Within Two Years Will All TS Porn Be Bareback?

[Westheangelino]

I've noted on this forum before the sudden proliferation of barebacking in TS porn especially as it relates to girls topping guys. When I became interested in this type of porn nearly a decade ago, you almost NEVER saw a Tgirl topping a guy rawdog. It was also not the norm for guys to top girls bareback. However, in just the last year, I've seen the explosion (no pun intended) of bareback girl on guy topping scenes. When I go on a tube site, I now EXPECT clips for certain studios (Kink,Evil Angel) to be bareback. There are a couple models that I don't think I have ever seen use a condom.

So, given that the internet takes trends and runs with them and things that weren't around yesterday become the new normal in such a short time (facebook anyone?) will all or at least a majority of TS porn be bareback within another couple of years? If so, what are the implications and why is it? Is it taking risk to satisfy a huge demand? Is it because of cheap access to the NAAT/PCR test, which detects HIV virus rather than antibodies meaning the infection/detection window is as little as ten days? Is sex on camera actually the safest sex you can have?

[Merkurie]

I don't get the "special appeal" of watching bareback porn. Who cares that the performers are wearing condoms or going raw? I hardly notice that someone in porn is wearing a condom.

[AmyDaly]

There are some people who feel that they need to pressure girls in to doing bareback and I am sure that contributes to it.

[tranlove]

I wouldn't stick my cock bare on any strage hole

[christianxxx]

TS girls now more than ever are becoming more included in mainstream porn. Part of that inclusion, means that more TS girls than ever before go test each month at CET or TTS, the centers where GG and male performers test for HIV, clamydia, gonorrhea, and syphilis.

So if 99% of GG anal sex is bareback bc both partners are currently tested, then it stands to reason that the more TS girls are tested, the more that TS girls utilize that test and perform non-condom scenes.

It seems ridiculous to pay 120 bucks each month to get tested and then use condoms all the time. Why test month after month AND use condoms? seems redundant.

I can't speak to what Amy is talking about in her post. I only know that I believe that the TS girls who get tested are just as clean and safe as the GG girls who get tested. So if I am doing non-condom with a GG, it stands to reason that I would do non-condom with a TS girl as well.

That being said, Devil's Films will always be condom, everyone else will be the option of the performer doing the scene.

Personally, clearly non-condom feels better and makes the scene easier & much more pleasurable. I also think it sells better, but I am not in a position to make that statement of fact, its just my opinion.

One last thing, the OP mentions "cheap access to PCR tests" - huh? out of the closet in west hollywood has a free rapid HIV test that is not allowed for non-condom scenes. 120 bucks is a lot more than free. where does "cheap access" come from? i guess you are playing dumb in some sort of a devil's advocate type statement.

[christianxxx]

and before anyone starts blabbering on about the infection window etc. etc. - the large majority of girls test every month. so if they have a long history of being clean, and I have a long history of being clean, and we then do a scene in that 30 day window, and that scene is part of 20 i do each month, and its part of 10 the girl does each month, well then i feel like the percentages of a disastrous occurrence happening are extremely low.

I have said this before...I have been doing this for 11 years and over 2000 scenes. I am not chasing anything, I am not reckless, and I don't have a death wish. I lower the odds of something bad happening to me as much as possible and go from there.

In reality, I have been quarantined one time over the course of my career and it was bc my partner had syphilis and it was a condom scene (which is skin to skin and condoms don't help). I could go on and on about this subject, but no thanks.

[Ms.Stepford]

As someone who has sex with a few new people every week, I'd like to see safe sex promoted more as a positive lifestyle choice so that people stop thinking there's something more authentic and hot about risky sexual practice.

[Kevin Dong]

and before anyone starts blabbering on about the infection window etc. etc. - the large majority of girls test every month. so if they have a long history of being clean, and I have a long history of being clean, and we then do a scene in that 30 day window, and that scene is part of 20 i do each month, and its part of 10 the girl does each month, well then i feel like the percentages of a disastrous occurrence happening are extremely low.

I have said this before...I have been doing this for 11 years and over 2000 scenes. I am not chasing anything, I am not reckless, and I don't have a death wish. I lower the odds of something bad happening to me as much as possible and go from there.

