Porn conniosseurs...I want to ask you something.

[mac.B]

As some of you know, I am in the [very] early stages of creating a tgirl porn site. The concept is simple enough to be widely appreciated and at the same time rare enough to, I think, constitute success. Although I do believe in the sites concept I'm still asking you, the tgirl porn connoisseurs, what it is that you would like to see in an all new site.

If you could see anything at all that you havent seen or want to see more of in a site please voice your opinions here. It could be anything fron locations, scenarios, styles of sex, formatting concerns, moe interaction...anything.


I really only have one shot at this. I have some money but I'm not rich nor am I connected to anyone or anything that is. However I do respect the art and want to do right by it. I believe in my vision 100% and with your input I'd like to help usher in a new era of tgirl porn. An era that will be grounded in creativity, will show proper respect to the art and the women as well as value the individual consumers, patrons and connoisseurs. Not to slight any of the sites or companies that came before. I respect those who opened the doors for this niche.


For all of those who provide a voice I thank you in advance.

[Corran]

More interaction, such as talking and kissing during sex. That's something a lot of porn suffers, it's just insert penis into ass, thrust...repeat. Show us some passion, dammit!
Also a lot of current TS sites feature far too many solo scenes..if the girl is hot that's cool, but they get kind of...repetitive.

[Colin92660]

More interaction, such as talking and kissing during sex. That's something a lot of porn suffers, it's just insert penis into ass, thrust...repeat. Show us some passion, dammit!
Also a lot of current TS sites feature far too many solo scenes..if the girl is hot that's cool, but they get kind of...repetitive.

totaly agree. also placing a focus on natural beauty over bolt on boobs would be nice.

[mac.B]

I agree also. One of my fav scenes of all time was a passionate one. Not a lot of talking in it but I still get your point. There seems to be a big market for solo. I'm not really a fan of them but I understand the concept of eating your own cake. Thanks guys.

[bluesoul]

do i get paid if i provide input?

[EvaCassini]

hahahah bluesoul, you are silly :)

[Rabbiteyes]

Better "classier" production value.

Right now a lot of porn looks really cheap (even the branding and text). It is overdone and really fake (and pretty sleezy , like the classic "old couch" and stuff).

I think porn can go a LOT more classy direction with some post-work or stronger production setup (playing with saturation, contrast, color adjustments and of course strong lighting work).

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwbutkIjQ11qzznhro1_500.jpg

Basically, right now porn seems to be in the "movie theatre" stage. Sticky seats, everyone hiding their face, in and out and don't want to be seen.

I think by "classing it up" a bit (like others said, more passion and things like that), it would start to capture more of the female market (which is actually rather large)....but it would also make the porn easier to monetize (if it is classier and more approachable, people won't have as much of an issue with paying for it....and it doesn't even need to be straight porn sales, you can merchandise around erotic art ~something people would be MUCH more likely to purchase than just a crotch shot or something~).

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvms7aMrpj1r609pno1_500.jpg

There is a lot of room to diversify porn beyond what is being marketed today. Sexy comes in a lot more varieties than this (bottom image) ~_~ It is so overdone that it becomes distractingly "porn"... it seems to be self limiting and keeps the industry from really exploring the range of erotic fantasy.

http://www.worldoffemale.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Most-famous-porn-stars07.jpg

[Corran]

Rabbiteyes, excuse me if I'm out of line or anything, but you are gorgeous..very attractive.

[Rabbiteyes]

Thanks corran :)

~just gonna leave this here~

A little change of camera angle and lighting with a little attention to the setup = awesome

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lub7xx1uDh1qf0gljo1_500.gif

[mac.B]

Better "classier" production value.

Right now a lot of porn looks really cheap (even the branding and text). It is overdone and really fake (and pretty sleezy , like the classic "old couch" and stuff).

I think porn can go a LOT more classy direction with some post-work or stronger production setup (playing with saturation, contrast, color adjustments and of course strong lighting work).

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwbutkIjQ11qzznhro1_500.jpg

Basically, right now porn seems to be in the "movie theatre" stage. Sticky seats, everyone hiding their face, in and out and don't want to be seen.

I think by "classing it up" a bit (like others said, more passion and things like that), it would start to capture more of the female market (which is actually rather large)....but it would also make the porn easier to monetize (if it is classier and more approachable, people won't have as much of an issue with paying for it....and it doesn't even need to be straight porn sales, you can merchandise around erotic art ~something people would be MUCH more likely to purchase than just a crotch shot or something~).

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvms7aMrpj1r609pno1_500.jpg

There is a lot of room to diversify porn beyond what is being marketed today. Sexy comes in a lot more varieties than this (bottom image) ~_~ It is so overdone that it becomes distractingly "porn"... it seems to be self limiting and keeps the industry from really exploring the range of erotic fantasy.

http://www.worldoffemale.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Most-famous-porn-stars07.jpg


Youve touched on some things that I've considered although the "classy" approach is a new one. It can be done though. In fact I just had an idea of how to incorporate that in to a site that features the word "raw" (not bareback) in the title.

