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GroobySteven
04-14-2013, 10:21 PM
This goes to either all you wannabe producers complaining that you can't find the porn that you want, or the people who believe that the porn they would produce is what everyone wants to see. Otherwise, those with a good idea can also take advantage of it. Put your money where your mouth is.

1. Come up with your idea. It can either be a one-off scene or a whole DVD.
2. Detail the models in it, the scene/s, costumes, locations, etc. As much detail as you possibly can. Also incl. the producer you'd prefer (Grooby producer or freelance) - or if you plan to do it yourself.
3. I'll come up with a budget and I'll publish all the details of what is needed here and on my blog.
4. You invest part of the money in the scene/s and then go and try and get other people who you know will love the scene, to invest.
5. Once the budget it met, we'll get the scene/s made.
6. All investors will get a copy of the scene/s.
7. The scene/s or DVD will be sold and profits will be shared amongst the investors based on the amount of initial investment.

There you go - put your money where your mouth is and see what you can do.

Willie Escalade
04-14-2013, 10:28 PM
This is gonna get good. You've already used one of "my" ideas, so I won't be participating...

f-finger
04-14-2013, 10:32 PM
The scenes I would like to see will hardly hit a critical mass. Namely, a Rocco Siffredi type of scene with, let's say, Celeste, getting fucked roughly with anal gaping.

Willie Escalade
04-14-2013, 10:41 PM
The scenes I would like to see will hardly hit a critical mass. Namely, a Rocco Siffredi type of scene with, let's say, Celeste, getting fucked roughly with anal gaping.
Unfortunately that won't be happening anytime soon...which is a shame. I'd pay to see that.

LexusFire
04-14-2013, 10:57 PM
Now this is a cracking idea!
Im definitely involved in this one, but must think of a good idea.
Think, think, think...

christianxxx
04-14-2013, 11:14 PM
just a quick word of advice. the most important part of this scene isn't the scenario but the girl. Find a girl that is brand new and gorgeous and it will make money. Shoot an already shot model for her 35th scene and it won't make much.

VictoriaVeil
04-14-2013, 11:40 PM
This goes to either all you wannabe producers complaining that you can't find the porn that you want, or the people who believe that the porn they would produce is what everyone wants to see. Otherwise, those with a good idea can also take advantage of it. Put your money where your mouth is.

1. Come up with your idea. It can either be a one-off scene or a whole DVD.
2. Detail the models in it, the scene/s, costumes, locations, etc. As much detail as you possibly can. Also incl. the producer you'd prefer (Grooby producer or freelance) - or if you plan to do it yourself.
3. I'll come up with a budget and I'll publish all the details of what is needed here and on my blog.
4. You invest part of the money in the scene/s and then go and try and get other people who you know will love the scene, to invest.
5. Once the budget it met, we'll get the scene/s made.
6. All investors will get a copy of the scene/s.
7. The scene/s or DVD will be sold and profits will be shared amongst the investors based on the amount of initial investment.

There you go - put your money where your mouth is and see what you can do.

Serious? Hope so.

thegatoman
04-14-2013, 11:47 PM
I don't care what happens as long as she has on jewelry
you know yellow gold guadie jewelry (nothing to dainty your not a little girl, obviously). Get a yellow gold cluster ring and make your claws look appealing.

And since I'm a ts director now.... put you hands on your hip like super women from time to time (it's more ladylike) ladies ladies....if your getting a blowjob hands on hips

I'm just ranting
And ijs (I'm just saying)

Westheangelino
04-15-2013, 12:12 AM
Any voltunteers to gangbang creampie me????

Willie Escalade
04-15-2013, 12:14 AM
just a quick word of advice. the most important part of this scene isn't the scenario but the girl. Find a girl that is brand new and gorgeous and it will make money. Shoot an already shot model for her 35th scene and it won't make much.

Unfortunately I can think of at least eight local gals I'd LOVE to see in a scene that would never do it.

flabbybody
04-15-2013, 12:32 AM
cool idea.
gotta feeling I know who prompted it.

Fancy fancy
04-15-2013, 12:54 AM
How about Transexual Backpacker's 1 starring Evonrose?




This goes to either all you wannabe producers complaining that you can't find the porn that you want, or the people who believe that the porn they would produce is what everyone wants to see. Otherwise, those with a good idea can also take advantage of it. Put your money where your mouth is.

1. Come up with your idea. It can either be a one-off scene or a whole DVD.
2. Detail the models in it, the scene/s, costumes, locations, etc. As much detail as you possibly can. Also incl. the producer you'd prefer (Grooby producer or freelance) - or if you plan to do it yourself.
3. I'll come up with a budget and I'll publish all the details of what is needed here and on my blog.
4. You invest part of the money in the scene/s and then go and try and get other people who you know will love the scene, to invest.
5. Once the budget it met, we'll get the scene/s made.
6. All investors will get a copy of the scene/s.
7. The scene/s or DVD will be sold and profits will be shared amongst the investors based on the amount of initial investment.

There you go - put your money where your mouth is and see what you can do.

Quiet Reflections
04-15-2013, 01:21 AM
Great idea, I would love to hear some of the crazy ideas people come up with.

nysprod
04-15-2013, 05:01 AM
just a quick word of advice. the most important part of this scene isn't the scenario but the girl. Find a girl that is brand new and gorgeous and it will make money. Shoot an already shot model for her 35th scene and it won't make much.

What do you think of this girl?

http://images1.backpage.com/imager/u/medium/83440863/slingshot6F.jpg

http://images3.backpage.com/imager/u/medium/83440868/slingshot18F.jpg

http://images2.backpage.com/imager/u/medium/83440864/slingshot9F.jpg

http://images1.backpage.com/imager/u/medium/83440859/lsingshot12F.jpg

mac.B
04-15-2013, 05:01 AM
This goes to either all you wannabe producers complaining that you can't find the porn that you want, or the people who believe that the porn they would produce is what everyone wants to see. Otherwise, those with a good idea can also take advantage of it. Put your money where your mouth is.

1. Come up with your idea. It can either be a one-off scene or a whole DVD.
2. Detail the models in it, the scene/s, costumes, locations, etc. As much detail as you possibly can. Also incl. the producer you'd prefer (Grooby producer or freelance) - or if you plan to do it yourself.
3. I'll come up with a budget and I'll publish all the details of what is needed here and on my blog.
4. You invest part of the money in the scene/s and then go and try and get other people who you know will love the scene, to invest.
5. Once the budget it met, we'll get the scene/s made.
6. All investors will get a copy of the scene/s.
7. The scene/s or DVD will be sold and profits will be shared amongst the investors based on the amount of initial investment.

There you go - put your money where your mouth is and see what you can do.

So how do we contact you?

bluesoul
04-15-2013, 05:13 AM
just a quick word of advice. the most important part of this scene isn't the scenario but the girl. Find a girl that is brand new and gorgeous and it will make money. Shoot an already shot model for her 35th scene and it won't make much.

good one, but which agencies are there for transsexuals, or do i check sms and grooby for the new models?

bluesoul
04-15-2013, 05:15 AM
So how do we contact you?

i'm going on a limb here, but you can send seanchai a pm, reply here with a short synopsis of your idea or e-mail grooby admin

flabbybody
04-15-2013, 06:47 AM
What do you think of this girl?

http://images1.backpage.com/imager/u/medium/83440863/slingshot6F.jpg

http://images3.backpage.com/imager/u/medium/83440868/slingshot18F.jpg

http://images2.backpage.com/imager/u/medium/83440864/slingshot9F.jpg

http://images1.backpage.com/imager/u/medium/83440859/lsingshot12F.jpg
That would be something but I don't think she'd ever do it

nysprod
04-15-2013, 07:21 AM
That would be something but I don't think she'd ever do it

All we can do is live in hope and die in despair...lol

GroobySteven
04-15-2013, 09:43 AM
So how do we contact you?

Well as you're going to have to make the idea public to get the funding for it, you can put it here.

timxxx
04-15-2013, 10:07 AM
This goes to either all you wannabe producers complaining that you can't find the porn that you want, or the people who believe that the porn they would produce is what everyone wants to see. Otherwise, those with a good idea can also take advantage of it. Put your money where your mouth is.

1. Come up with your idea. It can either be a one-off scene or a whole DVD.
2. Detail the models in it, the scene/s, costumes, locations, etc. As much detail as you possibly can. Also incl. the producer you'd prefer (Grooby producer or freelance) - or if you plan to do it yourself.
3. I'll come up with a budget and I'll publish all the details of what is needed here and on my blog.
4. You invest part of the money in the scene/s and then go and try and get other people who you know will love the scene, to invest.
5. Once the budget it met, we'll get the scene/s made.
6. All investors will get a copy of the scene/s.
7. The scene/s or DVD will be sold and profits will be shared amongst the investors based on the amount of initial investment.

There you go - put your money where your mouth is and see what you can do.

What kind of budget(ballpark figure)would this cost ? $2000,$5000,$8000 ?

Bribi
04-15-2013, 10:15 AM
Don't like the way you posted it.
Too aggressive.
Chill out a bit

Castor_Troy05
04-15-2013, 10:39 AM
Great idea, lets see all the guys putting themselves into scenes with their favourite models

christianxxx
04-15-2013, 01:20 PM
Ballpark?

Well here is what you need for a one off scene

1. a girl - most girls want to work, so you can get them for anywhere from 800-1500 dollars for a one day shoot cash or check (they will probably want cash from someone they don't know). But once again, my advice is to find a girl NOT in the business that is smoking hot. You might have to pay her more or maybe less - that depends on your skills at negotiating.

