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TSPornFan
05-20-2013, 06:22 AM
I rejoined the T-Girl Network a little over a week ago. I decided to see if Bailey Jay put any effort in improving her content. I found the opposite. Bailey doesn't talk in her videos anymore. I'm not sure when this started. I find this to be extremely weird because she is normally very hyper and laughing in videos.

What happen to her?

EvaCassini
05-20-2013, 06:47 AM
She got married and lives in bumfuck NY from what I believe to be the case via internet people. If you notice her site on the whole...the sets are either JUST her...or sometimes with her hubby, no one else. And her whole site layout is a bit ...odd. My honest opinion...there are too many of "her" around the headers and msg boxes, really the whole layout lol...i mean Yeah, it is her site but c'mon, it looks more like a crowded tumblr page, then a creative looking site layout. lmao

Ben
05-20-2013, 06:51 AM
Try her podcast. She talks a lot -- :)

http://baileyjayshow.libsyn.com/

GroobyKrissy
05-20-2013, 07:01 AM
Perhaps she found some free time and got inspired by watching The Artist.

Whether she talks or not in her videos, she still puts out more regular content than most of the other girls at that network so Bailey Jay Fans out there must be buying what she is selling!

EvaCassini
05-20-2013, 07:01 AM
hehehe from what I heard...she sounds very unintelligent and hypocritical, not to mention outrageously "hipster". I had her pinned as one of the girls I really look up to... but now, knowing what I know, she no longer is a role model to me.

Her and I are the same age, 24. She had an earlier start then I but she burnt out quick, like a candle in a vacuum tube.

Unlike her, I actually have initiative and professional background. She has stated that she can't work because she dropped out of High School at grade 9 ( i believe 8 or 9 ), and never got her GED, she went right into porn without any backup plan except to marry a bloke who can basically help support her ( it seems ) ( because that is how it look presently )

EvaCassini
05-20-2013, 07:18 AM
Perhaps she found some free time and got inspired by watching The Artist.

Whether she talks or not in her videos, she still puts out more regular content than most of the other girls at that network so Bailey Jay Fans out there must be buying what she is selling!

Actually...putting out content doesn't mean a thing.

I'll explain.

Person 1 - puts out content very frequently and consistently. But...not good quality anything. Not good performance, scene set up, dialogue, nor interactivity.

Person 2 - puts out content very frequently and consistently. But, the quality is spot on! There is interactive dialogue, great sound, perfect lighting, spot on angles, and performance that would receive an encore from a Broadway audience.

Person 3 - puts out great content but not serious about frequency and trying to be a force to reckon with, loses interest and then the quality of the content start to whither.

Person 4 - puts out dull and uninterested content maybe 5, maybe 6 times a year. Drops out and realizes they want to do other fields of work.

Person 5.............Does nothing porn related at all BUT makes a mean pepperoni pizza down on Cooper and Randall Mill! LMAO ( sry but had to include this part. Nizza Pizza is a great place in Arlington for great pizza!!! ;) )

That about...sums it up about content :) Bailey went from Person 2, to 3, to 1, then who knows maybe she'll become Person 4 in the near future...going at the rate she is going.

mac.B
05-20-2013, 07:20 AM
Things change bro. maybe there was a time where she felt that being Bailey Jay the pornstar was a new and exciting venture for her but hat time is probably over and she just does it for the money now.

EvaCassini
05-20-2013, 07:25 AM
Things change bro. maybe there was a time where she felt that being Bailey Jay the pornstar was a new and exciting venture for her but hat time is probably over and she just does it for the money now.

If she would be doing it for the money...would she not produce the best possible quality porn???

Not good porn...lose followers/customers...makes it hard to be in it for the money.... :geek:

GroobyKrissy
05-20-2013, 07:30 AM
Actually...putting out content doesn't mean a thing.

I'll explain.

Person 1 - puts out content very frequently and consistently. But...not good quality anything. Not good performance, scene set up, dialogue, nor interactivity.

Person 2 - puts out content very frequently and consistently. But, the quality is spot on! There is interactive dialogue, great sound, perfect lighting, spot on angles, and performance that would receive an encore from a Broadway audience.

Person 3 - puts out great content but not serious about frequency and trying to be a force to reckon with, loses interest and then the quality of the content start to whither.

Person 4 - puts out dull and uninterested content maybe 5, maybe 6 times a year. Drops out and realizes they want to do other fields of work.

Person 5.............Does nothing porn related at all BUT makes a mean pepperoni pizza down on Cooper and Randall Mill! LMAO ( sry but had to include this part. Nizza Pizza is a great place in Arlington for great pizza!!! ;) )

That about...sums it up about content :) Bailey went from Person 2, to 3, to 1, then who knows maybe she'll become Person 4 in the near future...going at the rate she is going.

Incorrect.

McDonald's.

g@meb0y
05-20-2013, 07:32 AM
This is such a tough thread to comment on, because Bailey was the first T-girl I absolutely went crazy over. And It's not like everything has gone down with her over the years. Her looks have definitely improved over the years, and she does way more costumes now then she did before. And I think the reason she doesn't talk in front of the videos anymore is because she has the podcast. Plus, not everybody likes the talking in front of porn videos. I know on TS Seduction vids I skip that stuff every time. Granted, I am sure that people out there really like getting to know their porn stars more, but I am not one of them, and maybe that's because I am a T-girl lover and not a T-girl myself.

TSMichelleAustin
05-20-2013, 07:34 AM
Who cares she still one of the top three solo sites on tgirl network. Who cares if the bitch coughs the whole video, she's making more then most with what she is doing. So u can't hate a bitch for doing her thing. People are still buying!!!

WendyWilliams
05-20-2013, 07:34 AM
Eva why every thread you try and make it about you.

TSPornFan
05-20-2013, 07:46 AM
Who cares she still one of the top three solo sites on tgirl network. Who cares if the bitch coughs the whole video, she's making more then most with what she is doing. So u can't hate a bitch for doing her thing. People are still buying!!!

I don't understand her fan base. She is the only pornstar who does nothing and gets away with it. She doesn't have "her thing" because she does nothing. Her videos have very terrible and unprofessional quality. Yet, people still buy her content. No other pornstar can get away with such things.

Now she doesn't say a word in her videos. That's extremely weird in a porn video. I have never seen a woman stay quite in a scene. It just doesn't happen in a normal scene.

I'm pretty sure alot of people would call out Jane Marie if she made a poor quality site and only did POV videos.

GroobyKrissy
05-20-2013, 07:54 AM
I don't understand her fan base. She is the only pornstar who does nothing and gets away with it. She doesn't have "her thing" because she does nothing. Her videos have very terrible and unprofessional quality. Yet, people still buy her content. No other pornstar can get away with such things.

Now she doesn't say a word in her videos. That's extremely weird in a porn video. I have never seen a woman stay quite in a scene. It just doesn't happen in a normal scene.

I'm pretty sure alot of people would call out Jane Marie if she made a poor quality site and only did POV videos.

I don't think you can take a solo site and apply the same criteria to it that you would hold a larger, mega-type site to... and that is where your problem is.

The point about Jane Marie is a moot point since she does not have a site herself so the comparison is invalid. The two operate completely differently from each other.

