Serious Question for the TS Porn Girls here

[christianxxx]

2 years ago, there was a brand new GG in the biz named Nikki Delano. I thought she was smoking hot, and I was still producing for Naughty America at the time. I shot her 2 different times when she was brand new and put good money in her pocket. She was friendly, and although I would have liked to work with her, for whatever reason I didn't.

She is also a well known escort, and when I had the opportunity, I helped her figure out where she could get some jobs overseas.

Since I have returned to the states, I have repeatedly asked her to shoot content trade for our respective websites. She has given multiple different answers why she couldn't each time. I didn't think much of it, although it was annoying. Then it hit me, that she didn't want to work with me.

So 2 weeks ago, of course we were booked together for a scene in Vegas. The day before....of course she declined to work with me and switched scene partners.

Now, a girl can choose who she wants to work with, this is always true. But I was upset that she never said anything to me, and acted like we were buddies, when in reality she thought I was gross.

How do I know this you ask? Because we got into a short text exchange where she posted this gem and this is verbatim

"you are too childish, when you talk about fucking trannies all the time, you should wonder why girls don't want to work with you"

"I am not going to let a guy who bangs trannies fuck me in the ass, it's as simple as that!"

Again, this is a well known hooker, who has been in the business long enough to know that all TS girls get the exact same health test as GG.

So again, this girl cost me money and a scene bc she didn't want to work with me because I am gross bc I do TS girls. Thats the bottom line.

Fast forward to today.

Jason Ellis has a radio show and his guests today were Nikki Delano and Mia Isabella.

Here is my conversation with Mia -

"when you go on that show - ask Nikki Delano about how she won't work with anyone who has worked with TS girls - her text to me when she canceled a scene "I'm not going to let a guy who bangs trannies fuck me in the ass it's as simple as that""

Mia responds

"that's none of my business"

My response

"so when she pretends to say nice things about you - remember that she thinks you are a diseased and disgusting thing"

Mia responds

"she never even met me and its really silly of you to try to speak negative about someone trying to taint my perception before we've met"

I respond - "did you read what I just wrote?"

Mia responds

I do not care about something someone said to you its none of my business grow up dude seriously

my response - you are dumb as fuck

Mia final response - no one cares lol

So.....my question is this - am I in the wrong here, or should Mia have called Nikki out on her apparent disdain for TS girls. Thoughts?

[loveboof]

Respect to Mia! She handled that well - wanted to make up her own mind and stay away from gossip...

Fair play.

[amberskyi]

She might be worried that it'll mess up her hustle.
I would say something but I'm notorious for being too outspoken

[TSMichelleAustin]

Well, I agree with Mia, because it wasnt her business... but this past year at BBW Fan fest I met a few genetic girls who wont shoot with ts or shoot with guys who shoot with TS. So, I dont think its wrong, its a girls opinion and her body. But one girl told me, I dont want to tarnish my career by being with a ts or being with a guy who fucks TS. Its the whole thing, with this porn world. People have their myths, etc. The few girls I have worked with are awesome and I love shooting with them, but they know we're not bad as most people make us. But I wouldnt get into a battle with a girl I dont know about why she wouldnt shoot with someone.

[christianxxx]

Michelle, you really need to learn how to read.

You don't know? I just told you EXACTLY why - "bc I work with trannies"

I hate to break it to you, but that means YOU specifically (you are a "trannie correct?)

so again, you can have a friendly conversation with someone who thinks you are diseased or gross? seriously? I have problem believing that.

[RyderMonroe]

I wouldn't say she's in the wrong..at the end of the day its her perogative. but you were right to be upset and i wish Mia would have called Nicki out. I know I would have and It speaks volumes about Mia's character and integrity imo.

[christianxxx]

i just find it hard to have a conversation with someone that I know doesn't like me and act like they do. It makes me upset because they think I am too stupid or ignorant to know any better. lol

I realize that this is a part of the entertainment and porn industry, but still....it's strange to me.

[Steve-Oh]

Fuck it, man.
Some Will.
Some Won't.
So What.

Next.

[pariahsan]

America is the land of liars, ego and greed.

Why should show business be any different?

[christianxxx]

Steve-Oh - you are exactly correct. its the losing the cash for the scene that hurts though. lol and imagine that happening every week for about 8 years. it gets.....tiresome

[tsdvdman]

Dude..with all due respect,, You seem to be the man of TS porn..the go to guy. But it seems as though your head is getting way too big. You going through all this because one girl wont work with you? You fuck almost every trannie in the biz..at least the ones doing porn.
If she doesn't want to work with you..it's no different than the general sentiment when a TS doesn't want to fuck a black guy..on film or as a client. It's her choice..you are sounding quite catty. And to engage with Mia like that.Wow..

[TSPornFan]

Anybody remember this thread? http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=73680&highlight=franklin


She doesn't have to work with you. It doesn't matter what her reasons are. Its her body and her choice. Get the over it. There are GG women who will do men who bang T-Girls.

[Jamie French]

I don't have time to worry about what a handful of dumb cunts thinks of me or anyone like me... fact is there are people who are jerks about all kinds of things all over the world forever and always, why waste time thinking about them at all? Don't we have shit to do? Don't know about the rest of you, but I'll be tending to those things instead.

[bluesoul]

its the losing the cash for the scene that hurts though.

are you sure? because if it's just losing the cash part, you could've just said "some girl cost me money" without dragging the whole text dialogue here.

btw: does lisa sparxxx still perform :hide-1:

[jamiethewild]

I have heard from my girlfriends that have made a scene with christian that his cocky, he thinks his the shit, has an attitude when his filming,not friendly and that he has a strong bad smell odor. I don't if this is true but many of my gal friends have told me this. If i had the opportunity to work with christian i would deny him also.

[TSMichelleAustin]

I get ur mad! AND YES I CAN FUCKING READ! If I had a dollar for every homophobic mother fucker out there that thought I was gross or nasty I would be rich! U are barking up the wrong tree, and dont get mad at me... I wouldnt fight ur battle with someone I have no clue who they are! Now if it was someone I knew and she was saying that I would say something to her! I get told every day Im fat, im ugly, etc... this is nothing! The girl doesnt want to work with u, so what, lets move on!!! U asked us girls a question would u say something or be like Mia... I would be like Mia!

[Rusty Eldora]

Yes providers and stars should have full discretion on who they are with. But they also should live by their decisions. Also, one can have grace declining, and also give a heads up to people so shoots are not missed.

We've ended up where to state, say on their websites "I don't see guys under 35", "I don't see Martians", etc. is not cool and she will get a ration of shit. But that is much better than cancelling once he arrives. I understand why someone has preferences, but to not be inclusive is usually their loss.

[giovanni_hotel]

I would be pissed that someone I knew personally and had spent time with couldn't just say flat out I'm not comfortable shooting with you because you bang trannies.

It's not like Christian just met this girl. They were sort of casual friends.
She's not the first bitchy chick you've met I'm sure, and it won't be the last.

Also Christian is exactly 100% right, this girl isn't afraid of catching something from him, she's just thinks it's NASTY he fucks tgirls.
I'm sure this girl has done anal sex scenes before and it's not like he was gonna go BB.

Mia should have stepped up and put that girl on blast. Oh well.

[ew86riv]

did you ever think that maybe she acted buddy buddy with you because she didn't want to be nasty about it? i can be in the wrong, but it seems like you may have forced that answer out of her by talking with her about it. sometimes things are better left unsaid.

[mikejones]

At some point we all run into prejudiced people in one form or another. Nothing unique here. Let it go and move on. I'm sure you've got plenty of fine tranny ass still coming your way!

[jamiethewild]

did you ever think that maybe she acted buddy buddy with you because she didn't want to be nasty about it? i can be in the wrong, but it seems like you may have forced that answer out of her by talking with her about it. sometimes things are better left unsaid.

That's what i was just thinking lol

I think christian needs to get down from his cloud and accept rejection... I mean, if she's been putting excuses over excuses then she's sending a hint. Some guys don't get it.

[christianxxx]

Dude..with all due respect,, You seem to be the man of TS porn..the go to guy. But it seems as though your head is getting way too big. You going through all this because one girl wont work with you? You fuck almost every trannie in the biz..at least the ones doing porn.
If she doesn't want to work with you..it's no different than the general sentiment when a TS doesn't want to fuck a black guy..on film or as a client. It's her choice..you are sounding quite catty. And to engage with Mia like that.Wow..


again, your reading comprehension skills seem to be lacking. where did i say anything about being upset about her not doing the scene and that's why I wrote this post?

I asked

1. do you agree with Mia in that situation or myself.

PS - if you were a black man, and you spent 2 years hanging out with a girl and then all of a sudden you find out that same girl hates black people, you wouldn't say anything about it? get the fuck out of here. lol and I am not even taking money into the equation.

[christianxxx]

I have heard from my girlfriends that have made a scene with christian that his cocky, he thinks his the shit, has an attitude when his filming,not friendly and that he has a strong bad smell odor. I don't if this is true but many of my gal friends have told me this. If i had the opportunity to work with christian i would deny him also.

1. strong bad smell odor? hahahahahaaha - this is my favorite post maybe ever! yes, I smell TERRIBLE! how do people stand to be around me?

2. let's be honest, you won't ever have that opportunity for many reasons.

but thanks for completely ignoring the question of the thread and simply coming in here to attack me personally. Nice work. Dummy

[christianxxx]

I get ur mad! AND YES I CAN FUCKING READ! If I had a dollar for every homophobic mother fucker out there that thought I was gross or nasty I would be rich! U are barking up the wrong tree, and dont get mad at me... I wouldnt fight ur battle with someone I have no clue who they are! Now if it was someone I knew and she was saying that I would say something to her! I get told every day Im fat, im ugly, etc... this is nothing! The girl doesnt want to work with u, so what, lets move on!!! U asked us girls a question would u say something or be like Mia... I would be like Mia!

