BIG WARNING to all escorts in London

[darkrose2000]

BIG WARNING to all escorts in London

Earlier this week there was an organised brutal armed robbery in a house, where 2 escorts were working (London).
It was organised group of 4 or 5 criminals, very aggressive and violent.
One of them pretend to be a client and when the door is open they forced the door and get in.

They beat the girls and stole everything valuable from the house.

The damage is very big.
The criminals are still on the streets, so be very careful when you invite your clients.


I would like to thank the police officers for understanding and the professional work done this night and the day after.

I was very impressed how organised, fast and professional the police could be.

[Stavros]

More bad news, and not new either. I think it is probably time that escorts did not work alone and vet their clients before they arrive, maybe arranging to meet them somewhere before the session -if it is Queensway they could meet in the Starbucks. At some point, if this continues without precautions being taken, someone is going to get killed.

[GroobySteven]

More bad news, and not new either. I think it is probably time that escorts did not work alone and vet their clients before they arrive, maybe arranging to meet them somewhere before the session -if it is Queensway they could meet in the Starbucks. At some point, if this continues without precautions being taken, someone is going to get killed.

The problem is that I believe legally they need to work alone or from one location. Isn't there a brothel law for more than 2 working from same address?

[MacShreach]

The problem is that I believe legally they need to work alone or from one location. Isn't there a brothel law for more than 2 working from same address?
Yes, though it is applied inconsistently between police authorities in England&Wales and is slightly different in Scotland. Would probably depend on whether there were associated public order issues; it's an easy way to shut the problem down.

However robbery with violence and forced entry are both far more serious and the police should prioritise those. Whether they would is another matter.

[LibertyHarkness]

the brothel law is confusing ... as when i get raided last year with my ts friend ... the complaint was that fact it was 2 working girls living together offering duo;s...

the short of it was simply we had to remove the adverts, and technically 1 of us had to be out of the place while other was working and have our advert offline ... of which we agreed with the police is hard to do lol

i think that would be a case by case , 2 uk independant girls doing stuff together and that have a good rep with local vice would maybe be ok ..and have a blind eye turned .. but you never know ..

sad news indeed to hear ,, glad i moved out of london .

[MacShreach]

Yeah reading between the lines of what you're saying there, the police who dealt with it seem to have taken a fairly reasonable line.

Chief Constables in E&W and also in Scotland have huge amounts of discretion how they carry out their job. However, the law is the law and if the police get a complaint that it has been broken, they have to investigate and make a report. (Even if normally they would think it was a waste of valuable time.)

A huge amount of the complaints the police get come from, basically, narky neighbours, and unless serious crime is being committed, they tend to deal with them on the spot with 'a quiet word'. Most police officers see keeping the peace as a big part of their job, rather than the literal and strict application of the letter of the law. (For the yanks, prostitution is legal everywhere in the UK, though solicitation and 'running a house of ill repute' are both illegal.) The fact is that there just is not enough resources, money or court time to take the minor stuff any further.

[Prospero]

But two girls together in an apartment clearly isn't much of a defence - since there were two girls in this case who got attacked. The solution Stavros makes is a sensible one - a meeting someplace on neutral ground. But they'd have to vary the place. The same girl meeting clients day after day, several times a day in one location would soon arouse unwelcome attention.

I heard of another case recently where a GG escort sustained a serious eye injury when robbers forced their way into her apartment.

Some strategy is clearly necessary to stop this.

[BiBoyinBeantown]

Ick. Hoping the bastards are caught soon, and, yeah, probably time to get that anti-brothel law off the books too. I'm not sure how much help that'd provide but it'd be a start.

[tsadriana]

Sad news ...Im lucky that i dont live in London ,each day that city becomes dangerous than ever.

[Prospero]

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[sexyasianescorts]

Have we got any phone numbers for these losers also if we know nationalities and what they sound like would be a great help.

