T-Girls That Work Vs. T-Girls That Hustle

[TS Evelyn Summers]

Hello There...


I have a question.....


I have been a member of hung angels for YEARS....have went through COUNTLESS id's here...


And one thing I have noticed, is that T-Girls who live a normal life ( i.e. a REAL 9 to 5 jobs, NOT on the club scene every 2 seconds, and not sucking dick to try and pay the light bill, pretty much always the LAST to look/blend in through society physically, but MORE mentally/emotonally stable & have all their ID's in order. )


Get ZERO recognition from the forums I think. And would just like to know why are these types of girls outcast & seen as NOT really being about anything...Or have no meaning or place here.... ( LOL, maybe I just answered my own question )



On the FLIPSIDE to that coin...You have T-Girls that all they do is "Hustle" to get by or try and build a dream. They have porn sites....work as prostitutes....and GLORIFY the "lifestyle" ( i.e. ALWAYS in the club....ALWAYS in some sort of Drama, 7 out of 10 have criminal record of some type..Always the FIRST to look/blend in through society physically, but NOT emotionally/mentally, and could care less about ID's ) and yet these are the girls that are held in VERY high regards....Why is that???


Do all these sites & "production companies" help things along. Simply as a catalyst for the ever growing "content" cash cows????


I'm trying to understand.


Eve,


xoxo

[GroobySteven]

1. "7 out of 10 have criminal record of some type." - where did you get that statistic?

2. "why are these types of girls outcast & seen as NOT really being about anything" - nobody is "outcast", although this a forum that is mainly geared towards the adult TS community. I've seen plenty of non-porn girls get plenty of attention here.

3. Do you have an actual question - or was this more of a moan and whine that nobody is paying you much attention? If there was a question, please repeat as I missed it.

[Jericho]

Get ZERO recognition from the forums I think. And would just like to know why are these types of girls outcast & seen as NOT really being about anything...Or have no meaning or place here.... ( LOL, maybe I just answered my own question )

Indeed you did
Porn, init.
It's Hung Angels, not Dear Deidre :shrug

[amberskyi]

all i have to say to this thread is a big fat LOL

[giovanni_hotel]

This is a promo site I guess foremost for content providers and escorts, but occasionally the board drifts off into the territory of a normal social networking site; more human interest type topics.

It would be cool if there were a version of HA that was focused on the transgendered lifestyle that didn't include the porn aspect, but I still think you get the best of both on HA, if that's possible.

I've seen a few blogs that cater more to living TS 9 to 5 without exclusively focusing on porn. The problem is there's always going to be a sexual element because of the lust admirers have for TS.

For instance Amber could post a thread about getting her vehicle registration tags at the DMV and eventually someone is going to comment about her azz/tittays or how bad they wanna fuck her.

At least on HA all that sexual tension stuff is right out in the open.

[amberskyi]

ive been on a few forums that are geared towards transwoman supporting each other and they are kinda strict there.not only is there an application process in which its kinda hard to be a male and become a member but they are very quick to ban guys who get overly sexual or rude.

[Tika]

Respect, that's what it's about.

Immature people don't respect normal people that work normal jobs. They think someone sucking dick 24/7 to pay for ten sets of fake tits and liposuction and ass implants to end up looking like a plastic freak is "hot". This is what happens when people are treated as property or trophies. You get idiots thinking that someone is defined by how much their purses are worth, or how many pairs of expensive shoes they own, or whatever materialistic BS someone values in this ridiculous consumerist culture. Immature, stupid, fake, worthless people respect money. It's pathetic.

Value the people that are smart. Value the people that don't whore themselves out so they can get fancy clothes or purses or whateverthefuck. Value people that have dignity, education, that stand their own rather than try to fit in with the herd.

[eccentricBlue]

Most people treat everyone equally IMO. Just because some of the women here enjoy a quasi celebrity status doesn't mean some are valued or appreciated more than others.

[giovanni_hotel]

Respect, that's what it's about.

