A question for the forum's women! Have you ever tricked a straight guy in real life?

[TSPornFan]

We've seen the TS Seduction scenes about the hot transgender women luring the unsuspecting straight guy into sex. In real life that can be very dangerous and sometimes deadly.

Have you ever tricked a guy in real life? You kept your "business" a secret until that time came. What was the guy's reaction? How do tricked guys normally react?

[EvaCassini]

Put yourself in that situation. Do you want to get beat the fuck up? Stabbed? Bludgeoned? Killed?

What the fuck do you think will happen? This is no story book.

I can't believe you asked this. What a fucktard.

[beaufont]

I don't think it would always end up like you see in the film's Franklin.......you need a reality check :screwy

You know the thing you profess to be a critic on is not real life RIGHT? :hide-1:

[TSPornFan]

Put yourself in that situation. Do you want to get beat the fuck up? Stabbed? Bludgeoned? Killed?

What the fuck do you think will happen? This is no story book.

I can't believe you asked this. What a fucktard.

You're very ignorant. There are TS women who actually trick guys for long periods of time. My friend's best friend was lied to for many dates. I clearly remember Quinn saying in an old interview that she did this many times.

[beaufont]

You're very ignorant. There are TS women who actually trick guys for long periods of time. My friend's best friend was lied to for many dates. I clearly remember Quinn saying in an old interview that she did this many times.

As soon as you mentioned the word friend I knew this was a lie :party:

[TS Evelyn Summers]

NOPE!!!


Because I Refuse To Tuck!!!!!


They already KNOW The Business...lol

[EvaCassini]

Franklin....I'm ignorant? REALLY? REALLY? EXPLAIN how you are not ignorant.

You are so fucking clueless. You bring NOTHING to the table, and if you praise to be an "unprofessional porn critic", one would think that you would understand this and not make a stupid thread about it.

[my my my!]

I know a couple of local girls that have done that Franklin.

Yes, it is stupid and dangerous. But they said it turned them on so much, it was almost like a rush to see how far they can go with a guy before he finds out. Maybe a little bit of self validation through straight encounters.

Thankfully for the girls, one of them actually got laid guess the guy didn't mind. and the other girl, the guy just threw a hissy fit and left but never laid a hand on her.

[maddygirl]

Eh, the way I see if it's a one night stand there's no reason to tell him. But if I'm actually into him or see boyfriend potential I'd definitely want to tell him. I haven't done anything like that as of yet. Lol. Then again I've only been post-op for 2 months, but yeah, if it's not meaningful and just a 1 time sexual encounter, I wouldn't see a reason for telling him.

[TSPornFan]

We've seen the TS Seduction scenes about the hot transgender women luring the unsuspecting straight guy into sex. In real life that can be very dangerous and sometimes deadly.

Have you ever tricked a guy in real life? You kept your "business" a secret until that time came. What was the guy's reaction? How do tricked guys normally react?


I don't think it would always end up like you see in the film's Franklin.......you need a reality check :screwy

You know the thing you profess to be a critic on is not real life RIGHT? :hide-1:

How about you READ THE ENTIRE POST.

[amberskyi]

I hate the whole notion of tricked because it implies that we aren't really woman and our lives are really an act of deception

[EvaCassini]

How about you READ THE ENTIRE POST.

You answered your own question, stupid.

"A question for the forum's women" - How about you read your entire title, dumbass.

I bet you get off to being a rotten, spoiled, little child. Your actions and reactions are very infantile.

[beaufont]

How about you READ THE ENTIRE POST.

Tell your friend's best friend :wiggle:

[EvaCassini]

Tell your friend's best friend :wiggle:

Nice! :) :iagree:

[TSMichelleAustin]

It is dangerous tricking guys! I have seen my friends get beat up because of this even had a guy shoot at a girl in Houston years ago. It is not a game, what u see on film rarely happens. I even have a post op who never told a guy for yrs she was once a guy, when he found out he became enraged and beat shit out of her. They were engaged too, but sometimes guys turn crazy when lied too.

One time did I never tell a guy I was trans, until a few days later on phone. But we never did anything but chat at a club. He couldnt get past me being trans so we never went on date or anything.

[trish]

Have you ever tricked a straight guy in real life? Yes and no. I intentionally pass in my daily life. So in one sense I "trick" my butcher, my baker and even my candlestick maker. But then in another sense, I'm just being who I really am and not tricking them at all.

But of course I'm being pedantic aren't I. What you mean is, "Have I ever intentionally seduced a straight man without cluing him in that I had a special surprise for him?" No. It's a fantasy for some of you guys (and I do appreciate and understand your distinctive enthusiasms) but it's not something I feel comfortable springing on an unsuspecting guy who is interesting enough to possibly win my sexual attentions.