Solo sites are more about the relationship between the model and her Fans than anything else. It is the fantasy that draws people to sites like Bailey Jay's, not necessarily the quality of content. Bailey Jay is, and has been, remarkably good at selling "herself", and that is a powerful and addictive quality for fans.

I wouldn't presume to speak on behalf of Bailey Jay at all since I have never met her in person, but it would seem to me that she sees the purpose of her site as a stepping stone to collect fans and then convert them to her other projects... as opposed to the opposite. It is an interesting business model, but one that has clearly worked for her.

TSPornFan
05-20-2013, 08:09 AM
I don't think you can take a solo site and apply the same criteria to it that you would hold a larger, mega-type site to... and that is where your problem is.

The point about Jane Marie is a moot point since she does not have a site herself so the comparison is invalid. The two operate completely differently from each other.

Solo sites are more about the relationship between the model and her Fans than anything else. It is the fantasy that draws people to sites like Bailey Jay's, not necessarily the quality of content. Bailey Jay is, and has been, remarkably good at selling "herself", and that is a powerful and addictive quality for fans.

I wouldn't presume to speak on behalf of Bailey Jay at all since I have never met her in person, but it would seem to me that she sees the purpose of her site as a stepping stone to collect fans and then convert them to her other projects... as opposed to the opposite. It is an interesting business model, but one that has clearly worked for her.

Comparing Bailey and Jane is not the comparison. I can compare Bailey to every other girl on the T-Girl Network. Every other girl has quality videos and picture sets. They are active in their videos. They don't limit themselves to POV scenes.

I can take this another set Liberty Harkness and Joanna Jet have a variety of content on their sites. Joanna does shot some POV scenes. However, most of her videos are normal scenes.

Bailey Jay's business model is very different. The site doesn't focus on quality. The videos look like they were shot with a camera phone.

What is the fantasy that draws them? She doesn't do normal hardcore scenes. She no longer talks in her solo videos and her POV scenes with her husband. The majority of porn customers prefer normal shot videos over POV scenes.

EvaCassini
05-20-2013, 08:10 AM
Who cares she still one of the top three solo sites on tgirl network. Who cares if the bitch coughs the whole video, she's making more then most with what she is doing. So u can't hate a bitch for doing her thing. People are still buying!!!

I agree with Franklin, "her thing" is very transparent and ...if any girl praises to have content for porn, that is not good quality porn, ( i.e. cough throughout a video ) then what good is she for porn?


Eva why every thread you try and make it about you.

how am I doing that??? I am my own person and to use my experience and knowledge ( also collective knowledge via the roof I live under ), I can use that as knowledge to make well thought out comparisons. I have a very good source of knowledge, Jamie French. I learn from her a great deal. So, no ...my intent is not to make "every thread about me". It is quite odd that you make that assumption/accusation of me.


I don't understand her fan base. She is the only pornstar who does nothing and gets away with it. She doesn't have "her thing" because she does nothing. Her videos have very terrible and unprofessional quality. Yet, people still buy her content. No other pornstar can get away with such things.

Now she doesn't say a word in her videos. That's extremely weird in a porn video. I have never seen a woman stay quite in a scene. It just doesn't happen in a normal scene.

I'm pretty sure alot of people would call out Jane Marie if she made a poor quality site and only did POV videos.

:iagree: It's very bizarre that she "could" possibly do a video update for her site of her coughing, sneezing, punching holes in walls, and farting and still make sales ( but not for long at all )...but as far as her content goes, it is a very big difference of her from 2-3 yrs ago to now.
Hell, I would never subscribe to a pornsite for a girl, spending my hard earned cash on a girl's site that produces low quality porn. No matter how pretty or cute she is. If a girl brings nothing to the table i.e. quality, innovation, and/or initiative, then why spend my money on her?

runround04
05-20-2013, 08:12 AM
Move to upstate NY and see if you dont get a little depressed and stop talking, sucks ass here lol

EvaCassini
05-20-2013, 08:14 AM
Move to upstate NY and see if you dont get a little depressed and stop talking, sucks ass here lol

hahaha nice! :)

Cecil Rhodes
05-20-2013, 08:15 AM
hehehe from what I heard...she sounds very unintelligent and hypocritical, not to mention outrageously "hipster". I had her pinned as one of the girls I really look up to... but now, knowing what I know, she no longer is a role model to me.

Her and I are the same age, 24. She had an earlier start then I but she burnt out quick, like a candle in a vacuum tube.

Unlike her, I actually have initiative and professional background. She has stated that she can't work because she dropped out of High School at grade 9 ( i believe 8 or 9 ), and never got her GED, she went right into porn without any backup plan except to marry a bloke who can basically help support her ( it seems ) ( because that is how it look presently )

More like a Cucumber in a Penis Pump you mean .

EvaCassini
05-20-2013, 08:19 AM
More like a Cucumber in a Penis Pump you mean .

I don't quite understand... lol...did you just come up with that one? :p

TSPornFan
05-20-2013, 08:20 AM
:iagree: It's very bizarre that she "could" possibly do a video update for her site of her coughing, sneezing, punching holes in walls, and farting and still make sales ( but not for long at all )...but as far as her content goes, it is a very big difference of her from 2-3 yrs ago to now.


Her site's quality hasn't changed. She has always produced poor quality videos. Her site's poor quality isn't anything new. It's just getting worse and worse. She has not shown any signs of improvement as a pornstar.

EvaCassini
05-20-2013, 08:24 AM
Her site's quality hasn't changed. She has always produced poor quality videos. Her site's poor quality isn't anything new. It's just getting worse and worse. She has not shown any signs of improvement as a pornstar.

Right, but i meant her "giddiness" and "appeal of fun" has slipped through the cracks somewhere and died from where she was ( with any scene from other sites or DVDs ), to now ( her site...which is the only place to get any new content )

GroobyKrissy
05-20-2013, 08:25 AM
Comparing Bailey and Jane is not the comparison. I can compare Bailey to every other girl on the T-Girl Network. Every other girl has quality videos and picture sets. They are active in their videos. They don't limit themselves to POV scenes.

I can take this another set Liberty Harkness and Joanna Jet have a variety of content on their sites. Joanna does shot some POV scenes. However, most of her videos are normal scenes.

Bailey Jay's business model is very different. The site doesn't focus on quality. The videos look like they were shot with a camera phone.

What is the fantasy that draws them? She doesn't do normal hardcore scenes. She no longer talks in her solo videos and her POV scenes with her husband. The majority of porn customers prefer normal shot videos over POV scenes.

This is an issue of superimposing your expectations on everyone else.

Bailey Jay has always been a "silly" type girl, and I mean that in the best way possible. She plays up and sells the "cute," "quirky," "over-the-top" aspect of herself perfectly and her Fans like that about her.

As for the fantasy... Well, each individual is different, which is why you can't take your fantasy about her and assume it is the same for everyone else.

Obviously, she is not reaching out to people via hardcore scenes for a reason and has reached and built a fan base around shooting POV content and solo scenes. Since that is a remarkably difficult thing to do, I would say she should be congratulated on achieving success using that model rather than the "normal" route.

Anyway, I can already calculate the response and agree to disagree.

mac.B
05-20-2013, 08:26 AM
If she would be doing it for the money...would she not produce the best possible quality porn???

