Satanism

[Erika1487]

I know I am......................

As a independent Satanist, I do not follow the Chruch of Satan (CoS) path of satanism....
Infact, Independent Satanism is quite different. Independence is for those who are self-directed and who act upon their own will. There are no leaders, no structured organizations to turn to for instruction and advice. Inspiration must be found through research, study and practice.
Truly I am a Satanic Witch who works alone in her practice.....

So who else here is among Lucifer's Chosen? :twisted:

[Dino Velvet]

Just be free. There is no Devil. Follow the path you choose. The idea of Lucifer is what the Church uses to control you.

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[Prospero]

:iagree::iagree::iagree:
Just be free. There is no Devil. Follow the path you choose. The idea of Lucifer is what the Church uses to control you.

[tsadriana]

Just be free. There is no Devil. Follow the path you choose. The idea of Lucifer is what the Church uses to control you.

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And the church actualy the {cunts) can bite my nuts..The worse and dangerous institution on the planet...Because of the church millions of people lost their lives..and for the pope i would gladly sit on his face and fart.:cheers:

[Dino Velvet]

And the church actualy the {cunts) can bite my nuts..The worse and dangerous institution on the planet...Because of the church millions of people lost their lives..and for the pope i would gladly sit on his face and fart.:cheers:

Good point. People are born with religion put on them. They are dominated, manipulated, and deceived but many stay with the flock because they are afraid and know no other way.

[tsadriana]

Good point. People are born with religion put on them. They are dominated, manipulated, and deceived but many stay with the flock because they are afraid and know no other way.
Church makes people be weak and affraid of their ideals ..Church is the one with the most big pocket ..They take money from ,rob you in a very religious way:mad:I forgot ythey have a big attraction for the kids..."LET THE KIDS COME TO US" and not in the way we think .:mad:

[Dino Velvet]

The Pope says, "Throwing away food is like stealing from the table of those who are poor and hungry". It is also wrong to allow your congregation to think the money they give goes to the poor when, in reality, some does go to the poor but much of the rest is used to deny justice and hide more sin behind.

“The greatest trick the devil ever played was convincing the world that he did not exist.”

The most profitable scam The Church ever came up with is that The Devil does exist and only they can save you.

[VictoriaVeil]

And the church actualy the {cunts) can bite my nuts..The worse and dangerous institution on the planet...Because of the church millions of people lost their lives..and for the pope i would gladly sit on his face and fart.:cheers:

I'll shoot it for ya.

[Dino Velvet]

Getting back to that, I wish Adriana would sit on my face and fart. I'd take the fumes if I could get the view.

[tsadriana]

Getting back to that, I wish Adriana would sit on my face and fart. I'd take the fumes if I could get the view.
:mad::mad::mad:x

[danthepoetman]

What gigantic statues elevated to illusions and nothingness! What a loss of energy and creativity on pure wind! How is it that what isn't becomes more important to people than what is? How is it that they will sacrifice anything of what's around them in the name of that nothingness?
To think that for centuries, the great monotheisms have ridiculed animism as superstitions, against the reality of their God and their beliefs, when in fact, we can't see or apprehend anything of their inexistent God, and animists on the contrary believe in what they see, the river, the earth, the sky, the sun...

[Prospero]

Did you know the main brand of Mayonnaise is linked to the devil? It's made by Hellman

[LexusFire]

Did you know the main brand of Mayonnaise is linked to the devil? It's made by Hellman

Nicely put!!!!

[Stavros]

Not to mention the confused people who can't tell the difference between Lucifer and Satan.

[gregorysgirl]

Read The Satanic Bible & it certainly made more sense that the other one I was brought up with!

[martin48]

Read The Satanic Bible & it certainly made more sense that the other one I was brought up with!

Be on the winning side (or so it seems looking at the world) and follow Satan

[Nikka]

madison montag

[danthepoetman]

Not to mention the confused people who can't tell the difference between Lucifer and Satan.
What is it, Stavros? Satan is "the opponent", the dissenting voice in God's court, I suppose. Lucifer, in mythology, is rather linked to a promethean figure, the carrier of the flame, the provider of knowledge to humanity; that's what the latin name means, I think.
Notions of a Hell being a place of eternal punishment, directed by a supreme evil figure who can also intervene in the world, is a creation of the Middle Age. The Gehena mentioned in the Gospel was in fact the public dump, where stuff were left to burn outside Jerusalem's walls. Of course, there's the Greek Tartar, which bare some similarities, and is probably the inspiration. But the whole Hell thing is still a late construction.
The funniest tradition is the one making of the devil the most beautiful of angels!! Isn't this one coming from the book of Enock? I've tried to read this one a few times, but wasn't able to get through: it's almost leathally boring...

[Stavros]

Dan I think your erudition is lost on those who don't know the difference and take their interest in heavy metal a bit too far...even Dante presented Hell as an allegory of contemporary Italy, he too was an erudite man not fooled by the priests.

[Erika1487]

To clear up some confusion of regarding Lucifer & Satan, I should state that BOTH are Princes and are summoned as part of the 13 steps in a satanic ritual.

