How dangerous is escorting?

[Bunzee]

a friend of mine is thinking of escorting. she's a very intelligent ts woman, but she's recently been laid off and needs money. she lives in LA.

I was wondering how dangerous is escorting? Would be great if some girls who are escorts could chime in. How often do you encounter problems/situations with men, do they ever become violent, etc, etc. thx in advance.

[tvkim]

I would never ever do it. The risk of violence, not to mention catching HIV from a split condom.

[HarajukuDollxoxo]

Also wondering..

[kensterling]

I have been a male escort for over 12 years. The business has been very good to me. We all can be fooled, but if you use your head, advertise in the right places and trust your instincts, you can get through it no problem.Have never had a serious incident. Been weirded out a few times, but never felt threatened. Might be easier for guys, but I have escorted couples, women, men and groups. Don't be desperate for the money, it's easier to use your head and turn down anything that does not feel right. Or walk out too. Just my experience.

[jamiethewild]

The business is not made for everybody. I been on it for 3 yrs. I had some girlfriends that couldn't handle it.
The risks depends on your self-displine, your awareness, where you advertise, your intuition/intelligence, and most important ability to have the looks and be a good actress or actor to make someone cum regardless of what mood your in.

I had never had problems either, so if your careful, health educated, safe, and aware of every movement of what happening than your fine. You/Your friends and environment influence you wether if your going to be an intelligent escort or a drug addict whore.

[jamiethewild]

The only things I notice in escorting in me was un-ability to fall in love easily, I lost my humble personality, and to be a very mean person to men in my life, well only sometimes lol Other than that the biz is good, do it while you can it makes you smarter person in some ways ....

[Nikka]

u can ask Adriella Vendramine about it

[ARMANIXXX]

u can ask Adriella Vendramine about it


Who?

[tsadriana]

Escorting its only for who can handle it...Its not easy to meet strangers but in the end you know why you doing it...Of course some of had terible experience like the girl from the last year who was beaten and end up in coma....

[Rusty Eldora]

a friend of mine is thinking of escorting. she's a very intelligent ts woman, but she's recently been laid off and needs money. she lives in LA.

I was wondering how dangerous is escorting? Would be great if some girls who are escorts could chime in. How often do you encounter problems/situations with men, do they ever become violent, etc, etc. thx in advance.

In Seattle the gg escorts often associate with a review board and obtain references from others that have seen them. This improves the safety in that you are seeing people that have already seen two escorts.

For TS there are no boards in our area, I think posting on eros vs backpage, having a website, posting rates, and having realistic (and real) pictures would improve safety. I can't confirm this but it seems safer to have appointments by email, so someone plans to see you a day or few days before than someone that had the impulse just an hour before. Also that approach would tend to draw repeat customers.

I know 2 gg escorts that have done it for over 20 years and they love the work. However, many stop just a few months in. So it can be good if it fits your personality.

[littletwink]

Cam is easier, cheaper, and a lot safer. I would start there before I even thought about escorting.

[dante]

Who?

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=70882

[Genetic]

I wouldn't recommend it. Horrible hours, constant threat of violence and you're generally going to get treated like a piece of meat, and be spoken to accordingly. A lot of the girls get into alcohol or drugs in order to cope with the job and it starts a downward spiral.

While escorts and porn stars will tell you how much they love it and how much money they make, the reality is actually very different.

[Tyler___Durden]

I would never ever do it. The risk of violence, not to mention catching HIV from a split condom.

PEP (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-exposure_prophylaxis)


Split condoms
This is extremely rare but can happen.
If you are not 100% sure of the sexual history of your partner
You are strongly urged to go to an A&E or a GUM clinic
& to request a course of Post Exposure Prophylaxis, PEP,
(the ANTI HIV/AIDS DRUG TREATMENT)
PEP:
Post = After
Exposure = a situation where HIV has a chance to get into someone’s bloodstream
Prophylaxis = a treatment to stop an infection happening

http://www.pep.chapsonline.org.uk/pep_basics.htm
PEP is effective up to 72 hours after assault, but PEP is MOST EFFECTIVE if, started within 4 hours of exposure.
The anti-viral drug course lasts 28 days & consists of three tablets taken 4 times a day.
So PEP is …
A treatment to stop a person becoming infected with HIV after it’s got into their body.
But if HIV’s in the body isn’t it too late and the person’s now infected?
No. After HIV gets in someone’s bloodstream it takes time (hours or a few days) before it permanently infects them. If someone acts in that short time they stand a chance of stopping HIV before the infection takes hold.
How could the infection be stopped?
Taking 2 or 3 anti-HIV drugs everyday for 4 weeks might stop the HIV before it gets a permanent hold in the body. PEP’s not a ‘morning after’ pill that’s taken just once – it’s one month of drugs.
So with PEP someone won’t become HIV positive?
Research seems to show PEP makes infection with HIV a lot less likely. But PEP doesn’t work every time - some people who take it still end up with HIV afterwards. It can fail because some anti-HIV drugs don’t work against some strains of HIV. And it’s more likely to fail if it’s not taken properly or soon enough.


