What turns on transexual women?

[tluva]

I know this question has been asked in many forms, and I don't want to start any arguments.

As you all know, most men who like transexual women would probably not consider themselves gay.

I fall into that category (don't consider myself gay). So it's a bit hard to understand what women, GG or TS, find attractive in men.

More so TS. Because I would think on the one hand, you might be attracted to masculine guys, but on the other hand, I wonder are you attracted to guys who act fem in bed?

Do you prefer hairy guys, or guys who shave?

I guess I'm specifically asking about physical, sexual attraction, not money or conversation. And I know there is no "one" answer, but I'm wondering what really gets you hard?

Do you alternate between wanting to be the girl in porn (assuming straight porn) and the guy?

I ask because I'm starting to date a TS girl, and when I ask her, she's aloof and says she likes me just the way I am. But sometimes I feel like I want to be more fem or my usual masculine self in bed -- and I don't want to turn her off by being fem. I really want to please her, but feel like it's hard for me to really understand what she truly finds sexually attractive.

[Ms.Stepford]

It's really different for everyone.

On some guys, a little femme works. On some guys not.

I like mostly hairy guys, and I've never wanted to be the guy.

If she's dating you, she's probably attracted to whomever you have been while you've known her.

[timxxx]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-b-fpoiHHIvg/TVUj-Fru9MI/AAAAAAAAALY/gAqJCJlvFCk/s400/Manolo-Blahnik-Lace-Overlay-Orsay.jpg

[Ms.Stepford]

Or what timxxx said!

[tluva]

I've always been really masculine (i.e. sharp jaw line, work out, deep voice, strong silent type), but I've been told I'm a pretty boy too.

Somewhere along the line -- probably watching too much porn -- I've fantasized about being the girl.

I still know I'm not gay because I'm not attracted to masculinity (not sure if that's the definition, and frankly, not sure if it matters if I am or not).

She likes being a top.. but with me, she likes to bottom too, though tells me that she usually won't bottom for others.

So I guess I worry that she wants me to be the "guy" that I am, and if I shave, and tan, and paint my toe nails, and stuff... she'll be turned off.

I've kind of asked her in a round about way, and again, she's like.. "Eh, that's cool. Not required."

So I got the impression she wasn't super into it... but there's a part of me that really desires it. It's side of me I feel I can only share with a TS, and never a GG. So I guess if it's a turn off for her, it would disappoint me a little.

[Ms.Stepford]

Well, if you think a trans girl is more likely to be accepting of your feminine side than a natal girl, you'll find yourself mistaken most of the time.

Personally I think it's only really fun topping when it's a manly man, in stark physical contrast to me.

[tluva]

Hmm, interesting. You like topping when the guy is masculine?

Not to pry, but would you be willing to explain that a bit more? It would help me understand and feel better about accommodating her -- assuming she feels similarly.

[Ms.Stepford]

It's just a fun role reversal. Especially if he's a lot bigger than me. I just like him to be big and rugged and manly, and then contrary to what anyone would assume if they saw the two of us outside of fucking, he spreads it for me and wants it.

[tluva]

Interesting. Still a little hard to understand, cause it sounds like the dark secret is that he's your little slut bitch in the bedroom. Which is hot, and what I wana be sometimes. Not all the time, but sometimes.

I dunno, maybe I shouldn't think too much about it.

Oddly, I'm rather big.. bigger than most.. but she's bigger than me! She's huge though!

Anyway, not sure why I shared that.. just thinking of her and smiling.

[GiDM]

That's a nice shoe. Lol

[Ms.Stepford]

Well, thanks for sharing, but I mean that his whole body is bigger than mine.

It's funny. Whenever you say bigger around guys, the first thing they think about is cock.

[tluva]

Lol. Oh.. hehe.. yeah, my bad. Yeah, I'm definitely bigger than her in terms of my physic. She's not short, but my arms and back are bigger. She's more girly, and cute.