Not good porn...lose followers/customers...makes it hard to be in it for the money.... :geek:


Nope...This is tgirl porn where quality of product really doesnt matter. As lone as her members continue to get to see her naked then she'll continue to have them.

TSPornFan
05-20-2013, 08:29 AM
This is an issue of superimposing your expectations on everyone else.

Bailey Jay has always been a "silly" type girl, and I mean that in the best way possible. She plays up and sells the "cute," "quirky," "over-the-top" aspect of herself perfectly and her Fans like that about her.

As for the fantasy... Well, each individual is different, which is why you can't take your fantasy about her and assume it is the same for everyone else.

Obviously, she is not reaching out to people via hardcore scenes for a reason and has reached and built a fan base around shooting POV content and solo scenes. Since that is a remarkably difficult thing to do, I would say she should be congratulated on achieving success using that model rather than the "normal" route.

Anyway, I can already calculate the response and agree to disagree.

That's the problem. She is no longer using the silly, cute, barely legal, over-the-top image.

It's true everyone has different fantasies. It's hard to see your fantasy when a girl does nothing. That's another problem. Fantasies aren't being fulfilled.

TSPornFan
05-20-2013, 08:30 AM
Nope...This is tgirl porn where quality of product really doesnt matter. As lone as her members continue to get to see her naked then she'll continue to have them.

That is so true. I wish there were more TS customers like us who are open about the poor quality in TS porn.

Cecil Rhodes
05-20-2013, 08:31 AM
I don't quite understand... lol...did you just come up with that one? :p

You are the one that said Candle in a Vacuum Tube .

ew86riv
05-20-2013, 08:31 AM
others might not agree, but i feel like bailey represents what the ts niche is about. what i mean by that is that there are very few ts's who are true pornstars. a true pornstar to me is someone that remains active, and puts out content on a regular basis for multiple sites. outside of girls like foxxy, vaniity, eva lin, and some others a lot of girls don't shoot that much. i believe the niche has more ts's that do porn as opposed to ts pornstars. maybe that's why someone like bailey doesn't put forth a great product. just something to make some money off of.

TSPornFan
05-20-2013, 08:34 AM
others might not agree, but i feel like bailey represents what the ts niche is about. what i mean by that is that there are very few ts's who are true pornstars. a true pornstar to me is someone that remains active, and puts out content on a regular basis for multiple sites. outside of girls like foxxy, vaniity, eva lin, and some others a lot of girls don't shoot that much. i believe the niche has more ts's that do porn as opposed to ts pornstars. maybe that's why someone like bailey doesn't put forth a great product. just something to make some money off of.

Bailey Jay isn't a true pornstar. A true pornstar does normal hardcore scenes. That's applies to both genetic females and transsexual females. A true pornstar talks during her scenes, not to be completely silent and lifeless.

GroobyKrissy
05-20-2013, 08:36 AM
That's the problem. She is no longer using the silly, cute, barely legal, over-the-top image.

It's true everyone has different fantasies. It's hard to see your fantasy when a girl does nothing. That's another problem. Fantasies aren't being fulfilled.

Bold in above, mine.

This is my point. Honestly, until you've actually been a model, you really have no idea about the droll and pointless things that turn people on. I've been asked to film myself:

driving (just driving... nothing else)
painting my nails (specifically down to the exact color and brush stroke)
eating food
putting on make-up
reading a book
SLEEPING (now there is the definition of doing nothing) - actually a fairly popular request

...and the list goes on and on. The point being, YOUR fantasy is not going to be the same as someone else. Obviously Bailey Jay is fulfilling someone's fantasies or else she would be left without any Members, something that has already been stated as untrue (Michelle's post). She may not be fulfilling yours specifically but someone out there is buying.

There is nothing wrong with you not liking her current content just as there is nothing wrong with her making it.

EvaCassini
05-20-2013, 08:38 AM
Nope...This is tgirl porn where quality of product really doesnt matter. As lone as her members continue to get to see her naked then she'll continue to have them.

So if TS porn was shot with a cheap phone camera and the quality sucks, and its just her jackin it into the trash can ( but keep in mind that the terrible quality of the picture and sound make it hard to judge what the hell she is honestly doing but the TITLE does says "Cute Tgirl cums in trash can") and then also makes no point to say anything good or look directly at the camera and never smile...............Is that what you want? If so, then Ima be fuckin rich! LMMFAO :p

GroobyKrissy
05-20-2013, 08:38 AM
Bailey Jay isn't a true pornstar. A true pornstar does normal hardcore scenes. That's applies to both genetic females and transsexual females. A true pornstar talks during her scenes, not to be completely silent and lifeless.

Say what now? :hide-1:

ew86riv
05-20-2013, 08:39 AM
Bailey Jay isn't a true pornstar. A true pornstar does normal hardcore scenes. That's applies to both genetic females and transsexual females. A true pornstar talks during her scenes, not to be completely silent and lifeless.

i'm agreeing with you here. i don't think she is either.

EvaCassini
05-20-2013, 08:43 AM
You are the one that said Candle in a Vacuum Tube .

Ohhhhhhh! LMAO I get it now! thanks hun :)

Cecil Rhodes
05-20-2013, 08:47 AM
Ohhhhhhh! LMAO I get it now! thanks hun :)

I was also to comment on Bailey transforming before you by posting that pic of you in the Navy .

EvaCassini
05-20-2013, 08:51 AM
...........I never posted a pic of me in the navy here....

TSPornFan
05-20-2013, 08:52 AM
Bold in above, mine.

This is my point. Honestly, until you've actually been a model, you really have no idea about the droll and pointless things that turn people on. I've been asked to film myself:

driving (just driving... nothing else)
painting my nails (specifically down to the exact color and brush stroke)
eating food
putting on make-up
reading a book
SLEEPING (now there is the definition of doing nothing) - actually a fairly popular request

...and the list goes on and on. The point being, YOUR fantasy is not going to be the same as someone else. Obviously Bailey Jay is fulfilling someone's fantasies or else she would be left without any Members, something that has already been stated as untrue (Michelle's post). She may not be fulfilling yours specifically but someone out there is buying.

There is nothing wrong with you not liking her current content just as there is nothing wrong with her making it.

You have a point about the fantasies. So someone's fantasies are being fulfilled.

bluesoul
05-20-2013, 08:59 AM
I was also to comment on Bailey transforming before you by posting that pic of you in the Navy .


...........I never posted a pic of me in the navy here....

http://martingrams.biz/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Rod-Serling-The-Twilight-Zone.jpg

"you are about to enter another dimension, a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind. a journey into a wondrous land of imagination. next stop - hung angels"

Jamie French
05-20-2013, 09:00 AM
The prettier you are the less work you have to do. A story as old as the ocean is wet. I don't understand why anything else need be said.

Cecil Rhodes
05-20-2013, 09:06 AM
...........I never posted a pic of me in the navy here....

It is a pic I have .

Willie Escalade
05-20-2013, 09:21 AM
The prettier you are the less work you have to do. A story as old as the ocean is wet. I don't understand why anything else need be said.
Ain't it the truth?

