Advice on my book cover..Which one??

[MrsKellyPierce]

I personally like the last one

[youngblood61]

:)
I personally like the last oneI like the first one, I also like the bonus section on anal sex.

[GroobyKrissy]

Last one.

Looks like a Star Trek book! Guys can go where only the privileged have gone before!

Good luck with this venture, Kelly. Awesome to see people with talent stepping out into other ventures.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Thank you!!

That's what I said...I know most men are star trek or star wars nerds lol

[youngblood61]

When does the book come out Kelly?

[martin48]

I'd go for number 4. Bonus chapter! I would have thought essential. When's the DVD available, film , tv series, ...?

[nysprod]

Looks like the read of the summer, no matter which cover you use!

[Jericho]

Is there pictures in it?
(I'm pretty much thinking the anal sex chapter here...That'd be a bonus)!

[MrsKellyPierce]

It will be available late July :) it will be downloadable on Amazon/iBook

Since most men wont want to have a hard copy laying around.

Easier to hide on your phone, kindle, or ipad...

[youngblood61]

It will be available late July :) it will be downloadable on Amazon/iBook

Since most men wont want to have a hard copy laying around.

Easier to hide on your phone, kindle, or ipad...Thanks Kelly!:)

[MrsKellyPierce]

I am also talking to a guy about doing an audio version for lazy readers lol

[Prospero]

Congratulations on your leap into print. Overall i like cover one - but I'm not keen on the typeface used for the "stop chasing" section. Might be good to try using the same type face asthe main title - but in white as you have it. Just a thought.

[GroobyKrissy]

It will be available late July :) it will be downloadable on Amazon/iBook

Since most men wont want to have a hard copy laying around.

Easier to hide on your phone, kindle, or ipad...

Any chance of an advance copy (I'll buy it obviously) so I can read it and help promote the launch on my blogs?

Or, if you could send me an excerpt along with short bio, with permission to use the cover, and a firm release date... love to maybe get you a few more purchasers.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Congratulations on your leap into print. Overall i like cover one - but I'm not keen on the typeface used for the "stop chasing" section. Might be good to try using the same type face asthe main title - but in white as you have it. Just a thought.
Thank you..I definitely love suggestions

[MrsKellyPierce]

Any chance of an advance copy (I'll buy it obviously) so I can read it and help promote the launch on my blogs?

Or, if you could send me an excerpt along with short bio, with permission to use the cover, and a firm release date... love to maybe get you a few more purchasers.
Krissy email me mysecretkelly@gmail.com and as soon as I can I will get it out to you :)

[Prospero]

and if the bulk of the sales is going to be on Kindle etc... then the cover art is very much less important

[GroobyKrissy]

Krissy email me mysecretkelly@gmail.com and as soon as I can I will get it out to you :)

Done, and thanks.

[hemiv8]

I think the last is the best one.

[fab]

My choice is cover 1, followed by 4.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Sorry, pornographic pictures will not be included. I am trying to stray away from the porn world in this book. They are definitely separate entities.

I do touch on being a pornstar, how couldn't I? I touch on it only for the fact of why you should take advice on relationships from a pornstar. I give a timeline into my own dating life and experiences as an introduction. I have been in long-term relationships since I was seventeen, the shortest one was two years. I never really got into casual dating or sex.

I give advice on how and when is the right time to tell anyone about dating a trans-woman. I have met all of my long-term lovers families, friends, and co-workers. I give my top do's and my don'ts on trans-dating. You'll get details on what it is being a trans-woman. My goal is to make men understand our perspective in the book, because I think you are better at dating the more you know about the sex you are interested in!

The book goes into many realms, but I ultimately hope it helps men become better at interacting with us. I am not dumb and realize many men will use the tips to get laid, but if it helps the serious men that get labeled "tranny chasers" unfairly I'll be satisfied! I hope it also gets men as they read to accept themselves more! Accepting yourself is the biggest goal!

I will admit I'm a bit of an analyzer! I use what I learned from my dating and time on forums and chatrooms to write this book. It was always my intention to write it. I feel now that I am 31 I have garnered enough knowledge to share on dating.

This is the first book, the second book will be for transsexuals. So many of my girlfriends get used or put all theireggs in one basket on a hopeless prospect. They also become jaded due to this. I try to touch on why they need to understand the men that date us more.

Not to mention I will also be touching on self-esteem in the book, because many girls are just hateful due to low self-esteem! Then lastly I'll be touching on this pipe dream many transsexuals have on the man they want to date. It's IMAGINARY..I wont go into details on the pipedream. You will have to guess!