[robertlouis]

It's just a fun role reversal. Especially if he's a lot bigger than me. I just like him to be big and rugged and manly, and then contrary to what anyone would assume if they saw the two of us outside of fucking, he spreads it for me and wants it.

I see a future for you here as the go-to gal for sex advice, Ms S.

[Ms.Stepford]

Ha, well I'm sure there are a lot of gals around here with just as much and more experience!

[robertlouis]

Ha, well I'm sure there are a lot of gals around here with just as much and more experience!

Maybe, but you deliver it straight and very much to the point. And that's a compliment.

[Ms.Stepford]

Well, I'll keep delivering it as such and it'll be great...until I unintentionally cause someone a chemical burn or something, when I will be disavowed as Go-to Gal and publicly shamed.

[robertlouis]

Well, I'll keep delivering it as such and it'll be great...until I unintentionally cause someone a chemical burn or something, when I will be disavowed as Go-to Gal and publicly shamed.

.... and at that point you become the Kim Kardashian of transsexual porn. It's a win/win. :dancing:

[Ms.Stepford]

As long as there's a Kanye waiting!

[robertlouis]

As long as there's a Kanye waiting!

So maybe it isn't a win/win..... :hide-1:

[Ms.Stepford]

I love Kanye, so it's good for me!

[sheyum]

Hey TLuva
interesting topic...very...

but one thing you said REALLY caught my interest....because its something ive thought about alot and never heard Anybody mention..

You said that somewhere along the line you started fantasizing about being the woman--PROBABLY FROM WATCHING TOO MUCH PORN"

this could be a thread unto itself....because thats where i think MY interest in T-girls comes from....theres something about wathcing alot of porn..that all of a sudden makes the cock..and the idea of being fucked---become erotic..

its like something happens in your brain..from all the porn...that makes you fixate on the cock...though you dont have any actual "gay" tendecies at all.
you have no interest in a guy...youre totally into women...but the cock--and the penetration..and the being fucked and taken....sparks some sexual thing inside of you..


Does what Im saying resonate with anyone else here?

sorry--hope im not hijacking your thread..if so--ill start another.
but it was what you said here that made me bring it up..

thoughts>?













I've always been really masculine (i.e. sharp jaw line, work out, deep voice, strong silent type), but I've been told I'm a pretty boy too.

Somewhere along the line -- probably watching too much porn -- I've fantasized about being the girl.

I still know I'm not gay because I'm not attracted to masculinity (not sure if that's the definition, and frankly, not sure if it matters if I am or not).

She likes being a top.. but with me, she likes to bottom too, though tells me that she usually won't bottom for others.

So I guess I worry that she wants me to be the "guy" that I am, and if I shave, and tan, and paint my toe nails, and stuff... she'll be turned off.

I've kind of asked her in a round about way, and again, she's like.. "Eh, that's cool. Not required."

So I got the impression she wasn't super into it... but there's a part of me that really desires it. It's side of me I feel I can only share with a TS, and never a GG. So I guess if it's a turn off for her, it would disappoint me a little.

[nysprod]

What turns on TS women...let me think...oh, I know...

This will get her to look at you...

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Now she'll smile and start acting like she likes you...

http://www.sciencebuzz.org/sites/default/files/images/100dollarbill.jpg

Shall I go on?

[Janna_b]

What turns on TS women...let me think...oh, I know...

This will get her to look at you...

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSuM3gvzeO1mOz6fJVEkAj1t04q-lM3o17ToxLnJ1z4PoG0KAy-

Now she'll smile and start acting like she likes you...

http://www.sciencebuzz.org/sites/default/files/images/100dollarbill.jpg

Shall I go on?


HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, that applies to so many girls I know. They demand to be accepted for who they are and not what's between their legs, yet if you won't pony up the cash she doesn't want anything to do with you.

Gives nice girls like me such a bad name.

[robertlouis]

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, that applies to so many girls I know. They demand to be accepted for who they are and not what's between their legs, yet if you won't pony up the cash she doesn't want anything to do with you.

Gives nice girls like me such a bad name.

Bless you, Janna. How's life treating you?