Cecil Rhodes
05-20-2013, 09:27 AM
I found that pic of Eva taken while she was in the Navy .

http://www.rcsinnovations.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Popeye_the_Sailor_Moon_by_The_Shadowed_Angel.jpg

EvaCassini
05-20-2013, 09:28 AM
http://martingrams.biz/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Rod-Serling-The-Twilight-Zone.jpg

"you are about to enter another dimension, a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind. a journey into a wondrous land of imagination. next stop - hung angels"


HAHAHA! nice


It is a pic I have .

ok how did you come across it?

GroobySteven
05-20-2013, 09:36 AM
The prettier you are the less work you have to do. A story as old as the ocean is wet. I don't understand why anything else need be said.

I disagree with this in terms of tgirl porn. BJ is not as traditionally "pretty" as some of the other solo girls on their network who under-perform on their sites.

Cecil Rhodes
05-20-2013, 09:39 AM
You mentioned your ship and I checked the crew listing . I also found out that NCIS has you listed as a suspect for a series of offenses . ONI was assisting them . You were discharge just before they closed in .

The pic is posted below .

GroobySteven
05-20-2013, 09:41 AM
Bailey Jay has always been a divisive model, even when her first sets came out. I'm much more a fan of her geeky, cos-play, cute girl next door image from when she first appeared - but that's just MY PERSONAL opinion. There were plenty of people then who didn't like her sets.
Bailey has a unique quality that comes through in her sets and it's for this reason people keep buying. I've seen the comments about image or video quality and this amateur/lack of professional look, may be working for her. Clearly, it's not going to work for someone like Franklin who has completely different needs and expectations of their porn.

Bailey Jay still outperforms any other SMC Network site for us, the only one that ever came close was Mandy Mitchell.

Maybe instead of being so critical people should take note of her site as it's clearly working.

EvaCassini
05-20-2013, 09:43 AM
I found that pic of Eva taken while she was in the Navy .

http://www.rcsinnovations.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Popeye_the_Sailor_Moon_by_The_Shadowed_Angel.jpg

uhhhh...thats not me, looks nothing like me ( as when I was in the Navy )

this is more like it... ( keep in mind I dont do this for just anyone ;) ) LMMFAO!

Cecil Rhodes
05-20-2013, 09:45 AM
Bailey Jay has always been a divisive model, even when her first sets came out. I'm much more a fan of her geeky, cos-play, cute girl next door image from when she first appeared - but that's just MY PERSONAL opinion. There were plenty of people then who didn't like her sets.
Bailey has a unique quality that comes through in her sets and it's for this reason people keep buying. I've seen the comments about image or video quality and this amateur/lack of professional look, may be working for her. Clearly, it's not going to work for someone like Franklin who has completely different needs and expectations of their porn.

Bailey Jay still outperforms any other SMC Network site for us, the only one that ever came close was Mandy Mitchell.

Maybe instead of being so critical people should take note of her site as it's clearly working.

It's the TRAP thing that does/did it for her .

steeveX
05-20-2013, 10:14 AM
I rejoined the T-Girl Network a little over a week ago. I decided to see if Bailey Jay put any effort in improving her content. I found the opposite. Bailey doesn't talk in her videos anymore. I'm not sure when this started. I find this to be extremely weird because she is normally very hyper and laughing in videos.

What happen to her?

Since you state you are a member of her site did it ever occur to you you could ask her these questions yourself? As far as my knowledge goes (I could be wrong) she isn't a member of this forum, maybe some people she works with are, I honestly don't know. I am pretty sure on her site, which I am no member of, there is some sort of feedback possibility, like an e-mail adress, online form or forum.

Otherwise, I have difficulties to understand what the purpose of this thread is supposed to be.

Jamie French
05-20-2013, 10:22 AM
Contrarian.


I disagree with this in terms of tgirl porn. BJ is not as traditionally "pretty" as some of the other solo girls on their network who under-perform on their sites.

Willie Escalade
05-20-2013, 10:46 AM
Since you state you are a member of her site did it ever occur to you you could ask her these questions yourself? As far as my knowledge goes (I could be wrong) she isn't a member of this forum, maybe some people she works with are, I honestly don't know. I am pretty sure on her site, which I am no member of, there is some sort of feedback possibility, like an e-mail adress, online form or forum.

Otherwise, I have difficulties to understand what the purpose of this thread is supposed to be.

Last I heard, she cut that out. The feedback section and the forum, that is. Haven't been a member in awhile so maybe it has changed.

Most site owners listen to criticism...key word being MOST.

giovanni_hotel
05-20-2013, 10:46 AM
Bailey Jay is IMO the most popular TS among guys who claim NOT to be into tgirls. In many ways she's the most mainstream because of her radio media appearances.

Bailey's a girl who many straight guys will say they really vibe and could see themselves with, but then claim they don't like tgirls in general.

When an entirely new internet term is coined because of YOU, 'linetrap', you have a presence that most girls don't.

Bribi
05-20-2013, 10:55 AM
Maybe she's a bit tired of the porn industry and try to slowly move on.
She has her podcast, she maybe (I don't know) have other things planned.
I admit that with time, I went a bit over me (is that an expression? What I mean is that she used to be my fav, and now, I enjoy her but that's it).
Listenning to her podcast can actually do that :D Not the most interesting/smartest podcast.

Eva, I think you're a bit harsh.
Saying that she burnt out quick, maybe it's a choice. And then, with all due respect, you're not the equal of what Bailey used to be. Bailey Jay is HUGE in the TS industry. She is probably one of the 3 most known.

EvaCassini
05-20-2013, 11:43 AM
i never said i was equal or greater than her porn related. im not being harsh, I am stating facts and most probable explanations.

All i said was that I have more life experience then her even though we are the same AGE, when I was making those comparisons.

Of coarse it is a choice but a choice that has been made, she does her own thing now and stays happy with her husband and she chooses to do the porn she does now because thats her decision. I am not crapping on her, just saying that she did so many things and now its just her website, as dull as it is, but thatswhat she wants and hey, if she is making cash from that...fuck...more power to her. :)

Also ..."with all do respect" doesn't necessarily give you any "easier leeway" to say something "harsh" like you did. That was hurtful AND disrespectful. And sure she is one of the most well known, because she was one of the TS's that took advantage of the "Tranny Internet" boom around 2007/2008! Especially with her "linetrap" deal, that is basically dead now, being as big as she is.

WendyWilliams
05-20-2013, 11:51 AM
Facts are not "I heard around the internet or other people told me" LOL

Bribi
05-20-2013, 12:08 PM
But I didn't meant to be harsh and disrespectful.
I just think that Bailey deserves more respect than you gave her because she is one of the bigger names in the industry.
"Her and I are the same age, 24. She had an earlier start then I but she burnt out quick, like a candle in a vacuum tube." -> that is a comparison.

If I hurt you, I apologize.

GroobySteven
05-20-2013, 12:32 PM
Contrarian.

A word for today. Let's see if I can use it.

EvaCassini
05-20-2013, 12:41 PM
Facts are not "I heard around the internet or other people told me" LOL

Never said that the "hearsay" was FACT...that that you mentioned, that I mentioned is what I clarified as "most probable explanations"
...are you just out to get me or something? trying to pick everything, and take certain things out context to deface my image?
I don't understand Wendy, I've never done anything wrong to you or hurt you at all.
If you'd like me to sit here and match each thing I said to either be a fact/industry stuff or something about Bailey/"most probable explanations"? As far as it is, that would be a very long post to itemize.



