How successful is the average trans escort?

[MyJimminies]

Hi forum! First post here.
I'm wondering because all the trans escort pages I see online have very few reviews compared to their cis girl counterparts. This is especially apparent if you visit adultwork. So they either don't have that many clients or their clients are just extremely shy. What do you guys think? Would be cool if I could get some figures and statistics to.

[LibertyHarkness]

basically most of hte people that visit ts escorts dont want people knowing they do so .. its the same with webcamming ..

[Prospero]

Although London now has certainly well over 100 transgendered escorts I suspect it is still a minority interest compared with GG hookers

[nysprod]

Although London now has certainly well over 100 transgendered escorts I suspect it is still a minority interest compared with GG hookers

Would you say that's a larger number compared to say 5 years ago, or less?

[Prospero]

More.....

[LexusFire]

Definitely more than 5 years ago, i remember how difficult it was to find the girls then.
Well, ones that i liked! I remember how ALT was my source back then :)

[Rusty Eldora]

In Seattle, Eros has around 100 to 120 GG escorts and around 12 TS escorts. There is a big review board here TNAboard.com. I started a follow on thread to one that had been there for a while on March 22nd. Today it has 128 posts, probably 30 by me. Not much by that board standard, but it has had 18,325 view. The memorial day weekend in 2 days there were over 2,000 views.

This board had almost 100 GG reviews posted today for Seattle along, there are around a dozen TS reviews on the board in the last year, maybe 1 before that. In that thread I started a "service" where I will relay anon 411 from people on the board that don't want their handle associated with TS. About 5 of us have unique handles for our TS posts, keeping our other handle for GG. I'm probably the most "out there" poster on it, and interestingly I have gotten very little flak.

Guys with 5,000+ posts have PM'd me with questions, possibly ready to take the dive, but I doubt they will ever post a "I enjoyed Nikki today, will repeat".

I would guess that the TS market is 3 or 4% of the GG market here, but it is very underground as to reviews. TER seems to have had them for a long time, they have the ability to post using an Alt handle (at least the review is under the handle)

[amberskyi]

People don't want an anonymous online screen name associated with ts on a prostitute review board?? How more closeted can you get lmaoooo

[wiltthestilt]

In my experience TS's on eros seem to charge more on average than gg's. I'm not quite sure why that is. Maybe because they are more likely to work in NYC as opposed to NJ, or maybe they have to charge more to compensate for fewer appointments, or maybe it is because anal is more physically taxing than vaginal sex, or maybe it is just supply and demand. I don't know without knowing their situation.

There are some regulars in NYC but I haven't been pleased with the selection. There are always many girls with no reviews, or poor reviews, or at best mixed reviews. GFE is rarely included, and prices are often over $400 for an hour. I was in California recently and much to my surprise, the first 4 or 5 girls I checked out had established reputations with many positive reviews and GFE service included. I had a great appointment with first girl I called. I paid $$$ but still that's better than the going rate I've seen on EROS for a similar service (GFE, two pops, and anal included).

I guess that doesn't really go to the original question. I will say that the few TS's I have seen have lived in very nice apartments or houses--nicer than I have lived in--and it was clear that they did live in those places, as I noticed school books and other personal items scattered about.

[wiltthestilt]

People don't want an anonymous online screen name associated with ts on a prostitute review board?? How more closeted can you get lmaoooo

Yeah, it's amazing. I've been checking guys profiles. You have guys who review all TS's and then guys who review all gg's and no TS's. You have some guys with both, but it seems that the field is very stratified. My guess is that the TS only guys basically joined the hobby just to live out their TS fantasies, whereas the GG only guys with 100 + reviews are more likely to keep their TS encounters to themselves since they worry their online identity will lose credibility.

[amberskyi]

It's a fake online identity...who cares.people are way weird.i swear some just have no balls what so ever

[zardoz_2008]

TG girls almost never care if you see a GG. Genetic Girls can be just as homophobic as any jock you've ever met and won't see a guy if he has reviews of TG girls. So when you try to build up your rep and references that does play a factor.