Here is a Step by Step guide to a Destruction Ritual...............
1. Dress for ritual.
2. Assemble devices for ritual; light candles and shut out all outside light sources; place
parchments to right and left of the altar as indicated.
3. If a woman is used as the altar she now takes her position - head pointing south, feet pointing north.
4. Purification of the air by ringing of the bell.
5. "Invocation to Satan" and "Infernal Names" which follow (see Book of Leviathan) are
now read aloud by priest. Participants will repeat each Infernal Name after it has been said by priest.
6. Drink from chalice.
7. Turning counter-clockwise, the priest points with the sword to each cardinal point of the compass and calls forth the respective Princes of Hell: Satan from the south, Lucifer from the east, Belial from the north, and Leviathan from the west.
8. Perform benediction with the phallus (if one is used).
9. Priest reads aloud appropriate invocation for respective ceremony: Lust, Compassion, or Destruction
10. To Cause The Destruction Of An Enemy
Remain in the area of the altar unless imagery is more easily obtained in another spot,
such as in the vicinity of the victim. Producing the image of the victim, proceed to
inflict the destruction upon the effigy in the manner of your choice. This can be done
in the following ways:
the sticking of pins or nails into a doll representing your victim; the doll may
be cloth, wax, wood, vegetable matter, etc.
the creation of graphic imagery depicting the method of your victim's
destruction; drawings, paintings, etc.
the creation of a vivid literary description of your victim's ultimate end.
a detailed soliloquy directed at the intended victim, describing his torments and
annihilation.
mutilation, injury, infliction of pain or illness by proxy using any other means
or devices desired.
Intense, calculated hatred and disdain should accompany this step of the ceremony,
and no attempt should be made to stop this step until the expended energy results in a
state of relative exhaustion on the part of the magician. When the exhastion ensues,
proceed to step #11.
11. If requests are given verbally, participants (one at a time) now tell them to the priest. He then repeats in his own words (those which are most emotionally
stimulating to him) the request. "Shemhamforash!" and "Hail Satan!" is said after each request.
12. Appropriate Enochian Key is now read by the priest, as evidence of the participants'
allegiance to the Powers of Darkness.
13. Ringing of the bell as pollutionary, and then the words "SO IT IS DONE" are spoken by the
priest.

[Prospero]

What wonderful fun Erika... party games for the deranged

[Prospero]

This is of course the same dear old Erika who has been away awhile.... i recall her posting about becoming a boxer.

[robertlouis]

If it's ok with everyone else, I'll stick with "Paradise Lost".

[Willie Escalade]

Just be free. There is no Devil. Follow the path you choose. The idea of Lucifer is what the Church uses to control you.
I went to a Catholic school from K-12...and I agree with what you said.


madison montag
Oh my damn!

[Erika1487]

This is of course the same dear old Erika who has been away awhile.... i recall her posting about becoming a boxer.

I tried my best to get licensed, but could not convince the Ohio Boxing commission or USA boxing to license me! I still Spar once in awhile with a friend at a local gym, but my competitive side has slowed to a crawl :(


What wonderful fun Erika... party games for the deranged
I would choose my words a little more wisely Prospero......Maybe you suffer from Contemporary Moral Panic?

[Prospero]

Moral panic, moi? I don't think so.

[buttslinger]

Prospero, I heard you're a well connected high up in a secret phantom society cult where the members won't give their real names, and they carry on conversations with their computer monitor when they're alone in a small dark room and no-one else is watching.........n'est pas??

[buttslinger]

Willie Escalade ....now I KNOW he's in league with the Devil!
Driving around Sin City in plain sight....stretch limo, a gorgeous babe on each arm.......
good looks? twelve inch dick? suitcases full of cash, personality??? .....
no no no, this is Devil's work!!!!!!

ha ha ha

[Willie Escalade]

Willie Escalade ....now I KNOW he's in league with the Devil!
Driving around Sin City in plain sight....stretch limo, a gorgeous babe on each arm.......
good looks? twelve inch dick? suitcases full of cash, personality??? .....
no no no, this is Devil's work!!!!!!

ha ha ha
Eight inches, brah...I'm not packing. :(

And no limo; I roll luxury van conversions. More room for action. :)

[buttslinger]

I roll luxury van conversions. More room for action. :)

Looks like getting there is half the fun........

[danthepoetman]

This is of course the same dear old Erika who has been away awhile.... i recall her posting about becoming a boxer.
I fell stupid! I did not realized it was our Erika! I'm sorry, Erika!
So Erika, is that satanic thing new? Is it something you've been practicing for a long time?
I always had trouble understanding the logic of satanism, Erika: if you do believe in the devil, it means that you must also believe in God, and consequently in the Heaven and Hell mythology; but then, if you side up with the bad guy, you then think you'll pay eternally, don't you? you'll end up in Hell? In other words, Erika, what I don't understand -and I'm asking this out of real curiosity; I'm not being judgemental because personally, I'm agnostic- is why would you practice satanism "knowing" that you'll go to Hell?

[Prospero]

Last year she was a Republican. So it's a logical step.

[joeninety]

I fell stupid! I did not realized it was our Erika! I'm sorry, Erika!
So Erika, is that satanic thing new? Is it something you've been practicing for a long time?
I always had trouble understanding the logic of satanism, Erika: if you do believe in the devil, it means that you must also believe in God, and consequently in the Heaven and Hell mythology; but then, if you side up with the bad guy, you then think you'll pay eternally, don't you? you'll end up in Hell? In other words, Erika, what I don't understand -and I'm asking this out of real curiosity; I'm not being judgemental because personally, I'm agnostic- is why would you practice satanism "knowing" that you'll go to Hell?

Nice summary Mr Poet, I would love to know the answer to that question:lol:

[robertlouis]

I fell stupid! I did not realized it was our Erika! I'm sorry, Erika!
So Erika, is that satanic thing new? Is it something you've been practicing for a long time?
I always had trouble understanding the logic of satanism, Erika: if you do believe in the devil, it means that you must also believe in God, and consequently in the Heaven and Hell mythology; but then, if you side up with the bad guy, you then think you'll pay eternally, don't you? you'll end up in Hell? In other words, Erika, what I don't understand -and I'm asking this out of real curiosity; I'm not being judgemental because personally, I'm agnostic- is why would you practice satanism "knowing" that you'll go to Hell?

If heaven is full of southern baptists and tea-partiers I'll take my chances with old nick, Dan. Can't help thinking that there must be more interesting people down there.

If it, or indeed, heaven, exists......