But I didn't meant to be harsh and disrespectful.
I just think that Bailey deserves more respect than you gave her because she is one of the bigger names in the industry.
"Her and I are the same age, 24. She had an earlier start then I but she burnt out quick, like a candle in a vacuum tube." -> that is a comparison.

If I hurt you, I apologize.

You know, I DID have a lot of respect for her, and to some small extant, I still do as a person and as a "trail blazer" for TS girls in porn...BUT when I find out certain things, that a person has disrespected me, is unintelligent, and has no drive, and no motivation to achieve greater things in life...I tend to start losing that respect for said person. Like I said, she was a role-model for me, now she's not. I have others to look up to. :)

Bribi
05-20-2013, 12:44 PM
Ok, fair enough
Again sorry if I hurt you

WendyWilliams
05-20-2013, 12:53 PM
"deface your image" LOL Eva you are a newcomer to the Industry you have no "image" just yet. You are the girlfriend of a popular creative model with a banging site. Im not out to get you. However lately every thread you can hijack with ME ME ME has become annoying. Next you were being rude and just nasty about Bailey whom you know NOTHING about but what people say on the "internet".

So I am not out to get you. Just lately you are so self absorbed and full of yourself its annoying and I decided to comment about it. So if you want to belittle someone then don't get made and cranky when people take up for that person and call out your "explanations". Its called conversation :)

These are just a few examples of you hijacking this thread and insulting her NOT probable explanations:

hehehe from what I heard...she sounds very unintelligent and hypocritical, not to mention outrageously "hipster".

Her and I are the same age, 24. She had an earlier start then I but she burnt out quick, like a candle in a vacuum tube.

Unlike her, I actually have initiative and professional background

EvaCassini
05-20-2013, 12:57 PM
"deface your image" LOL Eva you are a newcomer to the Industry you have no "image" just yet. You are the girlfriend of a popular creative model with a banging site. Im not out to get you. However lately every thread you can hijack with ME ME ME has become annoying. Next you were being rude and just nasty about Bailey whom you know NOTHING about but what people say on the "internet".

So I am not out to get you. Just lately you are so self absorbed and full of yourself its annoying and I decided to comment about it. So if you want to belittle someone then don't get made and cranky when people take up for that person and call out your "explanations". Its called conversation :)

Everyone...has an image. And HOW am I "hijacking" EVERY thread with ME ME ME??? Most threads I post in I converse about the topic.

I am not being rude or nasty to/about Bailey.

WendyWilliams
05-20-2013, 12:58 PM
the prettier you are the less work you have to do. A story as old as the ocean is wet. I don't understand why anything else need be said.

hit the nail on the head

EvaCassini
05-20-2013, 01:05 PM
These are just a few examples of you hijacking this thread and insulting her NOT probable explanations:

hehehe from what I heard...she sounds very unintelligent and hypocritical, not to mention outrageously "hipster".

Her and I are the same age, 24. She had an earlier start then I but she burnt out quick, like a candle in a vacuum tube.

Unlike her, I actually have initiative and professional background


1. "from what I heard"....LISTENING TO HER SHOW and READING HER TWEETS!!!

2. "burnt out quick"....Don't see much of her now do ya?

3. "unlike her".... this is true, she's done nothing but internet vids and porn since about 2007/2008.



BTW...How is THAT HIJACKING for ME ME ME?!?!?! Who else to make better comparisons then one's self. And it is NOT my intent to make it """ME ME ME, LOOK AT ME IM EVA CASSINI""".....That's fucking stupid, and I don't do that.

Corran
05-20-2013, 01:18 PM
That comparison about her being a bigger name that Eva was totally inappropiate because Bailey has been around for years and Eva is just starting. Some time in the future Eva could (should) be just as big of a superstar as Bailey. Just sayin'.
As for Bailey, I'll watch her porn if I'm out of sleeping pills. Even in her heyday, when she was working for Evil Angel I found her boring. Is she hot? Fuck yea! I get why other people are crazy about her. But like I said she's just not a great performer and now that everything she does is shot in POV (poorly shot POV at that) I don't watch her at all..unless I need a sleep aid. But I also understand how that may be someone elses' thing.

Cecil Rhodes
05-20-2013, 01:18 PM
Wendy said Deface ... .. and hit the nail on the head .... .lol

Cecil Rhodes
05-20-2013, 01:22 PM
That comparison about her being a bigger name that Eva was totally inappropiate because Bailey has been around for years and Eva is just starting. Some time in the future Eva could (should) be just as big of a superstar as Bailey. Just sayin'.
As for Bailey, I'll watch her porn if I'm out of sleeping pills. Even in her heyday, when she was working for Evil Angel I found her boring. Is she hot? Fuck yea! I get why other people are crazy about her. But like I said she's just not a great performer and now that everything she does is shot in POV (poorly shot POV at that) I don't watch her at all..unless I need a sleep aid. But I also understand how that may be someone elses' thing.

Hey, Bailey busted Bea's Ass on more than one occasion . I don't think I've seen anyone else do that .

Corran
05-20-2013, 01:24 PM
I saw a scene with Bee and Bailey for EA. IMHO Bailey didn't do that good at fucking her. Just looked at the camera and giggled a lot.

Cecil Rhodes
05-20-2013, 01:25 PM
I saw a scene with Bee and Bailey for EA. IMHO Bailey didn't do that good at fucking her. Just looked at the camera and giggled a lot.

But Bea's Butt still got Busted

Corran
05-20-2013, 01:27 PM
Busted badly lol (Is Bee even still around?)

Cecil Rhodes
05-20-2013, 01:35 PM
Busted badly lol (Is Bee even still around?)

not the adult industry

steeveX
05-20-2013, 01:41 PM
Everyone...has an image. And HOW am I "hijacking" EVERY thread with ME ME ME??? Most threads I post in I converse about the topic.

I am not being rude or nasty to/about Bailey.

Sure you make every thread you post to be about you - sooner or later. Just by replying very often in them. To me that's not a bad thing, after all you seem to be under the pressure to make a name for yourself in tranny pron very quickly.

At the same time reactions towards your presence on here show the usual suspects to be jealous.

As for being annoying, people with a strong will will ignore you, those with a weaker mind will use the ignore button and those with the weakest minds will follow you around and complain.

It has been like this on this forum (minus the ignore function) since 2004, when I first joined.

Wendy Summers
05-20-2013, 01:43 PM
And it is NOT my intent to make it """ME ME ME, LOOK AT ME IM EVA CASSINI""".....That's fucking stupid, and I don't do that.

It may not be your intent but you do it often enough there's a pattern. I honestly believe you are oblivious to it. A simple rule to consider: if you enter a thread about ANY other model and mention yourself, you've probably crossed a line. Hell enter a thread of another model where you're doing anything but saying "awesome work" comes across as classless.

AND... with that said back to the OP.

Franklin, your staring from a false assumption that Bailey WANTS to be a porn star. She arrived on TS porn like a lightening strike: perfect time and perfect place and with an "is she/ isn't she" mythos which I doubt can ever be repeated. For many guys, she's the first introduction to TSs they ever had. She is a "trap" personified: beautiful, blends in easily and a charming personality. Add in that she's been relatively savy about image and she's done quite well and will continue to do quite well.

