The reason I never do bare-back sex and why certs mean fuck all!

[tvkim]

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/hiv-levels-among-gay-men-unchanged-034054564.html#HggUHez

http://www.buzzle.com/articles/hiv-window-period.html

http://www.bilerico.com/2010/04/is_bareback_porn_killing_our_community.php


Just wear a fucking condom and STOP the spread of HIV!!

[Nikka]

Christianxxx agrees

[Merkurie]

Seeing someone wearing a condom in porn is no big deal to me. I never got why some insist on bare-back anal sex.

But I lived through the 80s and I don't need any reminder of what full blown AIDS does to a person. It is a horrible way to die.

[Donkey]

I always wear a condom but it's damn hard to find one that fits. Even the XXL cuts into my base. Makes sex very painful sometimes. :(

[tvkim]

I always wear a condom but it's damn hard to find one that fits. Even the XXL cuts into my base. Makes sex very painful sometimes. :(

You can get extra large ones here:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10-x-Skins-EXTRA-LARGE-Condoms-/200578375039?pt=UK_Health_HealthCare_RL&hash=item2eb3671d7f

By the way.... do you fancy a meet!

[bat1]

a dildo works for me ..safe and does the job!

[Yeah]

Fisting is also a safe way to go also.

[wiltthestilt]

Seeing someone wearing a condom in porn is no big deal to me. I never got why some insist on bare-back anal sex.

But I lived through the 80s and I don't need any reminder of what full blown AIDS does to a person. It is a horrible way to die.

I agree with you. Im probably one of the few porn fans that prefers to see condoms. Maybe its because Im slightly traumatized from all the HIV coverage in the 80's when I was a kid. Condoms just strike me as common sense in sex work; and contrary to popular belief it actually does affect other people if you (or anyone) gets HIV. HIV carriers not only spread HIV (assuming they continue engaging in unsafe practices) but their bodies serve as resevoirs for other opportunistic infections that are also a health risk to the public.

Its a shame anyone still gets HIV when its so easy to prevent.

[bzzzay]

The article about the young man who died - Is HIV/AIDS really that prevalent in gay porn? The author made it sound like it was a no brainer that someone working bareback in gay porn would contract the disease.

[garypeters123]

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/hiv-levels-among-gay-men-unchanged-034054564.html#HggUHez

http://www.buzzle.com/articles/hiv-window-period.html

http://www.bilerico.com/2010/04/is_bareback_porn_killing_our_community.php


Just wear a fucking condom and STOP the spread of HIV!!

What about blowjobs, from the perspective of someone who has sex for a living.

[natina]

I was at the park this morning with my nieces and nephews and I observed many condoms with dark matter on them. I knew it was shit.so somebody got a shitty deal.I realized that at this park the gay papers marked it as a gay cruising spot. I had to tell this gay guy that I have very small kids with me so could he please take those activities somewhere else so that these very Young kids do not see it.
he was angry and stopped for a while but came back and started all over again.I had to call the police when they started in the bathroom with my little boys in there that are barely in there teens.

http://www.cruisinggays.com/los-angeles/areas/1276-griffith-park/

http://www.cruisinggays.com/los-angeles/c/areas/

And the trend is not confined to the United States: researchers in the U.K. and Europe have also noted the increase, reported British newspaper The Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/sep/07/young-gay-men-hiv-epidemic) on Sept. 7. "By investigating the genetic profile of the virus in more than 500 newly screened patients over nine years, scientists in Belgium have identified clusters of people with type B virus--not the one that is most prevalent in Africa," The Guardian reported. "Those infected are almost all white, male, gay and young," the article continued.

The researchers noted that, "Members of this cluster are significantly younger than the rest of the population and have more chlamydia and syphilis infections," the article said.


And the trend is not confined to the United States: researchers in the U.K. and Europe have also noted the increase, reported British newspaper The Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/sep/07/young-gay-men-hiv-epidemic) on Sept. 7. "By investigating the genetic profile of the virus in more than 500 newly screened patients over nine years, scientists in Belgium have identified clusters of people with type B virus--not the one that is most prevalent in Africa," The Guardian reported. "Those infected are almost all white, male, gay and young," the article continued.

The researchers noted that, "Members of this cluster are significantly younger than the rest of the population and have more chlamydia and syphilis infections," the article said.


"Those infected are almost all white, male, gay and young," the article continued


The AIDS crisis that ravaged the gay community in cities like New York and San Francisco may be less visible, but it is still raging, health experts earn--and a new wave of HIV infections may be about to crest.

For some time, researchers have noted that despite efforts to promote safer sex, HIV rates are climbing among young gay men. So are rates for other sexually transmitted diseases, such as syphilis; unfortunately, individuals already infected with one STI may be at an elevated risk for contracting others, including HIV.

