Lisa Lawer as a guy

[bigpapi81]

So, I wasn't sure someone has already posted a picture of her as a man, but i was very curious and found this, and I thought i'll share it with you.

[youngblood61]

Wow!

[Merkurie]

I'm sure she will make a great dad.

[danthepoetman]

For fuck's sake, God help us!!!!!!

[Johnny.Blaze]

WTF??? What, did she go back to being a full on male? Or is that pic from before?

[RyderMonroe]

yea she found Jesus/went crazy and detransitioned from what I understand..

[youngblood61]

Stuff happens

[bluesoul]

I'm sure she will make a great dad.

http://i.imgur.com/FBGsi.gif

[Merkurie]

I'm pretty sure Jesus did not ask her to do that.

As far as the family, I think its beautiful. Put your children first in the best way you know how.
But, unless Lisa was one hell of an actress, I think she may have buried part of herself in the process. I hope I am wrong.

[youngblood61]

http://i.imgur.com/FBGsi.gifLol:wiggle:

[danthepoetman]

Same thing got through my mind, Merkurie. When you go so far as she had, you have to have some deep inner impulse to do it. I just wonder if she didn't deny a huge part of what she really is inside. What do you think of it, Ryder? You're probably the only one on this thread so far who can have an enlightened opinion on this... Of course, we don't know much about the story...

[RyderMonroe]

Well they say that about 2% of all trans ppl detransition. Most because of societal pressures but some genuinely realize that they just aren't trans. I think Anytime someone's detransition coincides with finding Jesus it's suspicious though lol.

[danthepoetman]

Well they say that about 2% of all trans ppl detransition. Most because of societal pressures but some genuinely realize that they just aren't trans. I think Anytime someone's detransition coincides with finding Jesus it's suspicious though lol.
Yes, good thinking, Ryder. Jesus is the suspicious aspect of it. It's just a shame, because I remember this girl often improving her look; I'm sure she had some surgeries, one on her nose, for instance. There's little doubt she was sure of her feminine identity at some point. I would usually say: if she's happy, good for her/him. But this is one of these cases I'm hesitant to do so. I just can say that I "hope" she's happy and remains happy...

[syla]

I just think its good that she can make such bold decisions as detransitioning..that's a pretty huge decision I would say. So kudos for that. Big, beautiful loss those to the TS cause though.

[Johnny.Blaze]

yea she found Jesus/went crazy and detransitioned from what I understand..

LoL Went crazy? It seems so. I just can't understand how someone would go through all that work to transition into a female, do porn none the less, then yrs later go back and be a male again. She may have one or two scrooples missing upstairs, if ya know what I mean - lol

[danthepoetman]

LoL Went crazy? It seems so. I just can't understand how someone would go through all that work to transition into a female, do porn none the less, then yrs later go back and be a male again. She may have one or two scrooples missing upstairs, if ya know what I mean - lol
Well, Nybpro or Johnny, I think it's a good example of how difficult it must be to transition, how difficult it must be for these women to transition. If someone so far gone in her transition can fall to pressure and go back, you can imagine how much pressure there must be. It's very difficult to put ourselves in other people's shoes. And especially in this case, on this forum, which is a porn forum, where we come to enjoy the beauty of trans women. We loose sight of how much of a struggle it is to go through such ordeal as having to adjust your body to your inner sense of self, your inner sexual identity. A simple way is to befriend someone gay, and then imagine that for a tgirl, it's 10 times as difficult. I don't know what happened to Lisa Lawer. She was a beautiful woman. That Jesus would be the reason invoked here, rather than a deeply thought decision, is already a sign that it might just have been one of these social pressures that got her to renounce litterally herself, her own self. But you can't help feeling for her...

[Johnny.Blaze]

Saying it was because she found Jesus is basically saying that being trans is a sin? I certainly don't feel that way. I don't think being trans is a sin at all.....

