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MsDazzler
01-18-2013, 05:04 PM
Another meandering post from me... lol

I am wondering if most of you guys found yourself subconsciously being attracted to trans women on hormones without you realizing they were on them or you have been attracted, regardless. (I am talking about in PERSON, not when viewing PICTURES or VIDEOS. A huge difference there)

Reasons I ask -

1) Hormones have subtle to dramatic effects on the face and skin, as well as the capability to grow breasts.

2) Pheromeones (sp)?

3) My sex appeal, especially without having to wear makeup, has seemed to increase twofold around straight men in public, after being on hormones for 14 months now. I am getting hitting on more than I have been in the past.

In short, do you find yourself with the tendency to subconsciously end up being attracted to women who are on hormones?

dabaldone
01-18-2013, 08:14 PM
Interesting question! Let me say this; some women's phermomes (weather trans or not) can be a turn on or a turn off. I dated a trans-woman who physically. Visually and emotionally gave off the impression she was all woman. She carried herself very well and had excellent hygiene. But, her natiral body odor (phermomes?) Was a turn off. She was on hormones. I've met non op gals who may or may not have been on hrt that had a smell that drove me wild. So I don't know.

amberskyi
01-18-2013, 08:25 PM
im sure they would prefer we dont take hormones so we can cum like gay porn stars hahahaha

my my my!
01-18-2013, 08:40 PM
beautiful amber said: " im sure they would prefer we dont take hormones so we can cum like gay porn stars hahahaha "

This is not the case with me at all. :(

I like the softness,smell, attire, kindness, taste of females, and could actually care less about the penis.

To me a transgendered girl is the equivalent of : blond, short , fat , thin, brunnette etc. Just a physical attribute, not a thing that defines her being a woman.

But to Ms Dazzle, yes hormones definitely help =) softness, hair not being in the wrong places, boobies , full head of hair are all really nice on a woman

To those that will ask me: "why are you attracted to tgirls then , if it's not for the penis?"
Answer: I'm attracted to the woman, there's really no explanation other than that. attractive is attractive. Hope you all understand that.

For example, Amber to me is just a gorgeous woman, period.

Remy757Photog
01-18-2013, 08:56 PM
Hormones all the way! Lol I think most non sex industry trans woman put a higher emphasis to maintaining their hormone regiment and being as womanly as possible instead of the way the sex industry more often portrays us as rock hard cock wielding, cum spurting transsexuals.

ARMANIXXX
01-18-2013, 10:13 PM
Another meandering post from me... lol

I am wondering if most of you guys found yourself subconsciously being attracted to trans women on hormones without you realizing they were on them or you have been attracted, regardless. (I am talking about in PERSON, not when viewing PICTURES or VIDEOS. A huge difference there)

Reasons I ask -

1) Hormones have subtle to dramatic effects on the face and skin, as well as the capability to grow breasts.

2) Pheromeones (sp)?

3) My sex appeal, especially without having to wear makeup, has seemed to increase twofold around straight men in public, after being on hormones for 14 months now. I am getting hitting on more than I have been in the past.

In short, do you find yourself with the tendency to subconsciously end up being attracted to women who are on hormones?

Don't care.

Some girls don't even really need them.

Willie Escalade
01-18-2013, 10:23 PM
Hormones yes.

jamesedwards
01-18-2013, 10:36 PM
im sure they would prefer we dont take hormones so we can cum like gay porn stars hahahaha

:dead: WTF? lol

MsDazzler
01-19-2013, 06:04 AM
lol... and to be frank, hormones, castration, or SRS helps arrest further masculinzation of the face and the body... so, even a youthful non op trans woman will eventually succumb to the masculinzing and ravaging effects of testosterone, especially when she hits late 20s.

I think only young trans teens and women in their early twenties can get away with being non-op, but by 30s or above, it is pretty much impossible to not take hormones without starting to look too masculinized.

This even applies to Asians, commonly touted for their andro looks and ability to pass without hormones. I've seen some Asian trans women who were passable and non op eventually lose that ability to pass as they matured and got older.

wiltthestilt
01-19-2013, 06:51 AM
I dont really have a preference. I will say regarding TS porn, if the TS does not get hard I wont watch. The erection is a crucial part of my fantasy. The only times I have encountered transgendered persons is the few times I have sought them out (2 parties, 1 escort) so I dont know all the pros and cons.

TSPornFan
01-19-2013, 07:49 AM
Good question. I don't think Domino Presley was on hormones until she was getting ready to get implants, and she already had a strong fan base. Jesse has never taken hormones and she also has a strong fan base.

MsDazzler
01-19-2013, 08:09 AM
how old are they now?

TSPornFan
01-19-2013, 08:10 AM
how old are they now?

I don't know. I'm sure they're younger than 30.

Instrumental
01-19-2013, 09:50 AM
There's really nothing subconscious about it. I'm attracted to femininity, and unless a person is on hormones, they aren't going to look feminine or as feminine as they could (with the exception of a rare rare androgynous few). Make up and surgery can do a lot of course, but hormones still have their place.

MsDazzler
01-19-2013, 05:04 PM
Only the andros can get away with not being on hormones but that usually lasts only from teen years until late 20s then the dreaded testosterone finally catches up with them and wreak havoc.

Let us observe and wait... even Andre Pejic will eventually succumb to testosterone once he hits his late 20s (if he does not take antiandrogens, get castrated, or go on hormones). He is only , what, 19 now?

Kire89
01-19-2013, 05:17 PM
I don't know. Jesse has always looked quite masculine to me despite hormones (and she (nearly?) always tops which is such a turn-off in porn to me personally), while some TVs can appear nearly womanlike. Comes down to genetical witchcraft, ie. luck, most of the times I suppose.

