Why is it so hard to ind a TS who actualy wants a relationship?

[559alphadog]

What the title says, ive been loikin and tryin but it seems imposible.

[559alphadog]

Im sorry for the miss prints, my android has a sensitive key pad.

[Janna_b]

We could almost say the same thing back to you...why is it so hard to find a guy who wants something more than exploring what's between my legs, and wants a relationship outside of the bedroom.

We all face the same challenges in looking for a relationship, it's just a matter of never giving up until you find that needle in the haystack.

[4trans_only]

Hm, I have different experience. Easy to start, but they finish after some months

[559alphadog]

Ive never have issues with females, but i seem to strike out with the other.

[559alphadog]

True

[Ryz]

Umm, it's not?

[fred41]

Ive never have issues with females, but i seem to strike out with the other.

I'm not sure I understand that...if you don't have problems having a relationship with GGs wouldn't you be in one now? It's always going to be harder to find a relationship when you narrow down your prospects like that. What are you looking for in a relationship? What do you consider a relationship to be (mind you, every one has a slightly different idea on the definition of a relationship)?

[Remy757Photog]

I think it's safe to say that most of us trans women want a relationship.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Most girls are working towards what they want to see in the mirror.

So many escort and many men aren't okay with that.

So unless you want to fund their transition, I doubt they will stay.

Plus men that say they want a relationship, usually only want the superficial sexy side of it.

That can be said about straight relationships too.

Relationships take a lot of hard work and a lot of compromise.

Most men aren't ready to stick around for surgeries, and if she ever decides to go post op.

They have to get over the fetish/fantasy.

Many girls make that hard for the guy, by being so guarded and also assuming or empowering the fact they are "freaks" with their attitude. Instead of educating and going slow with the guy.

[nysprod]

Kelly is indeed very wise...

[giovanni_hotel]

It's just hard to meet compatible transwomen for dating. I agree it's difficult from the other side too, but since the actual population of tgirls national is so fractional, a man isn't going to meet a TS for dating and a LTR unless he actively makes an effort to go find his dream woman.

[MrsKellyPierce]

I would like to add also even if a guy says he'll pay for said surgeries, many girls still wont go for it. Due to the fact they don't want to feel like they owe their partner everything. Also if you have any resentment towards it, it avoids bringing it up in arguments.

[Remy757Photog]

Most girls are working towards what they want to see in the mirror.

So many escort and many men aren't okay with that.

So unless you want to fund their transition, I doubt they will stay.

Plus men that say they want a relationship, usually only want the superficial sexy side of it.

That can be said about straight relationships too.

Relationships take a lot of hard work and a lot of compromise.

Most men aren't ready to stick around for surgeries, and if she ever decides to go post op.

They have to get over the fetish/fantasy.

Many girls make that hard for the guy, by being so guarded and also assuming or empowering the fact they are "freaks" with their attitude. Instead of educating and going slow with the guy.

Could not have been said better

[darkrose2000]

Most girls are working towards what they want to see in the mirror.

So many escort and many men aren't okay with that.

So unless you want to fund their transition, I doubt they will stay.

Plus men that say they want a relationship, usually only want the superficial sexy side of it.

That can be said about straight relationships too.

Relationships take a lot of hard work and a lot of compromise.

Most men aren't ready to stick around for surgeries, and if she ever decides to go post op.

They have to get over the fetish/fantasy.

Many girls make that hard for the guy, by being so guarded and also assuming or empowering the fact they are "freaks" with their attitude. Instead of educating and going slow with the guy.


Yes, I will say it again - Very true.

Also my opinion:

Many of the Tgirls actually are very good and nice person in real.
The problem is the right approach, the right place.

Too many men called them and lie them only to get to their bed.
That's why it is very difficult to believe you, even if you are genuine.

If you really want a relationship with a Tgirl, be patient. It takes time. Let the girl know you better. Socialise. Go to places that tgirls go, meet, talk. Be positive and genuine.

Regards,
K.

[amberskyi]

Have you tried setting up traps in their natural habitat (surgeon offices, clubs, malls, etc)? The tranny is a very rare and elusive creature.catching one requires patience and sharp instincts

[giovanni_hotel]

Have you tried setting up traps in their natural habitat (surgeon offices, clubs, malls, etc)? The tranny is a very rare and elusive creature.catching one requires patience and sharp instincts

LOL. You joke but the truth is it IS hard because there aren't many of 'you' out here.
I can keep my daily routine and meet all kinds of women. But if I wanna meet a tgirl I have to make much more of an effort and investment of my time.

I do agree though there are more TS who are open to relationships than there are admirers/chasers who want the same thing.

[559alphadog]

Thank u everyone for thier input.

[fred41]

Have you tried setting up traps in their natural habitat (surgeon offices, clubs, malls, etc)? The tranny is a very rare and elusive creature.catching one requires patience and sharp instincts

lol...what would you bait the traps with?Louis Vuitton? (Would a knock off work...or do TS have sharper than normal eyesight?)