[danthepoetman]

Saying it was because she found Jesus is basically saying that being trans is a sin? I certainly don't feel that way. I don't think being trans is a sin at all.....
Yeah! exactly. You can't help thinking she might have fell for some kind of gimmick. Then again if it's someone, if it's for love, it might complicate things a bit. Yet, being a transsexual woman doesn't have anyting to do with your sex orientation in the first place. So what happened to her? Difficult not to picture this one in a negative way...

[runround04]

Hopefully she, er, now he again is happy, gotta be tough transitioning twice.

[Rivz]

I think the sad thing is there are so many trans girls that wish they looked as hot as Lisa, and she pretty much turned her back on it. It's almost a waste.

[youngblood61]

Hopefully she, er, now he again is happy, gotta be tough transitioning twice.:iagree:

[Mr. Sinister]

I can't believe that Lisa Lawer went from a blond bombshell to a regular guy, but what matters is that Lisa is happy.

[Johnny.Blaze]

Ok this just keeps getting weirder. According to the TS Identification Database. They say she, well I guess now he, Reverted back to Male status, to marry a distant cousin.

Yep, I had a feeling there where some scooples loose....

[TS Evelyn Summers]

Mr. Visaack married his Cousin or something & now has a THRIVING Beauty Salon....

He even has a facebook page for it....


Hey said at that it was because of HER that he choose to revert back into his former self.

[Castor_Troy05]

I believe it's not so uncommon in Brazil, I'd heard that some gay men out there transition to make money and het guys then change back later in life

[MacShreach]

Ah, good luck to him. He looks happy and that's a bonny baby he's got. And as I think I said the last (or maybe the one before) time this was discussed, just think of all the stories he's got to entertain his grandkids--'Did I ever tell you about the time I screwed your Auntie Dany while Scorpion was fucking my arse? Well, it was like this, see......'

[Jimmy W]

Why is her face all black? And who is that guy holding her?

[Quiet Reflections]

some scooples loose....i don't think that means what you think it means

[youngblood61]

Ok this just keeps getting weirder. According to the TS Identification Database. They say she, well I guess now he, Reverted back to Male status, to marry a distant cousin.

Yep, I had a feeling there where some scooples loose....:hide-1:

[maddygirl]

She's a cute guy. I'd tap that. LOL.

[iagodelgado]

I believe it's not so uncommon in Brazil, I'd heard that some gay men out there transition to make money and het guys then change back later in life

If he's a gay guy who did it for money then he's a gay guy who is married to a wife and has fathered two kids. (At least. I know there are two. I think there may be three, but I'm not sure.)

Would that make him a closet gay? :wiggle:

[bassman2546]

yea she found Jesus/went crazy and detransitioned from what I understand..

This alone is a prime example of the evils of religion. He makes a choice to become a beautiful transgender woman and some 'Jesus' influences her to make a choice other than her own. Oh well. As long as he's happy now, I guess, genuinely happy.

[rasta]

Jesus is not neccesarily a negative thing. And im not suggesting that tramsitioning is a negative or a positive. Finding jesus vpcan mean that this person realized happiness was down this path. Symbolically joining with jesus is a path of enlightenment

I have seen lisas videos and it is indeed shocking to see this person change this way.

[runningdownthatdream]

This alone is a prime example of the evils of religion. He makes a choice to become a beautiful transgender woman and some 'Jesus' influences her to make a choice other than her own. Oh well. As long as he's happy now, I guess, genuinely happy.

Or maybe it's simply a prime example of a person doing what they want for their own personal betterment without giving a shit about the repercussions to a legion of cock lovers

[bassman2546]

Or maybe it's simply a prime example of a person doing what they want for their own personal betterment without giving a shit about the repercussions to a legion of cock lovers

Who said it had anything to do about 'cock lovers'? I've seen so many people that think they've 'found God', in other words brainwashed to be someone that they think they are, when in fact they are not. They end up regretting the decision they made and sometimes the chance to follow their heart, once again, has passed them by. Instead of being true to themselves, they're true to some other 'being'.

But, back on topic. This thread is about the former Lisa Lawer.