[nysprod]

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, that applies to so many girls I know. They demand to be accepted for who they are and not what's between their legs, yet if you won't pony up the cash she doesn't want anything to do with you.

Gives nice girls like me such a bad name.

If I seem a tad cynical, it's because I'm not in the best of moods tonight...

[Miss Sex Appeal]

I know this question has been asked in many forms, and I don't want to start any arguments.

As you all know, most men who like transexual women would probably not consider themselves gay.

I fall into that category (don't consider myself gay). So it's a bit hard to understand what women, GG or TS, find attractive in men.

More so TS. Because I would think on the one hand, you might be attracted to masculine guys, but on the other hand, I wonder are you attracted to guys who act fem in bed?

Do you prefer hairy guys, or guys who shave?

I guess I'm specifically asking about physical, sexual attraction, not money or conversation. And I know there is no "one" answer, but I'm wondering what really gets you hard?

Do you alternate between wanting to be the girl in porn (assuming straight porn) and the guy?

I ask because I'm starting to date a TS girl, and when I ask her, she's aloof and says she likes me just the way I am. But sometimes I feel like I want to be more fem or my usual masculine self in bed -- and I don't want to turn her off by being fem. I really want to please her, but feel like it's hard for me to really understand what she truly finds sexually attractive.

Each trans is different but speaking for myself I get turned on by 'REAL' straight guys. Chasers turn me off big time to be honest UNLESS he is super duper handsome and PROMISE to behave like a REAL straight guy and not behave like a fag with me on bed as being a sissy trying to touch my dick(if i still had) and wanting me to top him. I HATE guys who shave their cocks, for me 'REAL' men should not shave down there. Concerning your girl, be aware that there are girls who like chasers and girls who don't and others neutral. You need to pin what type she is before you act whatsoever but if she says she accepts you as you are then it wouldn't be a problem after all. First try by asking her if she likes her cock being touched and if she says no, better start behaving like a 'REAL' straight guy. :dancing:

[f-finger]

Each trans is different but speaking for myself I get turned on by 'REAL' straight guys. Chasers turn me off big time to be honest UNLESS he is super duper handsome and PROMISE to behave like a REAL straight guy and not behave like a fag with me on bed as being a sissy trying to touch my dick(if i still had) and wanting me to top him. I HATE guys who shave their cocks, for me 'REAL' men should not shave down there. Concerning your girl, be aware that there are girls who like chasers and girls who don't and others neutral. You need to pin what type she is before you act whatsoever but if she says she accepts you as you are then it wouldn't be a problem after all. First try by asking her if she likes her cock being touched and if she says no, better start behaving like a 'REAL' straight guy. :dancing:

Flaw in this "logic" though is, no 'REAL' straight men would have sex with anybody knowingly that this very person was born male. Of course, there are trannies out there who live that "dream" which is nothing else than a combination of delusional self perception and simple fakery, in order to follow the western mainstream dogma of heterosexuality as the norm versus anything else.

Second here we have another case of defining what is "straight" by thev mere sexact. In other words getting fucked and sucking dick is GAY. Again, acc. to this "logics", a gay dude who is strictly a dominant top would be , well, 'straight'.

[tluva]

I consider myself straight because I'm not attracted to masculine features. If a TS girl is not feminine enough, I can't get into it.

That said, we all have a feminine and masculine side. Sexual exploration with a TS girl for me tends to be far more liberating in terms of exploring my feminine side. I couldn't let a GG girl see that side of me. Yes, maybe it's all social/cultural conditioning, but whatever it is, with a GG girl, I'm the man and I don't even let her go near my ass.

With a TS girl, I know she's a boy, but she's also a girl. I mean, yes, she was born a boy but her phycology, her physical aesthetics, her emotional state, etc... blur the lines.

So being attracted to them, wanting to fuck them and exploring them fucking you is reasonable, and rather rational -- if you accept being attracted to femininity and the desire to explore your own femininity.

