesn't know even the basics of lighting.

[EZWind]

I like POV because:
a) I never, ever, ever, want to see the guy's face, and
d) I want the guy as invisible as possible, and it does tend to make the guy SHUT THE FUCK UP, which is very very good indeed
f) NOT how it's done. NO male arses, not ever.
As far as I am concerned the guy's just a dildo, I don't need any ...etc

...damn, Mac, you got some kinda Vulcan mind meld goin' here...I agree w/ these sentiments 1000%...except for the part about BJs...I do like that stuff, as long as it's a Girl doing the blowing

[EZWind]

Nothing drives me more crazy than some dummy with a camera that can't hold it steady for 2 seconds and doesn't know even the basics of lighting.
...got that right...or sound editing



...hideous popping, crackling and rubbing noises, which also tends to happen in non POV shoots too (for some reason).

...the reason being money and/or laziness...b/c they're using the mike on the camera instead of a separate boom...nice to see Rodney finally upgraded his equipment...on some o those SMStrkrs you can even hear the gears grinding when he operates the zoom feature. Of course, w/ a minimum of time and effort this can all be edited out of the soundtrack in post, but it's rarely done. A pet peeve of mine that really frosts my flakes because it destroys the hotness of many an otherwise fine scene

[fuckstudent]

Jonelle Brooks - This is What Real Sex Looks Like (26.03.2013)

Don't know if this counts as POV, but it's one of the hottest scenes i ever saw (and i saw many) and i'm not even a fan of Jonelle.

[Buddy Wood]

POV TOTALLY WORKS!! In every possible form of film or video...if done right. It's a style!!

My first few DVDs (back in the day) were ALL POV and I treated the idea of the viewer living through me, my dick and the actions he would see through my camera very seriously. lol Girls had to talk into the camera and not to me. We'd set up scenarios where the guys could feel like they were the ones meeting the girls while out. It's point of view!! The whole idea is to give the viewer the idea that...it's him!!! That's awesome in porn!!

My inspiration was always good horror films like John Carpenter's Halloween. Or Brian DePalma films. They are filled with POV to scare and fill viewers with suspense. Same can be done to turn viewers on!

POV is obviously always gonna have certain shot limitations. YOu can't get everything. But the fact that the viewer is getting all the action as if it were him hopefully makes up for that...and when it's the guys POV you basically get everything but the girl's dick getting sucked.

But yeah...shakey camera and camera noise can totally ruin it. You still gotta have a good editor.

Last POV scene I did was for Buddy Wood's Shemale Bedtime Stories. I fucked Jessica Host AND Jesse Flores!! it was fun!!

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[TSPornFan]

POV TOTALLY WORKS!! In every possible form of film or video...if done right. It's a style!!

My first few DVDs (back in the day) were ALL POV and I treated the idea of the viewer living through me, my dick and the actions he would see through my camera very seriously. lol Girls had to talk into the camera and not to me. We'd set up scenarios where the guys could feel like they were the ones meeting the girls while out. It's point of view!! The whole idea is to give the viewer the idea that...it's him!!! That's awesome in porn!!

My inspiration was always good horror films like John Carpenter's Halloween. Or Brian DePalma films. They are filled with POV to scare and fill viewers with suspense. Same can be done to turn viewers on!

POV is obviously always gonna have certain shot limitations. YOu can't get everything. But the fact that the viewer is getting all the action as if it were him hopefully makes up for that...and when it's the guys POV you basically get everything but the girl's dick getting sucked.

But yeah...shakey camera and camera noise can totally ruin it. You still gotta have a good editor.

Last POV scene I did was for Buddy Wood's Shemale Bedtime Stories. I fucked Jessica Host AND Jesse Flores!! it was fun!!

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To me that is kinda weird. You don't normally see one scene out of many in a DVD to be POV. Normally the entire DVD is one way or another.

Too bad Grooby never booked Jessica Host as a bottom in a non-pov scene.

[terrygrooby]

Good thing I only listen to myself.

Amen to that.

[Buddy Wood]

You think it's weird that there's one scene that's POV and the rest are not?? It's called variety Franklin!! Come on. It's what most of this industry is based upon. Or should be!;-) What's even weirder though is the movie is a story all told in flashbacks and I still got a POV in there!!

And I'm pretty sure Jessica Host has few scenes as a bottom through Grooby. Doesn't she have a whole DVD?? Or does she only top in it? I could be wrong. I'm too lazy to look it up and unless I shot it I'm not sure. I shot her in another early DVD of mine and it was POV scene also...Buddy Wood's Shemale Schoolgirls. That DVD is also mixed with some POV...some not. Khloe Hart's first scene.

You should watch that one Franklin to get the feeling your in class with Jessica!!

[NHG]

Yes, POV works very well when properly selected and properly edited. No, of course it doesn't work for everything, nor does it work all the time. That said, I must confess that I love it.

[dderek123]

You think it's weird that there's one scene that's POV and the rest are not?? It's called variety Franklin!! Come on.

http://1000words1000days.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/GOB-ComeOn.jpg

I think the concept of variety is lost on poor little Franklin.

[christianxxx]

all of the proponents of POV give 1 off examples of how they did it. That's great, but i thought we were talking about a series or an entire DVD.

Radius Dark - gave 1 single example
Buddy Wood - a single example
Jonelle Brooks - 1 example

everything gives 1 example of their fantastic POV scenes. If they were all that great, you would see an entire DVD or website. That's what I was talking about. I don't think it would work other than a singular change-of-pace scene like what Buddy Wood did. #endrant

[tsadriana]

all of the proponents of POV give 1 off examples of how they did it. That's great, but i thought we were talking about a series or an entire DVD.

Radius Dark - gave 1 single example
Buddy Wood - a single example
Jonelle Brooks - 1 example

everything gives 1 example of their fantastic POV scenes. If they were all that great, you would see an entire DVD or website. That's what I was talking about. I don't think it would work other than a singular change-of-pace scene like what Buddy Wood did. #endrant
At least you do a great job..Keep the work coming your great and the guys jelouse hehe :mad:

[TSPornFan]

You think it's weird that there's one scene that's POV and the rest are not?? It's called variety Franklin!! Come on. It's what most of this industry is based upon. Or should be!;-) What's even weirder though is the movie is a story all told in flashbacks and I still got a POV in there!!

And I'm pretty sure Jessica Host has few scenes as a bottom through Grooby. Doesn't she have a whole DVD?? Or does she only top in it? I could be wrong. I'm too lazy to look it up and unless I shot it I'm not sure. I shot her in another early DVD of mine and it was POV scene also...Buddy Wood's Shemale Schoolgirls. That DVD is also mixed with some POV...some not. Khloe Hart's first scene.

You should watch that one Franklin to get the feeling your in class with Jessica!!


Jessica Host doesn't have any bottom scenes through Grooby. Your POV scene and SMC's scene are her only two bottom scenes.

[Toadily]

I am just waiting for the headset from Strange Days, that will take POV to a whole new level. I will never leave my house.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-pOT5dXQr64o/T06Jw5f46zI/AAAAAAAAAZQ/UXPoEYSwAdM/s400/strange-days-original.jpg

Michael Wincott in Strange Days- 3 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuQes0k9ZuU)

[terrygrooby]

the google glass?

I wouldn't mind watching a whole DVD of ts pov.

Before producing, pov and solos were about the only stuff i liked.

The only movie i watched in the past 4 years is Spandex load which is 100% pov and if there was a carbon copy of this movie with ladyboys, i'd like it even more.