Please feel free to PM me if you dont want to share here. Also see this post which may be of help.

http://www.punterlink.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=93055

Thanks

Chloe x

[tskitana]

oh that suckss.. i was planning to visit end of the summer. Now im iffy since theres been few cases i heard about recently. And i always wanted London to be my first european city to start a tour. bleh

[darkrose2000]

Have we got any phone numbers for these losers also if we know nationalities and what they sound like would be a great help.

Please feel free to PM me if you dont want to share here. Also see this post which may be of help.

http://www.punterlink.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=93055

Thanks

Chloe x

Thanks for the info, Chloe.
Email sent.

No phone numbers, as the phones of the girls are stolen.

I will keep the thread updated, if there is more info.

[flabbybody]

you can't walk ten feet in New York without being in range of a surveillance camera. I would thing London PD has similar technology. don't police have any pics of these douchebags ?

[TSBootyLondon]

London is a disgrace with regards to robberies and beatings, not just working girls.
Ginger was robbed at knife point a couple of weeks ago OUTSIDE her home in Paddington. the robber was lurking outside her front door when she came home from shopping early afternoon. By the time she saw him it was to late, his knife was pressed against her throat. She was very shaken up. The guy was black and about 25-30. So he wasn't even a client, we don't know who he was or how he came across her details as she has never had a no show client to date!

Nardia (female) was with another agencies client a few Sundays ago when a knock came to the door. She ignored it thinking it was for her room mate, TS Champaign who had actually gone out to eat... the knocking continued to frantic banging so she went to the door, tried to peek through the letter box and BAM, the bastard kicked the door in just as the letter box flap was up. His entire weight behind the impact almost lost Nardia her eye! he was not alone, x2 black guys mid to late 20's.
An i-phone 5 and allot of money lighter she was rushed to moorfields! (I must add that the guys even robbed the customer of his phone and jewelery!!) Luckily after 3 weeks rest and a few stitches she is well however still very shaken. Neither returned to their apartment after that.
God knows who he was, as she wasn't expecting anyone there as she was with a client!
TS Pinky (aka Okra), We sent a client there a few week ago who mugged her of £100 and get this....... Makenzie 2 weeks ago.... A client called up, paid the 100 donation. Enjoyed himself in under 20 minutes AND THEN bloody mugged her!!!

These are just a few stories that I am sharing! It is a daily struggle in london.
When my phone rings it is down to me to distinguish who is real and who is not! Just sometimes I get a feeling deep inside that tells me something is not right, so I either ask a number of questions that usually trips them over like what service do you want, have you been with a ladyboy before and how large honey! they usually say something stupid like oh not a fat bird! or er, er, er! you can tell when a client really wants to see a TS OR if they pass the questioning but I am still concerned then I send him to one of my girls with savvie and CCTV to confirm, 9 times out of ten its a mugger, we know this because the head is down, they refuse to look at the camera and more often the hood is up or the cap is low.
These gangs target Eros and site similar. They are low lifes WHO disgust me!
Easy money at anothers peril!

We try so hard to vet our clients and even we cannot get it right! the day Nardia's took place was horrendous the worry that she would lose her sight! She was in a terrible state! bashed and beaten!
I will also add that the robbers are not the only people who take advantage and exploit escorts in London. Landlords are just as bad only they do not resort to violence!

4 weeks ago 7 of the London Ladyboys we homeless for reasons of fear of not wanting to go back and evictions with no notice and refusal to pay back the deposits!

[TSBootyLondon]

AND get this, what amazes me the most! the guy who mugged Okra used his own mobile number, we know this because when we added the number to the ban list we found his watsapp picture, we showed it to Okra and she said yes that is him!! Hows that for a pair of BIG brass balls!!!

[LibertyHarkness]

Its why i wont escort in London again ..

[Corran]

It's Trollapalooza here at Hung Angels this afternoon ladies and gentlemen.

Whoever robbed these women and worse, caused bodily harm need to be hung up to a clothesline by their testicles and flogged..preferably by the ladies they harmed.