Michelle, once again, your response is really strange. "you wouldn't fight my battle"? Um, maybe you missed this part of my post...

Nikki Delano won't work with because I WORK WITH TS GIRLS. I FIGHT YOUR BATTLE EVERY DAY IN THE BUSINESS. I am constantly having to defend working with TS girls and that your test is no different than my test or any GG test. How on earth can that fact elude you? Name a single other male performer that works with GG and TS girls and that has gotten all the flak I get every week for the past EIGHT YEARS.

Good lord girl, you gotta smarten up.

[christianxxx]

That's what i was just thinking lol

I think christian needs to get down from his cloud and accept rejection... I mean, if she's been putting excuses over excuses then she's sending a hint. Some guys don't get it.

this is another fantastic piece of "wisdom" from you. Only in your world does the person who is fake and a liar somehow in the right, because I am supposed to "get the hint" rather than that person being normal and stating that they are in fact homophobic. Nice work again. You are 2 for 2 in this thread. WOW

[BluegrassCat]

Nikki's being two-faced and a bigot because she thinks it's good business. Is there way to hire more gg's who are cool and as a side effect punish gg's who aren't?

[jamiethewild]

1. strong bad smell odor? hahahahahaaha - this is my favorite post maybe ever! yes, I smell TERRIBLE! how do people stand to be around me?

2. let's be honest, you won't ever have that opportunity for many reasons.

but thanks for completely ignoring the question of the thread and simply coming in here to attack me personally. Nice work. Dummy


this is another fantastic piece of "wisdom" from you. Only in your world does the person who is fake and a liar somehow in the right, because I am supposed to "get the hint" rather than that person being normal and stating that they are in fact homophobic. Nice work again. You are 2 for 2 in this thread. WOW

WOW, your a sad case in life and a moron dude that thinks his hottest thing around, thats just sad. Christian you are not all that srry to say. You are not as in shape as you used too. Don't get butt hurt if a woman reject you, everyone in this life will get rejected some way, some how.
As far as "odor" and all the things i have heard from my girlfriends, am not saying its true.
It would personally disgust to do a scene with you also, knowing how many bb scenes you have done.
Mia is correct, she acted classy and doesn't want to deal with any homophobic issues, she might have enough of her own life to deal with and to be dealing with yours ??? .
Maybe she's sick and tired of your cocky attitude moron.

[Wendy Summers]

Christian I think you're in the right here, but the reality is most performers in our niche lack the strength of character to engage in such a fight.

Honestly we'd all do better standing together, but many are too busy tearing other performers apart or caught up in their own egos to have any sense of the greater good.

[Remy757Photog]

It sucks that this whole situation happens at all, and I might have asked her about it personally but not during the interview. I would have been a little conflicted not knowing if you were making the whole story up for some reason.

[RallyCola]

WOW...that's all i can say to the responses in this thread.

1...i have no idea what type of relationship Mia and Christian have with each other

2...regardless of how you may feel about christian, this is not about him, this is about Mia and her desire or lack there of to speak up on his behalf, and potentially for the field of tranny porn at large

3...i'm a bit amazed that so many people in this community are lashing out at him.

so...if Mia and Christian are real friends, not just acquaintances through work, I believe that she is in the wrong here for not speaking up on behalf of her friend, her industry and her co-workers at large.

if Mia merely a co-worker looking out for her own brand without any care or regard for her co-workers at large, then i guess her lack of involvement is fair

that is all

[TSPornFan]

I would be pissed that someone I knew personally and had spent time with couldn't just say flat out I'm not comfortable shooting with you because you bang trannies.

It's not like Christian just met this girl. They were sort of casual friends.
She's not the first bitchy chick you've met I'm sure, and it won't be the last.

Also Christian is exactly 100% right, this girl isn't afraid of catching something from him, she's just thinks it's NASTY he fucks tgirls.
I'm sure this girl has done anal sex scenes before and it's not like he was gonna go BB.

Mia should have stepped up and put that girl on blast. Oh well.

It doesn't matter if they were casual friends. That doesn't entitle him to have sex with her on camera. Its her body and HER CHOICE. He does NOT own her.

Something is not right with Christian's story. Most of the time these types of girls do not have sex with male pornstars who do gay or TS porn. However, Nikki Delano does perform on camera with gay pornstars.

Look here! Nexthookups.com is a site that shoots a female pornstar with a bi-sexual male pornstar. All of these guys do gay porn.
http://www.nextdoorhookups.com/en/Nikki-D/pornstar/16824

I believe there is MORE to this story than what Christian is telling.

[RallyCola]

It doesn't matter if they were casual friends. That doesn't entitle him to have sex with her on camera. Its her body and HER CHOICE. He does NOT own her.

Something is not right with Christian's story. Most of the time these types of girls do not have sex with male pornstars who do gay or TS porn. However, Nikki Delano does perform on camera with gay pornstars.

Look here! Nexthookups.com is a site that shoots a female pornstar with a bi-sexual male pornstar. All of these guys do gay porn.
http://www.nextdoorhookups.com/en/Nikki-D/pornstar/16824

I believe there is MORE to this story than what Christian is telling.

yes...there may be more than what we have but that's not the point of the thread. the question isn't really about one girl not wanting to fuck christian....stop making it about that

[TSPornFan]

yes...there may be more than what we have but that's not the point of the thread. the question isn't really about one girl not wanting to fuck christian....stop making it about that

It is about that. He is pissed off again that someone doesn't want to have sex with him. Her problem with him isn't about him fucking T-Girls.

Christian is LYING. Nikki has in FACT had sex on camera with a man who has sex with T-Girls. She has done a scene with Parker London!

Parker London and Sarina Valentina
http://www.kinkondemand.com/kod/shoot/14807-The-Wives-Club-When-you-have-No-One-Else-to-Call.html?c=1

Nikki with Parker London!
http://www.nextdoorhookups.com/en/CRAZY-FUCKER/film/35925

[my my my!]

It's all about Money talks and bullshit walks. As long as people get paid enough they forget about certain stuff...

I would never , ever let a (insert: race,ethnicity,sexual orientation,gender,profession,etc here)friend or acquaintance interact with someone who thought that a (insert: race,ethnicity,sexual orientation,gender,profession,etc here) person were "gross" or beneath them in some sort of way. That's a no-no. I would certainly feel compelled to let them know what's up.

This is not about Nikki not working with Christian, this is about Mia basically not showing solidarity with what Christian said, and some girls here doing the same shit (not all the girls).

It's pathetic really. It's sad that some gg Pornstar basically talks shit about you (being transgendered porn workers) and all you have to say is "it's her right , christian just sounds jaded". I would kick you out of the LBGT pride parades in an instant, hypocrites.



+1 to Christian

[Chase_Mcthirsty]

2 years ago, there was a brand new GG in the biz named Nikki Delano. I thought she was smoking hot, and I was still producing for Naughty America at the time. I shot her 2 different times when she was brand new and put good money in her pocket. She was friendly, and although I would have liked to work with her, for whatever reason I didn't.

She is also a well known escort, and when I had the opportunity, I helped her figure out where she could get some jobs overseas.

Since I have returned to the states, I have repeatedly asked her to shoot content trade for our respective websites. She has given multiple different answers why she couldn't each time. I didn't think much of it, although it was annoying. Then it hit me, that she didn't want to work with me.

So 2 weeks ago, of course we were booked together for a scene in Vegas. The day before....of course she declined to work with me and switched scene partners.

Now, a girl can choose who she wants to work with, this is always true. But I was upset that she never said anything to me, and acted like we were buddies, when in reality she thought I was gross.

How do I know this you ask? Because we got into a short text exchange where she posted this gem and this is verbatim

"you are too childish, when you talk about fucking trannies all the time, you should wonder why girls don't want to work with you"

"I am not going to let a guy who bangs trannies fuck me in the ass, it's as simple as that!"

Again, this is a well known hooker, who has been in the business long enough to know that all TS girls get the exact same health test as GG.

So again, this girl cost me money and a scene bc she didn't want to work with me because I am gross bc I do TS girls. Thats the bottom line.

Fast forward to today.

Jason Ellis has a radio show and his guests today were Nikki Delano and Mia Isabella.

Here is my conversation with Mia -

"when you go on that show - ask Nikki Delano about how she won't work with anyone who has worked with TS girls - her text to me when she canceled a scene "I'm not going to let a guy who bangs trannies fuck me in the ass it's as simple as that""

Mia responds

"that's none of my business"

My response

"so when she pretends to say nice things about you - remember that she thinks you are a diseased and disgusting thing"

Mia responds

"she never even met me and its really silly of you to try to speak negative about someone trying to taint my perception before we've met"

I respond - "did you read what I just wrote?"

Mia responds

I do not care about something someone said to you its none of my business grow up dude seriously

my response - you are dumb as fuck

Mia final response - no one cares lol

So.....my question is this - am I in the wrong here, or should Mia have called Nikki out on her apparent disdain for TS girls. Thoughts?

You don't sound all that bright...

Genetic women can't even stand each other so why would they be any more accepting to trannies than they would the girlfriends and female relatives they stab in the back....?

It's a free country so the logic of her being a whore meaning she shoulding have her own standards makes no sense concidering all the over opinionated tgirl pornstars who frenquent this site....

I say to hell with both girls and just get in where you fit in.

[TSPornFan]

It's all about Money talks and bullshit walks. As long as people get paid enough they forget about certain stuff...

