Dilemma

[tgirlluver234]

hey guys and gals
I've dilemma and just wanted your opinion, Im in a situation whereby im an admirer of the fine form of the wonderful tgirl world.. i find myself turned on by looking at pics and reading about these find women, however im now wondering should i take it to the next level and perhaps meet one for fun.. im afraid if i do it may ruin the fantasy and im a bit scared of being considered gay just because enjoy ladies with that little something extra...i was wondering how you found your 1st expereince and would tgirls be reluctant to play with guy who perhaps would just like to start by just playing with each other and not penetration...thanks

[saifan]

After my 1st time I was kicking myself for not doing it sooner!

The only way to know is to try it... and get rid of any labels you might use for yourself. They're worthless.

[Rusty Eldora]

It took me over a year of <should I> < I shouldn't > before I decided I should but then it was still 4 or 5 weeks. I was over in DT Seattle twice a week and was seeing GG escorts when there. I did a lot of research and lucked out both that my 1st one was very fem. TS Pamela http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/81/76/94397681/photos/seattle-4/26_13/DSCN1571.JPG

That is the big difference to me, if they vibe feminine I'm good, if vibe so-so or masculine I freeze up. I was worried sick whether I could touch a cock, much less suck.

It turned out that I was like a moth to a flame, really loved it including getting topped. My only regret was not doing it sooner. I would recommend a Tgirl escort the first few times at least, they are very used to first timers and are generally very happy with whatever goes in the session.

I myself feel that I am no longer fully straight, but moved toward bi yet it doesn't really matter to me.

[bluesoul]

hey guys and gals
I've dilemma and just wanted your opinion, Im in a situation whereby im an admirer of the fine form of the wonderful tgirl world.. i find myself turned on by looking at pics and reading about these find women, however im now wondering should i take it to the next level and perhaps meet one for fun.. im afraid if i do it may ruin the fantasy and im a bit scared of being considered gay just because enjoy ladies with that little something extra...i was wondering how you found your 1st expereince and would tgirls be reluctant to play with guy who perhaps would just like to start by just playing with each other and not penetration...thanks

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[EvaCassini]

Going on about it in your head just turns transgendered folks into something other than human. They (we) are people - just fuck 'em or don't. It's not something worth loosing sleep over. Flesh is flesh, is flesh.

[tgirlsandstockings]

Best worst decision I ever made. BEST because I loved it. Worst best because I cant stop thinking about tgirls. DO IT!

[MdR Dave]

I didn't know I'd do it- didn't even consider it- until I met my ex.

I didn't think twice once I looked into those eyes. All I wanted was her number, a date, and for her to call me papi.

[danthepoetman]

I suggest you don’t overrate your first experience one way or the other. Sometimes (in anything) it takes a few shots to feel comfortable. And you know, life is too short to spoil it thinking about “ifs” and “buts”. That doesn’t mean you should throw yourself head down in anything, but if you have such a desire, I think you shouldn’t hesitate to fulfill it. Being “gay” or not doesn’t mean much of anything. But even if it was, you have the right to be whom and what you want to be. Just be yourself and forget what other people think. I often have this ancient Greek quote in my mind, from poet Pindar, which most people don’t understand: “Become who you are!” Go for what you want, or else it will slip away one way or the other.
As to your first experience, once again, it’s difficult to give you any advice. It will depend on the circumstances. But just allowing yourself to “be”, just to stop repressing yourself should be a great relief anyways, imo… Be safe though, and have fun.

[Westheangelino]

Let go of the whole "am I gay?" thing. If you were gay, you probably would already have made some clandestine visits to the bath house or hooked up online.

As for the tgirls: GO FOR IT!!!!! But I suggest NOT starting with an escort. You will be much better off hooking up with someone who is in it for pleasure and not money.

[tgirlluver234]

Wow only with a few replies the overwhelming sense is to just go for it and take that chance or cock lol thanks all :)

[Bribi]

Why being scared of being considered gay?
First, if you also go with GG, you'd not be gay but bi.
And then, f- people, like what you like.
And people don't necessarily have to know that you tried it with a TG or a guy. So they couldn't consider you gay or whatever. You can have you secrets too.