I guess my point is, this idea of being gay because you want to worship a TS girls cock, body, ass... and have her play with yours too seems inconsistent with what I've always understood "gay" to mean. To me, most TS girls are gay because they're attracted to masculinity. Guys that are attracted to masculinity are gay too. Guys that are into weird taboo kink, but are strictly attracted to femininity don't seem to fit the idea of gay -- at least in my mind.

[nysprod]

I consider myself straight because I'm not attracted to masculine features. If a TS girl is not feminine enough, I can't get into it.

That said, we all have a feminine and masculine side. Sexual exploration with a TS girl for me tends to be far more liberating in terms of exploring my feminine side. I couldn't let a GG girl see that side of me. Yes, maybe it's all social/cultural conditioning, but whatever it is, with a GG girl, I'm the man and I don't even let her go near my ass.

With a TS girl, I know she's a boy, but she's also a girl. I mean, yes, she was born a boy but her phycology, her physical aesthetics, her emotional state, etc... blur the lines.

So being attracted to them, wanting to fuck them and exploring them fucking you is reasonable, and rather rational -- if you accept being attracted to femininity and the desire to explore your own femininity.

I guess my point is, this idea of being gay because you want to worship a TS girls cock, body, ass... and have her play with yours too seems inconsistent with what I've always understood "gay" to mean. To me, most TS girls are gay because they're attracted to masculinity. Guys that are attracted to masculinity are gay too. Guys that are into weird taboo kink, but are strictly attracted to femininity don't seem to fit the idea of gay -- at least in my mind.

Totally agree...here's the thing:

1. Are guys like us who are into TGirls totally straight? I say no.

2. Are we gay? Again, I say no.

So what are we? There really isn't a word or terminology for us...not that I really care one way or the other what someone wants to label me, but I'm just saying we're in some sort of in between thing that isn't easily categorized.

Either way, I accept myself for who I am.

[bluesoul]

Each trans is different but speaking for myself I get turned on by 'REAL' straight guys.

those unfortunately have an interest in 'REAL' women

you shouldn't dismiss the chasers because they'll pay your bills

[tluva]

I don't think we need a third category here. There's straight and gay. Homosexuality by definition means attracted to the same sex.

I'm not. I'm attracted to women. Transexuals look, act, and smell like women. The fact that they have a penis is just a kinky taboo irony. I look at my cock all the time, and cock is all over porn, so it's not like I'm offended by cock. When I take in the whole sight of a transexual girl, the entire form is still very much feminine and that's what I'm attracted to.

As for being a bottom, that too is not necessarily gay in my mind.

A) Anal stimulation feels good, and it's a known fact that many straight couples practice it (on the guy)
B) I'm in touch with my feminine side (which we all have). Not so much that I'm going around all flamboyant like a stereotypical gay dude, but I do envy the pussy power, and how sexy women are, and sometimes I want to be worshiped like that too.

But at the end of the day, I'd man up and do whatever a typical straight guy does. I see myself wanting a wife, and kids, and a normal straight life and being very content with that.

Most GG girls I've dated are snobby little princesses. Not that TS girls are much better, but I hoped that since we have something more in common <cough> that it would be easier to get along with them.

Generally speaking that's been true. On this forum, not so much.

[Vic]

Sounds good to me!

[Miss Sex Appeal]

those unfortunately have an interest in 'REAL' women

you shouldn't dismiss the chasers because they'll pay your bills

As long as 'real' straights don't know anything, everything will be fine. Passable post-op trannies should just learn for to stfu and keep their past to themselves. I never dismissed chasers as they were my source of income before and I am thankful to them but still if you ask me PERSONALLY what turns me on and many other girls they would answer you the same thing.

[inSD]

finger has it right


Flaw in this "logic" though is, no 'REAL' straight men would have sex with anybody knowingly that this very person was born male. Of course, there are trannies out there who live that "dream" which is nothing else than a combination of delusional self perception and simple fakery, in order to follow the western mainstream dogma of heterosexuality as the norm versus anything else.

Second here we have another case of defining what is "straight" by thev mere sexact. In other words getting fucked and sucking dick is GAY. Again, acc. to this "logics", a gay dude who is strictly a dominant top would be , well, 'straight'.