In reality, I have been quarantined one time over the course of my career and it was bc my partner had syphilis and it was a condom scene (which is skin to skin and condoms don't help). I could go on and on about this subject, but no thanks.

let's go get a shwarma

[AmyDaly]

and before anyone starts blabbering on about the infection window etc. etc. - the large majority of girls test every month. so if they have a long history of being clean, and I have a long history of being clean, and we then do a scene in that 30 day window, and that scene is part of 20 i do each month, and its part of 10 the girl does each month, well then i feel like the percentages of a disastrous occurrence happening are extremely low.

I have said this before...I have been doing this for 11 years and over 2000 scenes. I am not chasing anything, I am not reckless, and I don't have a death wish. I lower the odds of something bad happening to me as much as possible and go from there.

In reality, I have been quarantined one time over the course of my career and it was bc my partner had syphilis and it was a condom scene (which is skin to skin and condoms don't help). I could go on and on about this subject, but no thanks.

Would you knowingly work with someone who had herpes if it didn't seem like they were having an outbreak?

[christianxxx]

if you have done any more than 2 scenes in porno - you basically tell yourself that EVERYONE you work with has herpes. i have been lucky enough to avoid it somehow. but i am curious as to why you ask? in what universe are condoms going to stop the spread of herpes from skin to skin contact? maybe in real life 4-5 minute sex, but foreplay, oral, and 25-30 penetrative sex?

[GroobySteven]

Would you knowingly work with someone who had herpes if it didn't seem like they were having an outbreak?

With people carrying the herpes virus running around the 1 in 3 mark, if you're having sex with anyone, sex worker or not, protected or not, if you're not carrying the virus yourself then you have a 33% chance of having sex with someone who has.

[Willie Escalade]

When doctors perfect sex packets, condoms - and intercourse in general - wont be needed.

Sex Packets - Digital Underground - YouTube (www.youtube.com/watch?v=P53mWKRWaao)

[Ms.Stepford]

I want it to be known that I liked Willie Escalade's post.

[Wendy Summers]

With people carrying the herpes virus running around the 1 in 3 mark, if you're having sex with anyone, sex worker or not, protected or not, if you're not carrying the virus yourself then you have a 33% chance of having sex with someone who has.

THIS.

It amazes me that folks who are actively in porn don't get this fact. The risk of STDs are part and parcel of what we all sign up for. We can and should practice safe sex both on and off screen - all common sense rules apply.

If you aren't comfortable with this risk, then don't shoot hardcore.

[Sulka_bewitched_me]

The Dutch are on to a potential cure for HIV/AIDS so if their research turns out to be a cure then I GUARANTEE that the porn industry and its performers will go back to being condom free regardless of the STD thing. So....to answer the original OP's question: yes TS porn as will all porn will most likely be bareback. As to if it's in two years well that depends on how long the medical trials for efficacy take.

[MacShreach]

The Dutch are on to a potential cure for HIV/AIDS so if their research turns out to be a cure then I GUARANTEE that the porn industry and its performers will go back to being condom free regardless of the STD thing. So....to answer the original OP's question: yes TS porn as will all porn will most likely be bareback. As to if it's in two years well that depends on how long the medical trials for efficacy take.

I'm not having a go at you but honestly, in what other industry would 'oh there's a cure now' equate to 'it's all right to get people sick from formerly incurable diseases.' I can't think of one.

Don't get me wrong, I like to bareback in my personal life (as long as the circumstances are apporpriate) and in porn I admit I do like to see it. Furthermore I respect Christian's pov both as an actor and as a man--bareback is definitely more enjoyable and much, much more intimate.

I'm just pointing out that porn is an industry, not some backyard DIY business as it might have been 25 years ago. Essentially, the fact that there is a cure is--or should be--irrelevant to the working conditions of professionals in that industry, not a 'hey we can forget all that shit now' get-out-of-jail-free card for anyone.

So all the checks and balances, the routine testing, the quarantine for non-aids STDs and all the other safety measures should stay in place even if there is a cure. Very welcome, but should be seen as the never-to-be-used-but-it's-good-to-know-it's-there backstop.

