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kenny90
05-12-2013, 11:49 PM
Thank you, thank you, thank you

Sulka_bewitched_me
05-13-2013, 12:10 AM
To each their own kenny90 but when I look at her I see more crossdresser than tgirl. Facially still looks very man-ish especially the third photo. Sorry just my :2cent

EvaCassini
05-13-2013, 12:17 AM
lol most ( 99.999% ) ( im sure ) crossdressers...dont get boob jobs...kinda messes up that whole idea of "cross-dresser" HAHAHA

Saint_Frankenstein
05-13-2013, 12:21 AM
lol most ( 99.999% ) ( im sure ) crossdressers...dont get boob jobs...kinda messes up that whole idea of "cross-dresser" HAHAHA

They don't tend to. But there's some who work in the sex industry who aren't actually transsexuals and will get on hormones or even get implants, make their money and then stop the hormones and have the implants taken out. :/ I've heard of that before.

I have no idea if that person is a transsexual or a cross dresser. Could go either way. You can't tell by looking at a person.

Sulka_bewitched_me
05-13-2013, 12:29 AM
lol most ( 99.999% ) ( im sure ) crossdressers...dont get boob jobs...kinda messes up that whole idea of "cross-dresser" HAHAHA
I was speaking facially but next time I'll try to be more accurate in my statements "Your Highness".

kenny90
05-13-2013, 12:35 AM
Peace in the valley! Just trying to find her ID...

Dino Velvet
05-13-2013, 12:42 AM
Gisele Hunziker (https://www.google.com/search?q=Gisele+Hunziker+%28Page+1%29+-+Imagefap&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=rcs#safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=Y30&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&channel=rcs&sclient=psy-ab&q=Gisele+Hunziker&oq=Gisele+Hunziker&gs_l=serp.3...2367.2367.0.3029.1.1.0.0.0.0.82.82.1 .1.0...0.0...1c.1.12.psy-ab.hyc8LK3ctaw&pbx=1&fp=1&biw=1920&bih=1066&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&cad=b)

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http://www.giselehunziker.com/images/June%202012/DSC_7969R.jpg

danthepoetman
05-13-2013, 12:42 AM
And maybe her siamese twin is named differently...

littletwink
05-13-2013, 12:51 AM
To each their own kenny90 but when I look at her I see more crossdresser than tgirl. Facially still looks very man-ish especially the third photo. Sorry just my :2cent
You must be gay. She's hot as hell.

Donkey
05-13-2013, 12:53 AM
^ Yep, hot as hell.

EvaCassini
05-13-2013, 01:03 AM
They don't tend to. But there's some who work in the sex industry who aren't actually transsexuals and will get on hormones or even get implants, make their money and then stop the hormones and have the implants taken out. :/ I've heard of that before.

I have no idea if that person is a transsexual or a cross dresser. Could go either way. You can't tell by looking at a person.


lol im a tgirl, and in the industry...but never heard of that happening...and if true, that really gives us true tgirls a really bad name, sadly...


I was speaking facially but next time I'll try to be more accurate in my statements "Your Highness".

lol i get it hun...some girls have unfortunate manish features, that make them look like not tgirls but that's how some are really :)



Peace in the valley! Just trying to find her ID...

hehehe, sry don't know...looks like these pics were done "personally" so that means not done by an actual production company, otherwise there would be a watermark or production logo....its also kinda tacky to have a lighting fixture in the photo...they are "amateur pictures" so unless someone does know, it will be very hard to pinpoint who this girl is. :)

MacShreach
05-13-2013, 01:05 AM
^ Yep, hot as hell.

Translation= 'Wow she has a big cock.'

EvaCassini
05-13-2013, 01:08 AM
lol the original 4 pics are ok...the lighting and the angles dont do her justice...but the pic of her that Dino posted is way better...you dont see much of the "manliness"....thats a big thing when taking photos of tgirls...if the lighting and angles aren't right, the girl could turn out to look like the elephant man sadly....thats why one should always be aware of lighting and angles :D

Saint_Frankenstein
05-13-2013, 01:09 AM
lol im a tgirl, and in the industry...but never heard of that happening...and if true, that really gives us true tgirls a really bad name, sadly...

Well, I do know of cross dressers who fool themselves into thinking they're transsexuals. I've personally known a few. A lot of times they freak out when they try hormones. I can't speak for porn, but I think that stuff is more likely to happen in escorting or prostitution. They present as a certain way to take advantage of the fetish. They don't really identify as women and usually end up being caricatures.