[sheyum]

It's not only that...its not just about paying bills...
thats all anyone ever talks about here!!

We're ALSO --the only people who ACCEPT and really appreciate T-girls..
they never seem to consider that..
Trust me--these STRAIGHT guys that they so crave,--don;t want them.
its a total fucking illusion..

the whole thing is bizarre

by the way--noone responded to my question a few paged back..which i thought was very interesting...
The original poster of this thread is the one person who keeps saying things that make me feel like we're really on the same page..but he didnt answer either




those unfortunately have an interest in 'REAL' women

you shouldn't dismiss the chasers because they'll pay your bills

[Ms.Stepford]

Ummm...all guys would hook up with a trans woman if nobody is going to find out. I've proven this time and time again. Fuck, not two hours ago, a guy who wasn't planning on hooking up with me paid me eighty bucks to suck my cock.

This whole "you girls should appreciate us because we show you basic human decency" attitude is full of shit. Everyone should worship us.

[Miss Sex Appeal]

It's not only that...its not just about paying bills...
thats all anyone ever talks about here!!

We're ALSO --the only people who ACCEPT and really appreciate T-girls..
they never seem to consider that..
Trust me--these STRAIGHT guys that they so crave,--don;t want them.
its a total fucking illusion..



Telling us this is like telling you to accept cross-dressers or girls with no boob implants with flat chest cos we we don't like you or it's like telling a straight guy go fuck gay guys as girls are too difficult to get.

TV/CD escorts want you chasers, you chasers want us trannies, we trannies want real straight men and real straight men want real biological women...it's how the world spins

[girl]

TV/CD escorts want you chasers, you chasers want us trannies, we trannies want real straight men and real straight men want real biological women...it's how the world spins

..huh... and who wants TV/CD escorts? ... my guess: real biological women who happen to be married to them? :)

[sheyum]

i think not...first of all...i wasnt saying that you should "worship us because we accept you"--i was saying that you shouldnt hate the very people who accept and like you..

and---as far as your analysis...the only group there who is NOT going to succeed...is the T-girls who want the REAL straight men...

its a joke..

i HATE when they refer to them as the REAL straight men...

and you are the REAL women?/

come on...




Telling us this is like telling you to accept cross-dressers or girls with no boob implants with flat chest cos we we don't like you or it's like telling a straight guy go fuck gay guys as girls are too difficult to get.

TV/CD escorts want you chasers, you chasers want us trannies, we trannies want real straight men and real straight men want real biological women...it's how the world spins

[nysprod]

Fuck, not two hours ago, a guy who wasn't planning on hooking up with me paid me eighty bucks to suck my cock.



Nice work if you can get it...lol.

[TempestTS]

Other Trans Women - I like guys and girls but Damn Ive been gradually turning into a huge Trans-Lesbian I could tap T-Girl ass all night long :)

[robertlouis]

And so yet another thread turns to that tired old perennial, "Am I gay?" SMDH.

[MdR Dave]

I'm gonna bring this back to the title question and answer it.

I do. I turn on trans women. And GGs. And more than a few guys.

I don't understand, but I could charm the pants off the devil herself.

Wanna test that theory, Tempest? :)

[SXFX]

The jaded side of me wants to say $$$$$

But the more rational side of me says...any normal guy who knows how to use his dick to make her smile?

[amberskyi]

It's not only that...its not just about paying bills...
thats all anyone ever talks about here!!