[Westheangelino]

Christian, thank you for all your insights! I think I said "relative" cheapness of NAAT/PCR, if I didn't let me clarify that now. I get regular tests at the L.A. GLBT center, which gives FREE NAAT! Now, obviously this would not count as a cert for a porn producer, but even at $120, it is relatively cheap compared to the huge costs it used to entail.

As per the poster talking "cures", well, don't hold your breath. We are probably closer now than even since the first know US cases of AIDS to an HIV cure, BUT we are AT LEAST ten years away from anything hitting the market, and that is being very optimistic. In the meantime I hope that the medical industrial complex will respond to the demand for a cheap and rapid testing method. We have seen oraquick hit the market, but that is basically an at home version of the outdated antibody tests. Imagine how awesome an affordable, at home NAAT would be??? Pass the poppers!

[dakota87]

"Worse than AIDS"....
http://www.cnbc.com/id/100685883

An antibiotic-resistant strain of gonorrhea—now considered a superbug—has some analysts saying that the bacteria's effects could match those of AIDS.

"This might be a lot worse than AIDS in the short run because the bacteria is more aggressive and will affect more people quickly," said Alan Christianson, a doctor of naturopathic medicine.
Even though nearly 30 million people have died from AIDS related causes worldwide, Christianson believes the effect of the gonorrhea bacteria is more direct.

"Getting gonorrhea from this strain might put someone into septic shock and death in a matter of days," Christianson said. "This is very dangerous."

"It's an emergency situation," said William Smith, executive director of the National Coalition of STD Directors. "As time moves on, it's getting more hazardous."
This gonorrhea strain, HO41, was discovered in Japan two years ago in a 31-year-old female sex worker who had been screened in 2009. The bacteria has since been found in Hawaii, California and Norway.

Because it resists current antibiotic treatment, the strain has been placed in the superbug category with other resistant bacteria, such as MRSA and CRE. These superbugs kill about half the people they attack, and nearly one in 20 hospital patients become infected with one, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Though no deaths from HO41 have been reported, efforts to combat it must continue, Smith said.
"We have to keep beating the drum on this," he said. "The potential for disaster is great."

According to the CDC, about 20 million a year contract a sexually transmitted disease (STD) and result in about $16 billion in medical costs. More than 800,000 of STD cases reported are gonorrhea infections, with most occurring in people between the ages of 15 and 24.

(Read More: Superbugs Are a 'Costly War We Can't Win': Doctors)
Gonorrhea is transmitted through unprotected sexual contact. Untreated, the disease can cause a number of health complications in women, including infertility. In men, the disease can be very painful and lead to sterility. It can also trigger other life-threatening illnesses, including heart infections.

Gonorrhea can be hard to detect. It often shows no symptoms in about half of women and in about 5 percent of men. Gonorrhea infection rates were at historic lows until two years ago, according to the CDC.

"That's what's kind of scary about this," Smith said. "We are at lows in terms of infections, but this strain is a very tricky bug and we don't have anything medically to fight it right now."

Since 1998, the Food and Drug Administration has approved only four new antibiotics of any kind, according to the Infectious Disease Society of America. The last approval was in 2010. Only seven antibiotics are in an advanced stage of development—still years away from approval and use.

Recognizing the problem, Congress passed a law last year referred to as the Gain Act (Generating Antibiotics Incentives Now) to help speed antibiotic development.

(Read more: Big Pharma Exit: Who's Fighting the Superbugs?)

But Smith said more needs to be done. In a briefing on Capitol Hill last week, he urged Congress to target nearly $54 million in immediate funding to help find an antibiotic for HO41 and to conduct an education and public awareness campaign.

"I'm hopeful we'll get the additional funds, but I can't say for sure," Smith said. "What I do know is we don't have the resources to fight this as it stands now."

Avoiding the disease completely is the best course, experts said.

"People need to practice safe sex, like always," Christianson said. "Anyone beginning a new relationship should get tested along with their partner. The way gonorrhea works, not everyone knows they have it. And with this new strain it's even more important than ever to find out. "

All superbugs must be dealt with before it's too late, he said.

