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Dino Velvet
03-21-2013, 02:19 AM
Was it some sorta great location with lots of food? I forgot. Think I'm gonna watch The Island tonight. Maybe The Hand. Possibly The Swarm. Gotta go to the liquor store first.

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Jericho
03-21-2013, 02:26 AM
$$$$$$$$$

Dino Velvet
03-21-2013, 02:33 AM
$$$$$$$$$

You mean he chose money over art? Egad!

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/dailymusto/600full-dressed-to-kill-screenshot.jpg

http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article674617.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/image-8-for-michael-caine-gallery-463785112.jpg

stallion79
03-21-2013, 03:03 AM
I guess for the same reason he was in either Jaws 3 or Jaws 4. The script probably moved him... to a bigger house!

broncofan
03-21-2013, 03:18 AM
I guess for the same reason he was in either Jaws 3 or Jaws 4. The script probably moved him... to a bigger house!
:D Good one.

I like Michael Caine. In his mild defense, if actors only did good movies, they'd starve; particularly given how scarce good movies are these days.

Dino Velvet
03-21-2013, 03:34 AM
Michael Caine is like Charles Bronson to me in a way. Other than Harry Brown being Death Wish-ish I find Michael Caine's bad performances worth rewatching as much as his better ones.

I was trying to find the bit he did with Conan O'Brien. Secrets...

Howard Stern used to play audio clips of Michael Caine giving tips to younger actors from some tape he was trying to sell. Always made me go bonkers with laughter.

Dino Velvet
03-21-2013, 03:36 AM
I guess for the same reason he was in either Jaws 3 or Jaws 4. The script probably moved him... to a bigger house!

Which one did he play the actual shark in?

Bigshot88
03-21-2013, 04:14 AM
DINO, i know you to be a man of both substance and style, but this can only be seen as a mouthjerk to the british folk who believe that the message ended with "revenge doesn't work". I love stallone's version, which is, "sure it does". And let's not fucking kid ourselves... it does.

robertlouis
03-21-2013, 05:03 AM
The original Get Carter is a British classic. Caine has never been better in anything, and it captures that bleak early-70s period perfectly.

Stallone's version, like so many US remakes of films from other countries, was both egregious and unnecessary.

Dino Velvet
03-21-2013, 05:09 AM
Stallone's version, like so many US remakes of films from other countries, was both egregious and unnecessary.

Absolutely. Is lil' pipsqueak Spike Lee still planning on ruining Oldboy? It'd be a film about bitterness more than vengeance. Did Koreans chase him through the street when he was a kid too?

Helvis2012
03-21-2013, 05:37 AM
cash money

robertlouis
03-21-2013, 06:59 AM
Absolutely. Is lil' pipsqueak Spike Lee still planning on ruining Oldboy? It'd be a film about bitterness more than vengeance. Did Koreans chase him through the street when he was a kid too?

I'd agree that the attempts to remake Japanese and Korean horror are amongst the worst. Hollywood simply can't, or chooses not to - a greater crime - to understand baleful, motiveless evil for its own sake. That's why
M R James was the best ghost story writer of them all - don't explain, just tell the tale and freeze the soul.

And as for the Stieg Larsson remake or even worse the remake of Let The Right One In, just what exactly is the point? Drives me mad.

flabbybody
03-21-2013, 07:01 AM
Robert De Niro, Dustin Hoffman.... Meet The Fockers. WTF were those guys thinking?

robertlouis
03-21-2013, 07:09 AM
Robert De Niro, Dustin Hoffman.... Meet The Fockers. WTF were those guys thinking?

Big bucks for telephoning in their performances, perhaps?

But I'll see your Meet the Fockers and raise you an Ishtar.....

timxxx
03-21-2013, 07:25 AM
Well know cash whore,meet his price($1 mill,at one time) he will be in anything.

Prospero
03-21-2013, 09:08 AM
Michael has never let his convictions (abandoned long ago) get in the way of participating in criminally bad movies. For every good one he has made there have been six bad ones. Did anyone for instance see the quite unspeakable remake of "Sleuth" with Jude Law.

Females+Shemales
03-21-2013, 04:15 PM
Get Carter remake > Get Carter


Yeah, that's right. I said it!



Robert De Niro, Dustin Hoffman.... Meet The Fockers. WTF were those guys thinking?

De Niro hasn't made a good movie in 13 years.

Bigshot88
03-21-2013, 07:24 PM
All jokes aside, it was never intended to be like the british original. Stallone's version is kinetic, stylized, sometimes humorous escapist entertainment. I admire the aesthetics and the rythm of it, and Mickey Rourke and Sly playing off each other works like gangbusters. There's nothing lazy, cheap, or half-assed about it, it catches heat for not making buku bucks and for being a remake of a british classic. The loudest critics of it never watched it.

Stavros
03-21-2013, 10:38 PM
Caine's commentary on the dvd of Get Carter is almost as good as the film itself, particularly his revealing comments about other members of the cast (eg Ian Hendry's drink problem).

Oldboy being remade by Spike Lee? NO! No! and again NO!