Immature people don't respect normal people that work normal jobs. They think someone sucking dick 24/7 to pay for ten sets of fake tits and liposuction and ass implants to end up looking like a plastic freak is "hot". This is what happens when people are treated as property or trophies. You get idiots thinking that someone is defined by how much their purses are worth, or how many pairs of expensive shoes they own, or whatever materialistic BS someone values in this ridiculous consumerist culture. Immature, stupid, fake, worthless people respect money. It's pathetic.

Value the people that are smart. Value the people that don't whore themselves out so they can get fancy clothes or purses or whateverthefuck. Value people that have dignity, education, that stand their own rather than try to fit in with the herd.

Many TS in the adult entertainment and escorting business fit this stereotype unfortunately, but one thing you learn is that many of these ladies are far from one dimensional human beings.

It's about many of them IMO chasing easy money, it's not the only thing they're capable of doing.

[iagodelgado]

ive been on a few forums that are geared towards transwoman supporting each other and they are kinda strict there.not only is there an application process in which its kinda hard to be a male and become a member but they are very quick to ban guys who get overly sexual or rude.

Therein lies the problem. There are 'porn' sites that I'm allowed to be on, along with the girls.

There are 'non-porn' sites for the girls, that I'm not allowed to be on or will get thrown off 5 minutes after joining.

tgirltalk was porn but highly respectful of the girls.

hungdevils is more porn than tgirltalk, less than hungangels, still fairly respectful of the girls, and there is a serious issues subforum that is missing a girl to give it some real impetus again. Any girl interested, kindly let Seanchai know.

[Wendy Summers]

Value the people that are smart. Value the people that don't whore themselves out so they can get fancy clothes or purses or whateverthefuck. Value people that have dignity, education, that stand their own rather than try to fit in with the herd.

See: here's the thing: it's not an either or proposition. I live in both worlds. I'm highly educated work a corporate job AND I work in adult entertainment. For me porn is equally capitalist and artistic expression for me. This us or them mentality is self-defeating for both sides. #Onlypoliticiansdealinabsolutes

[amberskyi]

Therein lies the problem. There are 'porn' sites that I'm allowed to be on, along with the girls.

There are 'non-porn' sites for the girls, that I'm not allowed to be on or will get thrown off 5 minutes after joining.

tgirltalk was porn but highly respectful of the girls.

hungdevils is more porn than tgirltalk, less than hungangels, still fairly respectful of the girls, and there is a serious issues subforum that is missing a girl to give it some real impetus again. Any girl interested, kindly let Seanchai know.

so i guess your looking for a non-porn site thats related to ts girls that both the men and women can interact?

[bluesoul]

I'm trying to understand.


Eve,


xoxo

well, it's been a while since you reminded us what kind of car you drive, so naturally we forgot and turned our attention somewhere else.

[bluesoul]

Therein lies the problem. There are 'porn' sites that I'm allowed to be on, along with the girls.

There are 'non-porn' sites for the girls, that I'm not allowed to be on or will get thrown off 5 minutes after joining.

tgirltalk was porn but highly respectful of the girls.

hungdevils is more porn than tgirltalk, less than hungangels, still fairly respectful of the girls, and there is a serious issues subforum that is missing a girl to give it some real impetus again. Any girl interested, kindly let Seanchai know.

normally i would support this logic, but you acting as though if an avenue isn't created (or pointed out to you) then there is no way for you to meet transsexuals. i've actually been on non-porn transsexual forums where men were allowed to be there (or at least, no discrimination was given and there were no tests to be a member). they only didn't appeal to me because they functioned more as a support network for girls going thru transition and/or looking for people whom they could talk to when feeling down/confused etc.

i honestly don't believe people here try and look for different avenues because this place already caters for what they're really after: the illusion of being a part of that lifestyle

[NoahNomad]

If you are truly looking to "assimilate" in to a stealth life, or a "mainstream" life outside of the t-girl world...then why are you looking for attention on forums? Spend your time connecting with other like-minded transsexual women who are not a part of the adult industry. You spend your time on this forum talking about how you want to be prettier, you want a man, etc. and you also talk down about the very girls the guys on this forum are gathering to see and discuss. Seems like you're not spending your time wisely when you do decide to grace the online t-girl world with your presence.