(Read More: Antibiotic-Resistant 'Superbugs' Creep Into Nation's Food Supply)

"This is a disaster just waiting to happen," Christianson said. "It's time to do something about it before it explodes. "These superbugs, including the gonorrhea strain, are a health threat. We need to move now before it gets out of hand."

[christianxxx]

its been 120 bucks since 1999 at the AIM clinic in Van Nuys and now the CET and TTS clinics. thats about 15 years. not exactly a new thing.

[Merkurie]

Having sex is intimate enough with someone you may or may not ever see again in life. I don't need to trade creampies to feel intimate with a fuck partner. Bareback sex is too fucking intimate for me in this day and age -- unless we are at the going to be together when the doctor bills come in.

Bareback ass fucking is a commitment whether you want to believe it or not. I do not expect actors to take that risk just so I can get an extra thrill watching a porno.

[natina]

manny people have been exposed to hiv,herpes and many viruses and pathogen and have not gotten it.

there is a test




Bareback porn is killing our community and you're to blame

Bareback porn is killing porn stars.

Chad Noel's March 17 death was reported on at GayPornGossip on March 26. The posting read, "Chad Noel age 25, a former 'twink genre' gay porn performer using the stage names of Donny Price & Craven Cox passed away in New York City, on March 17, 2010 following a brief illness associated with complications of HIV." The article also noted that Noel had worked for an adult entertainment company that makes videos of men barebacking--a euphemism for unprotected anal sex. Noel had also performed under the names Craven Cox and Donny Price. Noel was a native of Laramie, Wyoming, the town outside of which Matthew Shepard was beaten and left to die. A notice of Noel's death was also published in the Laramie Boomerang on March 23.

It is likely that starring in bareback porn starting at 18 will lead to HIV/AIDS, but is the glorification of unprotected sex through the porn industry also leading to an increase in HIV/AIDS related diagnosis among young gay men throughout the country?

Chad Noel's untimely death is symptomatic of a growing problem in our community. HIV is on the rise for young people, and the glorification of unprotected sex in gay porn is part of the problem.

When did porn stars start shedding their condoms for riskier bareback sex? Most of the major labels like Titan, Bel Ami, Lucas Films, and Chi-Chi-La Rue all require their actors to wear protection during production. They understand that not only are their films entertainment, but they are educational.

Proper sex education is lacking in our schools. It has been ever since George W. Bush replaced sex education with "Abstinence Only" education. Fortunately I was taught about sex pre George W. Bush. My mom was a sex education teacher and helped design the curriculum in the school system I attended. Every student learned about condom use, and was shown an awkward demonstration about how to put a condom on a banana.

Most free gay porn sites are full of bareback sex porn -- the kind of porn that killed young Chad Noel. Why are these sites promoting bareback sex? Because that's what people are looking for...

The glorification of bareback porn is a dangerous development
http://www.bilerico.com/2010/04/is_bareback_porn_killing_our_community.php



With people carrying the herpes virus running around the 1 in 3 mark, if you're having sex with anyone, sex worker or not, protected or not, if you're not carrying the virus yourself then you have a 33% chance of having sex with someone who has.

[AmyDaly]

I ask because I was just curious on how you felt on it. Personally, if I knew a performer had it, I wouldn't work with them. I think its wrong to hide it from people you are working with. I am not completely educated on the topic, but from the little searching I did, it seems like condoms at least reduce the risk of contracting it. I know there are a lot of people who have it, but I don't see anything wrong with doing all you can to reduce the risk. That includes not working with performers who have it. But I guess that is why they hide it.

Hopefully this thread doesn't get ruined by the Natina youtube and article spam. It is a good thread.

[AmyDaly]

THIS.

It amazes me that folks who are actively in porn don't get this fact. The risk of STDs are part and parcel of what we all sign up for. We can and should practice safe sex both on and off screen - all common sense rules apply.

If you aren't comfortable with this risk, then don't shoot hardcore.

Is that supposed to mean that we shouldn't try and limit the amount of possible exposure? Your comment actually concerns me because it shows the attitude of a lot of the people. The risk of STD's are a part of life because nearly everyone has sex. There is risk in everything we do. Just because we choose to drive doesn't mean we should accept the risk of getting into an accident and just say fuck it when it comes to wearing a seat belt. No. We put on our seatbelt. We drive a safe speed. We do all we can not to die behind the wheel. Why should sex be any different than any other risk we taken in life?

