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TSPornFan
03-17-2013, 04:16 PM
This thread is not about hardcore vs solo. We're not arguing which one is better or more wanted.

Do you think there is a lack of TS hardcore scenes? Shemalepornstar, Trannypros, TS Pussy Hunters, and TS Seduction are the only TS sites that release a new hardcore scene every week.

I want to see more girls working for different companies. Different directors can bring something new to the table. We're pretty much getting the same stuff because its the same director shooting the same girl. I think it is pretty said when SMC has never shot Celeste and Yasmin Lee. I understand that some girls only work for their sites, and that's cool. However, there are many more girls who are willing to work for different companies.

To make matters worse some companies only shoot certain girls. For example most of Jamie Page's content is on Grooby sites. I asked Tomcat to bring back Jamie Page, and he pretty much said no. Celeste is very popular. However, Celeste's content is only at Grooby and Devil's Film. I asked SMC to shoot Celeste, and SMC said that Celeste is a flake(doesn't come to a scheduled shot). I tried to get SMC to shoot Quinn, but they said she flaked on them too. Brittney Markham built a house at Shemale Strokers.

I can join a straight site at a MUCH lesser price and get plenty of new content every week. I understand that straight porn has a much higher demand than TS porn. However, I shouldn't be paying more and getting much less at TS porn sites. Companies charging $35 bucks for a TS membership isn't very justifiable for one hardcore scene a week. Giving members 2 hardcore scenes a week would be a hell of alot more appealing. $10 bucks at Naughty America will get me 13 scenes PER WEEK.

GroobySteven
03-17-2013, 04:54 PM
http://www.blackshemalehardcore.com - hardcore every week.
http://www.shemale.xxx - at minimum one hardcore every week.
http://www.shemales-from-hell.com - at minimum one hardcore a week.
http://www.shemalejapanhardcore.com - hardcore every week.

We produce between 20-25 hardcore scenes a month across our sites.
Most sites can't sustain the costs of one hardcore a week AS WELL AS other content, it's financially unfeasible. Don't come back with "mainstream this and that", we've tested it, it's a pathetic comparison. It's just un-doable.

Your $35 gets you between 4-5 hardcore scenes or 2-3 hardcore scenes PLUS solos depending on the sites and I think that's very good value for money given the fact on most sites you also get the back catalogue.

lordworm
03-17-2013, 06:08 PM
brazilian-transsexuals also does hardcores every week, except for 1 week out of the month.

But I do think the ratio of the amount of solos to hardcores is definitely in favor of solos. I would love more hardcores.

MrsKellyPierce
03-17-2013, 06:14 PM
Hardcore what's that...I'm a goody, goody...

Isa wont shoot Celeste and Celeste wont shoot for Isa cause of a personal argument..so you wont ever see her on there..

Personally I always find that sad about companies when they pigeon hole a girl..you lose a sale..

I get flakes..but to hold a grudge..

And Kink definitely needs some new girls in it's mix..ones that get hard..

Grooby has a huge variety whether you like them all or not..and they re-schedule even if they don't particularly like the model..Steven knows members like variety obviously.

TSPornFan
03-17-2013, 06:33 PM
http://www.blackshemalehardcore.com - hardcore every week.
http://www.shemale.xxx - at minimum one hardcore every week.
http://www.shemales-from-hell.com - at minimum one hardcore a week.
http://www.shemalejapanhardcore.com - hardcore every week.

We produce between 20-25 hardcore scenes a month across our sites.
Most sites can't sustain the costs of one hardcore a week AS WELL AS other content, it's financially unfeasible. Don't come back with "mainstream this and that", we've tested it, it's a pathetic comparison. It's just un-doable.

Your $35 gets you between 4-5 hardcore scenes or 2-3 hardcore scenes PLUS solos depending on the sites and I think that's very good value for money given the fact on most sites you also get the back catalogue.

There are a few problems with your post. I've been a member of Black Shemale Hardcore and Shemale XXX. I know for a fact that there are weeks when Shemale XXX does not have a hardcore update.

Secondly Black Shemale Hardcore is debatable. The site only updates with exclusive hardcore scenes every two weeks. The other two weeks feature old scenes from Black TGirls.

However, I do agree with you about Shemale XXX is a good value because of the many solo sites.

In my opinion the TS industry as a whole is lacking hardcore scenes.

TSPornFan
03-17-2013, 06:38 PM
Hardcore what's that...I'm a goody, goody...