[tgirlluver234]

Thanks I know defo not gay cause Im into GG its just trying to get my head around enjoying looking at girls with cocks, it a real turn on and alot Of TG are amazing looking

[MacShreach]

Why being scared of being considered gay?
First, if you also go with GG, you'd not be gay but bi.
And then, f- people, like what you like.
And people don't necessarily have to know that you tried it with a TG or a guy. So they couldn't consider you gay or whatever. You can have you secrets too.


I agree about why would it bother anyone, though not everyone lives in such enlightened parts; there are places where being identified as 'gay' is downright dangerous.

But I'm not so sure about the 'bi' bit, although it's a popular idea. The standard Western definition of 'bisexual' is someone who is attracted to people of either the same or opposite genders. So for a man, that would be, attracted to both men and women. However, only a very few men attracted to transwomen are also attracted to men. Most pretty much exclusively like women, of either type. They are attracted to typical feminine sexual characteristics.

Now I am not, (and never have done) suggesting that transattracted men are 100% 'straight' in the generally accepted sense, including myself. (Would anyone want to be?) Transattraction appears to be a compeletely separate sexual orientation which is usually linked to heterosexuality. In this it is similar to autogynephilia, which also exists in parallel with heterosexuality, and the logic is similar. Just as you can't be autogynephilic unless you are gynephilc (attracted to women) first, you can't be attracted to transwomen unless you are attracted to women.

I suspect the fact that transattraction just won't fit inside a conventional hetero/bi/homo model of sexuality is why there is so much discussion of it on boards like this one.

[MacShreach]

Thanks I know defo not gay cause Im into GG its just trying to get my head around enjoying looking at girls with cocks, it a real turn on and alot Of TG are amazing looking
See my last, you're not gay, and welcome to the club.

[Bribi]

And that's why I hate labels.
Each person is different.
Some men like women, some like men, some like women who looks like men, some like TG, some like women and TG,... Same with girls.
So the labels straight/gay/bi is so lame.
Just enjoy what you enjoy. Don't forbid yourself something because you think it's this or that.

I also understand, I mean, at the beginning, I was ashamed of liking TG. I was like "man, what's with me?" And it's something really hard to avoid when you start things not "common" not... hm... don't have the word. No matter how it's done, you are almost always raised by the guy goes with girls. Girls have vagina. Guys have penis. So when you take an other road it's very hard to be proud of it or at least enjoy it with no problem.
And one day I realized that after all, why not, people don't necessarily have to know, it's something I like, so what not enjoy it. But I know a lot of people are way comfortable with this than me.

I just try to show you that if you want to try it, go for it. You don't like it, you don't like it. But if you like, I think you'll be glad to have tried it!

PS: damn my posts could be so much shorter if I could express myself correctly :lol:

[Prospero]

Going on about it in your head just turns transgendered folks into something other than human. They (we) are people - just fuck 'em or don't. It's not something worth loosing sleep over. Flesh is flesh, is flesh.


Eva says it very clearly. Just go for it. They are - in many cases - very lovely women and the sex can be sensational.

[MacShreach]

And that's why I hate labels.
Each person is different.
Some men like women, some like men, some like women who looks like men, some like TG, some like women and TG,... Same with girls.
So the labels straight/gay/bi is so lame.
Just enjoy what you enjoy. Don't forbid yourself something because you think it's this or that.

I also understand, I mean, at the beginning, I was ashamed of liking TG. I was like "man, what's with me?" And it's something really hard to avoid when you start things not "common" not... hm... don't have the word. No matter how it's done, you are almost always raised by the guy goes with girls. Girls have vagina. Guys have penis. So when you take an other road it's very hard to be proud of it or at least enjoy it with no problem.
And one day I realized that after all, why not, people don't necessarily have to know, it's something I like, so what not enjoy it. But I know a lot of people are way comfortable with this than me.