I really don't think you should be complaining. You are a transsexual woman who seems to be doing well in your personal life and professional life, so why do you feel the need to talk down about girls who have chosen the industry life as their way to achieve stability, or get ahead at this time in their lives? Whether your privilege has blinded you or not, some girls truly don't have the physical or mental ability to work a 9-5 job in mainstream society. It's not all about passing, although safety and comfort in every day life is essential.

Here in California, you can't get a job if you wanted a job lol but at the end of the day, it's extremely insulting to act like the majority of the women doing sex work have not considered and tried other options before utilizing this opportunity to their benefit. Maybe there's a little bit of jealousy mixed in there as well?

[NoahNomad]

Respect, that's what it's about.

Immature people don't respect normal people that work normal jobs. They think someone sucking dick 24/7 to pay for ten sets of fake tits and liposuction and ass implants to end up looking like a plastic freak is "hot". This is what happens when people are treated as property or trophies. You get idiots thinking that someone is defined by how much their purses are worth, or how many pairs of expensive shoes they own, or whatever materialistic BS someone values in this ridiculous consumerist culture. Immature, stupid, fake, worthless people respect money. It's pathetic.

Value the people that are smart. Value the people that don't whore themselves out so they can get fancy clothes or purses or whateverthefuck. Value people that have dignity, education, that stand their own rather than try to fit in with the herd.
While there are many trans* girls that fit this description, why are you so angry about it? At the end of the day, you are living a life that you are proud of...so why shit on other girls who may still be finding themselves and/or are struggling to gain acceptance within themselves and the world around them? Why not be a voice of reason and inspiration? You could easily be a great mentor or friend for some of these girls who have gotten caught up in doing whatever they can to get *what they feel they need*.

When you're life around you is warbled and confusing and sometimes dangerous and depressing, I can imagine why you would want to fill it with pretty, shiny things: to make yourself feel better.

If you, as a trans woman, cannot understand this...then you are very far removed and pretty fortunate!

A lot of these girls don't have love and acceptance from family, and they don't have the love of a strong man or woman who wants to take care of them and keep them safe. Surrounding themselves with expensive bags, pretty clothes and shoes, the hair, the jewelry, the adoring johns and fans, the cash-in-hand...you can see how it creates a bubble of "fabulousness" that masks the hardship for the time being.

[bluesoul]

Here in California, you can't get a job if you wanted a job lol but at the end of the day, it's extremely insulting to act like the majority of the women doing sex work have not considered and tried other options before utilizing this opportunity to their benefit. Maybe there's a little bit of jealousy mixed in there as well?

how is it insulting? i think as soon as they can, a lot of them jump into sex work. personally, i think it's insulting you think otherwise

[NoahNomad]

Even if they are jumping right into sex work upon transitioning...why do you think that is? Fear, insecurity, instability, little to no support, possibly having to start over, no positive trans role models. The majority of reasons for getting into it are because of a LACK of one or many things in their life due to being a transsexual. It's not fun and games. These girls are actresses. You don't know their real life situation. They get paid to be happy, sexy, willing to please, and to not judge you and deal with your ass for however long you paid for.

I'm in no way saying all ts women aren't capable of going out and getting a job outside of sex work. This is not the circumstance of all trans women, but it is for the majority. I'm saying that it is unfair to question and judge these girls, as the original poster did, on something that stems from lack and oppression. They have turned it into a positive thing to be able to make money, be independent, and try to build the life they want. Some girls would have gotten into the industry either way, but again, you can't judge someone from their online personality and the facade. You're talking about a very small minority of girls who are just doing sex work to get a handbag.

[amberskyi]

Even if they are jumping right into sex work upon transitioning...why do you think that is? Fear, insecurity, instability, little to no support, possibly having to start over, no positive trans role models. The majority of reasons for getting into it are because of a LACK of one or many things in their life due to being a transsexual. It's not fun and games. These girls are actresses. You don't know their real life situation. They get paid to be happy, sexy, willing to please, and to not judge you and deal with your ass for however long you paid for.