Isa wont shoot Celeste and Celeste wont shoot for Isa cause of a personal argument..so you wont ever see her on there..

Personally I always find that sad about companies when they pigeon hole a girl..you lose a sale..

I get flakes..but to hold a grudge..

And Kink definitely needs some new girls in it's mix..ones that get hard..

Grooby has a huge variety whether you like them all or not..and they re-schedule even if they don't particularly like the model..Steven knows members like variety obviously.

Quoted For The Truth. Grooby has a done a great job in providing variety. No other TS site comes close to Grooby in that regard.

Kink has been so terrible lately. They keep using the same girls. They finally shot a white woman. Morgan Bailey was the first white chick on the site since October. There are so many tops who they don't shoot such as Britney George, Victoria Di Prada, Celeste(she has topped a guy before), Sheba Star(she topped Christian in an old Devil's Film scene), Nody Nadia(Her first top here http://www.trannypros.com/en/Transsexual-Cheerleaders-12/scene/49935).

GroobySteven
03-17-2013, 07:09 PM
I know for a fact that there are weeks when Shemale XXX does not have a hardcore update.

"You know for a fact" ? Seriously, are you sure. Go and rejoin, show me the week that we haven't had a hardcore and I'll refund you double your money. In fact in the last 52 weeks, we've shown 81 hardcores on that site giving an average of 1.55 hardcores a week.



Secondly Black Shemale Hardcore is debatable. The site only updates with exclusive hardcore scenes every two weeks. The other two weeks feature old scenes from Black TGirls.
There is nothing debatable. Members of BlackShemaleHardcore get a weekly update of hardcore, at the least, (if we've had hardcore black material on Shemale.XXX or ShemalePornstar that will end up there also). The content that is shown from BlackTgirls is under 8 weeks old. It's designed for those who don't want solo content.

However, I do agree with you about Shemale XXX is a good value because of the many solo sites.

In my opinion the TS industry as a whole is lacking hardcore scenes.[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure what you mean "many solo sites". The TS industry supports as many scenes as it can affords. The sooner you realize this is a business, ran by business people and that we cannot shoot more than the budget, and the budget is determined by the people buying and that there is only ever going to be a limited pool of potential members, the better for you.

lordworm
03-17-2013, 07:16 PM
shemales-from-hell.com is 35 bucks and has been updating 2 hardcores every Saturday. 1 usually tg topping a guy and the other is usually a guy topping a tg, sometimes it's a switch scene. But always 2 hardcores a week.

I personally prefer brazilian-transsexuials.com for the tg on tg stuff. The rarity and scarcity of that one particularly makes it worth the cash to me, even if it was more than 35 bucks.

GroobySteven
03-17-2013, 07:18 PM
shemales-from-hell.com is 35 bucks and has been updating 2 hardcores every Saturday. 1 usually tg topping a guy and the other is usually a guy topping a tg, sometimes it's a switch scene. But always 2 hardcores a week.

I personally prefer brazilian-transsexuials.com for the tg on tg stuff. The rarity and scarcity of that one particularly makes it worth the cash to me, even if it was more than 35 bucks.

I'll pass those points onto Damazo thanks.

MrsKellyPierce
03-17-2013, 07:42 PM
If I was a content producer I'd shoot any girl with a fan base whether I liked her or not.

Especially if members request girls..why ignore their request?

I don't get it or delete their comments..

lordworm
03-17-2013, 08:34 PM
If I was a content producer I'd shoot any girl with a fan base whether I liked her or not.

Especially if members request girls..why ignore their request?

I don't get it or delete their comments..

You know thats why I love the brazilian sites so much. Louie Damazo works very hard to satisfy member requests.

RallyCola
03-17-2013, 11:00 PM
The fact remains, as steven pointed out, that sites are a business and producers must do whatever is profitable for them. Franklin is one fan that wants change but doesn't really understand what drives the industry. Again, he points out how he made requests and again I say, the requests of one paying member isn't going to sway a producer away from the cold hard facts. Each producer can look at their downloads and see what is favored content over others. Each producer can monitor chatter on various sites to determine trends. The opinion of one member can't change the reality of who is profitable nor can it change the attitudes of the producers and performers when it comes to working with each other.

It is threads like this that continually point out to me how much Franklin doesn't know about the industry even through he thinks he is an expert.