The side effects are very unpleasant, consisting of vomiting
(which MUST NOT OCCUR, so anti nausea tablets will also be issued to you)
insomnia, lethargy, unable to regulate body temperature, diarrhoea, headaches.
These side effects can be severe, but you must complete the 28 day treatment AT ALL COSTS for it to be effective. Remember, the alternative is potentially contracting HIV/AIDS.

Oh, a course of PEP costs the NHS £ Hundreds.
so there is a resistance to issuing it unless there are very good reasons to suspect patient exposure to HIV.
You can also access PEP from a Gum clinic in working hours, or Accident & Emergency any time.
If the staff there express ignorance about PEP's, they are wrong.
Insist on talking to the “Person in charge” as IMMEDIATELY start of treatment is essential.
Don't accept anything the suggestion you to come back another time.
Print this off:
Getting PEP, {UK} official letter to hospitals from the Chief Medical Officer (http://web.archive.org/web/20081121104243/http://www.tht.org.uk/binarylibrary/cmospeprecommendations.pdf)
& hand to the doctor. It give the doctor clear guidelines for the administration to you of a course of PEP.
If you still get nowhere, call 0845 1221 200 they can tell you which hospitals give out PEP.

[Prospero]

An escort friend of mine, now retired, was hospitalized onetime when a client tried to bite her penis off. That's probably an unusual event - but a risk nonetheless.

[Jamie French]

Totally dangerous. I've been escorting for 6 years now... been dead for 3 of those years.

Seriously, the job is a cakewalk if you're not completely buttfuck retarded. Don't walk the streets, don't do drugs and treat anything that even raises your eyebrow the littlest bit as a red flag. 6 years and not one bad experience... gross, embarrassing, tedious? At times, yes. Dangerous. Not in the least.

[Jamie French]

The reality is that all my time belongs to me, I make a ton of cash and I work whenever I please. The reality is what you make of it as an individual. If you're prone to making bad decisions then escorting will taste like shit. Escorting itself is not the bad decision. A decent set of brains will take any venture and turn it into a success... preparing taxes, delivering pizza, selling car parts, cocaine or slinging ass. It's all just a widget so pick the job you have an aptitude for and do your best not to be a complete fuck up about it.

If you've never taken a strangers dick up your ass for cash you really need to pipe down. You're speaking out of turn.


I wouldn't recommend it. Horrible hours, constant threat of violence and you're generally going to get treated like a piece of meat, and be spoken to accordingly. A lot of the girls get into alcohol or drugs in order to cope with the job and it starts a downward spiral.

While escorts and porn stars will tell you how much they love it and how much money they make, the reality is actually very different.

[brickcitybrother]

I read a great story on a lovely little blond girl who was working in IT and heard about escorting. She figured that she already dates and has sex - perhaps doing so for money would work. She spoke to someone in the business and soon started out on her own. With a little modification she found that it worked for her so well that she was making five times her salary ($70k vs $350k) while working on her own hours. She was in Chicago.

I think if you can handle it ... you can make it work without serious safety issues. I think that there are well known procedures that will protect you. One that I heard of and think would be incredibly effective is a certain escort's requirement that any client provide work information (that she will confirm by phone). She said more than home - no one wants a scene at work. When I thought of it, I'd agree 100%.

Either way good luck in this tough economy.

[Prospero]

I reported the one really horrible story that I've heard.Many girls have been robbed. On occasions this site has carried news or worse assaults (including the very occasional murder) Some have been assaulted. Then there is the health risk - minimal if they've got half a brain.

By and large i think boredom might be the biggest danger.

[ARMANIXXX]

The reality is that all my time belongs to me, I make a ton of cash and I work whenever I please. The reality is what you make of it as an individual. If you're prone to making bad decisions then escorting will taste like shit. Escorting itself is not the bad decision. A decent set of brains will take any venture and turn it into a success... preparing taxes, delivering pizza, selling car parts, cocaine or slinging ass. It's all just a widget so pick the job you have an aptitude for and do your best not to be a complete fuck up about it.

If you've never taken a strangers dick up your ass for cash you really need to pipe down. You're speaking out of turn.


Yeah.