It did happen once unintentionally. I was in a dive with some friends of mine and a guy asked me for a dance. He was gruff and muscular, but I was interested in catching up with my friends and refused the offer. But he coaxed and so we danced. After a few shots and a few dances, his hands were everywhere. His friends were admiring his prowess from their seats. I admit I was getting turned on (he was a hunk) but somehow I knew this wasn't going to end well. Before I could find an excuse to cut and leave, he discovered the forbidden surprise. It wasn't a pretty scene. He felt trapped, I was embarrassed. He shouted threats at me and pulled a knife. He slashed. I backed away, my friends surrounded me and we skedaddled; hoping to hell we wouldn't be followed outside. We weren't. They drove me to a hospital to get the back of my forearm stitched up.

[TSPornFan]

You answered your own question, stupid.

"A question for the forum's women" - How about you read your entire title, dumbass.

I bet you get off to being a rotten, spoiled, little child. Your actions and reactions are very infantile.

I didn't answer my own question. You're very uneducated. The question is for TS Women. I can't answer the damn question. First, I'm not a TS. Secondly, I haven't tried to trick anyone.

[EvaCassini]

I didn't answer my own question. You're very uneducated. The question is for TS Women. I can't answer the damn question. First, I'm not a TS. Secondly, I haven't tried to trick anyone.

Are you now just consistently targeting me because you think you can win anything?

Why don't you listen to the other girls in here and realize WHY we don't do this. Especially Amber's, Michelle's, and Trish's.

Stop being a twat, it makes you look ugly.

So...you never met me...never conversed with me in person, never seen me, never LISTEN and UNDERSTAND what I say here ( perhaps because you are 12 ).....YET...you call me "uneducated". You are a loon. How am I uneducated. EXPLAIN fucker.


HEY FUCKLIN...where do you live? I would love to meet you in person. Would you like to physically fight with me? Would that make you feel better, knowing that you could beat me up or something, would that
Tickle your Pickle? Perk your Gherk?

Does it make you better than I, that you want to fight with a girl, especially on a porn forum? LMAO Grow up.

[maddygirl]

I didn't answer my own question. You're very uneducated. The question is for TS Women. I can't answer the damn question. First, I'm not a TS. Secondly, I haven't tried to trick anyone.
You're like a sassy gay man who always has to be right or he throws a fit. Let it go love.

[dderek123]

I don't think it would always end up like you see in the film's Franklin.......you need a reality check :screwy

You know the thing you profess to be a critic on is not real life RIGHT? :hide-1:

Well hasn't Franklin mentioned on here that he's a virgin? That explains a lot about him.

[fred41]

Damn...I didn't think the question was all that bad.
Some people were uncomfortable with the phrasing (I guess)..but it did get a couple of very good responses so far.

[Ms.Stepford]

In the vein of Amber and Trish's response, no, they thought they were flirting with a badass chick, and that's exactly what they were doing. Am I "tricking" all the guys in my neighborhood who flirt with me? Nope. I'm just being myself.

Have I let things go pretty far with a guy without telling him I had a cock? Yes, I have, but I make sure I tell them before we leave the bar or club or whatever. I'm just pretty nonchalantly like, "you know I have a cock, right?"

They usually still come home with me. As an escort, I'm very used to guys wanting to play with my cock, but most of the random pickups are like "well, you suck dick and I can put it in your butt, right? Let's go," which is fine with me.

If it's in a public place it's an acceptable risk. Where I hang out, if there's the slightest problem, I'll have a dozen gutter punk kids at my side in a second, and I didn't exactly spend four years in the Army infantry learning how to get beat up.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Many times between 16 to 18

[SuzySnappz]

Damn...I didn't think the question was all that bad.
Some people were uncomfortable with the phrasing (I guess)..but it did get a couple of very good responses so far.

I agree that I didn't think it was *that* bad a question... some have actually done it. But Franklin has earned a bit of ill will in the past with some weird questions with an agenda. (see "Should an escort give a virgin a discount") So I can understand the reaction.

[natina]

I want to see guys get trick with that GLUE AND TAPE tucking that I have seen and its incredible

its assume!

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=4192&page=12

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=4192


who use this while working at a strip club,going to the ladies room and

even some with clients for there escorting or other relationships


many TS in deep stealth mode


CHECK THIS OUT

Hi doll < SONIA> 11/09 11:48


It is very painful and dangerous. You have to soak in a hot tub for about four hours and still its hard to get off.
We used that years ago when I used to work, so the guys couldn't find out.
If you did it good enough they could even eat you.