GroobySteven
03-17-2013, 11:05 PM
If I was a content producer I'd shoot any girl with a fan base whether I liked her or not.

Especially if members request girls..why ignore their request?

I don't get it or delete their comments..

Tell you what - when you start producing and a girl consistently either doesn't show or is always late then you might change your mind. Or when a model you've worked with a number of times, then goes and promotes the shit out of the competition without giving your product a nudge up, you might change your mind. Or when a model is just simply so irritatingly annoying that no photographer can stand being with her for more than 20 mins, then you may change your mind.

No one model is bigger than the industry. We (and other producers) are much more likely to give ongoing work to a model who as well as bringing back the budget set for her, also is easy to work with, turns up on time, says good things about us on social media or to others and is generally professional. If you were still shooting for other sites, you would have been asked back a number of times for us because you fulfill all those criteria.

EvaCassini
03-17-2013, 11:23 PM
Coming Soon! ...Very Soon! Eva Cassini getting "bangaranged" by the one and only Smith!

Looking forward very much for this update on Grooby's great and brilliant SHEMALE.XXX!

P.S. His balls taste like Cherries!!! :salad

GroobySteven
03-17-2013, 11:23 PM
His balls taste like ass????

EvaCassini
03-17-2013, 11:27 PM
HAHAHA....there's no "cherry or ball licking" emoticon teehee, had to use what I could work with :p .... balls are close to the butt...lol

EvaCassini
03-17-2013, 11:29 PM
i fixed it lol....somehow the word "cherries" got deleted in the proofreading phase of my postings lol

GroobySteven
03-17-2013, 11:31 PM
i fixed it lol....somehow the word "cherries" got deleted in the proofreading phase of my postings lol

I bet his head smells like ass.

RallyCola
03-17-2013, 11:35 PM
rim enough girls and the smell of ass is hard to wash off

EvaCassini
03-17-2013, 11:38 PM
nope, Cherries too.....turned out we couldn't figure out why his balls tasted like cherries till the end of the shoot. Then we realized the Anal-Ez is cherry flavored lol.....So in essence, his "head" tasted like beautiful silky cherries from my ass! ;) hehehe

RallyCola
03-18-2013, 12:49 AM
is smith the new christian? while historically christian has appeared more...nowadays, they seem to appear with almost the same frequency.

Dino Velvet
03-18-2013, 12:59 AM
is smith the new christian? while historically christian has appeared more...nowadays, they seem to appear with almost the same frequency.

Smith is to Christian what Harvey Keitel used to be to Robert DeNiro. If Bobby D is playing around with black hookers Harvey will answer on the second ring because he's a Marine.

http://www.empireonline.com/images/uploaded/mean-streets.jpg

http://yerrus.courseapied.net/photos/5228-13%20scorsese%20keitel%20de%20niro.jpg

TSPornFan
03-18-2013, 04:21 AM
"You know for a fact" ? Seriously, are you sure. Go and rejoin, show me the week that we haven't had a hardcore and I'll refund you double your money. In fact in the last 52 weeks, we've shown 81 hardcores on that site giving an average of 1.55 hardcores a week.

However, I do agree with you about Shemale XXX is a good value because of the many solo sites.

In my opinion the TS industry as a whole is lacking hardcore scenes.
I'm not sure what you mean "many solo sites". The TS industry supports as many scenes as it can affords. The sooner you realize this is a business, ran by business people and that we cannot shoot more than the budget, and the budget is determined by the people buying and that there is only ever going to be a limited pool of potential members, the better for you.[/QUOTE]

Sorry about that. I was thinking about Shemale Yum not updating with a hardcore every week. Although I understand that is mostly a solo site. My mistake.

I understand this is a business. However, I disagree with some of the TS industry's business tactics. TS porn is the ONLY industry that goes out of its way to not film American women and go to South America. I've heard companies do this to save money. Straight porn doesn't go to South America to save money.

One company bothers me the most is Shemale Strokers. It has an occasional hardcore scene. My main problem with that site is that they will book a girl in many solo scenes, and not shot one hardcore scene. Really? For example Domino Presley has many solo scenes for Shemale Strokers and not one hardcore scene. In my opinion a girl should never have more than 5 solo scenes and not have a single hardcore scene unless she is unwilling to do hardcore content.