Have there been ANY remakes of classics that were even close to watchable? How many times was Ben-Hur filmed to no purpose?

Maybe Spike Lee should do a remake of Cleopatra?
Tarantino a remake of Easy Rider?
How about this Steven Spielberg to remake Gone with the Wind...

flabbybody
03-21-2013, 11:21 PM
anyone see Blame it on Rio with a teenaged Demi Moore? about sexcrazed middle aged guys from New York (Joe Bologna and Michael) with 2 hot young daughters. It showcased the comic side of Caine which borders on genius. There were a few moments that had me tearing with laughter. critics hated it. one of them actually said it was pornographic.
guess I'm trying to say that even MC's 'bad' movies can be glorious fun.

broncofan
03-23-2013, 12:06 AM
Have there been ANY remakes of classics that were even close to watchable?
I think this is a great point. If the original was even a good movie there's really no point in a remake. Even if parts could be made better, other parts might be made worse or would be so similar that it's a pointless exercise. I did not see Get Carter with Stallone because I saw the original. I did not see the American Girl With the Dragon Tattoo because I saw the original. Unfortunately, I saw the remake of the Vanishing before the original. Almost as a rule I won't watch remakes if I liked the original.

Watching Spielberg remake anything that requires subtlety would be painful. As for Spike Lee, I don't really understand how he plans to take Oldboy outside its cultural context. I'm assuming he plans to somehow make this an American story, right? I think that would be a patently stupid idea. It reminds me of when I heard a director say in an interview that he wanted to remake Henry V from a more objective standpoint because he thought the story only gave airing to the English perspective. Art is not supposed to be objective, and a Korean story about a character exacting a gruesome revenge because someone shamed him can't just be translated to English with American actors without completely polluting the story's significance. I think it's a bad idea but I've been wrong more than once.

jennylicious
03-23-2013, 12:19 AM
It's because he came from a poor family, and has an old fashioned work ethic. It's not so much he is greedy, so much as he feels the need to work.

To quote him:
“First of all, I choose the great roles, and if none of these come, I choose the mediocre ones, and if they don’t come, I choose the ones that pay the rent.”

Dino Velvet
03-23-2013, 01:10 AM
To quote him:
“First of all, I choose the great roles, and if none of these come, I choose the mediocre ones, and if they don’t come, I choose the ones that pay the rent.”

You know I can respect this kind of blatant honesty. What's Nic Cage's excuse?

Nicolas Cage watches The Wicker Man - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QqgIzlmdBc)

Ben
03-23-2013, 03:04 AM
Michael Caine was quite funny in Blame it on Rio.... Not a great flick. But entertaining nonetheless.

Stavros
03-23-2013, 01:00 PM
I think this is a great point. If the original was even a good movie there's really no point in a remake. Even if parts could be made better, other parts might be made worse or would be so similar that it's a pointless exercise. I did not see Get Carter with Stallone because I saw the original. I did not see the American Girl With the Dragon Tattoo because I saw the original. Unfortunately, I saw the remake of the Vanishing before the original. Almost as a rule I won't watch remakes if I liked the original.

Watching Spielberg remake anything that requires subtlety would be painful. As for Spike Lee, I don't really understand how he plans to take Oldboy outside its cultural context. I'm assuming he plans to somehow make this an American story, right? I think that would be a patently stupid idea. It reminds me of when I heard a director say in an interview that he wanted to remake Henry V from a more objective standpoint because he thought the story only gave airing to the English perspective. Art is not supposed to be objective, and a Korean story about a character exacting a gruesome revenge because someone shamed him can't just be translated to English with American actors without completely polluting the story's significance. I think it's a bad idea but I've been wrong more than once.

Spike Lee's film comes out in October according to imdb
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1321511/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2

Michael Mann was supposed to be making a film of Bernard Cornwell's book on Agincourt, not sure what happened to that. Some French historians and others have considered Agincourt an example of English butchery; there is one French novel on this theme by Pierre Naudin, Le Bourbier d'Azincourt published in 2006.

Prospero
03-23-2013, 01:14 PM
I love that quotation posted by jennylicious. One of the things about Caine though is that he is always Michael Caine first. Perhaps a created persona but a dominant one. if you enjoy Caine as himself then you'll probably enjoy almost all of his films - from Zulu to Little Voice to Alfie and the rest.

Prospero
03-23-2013, 01:17 PM
Of course remakes do sometimes work better than the original - and they then usually eclipse it. (I know there are examples but cannot recall them here) But remakes of already great films? That is a move almost always motivated entirely by the desire to make big bucks - never for artistic purposes.

riccadevia
03-23-2013, 04:37 PM
Terminator II, Evil Dead: Dead by Dawn, & Aliens comes to mind...and though I predominately love Michael Caine I thought he did a terrible job as 'Alfred' in the Batman trilogy. Turned Alfred from a sarcastic, accepting of who Batman is, certainly masculine in his courage type, into a sniveling, crying, "I just want you to be happy" pantywaist (and that comes from someone who adores pantywaists!).