[danthepoetman]

Nice summary Mr Poet, I would love to know the answer to that question:lol:
Hey! Joe, my friend! How are you? :)


If heaven is full of southern baptists and tea-partiers I'll take my chances with old nick, Dan. Can't help thinking that there must be more interesting people down there.
If it, or indeed, heaven, exists......
I always felt that it's probably much funnier down there indeed. The way Heaven is presented, all these people sitting right or left of God forever, yes: forever! seems like quite a bit of a drag...

[joeninety]

Hey! Joe, my friend! How are you? :)


I always felt that it's probably much funnier down there indeed. The way Heaven is presented, all these people sitting right or left of God forever, yes: forever! seems like quite a bit of a drag...

Hello Dan, I am good my man, what about you?

Think you may have hit the nail on the head here maybe Erika is in the know about such things......If its true I am definitely going to reserve my spot in Hotel la Pit, the thought of getting it on with a couple of she-devils is really starting to sway me:dead::lol:

[Erika1487]

I fell stupid! I did not realized it was our Erika! I'm sorry, Erika!
So Erika, is that satanic thing new? Is it something you've been practicing for a long time?
I always had trouble understanding the logic of satanism, Erika: if you do believe in the devil, it means that you must also believe in God, and consequently in the Heaven and Hell mythology; but then, if you side up with the bad guy, you then think you'll pay eternally, don't you? you'll end up in Hell? In other words, Erika, what I don't understand -and I'm asking this out of real curiosity; I'm not being judgemental because personally, I'm agnostic- is why would you practice satanism "knowing" that you'll go to Hell?

My friend and fellow Satanist Venus Satanas wrote a great article on the subject

Do Satanists believe in the afterlife? What will happen to them? are they headed to a paradise or to hell? These questions have been sent to me before, and although they are not easy questions to answer, there are some resorces available that show what some Satanists believe about the afterlife.In the philosophy of Satanism, the Satanist does not accept the possibility of the afterlife, choosing to instead believe as little as they can and to accept life in the here and now: "Life is the Great Indulgence, Death the great Abstinence, therefore make the most of life in the HERE AND NOW!" [The Satanic Bible,Book of Satan, Ch. 4 Verse 1] This sentiment is echoed again in the SB with the statement, "Here and now is our day of Joy.. our day of opportunity". this is quite opposite to what other religions teach; that we are to feel guilty for enjoying life in a pleasurable way.

Making the most of here and now refers to living life without the guilt of a punishment or reward. The Satanist does not believe that they are going to an infernal hell, or Dante's Lake of fire or any other place beyond the grave. I tend to agree. Many religions have tried to explain this phenomenon by teaching and preparing their religious for an eventual blessing or punishment in the afterlife, or the promise of reincarnation.

I am interested in the amount of ghost phenomenon that I have seen. while I do not accept all of it as true, some of these things can not be explained. it would seem that ghosts and their existence, and stories of their existence, are a part of the natural world we live in. I can not explain the phenomenon nor can I dismiss the proof that I have seen. I personally believe that the soul experiences a state of suspension after death but this soul is not eternal nor does it ascend into a heaven or descend into a hell. (I think there is a metaphysical reasoning for a spiritual existence after death. Religion directs the the belief in this phenomenon, but outside of religion there may be other explanations.)

But, I can only base my beliefs (or, ideas on what the afterlife is) on what I have seen, and evidence like EVP's [electronic voices], witnesses, personal experience, video evidence, orb photography, and the numerous stories and general belief in ghosts makes me feel as if we do not fully understand what happens after death; maybe we create our own experience of life, and we do not know what is beyond death until we walk through that door.

I will not be afraid

Venus Satanas.

[Stavros]

Two loves I have, of comfort and despair,
Which, like two spirits, do suggest me still;
The better angel is a man right fair,
The worser spirit a woman colored ill.
To win me soon to hell, my female evil
Tempteth my better angel from my side,
And would corrupt my saint to be a devil,
Wooing his purity with her foul pride.
And whether that my angel be turned fiend
Suspect I may, but not directly tell;
But being both from me both to each friend,
I guess one angel in another’s hell.
  Yet this shall I ne'er know, but live in doubt,
  Till my bad angel fire my good one out.

[danthepoetman]

Beautiful, Stavros! Who is that from?

I see, Erika. But then, if it's essentially a way to enjoy life in the moment, why Satan? Why the pain and the magic? the ceremonies? You would not believe in an after-life but you would believe in occult relations which allow magic? Usually, one excludes the other.
And once again, Erika, is that something new in your life? Have you just discovered that recently?

[joeninety]

My friend and fellow Satanist Venus Satanas wrote a great article on the subject

Do Satanists believe in the afterlife? What will happen to them? are they headed to a paradise or to hell? These questions have been sent to me before, and although they are not easy questions to answer, there are some resorces available that show what some Satanists believe about the afterlife.In the philosophy of Satanism, the Satanist does not accept the possibility of the afterlife, choosing to instead believe as little as they can and to accept life in the here and now: "Life is the Great Indulgence, Death the great Abstinence, therefore make the most of life in the HERE AND NOW!" [The Satanic Bible,Book of Satan, Ch. 4 Verse 1] This sentiment is echoed again in the SB with the statement, "Here and now is our day of Joy.. our day of opportunity". this is quite opposite to what other religions teach; that we are to feel guilty for enjoying life in a pleasurable way.

Making the most of here and now refers to living life without the guilt of a punishment or reward. The Satanist does not believe that they are going to an infernal hell, or Dante's Lake of fire or any other place beyond the grave. I tend to agree. Many religions have tried to explain this phenomenon by teaching and preparing their religious for an eventual blessing or punishment in the afterlife, or the promise of reincarnation.