The fact remains, as steven pointed out, that sites are a business and producers must do whatever is profitable for them. Franklin is one fan that wants change but doesn't really understand what drives the industry. Again, he points out how he made requests and again I say, the requests of one paying member isn't going to sway a producer away from the cold hard facts. Each producer can look at their downloads and see what is favored content over others. Each producer can monitor chatter on various sites to determine trends. The opinion of one member can't change the reality of who is profitable nor can it change the attitudes of the producers and performers when it comes to working with each other.

It is threads like this that continually point out to me how much Franklin doesn't know about the industry even through he thinks he is an expert.

You're not too bright. A producer doesn't need stats from their site. I am sure producers look at the competitions' sites to find new and profitable talent. SMC knows for a fact that Celeste is one of the most popular TS women in the business. She would bring in more members and retain current members. A person with common sense would realize this. It isn't hard to notice who is popular and who is not.

Tomcat stopped booking Jesse for over a year. We know how popular she is. Many members were very upset and Tomcat didn't care. Tomcat said he wanted to bring in new talent. Bringing in new talent is cool. However, not booking a popular star over a year isn't going to fly. Especially when you are overbooking Yasmin Lee every month.

Not everyone is going to see eye to eye. Sometimes people who dislike each other will do business together because both parties will earn money.

EvaCassini
03-18-2013, 06:47 AM
I am full willing to do more HARDCORE scenes for any Grooby site! Just let me know and I'll make it there! :) Book me with guys, tgirls and gg's, the whole lot of them! :) :kiss:

It's my prerogative to make sure Grooby has top quality hardcores and a lot of them! Thank you. XOXOXO...XXX teehee. :banana:

GroobySteven
03-18-2013, 12:52 PM
Sorry about that. I was thinking about Shemale Yum not updating with a hardcore every week. Although I understand that is mostly a solo site. My mistake.

I understand this is a business. However, I disagree with some of the TS industry's business tactics. TS porn is the ONLY industry that goes out of its way to not film American women and go to South America. I've heard companies do this to save money. Straight porn doesn't go to South America to save money.

One company bothers me the most is Shemale Strokers. It has an occasional hardcore scene. My main problem with that site is that they will book a girl in many solo scenes, and not shot one hardcore scene. Really? For example Domino Presley has many solo scenes for Shemale Strokers and not one hardcore scene. In my opinion a girl should never have more than 5 solo scenes and not have a single hardcore scene unless she is unwilling to do hardcore content.


Yes Shemale Yum's every two weeks with a N.AMERICAN hardcore.
Shemale Stroker's not shooting much hardcore? I think the evidence is in the name, isn't it mainly a site for shemale's stroking?

It's not only the model price why TS companies get S.American content (or Thai) it's the fact that there are local producers in those countries willing to work for the right price AND have the ability to get those models. For every photographer who ends up becoming a regular shooter for us in the US, there are 15-20 who apply. Many aren't followed through on because they are in an area where we have shooters already but of those that do get the chance to shoot, most never deliver as they're unable to find the models and work out a shoot with them. Our three most recent US shooters were into the clubs/lifestyle before coming to work with us.


What a Brazilian content producer will do (and there aren't many left as far less is being bought) is hire a location and shuttle models out to it over days. He will sell some of the content to one company, and some to others so he's maximizing the amount he can get for the money. At the end of the day, for the company, it's scale of economics and if they can show 4 cheaper pieces of content and then one more expensive shoot and maintain say, 60% of their membership level compared to when they used to show 4-5 expensive shoots a week, then they're doing better off. I think we've seen this happen with more than one of the bigger players. For Grooby, our business works by having producers in Brazil/Thailand that work exclusively for us and therefore hopefully, end up with less of a generic product.

TSPornFan
03-18-2013, 03:52 PM
Yes Shemale Yum's every two weeks with a N.AMERICAN hardcore.
Shemale Stroker's not shooting much hardcore? I think the evidence is in the name, isn't it mainly a site for shemale's stroking?

It's not only the model price why TS companies get S.American content (or Thai) it's the fact that there are local producers in those countries willing to work for the right price AND have the ability to get those models. For every photographer who ends up becoming a regular shooter for us in the US, there are 15-20 who apply. Many aren't followed through on because they are in an area where we have shooters already but of those that do get the chance to shoot, most never deliver as they're unable to find the models and work out a shoot with them. Our three most recent US shooters were into the clubs/lifestyle before coming to work with us.