There was an interesting article in the huffington post recently. Here is a quote from it: "Professional porn actors are 80 percent less likely to have an STD than members of the public of the same age". I don't know what their source was, but if this is true, than the whole just accept the risk of being a adult performer argument isn't a very strong one.

"If you aren't comfortable with this risk, then don't shoot hardcore" - That is like saying: If you aren't comfortable with the risk of getting an std, don't have sex at all. Following this logic, then why do anything? Why drive? We can crash. Why eat? We can choke? Why breathe? Possible carbon monoxide. Just because one wishes to be more safe doesn't mean they should just give it up completely.

I've shot plenty of bareback. However, if I see something weird that looks like an STD I will not do it. If I find out someone has an STD, I won't shoot with them. That seems pretty reasonable. If you are open to shooting with people who have STD's and are willing to spread it around yourself, then....I don't know what that says about a person who is like that.

source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/29/ten-porn-industry-facts-all-time-10s-video_n_2039449.html

[MacShreach]

Having sex is intimate enough with someone you may or may not ever see again in life. I don't need to trade creampies to feel intimate with a fuck partner. Bareback sex is too fucking intimate for me in this day and age -- unless we are at the going to be together when the doctor bills come in.

Bareback ass fucking is a commitment whether you want to believe it or not. I do not expect actors to take that risk just so I can get an extra thrill watching a porno.

Absolutely agree. It's why I'm not buying, and haven't for a long time now--over 5 years. I have nothing against it--the opposite in fact--but I am more interested in the emotional charge than simple despunkification.

[Westheangelino]

its been 120 bucks since 1999 at the AIM clinic in Van Nuys and now the CET and TTS clinics. thats about 15 years. not exactly a new thing.

And that has always included the NAAT? Honestly, I had no idea! Makes me even more curious about the recent changes. Perhaps everyone needed a decade+ to see that it works just fine for straight porn.

[Sulka_bewitched_me]

'oh there's a cure now' equate to 'it's all right to get people sick from formerly incurable diseases.'


STD's were around since the beginning of porn especially in the 80's or otherwise known as "The Golden Years of Porn". That being said, there were condoms around back then but how often did you see performers use them? Almost never. So I'm sorry to say but even 25 years ago it was an industry too and there was a general lack of concern for performers health be it from the performers themselves or the studios that produced the flicks. Maybe the performers were tested for STD's but probably nothing like they are today. Now factor in that there's a potential cure for HIV/AIDS around the corner and unfortunately either the actors, studios or both will in fact view a cure as "a get out of jail free card" and more than likely standards will start to fall to the wayside. And I don't understand your argument 'oh there's a cure now' equate to 'it's all right to get people sick from formerly incurable diseases.' If it's a 'cured' disease then how are people going to get sick from it? Yea they contract it but they know in the back of their minds that they just need the vaccine and poof........problem solved. Kind of like the day after pill.

[Sulka_bewitched_me]

STD's were around since the beginning of porn especially in the 80's or otherwise known as "The Golden Years of Porn". That being said, there were condoms around back then but how often did you see performers use them? Almost never. So I'm sorry to say but even 25 years ago it was an industry too and there was a general lack of concern for performers health be it from the performers themselves or the studios that produced the flicks. Maybe the performers were tested for STD's but probably nothing like they are today. Now factor in that there's a potential cure for HIV/AIDS around the corner and unfortunately either the actors, studios or both will in fact view a cure as "a get out of jail free card" and more than likely standards will start to fall to the wayside. And I don't understand your argument of 'oh there's a cure now' equate to 'it's all right to get people sick from formerly incurable diseases.' If it's a 'cured' disease then how are people going to get sick from it? I would think that if one is in the porn industry and know the assumed risks they would probably get a preventative vaccine (if in fact the potential cure is capable of working to make the body immune to HIV/AIDS before one contracts it. And if not then it's a failsafe) Yea they contract it but they know in the back of their minds that they just need the vaccine and poof........problem solved. Kind of like the day after pill. Sorry for the double post but I wasn't able to re-edit in time.