I hope that answers your questions Jericho :)

[MrsKellyPierce]

Done, and thanks.
Thanks Krissy :)

[Tate07]

Kelly,

What are your fonts, and how many different styles did you use?

[MrsKellyPierce]

Kelly,

What are your fonts, and how many different styles did you use?
No idea I didn't edit it...a designer is doing it.

[Tate07]

I like 1 the best. Good luck and best wishes on the book :)

[MrsKellyPierce]

I like 1 the best. Good luck and best wishes on the book :)
Thank you love

[GroobyKrissy]

I like 1 the best. Good luck and best wishes on the book :)

Awww...Tate... :) I knew you were good peeps.

I was going to not be happy if you launched into a big critique. Way to be appropriate and keep things positive. :) Thanks :)

[dderek123]

I like the third one the most.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Keep in mind guys these are all rough versions of the cover. Just samples..

If one thinks I should change the font the time is now :)

What font would you suggest?

[GroobyKrissy]

Keep in mind guys these are all rough versions of the cover. Just samples..

If one thinks I should change the font the time is now :)

What font would you suggest?

Personally, I like the Star Trek font look. It really was the first thing that came to mind when I saw cover 4. Recognition is good when it comes to book covers I think... any recognition. The other three, to me look busy and a bit squished.

I really think 4 is golden... a great balance of space.

[MrsKellyPierce]

A preview of the chapter list

Chapter 1: Qualifications?
Chapter 2: Transsexual?
Chapter 3: Offensive?
Chapter 4: Sex For Money?
Chapter 5: Are we desperate?
Chapter 6: How to meet?
Chapter 7: What to say?
Chapter 8: Accept
Chapter 9: Honesty
Chapter 10: Kelly’s Do’s and Don’ts!
Bonus Material: Anal Sex 101

[dderek123]

Sounds great Kelly. Maybe there should be a chapter on Hung Angels??

[Stavros]

I personally like the last one

The contrast between white and pink is not strong enough; you might want to think of a bold colour for the negative, and a warm colour for the positive, pink is a feeble colour that only works when supporting others, white is a neutral colour that never works well on books (unless over a black background), even though this is more of a download than a hard-back edition.

[Tate07]

Awww...Tate... :) I knew you were good peeps.

I was going to not be happy if you launched into a big critique. Way to be appropriate and keep things positive. :) Thanks :)

I thought about it (Evil Grin).

Alas.. I am sure if Kelly wants cover advise she will ask for it :)

[MrsKellyPierce]

I thought about it (Evil Grin).

Alas.. I am sure if Kelly wants cover advise she will ask for it :)
But I was asking for it :)

However I do like pink and hearts - keep that in mind...

I want the book cover to exude me lol

[GroobyKrissy]

I thought about it (Evil Grin).

Alas.. I am sure if Kelly wants cover advise she will ask for it :)

And I knew you were :).

Well, I think the question has been posed now so some constructive criticism isn't out of line at this point.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Front and back cover

[dderek123]

Looks great.

[nysprod]

Front and back cover

Kelly, when you say "learn how to prepare and train yourself for anal sex," are you talking about man on top?

All a guy need remember for that is TGIF.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Kelly, when you say "learn how to prepare and train yourself for anal sex," are you talking about man on top?

All a guy need remember for that is TGIF.
No I am talking about men who want to get it in the butt :)

But I will also have tips for tops on how to hit the prostate and how to make it more enjoyable.

[dderek123]

No I am talking about men who want to get it in the butt :)

But I will also have tips for tops on how to hit the prostate and how to make it more enjoyable.

Good tips indeed.

[TSBootyLondon]

Looks really classy!
Serious question..... Will it be available on download for Kindle/I-pad/tablet? I ask because I read a article a few months ago regarding books and readers etc, that discussed the kind of books people felt more comfortable downloading and concealing from prying eyes!
Fifty Shades of Grey was one book mentioned (to be clear I am not comparing your book to Fifty Shades!), a high percentage of the people asked said that they felt more comfortable reading it on their kindle as they didn't want prying eyes on the under ground as an example knowing what they were reading!
Fifty Shades in my eyes was a very clean, very Mills and Boon!
I can imagine that people with kids would be more compelled to download, I know that apple have very strict polices regarding who they work with for their apps and books etc, not sure about Kindle though.

I myself would be drawn to read your book and books alike as it is important for me in my line of work that I am able to offer valid advice etc to my clients, for my own reasons I would be drawn to download which is why I ask.

xx Bella


Front and back cover

[tsadriana]

The last one Kelly looks good.