I would never , ever let a (insert: race,ethnicity,sexual orientation,gender,profession,etc here)friend or acquaintance interact with someone who thought that a (insert: race,ethnicity,sexual orientation,gender,profession,etc here) person were "gross" or beneath them in some sort of way. That's a no-no. I would certainly feel compelled to let them know what's up.

This is not about Nikki not working with Christian, this is about Mia basically not showing solidarity with what Christian said, and some girls here doing the same shit (not all the girls).

It's pathetic really. It's sad that some gg Pornstar basically talks shit about you (being transgendered porn workers) and all you have to say is "it's her right , christian just sounds jaded". I would kick you out of the LBGT pride parades in an instant, hypocrites.



+1 to Christian

You're missing a few things about his story. He said this girl has problems with T-Girls. Most people who have problems or homophobic thoughts about TS women normally not hang out of with them. If Nikki dislikes TS women then why was she on a radio show with Mia? TS haters do not spend their time with TS people.

Secondly as I have posted she had sex with Parker London on camera. Her problem with Christian isn't that he fucks T-Girls. Parker London fucks T-Girls.

[RallyCola]

It is about that. He is pissed off again that someone doesn't want to have sex with him. Her problem with him isn't about him fucking T-Girls.

Christian is LYING. Nikki has in FACT had sex on camera with a man who has sex with T-Girls. She has done a scene with Parker London!

Parker London and Sarina Valentina
http://www.kinkondemand.com/kod/shoot/14807-The-Wives-Club-When-you-have-No-One-Else-to-Call.html?c=1

Nikki with Parker London!
http://www.nextdoorhookups.com/en/CRAZY-FUCKER/film/35925


i'm not disputing that he is mad at a chick for not wanting to work with him....but he asked the question about Mia's responsibility to speak on his behalf and the trans-porn community at large.

answering the question about whether Mia did or didn't act appropriately is on target. all this other bullshit about what Nikki did is irrelevant. she didn't want to fuck him, that's it. move on.

the only reason it may be relevant is whether or not Mia trusts and/or believes christian's side of the story. and that brings me back to the question I raised in my initial post, what is the context of Christian's and Mia's relationship.


if I have a trustworthy friend that tells me that they were wronged by someone I am about to meet, I will stand up for my friend. If I am just familiar with a person and they try to get me to speak on their behalf, its not going to happen because I might not give 2 shits about them or i might not trust them. that's all. Mia's actions and her relationship with Christian and the trans-porn community at larger are what this thread should be about, not the actions of a woman that didn't want to fuck Christian.

[my my my!]

You're missing a few things about his story. He said this girl has problems with T-Girls. Most people who have problems or homophobic thoughts about TS women normally not hang out of with them. If Nikki dislikes TS women then why was she on a radio show with Mia? TS haters do not spend their time with TS people.

Secondly as I have posted she had sex with Parker London on camera. Her problem with Christian isn't that he fucks T-Girls. Parker London fucks T-Girls.

That's why I said, money talks and bullshit walks.
Perfect example, Nikki will go on a radio show with Mia while thinking Mia is gross pondscum all in the name of her own personal brand and promotion. And Mia did the same shit.

If Nikki wanted to get to Christian and say, "Look Christian, I just don't like you k thanx bai" we wouldn't be talking about it.

Like I said , this is NOT about Nikki and Christian, this is about gay, trans, lesbian, bi rights and progress, and how some people just don't give a fuck about it enough of the time. Sure they'll show up at parades and shows "we trans need more support and to be recognized" and then when put on the spot they act like it's not their problem.

Christian was spot on.

[christianxxx]

holy shit! thanks Franklin! i had no idea about any of that. i need to let her know about that. wow!

Rally Cola - your first response was right on. I am not friends with Mia off camera, just casual acquaintances. i like your response best

[christianxxx]

Franklin is what is known as a super fanboi - those are guys that love the girls so much that nothing else matters. He will always take the side of a girl bc that is his obsession....porn girls.

I just generally ignore him and move on

[christianxxx]

for the record my initial post is the 100 percent entirety of the story. There is no back story (that I know of) with Nikki and I or Mia and I. Although after seeing Franklin's post maybe I should find out. interesting.

[scroller]

Okay, so I have nothing to do with the porn industry. But in any industry, you can't expect someone doing promotion to engage in an antagonistic civil-rights battle every day. I know that research Prof. X is not going to call Prof. Y on his bullshit, because X and Y are acquaintances and work together, and are part of the same network. If some performer goes on radio with the goal of promoting herself and make people feel good about her work, then she's succeeded by not creating antagonistic drama at that venue.

I mean, completely accepting the original post, you've been given a bunch of contradictory excuses as to why she won't work with you. Well here's another excuse in the line. Is it true this time? Credibility seems low. This is the point where it's wise to stop trying to guess what's in her head, cut your losses, and just move on. Frustrating and sometimes easier said than done, but still the best course of action.

[Jamie French]

Real quick, just as an aside... Christian is probably one of the best smelling guys I've ever been physical with on or off set. One of the things I remember best about our scene was how pleasant he smelled. Just saying.


I have heard from my girlfriends that have made a scene with christian that his cocky, he thinks his the shit, has an attitude when his filming,not friendly and that he has a strong bad smell odor. I don't if this is true but many of my gal friends have told me this. If i had the opportunity to work with christian i would deny him also.

[RallyCola]

I have heard from my girlfriends that have made a scene with christian that his cocky, he thinks his the shit, has an attitude when his filming,not friendly and that he has a strong bad smell odor. I don't if this is true but many of my gal friends have told me this. If i had the opportunity to work with christian i would deny him also.

are you in porn?

[runround04]

Its odd that she wouldnt just be upfront with you to start with, kinda shady. I get why you asked Mia to bring it up with her given she is a well known TS star and the Ts side of the industry should have some unity. BUT, I definitely understand that Mia didnt want to get involved when she was likely there to promote her projects, tours ect...

At the end of the day, shes just another angry female, you may have lost a few $$$ that day, but you seem to have your career on track so I wouldnt sweat it too much, even tho it must get annoying.

[Silcc69]

I agree with you Christian and I think this song pretty much sums it up.

The O'Jays - Back Stabbers - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzTeLePbB08)

[GroobySteven]

are you in porn?

He's not - and it's debatable as to whether it's even a transgender. My money has been on a troll since day one for this character and I've said it before.

[Willie Escalade]

I agree with you Christian and I think this song pretty much sums it up.

The O'Jays - Back Stabbers - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzTeLePbB08)

This one as well from the same album...

O'JAYS - Shiftless ,Shady,Jealous Kind of People (Back Stabbers Album) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86_cXq9Z-X4)

[GroobySteven]

1. It depends why Mia and Nikki were on the same show. If Mia was there to simply promote herself then she was right, it's none of her business and it was still hearsay. If however, she was on a show WITH Nikki to discuss the industry in general then it might have been more pertinent.

2. A model has the choice of who to work with - so whether she rejects Blacks, Asians, big cocks, bald men, people from Arkansas or whomever, it's her choice. This isn't equal opportunity employment. She'll get less work by narrowing her choice. However, by stating she won't work with someone who "fucks trannies" in the ass, then she is stating her dislike and distaste for "trannies" in the same way if she stated she won't work with someone who "fucks blacks", she's be putting across a similar message.
That doesn't mean, Franklin that she won't be seen (heard) on a radio panel with a tranny or that her favourite singer isn't Beyonce. That's a pretty puerile argument to bring up and as for calling Christian a "liar" for finding out that she's worked with a male performer who has worked in a tgirl scene, that's stupid - maybe she didn't know, I've never heard of the guy. I've warning you before about calling people liars including myself, you're not in the know on everything.

It's a business. Her career lifespan is likely to be a lot shorter than Christians.
We've had girls absolutely refuse to work for us for different reasons but 95% of them come back at some point (when the rent is due). I'll make a decision then if they're worth working with and can still sell for us, or in some cases when they've created too much of a fuss, to simply, not. That's my choice.

[Willie Escalade]

We've had girls absolutely refuse to work for us for different reasons but 95% of them come back at some point (when the rent is due). I'll make a decision then if they're worth working with and can still sell for us, or in some cases when they've created too much of a fuss, to simply, not. That's my choice.
Love this...and I know of a few girls who were in this situation.

[AmyDaly]

I would of called her out. I wouldn't of gotten in your business with her, but if I ever have an opportunity to call someone out on their crap I will. Quite honestly I see working with gg women higher risk than transwomen! Look at the infection rates for gg performers to trans performers lol.

And those of you saying you wouldn't work with Christian are just lame. He's one of the best male talent there is to work with...

[Sulka_bewitched_me]

Christian.......no offence but you're coming across as a spoiled brat who didn't get his way. I see your point about Mia choosing not to get involved (even though it would seem she has a vested interest on the matter) but bottom line is A) Nikki has every right to choose whomever she wants to work with or not work with. People you come across in your daily and or professional life are either going to like/dislike or be indifferent to you. You can't and won't change that so why get bent out of shape over it? B) Mia is just a casual acquaintance so to her maybe she can't be bothered to get involved or doesn't care enough to (even though it appears as a contradiction but then again it's not her who feels slighted and lost $$$$$). C) Maybe neither one likes conflict so they just tried to be as low key as possible about the whole situation. Just sayin'.

[GroobySteven]

Love this...and I know of a few girls who were in this situation.

Actually, I better clarify this as someone will pick me up on it. These are already models who've worked for other companies or worked for us before. I would not want a girl who didn't want to model, have to work for us just because the rent was due.