I actually agree with you

[tao1kiku]

Can be dangerous, had a friend who was a TG escort, lovely sweet girl, was murdered, whoever killed her was never caught.

[fivekatz]

With very little knowledge of this being on the other side of the equation I would think it wise to first off get tips on the things to do to keep safe and sain.

Things, where to advertise, how to advertise (be up front abut what you won't do, if you are strictly a bottom say so), how to screen (what to watch for in that screen that might suggest LE or bizarre dudes), two call systems to keep control of the client from the start and how to be in charge".

The hobbyist is probably more nervous than the provider in most cases (I was) until you find "regulars". Two call systems and such tend to elevate that IMHO.

My guess would be that it is not for everyone by any means but I have met a few girls who I real enjoyed their company before, during and after and in fact became text friends with them between visits.

In closing I would think getting a mentor would be the best way to get into the business and the most likely route to safety and finding out if the work is for you.

[BigBlackMan]

Don't do it

Escorting is very bad. I hate whores that escort.

[caliuncut]

I've never taken a dick up my ass for cash as Jamie points out, but here's my 2 cents...lol

I definitely think measures can be taken to keep things pretty safe and minimize risks. Here is how one girl I know did it and it worked for her:

1- don't advertise on a trillion websites, answer any and all calls that come your way - Essentially don't open yourself up for easy access for any jackass out there

2- She would advertise modestly, required email or text contact first with a photo of the person. That way if they creeped her out she didn't have to respond.

Putting these simple controls on how she interacted with clients gave her a handle on things. I will state she got less business than some of these 24/7 revolving door girls...but thats a good thing in my opinion. She charged a bit more than your average girl, but she was HOT and gave VERY VERY good service. That allowed her to fly kinda under the radar, not need a million appointments and keep things more in her control.

Also as a sidenote, TER could be great too. Guys get "whitelisted" which means they're vouched for by other escorts.

[giovanni_hotel]

If a girl doesn't have a real good feel for human nature and different personality types, she could get herself into some really hairy situations.

If you can't 'read' people well, IMO you shouldn't escort.

[Kire89]

A Russian GG I was with texted me a few hours after our meeting that she had been robbed by two guys alleging that they wanted to see her together (double penetration). They took her for everything but didn't beat her up luckily. She went back to Russia and will never return. It all comes down to how lucky you are with your clients obviously.

[BellaBellucci]

I've been in the business for 17 years. Know the rules and follow them and you'll be fine. I can't give you a lesson, but suffice it to say, a lot of it is common sense. Don't get greedy and you're sure to stay out of trouble.

Oh, and LMFAO at TVKim thinking he's too good to escort! :dead:

~BB~

[MdR Dave]

6 years and not one bad experience... gross, embarrassing, tedious? At times, yes. Dangerous. Not in the least.

Not a single escorting- related incident that you would consider dangerous?

[Magical Dreamer]

Interesting. . . I've been thinking about entering the business myself. To the girls who do it, what are the best places to advertise?

[loveboof]

I hate whores that escort.

What about whores who don't escort? Or escorts who aren't whores? lol

You hate them too?

[boomer23]

I live in a very rural area, but travel on occasion to large cities on business. these trips are the only chances I get to meet TG's. Because of this, I use escorts found through sites such as Eros, Backpage, and TER. I have had some good experiences and some that are not so good. I have never had any trouble, but everyone needs to understand there are risks involved.

[Jamie French]

No, not one. I would tell you if there were, as a dangerous story is a good story and I'm not one to pass up on telling a good story.


Not a single escorting- related incident that you would consider dangerous?

[kensterling]

Jaimie is on the money. As I said before, done this for 12 years. And I also think it is hard for someone not in the biz to speak on it. But, that is what forums are for, so we will read on.

[Kire89]

Sounds a lot like hubris, no? There are countless incidents of rape, theft and murders where prostitutes are the victims; of streetwalkers and those who operate indoors. You cannot be certain of your clients (other people in general). At least be honest that the occupational hazard is high in spite of your untarnished records.