[Jericho]

Are the kids off school or something?

[Corran]

Are the kids off school or something?

It is almost time for summer break for the little heathens, isn't it?

[TSBootyLondon]

BUMP.....
I think that it is important that this thread stays up top for a while!
There are many girls who may not have read this warning yet x Bella



BIG WARNING to all escorts in London

Earlier this week there was an organised brutal armed robbery in a house, where 2 escorts were working (London).
It was organised group of 4 or 5 criminals, very aggressive and violent.
One of them pretend to be a client and when the door is open they forced the door and get in.

They beat the girls and stole everything valuable from the house.

The damage is very big.
The criminals are still on the streets, so be very careful when you invite your clients.


I would like to thank the police officers for understanding and the professional work done this night and the day after.

I was very impressed how organised, fast and professional the police could be.

[LexusFire]

Disgusting to hear.
These girls are so brave, being able to go through these ordeals and still having the courage to continue what they do.
We are all human, sometimes we forget that.
Working girls or not, no one deserves to be hurt (emitionally or physically) by strangers breaking down their door.
We must support 'our' girls otherwise we run the risk of losing them.
How? Im not sure. Emotionally? When we visit, we may be nervous but the girls can be too. Different reasons, granted, but nervous of bodily harm or the risks of the aforementioned are not something we as visitors are worried about, and neither should the girls.
These girls enjoy what they do, as soon as they start to fear they will go.
And trying not to categorise too much, but in the Thai/South Asian community bad news spreads like wildfire...
No more gems like CoCo or Ginger (LLB names) to name but a few...

Even if you do not see these girls, the possibility of not having the option? Horrible prospect.

Hopefully its not going to hit that extreme, but lets try and keep these experiences (for the girls) violent free. Lets keep them safe!!!

Spread the love man!

[NRT]

well it could be a disgruntled client who was ripped off? I have (and know many others too) who paid for an hour, and get booted out after 20 mins, the girl goes in the other room for what seems like an eternity and returns all hyper, no doubt after sniffing something give a crap service and and tells you to go. Or threatens to call in security from other room, if you refuse to stay after realising its a fake picture they were using. I am sure most of the foreign girls are working illegally, probably on a short stay/holiday dont declare earnings and take or use drugs. No doubt work to pay for the habit. That is why they wont go to the police .

Clients get ripped off/robbed to

[Prospero]

Indeed clients do get ripped off but not with the sort of violence visited upon these girls. I find your post rather disturbing NRT - as it tacitly suggests that, maybe, these girls got what was coming to them. A disgusting thought.

[TSBootyLondon]

READ Dark Roses original thread, the police were involved! as were they with our incidents. I have no reservations in calling the police on a mugger, abuser or a nasty client! If my girls are in danger then they are my priority!

In many cases the independent girls do not go to the police because in most cases I have to make then right, why should they as 7 times out of ten the police do not care and are quite honest in their response of there is nothing that we can do!
Please don't turn this thread into a review on service or in your experience girls who use... DarkRose has posted this to raise awareness to any working girls out there who would benefit from seeing this bad news. We have the reviews section to pass comment on service and please do not think that I am being rude I am just deeply saddened by the brutal attacks that are on the rise here in London, Lexus is right, something needs to be done to protect these girls, in cases like this agencies and working girls need a process in place which I can only describe a 'snow chain'
Us agencies already warn each other via texts, we send out warning to avoid clients and avoid numbers. Chloe at Sexy Asian has sent and received message from me many times as a Yummy.... We together are trying our hardest to protect our girls (Who you all know we all share) but times like this I see that it is not enough! xx Be safe everyone


well it could be a disgruntled client who was ripped off? I have (and know many others too) who paid for an hour, and get booted out after 20 mins, the girl goes in the other room for what seems like an eternity and returns all hyper, no doubt after sniffing something give a crap service and and tells you to go. Or threatens to call in security from other room, if you refuse to stay after realising its a fake picture they were using. I am sure most of the foreign girls are working illegally, probably on a short stay/holiday dont declare earnings and take or use drugs. No doubt work to pay for the habit. That is why they wont go to the police .