[dderek123]

Maybe there should be a section on pick-up lines!

http://resme.me/3uwblw.jpg

[TSBootyLondon]

Forget my question Kelly! I just took time to read the rest of the threads, I see that you have already answered me! ;-)

Over all comments on your cover (The most recently posted picture), classy honey! x




It will be available late July :) it will be downloadable on Amazon/iBook

Since most men wont want to have a hard copy laying around.

Easier to hide on your phone, kindle, or ipad...

[BellaBellucci]

I can't wait to read this, so that I might pen a response. From what you've said on Facebook, I think you're overlooking more-alternative trans women in lieu of stereotyping. I really hope I'm wrong, because done right, a project like this could do a lot to help people understand the variations of gender presentation outside of that portrayed by the Barbie doll types (says a girl with a Barbie-like site logo, but I stand by the principle :lol:)!

~BB~

[Odelay]

I like the "chasing" in smaller font, but then I'm probably just being sensitive to the chaser label. lol :wiggle:

Looks like a timely topic, Kelly, and you seem like a good choice to deliver it. When you get to promotion stage, make sure you hit up Dan Savage. As a sex/dating advise columnist, this is right in his target area. I've always found his advise to be trans friendly, and I'm guessing he'd be amenable to promoting a real live trans author.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Bella you nit/pick

Those comments were pre-fixed with many/a lot of trans-women, not to mention examples of who many girls look to CIS or trans!

To say that many girls don't go for the Barbie doll, playboesque, exotic, and oozing sex look would be denial!

No where did I say at anytime, all Trans women are like this or want that look

You took issue because I didn't mention girls who go for the 50's pin up look or the least sexually appealing as possible look. Which many girls strive for to not be made a "mockery" or give into the male appetite!

So don't think I once generalized...

I was giving examples of why many trans-women come off vain to the outside looking in.

The status messages were in response to men saying trans-women are vain creatures, and another man that was asking why this way too hot transsexual for him wasn't interested in him.

Because many men think if you are transsexual no matter what they look like you will be desperate enough to go for it.

That's what the status messages had to do with, not generalization, examples of what MOST men see from transsexuals.

Most men see over-sexed, barbiesque girls through their outlet "porn"..so that's why I went with that example.

[Castor_Troy05]

Of the 4 I guess the last one. Your picture should be on the front though, more eye catching than tucked away at the back. Also not entirely keen in the fonts, but I'll probably get this anyway

[BellaBellucci]

Bella you nit/pick

... and you can't take legitimate, constructive criticism! Never could! :lol:


To say that many girls don't go for the Barbie doll, playboesque, exotic, and oozing sex look would be denial!

To imply that they all do, or that girls that do outnumber other types of girls by such a margin that other types of girls aren't worth being mentioned are also indications of denial. :geek:


No where did I say at anytime, all Trans women are like this or want that look

I never did. But you clearly place so much importance on them that the others don't seem to exist in your world, and therefore your dating book. Are you saying that the rest of us aren't worth dating? :?


You took issue because I didn't mention girls who go for the 50's pin up look or the least sexually appealing as possible look. Which many girls strive for to not be made a "mockery" or give into the male appetite!

What's wrong with retro looks? I resemble that remark and you know it! :lol:

I also dress for me, and not for anyone else, the least of all a man.


So don't think I once generalized I was giving examples of why many trans-women come off vain to the outside looking in.

Yes, many. Not all. I'm glad we have that clear.


Because many men think if you are transsexual no matter what they look like you will be desperate enough to go for it.

Amen on that, sister. No argument here.

~BB~

[MrsKellyPierce]

I re-edited my response after I got back on my laptop

[MrsKellyPierce]

No my book is about all trans-women in those status messages I focused on what men mostly see from transsexuals. Men can be very docile creatures if you don't give the obvious example, they wont get it. I would rather my status messages be understood by many than just the "smart" men.

There is nothing wrong with your look, I personally love when you have bangs! It looks very Betty Paige.

[BellaBellucci]

No my book is about all trans-women in those status messages I focused on what men mostly see from transsexuals. Men can be very docile creatures if you don't give the obvious example, they wont get it.

I think you mean 'oblivious?'

And yes, yes they are. Subtlety is not a male strong-suit. They often need things spelled out for them.

~BB~

[MrsKellyPierce]

Actually I meant deficient, but I'm on my iPhone getting easer for cam

Ready!!

Grr I swear as iPhone goes on spellcheck feed gets worse!