What a Brazilian content producer will do (and there aren't many left as far less is being bought) is hire a location and shuttle models out to it over days. He will sell some of the content to one company, and some to others so he's maximizing the amount he can get for the money. At the end of the day, for the company, it's scale of economics and if they can show 4 cheaper pieces of content and then one more expensive shoot and maintain say, 60% of their membership level compared to when they used to show 4-5 expensive shoots a week, then they're doing better off. I think we've seen this happen with more than one of the bigger players. For Grooby, our business works by having producers in Brazil/Thailand that work exclusively for us and therefore hopefully, end up with less of a generic product.

My problem with this Brazil/Thaialnd issue is that there is more Brazil content than American content. Straight porn shoots Euro porn. However, it doesn't outnumber the total amount of American porn.

There are some companies like Reality Kings and Porn.com that will shoot Americans in straight porn, but won't shot Americans for TS porn. In my opinion that's just wrong. I think more American TS women should speak up about it. Why won't these companies book them? They are willing to pay more expensive genetic women for straight porn. Yet, they won't pay an American TS woman for TS porn. American TS women do not earn as much as genetic women.

I remember Isa from SMC telling me that she prefers shooting in Brazil because American girls cost more. In my opinion that is a terrible thing to say. You'll never heard this from anybody in straight porn. No straight producer will say "Brazilian girls are cheaper so let's go to Brazil". The American women in the straight porn industry isn't going to let that slide past them. They would be losing money because straight companies would be mostly booking cheaper talent.

I know you have a ladyboyXXX and a BrazilXXX site. Will you be making an American XXX site?

TSPornFan
03-18-2013, 03:54 PM
I am full willing to do more HARDCORE scenes for any Grooby site! Just let me know and I'll make it there! :) Book me with guys, tgirls and gg's, the whole lot of them! :) :kiss:

It's my prerogative to make sure Grooby has top quality hardcores and a lot of them! Thank you. XOXOXO...XXX teehee. :banana:

Would you do an interracial scene?

GroobySteven
03-18-2013, 04:53 PM
My problem with this Brazil/Thaialnd issue is that there is more Brazil content than American content. Straight porn shoots Euro porn. However, it doesn't outnumber the total amount of American porn.

There are some companies like Reality Kings and Porn.com that will shoot Americans in straight porn, but won't shot Americans for TS porn. In my opinion that's just wrong. I think more American TS women should speak up about it. Why won't these companies book them? They are willing to pay more expensive genetic women for straight porn. Yet, they won't pay an American TS woman for TS porn. American TS women do not earn as much as genetic women.

I remember Isa from SMC telling me that she prefers shooting in Brazil because American girls cost more. In my opinion that is a terrible thing to say. You'll never heard this from anybody in straight porn. No straight producer will say "Brazilian girls are cheaper so let's go to Brazil". The American women in the straight porn industry isn't going to let that slide past them. They would be losing money because straight companies would be mostly booking cheaper talent.

I know you have a ladyboyXXX and a BrazilXXX site. Will you be making an American XXX site?

You're still missing the point. Where would you go to book US models? There is no central booking agency and if there was, it probably wouldn't work. You consistently think the TS market and money available is bigger than it is. RK and similar sites have to go find their content and for that they'd need to find US shooters, willing to go out and find the models. They then need to promote those new sites (which can't be done as easily as it used to be).
So instead of a new US based site costing $50k+ they can launch a non-US one for $20k (or two sites!). These numbers aren't accurate, they're just representative.
A program owner has an obligation to themselves, their company and their staff. You're seriously naive to think mainstream or niche companies wouldn't go abroad to shoot non-US content, if they believed they could save money or increase the revenue. What do you mean, US girls wouldn't stand for it? That's just again, incredibly naive, some girls might complain but then just move onto the next models, there is a never ending stream of new talent.

Again, another "Franklin Fact" I need to pick you up on. TS models get paid MORE than GG models in general in the US. More per scene. Sure quote a few stars back to me (although unless you have their tax returns, anything you have on their income could be hyperbole) but in general, a model like most of the well known models we know, get paid more than a gender model.

I'd also say if you looked harder you'd find more non-US porn than US porn.

Why can't you grasp the simple economics I've show you time and time again that this market isn't as big as you believe it to be and for many, their revenues are contracting which might be why you see some companies shooting lesser content.