[amberskyi]

while of course there are risks involved there are things that you can do to minimize the chances of them happening.my last scare was about a year ago (before that it had been quite awhile in which i had any incidents).i had a "client" (in parenthesis cause he had no intentions of paying) pull a knife out on me.i was always a very careful girl who can read people pretty well.i never really had a high incident count but clearly a few tweaks on how i operate could still be made.here are some of the additional changes that i put into affect a year ago:
-i now try to avoid doing incalls out of hotels that have exterior rooms (rooms in which you go straight from the parking lot to the room without having to pass through a lobby). i now feel overly exposed and to accessible in such buildings.
-i dont see clients after midnight
-i only see young clients during the daylight hours
-i dont accept appointments from guys who use an excessive amount of slang.infact i hang up on quite allot of guys because of this.when they start off the conversation with "whats good ma?" the dial tone immediately follows lol
-i no longer do half hour appointments.if you cant afford an hour than chances are your not the type of clientele i want.
-i try to have a friend around while working.so when im doing outcalls my friend waits in the lobby or in their car in the parking lot.or when im doing outcalls my friend waits outside from a discreet but close enough distance.
-i also keep a 'dont pick up' list in my phone.if a client flakes or is weird i put them on said list and no longer accept their phone calls.


due to these rules ive set for myself i havent had any real negative experiences.i recently saw one guy who was a bit weird and a little to gruff.my friend was also a bit creeped out by the neighborhood (apparently allot of moving shadows and people creeping about).so while he was respectful he's now on my list of calls i dont accept

[Kire89]

The potential for wackos is a lot higher in a country that can boast an unsavorily-high population 65 times that of Norway's, I suppose. Precautions are good. Some GGs I have visited had male or female friends in a different room in case of incident. Wouldn't help if they were assaulted by a group of 2 or 3 males either way.

[akduck]

The whole World is wacko right now so its better be safe than sorry.

[Jamie French]

I've suffered grease burns and theft in fast food, layoffs in survey taking, fights with other employees as a CSR, cuts and bruises on construction sites... hell, my brother just lost an arm on his way to a job site as an electrician. All lines of work carry there own inherent risks... worst thing that has ever happened to me during my time as an escort was that I had to spend about an hour with someone who I would not normally hang out with during my free time. Best job I've ever had short of video editing. Horror stories are not a prerequisite or even an eventuality for holding down unconventional jobs. I know what the risks are and I have refined my own set of techniques and defenses against them to great effect. I'm not bragging about some sort of amazing success, only describing the outcome of my approach towards this particular line of work. Not hubris, just a report from the front lines of my own individual experience.


Sounds a lot like hubris, no? There are countless incidents of rape, theft and murders where prostitutes are the victims; of streetwalkers and those who operate indoors. You cannot be certain of your clients (other people in general). At least be honest that the occupational hazard is high in spite of your untarnished records.

[Kire89]

As long as you acknowledge their being your individual experiences that cannot be extrapolated as empirical evidence detailing on intrinstic risks pertinent to the alleged oldest profession in the history of history, it's fine. I like and respect your approach and wish you continued success.

On an unrelated note, there's the occasional occurrence where I wish I was an American, and when visiting this site it's usually when I see your signature picture. It's an ambivalent thought process, because it also reminds me of how simple I am. Asexuality might be a blessing. :)

[VictoriaVeil]

High Risk = High Reward... Just ask Junior Seau. Oh wait, you cant, After repeated head injuries he ended up with a medical condition that caused the NFL Hall of famer to have a depressive episode where he murdered his girlfriend and take his own life.

I'm not advocating one way or another, just pointing out that no matter what the field a person chooses to work in High Risk = High Reward...

[Rusty Eldora]

Jamie - you changed your avatar - It looks cool.


I've suffered grease burns and theft in fast food, layoffs in survey taking, fights with other employees as a CSR, cuts and bruises on construction sites... hell, my brother just lost an arm on his way to a job site as an electrician. All lines of work carry there own inherent risks...

Taxi Drivers and Night Shift 7-11 cashiers get robbed all the time, and they are earning more like $ 12 an hour.

The worlds oldest profession doesn't get listed as hazardous occupations: but fishermen, loggers, and construction workers are. Their average salary is less than $50K a year.

A surf did not find any decent data, some sites listed hazards up around fishermen, but a lot of the stats in other areas looked far off. I would guess it is similar to construction workers.

As with any profession, one must look at a lot of factors before deciding if it is for you. Also, as Amber noted - take and be cautious. A number of gg escorts I know do not do appointments after 8 PM to avoid the drunken asshole that calls at midnight.

[Kire89]

stupid thread

Thank you kindly for adding to it with substance and class.

[noellejordan]

Tried it for a short while... Didn't feel the payoff was worth dealing with the stigma. Safety really never seemed to be a concern, as I only did hotels (no incall) and stuck mostly to suburban, business areas.

I also didn't feel I was good at that type of experience...

[Jamie French]

I don't have to meet you're requirements to post any damn thought I might have whether you think I'm right or not. This whole, "As long as..." garbage is for chumps and you're multisyllabic response reeks of trying too hard. Keep it simple and say more with less. Elegance is so much more impressive than needless complication. More Louis Armstrong, less King Crimson.