Her porn's not your style. Move along. She's got her eyes set on other things.

steeveX
05-20-2013, 01:52 PM
Last I heard, she cut that out. The feedback section and the forum, that is. Haven't been a member in awhile so maybe it has changed.

Most site owners listen to criticism...key word being MOST.

I run a business myself so I think I know what you are talking about. Regarding criticism that is. So, assuming Baily Jay or whoever is mainly responsible for her pron and website not reacting to criticism leaves only two possibilities:

A) business is good enough, so no need to change things

B) Baily and/or peeps involved with her site dont care enough to have things changed/improved.

Of course, you will not get any answer from the involved parties whatsoever.

dante
05-20-2013, 07:31 PM
Franklin you are a faggot

TSPornFan
05-20-2013, 07:34 PM
Bailey Jay has always been a divisive model, even when her first sets came out. I'm much more a fan of her geeky, cos-play, cute girl next door image from when she first appeared - but that's just MY PERSONAL opinion. There were plenty of people then who didn't like her sets.
Bailey has a unique quality that comes through in her sets and it's for this reason people keep buying. I've seen the comments about image or video quality and this amateur/lack of professional look, may be working for her. Clearly, it's not going to work for someone like Franklin who has completely different needs and expectations of their porn.

Bailey Jay still outperforms any other SMC Network site for us, the only one that ever came close was Mandy Mitchell.

Maybe instead of being so critical people should take note of her site as it's clearly working.

I have a slight problem with this belief. It doesn't matter which T-Girl solo site you may go to buy a membership from. If the person wants the entire network then he will buy it regardless of which site it may be from. At the end of the day he will have access to every site.

You also don't get free previews or traditional scene trailers. People are sorta blindly joining her site. You can't noticed from the non-members area that she doesn't perform in normal hardcore scenes. Unless a person reads this forum then he may not know how her site is set up.

I am more curious about her retention rate.

youngblood61
05-20-2013, 07:59 PM
Maybe she is just bored.:)

GroobySteven
05-20-2013, 08:44 PM
Franklin you are a faggot

You've been skirting close to the edge for a while.
Final warning.

GroobySteven
05-20-2013, 08:47 PM
I am more curious about her retention rate.


Retention is fair - but not as good as Mandy's (whom I'm not even sure is updating).
Bailey's site converts for me at 1:738 compared to any other site on their network being from 1:1500 - 1:10,000, so I disagree with you're "going in blind" - you're wrong, surfers are smarter and they want what she offers.

Once again, just because something doesn't suit your style, you project and assume incorrectly.

mac.B
05-20-2013, 08:58 PM
So if TS porn was shot with a cheap phone camera and the quality sucks, and its just her jackin it into the trash can ( but keep in mind that the terrible quality of the picture and sound make it hard to judge what the hell she is honestly doing but the TITLE does says "Cute Tgirl cums in trash can") and then also makes no point to say anything good or look directly at the camera and never smile...............Is that what you want? If so, then Ima be fuckin rich! LMMFAO :p

Bailey Jay has a fanbase that enjoys watching her specifically and will watch almost any vidoe regardless of action or video quality. A lot of ts lovers do that as ts porn is more about the girls and less about the action. Now, that doesnt mean that the consumer enjoys the product that features the girl but how else will he be able to see her.

TSPornFan
05-20-2013, 09:11 PM
Bailey Jay has a fanbase that enjoys watching her specifically and will watch almost any vidoe regardless of action or video quality. A lot of ts lovers do that as ts porn is more about the girls and less about the action. Now, that doesnt mean that the consumer enjoys the product that features the girl but how else will he be able to see her.

Pretty much this. Seanchi and many others summed it up again. Bailey Jay doesn't need to change anything. It is working for her. She has no motivation to improve her site's quality because members will buy memberships.

It is so fascinating that she is the only pornstar who can get away with this. Hopefully she doesn't start a trend.

Corran
05-20-2013, 09:24 PM
Bailey Jay has a fanbase that enjoys watching her specifically and will watch almost any vidoe regardless of action or video quality. A lot of ts lovers do that as ts porn is more about the girls and less about the action. Now, that doesnt mean that the consumer enjoys the product that features the girl but how else will he be able to see her.

I'd watch Venus Lux reading the dictionary so I see where you're coming from.

Willie Escalade
05-20-2013, 09:37 PM
I'd watch Venus Lux reading the dictionary so I see where you're coming from.
LOL...but I agree!
:iagree:

Anubis1779
05-20-2013, 09:42 PM
I lost interest in her a while ago because her content sucks, in a bad way. I agree w. Eva's comment about her trying to be a super-hipster. No one is impressed by that BS.

Cecil Rhodes
05-20-2013, 09:44 PM
I'd watch Venus Lux reading the dictionary so I see where you're coming from.

Talk about a TRAP . ,,,,,, smile

GroobySteven
05-20-2013, 09:47 PM
It is so fascinating that she is the only pornstar who can get away with this. Hopefully she doesn't start a trend.

If the trend is appealing to and keeping her fans happy - then I'm all for it, however it works. Wendy Summers, Jamie French, Amy Daly, Venus Lux etc. all appeal to different people and as long as they continue to keep their fans happy then good for them. There are solo models who've changed their looks so far from the fanbase that it's little wonder their sites have failed.

Merkurie
05-20-2013, 11:11 PM
Believe it or not some people are not turned on watching other random guys fuck the shit out of their "dreamgirls". Buying a solo site membership is entering into a fantasy relationship with a girl, especially when there is lots of other more economical or even free content of her around.

Willie Escalade
05-20-2013, 11:27 PM
Believe it or not some people are not turned on watching other random guys fuck the shit out of their "dreamgirls". Buying a solo site membership is entering into a fantasy relationship with a girl, especially when there is lots of other more economical or even free content of her around.
This. And she does do constant updates, unlike some of the other girls...:ignore:

TSPornFan
05-20-2013, 11:36 PM
Believe it or not some people are not turned on watching other random guys fuck the shit out of their "dreamgirls". Buying a solo site membership is entering into a fantasy relationship with a girl, especially when there is lots of other more economical or even free content of her around.

A solo site doesn't automatically means solo scenes. Most solo sites have a mixture of hardcore and solo scenes.

I've never felt being in a fantasy relationship with any solo site's girl. Most girls don't accept requests. Thankfully Isa from SMC did hook me up with a few requests/

BellaBellucci
05-20-2013, 11:45 PM
hehehe from what I heard...she sounds very unintelligent and hypocritical, not to mention outrageously "hipster". I had her pinned as one of the girls I really look up to... but now, knowing what I know, she no longer is a role model to me.

Her and I are the same age, 24. She had an earlier start then I but she burnt out quick, like a candle in a vacuum tube.

Unlike her, I actually have initiative and professional background. She has stated that she can't work because she dropped out of High School at grade 9 ( i believe 8 or 9 ), and never got her GED, she went right into porn without any backup plan except to marry a bloke who can basically help support her ( it seems ) ( because that is how it look presently )

But, you know... no judgement. :lol:

Bailey's got a good head on her shoulders. I think you underestimate her. I'm sure she'll work it out for herself.