RallyCola
01-19-2013, 07:45 PM
i am attracted to women and femininity therefore i believe that as hormonal changes are a necessary part of transitioning that those that do not take hormones will continue to be less attractive to me. make up and clothes are only part of an illusion...window dressing so to speak. hormonal and physical alteration are what i consider transitioning, not just dress up.

Protoman2050@gmail.com
01-19-2013, 07:52 PM
I'm going to get that orchi after I graduate.

sophiebendable
01-19-2013, 11:21 PM
im sure they would prefer we dont take hormones so we can cum like gay porn stars hahahaha

This. It seems like most men who are attracted to trans women (particularly those looking to pay) would prefer we are hormonally male, mainly because without any testosterone in your body you don't ejaculate.

Erections are less effected than most people assume, i.e. they'll still happen whenever you're aroused just not spontaneously. I assume that if I was turned on by sticking my dick in people, then I would become hard enough to do so, although this is just speculation. Of course, there's also always Viagra.

I also think a large part of male attraction to trans women is based on the assumption that we would be more similar to them in terms of how we think about sex, regardless of our role. In other words, I think that even men who only want to top me would prefer that I achieve orgasm in around the same time frame and frequency as them and be sexually stimulated in the same way (mostly visually).

Most of the changes caused by hormones are emotional and very subtle bodily changes that make more of a difference to the woman on them than her sexual partners. Don't get me wrong, these have been the difference between life and death for me and will always be far more important to my bodily comfort and emotional well-being than any surgeries I end up having. However, I am not sure many casual sexual partners (particularly men, although I know I'm stereotyping here) notice things like how I smell or how soft and dry my skin is.

MsDazzler
01-19-2013, 11:39 PM
Yes, I agree with the poster above...

It is a contradiction, lol.... men want us to be able to function and shoot loads (a belief that is perpeutated by TS porn stars who either are not on hormones or do a cycling regimen) but that requires us NOT Being on hormones and still having our testicles, yet, they want us to be on hormones because of its feminizing effects.

A contradiction, no?

I hate it when men start to harp on about my genitalia and try to get it erect in bed and that just makes things worse, feeling pressured to "function" and my thing hides even further. lol

sophiebendable
01-19-2013, 11:51 PM
Yes, I agree with the poster above...

It is a contradiction, lol.... men want us to be able to function and shoot loads (a belief that is perpeutated by TS porn stars who either are not on hormones or do a cycling regimen) but that requires us NOT Being on hormones and still having our testicles, yet, they want us to be on hormones because of its feminizing effects.

A contradiction, no?

I hate it when men start to harp on about my genitalia and try to get it erect in bed and that just makes things worse, feeling pressured to "function" and my thing hides even further. lol

Yeah, this is because of porn. But to be fair, you don't need hormones to have a feminine face. It's true that if you're not excessively masculine to start with then the subtle fat redistribution in your face will make a significant difference in how you're read by strangers. But it's nothing compared to bone structure. I'm 27 and only started on hormones a couple years ago, so definitely hoping I can afford FFS soon. Like I said, hormones are really more for me than anyone else.

TS Evelyn Summers
01-20-2013, 12:31 AM
Isnt it to my understanding...That hormones can only do such much for you..


Then the body begins to level off, just as is with anything over looooong periods of time????


Then you start getting into the region damaging your liver and/or OTHER health from all the pills and what not over LONG TERM use???

sophiebendable
01-20-2013, 12:45 AM
Isnt it to my understanding...That hormones can only do such much for you..


Then the body begins to level off, just as is with anything over looooong periods of time????


Then you start getting into the region damaging your liver and/or OTHER health from all the pills and what not over LONG TERM use???

Not totally sure what you mean. I mean, it's not like they're going to turn your cock inside out no matter how long you take them. So I guess you could interpret that as they "only do so much for you." But I think what they do is pretty damn important.

Hormones will produce all female secondary sexual characteristics, they just can't get rid of some male ones like facial hair or masculine bone structure. Puberty lasts for around 7 years whether it's caused by ovaries or pills/injections, but most of the changes you'll notice pretty soon after your testosterone drops and would go away pretty immediately if you stopped hormones.

As for damage to your liver, my doctor says there isn't a significant long term risk with pills. Besides, it seems like at least half the trans women I know do injections instead. Antiandrogens carry most of the risk, which is why I wish medical protocols treated orchiectomy as more of a serious option.

Lovecox
01-20-2013, 03:34 AM
I don't care what they take as long as they are healthy, feminine, sexy and fun.

Magical Dreamer
01-20-2013, 06:38 AM
Isnt it to my understanding...That hormones can only do such much for you..


Then the body begins to level off, just as is with anything over looooong periods of time????


Then you start getting into the region damaging your liver and/or OTHER health from all the pills and what not over LONG TERM use???

For the most part this is pretty much true. The risk of liver damage is one reason why I decided to get castrated, so I wouldn't have to ingest anymore spironolactone. The risk varies though depending on which form of estrogen you're taking though.

MsDazzler
01-20-2013, 08:15 AM
I have an appointment with an urologist in few weeks! CAN'T WAIT!!!

Jericho
01-20-2013, 08:39 AM
I'm thinking a pulse will suffice in most cases! :shrug

josefino
04-08-2013, 11:06 PM
I think we must separate things. Personally, I only enjoy porn, specially when the actress get hard and cum. Yes, it is desirable that she looks pretty on video. But that's something that I understand to happen only in porn movies and shouldn't expect from girls under hormones out of the industry. In my opinion, those are two different ways for two different preferences and life styles. Unfortunately, at least in Brazil, many just would like to not be in porn industry, but MUST be due to prejudice. And that makes girls that really don't want to be porn actresses to work in the industry, despite under hormones.
Guys and TS-porn fans are not always contradictory. Sometimes reality is.