[GroobySteven]

Christian.......no offence but you're coming across as a spoiled brat who didn't get his way. I see your point about Mia choosing not to get involved (even though it would seem she has a vested interest on the matter) but bottom line is A) Nikki has every right to choose whomever she wants to work with or not work with. People you come across in your daily and or professional life are either going to like/dislike or be indifferent to you. You can't and won't change that so why get bent out of shape over it? B) Mia is just a casual acquaintance so to her maybe she can't be bothered to get involved or doesn't care enough to (even though it appears as a contradiction but then again it's not her who feels slighted and lost $$$$$). and C) Maybe neither one likes conflict so they just tried to be as low key as possible about the whole situation. Just sayin'.

... yet you've missed the point. It's not to do with like/dislike - accordingly, it's because she doesn't want to work with someone who "fucks trannies in the ass". That's quite a big difference.

[Sulka_bewitched_me]

... yet you've missed the point. It's not to do with like/dislike - accordingly, it's because she doesn't want to work with someone who "fucks trannies in the ass". That's quite a big difference. Yea I just noticed that while proof reading it again. I would quantify what I said by qualifying it as dislike as in: doesn't want to work with someone who "fucks trannies in the ass". Besides reading what some others have posted re: her working with other performers who have worked with TS or gay performers maybe that's just what she's telling Christian to get him off her back. She's entitled to her "personal" preferences. Definitely not the most eloquent way to put it but there you have it nonetheless.

[Willie Escalade]

Actually, I better clarify this as someone will pick me up on it. These are already models who've worked for other companies or worked for us before. I would not want a girl who didn't want to model, have to work for us just because the rent was due.
Trust me, I get it. Girl works for company, later talks shit about said company, then tries crawling back when money is hard to get elsewhere.

Sort of like the prodigal son...or daughter...

[TSPornFan]

That doesn't mean, Franklin that she won't be seen (heard) on a radio panel with a tranny or that her favourite singer isn't Beyonce. That's a pretty puerile argument to bring up and as for calling Christian a "liar" for finding out that she's worked with a male performer who has worked in a tgirl scene, that's stupid - maybe she didn't know, I've never heard of the guy. I've warning you before about calling people liars including myself, you're not in the know on everything.


Models normally put guys on their no list for having sex with men or T-Girls. Nikki has a history as I have shown to have sex with bi-sexual male pornstars. Girls normally don't say they're okay with the guys having sex with guys, but not with T-Girls. Girls normally don't accept gay male performer and T-Girl male performers.

Nikki knows that these men have done gay porn. That site I linked only used gay male performers with females. The site's theme is to be straight porn for the gay audience(I don't get how that works).

I just did more research. She has another scene with a former TS male performer, TJ Cummings. TJ Cummings did gay and TS porn early in his career.
http://www.teamskeet.com/t1/trailer/view/tight_body_hottie/nikki_delano?nats=rofree11;8642:mailer:ts,0,0,0,0

Now these are TWO guys that I have found.

I'm sorry. I don't believe his story.


Franklin is what is known as a super fanboi - those are guys that love the girls so much that nothing else matters. He will always take the side of a girl bc that is his obsession....porn girls.

I just generally ignore him and move on

Don't slander me! I'm not a fanboi.



And those of you saying you wouldn't work with Christian are just lame. He's one of the best male talent there is to work with...

Sorry, I've seen scenes featuring Christian with T-Girls and GG. I would not put him in the top 20 male performers.

[Boomerang Man]

Christian, your post and the question you pose at the end does not reflect well on you.

[Wendy Summers]

Sorry, I've seen scenes featuring Christian with T-Girls and GG. I would not put him in the top 20 male performers.

Franklin until you shoot a scene where you're having sex with Christian you're not remotely qualified to determine if he's one of the best to shoot with.

[nysprod]

OMG I'm really into this thread...LOVE the dishing and all the inside dirt!

[Genetic]

I can understand her not wanting to fight a battle live on air because most people are cowards who just want to further their career or own agendas or want a quiet life. Personally I'd have taken it up and argued it because I'm someone who will fight for things I feel are important. I wouldn't sit in a room and be all friendly with someone who I know has issues with "my kind".

Sure she has a right to work with whomever she wants but equally people have a right to take issue with it.

[RallyCola]

I would of called her out. I wouldn't of gotten in your business with her, but if I ever have an opportunity to call someone out on their crap I will. Quite honestly I see working with gg women higher risk than transwomen! Look at the infection rates for gg performers to trans performers lol.

And those of you saying you wouldn't work with Christian are just lame. He's one of the best male talent there is to work with...


1st off...i would never work with christian...He's just not my type...ya know...a woman!!!

that being said, the proof is and always will be in his bookings. that he is sought after by producers means he is profitable.

[nysprod]

...maybe that's just what she's telling Christian to get him off her back. She's entitled to her "personal" preferences. Definitely not the most eloquent way to put it but there you have it nonetheless.

Exactly...she doesn't want to work with Christian...maybe Christian was getting all over her about it and she finally just thought to herself "let me just insult this guy to get him off my back"...and then trying to get Mia involved and calling her "dumb as fuck" because she didn't want to get involved in his shit...bad move...

[TSPornFan]

1st off...i would never work with christian...He's just not my type...ya know...a woman!!!

that being said, the proof is and always will be in his bookings. that he is sought after by producers means he is profitable.

I would not say a male pornstar is profitable. People generally do not buy a porno because of the male performer. Do you join a site because you see him or do you join because the scene feature Sarina Valentina?

[TSPornFan]

Exactly...she doesn't want to work with Christian...maybe Christian was getting all over her about it and she finally just thought to herself "let me just insult this guy to get him off my back"...and then trying to get Mia involved and calling her "dumb as fuck" because she didn't want to get involved in his shit...bad move...

I believe this was the case. He said that he has been trying to work with her for years and she always had an excuse. He couldn't get a hint and she insulted him.

[RallyCola]

I would not say a male pornstar is profitable. People generally do not buy a porno because of the male performer. Do you join a site because you see him or do you join because the scene feature Sarina Valentina?

of course male starts are profitable. not so much as the women of porn, but you don't just get any dude off the street and say, "here fuck this way, stop, reposition, now do this, stop, now cum."

business 101...you have debits and credits. as long as your credits outweigh your debits, you are profitable. if a male performer charged too much or was a bad performer which affected the sale of your product, he isn't profitable.

i am sure there are many men that would work for a fraction of christian's rate, but the dependability and profitability of his brand keeps him employed.

[nysprod]

that being said, the proof is and always will be in his bookings. that he is sought after by producers means he is profitable.

Possibly...but from the perspective of an outside observer who is getting a glimpse of the inside view, there could be is another dynamic at work here:

If a male performs in TG films, and especially if he does so repeatedly, the potential exists for him to be ostracized in GG porn because many girls won't want to work with him...guys know this, or they learn about it, and that leads to there only being a limited amount of male talent available.

So Christian may be in a sweetspot in terms of working in TS porn because:

a. he definitely is professional
b. dearth of competition

[RallyCola]

Possibly...but from the perspective of an outside observer who is getting a glimpse of the inside view, there could be is another dynamic at work here:

If a male performs in TG films, and especially if he does so repeatedly, the potential exists for him to be ostracized in GG porn because many girls won't want to work with him...guys know this, or they learn about it, and that leads to there only being a limited amount of male talent available.

So Christian may be in a sweetspot in terms of working in TS porn because:

a. he definitely is professional
b. dearth of competition

as christian has appeared in many strap on films and has his own site where he "fucks them all" including ggirls, i do think you are talking out of your ass.

[nysprod]

as christian has appeared in many strap on films and has his own site where he "fucks them all" including ggirls, i do think you are talking out of your ass.

Can you have a fucking conversation without the extraneous bullshit?? If your opinion differs from mine, that's Ok...state your points and leave it at that...

[Wendy Summers]

I would not say a male pornstar is profitable.

Actually they can make or break whether a scene is profitable. I've lost money on shoots (Booking space, producer fees) where the male talent failed to perform.

Christian is reliable. If he shows up to shoot a scene he gets it done and gets it done quickly.

[amberskyi]

Poor Christian, people love taking shit about him.
Hey if they're hating that means your doing it right

[tsdvdman]

It's been said many times by the girls and video producers that good reliable men are hard to find in the ts porn industry. It's safe to say that Christian has made a name for himself in a positive way. But he is clearly out of control here. Not only is he bashing the gg who wouldn't do a scene with him..but he has also dragged another trannie into his mess and is now bashing her. This sin't highschool. You can't expect other people to jump in on your personal beef and then ostracize them when they don't. get a grip dude you fucking up your brand

[TSPornFan]

It's been said many times by the girls and video producers that good reliable men are hard to find in the ts porn industry. It's safe to say that Christian has made a name for himself in a positive way. But he is clearly out of control here. Not only is he bashing the gg who wouldn't do a scene with him..but he has also dragged another trannie into his mess and is now bashing her. This sin't highschool. You can't expect other people to jump in on your personal beef and then ostracize them when they don't. get a grip dude you fucking up your brand

It appears to me that he has a positive image in the TS industry. However, he has a very bad image in the straight industry for shit like this. Most straight companies will not shoot him. Nikki isn't the first girl he has done this to.

[nysprod]

It's been said many times by the girls and video producers that good reliable men are hard to find in the ts porn industry.

Would like to see comments from industry people on whether this is true and if so, why.

[GroobySteven]

Would like to see comments from industry people on whether this is true and if so, why.

Go and do a search on the forum, it's been brought up plenty of times before.

[giovanni_hotel]

Would like to see comments from industry people on whether this is true and if so, why.
You wonder if this is true??

How long have you been on this board?? Look around at how many identified straight guys on HA still have hang-ups about being sexually attracted to tgirls.

I don't think any message board on the internet has the percentage of lurkers versus posters that HA has.