Are to per your question on will I do an American Shemale.XXX site - probably not. We launched Shemale.XXX to be mainly American with some quality shoots from elsewhere and for the last 12 months we've shown 65% N.American or UK models. We also have Shemale Yum, ShemalePornsar and Canadian-Tgirls which are 100% N.American as well as Black-Tgirls which is probably 90% American, so I think we have the US well covered.

lordworm
03-18-2013, 07:28 PM
Wow, TS get paid more than GG in the US? I would have never guessed that judging by some topics I've seen around here. Is it the same in Brazil?

EvaCassini
03-18-2013, 07:29 PM
Would you do an interracial scene?

Hell yeah. :D

I don't see color...I see cock being inserted in my ass! ;)

GroobySteven
03-18-2013, 07:37 PM
Wow, TS get paid more than GG in the US? I would have never guessed that judging by some topics I've seen around here. Is it the same in Brazil?

Generally yes.

lordworm
03-18-2013, 09:38 PM
That explains why there is more tg on gg porn than tg on tg porn. Tough. :(

EvaCassini
03-18-2013, 09:53 PM
Only tg I have been in a scene with was my girlfriend ( Jamie French ) but I really want to branch out to other tgirls, and I would love to be with a gg in a scene. I was so close to be in one with Ava Devine, but our schedules were screwy while we were visiting LA for the Awards.

lordworm
03-18-2013, 11:42 PM
Tg on tg is the best...

Wendy Summers
03-19-2013, 12:00 AM
Generally yes.

To be fair (and maybe this is in part the confusion), OVERALL GGs make more money FROM porn than a comparable TS model.

That's a function of more work opportunities. At the moment I think there's 8 people controlling the purse strings of who hires American TS models. Even the most popular TS models have a limited number of sets per year she can shoot in.

GG's have a greater number of companies which hire them. Even at a lower pay rate, their overall income can and will exceed that of an comparatively popular TS performer.

GroobySteven
03-19-2013, 12:02 AM
To be fair (and maybe this is in part the confusion), OVERALL GGs make more money FROM porn than a comparable TS model.

I disagree, there are FAR more GG's working in porn than TG's. Only agency girls tend to get multiple shoots, many girls are barely seen.

TSPornFan
03-19-2013, 12:55 AM
You're still missing the point. Where would you go to book US models? There is no central booking agency and if there was, it probably wouldn't work.

You couldn't be more wrong.

Things are actually changing. Many producers and directors are now using twitter to contact pornstars. Many girls will post their emails on twitter for companies to contact them.

Look at Kink.com. Most of their sites feature genetic women from booking agencies. However, TS Seduction is a successful site. They have no problems booking and contacting TS pornstars. Don't tell me that Reality Kings would have such a hard time. Reality King is a bigger and more wealthy company.



A program owner has an obligation to themselves, their company and their staff. You're seriously naive to think mainstream or niche companies wouldn't go abroad to shoot non-US content, if they believed they could save money or increase the revenue.

That would not work for many reasons. First and most importantly American girls are in demand. White women are the best selling women in porn. That's why most porn features white women. Companies would be stupid to stop shooting them and go to South America to film most of their content. Many American porn viewers will not watch a non-white woman. That's a fact. Straight Companies would go out of business for making such a terrible business move.

TS producers and directors say that TS porn targets straight men. Yet, their porn doesn't truly display that. The majority of straight men mostly or only want to watch white women. The majority of TS porn doesn't feature white women. So maybe the TS porn industry is not making as much money as they could if they would shoot more white women.


I disagree, there are FAR more GG's working in porn than TG's. Only agency girls tend to get multiple shoots, many girls are barely seen.

This is so not true. There are many popular girls without an agency would do just fine. This only works once a girl is very popular. Lezley Zen, Nikki Benz(after she left penthouse), Eve Laurence, Lisa Ann, Jenna Presley, and Madison Ivy.

GroobySteven
03-19-2013, 01:26 AM
It's like talking to a fucking turnip.

Ok, Franklin. You are right, you know far more about what's going on in the industry than I do. Why don't you use that soup in your brain, to go and get a loan and show everyone how it's done.