I'm in no way saying all ts women aren't capable of going out and getting a job outside of sex work. This is not the circumstance of all trans women, but it is for the majority. I'm saying that it is unfair to question and judge these girls, as the original poster did, on something that stems from lack and oppression. They have turned it into a positive thing to be able to make money, be independent, and try to build the life they want. Some girls would have gotten into the industry either way, but again, you can't judge someone from their online personality and the facade. You're talking about a very small minority of girls who are just doing sex work to get a handbag.

preach!..let the church say a-fucking-men lol

[bluesoul]

Even if they are jumping right into sex work upon transitioning...why do you think that is?

quick, easy, money.

[amberskyi]

i guess you choose to delibertly ignore everything he said after that huh smh

[bluesoul]

i guess you choose to delibertly ignore everything he said after that huh smh

he didn't say anything valid, just excuses.

[Rusty Eldora]

I think HA is doing an OK job for both the girls and for others to appreciate and accept Tgirls. I am unaware of other sites (besides Hung Devils) that even show guys Tgirls past the porn pics. I would guess that around half of the population doesn't even think of Tgirls as real, or more than cross dressers. Another big chunk think they are gay if they are attracted to a Tgirl, much less actually be with a Tgirl.

One big surprise to me was that Tgirls are real women, yes those I've met are escorts, but that fact alone caused my attraction to soar. Getting the hobby community to be accepting of TG would be a big step.

[NoahNomad]

quick, easy, money.
lol don't be dense. The reality is, all these guys have their heads up their asses because they believe the hype. It's an unpopular truth, but this shit is not glamorous, and, I don't know who said it was easy --- oh right, not a ts escort or film actress ---. If a girl is being honest, she will tell you the shit is difficult to do, and difficult to live with, but it is a solution to a problem that is not going to end any time soon: the lack of equality and acceptance of transsexual women in the real world. No matter how pretty a tgirl is, no matter what she's willing to do...she's still a transsexual woman, and in the real* world, that is not something easy to work around to secure a life worth living, for most.

[amberskyi]

he didn't say anything valid, just excuses.

and you know this based on what? do you have any substantial experience as or with a ts?

[BellaBellucci]

See: here's the thing: it's not an either or proposition. I live in both worlds. I'm highly educated work a corporate job AND I work in adult entertainment. For me porn is equally capitalist and artistic expression for me. This us or them mentality is self-defeating for both sides. #Onlypoliticiansdealinabsolutes

Took the words right out of my keyboard.

~BB~

[amberskyi]

lol don't be dense. The reality is, all these guys have their heads up their asses because they believe the hype. It's an unpopular truth, but this shit is not glamorous, and, I don't know who said it was easy --- oh right, not a ts escort or film actress ---. If a girl is being honest, she will tell you the shit is difficult to do, and difficult to live with, but it is a solution to a problem that is not going to end any time soon: the lack of equality and acceptance of transsexual women in the real world. No matter how pretty a tgirl is, no matter what she's willing to do...she's still a transsexual woman, and in the real* world, that is not something easy to work around to secure a life worth living, for most.

i will say this.while it may not be easy to do i know many who do.
im not saying that we need excuses but i think most of the girls (working or not,passable or not) will admit being a ts adds extra hurdles on top of the other hurdles life gives us

[NoahNomad]

That's all I'm saying. Ladies who do porn or escort work do not need* an excuse for why they do what they do. I personally congratulate the women who are about their business. I see some of the beautiful women on here like Bella, Kelly Shore, Wendy Williams, Amber, Wendy Summers, my fiancee, Amy Daily, etc. who are very intelligent, very realistic, very down-to-earth, and women who have been able to balance their adult work with real life. These women are great examples of tgirls doing it right. Transitioning successfully is hard enough. Learning to not just survive but actually thrive in society as a ts woman whether passable (because there ARE other challenges than just looking "female enough") or not, is fucking hard! Not getting swallowed up into the fantasy land of money, cars, and tgirl hoes is difficult. Many don't make it. But we are in a forum where the guys just want to get hard and shoot loads, fantasizing about the above mentioned women...so, I will be seen as being "too deep" and one who makes excuses. First off, and I hate bringing this up at all but, I am a trans man, and second of all I am engaged to a transsexual woman in the adult film industry and music industry. The shit is realer than these dudes can comprehend. The fantasy has become too real, but the girls are making their money so I congratulate them and encourage them to stay safe, stay focused on your money, and try not to get jaded about men and life in the process.