Jimmy W
05-13-2013, 01:10 AM
kenny90 I have no idea why they dropped the hammer on you for this post. You asked politely and provided photos and though I don't know who she is, I agree she is hot. ignore the rest of these assholes.

MacShreach
05-13-2013, 01:11 AM
lol im a tgirl, and in the industry...but never heard of that happening...and if true, that really gives us true tgirls a really bad name, sadly...

It does happen. There was a well-known Brazilian girl, Lisa Lawer I think was her adopted name, went back to being a man and married his cousin. I don't know how commonplace it is but she is certainly not the only case I've heard about, just the most well-known. Plenty of 'girls' like that in Asia too.

There is a big market for them from men who want to be fucked I guess. :shrug




lol i get it hun...some girls have unfortunate manish features, that make them look like not tgirls but that's how some are really :)




hehehe, sry don't know...looks like these pics were done "personally" so that means not done by an actual production company, otherwise there would be a watermark or production logo....its also kinda tacky to have a lighting fixture in the photo...they are "amateur pictures" so unless someone does know, it will be very hard to pinpoint who this girl is. :)

The one thing you can be sure of looking at those pics is she hasn't seen a shot of hormones in years.

Jimmy W
05-13-2013, 01:17 AM
All he asked for was an ID for a cute girl and he was polite and you fucks are turning someone he likes into target practice. Fucking assholes.

MacShreach
05-13-2013, 01:18 AM
All he asked for was an ID for a cute girl and he was polite and you fucks are turning someone he likes into target practice. Fucking assholes.
You already made your point, move along now.

EvaCassini
05-13-2013, 01:21 AM
right, that does seem to be more of an "escort" way of handling things, but even still...if for example...a guy decides, "hell i could suck dick for cash"...but not likely to get many hits, because gay guys wouldn't pay a guy usually for "escorting"....so he thinks..."perhaps if i radically alter my body with hormones and surgery, i could "pass off" as a tranny, then make more money." ( a ludicrous idea firstly lol ) so then the guy proceeds to do something that radically changes his body with some irreversible effects which could do major emotional harm to him in the future after he decides..." you know, i think im done with this, time to pursue something in Politics! ROFL......this whole scenario seems like something from a badly written B movie! LMAO.....Hell even Swayze, Snipes, and Leguizamo didnt stoop to get surgery or take hormones in "To Wong Foo" LMAO


You know....thinking about it...i could easily write this movie...definitely a comedy lol way better than some bullshit Sandler fuck-up lol :D

Jimmy W
05-13-2013, 01:22 AM
MacShreach - Kill yourself and go fuck your mother - moving along now

EvaCassini
05-13-2013, 01:23 AM
All he asked for was an ID for a cute girl and he was polite and you fucks are turning someone he likes into target practice. Fucking assholes.

Someone needs a popsicle! :) Popsicles make everything better. :wiggle:

P.S. He got his answer, so why not an interesting discussion? :)

Why not Zoidberg?!?!? LMAO :wiggle:

EvaCassini
05-13-2013, 01:24 AM
MacShreach - Kill yourself and go fuck your mother - moving along now

Wow dude...really? Is that even necessary? I don't think so.

That's like someone telling someone to "Eat a bullet"!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA

Saint_Frankenstein
05-13-2013, 01:25 AM
right, that does seem to be more of an "escort" way of handling things, but even still...if for example...a guy decides, "hell i could suck dick for cash"...but not likely to get many hits, because gay guys wouldn't pay a guy usually for "escorting"....so he thinks..."perhaps if i radically alter my body with hormones and surgery, i could "pass off" as a tranny, then make more money." ( a ludicrous idea firstly lol ) so then the guy proceeds to do something that radically changes his body with some irreversible effects which could do major emotional harm to him in the future after he decides..." you know, i think im done with this, time to pursue something in Politics! ROFL......this whole scenario seems like something from a badly written B movie! LMAO.....Hell even Swayze, Snipes, and Leguizamo didnt stoop to get surgery or take hormones in "To Wong Foo" LMAO


You know....thinking about it...i could easily write this movie...definitely a comedy lol way better than some bullshit Sandler fuck-up lol :D

Yeah, I know it sounds crazy. But it does happen. There are males who go on estrogen therapy but don't really identify as women. They don't tend to be very stable people in the first place.