As long as you acknowledge their being your individual experiences that cannot be extrapolated as empirical evidence detailing on intrinstic risks pertinent to the alleged oldest profession in the history of history, it's fine. I like and respect your approach and wish you continued success.

On an unrelated note, there's the occasional occurrence where I wish I was an American, and when visiting this site it's usually when I see your signature picture. It's an ambivalent thought process, because it also reminds me of how simple I am. Asexuality might be a blessing. :)

[BellaBellucci]

I don't have to meet you're requirements to post any damn thought I might have whether you think I'm right or not. This whole, "As long as..." garbage is for chumps and you're multisyllabic response reeks of trying too hard. Keep it simple and say more with less. Elegance is so much more impressive than needless complication. More Louis Armstrong, less King Crimson.

You're absolutely right. We should all embrace our simple natures. Anybody who chooses to be educated and let that show through is obviously trying too hard. Why can't he just act ignorant like everyone else? OMG! What a douchebag, that guy! The nerve!

#themorejamieknows

~BB~

[fred41]

due to these rules ive set for myself i havent had any real negative experiences.i recently saw one guy who was a bit weird and a little to gruff.my friend was also a bit creeped out by the neighborhood (apparently allot of moving shadows and people creeping about).so while he was respectful he's now on my list of calls i dont accept

....those sound like some good rules. Stick to them without compromise.

[Jamie French]

Thought I had this thing on my ignore list. Fixed.


You're absolutely right. We should all embrace our simple natures. Anybody who chooses to be educated and let that show through is obviously trying too hard. Why can't he just act ignorant like everyone else? OMG! What a douchebag, that guy! The nerve!

#themorejamieknows

~BB~

[ILoveGG&TS]

Amberskyi, I'm an old and respectable man that wants to see you. I will have to wait until next month when the social security check arrives. Seeing you will mean going without food for a couple of weeks and not paying the electric and telephone bill for a month, but I think the sacrifice is worth it.


while of course there are risks involved there are things that you can do to minimize the chances of them happening.my last scare was about a year ago (before that it had been quite awhile in which i had any incidents).i had a "client" (in parenthesis cause he had no intentions of paying) pull a knife out on me.i was always a very careful girl who can read people pretty well.i never really had a high incident count but clearly a few tweaks on how i operate could still be made.here are some of the additional changes that i put into affect a year ago:
-i now try to avoid doing incalls out of hotels that have exterior rooms (rooms in which you go straight from the parking lot to the room without having to pass through a lobby). i now feel overly exposed and to accessible in such buildings.
-i dont see clients after midnight
-i only see young clients during the daylight hours
-i dont accept appointments from guys who use an excessive amount of slang.infact i hang up on quite allot of guys because of this.when they start off the conversation with "whats good ma?" the dial tone immediately follows lol
-i no longer do half hour appointments.if you cant afford an hour than chances are your not the type of clientele i want.
-i try to have a friend around while working.so when im doing outcalls my friend waits in the lobby or in their car in the parking lot.or when im doing outcalls my friend waits outside from a discreet but close enough distance.
-i also keep a 'dont pick up' list in my phone.if a client flakes or is weird i put them on said list and no longer accept their phone calls.


due to these rules ive set for myself i havent had any real negative experiences.i recently saw one guy who was a bit weird and a little to gruff.my friend was also a bit creeped out by the neighborhood (apparently allot of moving shadows and people creeping about).so while he was respectful he's now on my list of calls i dont accept

[giovanni_hotel]

People should trust their instincts. Your instincts may be overreactive, but they NEVER lead you into trouble.

If something doesn't feel right there's no point in doing it IMO.

[Nikka]

Cam is easier, cheaper, and a lot safer. I would start there before I even thought about escorting.

r u comparing cams with escorting? u cannot be serious

[Protoman2050@gmail.com]

How much can a beginning escort make? $50/hr?

[loveboof]

Thought I had this thing on my ignore list. Fixed.

Man, what an ugly thing to say! If you're actually a nice person you do an amazing job of concealing it with a cretinous veil of hateful bile...

You might as well add me to your list too because I'm not going to buy your pornography or donate money when you beg for it.

[Nikka]

How much can a beginning escort make? $50/hr?

in Argentina they suck cocks on the street for $5 dollars

[Protoman2050@gmail.com]

in Argentina they suck cocks on the street for $5 dollars

I'm in California, and I'd like to be a bit more high-class. A proper escort, not a streetwalker.

[bluesoul]

oh, if you wanna be high class that's even easier. just advertise on craigslist and backpage and charge $50 or more for anything

[Protoman2050@gmail.com]

oh, if you wanna be high class that's even easier. just advertise on craigslist and backpage and charge $50 or more for anything

Or, how 'bout I just advertise on Eros...I have the money to afford an ad.