I think many guys who would fuck a tgirl 24/7 in their private lives if they had the chance, are still worried about getting that 'fag' label attached to them.

So for guys who might be inclined to do TS porn, there's still that hurdle to jump over.

[nysprod]

I think many guys who would fuck a tgirl 24/7 in their private lives if they had the chance, are still worried about getting that 'fag' label attached to them.

So for guys who might be inclined to do TS porn, there's still that hurdle to jump over.

So there are two factors weighing against guys doing TS porn.

[rockabilly]

So he's mad some girl won't work with him due to him working with tgirls?

Pussy is pussy work with a different girl.

[RallyCola]

So there are two factors weighing against guys doing TS porn.


umm...no. a guy that will actually have sex with a transwoman on camera for the world to see and judge him isn't going to be caught up in the label game most of you are

this thread is out of control now...as most are here...because a few posters keep trying to make it about something it isn't

the original question has been answered completely by many here yet the thread persists because of posts like yours

[giovanni_hotel]

umm...no. a guy that will actually have sex with a transwoman on camera for the world to see and judge him isn't going to be caught up in the label game most of you are

this thread is out of control now...as most are here...because a few posters keep trying to make it about something it isn't

the original question has been answered completely by many here yet the thread persists because of posts like yours

His post is relevant in the sense that FRANKLIN made the statement Christian isn't among the top 20 male performers in TS porn. I don't think there are 20 American male talents doing TS porn for the record.

I think it's a logical digression to discuss in part why it's so hard to find male talent in TS porn, and why relationships among talent is so crucial.

But I agree this chick we're discussing is ultimately replaceable.

[RallyCola]

His post is relevant in the sense that FRANKLIN made the statement Christian isn't among the top 20 male performers in TS porn. I don't think there are 20 American male talents doing TS porn for the record.

I think it's a logical digression to discuss in part why it's so hard to find male talent in TS porn, and why relationships among talent is so crucial.

But I agree this chick we're discussing is ultimately replaceable.


ok...let's dissect your statement. AMERICAN males doing TS PORN

1...ts porn is a niche market and a small percentage of the overall porn industry.

2...american TS porn is probably 50% (a guess) of what is out there because ladyboy, newhalf and south american producers do account for a significant amount of the niche.

3...american ts porn production, on a large scale (not the small random indie sites) is really a monopoly of 3-4 major players: Evil Angel, SMC, Devil's Film and Grooby. Everyone else that produces ts porn in the US is minute compared to these companies.

4...we have heard many many times that often, offers for male talent arrive with concerns about showing their face or they lack the necessary attributes

5...we have heard many many times that reliable, healthy men that can perform as directed are not often found among those without identity issues.

taken together, what's the problem here? you have a niche market with a small pool of talent that continually works for one of 4 major production houses.

you want things to change...you want a fresh face...buck up and do it yourself...either bankroll a shoot and choose new talent or star in it yourself.

[nysprod]

this thread is out of control now...as most are here...because a few posters keep trying to make it about something it isn't

the original question has been answered completely by many here yet the thread persists because of posts like yours

Who died and left you the arbiter of threads...i'll send flowers...

[RallyCola]

Who died and left you the arbiter of threads...i'll send flowers...

make then plastic. i don't like to waste water

[supersharpshooter]

All I have to say is 'round my way Christian is what we call 'a bit of a boy'.:cool:

[TSPornFan]

His post is relevant in the sense that FRANKLIN made the statement Christian isn't among the top 20 male performers in TS porn. I don't think there are 20 American male talents doing TS porn for the record.

I think it's a logical digression to discuss in part why it's so hard to find male talent in TS porn, and why relationships among talent is so crucial.

But I agree this chick we're discussing is ultimately replaceable.

Your reading comprehension is terrible. I said Christian is not in my top 20 male performers.


Sorry, I've seen scenes featuring Christian with T-Girls and GG. I would not put him in the top 20 male performers.

My statement did not say anything about TS porn. My statement was about porn in general.

[TSPornFan]

2...american TS porn is probably 50% (a guess) of what is out there because ladyboy, newhalf and south american producers do account for a significant amount of the niche.


Sorry, I think your number is way off. American TS porn is most likely less than 25% of all TS porn. Most DVDs scenes are shot in South America. The majority of websites only shoot South Americans.

I'm super disappointed in Shemale Club. 3 out of its last 18 hardcore scenes feature American TS women.

[RallyCola]

lol...so he was defending you but wrong in his defense!!

[RallyCola]

Sorry, I think your number is way off. American TS porn is most likely less than 25% of all TS porn. Most DVDs scenes are shot in South America. The majority of websites only shoot South Americans.

I'm super disappointed in Shemale Club. 3 out of its last 18 hardcore scenes feature American TS women.


it might in fact be less...it is a guess. i first wrote 35% but then edited it upwards.

[castor_troyuk]

Mia should have probably said something but in not surprised she didn't. Always got the impression the only important thing to her, is herself

[RallyCola]

Mia should have probably said something but in not surprised she didn't. Always got the impression the only important thing to her, is herself

woo hoo...back on topic

[brooke3]

I asked

1. do you agree with Mia in that situation or myself.

.

Mia. It's business,nothing more. Why should she get publicly involved in your business at the risk of her own? And I'm not in porn of course,but I am a tgirl and I do know something about business.

[giovanni_hotel]

THe fuck??
What's the qualitative difference in what I said, FRANKLIN?? You said you don't think Christian is among the top 20 male talents in TS porn. Sorry I didn't quote you EXACTLY and left out 'my'.smh.
How is the point any different??

Who are the other 20 male talents you placed ahead of him??

You're talking out of your ass again and got called on it.
There aren't 20 men who've shot over 50 scenes in TS porn.

[bluesoul]

Love this...and I know of a few girls who were in this situation.

yes. * cough katja kassin cough*

[RallyCola]

at best, i think can name...

1. christian
2. wolf
3. tom moore
4. robert
5. john magum
6. gabriel
7. lobo (does he shoot anymore?)
8. smith
9. lance
10. jay (big muscle dude)
11. the fat guy with curly hair in the babysitters/prostitutes series
12. lucky
13. chris dano
14. lil billy (does he shoot anymore?)
15. diezel
16. danny cannon


i can't come up with another name off the top of my head...who am i missing?

[bluesoul]

Poor Christian, people love taking shit about him.
Hey if they're hating that means your doing it right

not really. it could also mean he's doing something wrong. eg. hitler was hated for doing a lot of things wrong

[MrsKellyPierce]

I call those girls out all the time, even ones I am friends with.

I am friends with girls and they know I don't escort.

But they wont do a scene with me, because they think HIV is a "gay disease" in their head still.

I said to one you will sleep with some fat greasy butterball that has probable never been tested and if he has maybe once or twice with out qualms as long as he pays you his hourly rate of what?? 300 to 400 dollars??

But you refuse to sleep with me who will pay you 600 and you know I'm clean?? Girl get out of here with your better than attitude. And it's almost made every friend of mine change her perspective so I am shooting with a few.

However the ones that wont I don't really talk to anymore, I find them fake.

And these are girls who find transsexuals attractive, if they weren't into transsexuals that would be a different story.

I can understand if you aren't attracted to transsexuals, but not to shoot with them cause you think they are "dirty" is another..when you live in a glass house..and you escort up a storm.

And I've had girlfriends say I'd sleep with you but not with those other girls...and if they escort I call them out on it. Almost all my friends ts or gg that are in the industry escort. But they feel that most clients transsexuals see are black men that are on the downlow and think they got the bug.

I guess they don't think many white guys are into transsexuals? Is what I gathered from conversations with them. lol

They think it's black guys/latin guys thing mostly

And Christian I think it's cause they think you escort to men....that's the gossip I heard from a few female talent of why they wouldn't work with you. And I'm guessing it's agencies telling them this or homophobes.

[MrsKellyPierce]

I also make the argument with girls if anything it's going to make the guy that watches straight porn and tranny porn more into you. It's gonna raise your work and your dollars. Most men that watch trans porn watch straight porn and vice versa. So that also helps change their perspective when I name girls like Angelina Valentine etc.

[giovanni_hotel]

I think it's funny the perception among some GG adult entertainers that only Latino and BM are into TS!!

I almost take that as a compliment.
It's still too bad it's considered a gay thing by people one might think were a little more open minded sexually.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Sorry about my typing..I had my last two wisdom teeth removed..and I'm on my phone

[bluesoul]

have you guys seen pictures of said model (and escort) nikki delano (http://nikkidelano.com/). she's has lovely eyes and pretty teeth. and christian says she prefers to get fucked in the ass by men that don't fuck trannies right? well, i'm willing to take one for the team. i can't promise she'll say yes, but i'll try and get her to change her mind on this subject :)

[MrsKellyPierce]

have you guys seen pictures of said model (and escort) nikki delano (http://nikkidelano.com/). she's has lovely eyes and pretty teeth. and christian says she prefers to get fucked in the ass by men that don't fuck trannies right? well, i'm willing to take one for the team. i can't promise she'll say yes, but i'll try and get her to change her mind on this subject :)
what tell her afterwards lol

[bluesoul]

All I have to say is 'round my way Christian is what we call 'a bit of a boy'.:cool:

sharp

[giovanni_hotel]

at best, i think can name...

1. christian
2. wolf
3. tom moore
4. robert
5. john magum
6. gabriel
7. lobo (does he shoot anymore?)
8. smith
9. lance
10. jay (big muscle dude)
11. the fat guy with curly hair in the babysitters/prostitutes series
12. lucky
13. chris dano
14. lil billy (does he shoot anymore?)
15. diezel
16. danny cannon


i can't come up with another name off the top of my head...who am i missing?