[Nikka]

hey I made that first pic , very famous photoset :) , Lisa Lawer convinced me to get my boobs done, how Ironic?

[Imperial]

Disturbing.

[lifeisfiction]

This alone is a prime example of the evils of religion. He makes a choice to become a beautiful transgender woman and some 'Jesus' influences her to make a choice other than her own. Oh well. As long as he's happy now, I guess, genuinely happy.

If you look at his facebook page, it was not religion, it was love. There are some age old questions, but one of them is how much is happiness worth. His wife is pretty, but I think it must be more than that. Being honest, many people have very miserable lives but pretend to be happy about themselves. I don't know, but it maybe in this case he found the happiness he was missing. Many may not agree with how he has obtained it, but has what others do not have for now.

[Nikka]

If you look at his facebook page, it was not religion, it was love. There are some age old questions, but one of them is how much is happiness worth. His wife is pretty, but I think it must be more than that. Being honest, many people have very miserable lives but pretend to be happy about themselves. I don't know, but it maybe in this case he found the happiness he was missing. Many may not agree with how he has obtained it, but has what others do not have for now.

heart touching

[Vladimir Putin]

About as depressing as TSs having SRS. Lisa was really beautiful as a woman. Hate it when they become born-again Christians. One of my favorite rock bands from the 80s broke up when the drummer left the band, became a born-again Christian and swore off rock music forever.

But I wish him and his family well.

[Quiet Reflections]

About as depressing as TSs having SRS
I don't know you and you might be a really nice guy but every times I hear or read something like this I immediatly wish said person off a bridge.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Why be so judgmental?

A lot of girls are misdiagnosed or just transition to make money in porn/escorting/drag work

[Ben]

It could be more common than we know....
I'm a left-leaning libertarian so -- :)

[Females+Shemales]

I enjoyed her work. Shame she didn't continue.

[jennyj23]

I see a lot of posts halfway condemming him for his choice. Despite the claims of tolerance the tg community is actually pretty intolerant. It is like they are a traitor or some such thing if they leave that community.

[MacShreach]

I would actually like to see a serious, no piss-taking, sympathetic interview with him. Whatever you thought of the things he has done or the reason for them, this is a very interesting person who has made some very deep decisions about life, and whose journey is a story worth hearing.

[txjr3]

Fuck, he can do whatever he wants - looks like his tackle was still working at least. Posting that pic does seem a bit of an invasion of privacy, btw.

[red-cyberman]

This is so weird. It's her or his choice now to do whatever he wants. Everyone here who talks about finding Jesus is condemning him for no apparent reason whatsoever. He can find anyone he likes it's his choice in the end like or not. The same shit happens every time when a TS does SRS or change back to being a man.
There are many important topics and dangers going all around us that this is so stupid to even mention.

[danthepoetman]

I see a lot of posts halfway condemming him for his choice. Despite the claims of tolerance the tg community is actually pretty intolerant. It is like they are a traitor or some such thing if they leave that community.
Yes, Jennyj, there's an apparent paradox here. But I think the feeling is that transsexuality is such a deep condition in many if not most t-women, so profoudly felt -it is as you know a matter of identity, of knowing who you are and feeling that the outside doesn't correspond to the inside-, it requires so many sacrifices to transition, and on the opposite and simulteneously, there is so much social pressure not to do it, there is still such a social stygma attached to it, that when someone so far on the path detransitions, you just wonder what might have happened. It's not so much disaproval as it is a certain sense of worriness for the person and a sense of awe, I suppose. Has she detransition from the effect of social pressure? Is she in the end, renouncing what she is deep down to satisfy someone or to fit in? Is it a case of narrowness from the people around? from society? I guess that's pretty much the questions that comes to mind.
Now if she had transition just to make some dough, it's a whole different ballgame, of course. If it was nothing deep if, as Castor alluded to, she just did it like other people in Brazil with the idea of making money and getting out of it after, it's something else. And indeed, people are free, and no none has any business judging them.
But if it's from pure peer pressure, it's wrong; not of her, but the situation is shitty and sad. And Cyberman, no, Jesus is not a deep enough reason to detransition in itself. You might believe and I respect that, but in this case, it's such a deep conditon that you can't pray it away. Like for instance sexual orientation: Jesus won't cure you. Well, it's even deeper with transsexuality...