[MrsKellyPierce]

By the way I'll be on kellysdreamhouse, charurbate, & cam4 tonight

[BellaBellucci]

Actually I meant deficient

Yup. That too. :lol:


There is nothing wrong with your look, I personally love when you have bangs! It looks very Betty Paige.

Thank you. That's sweet. Honestly, I was just messing with you. :whistle:

~BB~

[MrsKellyPierce]

Has anyone else been having issues w/ firefox I need it for camming I usually use both chrome and firefox so I can double cam lol

but it keeps saying my shockwave stopped working after a few hours

[nysprod]

I can't wait to read this, so that I might pen a response. From what you've said on Facebook, I think you're overlooking more-alternative trans women in lieu of stereotyping. I really hope I'm wrong, because done right, a project like this could do a lot to help people understand the variations of gender presentation outside of that portrayed by the Barbie doll types (says a girl with a Barbie-like site logo, but I stand by the principle :lol:)!

~BB~

Bella, you took a dig at Kelly with that "Barbie Doll" reference...which is ridiculous because anyone who has been around Kelly, if even just from a distance as I have, immediately recognizes her smarts.


By the way I'll be on kellysdreamhouse, charurbate, & cam4 tonight

If I were to tell Kelly what I'd like to see her do on cam, I can't even imagine what she'd think. But I doubt she's ever heard a request like the one I would make...lol

[BellaBellucci]

Bella, you took a dig at Kelly with that "Barbie Doll" reference...which is ridiculous because anyone who has been around Kelly, if even just from a distance as I have, immediately recognizes her smarts.

Dafuq? We're talking about the type of trans women being discussed in her book. Who said anything about her personally? Stop stirring the pot.

~BB~

[nysprod]

Dafuq? We're talking about the type of trans women being discussed in her book. Who said anything about her personally? Stop stirring the pot.

~BB~

Perhaps I'm a bit bit sensitized after your episode with Lexi, but OK.

[BellaBellucci]

Perhaps I'm a bit bit sensitized after your episode with Lexi, but OK.

Kelly and I have our differences, but we're far from enemies. Lexi, on the other hand, deserves all of the bile I spit at her and then some. That helium-filled head of hers needs to stop floating around in the stratosphere. :whistle:

~BB~

[nysprod]

Kelly and I have our differences, but we're far from enemies. Lexi, on the other hand, deserves all of the bile I spit at her and then some. That helium-filled head of hers needs to stop floating around in the stratosphere. :whistle:

~BB~

See, you took her little TMZ thing as bragging when it reality, she was just happy about it...but you did manage to make her feel miserable so mission accomplished, I guess...

[BellaBellucci]

See, you took her little TMZ thing as bragging when it reality, she was just happy about it

No, I take her entire attitude as bragging. She's really quite full of herself.


...but you did manage to make her feel miserable so mission accomplished, I guess...

I'm not going to brag about it, lest I be a hypocrite. But damn if I'm not tempted.

Like I always say (and nobody believes it): if I don't like you, you'll know it. :lol:

~BB~

[Jimmy W]

You're so pretty Kelly, why aren't you on the cover?

[serial138]

A preview of the chapter list

Chapter 1: Qualifications?
Chapter 2: Transsexual?
Chapter 3: Offensive?
Chapter 4: Sex For Money?
Chapter 5: Are we desperate?
Chapter 6: How to meet?
Chapter 7: What to say?
Chapter 8: Accept
Chapter 9: Honesty
Chapter 10: Kelly’s Do’s and Don’ts!
Bonus Material: Anal Sex 101

Sure you don't want to include a chapter called "Am I Gay?"

Your book is going to cause a crush of thread posts on this forum when it comes out!

J/K, in all seriousness, I like 4. Looks less busy than the rest to me. Maybe the Star Trek font catches my eye as a sci-fi nerd...

[Ben]

I personally like the last one

Kinda prefer the first one.

[nysprod]

See, you took her little TMZ thing as bragging when it reality, she was just happy about it...but you did manage to make her feel miserable so mission accomplished, I guess...


No, I take her entire attitude as bragging. She's really quite full of herself.

Nah, she was just happy about it...and it so bothered you that someone else was feeling good about something, just just had to piss on it.


but you did manage to make her feel miserable so mission accomplished, I guess...


I'm not going to brag about it, lest I be a hypocrite. But damn if I'm not tempted. Like I always say (and nobody believes it): if I don't like you, you'll know it. :lol:

~BB~

What I totally believe, is that your fucked up as a person.