And be very careful about what clients I select, and ask them to provide references, so I don't pick up a gangster or axe murderer.

[loveboof]

ask them to provide references

References? They're paying you for sex; you're not hiring them.

I think you'd put off a lot of potential first timers if you ask them to include other people in their secret sex habits with hookers...

[jamiethewild]

If your going to be a high end escort in the US used only Eros along with TER and your own website where it describes your services, rates, rules and promote that site also. None of this BP bullshit, sticky smelling mofos with onion breath. Never post on BP or cheap sites to advertise because high end clients will google you number to see info and you don't want BP ads to pop up that just makes you look cheap and low.

[Kire89]

I don't have to meet you're requirements to post any damn thought I might have whether you think I'm right or not. This whole, "As long as..." garbage is for chumps and you're multisyllabic response reeks of trying too hard. Keep it simple and say more with less. Elegance is so much more impressive than needless complication. More Louis Armstrong, less King Crimson.

I'm not asking you to meet any requirements, and there is absolutely zero need to feel like I'm attacking you. I was trying to contribute with Norwegian experiences and thoughts, and my vocabulary might be archaic, my lack of appropriate idioms quite possibly glaring along with a transparent non-native English background, but I'm trying to improve through posting here. Thanks so much for your invaluable and much too kind feedback.

Here's one possible improvement for future postings of yours, since we are discussing language: your is the possessive case of you, while you're is the contraction of you are.

[loveboof]

I was trying to contribute with Norwegian experiences and thoughts, and my vocabulary might be archaic, my lack of appropriate idioms quite possibly glaring along with a transparent non-native English background, but I'm trying to improve through posting here. Thanks so much for your invaluable and much too kind feedback.

I wouldn't listen to anything people say on here! There is nothing wrong with your English. Just because some semi-illiterate hoodlum hookers and 'thug life' porn enthusiasts have a problem with the way you communicate does not mean you need to change anything.

They need to change. Why do people think it's cool to sound stupid? Present yourself how you feel comfortable, and just ignore everyone else if they take issue with it!

[tvkim]

James T tried it once and now look at him ... sorry ... her!

[Protoman2050@gmail.com]

If your going to be a high end escort in the US used only Eros along with TER and your own website where it describes your services, rates, rules and promote that site also. None of this BP bullshit, sticky smelling mofos with onion breath. Never post on BP or cheap sites to advertise because high end clients will google you number to see info and you don't want BP ads to pop up that just makes you look cheap and low.

Yeah, I'm never using backpage or craigslist. I'm not an idiot!

I suppose seeing 1-2 clients after work for 1-2 hours each for $100/hr, plus one GFE overnight client on the weekend for $3000, doing that every week I could likely make $260,000/year extra.

I bet I'm over-estimating figures a bit!

[Protoman2050@gmail.com]

References? They're paying you for sex; you're not hiring them.

I think you'd put off a lot of potential first timers if you ask them to include other people in their secret sex habits with hookers...

I meant: references as in tell me where you work so I can actually confirm you're a legit person. "Hi, does Bob work here? He does? Ok, bye."

[loveboof]

I meant: references as in tell me where you work so I can actually confirm you're a legit person. "Hi, does Bob work here? He does? Ok, bye."

Well it seems to me that discretion is the most important factor in this line of work!

What if Bob doesn't want you to call up his work and potentially tell all his colleagues that he pays for sex? Remember that he doesn't know you either...

[Protoman2050@gmail.com]

Well it seems to me that discretion is the most important factor in this line of work!

What if Bob doesn't want you to call up his work and potentially tell all his colleagues that he pays for sex? Remember that he doesn't know you either...

No need to tell the company my name, why I'm calling, or anything...

[loveboof]

No need to tell the company my name, why I'm calling, or anything...

I'm just putting myself in the shoes of a potential client. Do other high class escorts ask for references?

As far as Bob is concerned, once he gives you his details you can do whatever you want with them! All he knows about you is that you're an escort. You could blackmail him, or sell on his details.. any number of things!

[Protoman2050@gmail.com]

I'm just putting myself in the shoes of a potential client. Do other high class escorts ask for references?

As far as Bob is concerned, once he gives you his details you can do whatever you want with them! All he knows about you is that you're an escort. You could blackmail him, or sell on his details.. any number of things!

I've seen it on some ads, like this one: http://www.eros-la.com/sections/los_angeles_escorts_for_tvts.htm

[amberskyi]

References? They're paying you for sex; you're not hiring them.

I think you'd put off a lot of potential first timers if you ask them to include other people in their secret sex habits with hookers...

Quite a few high end ggs do this.by references they usually mean other girls or agencies you have used

[loveboof]

Quite a few high end ggs do this.by references they usually mean other girls or agencies you have used
It makes more sense if you mean agencies or other escorts, but that could still alienate real first timers...

[Protoman2050@gmail.com]

Quite a few high end ggs do this.by references they usually mean other girls or agencies you have used

That's actually what I meant...just confused myself when I was writing because I was doing something else.

[amberskyi]

It makes more sense if you mean agencies or other escorts, but that could still alienate real first timers...

That's kinda the whole point.the objective of a filtration process is that the girl isn't as accessible.its cuts down on the risks of seeing a heavy traffic of random guys.

[loveboof]

That's kinda the whole point.the objective of a filtration process is that the girl isn't as accessible.its cuts down on the risks of seeing a heavy traffic of random guys.

If you want to purposefully reduce your target market for the appearance of exclusivity then cool, but I would question the validity of a business model which attempted this strategy in any other capacity - and so feel the need to question it here too. Usually you would just filter out the heavy traffic by pricing yourself out of their range...

Also it is far from fool proof. What is the benefit to other escorts in giving out references on clients to their rivals? You're not unionised are you? lol

[amberskyi]

If you want to purposefully reduce your target market for the appearance of exclusivity then cool, but I would question the validity of a business model which attempted this strategy in any other capacity - and so feel the need to question it here too. Usually you would just filter out the heavy traffic by pricing yourself out of their range...

Also it is far from fool proof. What is the benefit to other escorts in giving out references on clients to their rivals? You're not unionised are you? lol

Nothing in life is fool proof, its about minimizing as much risk as possible.also your not really reducing your target market, you're refining it.
For example my larger market as a ts escort is obviously going to be men who are into or curious about ts woman.more specifically tho i want to target business professionals who have a nice bit of disposable income.even more specifically i prefer a business professional of a certain "mind set".so i go about that by not only what i charge but also by my screening process.

[loveboof]

I don't want to derail this thread any more. It's your business - do what you want.

[Tyler___Durden]

Man, what an ugly thing to say! If you're actually a nice person you do an amazing job of concealing it with a cretinous veil of hateful bile...

You might as well add me to your list too because I'm not going to buy your pornography or donate money when you beg for it.
Hey Loveboof,
Anyone would think she nicked your Rolex!
(http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=69046&highlight=rolex) :banana:

[Tyler___Durden]

I'm just putting myself in the shoes of a potential client. Do other high class escorts ask for references?
In the usa yes they do.
Coz it's illegal and escorts need verification that a client is not a cop on a sting / setup.
Verification is the norm over there. From what I've read.

[Protoman2050@gmail.com]

In the usa yes they do.
Coz it's illegal and escorts need verification that a client is not a cop on a sting / setup.
Verification is the norm over there. From what I've read.

But, if you take pics, it's not considered prostitution, it's considered pornography, and then you just need them to sign USC 2257 forms. Or something like that.

[Tyler___Durden]

Er ok.
I'm a UK Provider who hasn't toured to the usa.
So my usa escort laws knowledge is second-hand.

[ILoveGG&TS]

I see you Amberskyi!


Nothing in life is fool proof, its about minimizing as much risk as possible.also your not really reducing your target market, you're refining it.
For example my larger market as a ts escort is obviously going to be men who are into or curious about ts woman.more specifically tho i want to target business professionals who have a nice bit of disposable income.even more specifically i prefer a business professional of a certain "mind set".so i go about that by not only what i charge but also by my screening process.

[loveboof]

Hey Loveboof,
Anyone would think she nicked your Rolex!
(http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=69046&highlight=rolex) :banana:

Lol. Jamie Thief!!!!!!

How's it all going Tyler? :)

[sophiebendable]

I just want to thank everyone for this discussion. I'm considering escorting, so this sort of information is much appreciated :)

[Jamie French]

What's with the Rolex thing? I don't get it.

[giovanni_hotel]

What's with the Rolex thing? I don't get it.

You have to click and read the link in post #81.

[Jamie French]

Oh. Welp, I don't have the time or patience to putz around with that kind of nonsense so I just put all offending parties on the ol' ignore list. No fuss no muss.


You have to click and read the link in post #81.

[LibertyHarkness]

But, if you take pics, it's not considered prostitution, it's considered pornography, and then you just need them to sign USC 2257 forms. Or something like that.


good luck getting a client to sign a model release form and give you a copy of his photo ID hahaha ....and vica versa for the girl to hand over her details ...