You should turn it into a movie. I'd watch it. :P

Saint_Frankenstein
05-13-2013, 01:26 AM
All he asked for was an ID for a cute girl and he was polite and you fucks are turning someone he likes into target practice. Fucking assholes.

I'm not even talking about her specifically. I don't have anything against that girl. Her bone structure isn't her fault. Most transsexuals have issues with bone structure, whether male or female identified. So it's stupid to hold that against them, especially since I'm one of them. The ones I'm talking about tend to be middle aged white guys, but I know a few who are younger and one was a college student who was hooking.

Saint_Frankenstein
05-13-2013, 01:27 AM
Eva, I love your sense of humor. Lol. :)

EvaCassini
05-13-2013, 01:27 AM
hahahaa ...sweet! you know, i do have a great idea for a comic....ill get craking on it so you guys can enjoy it......it has to do with Don Knots ;)

EvaCassini
05-13-2013, 01:28 AM
Eva, I love your sense of humor. Lol. :)

Hahaa thanks hun ;) :wiggle:

Saint_Frankenstein
05-13-2013, 01:31 AM
hahahaa ...sweet! you know, i do have a great idea for a comic....ill get craking on it so you guys can enjoy it......it has to do with Don Knots ;)

I'm intrigued...yet vaguely scared...


Hahaa thanks hun ;) :wiggle:

:kiss: :D

EvaCassini
05-13-2013, 01:32 AM
hahahaha you like it! lol nothing sexual it in...maybe idk haha, but def with Don Knots ;)

MacShreach
05-13-2013, 01:33 AM
MacShreach - Kill yourself and go fuck your mother - moving along now
Don't let the door catch you! :dancing:

Saint_Frankenstein
05-13-2013, 01:36 AM
hahahaha you like it! lol nothing sexual it in...maybe idk haha, but def with Don Knots ;)

Yes, I'm worried if there's going to be a sexual aspect. But I'd still watch since I'm a pervert. :D

MacShreach
05-13-2013, 01:37 AM
I'm not even talking about her specifically. I don't have anything against that girl. Her bone structure isn't her fault. Most transsexuals have issues with bone structure, whether male or female identified. So it's stupid to hold that against them, especially since I'm one of them. The ones I'm talking about tend to be middle aged white guys, but I know a few who are younger and one was a college student who was hooking.
Yeah I specifically avoided comment about the girl too. Some folks are just sensitive.

Saint_Frankenstein
05-13-2013, 01:52 AM
To be fair to cross dressers, I have seen some beautiful ones. Lol.

Jimmy W
05-13-2013, 02:32 AM
No, I don't need a popsicle Eva. Ive been very positive with most of my posts and replies and if you look back you'll see I like you very much. This guy has TWO posts under his belt and people were already taking a shit on his idea of beauty and I think that I offered two polite responses before I felt that guy needed to be told to kill himself and fuck his mother. I've engaged in many debates on this forum both intellectual and fun and I thought it was the right thing to do to try and steer the 'conversation' back to his original question. I'm never opposed to discussion. Want to discuss hormones, and boobs, acne, and whatever - start a new thread. I will have much to offer and I hope I'm welcome.

drongo
05-13-2013, 02:54 AM
Hot...nice cock...

Dino Velvet
05-13-2013, 03:23 AM
hahahaa ...sweet! you know, i do have a great idea for a comic....ill get craking on it so you guys can enjoy it......it has to do with Don Knots ;)

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_H0W3McLw1L0/SjWtsHlLwsI/AAAAAAAAAYY/JFBWYLB805Y/s400/Page_1.jpg

Sulka_bewitched_me
05-13-2013, 03:43 AM
You must be gay. She's hot as hell.
Yea I'm gay surfing a TS girl site:dead: Anyways......the picture Dino posted of her yeah she looks incredible BUT photoshop and airbrushing photos can drastically alter the original picture. Compare her third picture posted by kenny90 and the one Dino posted and I think you can see my argument. Oh and for the record one person's beauty can be another person's Quasimodo

EvaCassini
05-13-2013, 04:32 AM
No, I don't need a popsicle Eva. Ive been very positive with most of my posts and replies and if you look back you'll see I like you very much. This guy has TWO posts under his belt and people were already taking a shit on his idea of beauty and I think that I offered two polite responses before I felt that guy needed to be told to kill himself and fuck his mother. I've engaged in many debates on this forum both intellectual and fun and I thought it was the right thing to do to try and steer the 'conversation' back to his original question. I'm never opposed to discussion. Want to discuss hormones, and boobs, acne, and whatever - start a new thread. I will have much to offer and I hope I'm welcome.