2. a guy - maybe its yourself so you can pay yourself, or maybe you want an amateur guy, or maybe you want to use the girl's boyfriends, or maybe you want a professional - so it will cost you anywhere from 0-600 dollars

3. a location - you can use your own pad or rent someone you know and their spot, or use a professional location in the LA porn valley basic rates are 100 bucks an hour with a 4 hour minimum

4. a video/still guy - there are many good video/still guys available these days in LA, I wouldn't suggest you shoot this yourself. Once again depending on your negotiation skills this will cost you from 400-1000 bucks for a good one. My advice is to use a guy who shoots fantastic still photos as those are harder to find than a good video guy.

5. any wardrobe - this includes costumes, lingerie, or anything else related to the scene. maybe 100 bucks or so

6. a PA - a good assistant is always helpful for making sure paperwork is filled out correctly, corralling the models, helping the video/stills guy with equipment, and fetching lunch for everyone - lets call it 75-150 for him if you use one (you could always just do this job yourself)

So your budget has a lot of variables. I would say anywhere from 1500 to 3800 for the scene would be the cost once again depending on your skills as a haggler/negotiator.

timxxx
04-15-2013, 01:43 PM
Ballpark?

Well here is what you need for a one off scene

1. a girl - most girls want to work, so you can get them for anywhere from 800-1500 dollars for a one day shoot cash or check (they will probably want cash from someone they don't know). But once again, my advice is to find a girl NOT in the business that is smoking hot. You might have to pay her more or maybe less - that depends on your skills at negotiating.

2. a guy - maybe its yourself so you can pay yourself, or maybe you want an amateur guy, or maybe you want to use the girl's boyfriends, or maybe you want a professional - so it will cost you anywhere from 0-600 dollars

3. a location - you can use your own pad or rent someone you know and their spot, or use a professional location in the LA porn valley basic rates are 100 bucks an hour with a 4 hour minimum

4. a video/still guy - there are many good video/still guys available these days in LA, I wouldn't suggest you shoot this yourself. Once again depending on your negotiation skills this will cost you from 400-1000 bucks for a good one. My advice is to use a guy who shoots fantastic still photos as those are harder to find than a good video guy.

5. any wardrobe - this includes costumes, lingerie, or anything else related to the scene. maybe 100 bucks or so

6. a PA - a good assistant is always helpful for making sure paperwork is filled out correctly, corralling the models, helping the video/stills guy with equipment, and fetching lunch for everyone - lets call it 75-150 for him if you use one (you could always just do this job yourself)

So your budget has a lot of variables. I would say anywhere from 1500 to 3800 for the scene would be the cost once again depending on your skills as a haggler/negotiator.

Thanks for the info.

So that's about 50 guys giving about $100 each,l would be down for that.

housekeeper
04-15-2013, 03:08 PM
I have a feeling many will become more content with the cost of their current membership or DVD price, but let's see....

TSPornFan
04-15-2013, 03:41 PM
This isn't our job. It's the producers, directors, and companies job to provide us with a product that we want. It's not the customers' job to pay for the product's content such as pornstar fees, sets, attire, crew, etc. This thread is just as bad as Bailey Jay asking her members to buy her attire and sets when they already paid for a full membership.

Why don't TS companies create surveys on their site to find out what their members want? I see straight porn companies do this all of the time. How about giving members the option to have their ideas put into a survey on your site to find out if people are interested in the product? This way they will find out if the product is worth investing in.

nysprod
04-15-2013, 03:48 PM
Detail the models in it

There you go - put your money where your mouth is and see what you can do.


just a quick word of advice. the most important part of this scene isn't the scenario but the girl. Find a girl that is brand new and gorgeous and it will make money. Shoot an already shot model for her 35th scene and it won't make much.

Ok, I think this is fantastic and it's definitely something I'd like to get involved with (sizable investment, etc.), under the right circumstances.

So first question to Seanchai:

Is what Christian says correct? Is the ROI likely to be better if a newbie is cast rather than Jane Marie or some other other well-known girl who's done a lot of scenes?

jennylicious
04-15-2013, 04:00 PM
This isn't our job. It's the producers, directors, and companies job to provide us with a product that we want. It's not the customers' job to pay for the product's content such as pornstar fees, sets, attire, crew, etc. This thread is just as bad as Bailey Jay asking her members to buy her attire and sets when they already paid for a full membership.

Why don't TS companies create surveys on their site to find out what their members want? I see straight porn companies do this all of the time. How about giving members the option to have their ideas put into a survey on your site to find out if people are interested in the product? This way they will find out if the product is worth investing in.

I don't think they aren't suggesting that it isn't their responsibility. This is just an offer to get involved. The idea that a production company is willing to offer one, or a number of people, the opportunity to invest in their own production while providing advice, support, and their professional experience is brilliant.

I personally think this is a really good offer for anybody interested.

LibertyHarkness
04-15-2013, 04:06 PM
This is something I am looking at for my horror movie project this summer :) xxx

Could be good for adult stuff maybe I think .. be intersting to see the feedback it gets x

Wendy Summers
04-15-2013, 04:09 PM
Is what Christian says correct? Is the ROI likely to be better if a newbie is cast rather than Jane Marie or some other other well-known girl who's done a lot of scenes?

Isn't that answer obvious?

When I first came to Hung Angels in 2011, every other thread was Eva Lin.

These days it's Jane Marie.

6 months from now it will be a new girl.

TSPornFan
04-15-2013, 04:19 PM
Isn't that answer obvious?

When I first came to Hung Angels in 2011, every other thread was Eva Lin.

These days it's Jane Marie.

6 months from now it will be a new girl.

A new girl will always emerge from the shadows. :o

However, not every new girl will be a huge hit with the fans. Booking an unknown girl can be very risky. There are alot of hot women in porn. However, not every hot babe is a superstar.

LibertyHarkness
04-15-2013, 04:23 PM
a safe bet is putting a new girl with a popular girl / double up the fan support :) etc ..

but yeah new girls are good , as are establisehd girls . i think getting the mix right is the main thing ...

nysprod
04-15-2013, 04:28 PM
Isn't that answer obvious?



Not to me...I'm not in this business and I don't really know anything about the mechanics of running it. All I know is what girls/scenes would turn me on.

Aside from that, Christian just did a scene with Eva, so why would he say a newbie will have a better ROI and then do a scene with someone established?

russ4o
04-15-2013, 04:32 PM
That is a great idea good for developing something new and fresh. I am definitely down for it ! The thread which is already started ("what it should be done more in TS porn") is already give us the feedback what customers what to see and enjoy watching. I don`t thing that find a new girl is a must ,maybe is going to be cheaper ,but it needs more advertising . The idea is important !
I would love to participate in this project!

nysprod
04-15-2013, 04:34 PM
First idea working title: "Shemale Escorts On Fire"

Various scenarios with hot TGirl escorts.

1. Guy sets up incall escort date, they get it on.

2. Guy goes back to get more, 2nd TG is there, he gets it on with both.

3. Guy and GF hires female escort (outcall) for a scene, they all get it on.

TSPornFan
04-15-2013, 04:41 PM
First idea working title: "Shemale Escorts On Fire"

Various scenarios with hot TGirl escorts.

1. Guy sets up incall escort date, they get it on.

2. Guy goes back to get more, 2nd TG is there, he gets it on with both.

3. Guy and GF hires female escort (outcall) for a scene, they all get it on.

I love escort/hooker scenes. This isn't bringing anything new to the table. Devil's Films have this covered. I think a few Grooby scenes have this theme.

nysprod
04-15-2013, 04:46 PM
I love escort/hooker scenes. This isn't bringing anything new to the table. Devil's Films have this covered. I think a few Grooby scenes have this theme.

I'm not trying to come up with a scenario that's never been done before...actually, I don't think it's even possible...I mean, what hasn't been done already?

I googled the title and didn't come up with anything...has the title been used previously?

I was also thinking about doing something along the lines of "Shemale Strippers on Fire" but I think that the costs involved with locations (a club and shooting exterior scenes) would be too prohibitive.

What do the pros have to say about that?

TSPornFan
04-15-2013, 04:49 PM
I'm not trying to come up with a scenario that's never been done before...actually, I don't think it's even possible...I mean, what hasn't been done already?

I googled the title and didn't come up with anything...has the title been used previously?

There are a lot of things that are not done in TS porn.

supersharpshooter
04-15-2013, 06:35 PM
First idea working title: "Shemale Escorts On Fire"

Various scenarios with hot TGirl escorts.

1. Guy sets up incall escort date, they get it on.

2. Guy goes back to get more, 2nd TG is there, he gets it on with both.

3. Guy and GF hires female escort (outcall) for a scene, they all get it on.

I don't think many of the girls would be prepared to be set on fire:dancing:

Wendy Summers
04-15-2013, 06:46 PM
I don't think many of the girls would be prepared to be set on fire:dancing:

I dunno - depends on when their rent is due...

christianxxx
04-15-2013, 06:51 PM
there is nothing funnier to me than when Franklin purports to speak for the silent majority of members out there when he is just constantly speaking only for himself. "I am giving them a voice"! The brass balls on this dude.

TSPornFan
04-15-2013, 06:57 PM
there is nothing funnier to me than when Franklin purports to speak for the silent majority of members out there when he is just constantly speaking only for himself. "I am giving them a voice"! The brass balls on this dude.