Blast from the past; Aunty SONIA


trick a guy after you glue on one of these fake vagina prosthetics



I hate the whole notion of tricked because it implies that we aren't really woman and our lives are really an act of deception

[f-finger]

The question wasn't "fucktard"ed at all. Because if you happen to observe this scene for quite some time tricking straight guys is exactly what a great number of trannies are into. I guess it's for validation aspects and/or thrills. They even boast about it on boards, their blogs or twitter feeds. May those stories be true or not.

[TSMichelleAustin]

Damn...I didn't think the question was all that bad.
Some people were uncomfortable with the phrasing (I guess)..but it did get a couple of very good responses so far.

Yes it is a great question but a dangerous one that isn't portrayed in porn scenarios that he only knows. Most guys who are homophobic or very str8 when they find out a girl is not who she is precieved to him to be, he feels betrayed and hurt. And sometimes that turns to anger and wondering about sexuality. Even though she is just being herself.

Now trust me all of us trans girls are women, that's how we live our lives. So in everyday world we "trick" tons of people just living our normal lives. But the fact that a girl would go through an act of fooling a guy can be dangerous in the end, or traumatize a guy. So its a great topic that needs to be discussed. But reality isnt the same as the movies!

[natina]

what ever happen to those guys who married POST OP TS's and found out thru other people that made the news recently?



STORY #1


'Mate, your girlfriend was a bloke'

The Daily Telegraph
February 06, 200812:00AM


•Officers taunted man over girlfriend's past
•Man went home and belted the hell out of her
•Officers charged with breaching privacy laws

GARRICK Jacobson was in custody at Sydney's Surry Hills police station when he apparently discovered his girlfriend used to be a man.

Within hours of being released on bail, he went to her apartment and started "belting the hell" out of her, Downing Centre Local Court heard yesterday.

The two NSW police officers who allegedly revealed the information about his then partner's past are now charged with breaching privacy laws.

In a rare prosecution under the Privacy and Personal Information Protection Act, Constables Tyrone Stacey and Brendan Ritson have pleaded not guilty to unlawful disclosure of information.

The offence is punishable by up to two years in jail.


The court heard Jacobson, 26, was held in custody on September 24, 2006, after being arrested for suspected theft.

Stacey allegedly used the police computer system to access information about Jacobson's then girlfriend, Brigitte Fell, revealing her gender as male.

Ritson, who was looking over his colleague's shoulder, allegedly shouted to Jacobson: "You're r...ing a bloke", the court has heard.

After Jacobson denied it, he was allegedly shown paperwork indicating her gender and told: "See, it's a guy."

As the officers defended the case yesterday, Ms Fell gave evidence that the incident "ruined my life".

She told the court she was born a male, undergoing gender reassignment surgery about 12 years ago "in London, and it cost a fortune".

Complete strangers subsequently told her it was "the best sex change we've ever seen", she said.

But Ms Fell did not share the information about her surgery with Jacobson, her boyfriend of about two months, because "he was temperamental enough".

MORE

http://www.news.com.au/national-old/mate-your-girl-used-to-be-a-bloke/story-e6frfkwi-1111115484527


STORY #2

Man Discovers His Indonesian Wife Used To Be A M< isiscochina (https://forums.craigslist.org/?act=su&handle=isiscochina) >11/28 16:47:41

Belgian Man Discovers His Indonesian Wife Used To Be A Man . . . After 19 Years of Marriage!



Husband discovers his wife used to be a man after 19 years of marriage

The daily Het Nieuwsblad on Saturday carried the remarkable story of a man from Antwerp who after 19 years of marriage discovered his wife used to be a man. 'I feel I've been assaulted' the duped husband told the paper in an extensive interview.


http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/threads/127785-Belgian-Man-Discovers-His-Indonesian-Wife-Used-To-Be-A-Man-After-19-Years-of-Marriage!?p=3743961

[caliuncut]

Jesus Christ...It's just a question on a forum. All you have to say is "no I haven't done it, it's too dangerous". Even though it's obvious people have done it, just look at the responses. Eva loves to fight and get so hostile for some reason...chill the fuck out.

[EvaCassini]

You know HOW MANY TIMES this particular discussion has been toss around here??? Too many, and way more than enough that people should understand the danger of it.

I don't like to fight, however, Flunklin is a flea, and a pest and he knows it and I don't like him because he is a TROLL. I barely "fight" but when I do, it's mostly because Fucklin is doing/saying something stupid as shit.

[runningdownthatdream]

eh, the way i see if it's a one night stand there's no reason to tell him. But if i'm actually into him or see boyfriend potential i'd definitely want to tell him. I haven't done anything like that as of yet. Lol. Then again i've only been post-op for 2 months, but yeah, if it's not meaningful and just a 1 time sexual encounter, i wouldn't see a reason for telling him.


ramifications!

