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tsadriana
01-22-2013, 01:18 AM
I just saw online a movie about bulliyng someone because of her/his look and i was really shocked about what some human been are capable to do...Maybe it was thread before about bulliyng someone but the reason why ive made this thread its because i can`t imagine how terible it is to be a bully...i find it so painful and im sure most of you will be agreed with me.

themaster
01-22-2013, 03:17 AM
Growing up and being chubby didn't help me. I would hear people call me fat all the time, not only from kids, but adults too. My mom would always say to me that you will be stronger for this, the bullying will stop and, those kids bulling you will be in jail while you make millions.

I'm not making millions, but it did help that one guy who bullied me is in jail (unrelated).

But that pain of being bullied never goes away.

tsadriana
01-22-2013, 03:20 AM
Growing up and being chubby didn't help me. I would hear people call me fat all the time, not only from kids, but adults too. My mom would always say to me that you will be stronger for this, the bullying will stop and, those kids bulling you will be in jail while you make millions.

I'm not making millions, but it did help that one guy who bullied me is in jail (unrelated).

But that pain of being bullied never goes away.
I dont know the felleng for being bullied but im sure its someting who will be always inside you....This movie made me realise how sad can be for people who are bullied and how lonely they can feel inside.i had actuly cryed...it was so deep...

Quiet Reflections
01-22-2013, 03:28 AM
I actually had a friend of mine say he understood bullies and thought that in some ways they help people to better themselves. That thought process really bothers me because I know he is not alone in thinking that. Having been bullied like most people I can honestly say the experience made me feel like shit and im only a better person because of the other supportive people I had around me. The only real thing I still have that I got from being bullied is a terrible mean streak.

tsadriana
01-22-2013, 03:31 AM
I actually had a friend of mine say he understood bullies and thought that in some ways they help people to better themselves. That thought process really bothers me because I know he is not alone in thinking that. Having been bullied like most people I can honestly say the experience made me feel like shit and im only a better person because of the other supportive people I had around me. The only real thing I still have that I got from being bullied is a terrible mean streak.
Trust me i will never wish to my worse enemy to be bullied...What i saw it was creepy and i dont want to be in anyone place.

irvin66
01-22-2013, 04:06 AM
Bullying is awful and must be stopped in schools and workplaces and elsewhere in society, there must be zero tolerance to such beastly behavior!!!!!!!!
Here in Norway, it has emerged that children are being bullied in kindergarten too. it seems like it has been getting worse by bullying, maybe it was like that before too but now people have taken courage and called it out that we do not tolerate such behavior!!!!

jamiethewild
01-22-2013, 04:26 AM
Bullying can be mentally or physically.
Mentally, i'll say you have to learn and study the other person and in what level are you going to treat them? It could be with attitude, anger, jokes, playing childish etc and its up to you how you take the feedback. If your a strong bitch, you won't give a flying fuck because it will come in through one hear and come out the other and challenge them.

Physically - everyone has different strategies and experience. But, yes bullying is terrible to see in real life, specially when its physically.

Remy757Photog
01-22-2013, 04:52 AM
bullying really sucks, I dealt with it for years growing up, but I do have tougher skin now on account of it

fivekatz
01-22-2013, 05:48 AM
Bullying is a dark side of human nature, where a person feeds their insecurity by making others they believe as weaker than themselves insecure.

Bullying is an ugly trait and one that we should have little tolerance of, it more often leaves scares on young victims, even when they stand up to it.

Just my take

tsadriana
01-22-2013, 05:54 AM
We should stop the bullys ...I dont think its normal for the 21st century someone to humiiate someone....This story affected me so much and i wasnt even bulliyed.Its someting like we should do..WHEN WE SEE A RAT BULLIYNG SOMEONE TO PUNCH HIS FACE...

fivekatz
01-22-2013, 06:08 AM
We should stop the bullys ...I dont think its normal for the 21st century someone to humiiate someone....This story affected me so much and i wasnt even bulliyed.Its someting like we should do..WHEN WE SEE A RAT BULLIYNG SOMEONE TO PUNCH HIS FACE...I may be totally naive but I don't think beating the crap out of a bully is as likely to change the demons within a person that makes them bully.

It may feel really good to put a physical whooping on a bully, but if one can reach a bully and make them have empathy with their victim, that awareness of the damage bullying causes and that by the grace of God it could have been the bully rather than his/her victim would go further to impact real change in that person.

Just my take

Rusty Eldora
01-22-2013, 07:20 AM
When I was in school (back when the earth's crust cooled - the 60's & 70's) paddling by teachers had ended but the principal still could (3rd person in room to verify also). If a child was misbehaving all the teacher needed to say is "do you want to go to the office" where this really mean looking paddle was in the hallway window. The kid would go bolt upright in their chair and reply "No Mam". The school had good control on the kids.

Bullying and similar activity wasn't tolerated, outside of school there was teasing but parental control was pretty good.

We have now gone pretty wishy washy on the enforcement of the rules and laws, meanwhile we have gazillions of new rules and laws not enforced.