We're ALSO --the only people who ACCEPT and really appreciate T-girls..
they never seem to consider that..
Trust me--these STRAIGHT guys that they so crave,--don;t want them.
its a total fucking illusion..

the whole thing is bizarre

by the way--noone responded to my question a few paged back..which i thought was very interesting...
The original poster of this thread is the one person who keeps saying things that make me feel like we're really on the same page..but he didnt answer either
I actually find that to not generally be the case.the last half dozen times I've been called a man wasn't by "straight" people but so called "admirers".
Not to mention half of y'all are so deeply closeted y'all are gathering dust

[amberskyi]

i think not...first of all...i wasnt saying that you should "worship us because we accept you"--i was saying that you shouldnt hate the very people who accept and like you..

and---as far as your analysis...the only group there who is NOT going to succeed...is the T-girls who want the REAL straight men...

its a joke..

i HATE when they refer to them as the REAL straight men...

and you are the REAL women?/

come on...
Point proven

[robertlouis]

I'd like to hope that being treated with respect and like a lady would be a good start, but in this world, who knows?

[TempestTS]

I'm gonna bring this back to the title question and answer it.

I do. I turn on trans women. And GGs. And more than a few guys.

I don't understand, but I could charm the pants off the devil herself.

Wanna test that theory, Tempest? :)


Sure but I cant get you on the schedule for a while - there's this huge back log of souls to process and I cant get behind or Ill miss my quota

Just remember Jesus Loves you - but I dont...

:joke:

[Saint_Frankenstein]

It's not only that...its not just about paying bills...
thats all anyone ever talks about here!!

We're ALSO --the only people who ACCEPT and really appreciate T-girls..
they never seem to consider that..
Trust me--these STRAIGHT guys that they so crave,--don;t want them.
its a total fucking illusion..

the whole thing is bizarre

by the way--noone responded to my question a few paged back..which i thought was very interesting...
The original poster of this thread is the one person who keeps saying things that make me feel like we're really on the same page..but he didnt answer either

What a crock of shit. As a trans guy, our issues are slightly different from the issues of trans women but we get chasers too and I have some experience with your type. I have no respect for y'all, male or female (yes, some women are chasers although the majority are, of course, male). You're just a bunch of fetishists who objectify trans people and are wildly ignorant about us. You types don't tend to know the first thing about us, our issues or our culture and have the nerve to act like you're true allies/love us/respect us/etc. Your delusional assertion that you're the "only ones who accept and really appreciate" trans women is a bunch of offensive and arrogant bullshit. How can you "accept" and "appreciate" them when you don't really understand them and most of you don't want to understand them?

All you'll ever be is a trick for a sex worker but never dating or relationship material, unless said trans person has no respect for his or her self.

Yes, I'm being blunt but you types piss me off.

[Ms.Stepford]

Whoa. He's fuckin' right though.

[MdR Dave]

Just remember Jesus loves you - but I dont...
:joke:

Do you mean Mr. Valencia, my neighbor? That guy is creepy. . .

[fred41]

...Wanna test that theory, Tempest? :)


Sure but I cant get you on the schedule for a while - there's this huge back log of souls to process and I cant get behind or Ill miss my quota

Just remember Jesus Loves you - but I dont...

:joke:

Hmmm...okay...baby steps.
I think you got your toe in the door Dave. Keep working it brother.



(...give up the soul, I heard they grow back sometimes)

[Saint_Frankenstein]

Whoa. He's fuckin' right though.

Hahaha. I'm somewhat passionate at times. :)

[EvonRose]

What a crock of shit. As a trans guy, our issues are slightly different from the issues of trans women but we get chasers too and I have some experience with your type. I have no respect for y'all, male or female (yes, some women are chasers although the majority are, of course, male). You're just a bunch of fetishists who objectify trans people and are wildly ignorant about us. You types don't tend to know the first thing about us, our issues or our culture and have the nerve to act like you're true allies/love us/respect us/etc. Your delusional assertion that you're the "only ones who accept and really appreciate" trans women is a bunch of offensive and arrogant bullshit. How can you "accept" and "appreciate" them when you don't really understand them and most of you don't want to understand them?

All you'll ever be is a trick for a sex worker but never dating or relationship material, unless said trans person has no respect for his or her self.

Yes, I'm being blunt but you types piss me off.

I agree.... not to sound like a chip not he shoulder...

But being in a forum like this, has to be taken with a grain of salt...

people say they love you and admire you, that usually means i want to fuck you and see your trans genitalia.... so i can get off...