[danthepoetman]

Of course you have ideals and reality as opposites. But you try to fight to eventually fit the ideal into reality; that's what we, humans, do to imporve life, and it has improved with history -at least for a part of the world.
Michelle and Amber are totally right: t-women are women. You live like women, metabolize feminine hormones, feel like women, move and talk like women, and were women from the beginning, from the very condition we call transsexuality. There's no real trick, there. Your identity is that of women! By showing yourselves as women, you therefore obviously don't trick anyone. The fact of the matter is, you are being tricked yourself by guys who find you ladies seductive, attrative, lovely, who manifest it to you in unequivocal ways, and then suddenly, when they find you have a little extra, become vehement or violent. These guys are either idiots, or ignorants. In any decent group or collectivity, you set idiotic jerks aside as outcasts, as much as possible, and try to teach the ignorants. That's what we have to keep on trying to do in this society.

[maxpower]

I want to see guys get trick with that GLUE AND TAPE tucking that I have seen and its incredible...



Jeez...you'll use anything as a reason to make another post about your bizarre prosthetic/tucking bullshit, won't you?

[Amy Gray]

Reads thread...
Fuckin' Asian!

[Ananke]

Anyone wants to trick me?...you are welcome...I like surprises...hehe

[danthepoetman]

Anyone wants to trick me?...you are welcome...I like surprises...hehe
LOL!
I'm also ready to be "tricked" anytime!

[maddygirl]

ramifications!
Lol, weirdo.

[Imperial]

A reasonable question to ask. To suggest this doesn't happen is complete and utter nonsense. The media have reported many cases.

Eva is being a drama queen. Her reaction to a harmless thread has been completely over the top and taken out of context.

[SuzySnappz]

Eh, the way I see if it's a one night stand there's no reason to tell him. But if I'm actually into him or see boyfriend potential I'd definitely want to tell him. I haven't done anything like that as of yet. Lol. Then again I've only been post-op for 2 months, but yeah, if it's not meaningful and just a 1 time sexual encounter, I wouldn't see a reason for telling him.

I think the question kind of assumes that you are not post-op, though... the vast majority of girls on these boards are not post-op. This is a very different situation for a post-op girl versus pre-op (or non-op or TV).

I agree it's not really a big deal to not tell a one-night stand your status if you are post-op, it doesn't seem that risky.

[Nikka]

my first time in London I did, the guy was from middle east, he wanted to kill me I think, I had to run, so never again

[nysprod]

The vast majority of shemales in their private lives want a straight guy who will fuck them and ignore their dicks completely.

The ideal situation for a TGirl: After she tells the straight guy she has a dick, the guy says something along the lines of "that's OK, you can still blow me and I can still fuck your ass." Notice how this ideal situation guy didn't say something like "wow, I always wanted to try having sex with a TGirl" or "can I blow you?"

If you are an "admirer", even if you're top only, at some point you will want to touch and suck her cock but once you do that, you forever are a "fag" and a "chaser" in her eyes...and no matter how nice/generous/good you are to them, that's all you will ever be.

Fawning over them won't help either...makes it worse, actually.

[Ben in LA]

The vast majority of shemales in their private lives want a straight guy who will fuck them and ignore their dicks completely.

The ideal situation for a TGirl: After she tells the straight guy she has a dick, the guy says something along the lines of "that's OK, you can still blow me and I can still fuck your ass." Notice how this ideal situation guy didn't say something like "wow, I always wanted to try having sex with a TGirl" or "can I blow you?"

If you are an "admirer", even if you're top only, at some point you will want to touch and suck her cock but once you do that, you forever are a "fag" and a "chaser" in her eyes...and no matter how nice/generous/good you are to them, that's all you will ever be.

Fawning over them won't help either...makes it worse, actually.
Bam!
:iagree:

[danthepoetman]

The vast majority of shemales in their private lives want a straight guy who will fuck them and ignore their dicks completely.

The ideal situation for a TGirl: After she tells the straight guy she has a dick, the guy says something along the lines of "that's OK, you can still blow me and I can still fuck your ass." Notice how this ideal situation guy didn't say something like "wow, I always wanted to try having sex with a TGirl" or "can I blow you?"

If you are an "admirer", even if you're top only, at some point you will want to touch and suck her cock but once you do that, you forever are a "fag" and a "chaser" in her eyes...and no matter how nice/generous/good you are to them, that's all you will ever be.