[Tyler___Durden]

the sudden proliferation of barebacking in TS porn
why is it?
Staying ahead of the HIV+ infection curve.
Porn does, society follows.

I went to a friends wedding reception the other day.
A few years ago this type of thing would have had a load of people dancing and eating a meal.
What did happen was some two handed anal fisting!
I blame porn.

Kids today...

[Prospero]

I went to a friends wedding reception the other day.
A few years ago this type of thing would have had a load of people dancing and eating a meal.
What did happen was some two handed anal fisting!
I blame porn.

Kids today...

Tyler....
Am I missing some irony or sarcasm here?

[Tyler___Durden]

...cheap access to the NAAT/PCR test, which detects HIV virus rather than antibodies meaning the infection/detection window is as little as ten days? Is sex on camera actually the safest sex you can have?
No.
Wanking off over the sex scenes, on your 'puter
is actually the safest sex you can have. http://serve.mysmiley.net/winking/winking0071.gif

[TSBootyLondon]

I bloody hope not!
However what I will say is that porn production companies (The ones that are worth their weight in salt anyway) have very strict processes in place when making such movies...
Those taking part will be tested and given the all clear before saddling up (couldn't resist)!

I would go bloody ballistic if I found out that one of my girls was or had gone bare back, I am always lecturing them about safe sex, HIV, Aids etc! I bore them endlessly about kooties,
One of my girls hosts a monthly check-up clinic at her apartment where a nurse calls around and tests those who want to be tested...
Its open to all London asian females and TS' not just London Ladyboys...

xx B

[Tyler___Durden]

I've shot plenty of bareback. However, if I see something weird that looks like an STD I will not do it. If I find out someone has an STD, I won't shoot with them. That seems pretty reasonable. If you are open to shooting with people who have STD's and are willing to spread it around yourself, then....I don't know what that says about a person who is like that.
I'm a UK Provider and outside rape, I've not ever been involved in BB sex.
I'm exactly the same approach as you with clients....If they reveal that they have an STI, I don't contract with them.
If something looks wrong down there? I don't contract with them, either.

Trouble is, 90% of STI incidents, have no external indicator. You just don't know.

[Tyler___Durden]

Tyler....
Am I missing some irony or sarcasm here?
My kin like to party hard...http://serve.mysmiley.net/innocent/innocent0009.gif

[Prospero]

Wicked Tyler.....

[Tyler___Durden]

Guess what I got delivered this morning...
http://tinyurl.com/bnwhwwc

[johnnydepth]

From what ive read 90% of porn stars have herpes. Maybe thats only in striaght porn. But my question is do porn stars test for herpes? I have heard they don,t. And just assuming you dont have it because youve never had an outbreak doesnt mean you dont have it.

[AmyDaly]

From what ive read 90% of porn stars have herpes. Maybe thats only in striaght porn. But my question is do porn stars test for herpes? I have heard they don,t. And just assuming you dont have it because youve never had an outbreak doesnt mean you dont have it.

I am pretty sure this is not even close to true. In the 5 years I've been working, I've personally only seen something strange twice, which turned out not to be anything at all but skin imperfections. Christian could have better anecdotal evidence though hes done more scenes than most people working.

[AmyDaly]

Here something interesting:
-Mr Marcus' attorney uses the same thing that Wendy said. I really don't think that just for the fact that you work in porn means when someone withholds information, it doesn't mean they can't be held accountable for it.

http://www.xbiz.com/news/162361

LOS ANGELES — Mr. Marcus' attorney says that performer Lylith LaVey's emotional distress suit against the male porn star at center of last year's syphilis-infection outbreak is full of holes because she knew the risks involved in shoots.

LaVey filed suit in September alleging emotional distress stemming from a June 24 Bang Bros shoot involving herself and Mr. Marcus. The suit filed at Van Nuys Superior Court surfaced after MikeSouth.com posted a case summary of it yesterday.

In the Bang Bros video, LaVey could be seen giving fellatio to Mr. Marcus, whose penis clearly showed evidence of a possible STD.