[steeveX]

People don't want an anonymous online screen name associated with ts on a prostitute review board?? How more closeted can you get lmaoooo

Yeah, guess what. Genetic female hoes will very likely consider a john who also fucks TS's a disease ridden freak/fag and whatnot.

And anonymous screen names are often not so anonymous after all. People find out who this and that screenname belongs to every now and then.

If you review TS and GG hoes on a mixed adult entertainment board using the same screen name, you will get bombed in the straight section. The mainstream culture shits on TS's and the "admirers" even when it comes to the sex trade.

[Ms.Stepford]

We get work. I don't have a bunch of reviews, but I live very comfortably. My bills are always paid and my vices are satisfied.

[LexusFire]

We get work. I don't have a bunch of reviews, but I live very comfortably. My bills are always paid and my vices are satisfied.

Amen :)

[Prospero]

Since I stand no chance of seeing you in the foreseeable future because of geography Ms Stepford, (sigh) I will make up a review for you if you like? I'll be sure to label it fake though...lol

[KatherineRusTS]

We get work. I don't have a bunch of reviews, but I live very comfortably. My bills are always paid and my vices are satisfied.

Honestly, it all depends on the request of the person ) I don't have enough money that I have now . Given the fact that there are many nuances : a mortgage , the Payment of the Institute of the rental of the apartment . This is a big expense . I am not really satisfied ! Very little ))))

[Stavros]

It depends on how you define success -the thread implies how successful are the average trans escorts at getting customers, which must be one obvious criterion, and the real answer is not in the volume of escorts but the volume of customers. Maybe it is just because more and more people live in cities, so there is more of what a city has to offer.
But it could be widened to ask: how successful are escorts at getting what it is they want? This only means customers up to a point, because the real motive is simply money: and the money is there to do all sorts of things once the rent is paid and the expenses of looking sexy taken care of: taking care of family members, spending it on the latest young passion, spending it on surgical enhancements: maybe even investing in a business. So many reasons, so many customers. What is also interesting is how long the escorts can do it -10 years max? The ones who are cautious with money, invest in a business, or property can survive beyond escorting, I know of some who have 'had it all' and thrown it away on drugs, discovering themselves in their 30s with no looks, no money and not many friends. Success -relative. And customers, like escorts, here today, gone tomorrow.

[asianphoenixx]

Hi forum! First post here.
I'm wondering because all the trans escort pages I see online have very few reviews compared to their cis girl counterparts. This is especially apparent if you visit adultwork. So they either don't have that many clients or their clients are just extremely shy. What do you guys think? Would be cool if I could get some figures and statistics to.



How much do you think we can earn?
So far there is no answer to your question, because it is indeed pretty hard to answer since it will be different from country to country.

Only an International travelling girl like me can answer your question.

and here is my answer:

It's a tough market, and only few escorts nowadays can enjoy comfortable living.

I can't imagine a tgirl escort in most part of Asia, Africa or most part of Europe having a house with a swimming pool and a nice car. There are still few exceptions in some cities...but i won;t tell you LOL.

But it's still possible if you work in Canada, USA, New Zealand, and Australia, though now it's also getting more difficult due to competition.

Back to your question?
How much can we earn?
Well, it depends on how much we are willing to work.
I would say 200 to 400K a year for those who are successful and working hard.

And as somebody has already mentioned, that's true that at the top level, GG escorts are still the "queen of the industry"
For those upscale, successful GG escorts in NYC and London and other big cities in North America, i can easily imagine them earning 400 to 600K annually.

Tia Phoenixx
www.tia-phoenixx.com

[asianphoenixx]

And only if i could still work in Dubai...i will be the queen of all of them LOL

so Yes, the wealthy Arab countries will be the most lucrative market for us..but it's the most dangerous to work as well.
You won't believe how much money we can earn if we are the "IT" girl....20K a day!!!