At least I don't bitch on a public forum about pornstars refusing to fuck with me on camera.

christianxxx
04-15-2013, 07:24 PM
is that a comeback? seriously? lol

bluesoul
04-15-2013, 07:46 PM
This isn't our job. It's the producers, directors, and companies job to provide us with a product that we want. It's not the customers' job to pay for the product's content such as pornstar fees, sets, attire, crew, etc.

i don't think the challenge is meant to make it your job but a challenge for you to fix any problems you see in the current porn. in fact, if you make a successful product, you might even have to worry about piracy :)

nysprod
04-15-2013, 07:56 PM
As entertaing as christian vs. franklyn is (or isn't, depending on your perspective) can we please keep this thread on topic?

I asked a specific question of Christian i'd like an answer to...thanks.

Franklyn, no one is interested in your half assed opinions, so stfu.

luvtserotika
04-15-2013, 07:58 PM
Sure Big Time Money Maker - Jennifer Paris reveled on camera in a scene - sure to make a lot of people finally happy and worth every penny - Sign Her Up!!

GroobySteven
04-15-2013, 08:02 PM
This isn't our job. It's the producers, directors, and companies job to provide us with a product that we want. It's not the customers' job to pay for the product's content such as pornstar fees, sets, attire, crew, etc. This thread is just as bad as Bailey Jay asking her members to buy her attire and sets when they already paid for a full membership.

Why don't TS companies create surveys on their site to find out what their members want? I see straight porn companies do this all of the time. How about giving members the option to have their ideas put into a survey on your site to find out if people are interested in the product? This way they will find out if the product is worth investing in.


Oh you're a fucking idiot - go back and read what I stated - you crowd source the funding (therefore either bringing the cost down a lot - and getting a share of a the profits. You're the one with the MASSIVE FUCKING MOUTH claiming to know everything about porn and the industry, so come up with the scene or DVD which you think would make money, help fund it and prove yourself right when it goes into profit. Win for everyone (according to you).

To answer your question about surveys. We've done them many times and that's why we produce the type of porn we do on each site - AND WHY THE SITES ARE PROFITABLE. You're one of the few in the minority claiming it's not what people want.

Secondly, it's nothing like Bailey asking for the props to be bought, you the investor would be making your money back (should it work!).

You're a complete hypocrite. Here's the deal - either get with this - or shut the fuck up on making a) constant whines and complaints, and b) statements and assertions of how right you are about the industry.

Put up - or shut up.

timxxx
04-15-2013, 08:05 PM
But once again, my advice is to find a girl NOT in the business that is smoking hot.

I mostly agree with this but there is compromise position.Like persuade a popular girl to do something new or different on film,for example persuade Bailey Jay to have sex with some guy other than her boyfriend,or get a girl who's hot(Maiden Heaven or Victoria Porche,my examples)but has never done an hardcore scene to do one. :2cent

TSPornFan
04-15-2013, 08:07 PM
Oh you're a fucking idiot - go back and read what I stated - you crowd source the funding (therefore either bringing the cost down a lot - and getting a share of a the profits. You're the one with the MASSIVE FUCKING MOUTH claiming to know everything about porn and the industry, so come up with the scene or DVD which you think would make money, help fund it and prove yourself right when it goes into profit. Win for everyone (according to you).

To answer your question about surveys. We've done them many times and that's why we produce the type of porn we do on each site - AND WHY THE SITES ARE PROFITABLE. You're one of the few in the minority claiming it's not what people want.

Secondly, it's nothing like Bailey asking for the props to be bought, you the investor would be making your money back (should it work!).

You're a complete hypocrite. Here's the deal - either get with this - or shut the fuck up on making a) constant whines and complaints, and b) statements and assertions of how right you are about the industry.

Put up - or shut up.

I've been a member on your sites for years and I have never seen a survey on the site. I have not received any emails about surveys.

Bailey Jay wasn't offering any profits when she was asking site members to pay for set material.

GroobySteven
04-15-2013, 08:08 PM
Don't like the way you posted it.
Too aggressive.
Chill out a bit

Whom? I?
Totally chilled out. Like I'd give a fuck on your opinion of how I posted it?

GroobySteven
04-15-2013, 08:09 PM
What kind of budget(ballpark figure)would this cost ? $2000,$5000,$8000 ?

Would depend on the model/s, the scene, costumes etc. One scene generally less that $1500.

GroobySteven
04-15-2013, 08:10 PM
Is what Christian says correct? Is the ROI likely to be better if a newbie is cast rather than Jane Marie or some other other well-known girl who's done a lot of scenes?

No it's not necessarily better. It very much depends on the model and the scene and what you're doing with her. Eg: the right foot fetish scene might appeal with just the right model - and not necessarily a new one.
I'd happily add my advice.

nysprod
04-15-2013, 08:11 PM
I agree, franklyn is a fucking moron, can we not all just ignore his bullshit?

Working title #2:

Amateur Shemales Go Pro

Based on the popularity of the "amateur ts...." thread

Cute but not fully transitioned girls get their cherries broke while they learn the ropes of doing ts porn...

GroobySteven
04-15-2013, 08:13 PM
I've been a member on your sites for years and I have never seen a survey on the site. I have not received any emails about surveys.

Bailey Jay wasn't offering any profits when she was asking site members to pay for set material.

My point exactly on Bailey Jay.

Maybe you were too busy looking for things to complain about than the spot the surveys or participate in the feedback. Either way - my point stands - here is your chance to get something made which YOU think will sell.

GroobySteven
04-15-2013, 08:13 PM
Sure Big Time Money Maker - Jennifer Paris reveled on camera in a scene - sure to make a lot of people finally happy and worth every penny - Sign Her Up!!

It would be but the cost in getting JP to perform or be naked on camera might outweigh the return?

GroobySteven
04-15-2013, 08:14 PM
PS - if something sounds good - I'd be prepared to invest in it myself.

jennylicious
04-15-2013, 08:17 PM
PS - if something sounds good - I'd be prepared to invest in it myself.

Which leads to me my only question. Is this going to be a one time offer? If someone came to you with a good idea down the line willing to put the investment up for the scene and it worked well with other things you were doing, would you consider doing it?

timxxx
04-15-2013, 08:19 PM
Secondly, it's nothing like Bailey asking for the props to be bought, you the investor would be making your money back (should it work!).



In theory yes.
But in reality most people who do this Crowdfunding/Kickstarter are just fans who will be happy that 'the thing' gets made & they get their DVD.

TSPornFan
04-15-2013, 08:19 PM
I mostly agree with this but there is compromise position.Like persuade a popular girl to do something new or different on film,for example persuade Bailey Jay to have sex with some guy other than her boyfriend,or get a girl who's hot(Maiden Heaven or Victoria Porche,my examples)but has never done an hardcore scene to do one. :2cent

I've heard that Bailey Jay is now married to that guy. It's very unlikely. If you would persuade her to do this then the cost is going to sky rocket. She would ask for more than the standard pay to make such a scene.

nysprod
04-15-2013, 08:25 PM
I also like the idea "Shemale Strippers Go Wild"

I love the idea of tgirls getting all the way nude on stage as the customers go wild, with sex scenes in lap dance rooms and even on stage.

The problem with this idea is the logistics of filming it, but it's hot, imo.

GroobySteven
04-15-2013, 08:25 PM
Which leads to me my only question. Is this going to be a one time offer? If someone came to you with a good idea down the line willing to put the investment up for the scene and it worked well with other things you were doing, would you consider doing it?

I'd be open to any offers - for this project let's see what comes up and how it goes.

GroobySteven
04-15-2013, 08:27 PM
In theory yes.
But in reality most people who do this Crowdfunding/Kickstarter are just fans who will be happy that 'the thing' gets made & they get their DVD.

Absolutely - but usually there is a reward either you get the product first, or invited to the premier, etc. However, as this is a commercial enterprise then if it makes money, then it should be shared.

I'm crowdfunding on the new Elite game.

TSPornFan
04-15-2013, 08:30 PM
My point exactly on Bailey Jay.

Maybe you were too busy looking for things to complain about than the spot the surveys or participate in the feedback. Either way - my point stands - here is your chance to get something made which YOU think will sell.

Your sites never the type of surveys that I was referring to. Are you referring to the polls on the sites that anyone can re-answer when they resubscribe? Those polls are not creditable because anyone who resigns to the site can vote again. A real survey has many questions to answer.

I don't remember any of your polls asking members what type of plots members want to see in hardcore scenes.

Straight sites will provide members to with a link that would redirect them to a real survey with a few questions. Members could not take the survey twice.

I am assuming that a contract would be written and faxed to the "fan" investors. Does it have to be a DVD? Could it be an actual site or sites? I am trying to estimate the cost of my idea(not posted yet). What does the average set cost?

I know this sounds very cheap. Has anyone thought about the idea of getting free condoms at the health department? It would cut down on condom cost. LOL

timxxx
04-15-2013, 08:30 PM
I've heard that Bailey Jay is now married to that guy. It's very unlikely. If you would persuade her to do this then the cost is going to sky rocket. She would ask for more than the standard pay to make such a scene.

I make you right.But a DVD like 'Bailey Jay's Bad Day' would be insane.

btw,who's concept was 'Morgan Bailey Bad Day' ? We need to get that guy.

nysprod
04-15-2013, 08:32 PM
Working title #3:

"Shemale Bachelor Party"

The idea here is for obstensively straight guys to go nuts over shemales at a bachelor party.

GroobySteven
04-15-2013, 08:37 PM
I make you right.But a DVD like 'Bailey Jay's Bad Day' would be insane.

btw,who's concept was 'Morgan Bailey Bad Day' ? We need to get that guy.