Fawning over them won't help either...makes it worse, actually.
And it's ok like that too! They're GIRLS! They might like women too, but at some point, they will want to be with a GUY... a guy in the strict, narrow, obtuse definition of the word with the demeanor and attitude that comes with it. I find that totally banal. (And I don't want to hurt yours or anybody's feeling by saying this).

[amberskyi]

The vast majority of shemales in their private lives want a straight guy who will fuck them and ignore their dicks completely.

The ideal situation for a TGirl: After she tells the straight guy she has a dick, the guy says something along the lines of "that's OK, you can still blow me and I can still fuck your ass." Notice how this ideal situation guy didn't say something like "wow, I always wanted to try having sex with a TGirl" or "can I blow you?"

If you are an "admirer", even if you're top only, at some point you will want to touch and suck her cock but once you do that, you forever are a "fag" and a "chaser" in her eyes...and no matter how nice/generous/good you are to them, that's all you will ever be.

Fawning over them won't help either...makes it worse, actually.

What complete and utter bull shit...i actually prefer a guy who has experience with a ts girl

[f-finger]

What complete and utter bull shit...i actually prefer a guy who has experience with a ts girl

It might be bullshit to you, but the guy has a point and you know it. It is true in many cases.

[amberskyi]

It might be bullshit to you, but the guy has a point and you know it. It is true in many cases.

According to who?

[nysprod]

And it's ok like that too! They're GIRLS! They might like women too, but at some point, they will want to be with a GUY... a guy in the strict, narrow, obtuse definition of the word with the demeanor and attitude that comes with it. I find that totally banal. (And I don't want to hurt yours or anybody's feeling by saying this).

It's has nothing to do with what's OK or not, it's just a statement of fact: TGirls in their private lives want straight guys who don't go near their dicks i.e. guys that don't have an interest in TGirls per se, just her...anything else is chaser/fag/pervert.

[runningdownthatdream]

The vast majority of shemales in their private lives want a straight guy who will fuck them and ignore their dicks completely.

The ideal situation for a TGirl: After she tells the straight guy she has a dick, the guy says something along the lines of "that's OK, you can still blow me and I can still fuck your ass." Notice how this ideal situation guy didn't say something like "wow, I always wanted to try having sex with a TGirl" or "can I blow you?"

If you are an "admirer", even if you're top only, at some point you will want to touch and suck her cock but once you do that, you forever are a "fag" and a "chaser" in her eyes...and no matter how nice/generous/good you are to them, that's all you will ever be.

Fawning over them won't help either...makes it worse, actually.

Maybe your view is coloured by the type of girls you associate with? Based on your posts most are working girls and I would assume their perspective of men would differ from the vast majority of girls not associated with the sex trade.

[nysprod]

What complete and utter bull shit...i actually prefer a guy who has experience with a ts girl

Experience perhaps...but don't go near the dick...don't go to parties and don't look at TGirl porn...that's for chasers/fags/perverts.

[nysprod]

Maybe your view is coloured by the type of girls you associate with? Based on your posts most are working girls and I would assume their perspective of men would differ from the vast majority of girls not associated with the sex trade.

Maybe, MAYBE after being with a TGirl for a while, and only if he met her as a straight man, she will want him to try some oral on her...but woe be unto him if she gets the idea he actually likes doing it.

[amberskyi]

Experience perhaps...but don't go near the dick...don't go to parties and don't look at TGirl porn...that's for chasers/fags/perverts.

I'm a bottom but i do enjoy receiving oral,i don't watch ts porn because I'm attracted to men and i don't go to ts parties because its mostly full of clients and i also don't like to limit myself.
Stop with your silly generalizations.

[Bunsdk]

Experience perhaps...but don't go near the dick...don't go to parties and don't look at TGirl porn...that's for chasers/fags/perverts.

Im kind of wondering what that makes you?
Youre a member of a tgirl porn forum. But think badly of others who are there :D

Dont get me wrong, I do think youre a hypocrite.

[nysprod]

I'm a bottom but i do enjoy receiving oral,i don't watch ts porn because I'm attracted to men and i don't go to ts parties because its mostly full of clients and i also don't like to limit myself.
Stop with your silly generalizations.

Right...the men who go to parties are by definition chasers i.e. there are no straight men at parties, and those men you do not want.

Of course, what you girls don't see is the utter dichotomy, which is that no guy is going to stay with a TGirl for any length of time unless he has some level of interest in her dick.

[nysprod]

Im kind of wondering what that makes you?
Youre a member of a tgirl porn forum. But think badly of others who are there :D

Dont get me wrong, I do think youre a hypocrite.

My dear boy, where on earth did you ever get that idea?