While some of the blame may rest with younger gays not having access to safer sex messages, a perception among young MSMs (men who have sex with men) that AIDS is no longer a serious health concern may also be driving the increased incidence in HIV. Most serious of all, however, is a tendency toward unsafe sex and other risky behaviors, such as drug use, which affect judgment and may lead to more unsafe sex-and a higher rate of HIV infection.

And the trend is not confined to the United States: researchers in the U.K. and Europe have also noted the increase, reported British newspaper The Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/sep/07/young-gay-men-hiv-epidemic) on Sept. 7. "By investigating the genetic profile of the virus in more than 500 newly screened patients over nine years, scientists in Belgium have identified clusters of people with type B virus--not the one that is most prevalent in Africa," The Guardian reported. "Those infected are almost all white, male, gay and young," the article continued.

The researchers noted that, "Members of this cluster are significantly younger than the rest of the population and have more chlamydia and syphilis infections," the article said.

That is not to say that heterosexuals do not also face the risk of contracting HIV; overall, just under half of the new cases of HIV in Britain were gay men, but straights were also getting infected. One main difference was that while gays seemed to be getting infected without traveling to other countries, heterosexuals--who were picking up a different strain of the virus--seemed to be contracting the virus while abroad, the article said.

"Gay men are still the most at risk of HIV infection in the UK," said Nick Partridge, the head of British AIDS charity the Terrence Higgins Trust. "We also know that more than a quarter of people with HIV in the UK are currently undiagnosed, and they’re far more likely to pass the virus on than those who know they have it."

The Belgian study, which looked at HIV trends in Britain and Europe, was carried out by researchers at Ghent University. But health experts in the United States also cautioned that HIV remains a serious health threat here.

In a Sept. 3 release from New York-based Gay Men’s Health Crisis (GMHC), Dr. Marjorie Hill, the group’s CEO, warned, "A new wave of HIV infections is about to hit New York and we had all better get ready for it," and went on to echo that one major concern is the number of people living with HIV who have not gotten tested, and so don’t know that they have it.

However, Dr. Hill continued, a new state law requiring routine HIV testing is likely to lead to a sharp uptick in reported new cases. "Previously, patients were required to sign a separate written consent form in order to get tested for HIV," explained Dr. Hill. "Now, if you agree to a quick swab test, you will only have to give oral consent.

"When undergoing routine medical procedures or check-ups, you will be offered a standard HIV blood test to sign off on along with the battery of tests that most patients receive. Once you give your consent, it stays in effect for all your future blood tests," Hill added, going on to cite the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention as projecting an estimate that says "100,000 people in New York City alone are currently living with HIV infection, but more than 25,000 of them do not know it."

Added Hill, "Most of these unknowing carriers of HIV feel and look healthy and are, in most respects. But they are missing out on treatments that could prevent them from progressing to AIDS. Plus, they are in danger of transmitting the virus to others, continuing to fuel the epidemic."

One crucial benefit of testing is that the sooner HIV+ individuals know their status, the sooner they can begin taking medication to keep the virus in check. Though there is no cure for HIV, modern treatment regimens can help many HIV+ people keep their viral loads down to undetectable levels, meaning that they have a better chance at a normal life span. But early treatment is the key, a Chicago specialist in HIV/AIDS, Dr. James Sullivan (http://www.edgeboston.com/index.php?ch=news&sc=&sc2=&sc3=&id=109750), said recently.


http://uk.news.yahoo.com/hiv-levels-among-gay-men-unchanged-034054564.html#HggUHez

http://www.buzzle.com/articles/hiv-window-period.html

http://www.bilerico.com/2010/04/is_bareback_porn_killing_our_community.php


Just wear a fucking condom and STOP the spread of HIV!!

[Rusty Eldora]

Before I saw my first Tgirl I did a lot of research into safe sex. Greek is the highest risk of STD followed by vag sex. Being protected for the main event dramatically changes the risks. Oral sex is generally much safer, with handjobs and the like being the safest.

To me, covers are mandatory for the main event. Oral unprotected seems a reasonable risk to me provided things look 'healthy'. Regular testing should still be done.

[runround04]

Before I saw my first Tgirl I did a lot of research into safe sex. Greek is the highest risk of STD followed by vag sex. Being protected for the main event dramatically changes the risks. Oral sex is generally much safer, with handjobs and the like being the safest.

To me, covers are mandatory for the main event. Oral unprotected seems a reasonable risk to me provided things look 'healthy'. Regular testing should still be done.

What does Aids look like on a dick? rofl

[tvkim]

What about blowjobs, from the perspective of someone who has sex for a living.


Its medically obvious that people who have sex for a living or porn producers who make DVD's, photoshoots... always bare-back... that unless they can go without any bareback sex from their 1st HIV test until the next one 12 weeks later, then they simply cannot know they are HIV free.

I cannot see a porn worker who makes their living from fucking Bare-Back abstaining from sex between these times.

[iagodelgado]

12 weeks?