Yeah....but...his questioned was answered in like the first page.....so....the rest of the thread can be anything really...and plus, the "discussion" was basically about the topic at hand....

But yeah lol
I noticed you like me...i hope you like my new set i am currently shooting ;) but that IS for a different thread ;)...which will be coming soon ;)

danthepoetman
05-13-2013, 05:03 AM
No, I don't need a popsicle Eva. Ive been very positive with most of my posts and replies and if you look back you'll see I like you very much. This guy has TWO posts under his belt and people were already taking a shit on his idea of beauty and I think that I offered two polite responses before I felt that guy needed to be told to kill himself and fuck his mother. I've engaged in many debates on this forum both intellectual and fun and I thought it was the right thing to do to try and steer the 'conversation' back to his original question. I'm never opposed to discussion. Want to discuss hormones, and boobs, acne, and whatever - start a new thread. I will have much to offer and I hope I'm welcome.

Jimmy, you're overreacting. No one has been mean to him. Just a bit of humour and discussion. I don't see why you're getting so mad. You've been here since 2006? You must know that it's always like that around here. No?
Relax, friend.
You make it sound like he's little Kenny... :)

Saint_Frankenstein
05-13-2013, 07:52 AM
I don't know about y'all, but I'd LOVE a popsicle. Haven't had one in ages.

darky123
05-13-2013, 08:36 AM
total hot

danthepoetman
05-13-2013, 08:38 AM
I don't know about y'all, but I'd LOVE a popsicle. Haven't had one in ages.
:lol:
Saint Frank, may I tell you, you're not a saint... ;)

Saint_Frankenstein
05-13-2013, 08:48 AM
:lol:
Saint Frank, may I tell you, you're not a saint... ;)

I don't know what you're talking about. I'm just talkin' 'bout popsicles. :shrug:
https://meursaultcassiel.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/kiss-kara-sucking-popsicle-580.jpg

I'm a good Catholic boy. 0:>)

natina
05-13-2013, 09:01 AM
crossdressers get boob jobs,cheek ,chin ,lip,butt and hip work if they appear in pagents,balls and other events


lol most ( 99.999% ) ( im sure ) crossdressers...dont get boob jobs...kinda messes up that whole idea of "cross-dresser" HAHAHA

EvaCassini
05-13-2013, 11:33 AM
lets take the word and break it down....

Cross...Dresser................

Clothes are different then surgeries.

MacShreach
05-13-2013, 12:32 PM
No, I don't need a popsicle Eva. Ive been very positive with most of my posts and replies and if you look back you'll see I like you very much. This guy has TWO posts under his belt and people were already taking a shit on his idea of beauty and I think that I offered two polite responses before I felt that guy needed to be told to kill himself and fuck his mother. I've engaged in many debates on this forum both intellectual and fun and I thought it was the right thing to do to try and steer the 'conversation' back to his original question. I'm never opposed to discussion. Want to discuss hormones, and boobs, acne, and whatever - start a new thread. I will have much to offer and I hope I'm welcome.
If you're talking to me, pal. you should check your facts before opening your trap:

MacShreach: Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 4,328

Jimmy W:
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 593

I rarely pull seniority, but since you tried it on first, I will.

And your ad-hominem, intellectually bankrupt and spiteful comment about my mother is noted. You sound like a bitter old queen--are you? Now why don't YOU go and start a new thread to bitch about me, sunshine?

:fu:

MacShreach
05-13-2013, 12:44 PM
Ah just noticed he was sticking up for the rookie. But he's still a jerk.

danthepoetman
05-13-2013, 01:49 PM
Oh! MacShreach, you must be talking about one of your multiple trip to Thailand, don't you? You're so incredibly knowledgeable... We all bent, we all assume the position in front of you!

danthepoetman
05-13-2013, 01:54 PM
Tell me, Macman, was it the time you met Moo?
Was it after she got he "nose" surgery or after?

danthepoetman
05-13-2013, 01:58 PM
Stand back, everybody, MacShreach is going to tell us all how things are -or aren't...HE KNOWS, he's been in Thailand twice =just this year...

danthepoetman
05-13-2013, 02:00 PM
MacShreach, you're my favourite pussy, man!