Ah...I miss my Prince...

[wiltthestilt]

Yeah, guess what. Genetic female hoes will very likely consider a john who also fucks TS's a disease ridden freak/fag and whatnot.

And anonymous screen names are often not so anonymous after all. People find out who this and that screenname belongs to every now and then.

If you review TS and GG hoes on a mixed adult entertainment board using the same screen name, you will get bombed in the straight section. The mainstream culture shits on TS's and the "admirers" even when it comes to the sex trade.

I was watching a documentary on the craigs list killer; and I recall one of the investigators was talking about the forums that he was visiting and she said something like "he was visiting trannsexual forums and other perversions" or something along those lines. As if a TS escort forum is more perverted than a regular escort forum.

[amberskyi]

TG girls almost never care if you see a GG. Genetic Girls can be just as homophobic as any jock you've ever met and won't see a guy if he has reviews of TG girls. So when you try to build up your rep and references that does play a factor.

Why would you tell a provider your online screen name on a review board.doesn't that defeat the point.
How can you give a fair and honest review if the girl knows who you are.is anyone familiar with the concept of a "mystery shopper"?
any way what ever excuse y'all have to be closeted for a bunch of people who don't even know you run with that lmao

[steeveX]

Why would you tell a provider your online screen name on a review board.doesn't that defeat the point.
How can you give a fair and honest review if the girl knows who you are.is anyone familiar with the concept of a "mystery shopper"?
any way what ever excuse y'all have to be closeted for a bunch of people who don't even know you run with that lmao

You don't get it. And I have witnessed a case myself a couple of years back I think on redbook or theeroticreview, can't exactly remember now. A dude actually got recognised by a gg hoe bc of the acts and timeframe he described in his review, he of course didn't give away his screenname. The bitch then raised hell bc she apparently ran a search on the guys posting history and discovered the guy also went to see TS escorts.

[wiltthestilt]

Why would you tell a provider your online screen name on a review board.doesn't that defeat the point.
How can you give a fair and honest review if the girl knows who you are.is anyone familiar with the concept of a "mystery shopper"?
any way what ever excuse y'all have to be closeted for a bunch of people who don't even know you run with that lmao

If you write a detailed review it often isnt hard for them to figure out who you are unless you deliberately alter information. A girl I saw sent me a thank you note after writing a review last week even though I created the screen name after meeting her. Also, many girls ask for your online handle as part of screening. I have a name on another board I use just for that purpose.

[Stavros]

You don't get it. And I have witnessed a case myself a couple of years back I think on redbook or theeroticreview, can't exactly remember now. A dude actually got recognised by a gg hoe bc of the acts and timeframe he described in his review, he of course didn't give away his screenname. The bitch then raised hell bc she apparently ran a search on the guys posting history and discovered the guy also went to see TS escorts.

I would have thought if you want the respect of your fellow human beings, using words like 'hoe' and 'bitch' would not be in our lexicon.

[amberskyi]

If you write a detailed review it often isnt hard for them to figure out who you are unless you deliberately alter information. A girl I saw sent me a thank you note after writing a review last week even though I created the screen name after meeting her. Also, many girls ask for your online handle as part of screening. I have a name on another board I use just for that purpose.

You really think an escort is going to recognize you out of all the men she sees off of a description of y'all session.i have a few reviews (one crazy detailed, sounded like a penthouse letter lol) on here and i have no idea who the men are.just another session out of the many I've provided.
also for the sake of argument who cares what an escort thinks.is she apart of your life? Do you celebrate your life occasions with her? She's coming to the family picnic?
you think i care what a client thinks about me personally or how i choose to live my life? Hell naw! Lol.we're just two strangers passing in "the night".he doesn't know anything real about me and i shouldn't know anything real about him, that way there is no crossover between this encounter and our personal lives.