Buddy Wood. You should also see Hazel Does Hollywood. He's a great editor also. He's got a few more theme driven ones in the works.

nysprod
04-15-2013, 08:37 PM
Working title #4:

"Shemales on Spring Break"

Nothing hotter than tgirls in 'kinis on the beach...bulges out!

nysprod
04-15-2013, 08:42 PM
Working title #5:

"Shemale Sorority"

Hot shemale sorority girls have their pick of the hottest jocks...nerds too!

timxxx
04-15-2013, 08:46 PM
Buddy Wood. You should also see Hazel Does Hollywood. He's a great editor also. He's got a few more theme driven ones in the works.

Hazel Does Hollywood & Morgan Bailey Bad Day have pride of place in my collection. :D

GroobySteven
04-15-2013, 08:47 PM
Your sites never the type of surveys that I was referring to. Are you referring to the polls on the sites that anyone can re-answer when they resubscribe? Those polls are not creditable because anyone who resigns to the site can vote again. A real survey has many questions to answer.

I don't remember any of your polls asking members what type of plots members want to see in hardcore scenes.

Straight sites will provide members to with a link that would redirect them to a real survey with a few questions. Members could not take the survey twice.

I am assuming that a contract would be written and faxed to the "fan" investors. Does it have to be a DVD? Could it be an actual site or sites? I am trying to estimate the cost of my idea(not posted yet). What does the average set cost?

I know this sounds very cheap. Has anyone thought about the idea of getting free condoms at the health department? It would cut down on condom cost. LOL

Yep - we've had surveys before - you missed them. Most members signup with the same username so therefore, the polls are somewhat correct and we can also get feedback from the comments and the feedback areas as well as regular emails from customers. We get feedback from many places on what type of scenes to create.

Already posted about scene costs.

nysprod
04-15-2013, 08:59 PM
Working title #6:

"Shemales Cruised and Used"

Hot tgirls in everyday settings, I.E. the mall, supermarket, regular bar are picked up by guys smart enough to spot them!

GroobySteven
04-15-2013, 09:03 PM
are picked up by guys smart enough to spot them!

Not feeling the name but like that as a concept.

Dino Velvet
04-15-2013, 09:08 PM
Gore Whores And Their Shemale Shanks

nysprod
04-15-2013, 09:12 PM
Not feeling the name but like that as a concept.

Fine...let's call it "Shemales in Real Life" after the very popular thread.

Willie Escalade
04-15-2013, 11:04 PM
Giovanni Hotel originally posted the majority of this; i did edit some stuff out and highlighted/added more. I thought it would make a fine feature (not some gonzo or wall-to-wall feature:


I think it's time for a little more plot and storyline in TS porn.
It's every admirer's fantasy IMO to be seduced by a TS and turned out by a woman he didn't realize was transgender.

I like seeing the chase, the brush offs by the girl because she's afraid he won't accept her, the later realization by the guy that she has 'extra' parts, the am-I-gay-if-touch-your-cock bullshit(btw it would be cool to hear a TS deliver a line in a porn vid explaining why a guy's attraction to her doesn't make him technically homo), and then the sex scenes.

I'd also like to see a few minutes more of girl/boy staged dating scenarios before the sex happens.
[Edit]
It would be cool to see sometimes a TS not just being the one pursued, but also the one who's going after the guy.

More backstory in TS porn doesn't require 50-100 scripts, just more scene creativity.

(I have this scene in my head where a TS middle school [or high school] teacher has a student's father meet her after hours at the school to discuss his son's unruly behavior and failing grades. In order for Johnny to get passed to the 6th grade, his TS teacher makes dad an offer he can't refuse [or the father finds the teacher attractive and wants to become "more serious" in the relationship, leading to the scenario stated at the beginning of this reply, i.e. a real date and such]).

I like seeing TS as sex goddesses/sex objects, but it's a real turn on to see them as typical women too with everyday 24/7 lives who get hooked up with random guys.

Yes...it sounds like one of those Forbidden Lovers movies. I actually like those because they're realistic. Considering what Buddy did with Hazel and Morgan, I can see him getting this hooked up.

nysprod
04-15-2013, 11:22 PM
Working title #7:

"Shemale Nuru Massage"

If you've never had one of these, you really should...a scene with 1 or more tgirls giving one to a lucky customer would be awesome...customers will be male and gg.

On the flip side, seeing the tgirl as the client would be very hot indeed...

nysprod
04-15-2013, 11:34 PM
Working title #8:

"Shemale Bikini Car Wash"

Tgirls looking to make some extra $$'s get into some soapy fun running a bikini car wash on a hot summer day.

nysprod
04-16-2013, 03:22 AM
Working title #9:

"Shemales do South Beach"

Miami will put everyone in a good, sexy mood, so the chemistry will work...this will contain elements of the "real life" genre, as exteriors of the girls at restaurants, clubs and on Ocean Drive will be shot with ipads...for the sex scenes, a swanky hotel on Collins.

Might want to think about shooting this over the summer when the Brazilians come to town...

jennylicious
04-16-2013, 03:33 AM
Working title #9:

"Shemales do South Beach"

Miami will put everyone in a good, sexy mood, so the chemistry will work...this will contain elements of the "real life" genre, as exteriors of the girls at restaurants, clubs and on Ocean Drive will be shot with ipads...for the sex scenes, a swanky hotel on Collins.

Might want to think about shooting this over the summer when the Brazilians come to town...

You're like a one man porn title machine... :grin:

nysprod
04-16-2013, 04:08 AM
You're like a one man porn title machine... :grin:

Lol...thanks (I think).

The original premise of this thread, if I understood it correctly, was along the lines "if you think you can produce better than us, put up or shut up," as a reaction to Franklyn's bullshit. I'm making no assumptions that I'm better and I'm not critical of what's produced. I have no better concepts of what people will like.

That being said, it would be fun and interesting to get involved on some level, and I do have the time, cash and inclination to do so. Could be a disaster, could work out well, but that generally holds true in whatever you do.

jennylicious
04-16-2013, 04:10 AM
Lol...thanks (I think).

The original premise of this thread, if I understood it correctly, was along the lines "if you think you can produce better than us, put up or shut up," as a reaction to Franklyn's bullshit. I'm making no assumptions that I'm better and I'm not critical of what's produced. I have no better concepts of what people will like.

That being said, it would be fun and interesting to get involved on some level, and I do have the time, cash and inclination to do so. Could be a disaster, could work out well, but that generally holds true in whatever you do.

Oh yeah, I think it's totally cool. If you're interested, you should definitely get involved. I think it's a great idea.

natina
04-16-2013, 06:01 AM
you can now advertise to raise money

OBAMA jobs bill caused a SEC law change now called crowd funding.

many great company and idea have gotten financed as a result

christianxxx
04-16-2013, 07:24 AM
if i had my way I would take this site www.passion-hd.com and turn it into TSpassion-Hd.com

Willie Escalade
04-16-2013, 09:11 AM
Here's a scene suggestion that's been bumping around my head for some time. To shoot it might be a bit expensive though.

A classy dressed young lady (in a business suit or such) has just finished shopping on Rodeo Drive. Her limo is there to pick her up to take her home or to her office. As she gives her shopping bags to the chauffeur, he asks "How was your shopping?" She replies "Excellent"...or whatever answer; it's not too important. She enters the limo; the chauffeur closes the door. As he drives off, she gets a call from a fella (not seen, but will be later on). He states he wants to see her again. She is instantly horny. As she begins to jill off, "flashbacks" from her encounter with the guy are shown. Basically it would be two scenes in one: a boy/girl and a solo J/O scene. Not only does she cum in the flashback, she cums in the limo as well...just as it pulls up to her destination. She quickly gathers herself; the chauffeur helps her out of the car. As she walks to the door she stops, turns around, and gives the viewer a knowing look (and maybe a wink).

I keep picturing Sofia Ferreira or Valerie Daniels in this scene. They'd be perfect because there's limited footage of them out there. As stated before it might be expensive because you'd have to rent a limo, have the correct costumes, AND shoot a separate hardcore scene for use in the flashbacks.

This could even be one scene in a full feature. Buddy Wood, did you read this? :D

jennylicious
04-16-2013, 12:09 PM
if i had my way

It seems you're constantly "having you way"... :D

nysprod
04-16-2013, 02:19 PM
Working title #6:

"Shemales Cruised and Used"

Hot tgirls in everyday settings, I.E. the mall, supermarket, regular bar are picked up by guys smart enough to spot them!


Not feeling the name but like that as a concept.


Fine...let's call it "Shemales in Real Life" after the very popular thread.

Or call it "Real Life Shemales"

The mall scene could take place in a shoe store...not to make a foot fetish thing (which is limiting) out of it, but like 99% of guys appreciate the sight of a good looking woman in sexy shoes...our heroine will be seen trying on a pair or 2 as the hero watches appreciatively...camera will cut back and forth a few times as they catch each others eye...later on she'll be wearing the shoes as they get it on.

Alternative mall scene could be 2 hot girls shopping for those really tight, low cut stretch jeans...they pick out a few pair and head to the fitting room...ever watch a hot girl squeezing her tush into a pair of those? awesome! The girls will check each other out, like what they see, and the action will take place right there in the fitting room...

flabbybody
04-16-2013, 03:10 PM
love the shoe store thing. she could be very bitchy and demanding and make the guy bring out lots of pairs of fuck me pumps for her to try on. she'd be waring a tiny mini skirt and eventually her cock would accidentally fall out as she's sitting admiring her feet. she'd start to rub her foot on his pants crotch.