[BellaBellucci]

What I totally believe, is that your fucked up as a person.

Perhaps I am.

~BB~

[nysprod]

Perhaps I am.

~BB~

Well, that's good...the first step in fixing a problem is admitting that you have one...not that I don't have any...

[BellaBellucci]

Well, that's good...the first step in fixing a problem is admitting that you have one...not that I don't have any...

Who said anything about 'fixing?' :lol:

~BB~

[NHG]

Kelly-- I like the second or last one. But the truth of the matter is that the final choice is yours to make-- and your responsibility. You have had good practice making good choices. Look at you now! You will make a good choice. Go ahead and make it. <3

[NHG]

What I said before still goes, but I didn't read the whole thread. (I still haven't read it all, but have a better idea of what you want.)

Go with the 4th (the one you like) but shade the background behind the white lettering more. Maybe to 60%darker blue. You can't make the white words in the same font as the pink (which works because of the subject matter-- your femininity) because the words won't fit in the space you want them in. "Stop Chasing" isn't as important as "Start Dating" but is more important than #1 implies. I do prefer the statement "Real advice from an actual Trans-Woman" in two lines as #1 has it.

Is "Trans-Woman" YOUR preferred term for the lovely woman you are? If not, use the term YOU prefer, not what anyone else tells you to use.

I don't like the dark line behind the word "Start."

Can the shaded pattern behind the lower half be stretched to fill the full page? And adjust the darkness as needed for contrast behind the lettering of the title?

I like the graphic. It suggests that the possibility of finding love without actually mentioning that "dirty" word.

3-color printing (red/blue/black) is much cheaper than full-color printing-- in the print world. Electronic books don't have that limitation. If the book is not going to be published on paper, go for color!

Kelly, love-- I'm not telling you what to do, I'm only making suggestions to help you find the best cover for your book.

[Dark Adventurer]

Being a publisher who creates all his products' covers, my opinion is the lower left hand cover. It's easiest to read at a glance and it best fits the Fibonacci Golden Mean spiral rule of thumb.

[Rabbiteyes]

I liked the third one (last in the top row).

You first get the "stop chasing", which is more of an attention grabber, makes you think "what am i chasing?! I shouldn't be chasing it?? " and then "start dating" ...and then you keep reading and are like "ooooooooohhhhhh transwomennnnn".

And then you giggle and point it to your friend for a laugh. But he kind of looks away shyly or doesn't laugh as hard. And then you pause, and realize he is a chaser!! And then you buy it for him as a gift for his birthday a few months later as a joke / but not a joke gift.

[Rabbiteyes]

Actually, since your target is men... you might want to go with a less feminine design. Right now the giant gender symbols might be kind of embarrassing (and the overall feel is similar to romance novels that women read).

I would think that would keep a LOT of guys from having that sitting around their house so openly. (especially closeted or insecure guys, and lets face it...LOTSSS of chasers are crazy insecure about it)

[Cecil Rhodes]

I would put GROWERS NOT SHOWERS ARE BEST on the cover .

[GroobySteven]

I'm not being shady Kelly - I don't like any of them - the fonts/text/colors are all hard to read in one go.

in my opinion, the "Start Dating" part is fine - the "Stop Chasing" fonts are wrong on all.

[Prospero]

I'm not being shady Kelly - I don't like any of them - the fonts/text/colors are all hard to read in one go.

in my opinion, the "Start Dating" part is fine - the "Stop Chasing" fonts are wrong on all.
:iagree::iagree:

that was what i said yesterday i think

[nysprod]

Who said anything about 'fixing?' :lol:

~BB~

If you don't want to fix yourself that's your business...but if you come here acting like a bitch to someone for no damn reason, expect to be called out on your shit.

[BellaBellucci]

If you don't want to fix yourself that's your business...but if you come here acting like a bitch to someone for no damn reason, expect to be called out on your shit.

I don't want to fix myself because I'm not broken. I actually do have my reasons. Your understanding of them is not necessary, to be honest. We're never going to agree here, so can we please drop it? I'm not the one who brought it up.

I do appreciate your protective instinct and what you're trying to do here though. More men should have that. I just think it's misplaced.

~BB~

[giovanni_hotel]

Sure you don't want to include a chapter called "Am I Gay?"

Your book is going to cause a crush of thread posts on this forum when it comes out!

J/K, in all seriousness, I like 4. Looks less busy than the rest to me. Maybe the Star Trek font catches my eye as a sci-fi nerd...

You definitely need an 'Am I Gay' chapter.:whistle: