is it true that most tgirls want to remove their junk at some point?

[irradiatedd]

someone told me once that most chicks with dicks aim to have their penises removed eventually. then i recently read something about yasmin lee planning to remove hers later in her life (which made me sad). i just want to know from the girls who frequent these boards, are your dongs just temporary?

[saifan]

1 of the top 5 best first posts ever.

Welcome.

[irradiatedd]

umm thanks...your not being sarcastic are you?

[amberskyi]

It's not a removal of the penis and it's quite transphobic to refer to it as such.we don't get it cut off, chopped or any of the other silly ways you guys describe it.

[RallyCola]

someone told me once that most chicks with dicks aim to have their penises removed eventually. then i recently read something about yasmin lee planning to remove hers later in her life (which made me sad). i just want to know from the girls who frequent these boards, are your dongs just temporary?

where to start???

i'll sum up. there are some transwomen that feel quite content with their penis and others that would like to complete the transformation when the time is right. For those in the sex/porn industry, they may exploit their genitalia until they feel they are ready and that has nothing to do with their fans or how they are perceived in the industry. It is a deeply personal choice that most arrive and many use porn/escorting as a method to finance their choices...that is all.

I contest that you refocus the emptiness you may feel from Yasmin potentially not sporting a cock towards supporting her if she should decide to "complete" her transition.

[irradiatedd]

i dont understand. why is the word "removal" offensive?

i'm not criticizing yasmin at all. it is her body and she can do whatever she wants with it? she certainly has my support if that means anything.

[jennylicious]

It's not a removal of the penis and it's quite transphobic to refer to it as such.we don't get it cut off, chopped or any of the other silly ways you guys describe it.

:iagree:

Reference to temporary dongs, and 'chicks with dicks' are also unacceptable words on this forum.

To answer the question a bit further than some of the excellent answers here, there is a big thread on the quality of the post op operation. While it is apparently much better than it was before, the end resuts for the operation aren't perfect. This has been an influence on the decision to have it done.

[jennylicious]

i dont understand. why is the word "removal" offensive?

i'm not criticizing yasmin at all. it is her body and she can do whatever she wants with it? she certainly has my support if that means anything.

Because IT IS NOT REMOVED.

[HarajukuDollxoxo]

Dongs? Really? Poor choice of words if you were genuinely trying to ask a question about transgender women and their genitals...

[amberskyi]

Because it implies that the person is losing apart of themselves which isn't what happens at all.i suggest you research what exactly happens during a gender reassignment surgery.the penis becomes inverted and turned into a vagina.nothing gets cut off or removed.

[irradiatedd]

ok then. i didnt mean any offense. where i live there are no tg people so i'm not familiar with the etiquette. i will choose my words more carefully

[Protoman2050@gmail.com]

I'm an MTF transsexual, and I plan on keeping my penis as a) the inversion surgery is really, really painful, with a lot of post-op maintenance, b) really, really expensive, with a LOT to go wrong, c) I like peeing standing, d) nobody cares what's between your legs, and most importantly e) I don't need a pussy to be a girl.

[irradiatedd]

i'm curious proto, hypothetically, if the procedure didnt have all the problems you mentioned, would you go through with?

[Quiet Reflections]

Where do you live? because if the internet has taught me anything it is that there are transgendered people everywhere.

[Protoman2050@gmail.com]

i'm curious proto, hypothetically, if the procedure didnt have all the problems you mentioned, would you go through with?

Not sure...if it meant I could still pee standing, yeah. I'd kill to have a cock AND a pussy, though!

In the current state of technology, I'm happy with estradiol, spiro, and cosmetic surgery.

BTW, name's Alexis. You can call me Lexi. I've only been on HRT since this past November, so I still look like a bulldyke. My hair should grow out to a feminine length by the end of the year. Though I am 6'0" and around 154 lbs, and a 34A, and people say I look feminine.

[MrsKellyPierce]

I was planning on post op surgery in 2009...went through the counseling and more...

However the doctor told me he couldn't promise me I'll orgasm or if it will look natal (natural)....

That freaked me out some, so I decided to hold off.

And FYI guys when they do SRS they filet the penis...cut it in half down the middle.

And use the scrotal skin and the penis to make the vagina.....

And I've seen many guys go off what they see in post op porn...when a lot of those times..the girl obviously could only afford the first step of surgery..

There are two parts making the vagina. The first step is creating the holes/connecting the nerve endings/pee hole etc and the second part is doing the hood of the vagina.

Some doctors do it in all in one..but many doctors prefer the two step method.

[amberskyi]

um you want to have both a cock and pussy??? uh

[Protoman2050@gmail.com]

um you want to have both a cock and pussy??? uh

It's not possible, obviously, but if it was....yeah, I'm a bit of a weirdo.

I feel fine with the parts I was born with. As long as I get a nice career, nice friends, and pass, I'll be happy.

[bluesoul]

um you want to have both a cock and pussy??? uh

with a name like protoman, it makes sense

[Protoman2050@gmail.com]

with a name like protoman, it makes sense

What's that supposed to mean?!...you do realize that I am a transgirl, this has been my email since I was 13, so I sincerely apologize for not having a girly handle.

God, that was offensive.

[RyderMonroe]

I was planning on post op surgery in 2009...went through the counseling and more...

However the doctor told me he couldn't promise me I'll orgasm or if it will look natal (natural)....

That freaked me out some, so I decided to hold off.

And FYI guys when they do SRS they filet the penis...cut it in half down the middle.

And use the scrotal skin and the penis to make the vagina.....

And I've seen many guys go off what they see in post op porn...when a lot of those times..the girl obviously could only afford the first step of surgery..

There are two parts making the vagina. The first step is creating the holes/connecting the nerve endings/pee hole etc and the second part is doing the hood of the vagina.

Some doctors do it in all in one..but many doctors prefer the two step method.

what doc did u see?

[irradiatedd]

thanks for the replies everyone

Quiet Reflections i live in north africa in one of the most homophobic places on the planet. as far as i know there are no doctors here who perform gender reassignment surgery (that is what it's called right?). and even if there were, the amount of discrimination a tg person would endure...i wouldnt wish it on anyone.

anyway, the reason i asked this question is because i want to know if there are many women out there who are perfectly content with having a penis, and would choose it over having a vagina. i'm not getting the sense that such women are very common

[sukumvit boy]

Welcome,Irradiatedd.
Good questions.
I would like to know what percentage of transgender women WANT TO KEEP THEIR PENIS. You should take a poll. I guess we should first do a search and see if such a poll
already exhists.?

[nysprod]

someone told me once that most chicks with dicks aim to have their penises removed eventually. then i recently read something about yasmin lee planning to remove hers later in her life (which made me sad). i just want to know from the girls who frequent these boards, are your dongs just temporary?

My dear boy, everything is temporary...

[MrsKellyPierce]

what doc did u see?
Meltzer

[robertlouis]

It's not a removal of the penis and it's quite transphobic to refer to it as such.we don't get it cut off, chopped or any of the other silly ways you guys describe it.

Sense as always Amber. You're the Oprah of HA!

[SAMiAM9872]

Kelly and Ryder NOOOOOOO!

[robertlouis]

The fact that so many guys refer to SRS as "chopping off the dick" or some such offensive comment only emphasises the shallowness of their attitudes towards ts women.

And don't moan when a girl has SRS - wish her luck and celebrate the fulfilment of her femininity. They're human beings, in case you'd forgotten.

[irradiatedd]

eh? when did i say anything about chopping dicks off? and regarding shallow attitudes, i must admit that my interest in ts girls is just sexual, just as my interest in all women. i'm not sure why that is a bad thing, as long as one is honest about his intentions with his sexual partners. and just because my interest in someone is purely physical does not mean that i treat them with disrespect or like they are 'less than human' like you are suggesting.

can't i wish her luck and moan about it at the same time?

[robertlouis]

eh? when did i say anything about chopping dicks off? and regarding shallow attitudes, i must admit that my interest in ts girls is just sexual, just as my interest in all women. i'm not sure why that is a bad thing, as long as one is honest about his intentions with his sexual partners. and just because my interest in someone is purely physical does not mean that i treat them with disrespect or like they are 'less than human' like you are suggesting.

can't i wish her luck and moan about it at the same time?

I wasn't popping at you at all. It's just that in general the vocabulary guys on here use when discussing SRS is frankly pretty damn offensive and it pisses me off. End of mini-rant lol.

[Remy757Photog]

I want to have GRS one day and the only thing holding me back is the financial aspects. It's a very personal decision that each individual makes for their own reasons.

A pussy and cock, that sounds a bit fetish inspired... To each their own I guess *shrugs*

[amberskyi]

eh? when did i say anything about chopping dicks off? and regarding shallow attitudes, i must admit that my interest in ts girls is just sexual, just as my interest in all women. i'm not sure why that is a bad thing, as long as one is honest about his intentions with his sexual partners. and just because my interest in someone is purely physical does not mean that i treat them with disrespect or like they are 'less than human' like you are suggesting.

can't i wish her luck and moan about it at the same time?

no..you didnt say anything about chopping it off but you did say "removing their junk" which may not be offensive in and of itself but is still incorrect.
i also dont remember you saying anything about congratulating her or wishing her the best.
the fact of the matter is that getting gender reassignment is a reality for many trans woman.we didnt grow up wishing to be shemales or chicks with cocks but females.
so lets just stop the whining and groaning.just move to the next hot chick with a tool.its pretty much what yall do anyway.the new it girl shows up and its all about her lol

[fred41]

Did someone say junk removal?

[flabbybody]

I find "removing their junk" an offensive way of saying SRS.
I know girls who had it done and I've stayed friends with them. But honestly, the sex thing doesn't work for me once they're post-op.

You're so right Amber..... guys here try to be supportive but most of us are just waiting for the next round of cock pics.

[MsDazzler]

Also, I've found out that the longer one is on hormones, the increasing likelihood that she will prefer to get SRS, even if she might have set out being against SRS...

Because, first of all, estrogen is a powerful sex hormone and over time, it does alter the brain's chemistry and the penis increasingly becomes at odds at what the brain perceives as being a "woman".... as testosterone wanes, the feeling of having a penis becomes disconnected. It is hard to explain to a bio man/woman this... any other Tgirl can vouch for this?

I have been on hormones for a year and 2 months now... and when I first started, SRS was the furthest thing from my mind, but now, it is slowly creeping up onto me as my brain begins to disconnect from having a penis and start to perceive my genitala as a pussy...

And there is the practical semnatics as well... hormones do make it much harder to "function", even for those lucky trans women who still CAN get it up (including me), and one of the factors contributing to the intensity of the "male" orgasm is the volume of ejaculate, or semen.

Once your semen have pretty much dried up and all you are shooting is clear jewels from your prostate/Cowpers, the intensity of your orgasm is much, much neutered because the amount/volume of your ejaculate has been drastically reduced to almost nothing.

Then your desire to keep the "male" orgasm further becomes diminished and all of sudden SRS does not seem so quite alien.

Hope this all made sense in some way. LOL

[francisfkudrow]

In the OP's defense, if you told a regular guy "don't worry, we won't remove your dick, we'll just filet and invert it", he'd still be like :hide-1: , and the distinction would probably be lost on him.

[giovanni_hotel]

WHy don't you wait until you're actually in a LTR with a transwoman, that way you all can have a meaningful discussion about what both of you want going forward.

I would think if a preop TS was in a relationship with a man who was quite content with her current genitals, there might not be that urgency to get SRS done.

The OP needs to remember most true TS feel on some level they were born in the wrong bodies, and if they could magically become GG, there would be no TS/TG anymore.

ANyway there are enough tgirls out here who are settled with the current genitals as they are there's no real reason for a dude to worry about it.

[jamiethewild]

Am chopping it in half no matter how it looks or if i lose sensation ... of course in the future with the best research of course...

[natina]

YES IT IS

IT WAS POSTED HERE LAST MONTH


behold the cock and vagina


http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=73279



um you want to have both a cock and pussy??? uh

[cassieukts]

I can pretty much agree with what MsDazzler has said. I have been on hrt for over a year. I am permanently limp and what I do have has shrunk a lot. I have posted pics of this here previously. The longer I am on hormones the stronger the desire to get rid of it and have srs and be a complete woman or as complete as i can be.

[Jericho]

Yah...Otherwise there flats get full of shite!

[irradiatedd]

thnks for the replies everyone, i think i'm starting to understand. i just find it strange and interesting that SO many people are attracted to women with penises, and yet there doesnt seem to be many who actually want to BE women with penises. it doesnt really make sense. no wonder so many tgirls feel objectified. i suppose i might feel the same way if people were attracted to something about me that i never wanted in the first place

[BellaBellucci]

It's not junk. It's recyclable material.

~BB~

[RallyCola]

It's not junk. It's recyclable material.

~BB~

i've always maintained that we should transplant unwanted penises to F2M transmen or at least to chinese men since their wangs are so small and they could stand a bit of an upgrade

[MsDazzler]

I can pretty much agree with what MsDazzler has said. I have been on hrt for over a year. I am permanently limp and what I do have has shrunk a lot. I have posted pics of this here previously. The longer I am on hormones the stronger the desire to get rid of it and have srs and be a complete woman or as complete as i can be.

I am glad someone understand! :party: I was not sure if my post was too ambigious or something...

Basically, it becomes totally pointless to have a nonfunctoning genitalia just "hanging out" there, making some certain things in life difficult, like going to the beach or whatever. Then SRS just becomes more of a "practical" option for even those who didn't want SRS in the first place.

[MsDazzler]

i've always maintained that we should transplant unwanted penises to F2M transmen or at least to chinese men since their wangs are so small and they could stand a bit of an upgrade

lol, watch the racist remarks

[MsDazzler]

YES IT IS

IT WAS POSTED HERE LAST MONTH


behold the cock and vagina


http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=73279

techincally, that is not even a pussy.. it is just a hole punched through the scrotum, lol.

If you really, realyl wanted to... you COULD imagine it as a pussy with giant/inflated lips and an enormous clitoris, lol.

But I don't.

[irradiatedd]

is it possible to experience sexual pleasure post op?

[MsDazzler]

Yes, but YMMV, though...

Like I mentioned earlier, even pre-op trans women's orgasms eventually decreases in intensity and pleasure over years of being on hormones due to diminishing testosterone and the amount/volume of ejaculate to the point where it is actually WORK to just get off for a negiligble orgasm.

Then gradually.... SRS with its promise of a "female" orgasm, even if it is not 100% guaranteed, becomes more and more attractive because the "male" orgasm has virtually but disappeared, anyway.

My orgasms have changed radically over the 14 months I have been on hormones, even though I still can get it up (albeit with a LOT of work... and still cannot keep it up if not constantly manually stimulated). I also think a huge part of it has to do with the brain, as well. Because the brain perceives my genitalia as a pussy, it is sending different signals than it did before when it perceived it as a penis.

For example, in straight porn, it was a little difficult for me to imagine being the woman having her pussy penetrated. But now, it is a whole lot easier to do it and even visualize/conjure up sensations of being penetrated down there even if I don't have a pussy yet.

[irradiatedd]

i see. if you dont mind my saying, it seems a little odd that so many ts frequent a site called hung angels, yet they percieve the 'hung' part of their bodies as a burden they would rather do without

[LibertyHarkness]

alot of ts on here are pornstars/escorts that are working in the sex industry to fund their surgeries .. hence they are on here to promote their sites/camshows/escort details etc ...

[MsDazzler]

i see. if you dont mind my saying, it seems a little odd that so many ts frequent a site called hung angels, yet they percieve the 'hung' part of their bodies as a burden they would rather do without

I think the creator of this site was Sean (I dunno if that is his real name), so you might ask him why he chose that name.

I suspect it it is because it is just a marketing gimmick, designed to attract the TRUE TARGET - you MEN who come here lusting over cocks on women. lol

[LibertyHarkness]

hungangels is a porn promotion site .. for promotion of porn..escorts, camming etc ..

its an outlet for fans to speak with models/workers etc, each other about sex related stuff to the TS niche ...

If people wanted sensible serious conversations about transitioning etc, medical issues etc they would be on a non porn related TS Site ..thoughj occassionaly you do get the odd serious chat here,. but its far and few between ..

The average person on this site just wants to jack off to tranny porn :)

I use this site soley as a means of marketing and abit of light interaction with models/peers/fans that is all ..the moment i can no longer market,make money from this site is the time i stop using it .. much like most ts models would .

[MsDazzler]

Also, I just had an interesting conversation with a trans woman who I just met and made friends with...

She said, "I want to keep my cock and do not want SRS."

Me: "Are you on hormones?"

She: "Yes, I have been on it for two months now."

I go explain to her what I just told you in two posts. Now she is beginning to realize that two months is still a very short time, and she might change her feelings about SRS in a year or two once her orgasms, ability to get and stay erect, and ejaculate becomes diminished.

[MsDazzler]

alot of ts on here are pornstars/escorts that are working in the sex industry to fund their surgeries .. hence they are on here to promote their sites/camshows/escort details etc ...

Most trans women you see in porn who can stay erect are the lucky ones or have been cycing their hormones on or off.... or twink boys who just happened to be feminine looking (thanks to their youthful apperances) and got implants and just grew out their hair.

[LibertyHarkness]

most ts porn use viagra . i know as i have to so i can get erect ..and all TS models i shoot for companies i give them viagra to take bfore shooting .

i have been on hormones since 2008 ..

[irradiatedd]

so not a single woman here would choose having a penis over a vagina?

[LibertyHarkness]

some ts are happy with being pre op .. i know many TS that will happily stay preop ..equally i know many that will go post op once the time suits,

[amberskyi]

so not a single woman here would choose having a penis over a vagina?

i think youll find a few would op out of the surgery (for whatever reasons) but youll be hard pressed to find a ts who given the choice would choose being a chick with a dick over being a gg.
you have to really understand what being a transsexual woman means.we spent most of our lives feeling like we were born in the wrong body.we grew up wanting to be woman (like our sisters,mothers,cousins,friends,etc) and not understanding why we werent.these feelings start at childhood when most kids become aware of gender and the differences between the too.your not 5 or 6 thinking 'oh youll know what will be fun? having tits and a penis',your like why does my shit hang out and my sisters doesnt ;( lol

[irradiatedd]

youll be hard pressed to find a ts who given the choice would choose being a chick with a dick over being a gg.

ts porn is extremely popular, which means that a significant number of people (mostly men, i would guess) are attracted to the idea of a woman with a penis. yet if the above statement is true, it would seem that one of the gods is playing some kind of perverse joke on people

[amberskyi]

ts porn is extremely popular, which means that a significant number of people (mostly men, i would guess) are attracted to the idea of a woman with a penis. yet if the above statement is true, it would seem that one of the gods is playing some kind of perverse joke on people

lol or your failing to get what most men havet since the beginning of the human race...woman (ts or not) dont exist solely as an extension of your sexuality.
its not a joke,its life ;)

[giovanni_hotel]

Just for functionality, it would seem to make more sense for a preop transwoman to cycle her HRT instead of being on a indefinite regimen. Just thinking out loud.

[ARMANIXXX]

It's not junk. It's recyclable material.

~BB~

One man's junk is another mans......


















Nevermind.

[Dino Velvet]

Just thinking out load.

That would be many people's priority.

[tvkim]

No way.... I love mine too much!

Plus it's something to play with ... when there is nothing good on telly!

[LibertyHarkness]

i have cycled hormones in past ... but i dont anymore i am only in interested in my transitioning so if my dick dont get hard all the time and i cant cum much anymore then so be it .. people can simply not watch/buy my porn if it bothers them that much ....

With webcamming i never cum on cam anyway so its irrelevant on that ... escorting is also a 50/50 area .. if people only want to see me for 30min then i tell them i will never cum ever .. if they want an hour then i will try my best to cum for them ..but these days if a potential clients is a thirsty cock gobbler wanting to drink spunk then i tell them to just book a different escort rather than me as i cant promise that lol seems to work easier for me that way .. then i just guys that want to kiss/cuddle get cozy bang my asshole and just pop on my tits . winner :)

[ARMANIXXX]

lol or your failing to get what most men havet since the beginning of the human race...woman (ts or not) dont exist solely as an extension of your sexuality.
its not a joke,its life ;)



Lies.

;)

[amberskyi]

Just for functionality, it would seem to make more sense for a preop transwoman to cycle her HRT instead of being on a indefinite regimen. Just thinking out loud.

yes but in the long run it isnt good for your health or her transition in general.what happens is every time you stop your cycle your body is going to actually produce more testosterone than normal in order to get the body back to its natural (which is male) hormone levels

[giovanni_hotel]

So what's the deal with girls in TS porn who can get hard and shoot?
Are most of the Brasilian TS porn actors not on 'mones??

[Dino Velvet]

No way.... I love mine too much!

Plus it's something to play with ... when there is nothing good on telly!

Here's a message from Telly.

:fuckin:

http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/64/4a122881cd88443093a80cd22976a7fe/l.jpg

[LibertyHarkness]

nahhh depends on levels of hormones, duration of hormones .. whether cycled ,, etc some ts are not on hormoens in porn . many are .. as mentioend many will onyl take estrogen and not blockers .. the blockers are what really fuck your erections up and cumshots ..

[amberskyi]

So what's the deal with girls in TS porn who can get hard and shoot?
Are most of the Brasilian TS porn actors not on 'mones??

im on hormones,have been for a few years now but i still get hard (i wank pretty often lol *sigh* single life).however i dont produce sperm or much seminal fluid anymore.
im guessing the girls who pop probably either take very low dosages,cycle on and off or just dont take hormones at all.i once stopped taking hormones last year for like two or three months and i still didnt get my jizz back :( lol..been on hormones for too long

[Remy757Photog]

Having an orgasm isn't an issue for me and I've been on hormones consistently for years, now ejaculation is not happening at all, but not necessary for an orgasm.

There is no point in a non sex industry pre op cycling their hormone regiment.

[ARMANIXXX]

im on hormones,have been for a few years now but i still get hard (i wank pretty often lol *sigh* single life).however i dont produce sperm or much seminal fluid anymore.
im guessing the girls who pop probably either take very low dosages,cycle on and off or just dont take hormones at all.i once stopped taking hormones last year for like two or three months and i still didnt get my jizz back :( lol..been on hormones for too long

Question,
and Don't trip if you can't answer.....I may have to ask one of my friends...

But since we're on the subject.....

Say if you've been taking hormones since you were 16 or 17 until the age of 25 or 26, and then stop. Would you get your sperm load back in the next 6 or 7 years when you're 32 or so?

[amberskyi]

Question,
and Don't trip if you can't answer.....I may have to ask one of my friends...

But since we're on the subject.....

Say if you've been taking hormones since you were 16 or 17 until the age of 25 or 26, and then stop. Would you get your sperm load back in the next 6 or 7 years when you're 32 or so?

I don't think it works that way.after long term use sterility is a permanent side effect.

[irradiatedd]

lol or your failing to get what most men havet since the beginning of the human race...woman (ts or not) dont exist solely as an extension of your sexuality.
its not a joke,its life ;)

yeah well the difference is that with GGs (or even gay men) most of them dont want to alter the very thing that makes men attracted to them. with TSs on the other hand...

i dunno, seems like a joke to me

[cassieukts]

nope it wont come back especially after 7 years. a year can be enough for sterility. i cant remember what an erection is like as its been so long since i could get one

[irradiatedd]

tvkim are you taking hormones? if so, how long have you been on them?

it looks like the hormones play a part in making ts women reject their penis

[Quiet Reflections]

ts porn is extremely popular, which means that a significant number of people (mostly men, i would guess) are attracted to the idea of a woman with a penis. yet if the above statement is true, it would seem that one of the gods is playing some kind of perverse joke on people
There are no gods, if there were why would they be so cruel as to put women in mens bodies. There is science and science is very unpredictable sometimes. All that aside, I think that a lot of those men that you speak of are attracted to penis and the female attached is just a super convenient way to not have to deal with their sexuality head on. I find that a good amount of guys I know that like TG porn have never experienced being with TG and never will because they view them as a fetish or a dirty secret. I also find that a good bit of them end up just being gay in the long run, which is something most TG girls don't want to deal with since they are by most standards straight women(in male bodies) looking for straight guys.

[Quiet Reflections]

nope it wont come back especially after 7 years. a year can be enough for sterility. i cant remember what an erection is like as its been so long since i could get one
they really just make you spend to much money and say silly shit to ladies

[ARMANIXXX]

I don't think it works that way.after long term use sterility is a permanent side effect.


So you're positive that it's permanent?

[amberskyi]

yeah well the difference is that with GGs (or even gay men) most of them dont want to alter the very thing that makes men attracted to them. with TSs on the other hand...

i dunno, seems like a joke to me

Didn't we cover this already lol.there are reasons why we want to alter our bodies..mainly cause we don't want to be men.can't get any simpler than that.class dismissed lol

[jamesedwards]

I'm an MTF transsexual, and I plan on keeping my penis as a) the inversion surgery is really, really painful, with a lot of post-op maintenance, b) really, really expensive, with a LOT to go wrong, c) I like peeing standing, d) nobody cares what's between your legs, and most importantly e) I don't need a pussy to be a girl.

You can pee sitting down, heck we do it when we do the number 2. Standing up peeing is not something to be proud of, piss splashing everywhere like a beast approaching the porcelain.

I definitely don't if a TGirl is fine and keeps her cock, I am happily and willing to stimulate it and make it cum. I love to watch cum skeet out of a TGirls cock. I love it with a passion

[Donkey]

So you're positive that it's permanent?
Mia Fever is just one example of a TS who had been on hormones for many years and was still able to impregnate a female.

Also, some male bodybuilders, especially professionals, take huge doses of hormones for years at a time without cycling. Usually, they are sterile while on, but after going off, many are able to father children.

[irradiatedd]

@quiet reflections

is that right? i dont think that makes sense. there is quite a difference between being attracted to a ts and being attracted to a man.

of course i can only speak only for myself. for the majority of my life i've been attracted to women with pussies. i still am as a matter of fact. but then at some point i came across some animated futa porn which piqued my interest. you see i get very turned on when i see aroused women. there is nothing that drives me more crazy than putting my hand in between a woman's legs and find her already dripping.

with visual stimuli like porn though, there is no way to tell if a woman's truly aroused. but with women who have dicks, not only is the proof of their arousal quite evident, but i can relate closely to what that arousal feels like since i have a dick of my own, whereas i have no clue what it feels like to have a turned on vagina

i've never had any confusion regarding the fact that i am attracted to woman. i love everything about them; their breasts, their butts, their lips, the softness of their skin when you touch it. if i had any attraction toward men i would not be in denial about. despite having been raised in a bigoted culture i see nothing wrong with being gay, and i would readily admit it if i was one.

as a matter of fact, if anyone in my country knew that i like women with dicks they would think i was gay anyway, and i'd be treated like any other "fag" who likes men. so you see, if i were attracted to men it would not make sense to deny it to myself

[amberskyi]

Mia Fever is just one example of a TS who had been on hormones for many years and was still able to impregnate a female.

Also, some male bodybuilders, especially professionals, take huge doses of hormones for years at a time without cycling. Usually, they are sterile while on, but after going off, many are able to father children.

So you personally know her hormone regime? What are her doses and how often does she take them? At what age did she start taking them? All those are factors that has to be taken into consideration.

[irradiatedd]

Didn't we cover this already lol.there are reasons why we want to alter our bodies..mainly cause we don't want to be men.can't get any simpler than that.class dismissed lol

i understand perfectly that you have valid reasons for wanting the things that you do, and actually that is where the joke part comes in. some sadistic deity puts a person in the wrong body, forcing them to transform themselves, while at the same time he makes a whole lot of other people attracted to the very thing that is causing problems for said person

that doesnt seem like a joke to you?

[Protoman2050@gmail.com]

some ts are happy with being pre op .. i know many TS that will happily stay preop ..equally i know many that will go post op once the time suits,

I'd probably go post-op if...not sure. I was dead-set against SRS pre-HRT, but now's more like 4:1 odds against me getting penile inversion at some point in the future, after I get whatever cosmetic surgeries I need and want.

[BellaBellucci]

tvkim are you taking hormones? if so, how long have you been on them?

Seriously?! :lol: :lol: :lol:

~BB~

[ARMANIXXX]

Seriously?! :lol: :lol: :lol:

~BB~

What.....

Why can't he ask?
Let him find out.
lol

[Protoman2050@gmail.com]

i understand perfectly that you have valid reasons for wanting the things that you do, and actually that is where the joke part comes in. some sadistic deity puts a person in the wrong body, forcing them to transform themselves, while at the same time he makes a whole lot of other people attracted to the very thing that is causing problems for said person

that doesnt seem like a joke to you?

I get it, it's funny in a morbid way. My penis...it's...there I guess, don't really care one way or the other, although would like it to remain un-injured, so I can either have a *somewhat* functioning penis, or have SRS.

[Quiet Reflections]

@quiet reflections

is that right? i dont think that makes sense. there is quite a difference between being attracted to a ts and being attracted to a man.

of course i can only speak only for myself. for the majority of my life i've been attracted to women with pussies. i still am as a matter of fact. but then at some point i came across some animated futa porn which piqued my interest. you see i get very turned on when i see aroused women. there is nothing that drives me more crazy than putting my hand in between a woman's legs and find her already dripping.

with visual stimuli like porn though, there is no way to tell if a woman's truly aroused. but with women who have dicks, not only is the proof of their arousal quite evident, but i can relate closely to what that arousal feels like since i have a dick of my own, whereas i have no clue what it feels like to have a turned on vagina

i've never had any confusion regarding the fact that i am attracted to woman. i love everything about them; their breasts, their butts, their lips, the softness of their skin when you touch it. if i had any attraction toward men i would not be in denial about. despite having been raised in a bigoted culture i see nothing wrong with being gay, and i would readily admit it if i was one.

as a matter of fact, if anyone in my country knew that i like women with dicks they would think i was gay anyway, and i'd be treated like any other "fag" who likes men. so you see, if i were attracted to men it would not make sense to deny it to myself
No I don't see because people will tell themselves anything to make it through the day. Again not all men are like that but a lot are. You, myself, anyone reading this, it might not be the case but don't for a second fool yourself into thinking that every guy that likes TG's are just into them and GG's. Without knowing the numbers it is all just speculation but I would bet anything that more than half of men into TG's are also into men in some way. If you are here long enough you will notice how many of the bottom men here also go for men. Nobody is calling you gay, It is however a HUGE part of this community and a lot of the admirers of the girls are and their love of the penis is easier for them and the public at large to swallow(get it!) when it comes with a set of tits.

[amberskyi]

Lol actually the last guy i was talking to admitted that he was into feminine guys as well, on a night that i was taking him to a gay club.i also suspect he fooled around with a guy that night.
I need a vagina now! Hahaha

[Brandi Boots]

uuummm...no

fast enough?

[irradiatedd]

Seriously?! :lol: :lol: :lol:

~BB~

eh?


uuummm...no

care to elaborate on that?

[jennylicious]

Lol actually the last guy i was talking to admitted that he was into feminine guys as well, on a night that i was taking him to a gay club.i also suspect he fooled around with a guy that night.
I need a vagina now! Hahaha

A good man is hard to find, but a hard man is can be found without excessive effort.

(WHY WILL THIS THREAD NOT DIE, THE TITLE STILL ANNOYS ME)

[giovanni_hotel]

It's the two major fucked up paradoxes for any man into TS.

The first one is that generally speaking many TS aren't initially attracted to or interested in men who are into them because they are TS. Many tgirlsl have the fantasy of being stealth, dating a regular dude and then telling him they're TS and hopefully he'll understand.

I think this attitude is slowly beginning to change, but it' still out there. Many TS look down on men into TS because IMO many tgirls look down upon themselves.

The 2nd paradox is that we men love TS women who ultimately want to change that part of themselves that make them unique.

I remember back in the day I used to mess with a GG who had an H cup. I was in heaven. Until she told me she was planning to get a breast reduction because of her back issues. I didn't like he just for her bewbies, but I just couldn't wrap my mind around her getting a reduction.

IRL all of this is so much more complicated than the porn fantasy.

[irradiatedd]

i dont have a problem with a moderator changing the title if it bothers anyone

although is it really that annoying? is it the words 'remove' and 'junk' you have a problem with?

i have junk too, so it's not specifically a ts term, is it? why is that offensive?

[cassieukts]

no it isnt just the wording.. you appear to be a tool

[irradiatedd]

no it isnt just the wording.. you appear to be a tool

umm...ok

[fred41]

No I don't see because people will tell themselves anything to make it through the day. Again not all men are like that but a lot are. You, myself, anyone reading this, it might not be the case but don't for a second fool yourself into thinking that every guy that likes TG's are just into them and GG's. Without knowing the numbers it is all just speculation but I would bet anything that more than half of men into TG's are also into men in some way. If you are here long enough you will notice how many of the bottom men here also go for men. Nobody is calling you gay, It is however a HUGE part of this community and a lot of the admirers of the girls are and their love of the penis is easier for them and the public at large to swallow(get it!) when it comes with a set of tits.

It seems a lot of guys who find themselves attracted to transsexuals (whether on this site or not) often make themselves feel better by saying "I'm not gay because I don't like men.The thought of a masculine hairy guy turns me off (or makes me sick to my stomach)".....but you will note that they never say 'I also don't like the hairless, effeminate twinks in the gay circuit..and could be never be turned on by them'.
...the reality in porn and the escort circuit, as most people who have been here a while know is...a lot of the talent is shaved down guys wearing wigs...and sometimes it's more obvious than guys are willing to admit to themselves. Not everyone of course..but some...definitely more than a few.
Are they gay?
No they are not.
..but they aren't completely straight either...perhaps bisexual...with a specific taste.
..and then I'm sure a select few are "just" gay...and that is the only way they could travel that road I guess.

P.S....I almost forgot about the guys into TS because they also want to be TS.

[Protoman2050@gmail.com]

P.S....I almost forgot about the guys into TS because they also want to be TS.

That was me a few months ago.

[wiltthestilt]

It seems a lot of guys who find themselves attracted to transsexuals (whether on this site or not) often make themselves feel better by saying "I'm not gay because I don't like men.The thought of a masculine hairy guy turns me off (or makes me sick to my stomach)".....but you will note that they never say 'I also don't like the hairless, effeminate twinks in the gay circuit..and could be never be turned on by them'.
...the reality in porn and the escort circuit, as most people who have been here a while know is...a lot of the talent is shaved down guys wearing wigs...and sometimes it's more obvious than guys are willing to admit to themselves. Not everyone of course..but some...definitely more than a few.
Are they gay?
No they are not.
..but they aren't completely straight either...perhaps bisexual...with a specific taste.
..and then I'm sure a select few are "just" gay...and that is the only way they could travel that road I guess.

P.S....I almost forgot about the guys into TS because they also want to be TS.

Sexuality is a continuum and we all fall somewhere along the continuum. I think your summary is well done. At some level I probably am bisexual but I define myself as straight. Why do I do that? Well, I think it better approximates my sexuality. Back when I was under 25 and hard like half the the day, I cant remember one instance that I was turned on by another man. I got hard for women hourly including inopportune times like gym class and once during a trust building exercise for an extracurricular in which a girl sat on my lap. To this day Ive never gotten hard or masturbated thinking about a man I knew in real life.

I am attracted to Anderson Brooks's pics. Would I want to harpoon him in real life? I really dont know. I would probably depend how he was dressed; my mood that day; and whether I had a drink or two ( which I do even for gg escorts).

A bisexual to me is someone who is strongly attracted to both sexes. Someone who would go to crowded beach and find several members of each sex attractive. Some who has at leasr fooled around with members of both sexes who were not transgendered. I dont know if that is reality for many bisexuals or not. But that is why I define myself as straight.

[jamiethewild]

A dick with boobs looks out of place and its a fetish....

So SRS is the way to go ... Any guy that finds me through a fag venue better expect to pay or expect no to be taken seriously unless very rarely there's something about you that i like ....

No, SRS it's not a doorway to be more woman but to be and feel complete, comfortable and have freedom.... Fuck yeah....

Props for the gals that work and love their dick...


I think its funny to me how most consumers of TS want TS a certain way ...

BUT

Most TS want to live a normal life... includes men, sex.

Life is funny ...

[ARMANIXXX]

It seems a lot of guys who find themselves attracted to transsexuals (whether on this site or not) often make themselves feel better by saying "I'm not gay because I don't like men.The thought of a masculine hairy guy turns me off (or makes me sick to my stomach)".....but you will note that they never say 'I also don't like the hairless, effeminate twinks in the gay circuit..and could be never be turned on by them'.
...the reality in porn and the escort circuit, as most people who have been here a while know is...a lot of the talent is shaved down guys wearing wigs...and sometimes it's more obvious than guys are willing to admit to themselves. Not everyone of course..but some...definitely more than a few.
Are they gay?
No they are not.
..but they aren't completely straight either...perhaps bisexual...with a specific taste.
..and then I'm sure a select few are "just" gay...and that is the only way they could travel that road I guess.

P.S....I almost forgot about the guys into TS because they also want to be TS.

I can't really get down with that.

I'm not interested in part time/CD/TV/ or effeminate boys.

I like women, many different types of women, and to me that includes TS women, but full time TS women.

I can't get down with men.
But you're right....alot of guys here don't care.

As a matter of fact, I remember running a poll, a few years ago, on that subject for personal info and enlightenment.

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=31494

[jamiethewild]

I can't really get down with that.

I'm not interested in part time/CD/TV/ or effeminate boys.

I like women, many different types of women, and to me that includes TS women, but full time TS women.

I can't get down with men.
But you're right....alot of guys here don't care.

As a matter of fact, I remember running a poll, a few years ago, on that subject for personal info and enlightenment.

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=31494

WOW , thats pretty gay lol Your poll explains a lot what this gay mofos are into ... Some of them could be child molesters...

[fred41]

I can't really get down with that.

I'm not interested in part time/CD/TV/ or effeminate boys.



when you say "not interested"...do you mean for one night (maybe a couple of hours) of sex...or more than that...?
..also, if you don't mind saying,...how did you vote in the poll?

[ARMANIXXX]

when you say "not interested"...do you mean for one night (maybe a couple of hours) of sex...or more than that...?
..also, if you don't mind saying,...how did you vote in the poll?


lol

I don't know what "not interested" means to you, Fred, but where I'm from not interested means not interested.



And Of course I voted full time in the poll.

[MsDazzler]

Amberyle.... you totally rock! :Bowdown:

[fred41]

lol

I don't know what "not interested" means to you, Fred, but where I'm from not interested means not interested.



And Of course I voted full time in the poll.

lol...I'll take you at your word.


(that means very early transition TS is out of the question for you too I take it?)

[irradiatedd]

this bump is dedicated to cassieukts :kiss:

[MrsKellyPierce]

Why is there incessant need to label men gay/bi who want to be with a trans woman who hasn't gone through surgery?

Many girls don't go through surgery due to the risk involved.

Doesn't make her less of a woman.

I *shake my head* at the idea you are better/more female because you have a vagina.

I think the greatest benefit of "passability" is that instance of gratification where no one looks at you strange or questions the woman in you. Where you don't have to explain who you are inside or make someone understand.. The feeling of you are just "you" is probably one of the greatest feelings in anyone's transition..so many go on a beauty pageant spree or vanity..we get lost in it. Then forget the ones still in the beginning stages and forget they want to feel the same way we do. So instead of looking at similarities we focus on the dissimilarities of who is more passable and who is less. At the end of the day we all want to be accepted as the women we are, whether just starting or had srs. I know insecurity comes into play and it's the reason many girls cut one another down, but just take a moment to think we have similarities. :)

And when you get to that part in your transition of passability it gives you a small glimmer of what it would be like if you were born a female.

But this whole what you have downstairs makes you who you are is crazy to me.

[tsadriana]

Im happy with my junk btw my legs and like Kelly said doesnt make me more or less woman...Plenty real vaginas outthere why will i have one just for design?and i wont risk my health just for a different piece of meat ..anyway its made it from a junk so i will choose my junk insteaD of a fake vagina.You wanmt vagina go for a real one lol

[natina]

here you go

SEE THE SURGERY FOR YOURSELF

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1vKT4JEcDc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWFHTBI6iY8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKuLmcrIJAc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjqlcLCiU2Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKXT-mv9QHE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p26Bhaf7Kl0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVM6r0oL1tk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUpeEBL1zBM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxlzPh2Twps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2ZxlAK4zNw

transsexual dilation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2ZxlAK4zNw

[natina]

Gender Reassignment Surgery Explained Video FTM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2UfVFCnbpA

srs/grs
http://www.drchristinemcginn.com/services/srs/

[giovanni_hotel]

Why is there incessant need to label men gay/bi who want to be with a trans woman who hasn't gone through surgery?

Many girls don't go through surgery due to the risk involved.

Doesn't make her less of a woman.

I *shake my head* at the idea you are better/more female because you have a vagina.

I think the greatest benefit of "passability" is that instance of gratification where no one looks at you strange or questions the woman in you. Where you don't have to explain who you are inside or make someone understand.. The feeling of you are just "you" is probably one of the greatest feelings in anyone's transition..so many go on a beauty pageant spree or vanity..we get lost in it. Then forget the ones still in the beginning stages and forget they want to feel the same way we do. So instead of looking at similarities we focus on the dissimilarities of who is more passable and who is less. At the end of the day we all want to be accepted as the women we are, whether just starting or had srs. I know insecurity comes into play and it's the reason many girls cut one another down, but just take a moment to think we have similarities. :)

And when you get to that part in your transition of passability it gives you a small glimmer of what it would be like if you were born a female.

But this whole what you have downstairs makes you who you are is crazy to me.

Great post Kelly.

[TSCURIOUS]

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