The same people who claim to accept us are the first to leave us in the dust.

We are not looking for acceptance we are looking for fair treatment...

[Saint_Frankenstein]

I agree.... not to sound like a chip not he shoulder...

But being in a forum like this, has to be taken with a grain of salt...

people say they love you and admire you, that usually means i want to fuck you and see your trans genitalia.... so i can get off...

The same people who claim to accept us are the first to leave us in the dust.

We are not looking for acceptance we are looking for fair treatment...

That is so true. I have come to expect it though. I usually don't let it bother me but his asinine comment about them being the only ones who truly accept or appreciate trans women just grated on my nerves.

No wonder why I'd prefer to date other trans folks.

[EvonRose]

Also when I start dating I'm reserving sex till monogamy to see where his mind is really at...

Besides my fetish work, I am actually n to sexually active...

So the stereotype of ts being sexually active and always horny, not true...

A respectable guy who is not just a chaser will respect me for the woman I am.

A straight guy can still be attracted to a ts woman with or without the penis. because after all a heterosexual man is in like with the female form...

Chasers are attracted due to the hype, and somewhat a perverse thinking.

And I disagree...

any gender and any sexuality form can be attracted to trans people..

I have seen it with my own two big puppy eyes... and i swear by it... even gay men can like ts women sexually!!!!!

So trying to label yourself is almost useless because you all fall in-between regardless of how you rationalize it in society.

Now if I date a guy who happens to be attracted to me and tells me he wants to wait till i get an srs bec he wants pussy and not dick, maybe that is the exception to the rule... but If you have to question your sexuality in the first place, then that all leads the public to question it too..

If you were like " I like ts and gg, i'm straight and proud" that would be more admirable than.. "Am I gay for liken ts?" I don't want a guy who questions his sexuality! I want a confident strong, provider, and protector and not some coward closet case...

[EvonRose]

That is so true. I have come to expect it though. I usually don't let it bother me but his asinine comment about them being the only ones who truly accept or appreciate trans women just grated on my nerves.

No wonder why I'd prefer to date other trans folks.

And his comment is not true...

I am accepted and loved outside the gay community, hell many of my friends are straight men and they hit me up all the time and invite me out to the clubs and bars with them... and not even sexually, just chill and cool like i like it...

But to answer this question and not go off topic...

I like candles, dim lights, music, passionate sex in bed, or on a vacation having sex in our beach villa... scenery is everything....

[Saint_Frankenstein]

And his comment is not true...

I am accepted and loved outside the gay community, hell many of my friends are straight men and they hit me up all the time and invite me out to the clubs and bars with them... and not even sexually, just chill and cool like i like it...

But to answer this question and not go off topic...

I like candles, dim lights, music, passionate sex in bed, or on a vacation having sex in our beach villa... scenery is everything....

Yeah, I get girls (trans or not) who like me and think I'm a sweet/attractive guy, my trans status notwithstanding. Truthfully, almost all of the guys I've been friends with in my life have been gay or bi. I don't really associate too much with straight guys. I don't have much in common with them. Even some straight trans guys get on my nerves. The other trans guys I've known tended to be queers too. And I've had crushes on a bunch of them. Haha.

I like your tastes. Very classy. :)

[amberskyi]

What a crock of shit. As a trans guy, our issues are slightly different from the issues of trans women but we get chasers too and I have some experience with your type. I have no respect for y'all, male or female (yes, some women are chasers although the majority are, of course, male). You're just a bunch of fetishists who objectify trans people and are wildly ignorant about us. You types don't tend to know the first thing about us, our issues or our culture and have the nerve to act like you're true allies/love us/respect us/etc. Your delusional assertion that you're the "only ones who accept and really appreciate" trans women is a bunch of offensive and arrogant bullshit. How can you "accept" and "appreciate" them when you don't really understand them and most of you don't want to understand them?

All you'll ever be is a trick for a sex worker but never dating or relationship material, unless said trans person has no respect for his or her self.

Yes, I'm being blunt but you types piss me off.

PREACH! lol