Clients get ripped off/robbed to

[Prospero]

READ Dark Roses original thread, the police were involved! as were they with our incidents. I have no reservations in calling the police on a mugger, abuser or a nasty client! If my girls are in danger then they are my priority!

In many cases the independent girls do not go to the police because in most cases I have to make then right, why should they as 7 times out of ten the police do not care and are quite honest in their response of there is nothing that we can do!
Please don't turn this thread into a review on service or in your experience girls who use... DarkRose has posted this to raise awareness to any working girls out there who would benefit from seeing this bad news. We have the reviews section to pass comment on service and please do not think that I am being rude I am just deeply saddened by the brutal attacks that are on the rise here in London, Lexus is right, something needs to be done to protect these girls, in cases like this agencies and working girls need a process in place which I can only describe a 'snow chain'
Us agencies already warn each other via texts, we send out warning to avoid clients and avoid numbers. Chloe at Sexy Asian has sent and received message from me many times as a Yummy.... We together are trying our hardest to protect our girls (Who you all know we all share) but times like this I see that it is not enough! xx Be safe everyone
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[gslang]

I too am totally disgusted that theres any suggestion that "they got what they deserve".

These attacks are terrible. and previous poster is absolutely correct to say that the news with travel around and make some destinations considerably less attractive for touring girls.

This has already happened in Paris, where the gang methodically worked their way thru all visiting asian girls - using the victims own suitcases to remove everything, leaving just their passport and raping them. Threatening and beating the girls to reveal the whereabouts of their friends. This episode from a few months ago is common knowledge among the se.asian TS community, and with other reported attacks in Oslo and London, has contributed to the decision of many to tour elsewhere.

Of course the legal framework in most countries is completely wrong, and denying the girls any protection they deserve. And sadly, most of us will remain silent in the outside world of our support for such changes, while a vocal few with their own agenda decry any move to legalise this business.

[tsadriana]

i dont know but my advice is if a girl sees more then a guy to not open the door.i dont trust in guys with suitcases,bags anything ..i never turn my back to them...im always carefuly with every detail .
In the future if a girl gets robbed to call 911 straight away and to complain that she was robbed.

[Prospero]

For any foreign girls working in London who are reading this board it is 999 not 911 as Adriana says (that is the US emergency number).

[tsadriana]

For any foreign girls working in London who are reading this board it is 999 not 911 as Adriana says (that is the US emergency number).


hahahaah sorry ,i got carried away ...look what happens when you rush.:mad:

[TSBootyLondon]

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[Prospero]

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[Prospero]

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[tsadriana]

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[Prospero]

LOL... adriana... its one of THOSE afternoons, eh.

[darkrose2000]

Bump from me.

I started to work together with Open Doors NHS and Ugly Mugs.
This organisations are very useful for the escorts, as they could help and support them.


Here is some more info about this organisations:

Ugly Mugs
Alerts & Reporting for Sex Workers

If you are a female, male or transgender sex worker you can sign up to the National Ugly Mugs Pilot Scheme for FREE and receive warnings about dangerous individuals who are a threat to you. If you are a victim of a crime you can report this to us and we will use the information to warn other sex workers and only if you consent we will pass the information (without any of your personal details) to police intelligence to help bring these dangerous criminals to justice.

web: https://uknswp.org/um/





Open Doors NHS
A free and confidential sexual health service for people working in the sex industry.


The clinics are free and confidential (regardless of your nationality or immigration status)

The clinics offer a translation service by telephone in your language


The clinics provide:


Sexual health testing and treatment
Contraception
Emergency contraception
Pregnancy testing
HIV testing
Hepatitis B vaccinations
Cervical screening
Free condoms, lubricants, dams, sponges and finger cots

Referrals to support services, including counseling
Ugly Mugs information


web: http://www.opendoors.nhs.uk/