The female market is tricky though. It'll be fun trying to figure out how I could appeal to them. It seems hard considering the fact that all females I've met were absolutely repulsed by tgirls. However, I do enjoy the challenge of making certain pieces fit. Thanks for the input luv.

[danthepoetman]

Very good advices from everybody! But Mac, I'm wondering, if you only have limited resources, if you shouldn't on the contrary, follow well-tried recipes rather than try something new. I'm thinking, instead of trying to be creative, go full force with the stuff you know will work and, when it gets to be a bit easier, start trying for more creativity. I don't know what niche you're fitting in, but in business, your first target should be money. After you make some, you can think about originality.
:2cent

[mac.B]

Very good advices from everybody! But Mac, I'm wondering, if you only have limited resources, if you shouldn't on the contrary, follow well-tried recipes rather than try something new. I'm thinking, instead of trying to be creative, go full force with the stuff you know will work and, when it gets to be a bit easier, start trying for more creativity. I don't know what niche you're fitting in, but in business, your first target should be money. After you make some, you can think about originality.
:2cent


Thats the beauty. I got the idea for this site after hearing similar complaints from many consumers. I have seen sites similar to what I'm doing but they all fell short of what they could be despite their successes and longevity. I'm simply adding on to and combining already successful concepts in porn while providing certain things that many consumers, myself included, really want in a porn site. :)

[Christastic]

Kink.com has some great production values.

[Rabbiteyes]

I don't know what niche you're fitting in, but in business, your first target should be money. After you make some, you can think about originality.
:2cent

That isn't exactly true. Differentiation in a saturated market is number 1. There is a LOOOOTTT of porn out there. Companies far more established with porn website chains and click-through monetization strategies over a large area (lots of websites, all interlinked).

Basically, someone just making a random porn site is going to have to cut through a lot of noise to gain any type of following (just putting naked pictures on the internet doesn't mean much, you need to think about how to monetize the product beyond click through ~this is more a function of economies of scale... with low traffic you can't really rely on ad revenues since you aren't dealing in those types of numbers~).

So, you have to aim for something new that will be easier to market (much easier to cut through noise with "new" than it is for something already done everywhere).

You need to think of the entire service beyond just the porn also... branch out and try to offer supplemental products / services that feed off the core product / website (giving you room to grow and diversifying your revenue sources).

If you seriously want to do it, there are a lot of opportunities (researching some foreign porn might also be a good option...since there are some big differences. Japanese porn often has a heavy entertainment lean to it.... watch some hentais and you will think you are just watching some random anime... until the tentacle scene pops up :P Or some of their game shows are heavily sexualized).

[amberskyi]

Youve touched on some things that I've considered although the "classy" approach is a new one. It can be done though. In fact I just had an idea of how to incorporate that in to a site that features the word "raw" (not bareback) in the title.

The female market is tricky though. It'll be fun trying to figure out how I could appeal to them. It seems hard considering the fact that all females I've met were absolutely repulsed by tgirls. However, I do enjoy the challenge of making certain pieces fit. Thanks for the input luv.

That's funny cause i think i know more tgirl/gg couples than i do tgirl/men couples

[robertlouis]

That's funny cause i think i know more tgirl/gg couples than i do tgirl/men couples

That's an interesting observation Amber. Any other thoughts on the subject?

[youngblood61]

Make sure you have enough content!:)

[danthepoetman]

That isn't exactly true. Differentiation in a saturated market is number 1. There is a LOOOOTTT of porn out there. Companies far more established with porn website chains and click-through monetization strategies over a large area (lots of websites, all interlinked).

Basically, someone just making a random porn site is going to have to cut through a lot of noise to gain any type of following (just putting naked pictures on the internet doesn't mean much, you need to think about how to monetize the product beyond click through ~this is more a function of economies of scale... with low traffic you can't really rely on ad revenues since you aren't dealing in those types of numbers~).

So, you have to aim for something new that will be easier to market (much easier to cut through noise with "new" than it is for something already done everywhere).

You need to think of the entire service beyond just the porn also... branch out and try to offer supplemental products / services that feed off the core product / website (giving you room to grow and diversifying your revenue sources).

If you seriously want to do it, there are a lot of opportunities (researching some foreign porn might also be a good option...since there are some big differences. Japanese porn often has a heavy entertainment lean to it.... watch some hentais and you will think you are just watching some random anime... until the tentacle scene pops up :P Or some of their game shows are heavily sexualized).
RabbitEyes, you're so bright! But that's carrying a general statement in a whole lot of particulars.