As for safety.. safety in numbers i say ...i always have someone else with me when i escort ...

Also as Tyler said here in the UK its much easier for us as its Legal to escort .. so we are afforded safety from the police ..So any iffy clients know this that we can turn to the police for help if we are beaten/robbed etc ... so this can act as a deterent for some iffy dudes ..

For example my old apartment had 2 CCTV cameras so I had copies of every client coming to see me at my disposal from the estate office if i wished .. one going into the building complex and one going into my floor ... Also with the CCTV door entry you can see if people are alone or in a group .. but generally you can spot them people on the phone easy enough .. for me it was simple I wont see anyone that doesnt speak clear english ..I wont see eastern europeans i.e albanians/polaks etc So its a like a filtering process as some have mentioned ...

Or as loveboof has said you can price yourself out of the market abit to get rid of a chunk of the dreamers etc ..Pricing etc comes down to how much you need the money i guess .. me i dont escort to live, i escort as and when i want to around my webcamming, photography work, paid shoots/ modelling ..so its just a bonus of cash basically to save up or use for surgeries etc.

Escorting is not 100% safe and it never can be, but then neither is shooting porn, neither is sticking massive things up your arsehole, neither is being a taxi driver, neither is working as a scaffolder, neither is being a soldier etc ... you can only limit the risks as much as you can ..

Some of my no no questions on phone that result in my hanging up or questioning further -

- Is it discreet where you are (can take this two ways good and bad)
- are you alone (i always take this as a bad sign)
- you dont have any camera's do you (always take this as a bad sign)
- Ghetto/Slang/Street speak - (not interested and hang up )
- to many sexual questions - (hangup or give them premium number)
- can you pick me up/meet me at station (errr no thanks, its an incall for reason)
- really bad english, or hardly any english (not going to be a good meet with me, so i decline these, if i cant understand them properly then i am not going to be relaxed and enjoy myself so easier to decline it)
- dont see people after 9pm (generally i find the later the time gets the worse condition the person potentially is in , drunk,high etc ) (i only see late night people if they have been prebooked in before on a booking system with reputable feedback i.e adultwork)
- Do you Party? (decline as no interest in druggies, orgies etc , have done 2 of these in past never again )
- Will you see 2 men at once ? (no i wont. i decline these again )
- Are you clean (get asked this alot, but it goes bothways i turn it back and ask them and explain why)

there are many more questions i could list ...

For me its just using common sense, and thinking about it abit and always go with my gut instinct... if i do get a iffty client that is weird etc then i will send his details etc to other girls so they know as well .. nice thing with adultwork is that the providers can leave information about clients on there on their profiles that the client cant see only other working girls can .. so if they are weird, pushy etc what not , or just great fun you can leave hidden feedback.notes etc for others to see . or warnings etc ..

just my thoughts x

be safe have fun x

[loveboof]

I just put all offending parties on the ol' ignore list. No fuss no muss.

Cool. If someone wants, they could let Jamie know that Tyler__Durden doesn't need ignoring! (She was just taking the piss out of me for my drama :whistle:)

[darkrose2000]

good luck getting a client to sign a model release form and give you a copy of his photo ID hahaha ....and vica versa for the girl to hand over her details ...


As for safety.. safety in numbers i say ...i always have someone else with me when i escort ...

......x

True, true and again true.
And also there must be Respect. To each other.

Also, no matter how strange it sounds - trust your "6th sense".
One client less is much better that one possible problem more.

[Bunzee]

for the girls who escort, how often do you have a client that doesn't pay? do you make them pay first before the service?

[BiBoyinBeantown]

as Tyler said here in the UK its much easier for us as its Legal to escort .. so we are afforded safety from the police ..So any iffy clients know this that we can turn to the police for help if we are beaten/robbed etc ... so this can act as a deterent for some iffy dudes ..

Why the FUCK is this still illegal between consenting adults in a so-called "Free" country?

:soapbox

[Rusty Eldora]

Or, how 'bout I just advertise on Eros...I have the money to afford an ad.

And be very careful about what clients I select, and ask them to provide references, so I don't pick up a gangster or axe murderer.

On BP you almost need a daily ad as it scrolls off the page and not viewed. In Seattle and HNL I think it is about $10 for a BP ad, so $300 a month. A TG ad in Seattle is around $120 and you are up there for the month. Yes it is considered to be higher end. However, I have seen even very good escorts use BP to fill in when travelling.

For TS I have no problem using BP here, it does have the most options and about the same amount of fakes.

For gg escorts, I am always providing 2 references (prior ladies I have seen) that are checked. Greatly improved safety.