Dino Velvet
04-16-2013, 04:52 PM
love the shoe store thing. she could be very bitchy and demanding and make the guy bring out lots of pairs of fuck me pumps for her to try on. she'd be waring a tiny mini skirt and eventually her cock would accidentally fall out as she's sitting admiring her feet. she'd start to rub her foot on his pants crotch.

Make the guy like Al Bundy.

Best of Bundy - Shoe Store Customers - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRCHBi0DRFg)

http://images.dvdsea.com/upload/uploadfiles/bundy1.jpg

nysprod
04-16-2013, 05:11 PM
love the shoe store thing. she could be very bitchy and demanding and make the guy bring out lots of pairs of fuck me pumps for her to try on. she'd be waring a tiny mini skirt and eventually her cock would accidentally fall out as she's sitting admiring her feet. she'd start to rub her foot on his pants crotch.

That's a hot scenario, but I'm thinking of this in terms of realistic filming...the idea of "Real Life Shemales" is using ipads in real life situations like the mall, and you can't do an actual sex scene there, obviously...yes, you could build a set, but you have to think of the budget if you want it to look like a real shoe store...and what about all the other customers?

Likewise with 2 TGirls in the fitting room...yes, they're really in a mall, but once the scene cuts the "fitting room" is a studio...think about what's inside a typical fitting room...not much...so it's a simple, inexpensive set and you don't need to explain the absence of other shoppers.

BTW, not sure if you have this in other cities, but you really have to see how hot girls look in these stretch jeans, especially the low cut ones...watching them wriggle in and out of them is one of life's great visuals...lol

nysprod
04-16-2013, 09:36 PM
Is anything happening with this?

GroobySteven
04-16-2013, 09:39 PM
Is anything happening with this?

Some people need to come up with more exact scenes. What the scene is - or is it a full DVD. Put down the wishlist for models - who is shooting (or who do you want to shoot) it, locations etc.

Quiet Reflections
04-16-2013, 10:36 PM
Is anything happening with this?
I doubt anybody on this forum will pony up the dough for a scene to be made.

flabbybody
04-16-2013, 11:10 PM
Make the guy like Al Bundy.

Best of Bundy - Shoe Store Customers - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRCHBi0DRFg)

http://images.dvdsea.com/upload/uploadfiles/bundy1.jpg

there's only one model that meets my criteria. Stunning model face, perfectly pedicured feet, and big cock.... the one and only Liz Mac. She gets increasingly annoyed with the hapless salesman who bumbles trying to help her fasten her shoes and tie her boots. She makes him kiss her feet and toes and ultimately makes him blow her in front of shocked customers (we'd need a few extras). When she's done she lets him JO on her shoes.
the set would have to look like a real woman's shoe store, more or less

GroobySteven
04-16-2013, 11:12 PM
I doubt anybody on this forum will pony up the dough for a scene to be made.


I think it's doable.

Say a scene is costed at $2000 - that's only 20 people at $100 a piece. Go onto the social networks etc and see what it goes for.

Dino Velvet
04-16-2013, 11:22 PM
What would it take to make Danni Daniels play on bottom? I'm sure it's been asked.

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq157/jayjablun/SgtShultz.png
"I know nothing about the world of pornography."

jennylicious
04-16-2013, 11:25 PM
I think it's doable.

Say a scene is costed at $2000 - that's only 20 people at $100 a piece. Go onto the social networks etc and see what it goes for.

It's a good opportunity, if anything just so someone can do something artistic and different with their life. People should strive to interact with the world, rather than just watch it.

I can't really do it now, but that's why I asked the question about the future. Hopefully enough people will want to be involved this time and it proves worthwhile to do again.

bluesoul
04-16-2013, 11:35 PM
I think it's doable.

Say a scene is costed at $2000 - that's only 20 people at $100 a piece. Go onto the social networks etc and see what it goes for.

i'd honestly be shocked if 20 people from hung angels could shell out $100 each. i think what's more feasible is that someone comes up with an idea that you (possibly alone or with one of girls here) end up producing.

GroobySteven
04-17-2013, 12:21 AM
i'd honestly be shocked if 20 people from hung angels could shell out $100 each. i think what's more feasible is that someone comes up with an idea that you (possibly alone or with one of girls here) end up producing.

Franklin seems to have a million ideas on why tgirl porn isn't working - surely he's got, ONE, which would work and be profitable. Surely you're not saying he's wrong?

I'll put up some samples tomorrow of ideas, budgets and such.

Willie Escalade
04-17-2013, 12:31 AM
Franklin seems to have a million ideas on why tgirl porn isn't working - surely he's got, ONE, which would work and be profitable. Surely you're not saying he's wrong?
Exactly what I was thinking...just like the guy asking fellas in that thread if they're man enough to post their picture without posting his own (and he never did)...

nysprod
04-17-2013, 12:56 AM
I think it's doable.

Say a scene is costed at $2000 - that's only 20 people at $100 a piece. Go onto the social networks etc and see what it goes for.

If a scene or even a full dvd idea of mine gets greenlighted, I.ll fund it myself if certain conditions are met.

EvaCassini
04-17-2013, 12:59 AM
Im taking down ideas ;)

EvaCassini
04-17-2013, 01:00 AM
I am very open to requests, is what i mean :)

bluesoul
04-17-2013, 01:29 AM
Franklin seems to have a million ideas on why tgirl porn isn't working - surely he's got, ONE, which would work and be profitable. Surely you're not saying he's wrong?

I'll put up some samples tomorrow of ideas, budgets and such.

well, i actually hope franklin shares one of his ideas, though i highly doubt it. the thing is, i don't think he's the only one.

i can see maybe 1 or 2 people coming up with interesting enough scenarios worth shooting because they would actually sell beyond the novelty that we (non porn people) actually made it. the number i see actually investing in said project are either less or none (hence why i said you'd probably end up doing it anyway).

but am sure as someone that works in that business you know part of the biggest headache is just getting people to even show up and actually do the work- because technically, we could just film a scenario based around this forum where each user (obviously portrayed by a male adult actor) is "visited" by a fantasy hung angel and base the script on a particular "favorite" threads etc and each of the "investors" could either be a character or get to pick the girl of their choice.

it's getting people to commit to such a project let alone handle a producer's job to handle casting, location and scheduling that i see being next to impossible-

unless franklin of course surprises everyone :geek:

nysprod
04-17-2013, 04:00 AM
but am sure as someone that works in that business you know part of the biggest headache is just getting people to even show up and actually do the work- because technically, we could just film a scenario based around this forum where each user (obviously portrayed by a male adult actor) is "visited" by a fantasy hung angel and base the script on a particular "favorite" threads etc and each of the "investors" could either be a character or get to pick the girl of their choice.

it's getting people to commit to such a project let alone handle a producer's job to handle casting, location and scheduling that i see being next to impossible-

unless franklin of course surprises everyone :geek:

I'm not in the business but my guess is that you're exactly on point...there's a lot more that goes into this than simply coming up with ideas and putting up the money.

Looking at things from the producer's standpoint I can understand why doing the "pool boy" scenes solves several problems:

1. A certain level of sales/rentals/VOD is probably a given, which means there's likely to be an acceptable ROI.

2. I would imagine Smith is a reliable person to work with in that he shows up and can perform. Nelly, I'm assuming, is similar in that regard. They seem comfortable together, there's some chemistry, and it's likely the filming can come off without too many complications.

3. No expensive sets...you're basically filming in a location that's attractive and ready to go once you have the equipment set up. For all I know, it's shot at Buddy Wood's house and the equipment is always set up...lol.

Ok, now I'm an amateur with a porn producer fantasy. I'm not coming at this like Franklyn (Grooby sucks, I can do better). I need the pro's expertise on 2 fronts:

1. Are my ideas good?

2. Can I reasonably expect there to be an acceptable return on my investment. What's acceptable? That's TBD.

nysprod
04-17-2013, 05:03 AM
I don't know this guy's name...he shot a scene with Mia Isabella for Evil Angel...he's the male talent I want...definitely.

nysprod
04-17-2013, 05:31 AM
Some people need to come up with more exact scenes. What the scene is - or is it a full DVD. Put down the wishlist for models - who is shooting (or who do you want to shoot) it, locations etc.

Working title:

"Shemale Nuru Massage Parlor"

Going for a little twist here...the massage parlor will be a place for hard-working shemales to come and get a nuru massage (and hot sex).

Gonna shoot for the moon with models, because I want Jane Marie and Domino...male talent will be the guy in the previous post.

Simple idea, simple premise, great sex (I hope). 3 Scenes

Scene 1. Jane comes in for her nuru massage. She loves the massage and sex with the guy and tells her friend Domino all about it, which leads to

Scene 2. Domino comes in for her nuru massage. She loves the whole experience too and after talking about it with Jane they both decide to go which leads to

Scene 3. Jane, Domino and this same guy for a wild 3 way.

Simple, epic, let's do it.

I don't know anything about who might shoot it...location will be in studio...it's simple to set up a nuru massage area, so nothing complicated.