[amberskyi]

I would have thought if you want the respect of your fellow human beings, using words like 'hoe' and 'bitch' would not be in our lexicon.

Some people don't know how to have an intelligent, respectful if maybe heated debate

[Nikka]

Although London now has certainly well over 100 transgendered escorts I suspect it is still a minority interest compared with GG hookers

I fucked a V.I.P. romanian GG AAHHHH London Mamories.... :party:

[wiltthestilt]

You really think an escort is going to recognize you out of all the men she sees off of a description of y'all session.i have a few reviews (one crazy detailed, sounded like a penthouse letter lol) on here and i have no idea who the men are.just another session out of the many I've provided.
also for the sake of argument who cares what an escort thinks.is she apart of your life? Do you celebrate your life occasions with her? She's coming to the family picnic?
you think i care what a client thinks about me personally or how i choose to live my life? Hell naw! Lol.we're just two strangers passing in "the night".he doesn't know anything real about me and i shouldn't know anything real about him, that way there is no crossover between this encounter and our personal lives.

I dont think. A TS who I had seen in May actually texted me to thank me for a review I posted in June despite my not giving her my screen name or mentioning a specific date. She has ads in several cities and plenty of clients. Agencies and savy providers often keep track of who reviewers are if possible. Through process of elimination it isnt that difficult.

[amberskyi]

Guess im just one of the girls that have better things to do with my time lol

[Prospero]

what is your measure of success OP? Are talking simply money or as people? lol
I met a girl recently who seemed to be doing okay. She showed me her £900 Prada shoes.

[VictoriaVeil]

what is your measure of success OP? Are talking simply money or as people? lol
I met a girl recently who seemed to be doing okay. She showed me her £900 Prada shoes.

:iagree:

[asianphoenixx]

what is your measure of success OP? Are talking simply money or as people? lol
I met a girl recently who seemed to be doing okay. She showed me her £900 Prada shoes.


lol, that's very true, success can be measured in so many ways.
I find it funny that you gave us the prada shoes as an example.
Most of us, indeed has the urge to show off by buying expensive stuff.
me too, though it's not prada shoes.
I have fetish on other things....property is one of them lol

I just bought a new one earlier this year:
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Tia-Phoenixx/210906275647702

I'm so proud!

[Nikka]

tia phoenixx is an extraordinary example

I have met LOADS of escort girls totally broke

[asianphoenixx]

tia phoenixx is an extraordinary example

I have met LOADS of escort girls totally broke


sweet of you hon, thanks!

Yes, i have seen lots of us who are broke too.
And i know why..:
Because we don't consider our future seriously.
I plan way ahead of time, saving every penny for my retirement and a better future.

I bought my 1st house in Toronto just after 3.5 months working as an escort.
O boy...I remember that earlier day...i save 90% of my income and thanks God..the business was extremely good at that time, so after 3.5 months I was able to pay $72,800 for down payment of my house.

I remember it like yesterday.

Each of us can do that Nikka...we just have to be more serious and seeing our escorting business as a serious profession, not just as an escape.

btw, sorry i couldn't see you in London last time, I was busy with clients
but maybe next time?

keep in touch girl!

Tia

[bluesoul]

I was watching a documentary on the craigs list killer; and I recall one of the investigators was talking about the forums that he was visiting and she said something like "he was visiting trannsexual forums and other perversions" or something along those lines. As if a TS escort forum is more perverted than a regular escort forum.

considering how "secretive" a lot of people make it out to be (like using 2 different names for GG and TS) it could seem perverse. and when someone says they like tgirls, the first thing someone will think is that they're the bottom feeder.


Why would you tell a provider your online screen name on a review board.doesn't that defeat the point.
How can you give a fair and honest review if the girl knows who you are.is anyone familiar with the concept of a "mystery shopper"?
any way what ever excuse y'all have to be closeted for a bunch of people who don't even know you run with that lmao

if someone wrote a review about coming to see you and mentioned something you both did before the sex you wouldn't be able to tell who that was? most reviews i've read sometimes even mention the time (or they indicate either they or the person they went to see was late) etc.