[amberskyi]

Right...the men who go to parties are by definition chasers i.e. there are no straight men at parties, and those men you do not want.

Of course, what you girls don't see is the utter dichotomy, which is that no guy is going to stay with a TGirl for any length of time unless he has some level of interest in her dick.

I never called the men not straight...does client now have some other meaning I'm not aware of lol.
Stop trying to put words in my mouth to prove your stupid argument and realize all ts girls aren't the same.
I have no problem with men who are comfortable with my genitalia,i think most ts don't like being wanted just for their penis tho.
You sound very jaded...maybe you should take a break from seeing ts escorts

[nysprod]

I have no problem with men who are comfortable with my genitalia,i think most ts don't like being wanted just for their penis tho.


The fact of the matter is that men like us want a girl with a dick just as other men want a girl with a vagina. Notice I did not say "just" for a dick/vagina.

What's inescapable is that, for better or worse men are very interested in their partner's genitalia, and we're utterly obsessed with our own. It's you girls who need to have a better understanding of this.

[danthepoetman]

It's has nothing to do with what's OK or not, it's just a statement of fact: TGirls in their private lives want straight guys who don't go near their dicks i.e. guys that don't have an interest in TGirls per se, just her...anything else is chaser/fag/pervert.
Is it just me, Nysprod, or do you have an uncanny habit of reformulating what you just said in a different way? It sometimes seem to me you repeat yourself quite a lot, even in answers to people who agree with you...

[amberskyi]

The fact of the matter is that men like us want a girl with a dick just as other men want a girl with a vagina. Notice I did not say "just" for a dick/vagina.

What's inescapable is that, for better or worse men are very interested in their partner's genitalia, and we're utterly obsessed with our own. It's you girls who need to have a better understanding of this.

No one is disagreeing with you so why the soap box homie lmao

[amberskyi]

Is it just me, Nysprod, or do you have an uncanny habit of reformulating what you just said in a different way? It sometimes seem to me you repeat yourself quite a lot, even in answers to people who agree with you...

Lol i feel like some girl must of said something to him so instead of ranting at her he's doing it to us

[dderek123]

No one is disagreeing with you so why the soap box homie lmao

He could just be a contentious sort of person.

[nysprod]

Is it just me, Nysprod, or do you have an uncanny habit of reformulating what you just said in a different way? It sometimes seem to me you repeat yourself quite a lot, even in answers to people who agree with you...

My bad if you agreed...maybe it was your use of the word "banal" that I took the wrong way.

[my my my!]

I'm a bottom but i do enjoy receiving oral,i don't watch ts porn because I'm attracted to men and i don't go to ts parties because its mostly full of clients and i also don't like to limit myself.
Stop with your silly generalizations.

Amber is right.

I was living with a girl for almost 5 years, and the initial and subsequent contact was all male (me) and female (her) typical courtship.

Once we got intimate a few times, I told her that her genitals were only a part of her, which I already loved. I told her it was like caressing her arm, or another part of her. after that , she was at ease and there was never any "omg he's a fag" thing. On the contrary, there was EVEN more respect. She, was proud of the fact that I knew how to treat a woman and absolutely adored her.

It's all about the approach IMO. If You're with her sexually for the first time, and she catches you salivating at the first sight of her genitals, then yea, she might think you're a cockhound/chaser/fag/pervert.

But you have to treat her as woman first. Some foreplay, and be patient, going straight for her genitals is plain stupid.

[dderek123]

Amber is right.

I was living with a girl for almost 5 years, and the initial and subsequent contact was all male (me) and female (her) typical courtship.

Once we got intimate a few times, I told her that her genitals were only a part of her, which I already loved. I told her it was like caressing her arm, or another part of her. after that , she was at ease and there was never any "omg he's a fag" thing. On the contrary, there was EVEN more respect. She, was proud of the fact that I knew how to treat a woman and absolutely adored her.

It's all about the approach IMO. If You're with her sexually for the first time, and she catches you salivating at the first sight of her genitals, then yea, she might think you're a cockhound/chaser/fag/pervert.

But you have to treat her as woman first. Some foreplay, and be patient, going straight for her genitals is plain stupid.
:iagree:

[nysprod]

Amber is right.

I was living with a girl for almost 5 years, and the initial and subsequent contact was all male (me) and female (her) typical courtship.

Once we got intimate a few times, I told her that her genitals were only a part of her, which I already loved. I told her it was like caressing her arm, or another part of her. after that , she was at ease and there was never any "omg he's a fag" thing. On the contrary, there was EVEN more respect. She, was proud of the fact that I knew how to treat a woman and absolutely adored her.