Willie Escalade
04-17-2013, 05:46 AM
I don't know this guy's name...he shot a scene with Mia Isabella for Evil Angel...he's the male talent I want...definitely.
That's Ty Roderick, her ex-boyfriend. He does primarily gay scenes now...

betts
04-17-2013, 07:35 AM
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/attachment.php?attachmentid=574261&stc=1&d=1366170376




http://images.andyouknowthis.net/tumblr_inline_mk5f7agVVQ1qz4rgp.gif

GroobySteven
04-17-2013, 10:57 AM
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/attachment.php?attachmentid=574261&stc=1&d=1366170376




http://images.andyouknowthis.net/tumblr_inline_mk5f7agVVQ1qz4rgp.gif


Stealing that Gervais gif ... had me laughing out loud.

nysprod
04-17-2013, 11:41 AM
That's Ty Roderick, her ex-boyfriend. He does primarily gay scenes now...


Stealing that Gervais gif ... had me laughing out loud.

Not sure I'm exactly understanding your points...you're making fun of him because he's gay or has done gay scenes...you're bustin' on me because I want him for a scene...I couldn't imagine you guys are being homophobic or anything like that...so...what am I missing here?

Willie Escalade
04-17-2013, 11:45 AM
I'm just saying since he and Mia broke up, I haven't seen him in any TS scenes. I'm in no position to make fun of ANYONE. He's making his money...

GroobySteven
04-17-2013, 11:55 AM
Not sure I'm exactly understanding your points...you're making fun of him because he's gay or has done gay scenes...you're bustin' on me because I want him for a scene...I couldn't imagine you guys are being homophobic or anything like that...so...what am I missing here?

I didn't even know who he was. Not homophobic but that that image of the dude toying his ass does look funny - and then having Gervais laughing at it, appealed to my humour.

nysprod
04-17-2013, 11:56 AM
I'm just saying since he and Mia broke up, I haven't seen him in any TS scenes. I'm in no position to make fun of ANYONE. He's making his money...

Uh huh...

timxxx
04-17-2013, 11:59 AM
Not sure I'm exactly understanding your points...you're making fun of him because he's gay or has done gay scenes...you're bustin' on me because I want him for a scene...I couldn't imagine you guys are being homophobic or anything like that...so...what am I missing here?
Don't think he was being in anyway homophobic,besides alot of the guys who do shemale porn also do gay porn.

nysprod
04-17-2013, 12:01 PM
I didn't even know who he was. Not homophobic but that that image of the dude toying his ass does look funny - and then having Gervais laughing at it, appealed to my humour.

Are all of us allowed to post pics/make comments of performers we think are funny? I've seen quite a few things that have tickled my funny bone too...

Willie Escalade
04-17-2013, 12:03 PM
Not making fun of him...it was the first image that came up on Google Image search for me...

effigyc
04-17-2013, 01:11 PM
I'll bite. How about we have a guy at hotel for some kind of business deal. He doesn't want to take it, but the guy he's negotiating with has two assistants (our girls, duh) that he notices our business man looking at. So that night when the business man gets back to his hotel room he finds one of them on the bed, the other comes out of the bathroom, both dressed really sexy (latex?). They make out with each other, give him a little strip tease, use some toys on each other, etc. Then they both blow him and we start a threesome. Personally, I don't really want to see the guy get topped, I'd rather the girls stay submissive to him. I don't really care which girls it is either.

ashymon
04-17-2013, 02:23 PM
I doubt anybody on this forum will pony up the dough for a scene to be made.

Don't be too sure Dino. Back in the late 90's I had several ideas for a start up company, two involved porn. One was in distribution and the other was in production. However I chose another passion which was in the Aerospace and Defense world. The company has been extremely successful. Now a bigger company is about to buy my company and I am back to thinking about what to do next. Guess where my thoughts keep leading me to?

Wendy Summers
04-17-2013, 02:37 PM
Don't be too sure Dino. Back in the late 90's I had several ideas for a start up company, two involved porn. One was in distribution and the other was in production. However I chose another passion which was in the Aerospace and Defense world. The company has been extremely successful. Now a bigger company is about to buy my company and I am back to thinking about what to do next. Guess where my thoughts keep leading me to?

Given you're chatting with Dino I'll guess either Scat porn or Snuff Porn :dancing::dancing::dancing:

ashymon
04-17-2013, 02:51 PM
Given you're chatting with Dino I'll guess either Scat porn or Snuff Porn :dancing::dancing::dancing:

Nah, Dino just cracks me up. Besides, what would this forum be without Dino? He is an icon.

Silcc69
04-17-2013, 04:45 PM
This thread screams DARYL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

betts
04-17-2013, 06:32 PM
Stealing that Gervais gif ... had me laughing out loud.


You're welcome.
I've come to expect some stuff i don't really want to see on this site, but that one took me by surprise.



Not homophobic but that that image of the dude toying his ass does look funny


Right.

f-finger
04-17-2013, 06:46 PM
This thread screams DARYL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

not really, that dude would bang some "attractivitely challagned" crossdresser

BluegrassCat
04-17-2013, 06:53 PM
Giovanni Hotel originally posted the majority of this; i did edit some stuff out and highlighted/added more. I thought it would make a fine feature (not some gonzo or wall-to-wall feature:


I think it's time for a little more plot and storyline in TS porn.
It's every admirer's fantasy IMO to be seduced by a TS and turned out by a woman he didn't realize was transgender.

I like seeing the chase, the brush offs by the girl because she's afraid he won't accept her, the later realization by the guy that she has 'extra' parts, the am-I-gay-if-touch-your-cock bullshit(btw it would be cool to hear a TS deliver a line in a porn vid explaining why a guy's attraction to her doesn't make him technically homo), and then the sex scenes.

I'd also like to see a few minutes more of girl/boy staged dating scenarios before the sex happens.
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It would be cool to see sometimes a TS not just being the one pursued, but also the one who's going after the guy.

More backstory in TS porn doesn't require 50-100 scripts, just more scene creativity.

(I have this scene in my head where a TS middle school [or high school] teacher has a student's father meet her after hours at the school to discuss his son's unruly behavior and failing grades. In order for Johnny to get passed to the 6th grade, his TS teacher makes dad an offer he can't refuse [or the father finds the teacher attractive and wants to become "more serious" in the relationship, leading to the scenario stated at the beginning of this reply, i.e. a real date and such]).

I like seeing TS as sex goddesses/sex objects, but it's a real turn on to see them as typical women too with everyday 24/7 lives who get hooked up with random guys.

Yes...it sounds like one of those Forbidden Lovers movies. I actually like those because they're realistic. Considering what Buddy did with Hazel and Morgan, I can see him getting this hooked up.

I was going to write essentially the same thing. Exactly what's missing for me and what I would pay for.

nysprod
04-17-2013, 07:10 PM
I was going to write essentially the same thing. Exactly what's missing for me and what I would pay for.

The entire scenario is absurd...there's nothing "typical" about a TS teacher making an offer to pass some guy's kid in school if he gets it on with her...a relationship under those circumstances is allways inappropriate.

This is just more TS objectification, so don't make it out to be more than it is.

Silcc69
04-17-2013, 07:42 PM
not really, that dude would bang some "attractivitely challagned" crossdresser

Actually I have seen Daryl bang sum real gems and I have also seen him bang sum clunkers too.

BluegrassCat
04-17-2013, 07:46 PM
The entire scenario is absurd...there's nothing "typical" about a TS teacher making an offer to pass some guy's kid in school if he gets it on with her...a relationship under those circumstances is allways inappropriate.

This is just more TS objectification, so don't make it out to be more than it is.

You're right. Since this is a documentary and not a porn she should teach, go home and grade papers, have dinner and go to bed. The end.
:roll:

nysprod
04-17-2013, 07:57 PM
You're welcome.
I've come to expect some stuff i don't really want to see on this site, but that one took me by surprise.





Right.

I haven't seen you come up with any ideas so perhaps you should STFU before making fun of mine.

betts
04-17-2013, 08:43 PM
perhaps you should STFU before making fun of mine.


http://images.andyouknowthis.net/hemadl.jpg


For starters, I wasn't even commenting on your choice of talent or ideas.

The "stuff i don't really want to see on this site" was the image of some dude splayed out, which you had nothing to do with. Context. Get some.

You can fantasize all you want about woman and shoes, Naruto (! see what i did there? !) massages and stories involving your son/neighbor having transsexual girlfriends that you're okay with it. I'm not bothered.

You take this site and its contents way too seriously, it's pr0n bruh.

pr0n.

Wendy Summers
04-17-2013, 08:59 PM
You take this site and its contents way too seriously, it's pr0n bruh.

I dunno, I've had folks accuse me of not being serious enough with my porn.

EvaCassini
04-17-2013, 09:06 PM
im still waiting for someone to come up with ideas...haven't seen but like a couple. guys ... you have girls that want to work if there is pay...if you got it ( money, time, and resources ) then lets start making porn lol

GroobySteven
04-17-2013, 09:28 PM
Ok I guess I need to help you guys out a bit - you need to come up with more than a few titles names and lose ideas. Here's a sample of how you should present it.

Title: Golden Balls : Asian Tgirl Delivery Service
Possible Stars : Eva Lin, Annalise Rose, Bora Gin, Venus Lux, Kimora Jade or other Asian-American Tgirls.
Director: Blackula or Buddy Wood
5 interlocking scenes to be sold to ShemalePornstar.com, released as a DVD and VOD.

Concept: Men or couples can call out for a tgirl to be delivered to their home, hotel or office. Choose from Sweet or Sour, massage girl, Mesuki Mefucki or the Iron Chef!

Each scene opens with someone perusing the menu before making the call. The script would be comedic and the girl of their choice would arrive.