[rockabilly]

It's funny but now i have a trans version of " Boogie Nights " playing in my head and Mac B is like Burt Reynoldss character , wanting to make a sexy , erotic porn film ... " This is the one I'll be remembered for. "

Good luck to you bro it's a tough business to break into and even harder to break even with your initial investment.

[MacShreach]

One little plea? Make the guys take their socks off? Please?

[robertlouis]

One little plea? Make the guys take their socks off? Please?

:iagree: 150%.

[Rabbiteyes]

RabbitEyes, you're so bright! But that's carrying a general statement in a whole lot of particulars.

<3 Well, a more careful assessment would take a lot more effort :P

And, of course, I suggest research! ~watches porn~ come study with me <3

[danthepoetman]

<3 Well, a more careful assessment would take a lot more effort :P

And, of course, I suggest research! ~watches porn~ come study with me <3
Mmmmmmm! what a charming suggestion!! :kiss:

[mac.B]

That's funny cause i think i know more tgirl/gg couples than i do tgirl/men couples


Has anyone ever told you that you sound incredibly sensitive and seem easily affected all the time? I was talking about "heterosexual" women. Youre talking about studs or dykes. Do I even need to list the differences? Chill out were all friends here.:)

[amberskyi]

Has anyone ever told you that you sound incredibly sensitive and seem easily affected all the time? I was talking about "heterosexual" women. Youre talking about studs or dykes. Do I even need to list the differences? Chill out were all friends here.:)

Lol I'm not mad homie,i was making a statement.maybe your the one who should chill *shrugs

[mac.B]

That isn't exactly true. Differentiation in a saturated market is number 1. There is a LOOOOTTT of porn out there. Companies far more established with porn website chains and click-through monetization strategies over a large area (lots of websites, all interlinked).

Basically, someone just making a random porn site is going to have to cut through a lot of noise to gain any type of following (just putting naked pictures on the internet doesn't mean much, you need to think about how to monetize the product beyond click through ~this is more a function of economies of scale... with low traffic you can't really rely on ad revenues since you aren't dealing in those types of numbers~).

So, you have to aim for something new that will be easier to market (much easier to cut through noise with "new" than it is for something already done everywhere).

You need to think of the entire service beyond just the porn also... branch out and try to offer supplemental products / services that feed off the core product / website (giving you room to grow and diversifying your revenue sources).

If you seriously want to do it, there are a lot of opportunities (researching some foreign porn might also be a good option...since there are some big differences. Japanese porn often has a heavy entertainment lean to it.... watch some hentais and you will think you are just watching some random anime... until the tentacle scene pops up :P Or some of their game shows are heavily sexualized).

Thanks for the input. I watch porn from all over although I have to admit that japanese porn never really caught me. What hentai do you suggest that I watch? I dont know much about that.

But I do get your overall point and honestly i want my site to be known for its diversity and versatility.Since there are few sites that offer the combination of things that mine will I think my biggest challenge outside of funding will be (obviously) marketing. I can forget about advertising via hungangels.com threads for obvious reasons. All and all I look at this challenge through rose colored frames.

[fordly66]

Of course I would like to see more post-op trans women. Not sure how mainstream or popular that would be. And not sure most would sign up for you to make money. Anyway, I'd like to see, you know, one a month at least.

[Genetic]

T-girls urinating on squids = $$$$$$$$

[Rabbiteyes]

What hentai do you suggest that I watch?

F3 (hentai) was really funny :3 Bonus, i think i remember trannies in there! (well demon ones).

[nysprod]

As some of you know, I am in the [very] early stages of creating a tgirl porn site. The concept is simple enough to be widely appreciated and at the same time rare enough to, I think, constitute success. Although I do believe in the sites concept I'm still asking you, the tgirl porn connoisseurs, what it is that you would like to see in an all new site.

If you could see anything at all that you havent seen or want to see more of in a site please voice your opinions here. It could be anything fron locations, scenarios, styles of sex, formatting concerns, moe interaction...anything.


I really only have one shot at this. I have some money but I'm not rich nor am I connected to anyone or anything that is. However I do respect the art and want to do right by it. I believe in my vision 100% and with your input I'd like to help usher in a new era of tgirl porn. An era that will be grounded in creativity, will show proper respect to the art and the women as well as value the individual consumers, patrons and connoisseurs. Not to slight any of the sites or companies that came before. I respect those who opened the doors for this niche.


For all of those who provide a voice I thank you in advance.

First thing: Do you have girls who will shoot for you?

[mac.B]

First thing: Do you have girls who will shoot for you?


I dont know why that would be the first thing that I would have. Who would shoot for me at this stage? How about I continue to plan, then build my foundation, then find talent. Its most definitely a process kind sir. But thank you for your input.