Mr. Marcus, in a previous interview with XBIZ, said the sores at the time looked more like a skin irritation. “It looked like a patch of rough skin, like maybe a reaction to some kind of lube that irritated me," he previously told XBIZ.

While the case is in its early discovery phases, the emotional distress case hinges on LeVey's claim that Mr. Marcus didn't inform the female performer that he had earlier contracted a sexually transmitted, according to Mr. Marcus attorney Martin Cutler.

"In my 24 years of practicing law, I have never seen a more frivolous case against a defendant than this one," Cutler told XBIZ. "There was an assumption of risk in the case of the shoot. She's a porn actress — she knew what she was getting into."

Los Angeles' adult film industry expressed sharp emotions over the syphilis outbreak last year that put livelihoods on pause during a performance moratorium.

At the epicenter of the outbreak was Mr. Marcus, who on Aug. 21 admitted he had performed in three sex scenes after doctoring his STI test to conceal that he had contracted syphilis. The revelation struck the adult film community as a betrayal and reaction was swift and merciless.

While Marcus drew the brunt of people’s outrage, many also suggested that industry testing lab Talent Testing Services and the Free Speech Coalition’s Adult Production Health & Safety Services mishandled the crisis due to “politics.”

LaVey did not respond to XBIZ calls over the suit. Her attorney, Adam Rose, could not be contacted.

[christianxxx]

this is an interesting lawsuit to be sure - IMHO

1. the lawyer is correct - lylith knew the inherent risks of doing a scene in porno
2. mr. marcus has been in the biz 18 years and he doesn't know his reaction to lubes? cmon now son
3. rough patch of skin? it was sores from tip to shaft to ball sack of his cock - another lie
4. mr. marcus is full of shit - he knew he had a syphilis outbreak at the time - he just wanted/needed to make the 500 bucks for the scene
5. thats why she thinks she can win, if she can prove the date of his positive syphilis test was before the date of the scene shot, then she has a case

I am surprised she didn't sue the director or the company. the director allowed the scene to happen and he MUST have saw the bumps on his cock and never stopped the scene?

The company when the scene was delivered to them, while they were edited the stills and the video, no one stopped and asked what the fuck was going on with his cock? the guy who uploads the scene onto the server? the guy who posts the scene on the site itself? the guy who makes the previews, tgp, etc? no one said anything to anyone? strange

[nysprod]

I am pretty sure this is not even close to true. In the 5 years I've been working, I've personally only seen something strange twice, which turned out not to be anything at all but skin imperfections. Christian could have better anecdotal evidence though hes done more scenes than most people working.

Most of the time, you don't have outbreaks when you have herpes...and anit-viral meds decrease outbreaks even further

[danthepoetman]

Dr. Dre - Still D.R.E. ft. Snoop Dogg - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CL6n0FJZpk)

[Westheangelino]

Herpes really ain't that big a deal. Most people who are infected NEVER get an outbreak. When I was a kid I envisioned herpes being multiple outbreaks a year that lasted weeks at a time, sores all over you junk.

Testing for the herp is expensive and sometimes inconclusive (maybe you just have been carrying the mouth herpes and test positive for genital with no outbreaks).

[fred41]

Herpes really ain't that big a deal. Most people who are infected NEVER get an outbreak. When I was a kid I envisioned herpes being multiple outbreaks a year that lasted weeks at a time, sores all over you junk.

Testing for the herp is expensive and sometimes inconclusive (maybe you just have been carrying the mouth herpes and test positive for genital with no outbreaks).

There are a couple of doctors that specialize in this and can tell you if you have simplex one or two or both.I know of one in N.Y. that is excellent.
...but many people have simplex one on their genitals so that a test could tell you what simplex you have,but not where you have it.
I have simplex 1 on my mouth since early childhood...from what I read more Americans have it than don't...there's no real stigma to having a blister on your lip. I suspect eventually any stigma for genital herpes will disappear too...since the viruses are the same or similar just different locations.

[RadiusDark]

With people carrying the herpes virus running around the 1 in 3 mark, if you're having sex with anyone, sex worker or not, protected or not, if you're not carrying the virus yourself then you have a 33% chance of having sex with someone who has.

As if I needed another reason to keep not having sex!