Scenes could include;
a) Man and Wife call out for massage girls, who come and massage them either in same room or seperate (or even better with a screen in between). The tgirl with husband secretly masturbates/bj's him while telling him to be quiet ... while the same goes on behind the screen. After they finish the massages leave (both getting secretly slipped a big tip) while the wife and husband say it's the best massage they ever had ... which leads onto ...
b) the two massage girls from above are now horny and need to get off, while leaving the building they come across a guy in the elevator and hitting the stop button have a three way with him in the elevator.

c) guy orders the "sweet" version and the girls comes out and is all loving and tender ... call girl situation. It's all going well until they get naked when she suddenly gets demanding and either fucks the shit out of his mouth and ass or demands the same. He's scared but does it but saying, I ordered the sweet!!! She responds "Fuck you, you fucking order Sweet AND Sour" !!!

d) The Iron Chef. A number of concepts here but could be a naked tgirl chef showing how to cook her favorite meal to a guy who has ordered it, things get out of hand as she handles the carrots and cucumber which soon end up buried elsewhere ... and kitchen sex commences.
OR
The Iron Chef (male) could bring a Tgirl as a centerpiece for a table as men eat their food off her using chopsticks which soon turn into pulling nipples, masturbating and fucking on the table.

e) Choose from other Asian stereotype scenes. Geisha, bukkake (or reverse bukkake ie; all the girls in the DVD pay the guy taking the call in cum on his face, karate/kung fu trainer, sexy Asian lawyer or Doctor.


There you go - off the top my head in the 10 mins.

Wendy Summers
04-17-2013, 09:33 PM
Off the top my head in the 10 mins.

So... does this mean's Franklin's right that you're only half-assing your shoots? :dancing::dancing::dancing::dancing:

:joke:

In all seriousness -- on the off-handed chance I decide to submit one of these...if they are crowd funded... what happens to income above the production costs?

GroobySteven
04-17-2013, 09:35 PM
So... does this mean's Franklin's right that you're only half-assing your shoots? :dancing::dancing::dancing::dancing:

:joke:

In all seriousness -- on the off-handed chance I decide to submit one of these...if they are crowd funded... what happens to income above the production costs?

Said in first proposal. Profit would be split between between the investors based on the percentage they put in. There would have to be some rules of course and we'll get to that if we get that far.

EvaCassini
04-17-2013, 09:35 PM
hahahaha silly Wendy :)

tsloverinco69
04-17-2013, 10:40 PM
OK, here's my idea.
It's for an amateur DVD.
Find amateur guys who want to hook up with a transexual escorts, (shouldn't be too difficult).
The production crew would pay for the hooker and hotel room.
Make a deal with the hooker to be filmed, (probably have to pay her extra).
Then film and photograph the encounter.
The reason it would be so hot is that it allows for the DVD viewer to put them mentally in the position of being in the risque and erotic encounter.
Maybe even a POV style film would be nice to enhance the viewing experience.

GroobySteven
04-17-2013, 10:43 PM
OK, here's my idea.
It's for an amateur DVD.
Find amateur guys who want to hook up with a transexual escorts, (shouldn't be too difficult).
The production crew would pay for the hooker and hotel room.
Make a deal with the hooker to be filmed, (probably have to pay her extra).
Then film and photograph the encounter.
The reason it would be so hot is that it allows for the DVD viewer to put them mentally in the position of being in the risque and erotic encounter.
Maybe even a POV style film would be nice to enhance the viewing experience.

Good ideas - will respond tomorrow.

Willie Escalade
04-17-2013, 10:59 PM
Hopefully they're TRUE amateurs...not like the "amateurs" on TS Seduction..

BluegrassCat
04-17-2013, 11:19 PM
Ok I guess I need to help you guys out a bit - you need to come up with more than a few titles names and lose ideas. Here's a sample of how you should present it.



Title: Tran Sexual Predator
Possible Stars: (Just one) Sasha Strokes, Mia Isabella, Natalia Coxxx or any dominant girl who can act. Lance Hart
Director: Not sure - maybe TomCat or Buddy Wood
Three scenes comprising one story - released in VOD or DVD or one scene at a time on website TBD

Concept: A playboy is seduced, captured and turned out by a femdom transsexual who's a bigger player than he is. This involves far more dialogue than the usual tgirl porn so some minimum acting ability would be required.

Scene 1: Nightclub. Lance is chatting up women and doing well. We see tgirl (lets say Natalia) checking him out and saunters up to him. He tries to chat her up but she shoots him down and makes fun of his game. When Lance is about to give up on her, she drags him to the bathroom. Heavy make-out, he sucks her tits, she gets on her knees and blows him - lots of ball-handling and nipple-tweaking - a very aggressive blowjob. Her bulge is shown to camera but never him. After he cums, she pulls a chastity cage out of her purse and slips it on him and locks it. Tells him if he ever wants out of it to meet her at the club again tomorrow night.

Scene 2: Lance (at home) tries to get the cage off unsuccessfully. Pissed off but out of options he heads to the club as instructed. In the club he meets a former hookup who comes onto him, cupping his crotch and discovering the device. She teases him about it. Desperate and embarrassed he hurries to finds Natalia and begs her to give him the key. She says she will once he's earned it. Back to the bathroom for more making out but this time he blows her after some resistance. She cums and tells him he hasn't earned the key yet and that he has to come to her house the following night.

Scene 3: Lance at her home. More teasing from her and begging from him. She makes it clear butt-sex is the payment for release and Lance balks but faced with the choice of butt-sex or more chastity he eventually agrees. Make-out followed by him blowing her while she fingers him. She tops him in multiple positions. Finish in missionary, she removes device and jerks him off while fucking him. Once she finishes, she tells him she has work early and kicks him out.

Epilogue: Back in the club, we see Natalia taking some other guy by the hand into the bathroom and she winks at the camera.

Willie Escalade
04-17-2013, 11:29 PM
I can see TS Seduction doing this...

nysprod
04-18-2013, 03:58 AM
Title: Tran Sexual Predator
Possible Stars: (Just one) Sasha Strokes, Mia Isabella, Natalia Coxxx or any dominant girl who can act. Lance Hart
Director: Not sure - maybe TomCat or Buddy Wood
Three scenes comprising one story - released in VOD or DVD or one scene at a time on website TBD

Concept: A playboy is seduced, captured and turned out by a femdom transsexual who's a bigger player than he is. This involves far more dialogue than the usual tgirl porn so some minimum acting ability would be required.

You left out who you're going to get to do the screenplay and how much you're going to pay for it...which porn performer from your list do you think can act at all? And why?


Scene 1: Nightclub. Lance is chatting up women and doing well.

We know this how?


After he cums, she pulls a chastity cage out of her purse and slips it on him and locks it. Tells him if he ever wants out of it to meet her at the club again tomorrow night.

What, he just stands there while she does it? So far we've wasted how much time before getting to one crummy BJ?


Scene 2: Lance (at home) tries to get the cage off unsuccessfully. Pissed off but out of options he heads to the club as instructed. In the club he meets a former hookup who comes onto him, cupping his crotch and discovering the device. She teases him about it. Desperate and embarrassed he hurries to finds Natalia and begs her to give him the key. She says she will once he's earned it. Back to the bathroom for more making out but this time he blows her after some resistance. She cums and tells him he hasn't earned the key yet and that he has to come to her house the following night.

Wait, he never knew she was TS and now he's so desperate to get his cock cage removed, this straight guy just blows her? It looks like the object of the plot so far is to see some guy being humiliated...not sexy and not what probably 98% of your typical consumer of TS porn has any interest in purchasing.


Scene 3: Lance at her home. More teasing from her and begging from him. She makes it clear butt-sex is the payment for release and Lance balks but faced with the choice of butt-sex or more chastity he eventually agrees. Make-out followed by him blowing her while she fingers him. She tops him in multiple positions. Finish in missionary, she removes device and jerks him off while fucking him. Once she finishes, she tells him she has work early and kicks him out.

Just can't get away from the humiliated male thing...how about if he just beats the shit out of her instead?


Epilogue: Back in the club, we see Natalia taking some other guy by the hand into the bathroom and she winks at the camera.

I like the idea of the girl winking to the camera, but I wouldn't even bother with this if was on a tube site.

nysprod
04-18-2013, 04:27 AM
Ok I guess I need to help you guys out a bit - you need to come up with more than a few titles names and lose ideas. Here's a sample of how you should present it.



Getting way too over-thought and complex...this isn't Goodfellas...I want hot performers with great chemistry.

I gave you a simple, workable scenario (Shemale Nuru Massage) that can be shot inexpensively and is likely to turn a tidy profit. IMO Ty Roderick is an exceptional performer who hasn't been overused in TS porn...Jane Marie and Ty will be a hot couple, and so will Ty and Domino (Honey Fox and Ty would be great too, and she works great with Jane). In fact, an epic ending would be Jane taking a cum shot from Ty and Honey at the same time just as she did when she worked with Honey alone.

Putting all three of them together and just getting out of way and letting the performers do what comes naturally is the way to go. Enough with the arsty-fartsy stuff.

BluegrassCat
04-18-2013, 04:43 AM
You left out who you're going to get to do the screenplay and how much you're going to pay for it...which porn performer from your list do you think can act at all? And why?



We know this how?



What, he just stands there while she does it? So far we've wasted how much time before getting to one crummy BJ?



Wait, he never knew she was TS and now he's so desperate to get his cock cage removed, this straight guy just blows her? It looks like the object of the plot so far is to see some guy being humiliated...not sexy and not what probably 98% of your typical consumer of TS porn has any interest in purchasing.



Just can't get away from the humiliated male thing...how about if he just beats the shit out of her instead?