I am interested in the amount of ghost phenomenon that I have seen. while I do not accept all of it as true, some of these things can not be explained. it would seem that ghosts and their existence, and stories of their existence, are a part of the natural world we live in. I can not explain the phenomenon nor can I dismiss the proof that I have seen. I personally believe that the soul experiences a state of suspension after death but this soul is not eternal nor does it ascend into a heaven or descend into a hell. (I think there is a metaphysical reasoning for a spiritual existence after death. Religion directs the the belief in this phenomenon, but outside of religion there may be other explanations.)

But, I can only base my beliefs (or, ideas on what the afterlife is) on what I have seen, and evidence like EVP's [electronic voices], witnesses, personal experience, video evidence, orb photography, and the numerous stories and general belief in ghosts makes me feel as if we do not fully understand what happens after death; maybe we create our own experience of life, and we do not know what is beyond death until we walk through that door.

I will not be afraid

Venus Satanas.

So let me get this straight Satanism has a similarity to Buddhism in the fact that they both seem centred around "the here and now" living your life in the moment.

It also seems to have similarities with libertarianism (in the belief of living life exactly as you choose) and with being a libertine, throw in a good serving of anarchy and that sounds a lot like your version of Satanisn.

Curious to know where is all the sacrifice stuff, the evil, the devil, the dark arts etc????

I like what you have to say in the fact that your beliefs are firmly tied to your experiences, having witnessed my fair share of the unknown, I can relate to you in regards to the otherworldly:yingyang:

[Stavros]

Beautiful, Stavros! Who is that from?


Stick with it, Dan, some real gems here and wonderfully delivered. I think this is Governor's Island, NYC

Shakespeare Anywhere at FIGMENT NYC 2012: Shakespeare Scenes and Sonnets - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw-9SDuffbI)

[buttslinger]

I remember an urban myth about a secret society in NYC that would engage in all kinds of perverted shit from drugs to snuff films, and the Son of Sam and Robert Mapplethorpe were supposed to be members.

I used to live two lives, the stupid honest sap that spent all day solving other people's little problems, and the cunning embezzler who stole as much money as he earned, and spent it all on dancing girls and whores.
When it came to women, variety was the spice of my life, but one girl really got to me, and she said she would be willing to connect me to anything I wanted, young girls, orgies, drugs, jewelry, machine guns!!!...whatever I wanted. But I was very superstitious, and didn't want to go to jail, which is HELL on earth, yes? I didn't want to get caught. I was content to be a tourist.

It sounds like Natina has kind of a pact with the Devil out there in L.A. I'm almost POSITIVE that the Devil has the absolute best parties, man.

[Erika1487]

Beautiful, Stavros! Who is that from?

I see, Erika. But then, if it's essentially a way to enjoy life in the moment, why Satan? Why the pain and the magic? the ceremonies? You would not believe in an after-life but you would believe in occult relations which allow magic? Usually, one excludes the other.
And once again, Erika, is that something new in your life? Have you just discovered that recently?


Dan to answer your question, I find peace in my heart in Satanism that I never had as so called Christian. The Idea of becoming a Satanist has been in the works for over a decade, but my actual practice has only been for four months. Christianity kept me dumb and blind to my own sense of self, it wasn't till I transitioned until I seen a very ugly side of 'Christianity'! So why Satan? I find enjoying life in the moment much more gratifying than servitude to 'God' I am not bound to serve Satan I choose to worship him for my own benefit.
I find that satanic rituals give me inner strength and help deepen my practice, I don't connect them to thoughts of the after-life.... As far as 'satanic magic' goes I am yet a novice, but am learning more everyday.

[Erika1487]

[QUOTE=joeninety;1340546].Curious to know where is all the sacrifice stuff, the evil, the devil, the dark arts etc????[QUOTE]

Not all Satanic rituals are 'evil' many are about compassion and lust. The idea of "satanic sacrifice" is way more myth than actual truth. I am not bound to serve Satan I choose to worship him for my own benefit.
Most Satanists worship alone and employ rituals alone, For this reason the 'Black Mass' is the rare occasion that Satanists come together and worship.

[Dino Velvet]

Worshiping anything defeats the whole purpose of being a Satanist IMO. Your goal is to be the best individual you can be. Being free takes courage and personal accountability and that's why many hold hands inside of a Church fearing their God.

There is no Devil. It's theater. Be theatrical.

[robertlouis]

I've always hankered after the Manichean belief - the self-evident truth? - that good and evil co-exist.

And I'm with Dino too. Religion is and should be entirely personal.

Some of my closest friends over the years and throughout my life have been Quakers. That's an entirely admirable form of religion for me.

[danthepoetman]

Stick with it, Dan, some real gems here and wonderfully delivered. I think this is Governor's Island, NYC

Shakespeare Anywhere at FIGMENT NYC 2012: Shakespeare Scenes and Sonnets - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw-9SDuffbI)
LOL! Of course! I should have known! My culture sucks... :) Thanks, Stavros!


Dan to answer your question, I find peace in my heart in Satanism that I never had as so called Christian. The Idea of becoming a Satanist has been in the works for over a decade, but my actual practice has only been for four months. Christianity kept me dumb and blind to my own sense of self, it wasn't till I transitioned until I seen a very ugly side of 'Christianity'! So why Satan? I find enjoying life in the moment much more gratifying than servitude to 'God' I am not bound to serve Satan I choose to worship him for my own benefit.
I find that satanic rituals give me inner strength and help deepen my practice, I don't connect them to thoughts of the after-life.... As far as 'satanic magic' goes I am yet a novice, but am learning more everyday.
Erika, I'm glad you found something that makes you feel good. I think I understand the purpose and what you get from it and I'm glad for you. You've been through so much! That's how life is: you just find the stuff that helps you travel a bit of the road and if it's not good anymore, you find something else that's more convenient.
I'm very happy to see you back, Erika! And it's nice to see you passionate again too! :kiss:

[Erika1487]

LOL! Of course! I should have known! My culture sucks... :) Thanks, Stavros!