I just try to show you that if you want to try it, go for it. You don't like it, you don't like it. But if you like, I think you'll be glad to have tried it!

PS: damn my posts could be so much shorter if I could express myself correctly :lol:

You express yourself fine. You just need to get your head round this:

Some girls have penises, and some guys have vaginas.

[Bribi]

I was talking about the ideas around you when you grow up ;) (told you I was not expressing myself well :D)
Even when nobody really tells you thisy, you grow in an environment that makes you understand that guys have penis, girls have vagina, and guys go with girls!
That's why when you like a girl with a penis or 2 guys together, you freak out.

[amberskyi]

Let go of the whole "am I gay?" thing. If you were gay, you probably would already have made some clandestine visits to the bath house or hooked up online.

As for the tgirls: GO FOR IT!!!!! But I suggest NOT starting with an escort. You will be much better off hooking up with someone who is in it for pleasure and not money.

Wrong!, so some innocent girl has to deal with his first time anxieties and insecurities.not very fair to the girl.
start out with escorts as the won't care and figure out if it's even something your into.

[MacShreach]

Wrong!, so some innocent girl has to deal with his first time anxieties and insecurities.not very fair to the girl.
start out with escorts as the won't care and figure out if it's even something your into.
Yeah I think the emotions of women have to be protected from the experiments of male adventurers. I think that's true of all women but more so of transwomen, who are often insecure (not saying you are at all). So yeah, if it's just about sex. Go p4p till you figure out if you can even handle it. That way, no promises, no lies, no broken hearts.

[MacShreach]

I was talking about the ideas around you when you grow up ;) (told you I was not expressing myself well :D)
Even when nobody really tells you thisy, you grow in an environment that makes you understand that guys have penis, girls have vagina, and guys go with girls!
That's why when you like a girl with a penis or 2 guys together, you freak out.
Yeah I get what you're saying but there's a false correlation between birth sex and gender identity. These are not necessarily aligned (though for the majority of us they are.)

So this is not even slightly like 2 guys with a penis, this is 1 guy + 1 girl (with non-standard equipment.)

I understand that the false correlation is not of your making, but of a monotheist, absolutist cultural tradition. But just because it has very deep roots doesn't make it any less false.:shrug

[TSBootyLondon]

Jumping in on the 'start out with escorts as they won't care' comment I felt compelled to add... Escorts have feelings and do care!

They are not machines and cannot switch off their feelings.... If I send a client to one of my girls who arrives rude and abrasive they have my full support in raising their preferred foot and kicking him back out of the door!

I advise that if you do start with an escort that who you fully engaged with her over the phone prior to going on your meet. Explain to her or the agency that represent her your concerns, specifics, fears, expectations etc then this way you ensure that from the very start of your date that you are both singing from the same hymn sheet!

The reviews section on this site is wholly driven by the punters reviews about the service given by the working girl that they have met be them good or bad, I would so love to just once feature the bad review as written from the escorts perspective but that would be highly unprofessional. Escorts in fact suffer in silence and yes I am aware that this is the name of the game so to speak!
On a daily basis my girls have to endure the rudeness of punters who feel that it is their god given right as they are paying to mistreat and abuse my girls!

I say to all of my clients 'go with an open heart and treat her with the respect that she deserves and you will be rewarded with great kindness.

I realise I may have gone off somewhat on a tangent but I just wanted to touch on the comment that was made that I read to mean that just because she charges for a services it means that she has no feelings

xx Peace & love Bella xx

[amberskyi]

Well this escort personally wouldn't care.what might hurt my "feelings" or agitate me socially simply doesn't bother me when it comes to work.i say this all the time to my clients:"it's not about me hun, I'm here to make your fantasy come true".
I'm of course not talking about extreme situations or actions like an abrasive, over demanding client or poor hygiene.simply, when i interact with a man socially i don't want to be used as a first time experiment.even if it was a "booty call"situation i want to enjoy myself not deal with some nervous,skittish dude who will probably bolt in shame after said activities or ruin my post orgasm buzz with a bunch of 'am i gay'questions lol.most girls are going to feel this way, especially the further removed from the industry they are.