[canihavu]

People don't want an anonymous online screen name associated with ts on a prostitute review board?? How more closeted can you get lmaoooo


Yeah, it's amazing. I've been checking guys profiles. You have guys who review all TS's and then guys who review all gg's and no TS's. You have some guys with both, but it seems that the field is very stratified. My guess is that the TS only guys basically joined the hobby just to live out their TS fantasies, whereas the GG only guys with 100 + reviews are more likely to keep their TS encounters to themselves since they worry their online identity will lose credibility.

I actually know a GG escort who will not date a guy if he has reviews of TS.

[bluesoul]

I actually know a GG escort who will not date a guy if he has reviews of TS.

here's something else to consider. christianxxx has said that girls have put him on their no list because he will perform with tgirls, but has any girl put him on their no list because he used to perform in gay porn?

[Willie Escalade]

here's something else to consider. christianxxx has said that girls have put him on their no list because he will perform with tgirls, but has any girl put him on their no list because he used to perform in gay porn?

A few girls find that to be hot in some cases...

[wiltthestilt]

here's something else to consider. christianxxx has said that girls have put him on their no list because he will perform with tgirls, but has any girl put him on their no list because he used to perform in gay porn?

Obviously he would be the best one to answer that, but his TS work has been ongoing throughout his straight career as opposed to his gay work which he stopped years ago.

There have been a number of male porn performers who seem to have worked with everyone despite having a past in gay porn: Peter North is probably the best example.

[buttslinger]

I think every gambler and prostitute has the story about
the night I made five thousand dollars

[lixx]

Hmm.. don't think i agree with the general view here.

I used to live in the UK, and first visited TS escorts in London just over 10 years ago. Back then, there were plenty in central London, and most didn't even advertise online. The best site then (and now IMO) is rxxx.com, as in any one time there are about 100 ladies advertising there. I remember in the early 2000s, there were plenty of TS escorts around in London.

Also, some just place tart cards in phone boxes. for who don't know what they are, well if your every in central London, you'll see adverts for escorts, GGs, TSs, doesn't matter, lol.. The local councils made a crackdown on this a few years ago, but they made a comeback to some degree.

I would say at any one time there must be 200-300 TSs working in central London, including those who advertise online or not. There may be even more GGs, but so what? There are more GGs period, duh.. lol....

As for them getting revenue, well sure. London is arguably the major world city, so it's not just Brits who want action. I'd think most escorts of whatever description (GG, TS, even men) must make money. Even then, if a TS only saw two clients a day charging 150 pounds a time, that's 300 pounds over let's say five days, that's 1500 pounds a week and 6000 pounds a month (72000 pounds a year). Now, most Brits here would know this is an excellent wage in the grand UK scheme and well above the average. so it balances out.

this may be tl;dr, but suffice to say I think London and other big world cities have had plenty of TS escorts for a long while.

[lixx]

You really think an escort is going to recognize you out of all the men she sees off of a description of y'all session.i have a few reviews (one crazy detailed, sounded like a penthouse letter lol) on here and i have no idea who the men are.just another session out of the many I've provided.
also for the sake of argument who cares what an escort thinks.is she apart of your life? Do you celebrate your life occasions with her? She's coming to the family picnic?
you think i care what a client thinks about me personally or how i choose to live my life? Hell naw! Lol.we're just two strangers passing in "the night".he doesn't know anything real about me and i shouldn't know anything real about him, that way there is no crossover between this encounter and our personal lives.

i think there are few major TS escort review websites out there.

even still, i agree, i don't get why somebody should be prissy over a pseudonym.

if guys want a forum to say which escorts are good or not, start a website. hosting space can be got free!! lol..