Erika, I'm glad you found something that makes you feel good. I think I understand the purpose and what you get from it and I'm glad for you. You've been through so much! That's how life is: you just find the stuff that helps you travel a bit of the road and if it's not good anymore, you find something else that's more convenient.
I'm very happy to see you back, Erika! And it's nice to see you passionate again too! :kiss:

Thank you Dan Hope you are doing well too :)

[SugaSweet]

I put my soul up for bid on ebay,but they removed my post after three days(no bids).

[trish]

The benefit of trading one delusion for another is variety.

[Prospero]

A theme song for this thread?

Marlene Dietrich ╬ Illusions ♥â€* - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4MEjf_bIKw)

[martin48]

The benefit of trading one delusion for another is variety.

If variety is the spice of life, marriage is the big can of leftover Spam. Johnny Carson


Just a thought!

Satanism doesn't seem that much fun (see pic).

Hinduism always looks the most interesting - 2rd pic

[Jericho]

I sold my soul to Santa...Got a skateboard! :party:

[fred41]

I sold my soul to Santa...Got a skateboard! :party:


not bad... I only got socks for mine.

[danthepoetman]

I sold my soul to Santa...Got a skateboard! :party:

not bad... I only got socks for mine.

I wouldn't sell to the fatso, but I'd definitely sell my body to the blue fairy or the star fairy or whatever, you know? the little cutie, always with Santa... But hey! is it someone real, or just a shopping mall stunt??

[buttslinger]

from hung angels to hells angels

[danthepoetman]

And says Achilles:
"It is preferable to be the slave of the poorest dirt farmer in Boeotia rather than be King of the Underworld." Homer, Odissey, Book 11...
:)

[buttslinger]

And says Achilles:
"It is preferable to be the slave of the poorest dirt farmer in Boeotia rather than be King of the Underworld." Homer, Odissey, Book 11...
:)

Achilles was like the world's most spoiled brat. Sulking in his tent. Not Brad Pitt spoiled, but still a pretty boy....... Man, they don't write stories like that anymore, sigh.
I'm not sure the Greeks were the good guys, either.

[danthepoetman]

He wanted eternity. The guy really got it...

[Erika1487]

I have moved up the ladder in my satanic coven I am now a priestesses and sanctioned to preform satanic baptisms for both adults and children.

[AshlynCreamher]

I am the devils favorite child :twisted:

but...

I don't practice religion of any type and this includs satanism - in my own observation, ALL religious people are bias and have a lot of hate in them including Satanist

[trish]

I have moved up the ladder in my satanic coven I am now a priestesses and sanctioned to preform satanic baptisms for both adults and children.Well, that's one way to waste your time. At least it does no harm.

[Jericho]

I have moved up the ladder in my satanic coven I am now a priestesses and sanctioned to preform satanic baptisms for both adults and children.




As a independent Satanist, I do not follow the Chruch of Satan (CoS) path of satanism....
Infact, Independent Satanism is quite different. Independence is for those who are self-directed and who act upon their own will. There are no leaders, no structured organizations to turn to for instruction and advice. Inspiration must be found through research, study and practice.
Truly I am a Satanic Witch who works alone in her practice.....

Ahem...

[diddyboponTOP]

As a professional Occultist I have read a great deal on Satanism and even practiced it for a while, To me the Levayan concept makes no sense but his bible is cool, The thestic side is much more interesting

[diddyboponTOP]

If anyone is interested,I read Tarot in the NYC area, I also offer readings online Via Email
If anyone is interested message me and I'll send you my websites

[holzz]

a religion made up by teens to look cool....sorry, just my opinion!

[NRT]

a religion made up by teens to look cool....sorry, just my opinion!

Well all religions could be described as that btw

Concerning this discussion, I heard 'Luciferians' are more powerful and secretive than freemasons and the illuminati, controlling banks and big institutions. Or is that another David Icke urban myth that he has made up for popular consumption and sales?

[hippifried]

Don't worry. President Trump will put the fear of God into all those satanic athiests, after Bernie's boo hoo babies sit at home pouting on election day instead of voting to keep America from sinking into an abyss of klan/nazi insanity we may not be able to climb out of.

[nitron]

be•el•ze•bub......the silent wind.(hehe).......ruler of this miserable nothing .... :( ) from Dante's poem, poor old Nick is more like part of His Majesties royal opposition? Just like atheists.....Anyway , I don't mean to be dissin your Theosophy..

[martin48]

You have to be very careful with this Satanism stuff - can pop up anywhere


http://www.landoverbaptist.org/eastereggs.html

[Stavros]

You have to be very careful with this Satanism stuff - can pop up anywhere


http://www.landoverbaptist.org/eastereggs.html

Martin is that satire, or one Pence's worth of 'Christian' propaganda?

[zerrrr]

He would prefer if you called him Hades.

Gets around all of that Catholic garbage that tends to muck everything up.

[nitron]

I wonder if like people, Satan or God/(s) feel alone?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfhV_BttK_g

[martin48]

God might, but in Hell there are so many fun things to do

[Erika1487]

As a professional Occultist I have read a great deal on Satanism and even practiced it for a while, To me the Levayan concept makes no sense but his bible is cool, The thestic side is much more interesting
Most interesting indeed..........

[Erika1487]

a religion made up by teens to look cool....sorry, just my opinion!
says an obvious christian

[trish]

The La Veyan Satan isn’t even real; the poor dude’s reduced to metaphor. The creed (created in the 60’s in California) is absolutely materialistic, naturalistic and atheistic. No soul, no supernatural, no life after death and no Satan. But just to lure in the suckers, Satan is thrown in a a metaphorical creature. He’s ‘symbolic’. Supposedly he symbolizes rationality. To me that’s like using a mushroom cloud to symbolize peace and love.