MacShreach
05-13-2013, 02:44 PM
Quite finished with our little tantrum, have we?

danthepoetman
05-13-2013, 03:05 PM
Macbaby, I just love you! don't get me wrong. You are so kowledgeable and all! I love you, baby! You're my favourite, here... <3
COME ON, LET'S TALK...

MacShreach
05-13-2013, 03:11 PM
Macbaby, I just love you! don't get me wrong. You are so kowledgeable and all! I love you, baby! You're my favourite, here... <3
COME ON, LET'S TALK...
Er, no, thanks all the same.;)

danthepoetman
05-13-2013, 03:27 PM
MacShreach, come on! you're my hero! You know so much! YOU THE MAN HERE! With all these trips to Thailand and all, I know you are so much more knowledgeable than all of us here! Don't deprive us of your wisdom, sweetheart, please! I mean it...

ImpulZ
05-13-2013, 03:31 PM
lol :D

Prospero
05-13-2013, 03:31 PM
Hey Dan... chill out

EvaCassini
05-13-2013, 06:53 PM
Hey guys! Good morning! What did I miss....oh.........damn.....




lol

kenny90
05-13-2013, 09:29 PM
Wow, this is a hell of a debate, enough to give Ms Gisele a nice hard-on. At least I found out her name, and many thanks to all concerned.

I'm glad aesthetics are so passionately felt around here! As for Gisele, I'd sniff her panties any old day of the week.

Jericho
05-13-2013, 09:55 PM
I'm glad aesthetics are so passionately felt around here! As for Gisele, I'd sniff her panties any old day of the week.

Not that I'm equating the two but, If Tom Moore was wearing panties, would you sniff them?

MacShreach
05-13-2013, 09:57 PM
Wow, this is a hell of a debate, enough to give Ms Gisele a nice hard-on. At least I found out her name, and many thanks to all concerned.

I'm glad aesthetics are so passionately felt around here! As for Gisele, I'd sniff her panties any old day of the week.

Lad!:party:

kenny90
05-13-2013, 10:24 PM
Not that I'm equating the two but, If Tom Moore was wearing panties, would you sniff them?

If that's what it took to get access to Ms Gisele's, then, I guess that... Hey, wait a minute, HELL NO!!

(I'm relieved that the two aren't equated.)

EvaCassini
05-13-2013, 10:49 PM
laughing out loud, silently in my head... :p

Jimmy W
05-15-2013, 06:09 AM
Ah just noticed he was sticking up for the rookie. But he's still a jerk.

MacShreach owes JimmyW an apology whether he agrees with me or not.

EvaCassini
05-15-2013, 06:11 AM
hahahaha ...just thought i'd pop in and say hey..."Hey!" :D

Jimmy W
05-15-2013, 06:17 AM
Jimmy, you're overreacting. No one has been mean to him. Just a bit of humour and discussion. I don't see why you're getting so mad. You've been here since 2006? You must know that it's always like that around here. No?
Relax, friend.

Message received Dan, maybe I came on too strong but my intent was simply to show support for a new type. I love and adore you Eva. Always will. Unless someone takes a shot at me again, I go bye bye now from this thread. Have fun.

Jimmy W
05-15-2013, 06:20 AM
...did I mention I love Eva Cassini?

Jimmy W
05-15-2013, 06:21 AM
....and that now I have a whopping 598 posts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

danthepoetman
05-15-2013, 12:48 PM
Jimmy, you're overreacting. No one has been mean to him. Just a bit of humour and discussion. I don't see why you're getting so mad. You've been here since 2006? You must know that it's always like that around here. No?
Relax, friend.

Message received Dan, maybe I came on too strong but my intent was simply to show support for a new type. I love and adore you Eva. Always will. Unless someone takes a shot at me again, I go bye bye now from this thread. Have fun.
We all know you're a good guy, Jimmy! And you're right, we should have at least welcome Kenny!
Kenny, keep posting! keep your interrest on!
:)

Jimmy W
05-16-2013, 05:50 AM
Thank you for the kind words DanThePoetMan. And thanks for being the voice of reason I can count on for whenever I fly off the handle without thinking first.

EvaCassini
05-16-2013, 06:24 AM
HEY!!!! ....just thought i'd drop in and say hey ..... :D XOXO