~BB~

pantic
05-20-2013, 11:59 PM
Can anyone send me that scene that bailey done with matt, where he was being nasty to her and calling her a slut and that, its like 20mins long and near the end they fuck on the sofa

kukm4
05-21-2013, 12:04 AM
Can anyone send me that scene that bailey done with matt, where he was being nasty to her and calling her a slut and that, its like 20mins long and near the end they fuck on the sofa

You can find it here
http://ts-baileyjay.com/

pantic
05-21-2013, 12:06 AM
Can you give me your pass to it please man, im broke right now :(

:whistle:

Willie Escalade
05-21-2013, 12:33 AM
Can you give me your pass to it please man, im broke right now :(

:whistle:
That's a bad idea :smh

Jericho
05-21-2013, 12:53 AM
Can anyone send me that scene that bailey done with matt, where he was being nasty to her and calling her a slut and that, its like 20mins long and near the end they fuck on the sofa

Sure, I'll put it on disk for you.
Just print out your name and address!

NightmareX0666
05-21-2013, 12:54 AM
And this could be said for anyone, I am a huge Alice Cooper fan his stuff is nothing new...concerts always have the same theme bad guy (Alice) is executed for the wrongs he has done. But I will always remain loyal to him, however his music and theatrics allowed me to see others who do the same (GWAR, Rob Zombie) work. And with Bailey, she brought in new fans to the TS porn experience, and some people will move on to Eva, Hazel, either Wendy, or someone else.

And heck in a round about way I did the same thing with Bailey Jay, looking for BJ's stuff - I found this website and have seen other girls here that I really like and enjoy. When I had the money (yeah I'm broke ass person) I could either join Bailey's site, but decided on the Grooby archives and Krissy's site. Both of these sites were not disappointing.... the greatest thrill was getting an email from Krissy when I emailed her. That was awesome and a total respect factor that made me glad I was on her site. And if Bailey has disconnected herself from the fans then it takes away the personal attraction and she may lose some fans. However she will always have the loyal members just like Alice Cooper will always have a loyal person in me and he hasn't spoken to me since I was 18 and asked him about 'Muscles' McNasal on a radio call in show.

pantic
05-21-2013, 12:56 AM
send it to my email address!

GroobyKrissy
05-21-2013, 12:58 AM
And this could be said for anyone, I am a huge Alice Cooper fan his stuff is nothing new...concerts always have the same theme bad guy (Alice) is executed for the wrongs he has done. But I will always remain loyal to him, however his music and theatrics allowed me to see others who do the same (GWAR, Rob Zombie) work. And with Bailey, she brought in new fans to the TS porn experience, and some people will move on to Eva, Hazel, either Wendy, or someone else.

And heck in a round about way I did the same thing with Bailey Jay, looking for BJ's stuff - I found this website and have seen other girls here that I really like and enjoy. When I had the money (yeah I'm broke ass person) I could either join Bailey's site, but decided on the Grooby archives and Krissy's site. Both of these sites were not disappointing.... the greatest thrill was getting an email from Krissy when I emailed her. That was awesome and a total respect factor that made me glad I was on her site. And if Bailey has disconnected herself from the fans then it takes away the personal attraction and she may lose some fans. However she will always have the loyal members just like Alice Cooper will always have a loyal person in me and he hasn't spoken to me since I was 18 and asked him about 'Muscles' McNasal on a radio call in show.

Awww... thanks for the mention Hon :)

I keep pretty busy but try to answer Fans back when I can. I appreciate the mention and am glad you weren't disappointed with the site :) cause then I would have to stick a stiletto heel in your eye and I hate cleaning off my heels.

kukm4
05-21-2013, 01:07 AM
Can you give me your pass to it please man, im broke right now :(

:whistle:

http://i.imgur.com/iCAlN8L.gif

pantic
05-21-2013, 01:09 AM
Come on man please! its my birthday man :(

NightmareX0666
05-21-2013, 01:14 AM
Awww... thanks for the mention Hon :)

I keep pretty busy but try to answer Fans back when I can. I appreciate the mention and am glad you weren't disappointed with the site :) cause then I would have to stick a stiletto heel in your eye and I hate cleaning off my heels.

Damn I guess that would really be a new way of looking at the meaning, "Eyeing your heels!" Would I have to pay extra for that type of fetish...;-)

GroobyKrissy
05-21-2013, 01:23 AM
Damn I guess that would really be a new way of looking at the meaning, "Eyeing your heels!" Would I have to pay extra for that type of fetish...;-)

Back when I was escorting I used to see this guy who wanted me to walk on him in high heels... it was actually kind of fun and he always seemed to enjoy it. I would eat 10 Whoppers (or 22.5 Whopper Jr's) right before seeing him. So the short answer is, yes... heels in the eyeball is extra. Just because I would have to pay a cobbler (do those still exist?) to wash them.

NightmareX0666
05-21-2013, 01:39 AM
Back when I was escorting I used to see this guy who wanted me to walk on him in high heels... it was actually kind of fun and he always seemed to enjoy it. I would eat 10 Whoppers (or 22.5 Whopper Jr's) right before seeing him. So the short answer is, yes... heels in the eyeball is extra. Just because I would have to pay a cobbler (do those still exist?) to wash them.

No worries I'll supply the heels....and still pay extra. Like I said when I'm loyal fan I really am a loyal fan!

MrsKellyPierce
05-21-2013, 02:51 AM
Umm what is this bash Bailey Jay stuff? She is a lovely girl..who doesn't escort..has a husband..funny..and sweet.. leave her BE! And stop hating on her!

And her stuff SALES regardless and no one can take that from her.. talk shit all you like..but her work sales.

And fellow models that are hating on her that are beginners..really shouldn't talk!

I don't get girls that put one another down..it just makes you look bad..FYI

And Franklin I heart you, but you DON'T HAVE TO GET HER or EVEN LIKE HER.. Plenty of others do...

youngblood61
05-21-2013, 02:57 AM
Umm what is this bash Bailey Jay stuff? She is a lovely girl..who doesn't escort..has a husband..funny..and sweet.. leave her BE! And stop hating on her!

And her stuff SALES regardless and no one can take that from her.. talk shit all you like..but her work sales.

And fellow models that are hating on her that are beginners..really shouldn't talk!

I don't get girls that put one another down..it just makes you look bad..FYIIt's become a ritual here Kelly, bash BJ at every turn.:(

be2378
05-21-2013, 03:45 AM
She's married? Lucky person!

Cecil Rhodes
05-21-2013, 03:59 AM
And this could be said for anyone, I am a huge Alice Cooper fan his stuff is nothing new...concerts always have the same theme bad guy (Alice) is executed for the wrongs he has done. But I will always remain loyal to him, however his music and theatrics allowed me to see others who do the same (GWAR, Rob Zombie) work. And with Bailey, she brought in new fans to the TS porn experience, and some people will move on to Eva, Hazel, either Wendy, or someone else.

And heck in a round about way I did the same thing with Bailey Jay, looking for BJ's stuff - I found this website and have seen other girls here that I really like and enjoy. When I had the money (yeah I'm broke ass person) I could either join Bailey's site, but decided on the Grooby archives and Krissy's site. Both of these sites were not disappointing.... the greatest thrill was getting an email from Krissy when I emailed her. That was awesome and a total respect factor that made me glad I was on her site. And if Bailey has disconnected herself from the fans then it takes away the personal attraction and she may lose some fans. However she will always have the loyal members just like Alice Cooper will always have a loyal person in me and he hasn't spoken to me since I was 18 and asked him about 'Muscles' McNasal on a radio call in show.