[amberskyi]

Yeah I think the emotions of women have to be protected from the experiments of male adventurers. I think that's true of all women but more so of transwomen, who are often insecure (not saying you are at all). So yeah, if it's just about sex. Go p4p till you figure out if you can even handle it. That way, no promises, no lies, no broken hearts.

I'm not going to lie,trans woman often have more emotional scars when it comes to dating and love due to allot of the insecurities of men and the games they play.
I try my best to become not jaded but it's hard and i consider myself one of the lucky ones because I've had a real honest, open man in my life before.now trying to find that again is where the not being jaded part comes into play lol

[tsadriana]

Well this escort personally wouldn't care.what might hurt my "feelings" or agitate me socially simply doesn't bother me when it comes to work.i say this all the time to my clients:"it's not about me hun, I'm here to make your fantasy come true".
I'm of course not talking about extreme situations or actions like an abrasive, over demanding client or poor hygiene.simply, when i interact with a man socially i don't want to be used as a first time experiment.even if it was a "booty call"situation i want to enjoy myself not deal with some nervous,skittish dude who will probably bolt in shame after said activities or ruin my post orgasm buzz with a bunch of 'am i gay'questions lol.most girls are going to feel this way, especially the further removed from the industry they are.
Sometimes you feel akward with so many questions like am i gay?im that and that imao.very simple ...Give the cash anmd let me sit on your face.:mad:

[ARMANIXXX]

Let go of the whole "am I gay?" thing. If you were gay, you probably would already have made some clandestine visits to the bath house or hooked up online.

As for the tgirls: GO FOR IT!!!!! But I suggest NOT starting with an escort. You will be much better off hooking up with someone who is in it for pleasure and not money.


I too say you are wrong....totally wrong.


For a guy's first time, and when he's so unsure....

A working girl is the perfect place he should start. He doesn't even know if he's serious or if he's gonna like it or not....and fair enough, he might not.

And then, depending on his area and the rest of his situation, maybe it wouldn't be the best thing to try actually dating a TS in public, considering again, he's unsure.

Working girls for the majority of first timers is the better way to go.
Actually dating them....that's more advanced. He ain't there yet.

[Jericho]

im a bit scared of being considered gay

Too late now! :shrug

[bluesoul]

Wow only with a few replies the overwhelming sense is to just go for it and take that chance or cock lol thanks all :)

it might have something to do with the fact that this is a transgender forum so 100% of the membership is pro-trans

[tgirlluver234]

Just in response to the going with working girl I would have upmost respect for them as im sure some have had some bad experiences, all im looking for is to maybe make my fantasy a reality and hopefully its fun for both parties now I got to decide who lol

[SheWantsTheD]

As soon as I found that there are actually tgirls I can meet in real life I was doing everything I could to make it happen dude!
Within 7 days I had met my first one and I still think she was one of the best haha.
She was in an open relationship with a gay guy she'd been with since before she transitioned like 8 years ago. She was a pre op shemale with a good job doing interior decorating and she was from the philipines. She came two times during our session and I came once. I will never forget it!
All I wish now is that I didn't have a girlfriend at the time because I knew I would one day have ot break up with her over this because all I wanted to do from then on was meet and fuck MORE.

As for the are you gay thing? Lol people still say I am till this day, but these people are very closed minded and never try anything new their whole lives. I say leave them to it. Decide for yourself what your sexuality is, thats what everyone else does lol. I consider myself technically straight/straight +/bi. And if someone wants to argue that I'm gay till they are blue in the face then I just agree with them and say fine, I must be then because I can't be bothered with it lol.

And if you really want to be sure you are not gay then try watching some gay porn or try going on a date with a guy from one of these dating/sex sites.
I tried both, didn't like it at all. Didn't want to do it again.