You really made that list off the top of your head??
That's fucking incredible.:jawdrop

[RallyCola]

You really made that list off the top of your head??
That's fucking incredible.:jawdrop
yeah...i have an incredible memory. there is also that new guy alex that kevin dong has been using on a few shoots.

[jamiethewild]

He's not - and it's debatable as to whether it's even a transgender. My money has been on a troll since day one for this character and I've said it before.

LMFAO, that actually means a good thing on my behalf. I have done a good job with my anonymity and that your/anybody's mind would always guess who i was. There's actually only two ppl who know exactly who i am in here. Thanks seanchai for covering my anonymity.

[ew86riv]

I call those girls out all the time, even ones I am friends with.

I am friends with girls and they know I don't escort.

But they wont do a scene with me, because they think HIV is a "gay disease" in their head still.

I said to one you will sleep with some fat greasy butterball that has probable never been tested and if he has maybe once or twice with out qualms as long as he pays you his hourly rate of what?? 300 to 400 dollars??

But you refuse to sleep with me who will pay you 600 and you know I'm clean?? Girl get out of here with your better than attitude. And it's almost made every friend of mine change her perspective so I am shooting with a few.

However the ones that wont I don't really talk to anymore, I find them fake.

And these are girls who find transsexuals attractive, if they weren't into transsexuals that would be a different story.

I can understand if you aren't attracted to transsexuals, but not to shoot with them cause you think they are "dirty" is another..when you live in a glass house..and you escort up a storm.

And I've had girlfriends say I'd sleep with you but not with those other girls...and if they escort I call them out on it. Almost all my friends ts or gg that are in the industry escort. But they feel that most clients transsexuals see are black men that are on the downlow and think they got the bug.

I guess they don't think many white guys are into transsexuals? Is what I gathered from conversations with them. lol

They think it's black guys/latin guys thing mostly

And Christian I think it's cause they think you escort to men....that's the gossip I heard from a few female talent of why they wouldn't work with you. And I'm guessing it's agencies telling them this or homophobes.

kelly she's done scenes with men who have done gay porn and transsexual porn. maybe she didn't know it, but i feel like this is an issue between nikki and christian. not necessarily a girl taking a stance against a whole group of people.

[SunshyneMonroe]

FIRST OF ALL CHRISTIAN ITS BRITNEY MARKHAM I CANT LOG INTO MY ACCOUNT SO IM USING SUNSHYNES.........

I'm going to keep it real when you an i shot a scene u didn't even see my test an i was young and stupid and i didnt ask for urs cus it was a condom scene but u did make me feel very uncofmortable when i shot my hardcore scene with u and when u asked me to fuck u BARE BACK when the director left the room made me feel like u would fuck bare back no matter what i don't blame NIKKI for feeling that way towards u and the transsexual girls because honestly trannys give them selves a bad name and i always use protection and had a full physical for all my test for herpes even the test that the industry makes us get doesnt protect us from herpes which i know alot of the trannys have in this industry i don't think shes wrong at all and MIA u kept it classy by not getting involved christian u really need to realize u do make girls feel this way cus ive had multiple conversations with girls n they feel the same way its disgusting the way u treat girls like their all ur girlfriends multiple times i had to tell u to not touch me when we did only 2 scenes together and that was it that's why i never wanted to shoot with u again that my opinion on it i dont think NIKKI hates trannys the way ur making look like ur mad cuzs u lost out in money basically or content trade when u should worry about is TALENTS HEALTH.the end signed sealed delivered.

[Silcc69]

FIRST OF ALL CHRISTIAN ITS BRITNEY MARKHAM I CANT LOG INTO MY ACCOUNT SO IM USING SUNSHYNES.........

I'm going to keep it real when you an i shot a scene u didn't even see my test an i was young and stupid and i didnt ask for urs cus it was a condom scene but u did make me feel very uncofmortable when i shot my hardcore scene with u and when u asked me to fuck u BARE BACK when the director left the room made me feel like u would fuck bare back no matter what i don't blame NIKKI for feeling that way towards u and the transsexual girls because honestly trannys give them selves a bad name and i always use protection and had a full physical for all my test for herpes even the test that the industry makes us get doesnt protect us from herpes which i know alot of the trannys have in this industry i don't think shes wrong at all and MIA u kept it classy by not getting involved christian u really need to realize u do make girls feel this way cus ive had multiple conversations with girls n they feel the same way its disgusting the way u treat girls like their all ur girlfriends multiple times i had to tell u to not touch me when we did only 2 scenes together and that was it that's why i never wanted to shoot with u again that my opinion on it i dont think NIKKI hates trannys the way ur making look like ur mad cuzs u lost out in money basically or content trade when u should worry about is TALENTS HEALTH.the end signed sealed delivered.

Interesting I thought ya'll was cool though. They scenes that ya'll have shot always looked like the chemistry was there at least.

[tsdvdman]

FIRST OF ALL CHRISTIAN ITS BRITNEY MARKHAM I CANT LOG INTO MY ACCOUNT SO IM USING SUNSHYNES.........

I'm going to keep it real when you an i shot a scene u didn't even see my test an i was young and stupid and i didnt ask for urs cus it was a condom scene but u did make me feel very uncofmortable when i shot my hardcore scene with u and when u asked me to fuck u BARE BACK when the director left the room made me feel like u would fuck bare back no matter what i don't blame NIKKI for feeling that way towards u and the transsexual girls because honestly trannys give them selves a bad name and i always use protection and had a full physical for all my test for herpes even the test that the industry makes us get doesnt protect us from herpes which i know alot of the trannys have in this industry i don't think shes wrong at all and MIA u kept it classy by not getting involved christian u really need to realize u do make girls feel this way cus ive had multiple conversations with girls n they feel the same way its disgusting the way u treat girls like their all ur girlfriends multiple times i had to tell u to not touch me when we did only 2 scenes together and that was it that's why i never wanted to shoot with u again that my opinion on it i dont think NIKKI hates trannys the way ur making look like ur mad cuzs u lost out in money basically or content trade when u should worry about is TALENTS HEALTH.the end signed sealed delivered.
First hand knowledge and real talk

[jamiethewild]

FIRST OF ALL CHRISTIAN ITS BRITNEY MARKHAM I CANT LOG INTO MY ACCOUNT SO IM USING SUNSHYNES.........

I'm going to keep it real when you an i shot a scene u didn't even see my test an i was young and stupid and i didnt ask for urs cus it was a condom scene but u did make me feel very uncofmortable when i shot my hardcore scene with u and when u asked me to fuck u BARE BACK when the director left the room made me feel like u would fuck bare back no matter what i don't blame NIKKI for feeling that way towards u and the transsexual girls because honestly trannys give them selves a bad name and i always use protection and had a full physical for all my test for herpes even the test that the industry makes us get doesnt protect us from herpes which i know alot of the trannys have in this industry i don't think shes wrong at all and MIA u kept it classy by not getting involved christian u really need to realize u do make girls feel this way cus ive had multiple conversations with girls n they feel the same way its disgusting the way u treat girls like their all ur girlfriends multiple times i had to tell u to not touch me when we did only 2 scenes together and that was it that's why i never wanted to shoot with u again that my opinion on it i dont think NIKKI hates trannys the way ur making look like ur mad cuzs u lost out in money basically or content trade when u should worry about is TALENTS HEALTH.the end signed sealed delivered.


This what i been talking about ... this is what i hear from my friends ... was speaking the truth ...

[Buddy Wood]

Wow!! I hate getting involved in threads like this cuz I could go on all day and overall it just makes me mad! But I gotta speak up....

Aside from Kelly and a few others...hardly any of you seem to understand what Christian was doing here. Yes making his money but also making a point it seems!!

First off...Christian, dude I can't believe you even brought that up on here and thought you'd get an objective answer. lol Vocal minority and opening yourself up to the firing squad man. Mia could kill and eat a baby and most guys (and girls cuz she's popular) on here would be on her side AND somehow get angry at you for trying to save that baby. No offense to everyone...but come on it's true. The trannys are ALWAYS right on these boards...whereas in real life ehhhh. Not so much. lol. u know what i mean

That being said...I would never expect Mia to say anything either. I would've done what she did too. keep quiet. She was there to promote herself and make her $$$. I mean come on. I'd like to think they didn't go out drinking after the show and that maybe Mia thinks differently of this girl after what she was told...but that's her decision. If you can hang out with someone that thinks you're a diseased scumbag to promote yourself a bit and make more money...hey more power to ya!! Christian can't do that!

Here's what needs to be said. I have been working with Christian for years... sometimes several times a week for 7-8 years now!! There is no better smelling, better performing male talent in ts porn...bottom line. Believe me I have tried to find them!! I could go on and on about why he's good...but in the end it's because he cares about the scenes and he's a pro. A PRO!!! And it sounds crazy in this context...but he's a man of principles in an industry that doesn't really care about principles all that much. He's fighting fights with gg porn stars (and their boyfriends) while the t-girls who are being shunned by these real girls are trying to emulate and become friends with the very same girls that are talking shit about them. It's sad really. Christian is fighting their fight everyday while still trying to make his money!!! Not just at AVN time when the girls want awards and equality all of a sudden!!!! But all the time. Am I making sense?? If there's one thing Christian is not...it's fake. In a fucking sea of fake people! lol. So yeah sometimes his ego shines thru cuz he's 6'4 and fucks like a stallion and has the work ethic of one too.

To whoever said it's not like High School. It's exactly like high school!!!! I use the analogy all the time. And not in a positive way. Sometimes you just get so frustrated observing it all you gotta speak up. Just not sure this was the place to do it. lol ;-)

Christian I'll see you tomorrow at 1pm. You fucking people are ridiculous.