So what it does La Veyan offer? Hedonism, egoism, a dash of Ayn Rand style individualism, social Darwinism, and (in a flare for self-contradiction) self-deification. It specifically opposes the Golden Rule and egalitarianism. Some adherents argue for eugenics. ‘seems like the only difference between Satanism is the libertarian hard right is the mascot.

[martin48]

Just be careful who you open the front door to

[bluesoul]

"i'm so excited to see my lord and savior represented in such glorious italian stone. i do hope his eyes gaze upon me and my allegiance is recognized"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hopeFgwApCM

[nitron]

Dear Satan, how a leaf falls on the ground , it has free will. ..That it falls , I'll give you that.

Damn that war, showed what civilized people are capable of.

[trish]

"i'm so excited to see my lord and savior represented in such glorious italian stone. i do hope his eyes gaze upon me and my allegiance is recognized"

Acting, merely acting.

https://vimeo.com/15476780

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/the-peoples-court/n9487

[bluesoul]

yeah, he seemed to troll people that had silly interests that made nobody care about them: like gamers and satanists

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egV9yWMFuCE

[nitron]

God :



Ex nihilo is a Latin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin) phrase meaning "out of nothing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing)". It often appears in conjunction with the concept of creation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creationism), as in creatio ex nihilo, meaning "creation out of nothing", chiefly in philosophical or theological (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theology) contexts, but it also occurs in other fields.


.....Modern physical

A widely supported scientific theory (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory) in modern physics is the zero-energy universe (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-energy_universe) which states that the total amount of energy in the universe is exactly zero. It has been argued that this is the only kind of universe that could come from nothing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing_comes_from_nothing).[20] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_nihilo#cite_note-20) Such a universe would have to be flat (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_universe) in shape, a state which does not contradict current observations that the universe is flat with a 0.5% margin of error.[21] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_nihilo#cite_note-21)[22] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_nihilo#cite_note-22)
The paper "Spontaneous creation of the Universe Ex Nihilo" provides a model for a way the Universe could have been created from pure 'nothing' in information terms.[23]



MEMBER OF THE LOYAL OPPOSITION; "EVOLUTION WITHOUT END''.....

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_nihilo#cite_note-23)
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[hippifried]

GO TO HELL!

Now.

[sukumvit boy]

Thank you hippifried , I guess that means that you will continue to use your hand held magnifier of laser focused truth to fry the piss-ants of superstition and delusional thinking in their tracks.:pumped:

[Stavros]

God :
Ex nihilo is a Latin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin) phrase meaning "out of nothing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing)". It often appears in conjunction with the concept of creation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creationism), as in creatio ex nihilo, meaning "creation out of nothing", chiefly in philosophical or theological (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theology) contexts, but it also occurs in other fields.


The thread is about Satanism, derived from Satan, who post-dates God and therefore was not 'created out of nothing'.

[trish]

The phrase "widely supported" is certainly open to interpretation, but it's not the wording I would've used. There's a relatively recent paper (by Dongshang He et. al. https://arxiv.org/pdf/1404.1207.pdf ) describes a zero-energy model of a universe consistent with the Wheeler-DeWitt equation. This is a proof of mathematical consistency only. It demonstrates the spontaneous ex-nihilo appearance of a universe is mathematically consistent with the current theoretical constraints as we understand them. It doesn't pretend to demonstrate that spontaneously ex-nihilo appearance is the only possible scenario. Indeed many cosmologists are exploring other avenues. I know of no serious criticisms raised the Dongshang He paper. So one can say the consistency proof is widely supported, but not necessarily the model itself.

What any of this has to do with Satanism is a mystery: perhaps only that in terms of energy, it's consistent with physics (as currently understood) that our net worth (gods, angels and demons included) is equal to zero and it's also consistent that it isn't.

[broncofan]

I suppose my question is what state or origin of the universe isn't consistent with the existence of God or Satan? What physical state isn't consistent with the existence of a mythical entity who could create that state with its mythical powers? With the creations of God and Satan by man, you have all the tools you need to find consistency with anything. Have at it.

[broncofan]

I suppose my question is what state or origin of the universe isn't consistent with the existence of God or Satan? What physical state isn't consistent with the existence of a mythical entity who could create that state with its mythical powers? With the creations of God and Satan by man, you have all the tools you need to find consistency with anything. Have at it.
And I suppose I will add that my understanding of Trish' post is that consistent with means not contradicted by, but by no means proven or even likely.

[trish]

And I suppose I will add that my understanding of Trish' post is that consistent with means not contradicted by, but by no means proven or even likely.
Yes, though here (just to be clear) Dongshang He is referring to the consistency of a zero-energy fluctuation and its expansion into a universe being consistent with the laws of physics as now understood - not the consistency of any form of satanism or any sort of theology which has not been rigorously formulated.

[trish]

We've talked in this forum about Frank Tipler's Omega-Point theory of god. It's a perfect example of a consistent mathematical model with dubious application. Neither mathematics nor physics settles the question, "Is the Omega-Point God." Mathematics does tell us that even in models where the Omega-Point 'exists' it exists as an abstract idealization - not a physical point or object. Physics may eventually be able to tell us whether or not our universe is such a model. But the question "Do I want to interpret the Omega-Point as God?" is in the end, either a question for theologians, or a personal question for someone in a position to assess the literature.

[Stavros]

Scrape away the glossy religiosity and you discover that 'Satanism' has a place in European society as a challenge to an austere Christianity of priests preaching hell fire and damnation for sinners. The moral education of children into the evils of sin and temptation is presented as 'love for God' but in more practical terms was designed to prevent young people from being naughty, where this would mean lying, stealing, getting drunk, taking drugs and having sex before marriage.