GWAR ........ I punched one of them on their ass back in 1998 ....... lol ..... It was an accident . I slept thru an interview with Alice Cooper back in 2004 (?) . My friend . I forgot about it and took a nap .

RadiusDark
05-21-2013, 05:03 AM
Retention is fair - but not as good as Mandy's (whom I'm not even sure is updating).
Bailey's site converts for me at 1:738 compared to any other site on their network being from 1:1500 - 1:10,000, so I disagree with you're "going in blind" - you're wrong, surfers are smarter and they want what she offers.

Once again, just because something doesn't suit your style, you project and assume incorrectly.

Holy shit, those are some horrible conversion rates. 1 in 10,000?

Ain't Nobody Got Time For That - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cT_Ulmcrys)

Willie Escalade
05-21-2013, 05:20 AM
I hate cleaning off my heels.
I'd probably make a mess on them...:jerkoff

talon
05-31-2013, 08:40 PM
I don't think there's anything "wrong" with her, she's just maturing. I can't imagine anyone on this thread still looks as good as we did when we were younger.

She has a great photographer (husband? bf?) and a great sense of style. Personally I can't stand her podcast as it's so inane and talks about nonsense, but that's just my tastes. It's great that she is out there as a TG gal with a big following.

Leveraged right, she could break into the mainstream as a transsexual talk show guest, not for the "woo-woo-wow!" factor, but as someone honestly talking about their experiences. She has enough charisma and confidence.

I rarely see TS/TG people in such a role, I remember one video of Kelly Shore talking about what is like for her to grow up as a TG, the support she had, but that was not a mainstream media interview at all. But she was eloquent.

But hey if you're just here for the porn, and are upset porn actresses lose interest in such a one-dimensional, short-term career, woohoo, good for you, I guess.

lg775n
05-31-2013, 09:06 PM
Come on man please! its my birthday man :(

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blackchubby38
05-31-2013, 10:48 PM
I'd probably make a mess on them...:jerkoff

Just out of curiosity, where is your avatar from?

Cecil Rhodes
05-31-2013, 10:55 PM
[QUOTE=RadiusDark;1326584]Holy shit, those are some horrible conversion rates. 1 in 10,000?

I like this video better


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=BYW6C44zo24

TSPornFan
05-31-2013, 11:24 PM
Umm what is this bash Bailey Jay stuff? She is a lovely girl..who doesn't escort..has a husband..funny..and sweet.. leave her BE! And stop hating on her!

And her stuff SALES regardless and no one can take that from her.. talk shit all you like..but her work sales.

And fellow models that are hating on her that are beginners..really shouldn't talk!

I don't get girls that put one another down..it just makes you look bad..FYI

And Franklin I heart you, but you DON'T HAVE TO GET HER or EVEN LIKE HER.. Plenty of others do...

Kelly, you're a great woman. So please don't take this as a personal attack.

I'm not criticizing Bailey Jay as a person. I do not know her personally. I'm in no place to judge her as a person.

However, I am criticizing Bailey Jay as a professional pornstar. The quality of her content is awful. Instead of improving she is regressing. Now she does not interact or show any emotions in videos. In fact she doesn't say a word. She's still life in videos.

I don't think there is anything wrong with a beginner criticizing Bailey because her content's quality is just that bad. Even a beginner should know to show emotion and react when making a scene.

Bailey Jay is married. She is a lovely girl who does not escort. However, that does not mean that her members should ignore how poor her site's quality is. She has already blocked out members by being the ONLY girl on the T-Girl Network who does not allow comments. Why? Most of her comments were complaints about the poor quality.

She shouldn't even have a AVN award let alone two.

BluegrassCat
05-31-2013, 11:39 PM
Kelly, you're a great woman. So please don't take this as a personal attack.

I'm not criticizing Bailey Jay as a person. I do not know her personally. I'm in no place to judge her as a person.

However, I am criticizing Bailey Jay as a professional pornstar. The quality of her content is awful. Instead of improving she is regressing. Now she does not interact or show any emotions in videos. In fact she doesn't say a word. She's still life in videos.

I don't think there is anything wrong with a beginner criticizing Bailey because her content's quality is just that bad. Even a beginner should know to show emotion and react when making a scene.

Bailey Jay is married. She is a lovely girl who does not escort. However, that does not mean that her members should ignore how poor her site's quality is. She has already blocked out members by being the ONLY girl on the T-Girl Network who does not allow comments. Why? Most of her comments were complaints about the poor quality.

She shouldn't even have a AVN award let alone two.

I like how when Franklin sees a business model succeeding that he doesn't like, instead of recognizing that his tastes are not the arbiter of success, he claims that succeeding is somehow failure.

TSPornFan
05-31-2013, 11:51 PM
I like how when Franklin sees a business model succeeding that he doesn't like, instead of recognizing that his tastes are not the arbiter of success, he claims that succeeding is somehow failure.

I've never say she was a failure. I said I am more surprised that her business model works. How about you learn how to tell the truth?


Just because she is successful doesn't mean that people should overlook her faults. Successful people are not excluded from criticism.

moonunit7
06-01-2013, 12:39 AM
I agree with Talon. BJ has a great shot at going mainstream and breaking ground for transsexuals around the world. If TS's can get a foothold in mainstream movies and TV, the general public will be far more accepting of the way of life. It would also give alternative careers to porn and escorting.
Aside from BJ, there is a very short list popular TS personalities that might be able to pull this off. Let her do her thing and others do their thing. She's not hurting anything or anyone

Willie Escalade
06-01-2013, 05:06 AM
Just out of curiosity, where is your avatar from?

I made it from a picture Tomcat tweeted. I've been waiting for this particular scene since Venus told me about it.
http://promo.tspussyhunters.com/g/otolaeg:revshare/30151/l/0/h/f?sso_ticket=no&c=1
http://promo.tspussyhunters.com/g/otolaeg:revshare/30151/i/0/h/jpg

Jamespeternice
06-01-2013, 06:35 AM
Personally, I am amazed Eva hasn't commented in a week. Not that it bothers me, I can find her comments in plenty of threads.

danthepoetman
06-01-2013, 07:37 AM
I made it from a picture Tomcat tweeted. I've been waiting for this particular scene since Venus told me about it.
http://promo.tspussyhunters.com/g/otolaeg:revshare/30151/l/0/h/f?sso_ticket=no&c=1
http://promo.tspussyhunters.com/g/otolaeg:revshare/30151/i/0/h/jpg
Oh! God almighty! NO! I kind of knew adorable, feminine Jessica Fox could do this "dominant" bullshit, but adorable Venus and Eva Lin. OH! please, God! NO! They're so feminine! MY IDEAL IS SHATERED!

EvaCassini
06-01-2013, 08:47 AM
Personally, I am amazed Eva hasn't commented in a week. Not that it bothers me, I can find her comments in plenty of threads.


Hey, want me to comment? Ok.

This is me commenting, I comment sometimes. I comment here, I comment there, I post comments. :)..................Comment.

I post comments in other threads too. I'm just done with this thread, its stupid and irrelevant. Franklin is going to keep posting his comments and in turn, piss people off, soooooo yeah. BTW...Comment! LMAO :p