[GroobySteven]

LMFAO, that actually means a good thing on my behalf. I have done a good job with my anonymity and that your/anybody's mind would always guess who i was. There's actually only two ppl who know exactly who i am in here. Thanks seanchai for covering my anonymity.

Well if you are covering up who you are, then you're def. doing a good job on it - but I hate the hypocrisy of having to be anonymous and therefore, typing bile under an alias. If it's worth saying, then say it yourself.

[TSPornFan]

THe fuck??
What's the qualitative difference in what I said, FRANKLIN?? You said you don't think Christian is among the top 20 male talents in TS porn. Sorry I didn't quote you EXACTLY and left out 'my'.smh.
How is the point any different??

Who are the other 20 male talents you placed ahead of him??

You're talking out of your ass again and got called on it.
There aren't 20 men who've shot over 50 scenes in TS porn.

You're talking out of your ass. I said he is not a top 20 male performer in porn. Again I said PORN. My statement is not limited to TS porn. My statement was about the entire porn industry.

Be a man and admit you're wrong.

[TSPornFan]

I call those girls out all the time, even ones I am friends with.

I am friends with girls and they know I don't escort.

But they wont do a scene with me, because they think HIV is a "gay disease" in their head still.

I said to one you will sleep with some fat greasy butterball that has probable never been tested and if he has maybe once or twice with out qualms as long as he pays you his hourly rate of what?? 300 to 400 dollars??

But you refuse to sleep with me who will pay you 600 and you know I'm clean?? Girl get out of here with your better than attitude. And it's almost made every friend of mine change her perspective so I am shooting with a few.

However the ones that wont I don't really talk to anymore, I find them fake.

And these are girls who find transsexuals attractive, if they weren't into transsexuals that would be a different story.

I can understand if you aren't attracted to transsexuals, but not to shoot with them cause you think they are "dirty" is another..when you live in a glass house..and you escort up a storm.

And I've had girlfriends say I'd sleep with you but not with those other girls...and if they escort I call them out on it. Almost all my friends ts or gg that are in the industry escort. But they feel that most clients transsexuals see are black men that are on the downlow and think they got the bug.

I guess they don't think many white guys are into transsexuals? Is what I gathered from conversations with them. lol

They think it's black guys/latin guys thing mostly

And Christian I think it's cause they think you escort to men....that's the gossip I heard from a few female talent of why they wouldn't work with you. And I'm guessing it's agencies telling them this or homophobes.


The girl Christian is calling out isn't a homophobe. She has done scenes with men who have done gay and TS porn movies.

[WendyWilliams]

I so didn't want to respond but since "our fight" and etc has been questioned I'll attempt to answer without pissing people off on either side. Is Christian a great performer? YES. I don't think anyone should question that nor should it be the topic of this. However he is not doing some "fight" for equal for me or any other transsexual performer. If that is his cause and I greatly doubt it is then he is going at it all the wrong way. As long as I have been in Porn his sexuality has been a question and topic in the "straight" Industry. Christian has made a VERY successful career and business man for doing the jobs that many do behind closed doors and I applaud him for that HOWEVER his tactics of almost "bullying" these ladies has been borderline well bullying. He is known for using his connections to work with ladies and tgirls he wants too and when it doesn't happen he uses it against them in the name of some "cause". There is YEARS of examples of ladies for whatever reason and thus begins the name calling, calling out online, etc. Let's take Wolf Hudson for example who is very popular with the ladies and though he will make comments here and there he never has resorted to these tactics when it comes to those who wish and don't wish to work with him. So before anyone goes on this tirade about "fighting the fight" please atleast be subjective to the issue. A lot of the reasons why it goes to this length with him is how dramatic he makes it and MUST point out that the person is "homophobic or transphobic".

Do I think there is an issue with female vs trans performers? YES. But for whatever reason it is their RIGHT to choose who and why they work with someone. It is not my job to try and persuade them however I can try and educate them. If they continue to be ignorant then I'm not going to try and ridicule and stoop to the level of bullying and or name calling. (though I have been guilty within my own niche)

So Christian wants US ts performers to rage against these TS and "call them out" however in his own friendships there are anti TS and he is still buddies with them. For example Tyler Faith years ago on KSEX radio said that it was "gross" and "gay" for men to like transsexuals. She then went on and on about it. So because she is a friend of his you don't see him calling her out on his social networks, nor should he. He has to respect her as a friend and that's the way it should be. I would never HATE on him because they are friends. So a female can think we are gross as long as she sleeps with him?

As far as Mia goes she has never been a voice of reasoning or someone that anyone besides our niche takes serious. I wasn't shocked she chose the route she did however I wouldn't have either. Sadly knowing how Christian is when it comes to the issue I would have been skeptical to say the least. Doesn't mean I want to hang out with her but appearing on the show isn't a place to hash out crossover talent. I personally would have asked her about it off air and waited to hear her reasoning.

This all comes down to Nikki making a stupid statement and Christian sitting back with a big shit eating grin knowing he will take her to task about it and then deciding to rally the troops. Though sometimes I think his intentions are good I sincerely doubt he is doing it to fight our fight LOL.

I respect Christian as a performer, a business man and probably one of the most intelligent people I have ever known in the bizz but I am not sold or never have been on the reasoning or how he handles these situations. Lets be clear he has been the punching bag for the crossover issue for TRANS. But its hard not to be when you are high profile, sadly people go after what they see and if you shout back then be ready for the backlash of it all.

I will continue to praise him for his business sense and for being reliable and proud male talent for our niche but sometimes it's like he has hung out with tgirls too long and becomes catty like us LOL. Christian and I are VERY civil and always have respected each other decisions even when we don't agree with them. I have known him before I got into Porn. We have out moments like anyone will and I guess that's why I've never had any issues with him. We don't hang out in the same circles , dont have the same friends and I can appreciate he is a good lay LOL. So this is not an ANTI Christian comment but just speaking on the issue at hand.

I reached out to Nikki's publicist to get her side of this and hopefully she will respond on the ISSUE OF TRANS performers not why she won't work Christian.

[Silcc69]

I so didn't want to respond but since "our fight" and etc has been questioned I'll attempt to answer without pissing people off on either side. Is Christian a great performer? YES. I don't think anyone should question that nor should it be the topic of this. However he is not doing some "fight" for equal for me or any other transsexual performer. If that is his cause and I greatly doubt it is then he is going at it all the wrong way. As long as I have been in Porn his sexuality has been a question and topic in the "straight" Industry. Christian has made a VERY successful career and business man for doing the jobs that many do behind closed doors and I applaud him for that HOWEVER his tactics of almost "bullying" these ladies has been borderline well bullying. He is known for using his connections to work with ladies and tgirls he wants too and when it doesn't happen he uses it against them in the name of some "cause". There is YEARS of examples of ladies for whatever reason and thus begins the name calling, calling out online, etc. Let's take Wolf Hudson for example who is very popular with the ladies and though he will make comments here and there he never has resorted to these tactics when it comes to those who wish and don't wish to work with him. So before anyone goes on this tirade about "fighting the fight" please atleast be subjective to the issue. A lot of the reasons why it goes to this length with him is how dramatic he makes it and MUST point out that the person is "homophobic or transphobic".

Do I think there is an issue with female vs trans performers? YES. But for whatever reason it is their RIGHT to choose who and why they work with someone. It is not my job to try and persuade them however I can try and educate them. If they continue to be ignorant then I'm not going to try and ridicule and stoop to the level of bullying and or name calling. (though I have been guilty within my own niche)

So Christian wants US ts performers to rage against these TS and "call them out" however in his own friendships there are anti TS and he is still buddies with them. For example Tyler Faith years ago on KSEX radio said that it was "gross" and "gay" for men to like transsexuals. She then went on and on about it. So because she is a friend of his you don't see him calling her out on his social networks, nor should he. He has to respect her as a friend and that's the way it should be. I would never HATE on him because they are friends. So a female can think we are gross as long as she sleeps with him?

As far as Mia goes she has never been a voice of reasoning or someone that anyone besides our niche takes serious. I wasn't shocked she chose the route she did however I wouldn't have either. Sadly knowing how Christian is when it comes to the issue I would have been skeptical to say the least. Doesn't mean I want to hang out with her but appearing on the show isn't a place to hash out crossover talent. I personally would have asked her about it off air and waited to hear her reasoning.

This all comes down to Nikki making a stupid statement and Christian sitting back with a big shit eating grin knowing he will take her to task about it and then deciding to rally the troops. Though sometimes I think his intentions are good I sincerely doubt he is doing it to fight our fight LOL.

I respect Christian as a performer, a business man and probably one of the most intelligent people I have ever known in the bizz but I am not sold or never have been on the reasoning or how he handles these situations. Lets be clear he has been the punching bag for the crossover issue for TRANS. But its hard not to be when you are high profile, sadly people go after what they see and if you shout back then be ready for the backlash of it all.

I will continue to praise him for his business sense and for being reliable and proud male talent for our niche but sometimes it's like he has hung out with tgirls too long and becomes catty like us LOL.

I reached out to Nikki's publicist to get her side of this and hopefully she will respond on the ISSUE OF TRANS performers not why she won't work Christian.

Great answer Wendy. BTW you ever get that shot done while you was in Nashville a few weeks ago?

[bluesoul]

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[nysprod]

I personally think Christian, Seachai, Buddy Wood and Wendy should respond to the Britney Markham post.

[TSPornFan]

Great response Wendy!

I think everyone owes me an apology for this bullshit. What I said is true.
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=73680&highlight=christian

Yes, this is my ego speaking.

[WendyWilliams]

Franklin he hasn't denied he takes the ladies to task so not sure what you are right about. It's his delivery I have the issue with. Also you have a opinion thst is just that a opinion. No right or wrong.