[lixx]

Yeah, guess what. Genetic female hoes will very likely consider a john who also fucks TS's a disease ridden freak/fag and whatnot.

And anonymous screen names are often not so anonymous after all. People find out who this and that screenname belongs to every now and then.

If you review TS and GG hoes on a mixed adult entertainment board using the same screen name, you will get bombed in the straight section. The mainstream culture shits on TS's and the "admirers" even when it comes to the sex trade.

so start a website for TS escort reviews.

or realise that there is no way for a GG escort to figure out who has slept with who.

[wiltthestilt]

so start a website for TS escort reviews.

or realise that there is no way for a GG escort to figure out who has slept with who.

I'm not sure what you mean here. There are ways for a gg escort to figure out who has slept with who when it is posted on a major escort board like TER. When it is not posted, then of course she will not know. There are GG escorts who will discriminate against men who see TS's. Some guys don't care and some guys do. That is all anyone has said.

[KatherineRusTS]

It depends on how you define success -the thread implies how successful are the average trans escorts at getting customers, which must be one obvious criterion, and the real answer is not in the volume of escorts but the volume of customers. Maybe it is just because more and more people live in cities, so there is more of what a city has to offer.
But it could be widened to ask: how successful are escorts at getting what it is they want? This only means customers up to a point, because the real motive is simply money: and the money is there to do all sorts of things once the rent is paid and the expenses of looking sexy taken care of: taking care of family members, spending it on the latest young passion, spending it on surgical enhancements: maybe even investing in a business. So many reasons, so many customers. What is also interesting is how long the escorts can do it -10 years max? The ones who are cautious with money, invest in a business, or property can survive beyond escorting, I know of some who have 'had it all' and thrown it away on drugs, discovering themselves in their 30s with no looks, no money and not many friends. Success -relative. And customers, like escorts, here today, gone tomorrow.

I could not no agree with you . Correct investment determines the future . In the sphere escort : the future was not and could not be, given the moments of the competition . It's really the truth : the client runs around and they look at you as goods and few people to pay attention that the price is hidden the soul of the person in need of care and attention ! In our material world is very difficult to survive and survival of the fittest ...
Few people have enough brains properly invest the money earned at the cost of her health

[zardoz_2008]

Well that just points to what we should already know. Supply and demand. There are ton of working trans escorts in Asia and South America, and the cost of living and wages effects them where they charge very little.
Dubai, there are almost no working girls and a ridiculous amount of money being throw around, so very high prices.

[Rusty Eldora]

In Seattle the poon boards have social functions. I go to 3 or 4 parties a year, monthly lunches, picnics, ball games, etc. They know me by my handle of that board. I actually have 2 handles for my GG hobby, use the same handle on 2, a different one on a more upscale board.

Seattle is a big reference community, to see a GG escort you need to provide the names of 2 escorts that will give you a reference. So I will do a review if it is a knock me off my feet session, but I don't do bad reviews, as I don't like arrows in my back

My TS activities are as Rusty, so I keep them separate. TER allows for an alt handle, so the board knows both but the reviews have different names.

Although I really want to see GG providers that are cool about TS, I find it important to have different handles.

[Prospero]

The wise put their money away in something solid - like that amazing property you have Tia - or invest for a future beyond escorting. The girl i mentioned had expensive shoes - but told me se invests only in a few expensive things. They are better quality and better made and, in the case of the shoes, look good and are easier to walk in than shoes a tenth of the price. Otherwise she too has a firm fix on how her present income will free her from escorting within a very few years.

The foolish buy drugs and waste their youth and their futures on silly things. They are somewhat lost souls I think - and cannot be measured as a success in the bigger picture.

[starkem]

If you want to optimize your income as TG: go DOMME.


Most TGs don't even like to Domme...but they understand money and control are just a better job for safety and health.

I am not saying that other styles don't get rich...I am saying that this is very hard job for which the real winners that get to enjoy their money and their life understand very differently from those that are just looking for income.

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