[amberskyi]

That's all I'm saying. Ladies who do porn or escort work do not need* an excuse for why they do what they do. I personally congratulate the women who are about their business. I see some of the beautiful women on here like Bella, Kelly Shore, Wendy Williams, Amber, Wendy Summers, my fiancee, Amy Daily, etc. who are very intelligent, very realistic, very down-to-earth, and women who have been able to balance their adult work with real life. These women are great examples of tgirls doing it right. Transitioning successfully is hard enough. Learning to not just survive but actually thrive in society as a ts woman whether passable (because there ARE other challenges than just looking "female enough") or not, is fucking hard! Not getting swallowed up into the fantasy land of money, cars, and tgirl hoes is difficult. Many don't make it. But we are in a forum where the guys just want to get hard and shoot loads, fantasizing about the above mentioned women...so, I will be seen as being "too deep" and one who makes excuses. First off, and I hate bringing this up at all but, I am a trans man, and second of all I am engaged to a transsexual woman in the adult film industry and music industry. The shit is realer than these dudes can comprehend. The fantasy has become too real, but the girls are making their money so I congratulate them and encourage them to stay safe, stay focused on your money, and try not to get jaded about men and life in the process.

OMG! i know who you are lol.im so mad i didnt get to meet yall when yall where down here.your girl always struked me as a really cool person to kick it with.

[Chaos]

But we are in a forum where the guys just want to get hard and shoot loads, fantasizing about the above mentioned women..

Oh good...I was hoping to be generalized and thrown into a group I don't belong in... :mad:

[tsdvdman]

This is a great topic...AND started by one of the girls. I find it disingenuous that anyone..especially other girls would try to dismiss it simply because they have a different view or because they only have a one dimensional hustle.
On one hand..many of you say you hate when guys only come at you as a sex object or fetish..pornstars..freak...chick with a dick..hoe..escort..Etc etc..yet you jump all over a girl who diversifies the threads with a topic about "alternative" work versus escorting. Seems like a discussion you all would embrace..especially those with other skills

[NoahNomad]

Oh good...I was hoping to be generalized and thrown into a group I don't belong in... :mad:
I apologize lol I realized I do generalize a lot, but that's because I'm used to discussing social justice issues surrounding trans women and in those forums all men are usually the enemy haha even me.

[Chaos]

It's ok....I'm a bit crabby today....Trying to quit smoking and not going very well....sigh.

[NoahNomad]

This is a great topic...AND started by one of the girls. I find it disingenuous that anyone..especially other girls would try to dismiss it simply because they have a different view or because they only have a one dimensional hustle.
On one hand..many of you say you hate when guys only come at you as a sex object or fetish..pornstars..freak...chick with a dick..hoe..escort..Etc etc..yet you jump all over a girl who diversifies the threads with a topic about "alternative" work versus escorting. Seems like a discussion you all would embrace..especially those with other skills
This topic should be embraced. I'm interested to know what some women are doing along with their adult work or escorting. What are their long-term plans for income and stability, short of getting married and relying on the husband for cash flow lol

& we were like damn, Amber, because you seem really cool too!

[Protoman2050@gmail.com]

Well, I plan on using my microbiology degree to work as a researcher for a biotech company, and do escorting on the side. I don't think I could ever be a full-time TS escort or porn actress...I'd feel like I'm wasting my real talents.

[BellaBellucci]

Well, I plan on using my microbiology degree to work as a researcher for a biotech company, and do escorting on the side. I don't think I could ever be a full-time TS escort or porn actress...I'd feel like I'm wasting my real talents.