BigPapi2012
03-19-2013, 01:56 AM
Speaking as a consumer I personally like sites like reality kings that show more Brazilian content than American content in their TS section. No offense to American TG's out there but when RealityKings TS section was only American TG's when they first started the girls weren't very attractive. Some were but in my opinion most weren't. When they switched to Brazilian TG's there was, in my opinion a huge difference in attractiveness. I hardly ever went to that section until they switched to Brazilians. The girls were just amazing. Breast implants and nice asses and about 99% of them were extremely passable and they seem to never run out of hot ones. Also add to the fact that Yago was the main guy with all these girls and I don't think he has ever been a bottom with a TG. He is always a top and never gives head which helps most straight men rationalize being straight but watching TG porn. I think most guys watching TG scenes (and I can only really speak for myself) are straight and don't want to see a guy sucking the dick of a TG. For example when I watch TG scenes, I skip the parts where the guy might be sucking off a TG or getting fucked by a TG. I honestly think most guys think like me. Sure you have guys who feel the opposite but I don't think they are the majority of the consumers.

PS. I meant no disrespect. I think there are some amazing American (not Brazilian) TG. Jane Marie, Kim Bella, Kimber James, Foxxy, Mia Isabella, Hannah Sweeden etc. but like someone said a lot of them shoot their own content.

Molly D'Vyne
03-19-2013, 02:00 AM
I'm a switch, a versatile bitch.

I'll happily fuck or get fucked by girls, guys, t-girls, t-guys, androgynes, and any type between the lines! :D

And porn-economics is an intriguing topic. I had no clue at all how the industry worked until I got into it myself, and it's an understanding that is rapidly evolving. I really appreciate the analysis and behind-the-scenes info that seanchai brings to the table.

TSPornFan
03-19-2013, 04:33 AM
Speaking as a consumer I personally like sites like reality kings that show more Brazilian content than American content in their TS section. No offense to American TG's out there but when RealityKings TS section was only American TG's when they first started the girls weren't very attractive. Some were but in my opinion most weren't. When they switched to Brazilian TG's there was, in my opinion a huge difference in attractiveness. I hardly ever went to that section until they switched to Brazilians. The girls were just amazing. Breast implants and nice asses and about 99% of them were extremely passable and they seem to never run out of hot ones. Also add to the fact that Yago was the main guy with all these girls and I don't think he has ever been a bottom with a TG. He is always a top and never gives head which helps most straight men rationalize being straight but watching TG porn. I think most guys watching TG scenes (and I can only really speak for myself) are straight and don't want to see a guy sucking the dick of a TG. For example when I watch TG scenes, I skip the parts where the guy might be sucking off a TG or getting fucked by a TG. I honestly think most guys think like me. Sure you have guys who feel the opposite but I don't think they are the majority of the consumers.

PS. I meant no disrespect. I think there are some amazing American (not Brazilian) TG. Jane Marie, Kim Bella, Kimber James, Foxxy, Mia Isabella, Hannah Sweeden etc. but like someone said a lot of them shoot their own content.

Most of the girls you listed are willing to work with other companies.Mia Isabella, Foxxxy, Jane Marie, and Kim Bella work for many companies. Other girls like Nody Nadia, Joanna Jet, Liberty Harkness, Celeste, Natassia Dreams, Jesse Flores, etc all are willing to work for many companies. Kimber James is just an exception.

Do you think the Reality Kings site would had improved if they shot attractive Americans? To be fair they've never shot any top American girls when they short Americans for a brief period of time.

BigPapi2012
03-19-2013, 05:11 AM
Do you think the Reality Kings site would had improved if they shot attractive Americans? To be fair they've never shot any top American girls when they short Americans for a brief period of time.

Yes I think they would have. The Americans they shot in the beginning were no where near as attractive as the Brazilians that they shot. Like I said, about 99% of the Brazilian girls they shot were beyond passable. A lot of the American girls they shot looked like cross dressers in the beginning stages of transition.

Realityking Brazilians
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/attachment.php?attachmentid=402839&stc=1&d=1308700069
http://t03.*************/images/2012-07/dc/5015d8dc59849/5015d8dc59849-full-14.jpg

Reality Kings Americans
http://imagesr.rk.com/content/trannysurprise/pictures/long_clit/summer-004.jpg?nvb=20130319025529&nva=20130319030529&hash=0f7818aaa59c159d79558
http://imagesr.rk.com/content/trannysurprise/pictures/le_fuck/sabrina-003.jpg?nvb=20130319025620&nva=20130319030620&hash=0d6f920b2b9d38fb08069

It's not even close. Now Are there some not so hot Brazialian TG's on the site? Yes. Are there some Very hot American TG's on the site? Of course. But I honestly believe that the Brazilian consistency forced them to just keep shooting there.

And I read somewhere that you said White women are the most in demand in porn which is correct but that doesn't necessarily translate to TG porn.