This suffocating scaffold of moral laws created within Christian societies an underground resistance of naughty boys and girls who did want to get drunk and have sex before marriage, and thus one sees a sophisticated attempt to enshrine the glorious pleasures of the here and now into a religion diametrically opposed to Christianity, in which sin is preferred to piety, damnation preferred to salvation -for who wants their permanent orgy to end?

Two writers encapsulate this concept -in the 19th century Charles Baudelaire became famous as an uncontrollable hedonist, soaked in dope, obsessed with a black prostitute to whom he dedicated a cycle of poems, a dandy, a connoisseur of art and music -in his poem, designed to shock, Les Litanies de Satan there is this telling couplet:

Toi qui fais au proscrit ce regard calme et haut
Qui damne tout un peuple autour d'un échafaud.

Ô Satan, prends pitié de ma longue misère!

You, who gives the outcast the calm and haughty hold
he glares on the crowd around his scaffold

O Satan, have pity on my long misery!

In the 20th century, Jean Genet, born to a prostitute, fostered out, a petty thief imprisoned for the first time at the age of 15, became a writer whose novels subvert the Christian scaffold of moral law, notably with its presentation of petty crime and homosexual sex as a natural expression of the 'outcasts' of society who not only refuse to obey the rules, but delight in breaking them. In The Thief's Journal there is a passage in which Genet's description of the moment he steals is presented as being equivalent to ejaculation, that he feels at his most human when he is breaking human laws, stealing another human's property, violating his space.

In his later work, one that has alienated even his most ardent fans, Funeral Rites, he obsesses over the uniform of a Nazi SS officer as an object of sexual desire [Visconti also did this in his awful film The Damned], but the intention always was to provoke, though in his best works, Miracle of the Rose, The Thief's Journal, Our Lady of the Flowers, and Querelle of Brest, he does it with a language as illuminating and exquisite as the poetry of Baudelaire.

Both also have that key component of modernism in literature -the city as the locus of pleasure, particularly if the pleasure is illegal. To someone born in a small town or village, the city offers anonymity, the opportunity to sin, and to do so without punishment unless you are unlucky enough to be caught in flagrante delicto -indeed, Genet was thrown out of the Foreign Legion when he was discovered having sex with another man.

So all this panoply of religion and ritual is really just an elaborate cover for a simple desire to get laid and smoke a joint without caring what mum and dad, the local priest or law enforcement think. So many people do it, of all ages, you could get the impression that Satan is now as irrelevant as Jesus.

But don't tell Mr Sessions that, as he reverses the relaxation of sentencing for drug crimes that his predecessor Eric Holder introduced, determined to go back to 1986 and the ratching up of sentences for possession of narcotics, and throw even more Black and Latino Americans in prison.

Satan is back on the agenda, and he has a stool in the White House.

[Jericho]

Satan is back on the agenda, and he has a stool in the White House.

Would that be...No, nevermind!

[Erika1487]

GO TO HELL!

Now.

Gladly ;)

[Aticus100]

I can’t help but think people who say they are Satanists just want a little love and a lot of attention.

[zerrrr]

Someone is asking a few spiritual questions from the board. I cannot give direct answers because of major stuff going on behind the scenes and the Goddess in charge of this is not on this world or a known portion of the astral plane for reasons.

The answer to your primary question is no. For reasons above which will become very apparent next year. You are thinking in terms of this week where those upstairs are plotting on 5, 10, and 20 year timelines. So long as it does not affect the long-term timelines the issue is manageable and will clear itself up eventually. Just work through or around it. Contact Zeus for further information. He does not want you straying off path while a certain Goddess is off planet.

Certain occult oils will not be working the same due to a recent change in the meta. Too many individuals had uncontrolled access to certain spiritual and occult oils and were abusing them necessitating a change in the way they work. No excuses on the changes. Multiple deities approved the changes. Not even open for discussion. Instead of escalation, try dispute resolution. The changes are permanent. I have the same problem. People would rather fight over petty crap than discuss solutions to problems choosing to escalate when conversation will resolve the difference. I get forced to escalate when people refuse to listen which makes everyone angry. If we only decided that the process does not own us but rather step outside the box for a moment to take a fresh view.

In terms of what is happening in Hollywood and the adult side of the business, contact Persephone directly. She can handle it better from down below.

Have fun everyone!!!

[Jericho]

Certain occult oils will not be working the same due to a recent change in the meta.

Feeling you, bro.
Thos cunts at Nutella changed the recipe, too!

[buttslinger]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNlTwzPf-OE

[slave2u]

Feeling you, bro.
Thos cunts at Nutella changed the recipe, too!
Still tastes and looks like shit though

[Erika1487]

Satanic Prayers for Devotion


Satanic Prayer as a Spiritual Tool

Here are some prayers for Satan for you to use in your time of need. This essay is for those who want to develop a spiritual relationship with Satan through the devotional act of prayer. For Spiritual Satanists, prayer can help to connect you with the force of Satan. Prayer allows you to have a personal relationship with Satan that you can work on every day, both in the ritual room, and outside of ritual work.
Satanic devotional prayer can be a useful tool in your spiritual journey in Satanism. Anyone with a sincere desire to get closer to Satan can pray to him. All it takes is a heartfelt motivation to reach out to his force and make it a part of you. Hopefully these prayers for Satan can help you in your situation.
There are no set rules in Spiritual Satanism that state that prayer to Satan is required. But if you do chose to pray you have an opportunity to bond with Satan in a personal way. When a prayer is said to Satan, it is not just said with words; it is felt with the heart as well. Prayer is a form of communication with the spiritually divine.
Prayer can be considered without devotion. Satanic prayer can be used as a spiritual tool without having the need to worship Satan. In this way you can remain independent while still having the spiritual connection that you need to feel close to Satan.