[EZWind]

.... something a lot of porn suffers, it's just insert penis into ass, thrust... but they get kind of...repetitive.
Amen to that. I've been watching porn for mumblety mumble years since the (appropriately enough) Johnson administration. Frankly, at this point, it's ALL pretty much repetitive. But, when it's done right ya can't beat it

[EZWind]

...I'd like to help usher in a new era of tgirl porn. An era that will be grounded in creativity, will show proper respect to the art and the women as well as value the individual consumers, ...
Best of luck to ya, my friend....it would be welcome.
My 2 cents vis a vis the proper respect to the art aspect...please pay attention to the soundtrack. If you're filming outdoors, get the neighbor's kid to take the dog for a walk....wait for the guy running the leafblower to finish before you start, etc. Be as far away from the airport as you can. Indoors, if you have to give off camera direction, take a few minutes in post to edit yourself out, it's easy...I can even do it w/ my little Sony Vegas program.
Music...the best thing in the whole world ever....but quite often the worst thing in porn.Actually, that's more true of straight porn...but the point being, background music should be just that...in the background, not drowning out the sweet nothings from the girls

[rasta]

Andrew blake with tgirls. And i agree with the first response. Passion. Kissing. Tension

[Jamie French]

NOOOO, dude feet are GROSS. Why would you want to see that?


One little plea? Make the guys take their socks off? Please?

[EZWind]

NOOOO, dude feet are GROSS. Why would you want to see that?
Right on, Jamie....I don't even like to look at my own, never mind some other dude's

[alyssaluxor]

From a TS girls view

Possible to see more hot guys in TS porn? The reason why I dont watch TS porn is I rarely seen hot guys fucking with TS girls. And also possible to show the guys face when he is cumming not just his cock? I just go to gay and straight porn instead

[Willie Escalade]

Best of luck to ya, my friend....it would be welcome.
My 2 cents vis a vis the proper respect to the art aspect...please pay attention to the soundtrack. If you're filming outdoors, get the neighbor's kid to take the dog for a walk....wait for the guy running the leafblower to finish before you start, etc. Be as far away from the airport as you can. Indoors, if you have to give off camera direction, take a few minutes in post to edit yourself out, it's easy...I can even do it w/ my little Sony Vegas program.
Music...the best thing in the whole world ever....but quite often the worst thing in porn.Actually, that's more true of straight porn...but the point being, background music should be just that...in the background, not drowning out the sweet nothings from the girls
On most occasions I'd agree with this...but if you're shooting a scene and you want some realism, you can't beat those natural sounds.


Andrew blake with tgirls. And i agree with the first response. Passion. Kissing. Tension
Yes! I LOVE his work. Even though a lot of it is softcore, it's still very erotic.

Again, speaking of soundtracks, Mr. Blake has some of the best music in his scenes (if you like jazz)...

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T4P3q5lboIM

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=062eYe24PtQ

[danthepoetman]

NOOOO, dude feet are GROSS. Why would you want to see that?
:iagree:
Jamie does have a point, here!

[nysprod]

I dont know why that would be the first thing that I would have. Who would shoot for me at this stage? How about I continue to plan, then build my foundation, then find talent. Its most definitely a process kind sir. But thank you for your input.

Good ts talent is very difficult to find.

[robertlouis]

NOOOO, dude feet are GROSS. Why would you want to see that?

But socks are even more gross. They just make the whole thing look seedy.

[EZWind]

On most occasions I'd agree with this...but if you're shooting a scene and you want some realism, you can't beat those natural sounds.


Nothing against realism...a little birdsong, a babbling brook, fine, the keyword being natural. It's a pet peeve of mine I probly get a little carried away sniveling about. Mia Isabella did a SMStrkr shoot where she's talking to me but I can't hear a word cuz some clown is blowin leaves in the yard. Another w/ Vicki Richter in the woods, surrounded by dead leaves evidently, cuz it sounds like the cameraman is walking around on a bed of Doritos. Very distracting and annoying and it ruins an otherwise extremely hot scene. That's what I meant by pay attention. Then there's the Silvera Syndrome...an otherwise excellent videographer w/ the annoying habit of injecting himself into the scene. I don't need to hear him saying "yeah" a hundred times or oo ooo good girls! or okay, here we go! And the disembodied hand groping in from the edge of the frame to squeeze a cheek or tweak a nipple....get outta town w/ that shit. Just frosts my flakes. I could go on, but I shouldn't... feel better now...end of venting rant

[Willie Escalade]

I feel you about the director chiming in...that kills the "realism"...

A leaf blower? I've gotta see that scene again!

[EZWind]

A leaf blower? I've gotta see that scene again!

Might be wrong about it being SMStrkrs...couldn't find a link for ya on their site...but it was definitely Mia