Whooping a bully doesn't change behavior but punishing one for bad behavior can change them. Interestingly, Canada now has tougher enforcement and swifter justice. They have less problems with such behavior.

rodinuk
01-22-2013, 09:10 AM
Bullying has scarred me for life, from various kids and from one instance of corporal punishment by a teacher. In retrospect I think he got his jollies from hitting kids and that was ok for him because he was a vicar. The reason for the punishment was that I'd brought the wrong colour notebook to class (should have been the dark green one not the dark blue one - I wrote on the blank centre page so later I could transcribe it into the other book).

Jericho
01-22-2013, 10:26 AM
I may be totally naive but I don't think beating the crap out of a bully is as likely to change the demons within a person that makes them bully.

It may feel really good to put a physical whooping on a bully, but if one can reach a bully and make them have empathy with their victim, that awareness of the damage bullying causes and that by the grace of God it could have been the bully rather than his/her victim would go further to impact real change in that person.

Just my take


Oh good god...Yeah, ok, Oprah!

Chaos
01-22-2013, 10:26 AM
Responding to bullying with violence will only perpetuate it.
It is a learned behavior. Someone who sees you as different or weaker picks on you, and in turn you find others weaker or different to take out that hostility on.
Beating up a bully may get them to stop bothering you,but it will not stop them from finding others to bully...
My father was a bully. Vietnam Era Marine,abused by his parents,and like a lot of Vets he had no job to look forward to or anything. We were on Welfare,and he turned to dealing drugs. He took any jobs he could get...he sold Avon,brushes door to door...anything. I was the victim of all his frustrations,as was my sister to a lesser extent. When I reached my early teens and could finally fight back,he went after my sister more. My dad didn't just go after us though....ANYONE he saw as weak or undeserving of whatever he thought he should have suffered. The violence was contained within the family,the verbal and emotional abuse was not. I was lucky that I never became a bully per se,but not so lucky because all the anger and hostility is still there...
My father gave me PTSD,severe chronic depression,anxiety,social phobia,and a severe lack of impulse control when my temper flares. I ended up picking fights with people bigger and stronger than me...Instead of being your typical bully,I ended up being a different kind completely. To make things worse, I didn't have the luxury of being able to get away from the situation. People in school wanted to pick fights because I was from a rival school,I was the new kid,and I was ill suited for any normal social interaction....Fighting was an everyday thing for me,sometimes more than one a day. Then, I got to go home and be the "troublemaker" that was always wrong and the source of all my fathers problems (his words). I can't count the number of times he told me he hated me and what I "made him do". I've learned to control my temper over the years,but honestly,it takes more energy than anyone knows....It's an everyday war with myself. I may no longer get violent,but the verbal factor is still there,as is the emotional. I lack the faculties to get rid of it permanently,I was raised to handle problems in ways "normal" people were not. Even when I'm not upset you can tell something is "off" about me. I don't act like other people my age or even other people in general. Some people will tell you I'm Evil, others will say I'm just a nice guy and misunderstood.....but the truth is the bullies in my life won,and there wasn't a single thing I was ever taught to get me past that or let it go.

ghbryans1
01-22-2013, 09:07 PM
Look folks, life is what it is, people are how they are and that's the end of it. It's not fair and expecting it to be is naive. You either deal with it or you don't. You either survive or you don't. Every minute you spend complaining about it or making excuses in the face of it is a minute of your life you've wasted.

ImpulZ
01-22-2013, 09:20 PM
only one option for bullys......

Bully Beatdown Season 3 Episode 6, Bully Mike VS. Eddie Alvarez - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yiyphq39ghM)

rodinuk
01-22-2013, 10:36 PM
Look folks, life is what it is, people are how they are and that's the end of it. It's not fair and expecting it to be is naive. You either deal with it or you don't. You either survive or you don't. Every minute you spend complaining about it or making excuses in the face of it is a minute of your life you've wasted.

A good point, life isn't fair!

Life may be what it is but there is always room for improvement, bullying suppresses or harms its victims, potentially making them less sociable, less positive and consequently less contributory to society.

Bullying (which is what we're talking about on this thread) is not an acceptable behaviour and there are ways of tackling this through education and victim support, providing confidential channels etc. to help free people who suffer actual bodily harm or mental harm (sometimes after years of abuse) from those perpetrators. Those victims are not necessarily capable of getting to the help they need and may require an intervention.

So every minute you spend highlighting the harm done by bullying and promoting things like this:

http://www.bullyingawarenessweek.org/

is a minute well-spent ;) :geek:

buttslinger
01-22-2013, 11:28 PM
I remember the neighborhood bullies growing up....you'd find out their dads were beating on them, one way or another.

fivekatz
01-23-2013, 04:57 AM
Oh good god...Yeah, ok, Oprah!Well may be it is a long shot but if parents and those charged with dealing with the young and adolescent could make bullies feel the emotions of shame that they inflict on their victims that just may go a lot further than smack in chops.

Clearly corporal punishment often just leads to the receiver looking dish some back out. That was the point I was trying to get at, perhaps not very articulately but if bullies understood the humiliation and it is framed in a way that they could emphatic to just how bad that feels we might see a change.

Also if peer groups could be educated to see bullies for what they are that might be a powerful deterrent, but kicking the snot out of a bully may feel good at the moment but it does little iMO to change the behavior.

Yours,

O