This is so weird. It's her or his choice now to do whatever he wants. Everyone here who talks about finding Jesus is condemning him for no apparent reason whatsoever. He can find anyone he likes it's his choice in the end like or not. The same shit happens every time when a TS does SRS or change back to being a man.
There are many important topics and dangers going all around us that this is so stupid to even mention.

[MacShreach]

People get way too hung up about this and it comes down to a panic reaction to having been excited by, or in bed with, someone who was male before that event, and male after...and so were they actually male at that all-important moment and if they were, does that make us gay? :ignore::hide-1:

Like it matters?

[maddygirl]

People get way too hung up about this and it comes down to a panic reaction to having been excited by, or in bed with, someone who was male before that event, and male after...and so were they actually male at that all-important moment and if they were, does that make us gay? :ignore::hide-1:

Like it matters?
If anything it matters how the person questioning saw them. If he saw "her" as a woman when she lived as one, and was attracted to her feminine qualities, than no he's not gay. However, if he de-transitioned because he found that he's actually male, then in essence, yes they would have been sleeping with a man with boobs and makeup, but yeah, who cares.

[MacShreach]

If anything it matters how the person questioning saw them. If he saw "her" as a woman when she lived as one, and was attracted to her feminine qualities, than no he's not gay. However, if he de-transitioned because he found that he's actually male, then in essence, yes they would have been sleeping with a man with boobs and makeup, but yeah, who cares.

I'm not so sure. I think there is an understandable tendency to say that gender is set in stone, partly for validation and partly to discourage head-banger 'reparative therapists' who have seized on the idea that it isn't to do damage to transpeople.

But actually I think it's much more fluid than that. Some people are 'intergendered' not fully one nor the other, and some people feel themselves to be different genders at different times. This shouldn't really be a surprise, since the concept of binary gender (or for that matter sexual attraction) is contrary to the observed patterns of biology; all species display variation on all parameters. Sex, gender, attraction are a range of shades of grey, not black/white, on/off binary.

So someone could easily be genuinely a woman at parts of her life, and a man at others. Would a man who slept with her when she was a woman be gay? I don't think so, and anyway it shouldn't matter.

[christinafoxx]

Amazing.


So, I wasn't sure someone has already posted a picture of her as a man, but i was very curious and found this, and I thought i'll share it with you.

[martin48]

Ugly looking kid!



So, I wasn't sure someone has already posted a picture of her as a man, but i was very curious and found this, and I thought i'll share it with you.

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/attachment.php?attachmentid=595781&stc=1&d=1372489431

[dakota87]

Ugly looking kid!




http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/attachment.php?attachmentid=595781&stc=1&d=1372489431

The resemblance is uncanny
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[surf4490]

How did he get rid of the big but ?

[Rivz]

I wonder if his wife/cousin straps it on for him/her?

[MacShreach]

Wake up and smell the transphobia, hey...

Leave him alone. As long as he's a loving dad and husband, nobody's got any cause for sniping.

[bzzzay]

I see a lot of posts halfway condemming him for his choice. Despite the claims of tolerance the tg community is actually pretty intolerant. It is like they are a traitor or some such thing if they leave that community.

I think it's a far stretch to say, in this case, that the transgender community is intolerant. I would guess that most of us, like myself, watch transsexual porn and may even date a transgender woman if the opportunity presented itself, but I don't think most of us would consider ourselves part of the transgender community.

But I may be misunderstanding the concept of a "transgender community" incorrectly to be comprised of transgender individuals in the same way most people think of the "gay community" is composed of gay individuals.

[Nikka]

now I fuck this pussy in the name of Jesus