A microbiologist who can't spell 'clique?' Between that and your username, I'd say the chances of you telling the truth about anything on this board are slim to none. :lol:

~BB~

[SuzySnappz]

See: here's the thing: it's not an either or proposition. I live in both worlds. I'm highly educated work a corporate job AND I work in adult entertainment. For me porn is equally capitalist and artistic expression for me. This us or them mentality is self-defeating for both sides. #Onlypoliticiansdealinabsolutes

I'm also living in both worlds, although for me it's working a corporate job and then escorting on the side here and there, I don't happen to do porn. And I actually started escorting *after* I had a corporate job for a good while... I feel like a bit of an outlier in that regard, lol. But there's a real mix of people on these forums.

If you're looking for discussion boards for transsexuals living regular lives outside the adult industry, they're out there... But that's not what Hung Angels is about.

(To be honest, I've been looking for a discussion board that is really just geared toward tv/ts escorting, not so much porn like this site is, but I haven't really found anything. This site nice and busy but probably less than 5% of the threads are about escorting. Myredbook almost fits the bill but it's just focused on the Bay Area which is annoying.)

[cassieukts]

Well for me I am too old for porn so I have to work and save for all the treatment I need. I work in the Web industry so I can always freelance if I need to.

[Dino Velvet]

I'm also living in both worlds, although for me it's working a corporate job and then escorting on the side here and there, I don't happen to do porn. And I actually started escorting *after* I had a corporate job for a good while... I feel like a bit of an outlier in that regard, lol. But there's a real mix of people on these forums.

If you're looking for discussion boards for transsexuals living regular lives outside the adult industry, they're out there... But that's not what Hung Angels is about.

(To be honest, I've been looking for a discussion board that is really just geared toward tv/ts escorting, not so much porn like this site is, but I haven't really found anything. This site nice and busy but probably less than 5% of the threads are about escorting. Myredbook almost fits the bill but it's just focused on the Bay Area which is annoying.)

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[RallyCola]

As has been stated, this is a porn forum first and foremost with very little added by women who are not in the industry. most of the women that participate here are involved to a certain degree with the porn/escorting industry.

i would suggest, rather than posting what amounts to a rhetorical thread, that you start discussions about being a 9-5er so that perchance the forum can evolve as others have done above.

[SuzySnappz]

I just checked you out. Very nice. I see Chicago, Peoria, Detroit, but no Los Angeles. Please include us.

Thanks Dino! Yes, well that's part of my problem with living in both worlds and having a regular job... I can't just up and travel across the country escorting, I just do it around the Midwest.

I really need some type of legit telecommuting job, even if it's just part-time, so I can travel and escort wherever I want. Drive around the country like a tranny Jack Kerouac, that would be awesome. Then I would see you in LA for sure.

[yodajazz]

Hello There...


I have a question.....


I have been a member of hung angels for YEARS....have went through COUNTLESS id's here...


And one thing I have noticed, is that T-Girls who live a normal life ( i.e. a REAL 9 to 5 jobs, NOT on the club scene every 2 seconds, and not sucking dick to try and pay the light bill, pretty much always the LAST to look/blend in through society physically, but MORE mentally/emotonally stable & have all their ID's in order. )


Get ZERO recognition from the forums I think. And would just like to know why are these types of girls outcast & seen as NOT really being about anything...Or have no meaning or place here.... ( LOL, maybe I just answered my own question )



On the FLIPSIDE to that coin...You have T-Girls that all they do is "Hustle" to get by or try and build a dream. They have porn sites....work as prostitutes....and GLORIFY the "lifestyle" ( i.e. ALWAYS in the club....ALWAYS in some sort of Drama, 7 out of 10 have criminal record of some type..Always the FIRST to look/blend in through society physically, but NOT emotionally/mentally, and could care less about ID's ) and yet these are the girls that are held in VERY high regards....Why is that???


Do all these sites & "production companies" help things along. Simply as a catalyst for the ever growing "content" cash cows????


I'm trying to understand.


Eve,


xoxo

I think this is a good post for starting a discussion. I would disagree that non-hustling women here get no recognition. I see it as, those who do sex work tend to post more pictures, attracting sexual attention. There have been several 'non-sexwork' trans-women who stopped posting, and in some cases never posted a picture. Other t-girls here have written off all the male members here in their posts. Thus many of the non-hustling ones, don't stick around.