I like the idea of the girl winking to the camera, but I wouldn't even bother with this if was on a tube site.

LOL. Glad you had a fun evening.

BluegrassCat
04-18-2013, 04:44 AM
I can see TS Seduction doing this...

It's exactly their thing but why not do a little poaching on their territory. They've been slacking lately.

nysprod
04-18-2013, 04:45 AM
LOL. Glad you had a fun evening.

Thanks...doing the laundry so I had some time to kill...

nowist7
04-18-2013, 08:33 AM
Personally I'd love to see scenes with the tgirls just being normal girls. None of that lingerie porn star stuff. A super passable girl dressed like the average girl at the mall turns me on more than anything else. I'm sure I'm not the only legs/feet guy here, I love seeing girls in leggings and flats.

There should be some kind of intro or story where you can get a good look at the girl and check her out before they get down to business. I want to see passable girls being completely passive. Have her give the guy a lap dance and slowly start to blow him before finally straddling him and taking it. Finally at the end she should swallow his load, you hardly ever see that in ts films.

I'd also like to see some more foot worship type stuff with tgirls. A tgirl in leggings doing some footdom, getting her feet worshipped by either a guy or girl would be hot as hell. It's virtually non-existent, only the clips4sale store Brazil Shemale Domination comes to mind.

Finally, ever since I saw that scene with Alexis (Sarina Valentina) and her FTM boyfriend I've been looking ALL over for other MTF/FTM scenes. There's only two other scenes like that, the one with BUck Angel/Allanah Star and the one with Hera C. A "straight" scene with a masculine FTM fucking a super feminine passive tgirl would be so hot.

GroobySteven
04-18-2013, 09:23 AM
Getting way too over-thought and complex...this isn't Goodfellas...I want hot performers with great chemistry.

I gave you a simple, workable scenario (Shemale Nuru Massage) that can be shot inexpensively and is likely to turn a tidy profit. IMO Ty Roderick is an exceptional performer who hasn't been overused in TS porn...Jane Marie and Ty will be a hot couple, and so will Ty and Domino (Honey Fox and Ty would be great too, and she works great with Jane). In fact, an epic ending would be Jane taking a cum shot from Ty and Honey at the same time just as she did when she worked with Honey alone.

Putting all three of them together and just getting out of way and letting the performers do what comes naturally is the way to go. Enough with the arsty-fartsy stuff.

No over-thinking it at all but fair enough if you claim "can be shot inexpensively and is likely to turn a tidy profit" - let's see if you can put your money where your mouth is.
You haven't given enough detail of what this is to be? A DVD? 1 scene with Ty and Jane Marie? How do you expect a budget to be made up when you spend more time putting down someone else's idea yet turn in a half-baked idea?

Willie Escalade
04-18-2013, 09:54 AM
If I had the extra bread I'd shoot my suggestion...or pay someone to do it for me. I guess it's too artsy for the crowd...

nowist7
04-18-2013, 10:32 AM
Well here's my dream DVD. I know most of this is pretty niche, if at least one of these could be done that would be awesome.

The concept kinda comes from the "Transgender ladies in real life" threads. The idea is just passable tgirls in real life situations rather than porn stars prancing around in lingerie.

Title: Real College T-girls Swallow
Possible Stars : Valerie Daniels, Eva Winters, Jane Marie, Natalie Foxx, Celeste, Amy Daly, Sunshyne, cute passable tgirls etc
Director: Kevin Dong or something

Concept: Guys pick up cute, college-aged passive tgirls and fuck their brains out and finish in their mouths with the girls swallowing.

Each scene opens with someone at a different location checking out a girl then hitting on her.

Scenes could include:

a) A guy and his buddy are at the mall and spot two cute girls. They are your typical college girls, one is dressed in a tunic with black leggings and flats, the other is wearing leggings also but with uggs instead etc. The guys hit on them and bring them back to the apartment. The guys sit down on the couch as the girls pose and model a bit for them. The girls then straddle them and give them lapdances. After the lapdances the guys proceed to fuck the girls' brains out. There's lots of dirty talk with the guys calling them bitches and sluts and the girls saying 'fuck me daddy' etc. The guys finish in the girls' mouths and they swallow everything.

b) A guy visits a strip club where a tgirl is putting herself through college by stirpping and pole dancing (not just posing around the pole but actually wrapping her legs on it and spinning around etc.) People are stuffing dollars in her thong and eventually the guy agrees to follow her to the private room for a lap dance. She dances a bit then blows him and bends over for him to fuck her.

c) Niche scene: A role reversal type scene with a FTM and MTF couple. A masculine FTM fucks a feminine tgirl and shows her who the man is. She blows his "cock" and takes it from various positions as he dominates her and makes her please him.

d) Niche scene 2: A cute tgirl in leggings takes off her shoes as she beckons a guy or girl to come worship her feet. She sits on a chair or something as they kneel on the ground and enthusiastically kiss and suck on her toes. Occasionally she spits in their mouth.

e) Behind-the-scenes: Show the girls in candid real life situations and also show them getting dressed and preparing for the scenes.

Willie Escalade
04-18-2013, 11:03 AM
Your very last suggestion should be seen a LOT more often. Yes, it can be sexy watching a gal get ready for a scene.

nysprod
04-18-2013, 04:51 PM
Well here's my dream DVD. I know most of this is pretty niche, if at least one of these could be done that would be awesome.

The concept kinda comes from the "Transgender ladies in real life" threads. The idea is just passable tgirls in real life situations rather than porn stars prancing around in lingerie.

What's amazing is that out of this whole thread there's only about 4 people or so who have thrown out any ideas, and two of us have wanted to use "Shemales in Real Life" as a basis.

BTW, I already posted my "Shemale Sorority" idea. But that's ok, because "Shemales in Real Life" is destined to become one of those series that just keeps going on and on.

I've already taken the liberty of registering reallifeshemales.com and shemalesinreallife.com, and I've just copyrighted "Shemales in Real Life" and "Real Life Shemales" as well.

nysprod
04-18-2013, 04:55 PM
Duplicate post...how do you delete these anyway?

bluesoul
04-18-2013, 05:06 PM
Personally I'd love to see scenes with the tgirls just being normal girls. None of that lingerie porn star stuff. A super passable girl dressed like the average girl at the mall turns me on more than anything else. I'm sure I'm not the only legs/feet guy here, I love seeing girls in leggings and flats.

this might seem like a good idea in nacogdoches texas where human beings are rare, but trust me, in new york or los angeles or any other major metropolis all someone has to do with walk to a coffee shop and people watch for an hour to see that, or go on youtube and search for videos transsexuals post themselves.

GroobySteven
04-18-2013, 05:11 PM
this might seem like a good idea in nacogdoches texas where human beings are rare, but trust me, in new york or los angeles or any other major metropolis all someone has to do with walk to a coffee shop and people watch for an hour to see that, or go on youtube and search for videos transsexuals post themselves.


Most of our customers are in Bumfuck, Texas/Illinois/Nebraska/Kansas. Married to Marge/Olga/Mabel and have never been to a proper coffee shop.

nysprod
04-18-2013, 05:11 PM
No over-thinking it at all but fair enough if you claim "can be shot inexpensively and is likely to turn a tidy profit" - let's see if you can put your money where your mouth is.
You haven't given enough detail of what this is to be? A DVD? 1 scene with Ty and Jane Marie? How do you expect a budget to be made up when you spend more time putting down someone else's idea yet turn in a half-baked idea?

Fine...I already said I'd put up the money for the shoot if the proper business structure can be set up.

Distribution? That's your end, man...I'm not in the business...distribute it any way you can...DVD, VOD, tablets, whatever.

BTW, much as this disappoints me, I have it from a very good source the Ty may not be the right choice. I'm going to PM the situation to you.

GroobySteven
04-18-2013, 05:13 PM
Distribution? That's your end man...I'm not in the business...distribute it any way you can...DVD, VOD, tablets, whatever.


Fair enough but the format would suggest the selling. ie; you can't sell a DVD with one scene.

nysprod
04-18-2013, 05:19 PM
Fair enough but the format would suggest the selling. ie; you can't sell a DVD with one scene.

Ok, I'll tell you what...my first thought would be to start with VOD, which means shooting 1 or 2 scenes...if the sales seem good, then do a full length.

dbev
04-18-2013, 08:50 PM
Most of TS porn is just deadly boring because it is clear that the people involved are not having fun.

My opinion is that a scene is good only if the people involved want to fuck each other stupid.

EvaCassini
04-18-2013, 10:17 PM
Your very last suggestion should be seen a LOT more often. Yes, it can be sexy watching a gal get ready for a scene.

Making it ;)

Dino Velvet
04-19-2013, 12:15 AM
Most of our customers are in Bumfuck, Texas/Illinois/Nebraska/Kansas. Married to Marge/Olga/Mabel and have never been to a proper coffee shop.

Watch out for this one intercepting the mail on the front porch.

Crazy American Christian Woman Goes into a Religious Rage aka "God Warrior" - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qjl54v1irbs)

nysprod
04-19-2013, 02:27 AM
Most of TS porn is just deadly boring because it is clear that the people involved are not having fun.

My opinion is that a scene is good only if the people involved want to fuck each other stupid.

Hella don't wanna see Willie E and Dino fuck no matta how much they into it...

tsloverinco69
04-19-2013, 05:41 AM
Good ideas - will respond tomorrow.

for a title how about "Buddy Woods Amateur Escapades"?
If masks were optional for the amateurs, I might partake.