It's all about the approach IMO. If You're with her sexually for the first time, and she catches you salivating at the first sight of her genitals, then yea, she might think you're a cockhound/chaser/fag/pervert.

But you have to treat her as woman first. Some foreplay, and be patient, going straight for her genitals is plain stupid.

So what happened?

[MacShreach]

Amber is right.

I was living with a girl for almost 5 years, and the initial and subsequent contact was all male (me) and female (her) typical courtship.

Once we got intimate a few times, I told her that her genitals were only a part of her, which I already loved. I told her it was like caressing her arm, or another part of her. after that , she was at ease and there was never any "omg he's a fag" thing. On the contrary, there was EVEN more respect. She, was proud of the fact that I knew how to treat a woman and absolutely adored her.

It's all about the approach IMO. If You're with her sexually for the first time, and she catches you salivating at the first sight of her genitals, then yea, she might think you're a cockhound/chaser/fag/pervert.

But you have to treat her as woman first. Some foreplay, and be patient, going straight for her genitals is plain stupid.

Fuck me, a male HA member who gets it. Good for you, and I'm sorry (if I'm reading your post right) that this is past tense.

[MacShreach]

Right...the men who go to parties are by definition chasers i.e. there are no straight men at parties, and those men you do not want.

Of course, what you girls don't see is the utter dichotomy, which is that no guy is going to stay with a TGirl for any length of time unless he has some level of interest in her dick.

I was going to let that pass. I thought, maybe he has a point. But no. It's complete and utter shit, pal, like most of the cynical pap that you appear to think is witty.

Liking a transwoman has to do with more than liking what's between her legs. But then, do you actually know any?

[freak]

Some of you girls need to get off the soap box and act like this doesn't happen. There are many thrill seekers out there that do this flr the rush. I knew a girl that liked going out and picking up a guy in the club and giving them head in the parking lot, I also seen the same girl get punched in the face by a surprised guy when he felt her package. I think this is done more then it is admitted.

Anothier thing done but never admitted to is going to bookstores and adult theaters to have annonomus sex, I have seen tgirls more times then I can remember but if you ask the girls here it never happens. I think it is something they are ashamed of and will not admit.

[freak]

You're like a sassy gay man who always has to be right or he throws a fit. Let it go love.
I was thinking more like a Republican or Tea Bagger, same difference

[BellaBellucci]

I try to keep my secrets to myself. Accordingly, I never tell a man that I'm a libertarian until the third date.

Not. :lol:

#upfrontbitch

~BB~

[my my my!]

So what happened?

We(I) ended it because I was under death threats from her old friends. I was living in mexico at the height of the Drug Violence. and her old good friends, got into the business of drug trafficking or got associated with it and essentially turned into "bad old friends".

The breakup had nothing to do with her being transgendered , or me being with her. It was a tense situation. It was only the last year that got really bad.

I loved her, and kinda still do. But she chose to have those friends in her life, and I called her out on what her friends were doing and she denied them. Then they stole most of our stuff, shot up our house and threatened me. And I told her I didn't want them near or in our house. Really ended bad. We still talk to this day, but just as friends.

[nysprod]

Liking a transwoman has to do with more than liking what's between her legs. But then, do you actually know any?



No, the girl I'm standing there with is my sister...bloody idiot chaser...

[Ms.Stepford]

Here's another vote that this whole 'thinking guys are fags/pervert/chasers for wanting to play with my cock' thing is really silly, and an irresponsible generalization, like it usually is whenever any of you guys post your broad sweeping theories about how we work. None of you know half of what you think about our motivations, based on your biased and self-serving observations.

I've worked long and hard to accept and become comfortable with my body. I know what feels good, and I pursue it. I love when a guy is comfortable with my body too, but I definitely don't want to find myself in a relationship in which I'm gonna have to top all the time (unless, of course, they're paying). Fuck that. My guts need serious routine beatings and I am the little spoon.

Ideally, I'd like the middle road -a man who is secure enough in his masculinity and sexuality not to ignore my cock, because it can provide lots of fun and pleasure for both of us, but still wants to hold me, and daydreams about smushing my asscheeks around in his hands while he hits it.

When I'm in the mood, and I'm not working, bringing home a guy who doesn't want to have anything to do with my cock is...better than not getting laid.

I don't really hang out at gay bars (unless it's Big Ass Drink night at Cathy's, which is always a bad idea) so I'm usually in a room full of straight guys, so should I like, make an announcement? I usually get blackout drunk and wake up in the morning with texts like:


[05/24 4:17AM]Yo, it's Jay. We just met at (a bar). I want to see you as soon as possible. Like tonight. If that's not possible I'll be back in town again Monday night. I can't get the picture of your beautiful body moving to the music and your big beautiful lips moving when you talk to me. I want you so badly...