[tvkim]

12 weeks?

Yes... that is the window period where no sexual contact should take place unless with a condom

http://www.buzzle.com/articles/hiv-window-period.html

If that rule is broken then you have to start all over again and wait another 12 weeks

Read this:

Adhering to the window period rules is important in getting accurate results on your tests. One of the biggest misconception is that, if you indulge in a risky behavior today it is better if you get tested tomorrow to check your status. It is a myth that if you come to know that you are HIV positive in the first week of getting infected you can be cured. As of now there are no medications to cure the infection, medications available in the market can only manage the infection.

What happens if you get tested during the window period? Here is an example for better understanding, let us say on December 1st Jenny has unsafe sex with Joe who is infected with HIV. Jenny then goes in for a HIV test on December 10, the results of the test will be negative in spite of Jenny being infected with HIV. This happens because the body does not start producing detectable anti bodies till 12 weeks.

It is crucial to adhere to the window period, if you are thinking about going in for a HIV test. Also remember there are no clear HIV symptoms in the first few months so getting tested after the window period is the only option. Most testing centers will offer the HIV test for free, you can check on the Internet for a center near you and get yourself tested.

[Prospero]

Bareback sex is - in the wider world - a deeply foolish and risky thing.
But surely within the hopefully enclosed community of porn actors all of whom are regularly getting tested bareback is surely reasonably safe. They are only fucking with people like themselves who getting regular medical checks. I suggest this on the basis that all of these people have bareback ONLY with their porn film partners. if they play on the side bareback then the risk is real again.

[tvkim]

Bareback sex is - in the wider world - a deeply foolish and risky thing.
But surely within the hopefully enclosed community of porn actors all of whom are regularly getting tested bareback is surely reasonably safe. They are only fucking with people like themselves who getting regular medical checks. I suggest this on the basis that all of these people have bareback ONLY with their porn film partners. if they play on the side bareback then the risk is real again.


You are missing the whole point!!

Unless a sex worker... (thats someone who has sex to make a living) does NOT have bare back sex for 12 weeks, then the HIV test does not give a conclusive result. Show me a sex worker that does not have bareback sex for 12 weeks?

If someone SAYS they have not had bareback sex in the last 12 weeks, would you believe them? Especially if ALL their photo shoots and video shoots show them ONLY performing Bare Back sex?

[Prospero]

No - not missing the point. If they are a porn star (not a sex worker - ie escort) then they are - in theory - working within a closed community that has, for years, involved people who only have sex with each other. That is the ideal and of course, may be a naive belief.

[tvkim]

No - not missing the point. If they are a porn star (not a sex worker - ie escort) then they are - in theory - working within a closed community that has, for years, involved people who only have sex with each other. That is the ideal and of course, may be a naive belief.


I am talking about Porn Stars... not just escorts. How can a porn star be sure that the porn star they are fucking has not had unsafe sex in the last few days or weeks?

They can't...... unless you followed their every move

No one can be sure

Just wear a Condom and be safe

[wiltthestilt]

The article about the young man who died - Is HIV/AIDS really that prevalent in gay porn? The author made it sound like it was a no brainer that someone working bareback in gay porn would contract the disease.

Ive read some articles and from what Ive seen---yeah. BB + no testing = HIV. Most of the gay studios dont test as far as Ive read. Some of the leading bare back stars are openly positive.

[wiltthestilt]

Bareback sex is - in the wider world - a deeply foolish and risky thing.
But surely within the hopefully enclosed community of porn actors all of whom are regularly getting tested bareback is surely reasonably safe. They are only fucking with people like themselves who getting regular medical checks. I suggest this on the basis that all of these people have bareback ONLY with their porn film partners. if they play on the side bareback then the risk is real again.

But they test only once month right? Couldnt the performer in theory get infected since his or her last test but prior to shooting?

[Prospero]

Well... the point I am trying to make is do these performers have unprotected sex with anyone apart from their fellow porn stars?

if they DO then obviously everyone is at risk. But if not its a closed circle. A bit like a coupe who both go get tested, are clear and so can have sex with each other with no risk.

But as I say I am being idealistic.

[tvkim]

Well... the point I am trying to make is do these performers have unprotected sex with anyone apart from their fellow porn stars?.

You hit the nail on the head there... that is EXACTLY the point I am trying to make. How can porn workers be sure that their fellow workers are having safe sex when they are not working?

Being totally realistic.... they can't ......simple as that!

All I think when I see people having bare back sex on set, is that they are past caring.

I feel sorry for the Mugs that are fucking them, pounding away thinking... it's ok she/he has certs! Bollocks!!!!

[tvkim]

Some of the leading bare back stars are openly positive.

I agree with you there, probably why they continue to do BB scenes.....

Fucking assholes if you ask me.

I wonder if they have actually lost anyone to HIV and seen the terrible death they suffer?