[WendyWilliams]

None of my business what Brittany has to say with her personal dealings with Christian. Not sure why you think I should respond to that. Not my place!

[nysprod]

None of my business what Brittany has to say with her personal dealings with Christian. Not sure why you think I should respond to that. Not my place!

Ok...I just thought that since you made a fairly extensive and mostly positive post, you might want to since hers was so neg.

[RallyCola]

so...i have a really important question...who is buddy shooting with christian at 1pm tomorrow?

[rockabilly]

@ Buddy

So that's why the world didn't end ... Mia ate the baby antichrist?

[RallyCola]

@ Buddy

So that's why the world didn't end ... Mia ate the baby antichrist?

if she did, i feel sorry for the guy that topped her the next day. babies might taste good on the way in, but on the way out....well, just ask your average north korean

[Willie Escalade]

so...i have a really important question...who is buddy shooting with christian at 1pm tomorrow?

I know who it is but I won't divulge the information lol.

Great thread, y'all! An early nominee for Thread of the Year perhaps? :Bowdown:

[GroobySteven]

I personally think Christian, Seachai, Buddy Wood and Wendy should respond to the Britney Markham post.

What part of it do you want me to respond to? I didn't see anything in there referring to me? Britney just worked with us last week and I've got a good communication to her.

"I" personally, feel like you're looking to stir up some trouble ... again.

[GroobySteven]

Great response Wendy!

I think everyone owes me an apology for this bullshit. What I said is true.
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=73680&highlight=christian

Yes, this is my ego speaking.


He doesn't "threaten" people. Your choice of words is entirely incorrect. He might question them why they haven't/won't work with him - the same as I will if a model doesn't work with our company for whatever reasons (so I hear it from the horse's mouth).

[TSPornFan]

He doesn't "threaten" people. Your choice of words is entirely incorrect. He might question them why they haven't/won't work with him - the same as I will if a model doesn't work with our company for whatever reasons (so I hear it from the horse's mouth).

Some people consider bullying to be threatening. It can be seen as threatening when Christian keeps begging girls to work with him after they said no many times. This wasn't the first time Nikki told him no. People can feel very threaten by his type of actions.

[GroobySteven]

Some people consider bullying to be threatening. It can be seen as threatening when Christian keeps begging girls to work with him after they said no many times. This wasn't the first time Nikki told him no. People can feel very threaten by his type of actions.


Conjecture and not fact. Let it go Franklin, you've had your say and it's been shown to be unfounded. Time to move on.

[tsdvdman]

He doesn't "threaten" people. Your choice of words is entirely incorrect. He might question them why they haven't/won't work with him - the same as I will if a model doesn't work with our company for whatever reasons (so I hear it from the horse's mouth).
The girls he "questions" might feel differently though. It can be viewed and felt as threatening and bullying

[GroobySteven]

The girls he "questions" might feel differently though. It can be viewed and felt as threatening and bullying

See my post to Franklin above.

[nysprod]

See my post to Franklin above.

Let's forget about threatening...wouldn't you say though that Christian would simply be better served if when a girl says she doesn't want to work with him, for whatever reason, he just leaves it at that...as you said, girls who refuse to work for you often come back looking for work...and these complications are avoided.

[GroobySteven]

Let's forget about threatening...wouldn't you say though that Christian would simply be better served if when a girl says she doesn't want to work with him, for whatever reason, he just leaves it at that...as you said, girls who refuse to work for you often come back looking for work...and these complications are avoided.

It's none of my business. Why are you asking me - I don't have an opinion on that. Move on.

[TSPornFan]

Conjecture and not fact. Let it go Franklin, you've had your say and it's been shown to be unfounded. Time to move on.

What I have said is actually shown to be founded by Christian himself in this thread. I understand Christian maybe your friend. I do not know antying about your relationship with him. It doesn't look good when a porn producer stand behinds Christian's bad behavior and his view that he is entitled to have sex with any pornstar.

[RallyCola]

i have a solution. since this thread is about 3 people...nikki, christian and mia...perhaps the next time any of them are topped, for spite and penance, they get a dirty sanchez.

levity people...it keeps a porn forum fresh

[GroobySteven]

What I have said is actually shown to be founded by Christian himself in this thread. I understand Christian maybe your friend. I do not know antying about your relationship with him. It doesn't look good when a porn producer stand behinds Christian's bad behavior and his view that he is entitled to have sex with any pornstar.

I haven't stood behind any bad behavior. This is the last time I'm going to tell you, move on.

[buckjohnson]

First I dont know why Franklin had to move on. That statement is like the cat who doesnt get pick to play basketball so he takes the ball home with him. I dont want to get Freud on you, so lets say that was childish silly statement. Second no one responded to BM's post. It read real and insightful. Third I agree with Mia's response, though the OP responses to others comments offered clarity to his original post. Finally, I would have some second, third and fourth thoughts with having any kind of intimacy with a sex worker, esp one who takes a bareback dick up the ass.

[TatianaSummer]

2 years ago, there was a brand new GG in the biz named Nikki Delano. I thought she was smoking hot, and I was still producing for Naughty America at the time. I shot her 2 different times when she was brand new and put good money in her pocket. She was friendly, and although I would have liked to work with her, for whatever reason I didn't.

She is also a well known escort, and when I had the opportunity, I helped her figure out where she could get some jobs overseas.

Since I have returned to the states, I have repeatedly asked her to shoot content trade for our respective websites. She has given multiple different answers why she couldn't each time. I didn't think much of it, although it was annoying. Then it hit me, that she didn't want to work with me.

So 2 weeks ago, of course we were booked together for a scene in Vegas. The day before....of course she declined to work with me and switched scene partners.

Now, a girl can choose who she wants to work with, this is always true. But I was upset that she never said anything to me, and acted like we were buddies, when in reality she thought I was gross.

How do I know this you ask? Because we got into a short text exchange where she posted this gem and this is verbatim

"you are too childish, when you talk about fucking trannies all the time, you should wonder why girls don't want to work with you"

"I am not going to let a guy who bangs trannies fuck me in the ass, it's as simple as that!"

Again, this is a well known hooker, who has been in the business long enough to know that all TS girls get the exact same health test as GG.

So again, this girl cost me money and a scene bc she didn't want to work with me because I am gross bc I do TS girls. Thats the bottom line.

Fast forward to today.

Jason Ellis has a radio show and his guests today were Nikki Delano and Mia Isabella.

Here is my conversation with Mia -

"when you go on that show - ask Nikki Delano about how she won't work with anyone who has worked with TS girls - her text to me when she canceled a scene "I'm not going to let a guy who bangs trannies fuck me in the ass it's as simple as that""

Mia responds

"that's none of my business"

My response

"so when she pretends to say nice things about you - remember that she thinks you are a diseased and disgusting thing"

Mia responds

"she never even met me and its really silly of you to try to speak negative about someone trying to taint my perception before we've met"

I respond - "did you read what I just wrote?"

Mia responds

I do not care about something someone said to you its none of my business grow up dude seriously

my response - you are dumb as fuck

Mia final response - no one cares lol

So.....my question is this - am I in the wrong here, or should Mia have called Nikki out on her apparent disdain for TS girls. Thoughts?

Wait a minute... You have sex with trannies? :ignore:

[livepersona]

Oh the irony of this.....I looked up her pictures and she looks like a tranny.

[christianxxx]

just give me one chance Tatiana!

[daltx_m]

well I didn't read all the posts, but there are a lot of bullshit responses. Let's substitute 'tranny' for 'blacks' and see what responses you get. They would have bashed the shit out of mia as happens to everyone else on here who doesn't want to see blacks or work with people who do or sides with the original poster about it. Moving on.

[LilyRox]

This is just one of those things where people trying to brush everything off in front of the mic and leave things behind closed doors. I don't think Mia wanted to put herself out in front of everyone drilling her with questions. I think if it was just in private she might have said something to her though. Even if deep down inside Mia does think Nikki is hateful towards TS's she probably didn't want to confront her on the attacking side in the public for her own good seeing as most people would typically side with a GG even if they're wrong. Mia is also probably used to this type of prejudice and the last thing she wants to do is start drama on a radio show.

[hulloo458]

just put a wig on and book her for an hour outcall - problem solved :salad

[TatianaSummer]

just give me one chance Tatiana!

I didn't know you wanted to serve me. :)

[christianxxx]

100 percent i do!

[VictoriaVeil]

Wait a minute... You have sex with trannies? :ignore:

Lol.. I heard that too ... :deadhorse

[TatianaSummer]

100 percent i do!

so you want to be my slave, submissive, or my valet?

[Vladimir Putin]

While it would have been appreciative for Mia to stand up for herself and her community by not showing respect for Nikki since Nikki doesn't respect TSs, in all fairness to Mia it sounds like she may have stumbled upon a battle that she wanted nothing to do with. Sometimes it takes a lot of strength and energy to stand your ground and maybe Mia was simply not in the mood to get into any spitting matches with anybody. While I'm sure knowing this much about Nikki may have rattled her a little, she probably figured as long as Nikki doesn't try to dress her down on the radio show over her being a TS, then there is no reason for her to get into a confrontation with her. She probably has had to deal with animosity from other people and was simply not interested in adding another person to her shit list.

My two cents.

[TatianaSummer]

seriously now, I think that many people do not have the guts to stand clear and debate their point of view. Others are afraid that if they say something which someone won't like then they will loose a future biz partner and so on.
I am glad it wasn't me because if I have to tell something to someone I will. None of them pay my bills nor give me anything so I am free to speak as I wish.
I feel sorry for the people that have to keep their mouth shut so other people keep giving them work. If this girl Nikki if she wants respect she needs to earn it!
those are my 5 pennies