[05/24 4:21AM] I can't stop thinking about how your body felt pressed against mine......I'm so jealous of your husband tonight....

I don't remember talking to this guy at all, but I mustn't have been that into him if I told him I was married. I don't know why I gave him my number, though, if that's the case.

It's common and non-stop, though. If I were to "warn" these guys before I let them get a bit into me and find out whether or not I'm into them, I'd be constantly talking about my cock all night, and I get enough of that at work.

I just go out with groups of friends, and they look out for my reckless ass.

[Rusty Eldora]

I try to keep my secrets to myself. Accordingly, I never tell a man that I'm a libertarian until the third date.

Not. :lol:

#upfrontbitch

~BB~

Bella - that is a real deal breaker you know. It is dangerous to believe in freedom and the right to choose for yourself. Yes save that for after the Tgirl talk. LOL

Rusty

[PRiNC3SSxKiSS]

I have and it didn't go well...



...at all.

[MacShreach]

No, the girl I'm standing there with is my sister...bloody idiot chaser...
Really? Wow you really got short-changed on the good-looking genes in your family. Sure it wasn't the postman?

[nysprod]

Really? Wow you really got short-changed on the good-looking genes in your family. Sure it wasn't the postman?

I do OK...not the best looking guy in the world, nor the worst...either way, it isn't something I spend any time worrying about.

[broncofan]

I agree with Ms. Stepford's post. I'm not claiming my experience is so vast that I can see past all stereotypes but I've met enough transgender women that I know their interests are fairly varied.

I've met tg's who want to go post-op as soon as they can raise the money.

I met a tg who liked being called by her previous male name because it was sort of a unisex name but she used a more female sounding name for escorting.

I've met several tgs who are exclusively tops and that means they would not be interested in guys who have no interest in penis. And just to ward off the accusations, they were not part-timers or cross-dressers.

I've also met transgender women who are strict bottoms and so for them some of these generalizations might aptly describe THEIR preference. BTW, I've also met strict bottoms who did enjoy being touched there.

Why does this always devolve into a monologue by someone who knows the true and essential nature of all women, both genetic and transgender, and who is so excited to expound upon it? Are we to believe all women want the same thing or that one person's set of preferences mirrors everyone else's?

It sort of reminds me of a friend I have. Every time he hears that a girl is promiscuous he says "See. That's proof women want it just as bad as men." It really makes me wonder about his definition of proof.

[Ananke]

Why don't we just agree that everyone is different and generalizations are always going to offend someone.

[blackshemalelove]

im not trying to take sides, since i dont pay close attention to what certain people previously said, but Franklin was not encouraging instead was just asking girls about their past experiences....And since some of them told their bad experiences, this should red flag it even more doing it....

So Eva i think ure just making a big scene out of nothing, and i dont care if you had previous misunderstandings with him.

As dangerous as it is, some girls will still want to do it either for the fun of it to "surprise" or because of liking a guy too much that they are affraid to loose him....

In any case, dont make it known in any way in front of his friends at a club or something because if he is straight and is known to be so by his friends, even if he had curiosity he will make the biggest scene.....i would do the same but never throw a punch or violence in any way.....but at the same time dont wait until the bedroom to do it as there are some really homophobic people that especially if they are drunk after club or similar can loose their mind and do something bad.....

Best like Stephord said, on your way to somewhere make it known to him only so in case he is curious he will join you, in case he is not lets hope he will act in a normal manner...

Not that im an expert, but thats just my opinion....and i think we all should express our opinion and not be offended because we have one like i read in some cases on this thread.

[MacShreach]

i do ok...not the best looking guy in the world, nor the worst...either way, it isn't something i spend any time worrying about.
rotflmfao

[nysprod]

Starting up with a new TGirl, but this time I'm doing it differently...

Gonna be the 100% straight man TGirls want, which means 100% treating her like the woman she wants to be, which means 100% it's not about her dick.

[gilly1112]

Any more stories?

[STARTUP999]

My own experience is that girls who are not sure if I knew told me before anything physical starts.

I know of a tragic case if Florida where a girl was shot. It was featured on America's most Wanted. I happen to know the actor who played the killer. He said he saw photos of the real victim and she was stunning, better looking than the GG actress who played her.

I also personally had the occasion to look at the driver's license of a lovely Asian girl. When I noticed the sex was male on the DL I asked her if the young hispanic man she was with knew. She said they had been dating for three months and she had not told him yet.

I think most people know that actor who played Danny Partridge infamously was arrested for beating a TG hooker he picked up.

So I guess it must happen but I think its much more common in porn fantasy than real life.