How to Pray to Satan

Praying to Satan is not complicated. All you have to do is say the words not just in your mind but in your heart. Reaching out to Satan in this way allows you to have a spiritual connection. When you pray to Satan you are speaking to him and his force, not just at him. Your words are not lost; Satan knows what is in your heart.
Prayer is best done in a quiet place, away from anyone who might interrupt you. Your prayer does not have to be done in your ritual chamber. Take a few moments beforehand to focus and think and feel why you are about to pray.
When is the right time to pray to Satan?

Prayer can be used to strengthen your bond with Satan. It can be used to give you personal strength or when you are seeking reassurance or comfort. It can also be used to give you clarity in a situation or to receive guidance. Prayer can be done outside of the ritual chamber at any time you feel it is necessary.
If daily devotional prayer interests you, this Satanic prayer may be used during a moment when you have time alone to be with Satan. In this prayer you align yourself with the forces of Satan, Lucifer, Belial and Lilith.

Prayers for Satan

Prayer for The Praise of Satan’s Kingdom

Praise, Hail Satan!
Glory be to Satan the Father of the Earth
and to Lucifer our guiding light
and to Belial who walks between worlds
and to Lilith the queen of the night
As it was in the void of the beginning
Is now, and ever shall be, Satan’s kingdom without End
so it is done.

Satanist’s Creed

The Satanist’s Creed is another prayer that you can use for devotion or praise for Satan. This prayer seeks to establish your devotion to Satan. This prayer can also be said after you complete your Pact with Satan, to affirm your relationship with Satan.
I believe in the force of Satan
The father of the void
Ruler of the earth king of the world,
And in Lucifer, the guiding light and the morning star above.
And Lilith, who seeded the world with her creation
I believe I am my own church
I hold the spirit of Satan within my heart;
I was born without the stain of sin
my spirit is one with Satan
As it is now and ever will be,
So it is done.

Prayer to Satan for Power

Use this prayer in your time of need, when you feel that you need to be empowered by the spirit of Satan.
Satan, grant me the power to be strong in spirit
Grant me the ability to see what is right for me
Grant me the wisdom to understand your ways
Grant me the knowledge to empower myself
Power in the name of Satan to break the bonds that hold me back
Power in the name of Satan to overcome my weaknesses
Power in the name of Satan to be strong within
Grant me the ability to know what is right for me
Grant me the vision to have wisdom in your ways
I accept your guidance and wisdom
In the name of Satan

Prayer to Satan for Money

Satan is the god of the material world, so why not ask for assistance? While you could also use magic for the same purpose, perhaps this prayer will help as well.
Satan thank you for the riches you have brought to me
Bring me victory in my desire to grow in riches
O, Satan, ruler of the material world
bring your abundance and mercy
grant me that which I desire
Fill me with your power and spirit

Satan’s Prayer

A popular prayer that has been interpreted among Satanists for many years.
Our Father
Who art in Hell
Cursed be thy name
Thy kingdom upon earth has come
Thy will be done in hell as it is on earth
Grant us your power and might
And lead us into temptation
Deliver us unto evil
Thine is the kingdom of earth
The power and the glory
Forever and ever
So it is done.
Satanic Prayer Aligns you with the Force of Satan

Prayer can be a useful tool in your relationship with Satan. All you have to do is make a conscious effort to reach out and Satan will listen. Prayers for Satan really work. But consider that prayer is so much more than just asking for things; it is a spiritual communication between you and Satan, and your opportunity to grow closer to Satan every day.

[Stavros]

Another cut and paste job from Deutschland. Erika could have saved so much space by directing browsers and yowsers here-
https://www.spiritualsatanist.com/essays/satanism/satanicprayers.html

Nevertheless, I had a good laugh at what passes for devotion these days. Maybe, Erika, you should return to the USA from Germany and visit Roy Moore in his Alabama temple?

[Kira_love]

: Молиться: religion is a opium for the people

[Jericho]

: Молиться: religion is a opium for the people

More like, "the weapon of the uneducated"! :shrug

[nitron]

"The father of the void"...... no,
child of lesser God at best.
The Void is GREATER.

[trish]

What, the void needs worship, prayer and flattery now just like all the other shit gods? Fuck the void.

[Jericho]

What, the void needs worship, prayer and flattery now just like all the other shit gods? Fuck the void.

You shall be avoided for such blasphemies!

[SarahG]

Would that be...No, nevermind!

Yes, it would be. Stool in the medical sense, ---not the furniture sense.

[Erika1487]

1080050

[Stavros]

Although the attempt by 'Satanists' to erect a statue of 'Baphomet' in Little Rock, Arkansas did not succeed, even if it was only going to be temping there, the attention drawn to them has made me look again at this so-called religion, only to discover that like Scientology it is not really a religion at all.

First it seems there are variants of 'Satanism' and the one most people assume to be it, ie worship of the devil (hence the alternative name, Satan) is not what a lot of Satanists believe in. Rather, it is a peculiar sort of libertarian, anarchist movement derived from the ideas of Anton Szandor LaVey who created his 'church' in the 1960s, though it is not clear why he called it a 'Church'; or it a cult whose basic idea seems to be the freedom to get drunk, consume as many drugs as your body can take, and have lots and lots of sex, which used to be called 'My teenage years', maybe it still is.

So the next time you see Satanists trying to erect the statue of a 'deity' they don't actually believe in, tell them to pay their taxes, obey the law, and maybe keep their phoney religion to themselves?

I like this link, call it the 'bullshit' link if you like.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Satanist

The incident in Arkansas-
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/satanic-temple-arkansas-state-capitol-little-rock-baphomet-jason-rapert-ten-commandments-a8495576.html

A Satanist speaks-
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/satanist-reverend-religions-everything-know-facts-devil-worship-church-ashley-s-palmer-a7767641.html