[amberskyi]

LOL. You joke but the truth is it IS hard because there aren't many of 'you' out here.
I can keep my daily routine and meet all kinds of women. But if I wanna meet a tgirl I have to make much more of an effort and investment of my time.

I do agree though there are more TS who are open to relationships than there are admirers/chasers who want the same thing.

i never really find it hard to find someone to date me.now finding someone im actually into? thats where it gets hard.

[amberskyi]

lol...what would you bait the traps with?Louis Vuitton? (Would a knock off work...or do TS have sharper than normal eyesight?)

im not your typical ts.i have to confess that i know almost nothing about brand names. all a guy would need to snare me is some awesome concert tickets to my fav band and a bottle of jack.

[TSCURIOUS]

I've been trying to find that for years.
Good input Kelly!
I've spoken to a few and most say close to or exactly - "Can you afford me?" NO LIE!
LOVE FRED41's comment^^
Where I live there is no chance to "trap" anyone - they don't exist here

[559alphadog]

I mean ive been to almost 20 different countrts and every continent but antartica and ive yet to find one who is honestly looking for a real relationship. But kelly and ts curious hit it dead on

[fred41]

im not your typical ts.i have to confess that i know almost nothing about brand names. all a guy would need to snare me is some awesome concert tickets to my fav band and a bottle of jack.


Would this work?

[mac.B]

What the title says, ive been loikin and tryin but it seems imposible.


Huh? TF ru u talkn about thats all these trannies want

[TS Evelyn Summers]

Thats B-cuz MOST tannies dont want that..They just want the "Attention"....

[amberskyi]

Would this work?

Haha I would be so caught and mounted above someones fire place (or bed ;) )

[loren]

Great comments, Janna & Kelly.:iagree: In my experience, most guys are only interested in sex, (just don't tell their wives LOL) they don't really want to do anything to foster a real relationship.

Would this work?

You would get me.

[Kire89]

I'd love to have a relationship with a tgirl, but I'm not sure that I fully realize what that entails until I'd be in one.

Anyway, in a country of 5 million, with maybe 400k people in my age range (20-25) out of which half are men, there isn't going to be many tgirls that I am compatible with. Zero to none I would say. :(

[TS Evelyn Summers]

I'd love to have a relationship with a tgirl, but I'm not sure that I fully realize what that entails until I'd be in one.

Anyway, in a country of 5 million, with maybe 400k people in my age range (20-25) out of which half are men, there isn't going to be many tgirls that I am compatible with. Zero to none I would say. :(



Hey..Whatch'all driving over there in Norway????

[FreddieGomez]

i would lose interest just having anal sex every day....and wouldn't ya'lls ass get stretched and loose?

i love genetic women too but if a ts had a vagina that would be best...

[Janna_b]

I don't spend a lot of time with a lot of ts women especially the ones here in Vegas because for the most part the ones I've met are working girls and all about what a man can buy for them, and are so extremely picky looking for perfection physically. I always find it funny how they complain to me how they met their dream man and when they tell him of their secret they get dumped and don't want to be judged by what genitals they were born with, yet they are so picky and superficial that if a guy isn't perfect it doesn't matter how he treats them they want perfection. :hide-1:

As others have said a lot of us girls have been through a lot with men who are just looking for a fantasy and not the reality of what happens outside of the bedroom and might take a bit of convincing before their guard comes down.

I guess to the OP I guess my question would be why are you limiting yourself to just ts women? Is it the penis you're attracted to or the woman? I guess that would be my question if I met someone who said they were looking for a ts woman in particular.

[TSCURIOUS]

^What Janna said! Awesome and run for President

[tao1kiku]

Well said Janna. I learned from someone a few years ago, it is the person you fall in love with, not the sex/gender. it also takes alot of honesty and keeping realistic expectations with both people. Being honest with each other, realizing that no guy is going to be perfectly sculpted with 6 pack abs, beautiful home, car and money, and the girl will never be slim, perfect breasts and hung. It's not about what they have, it's about who they are and learning to like, respect AND THEN love each other

[MrsKellyPierce]

I agree with a lot of what Janna said, but I disagree with the last part.

Sex is a pivotal role in a relationship, and if you don't enjoy sex with a trans, you wont be into it, maybe the guy enjoys sex more with a trans woman than a female. Which is rare in straight men, but it does happen.

So sex cannot be totally ruled out.

[giovanni_hotel]

I agree with a lot of what Janna said, but I disagree with the last part.

Sex is a pivotal role in a relationship, and if you don't enjoy sex with a trans, you wont be into it, maybe the guy enjoys sex more with a trans woman than a female. Which is rare in straight men, but it does happen.

So sex cannot be totally ruled out.

I don't know why some transwomen sound almost offended that a guy would have a preference for TS.

[MrsKellyPierce]

I don't know why some transwomen sound almost offended that a guy would have a preference for TS.
Not sure why either, my husband prefers sex with trans over women. He says the ass is tighter and basically feels the same as pussy, and not a lot of females will let you fuck them in the ass. If they do, he said they were never good at it.

He also says, he loved eating out girls, but only found a few he actually enjoyed it with. He says as long as an ass is clean there is no smell and same with a cock if it's clean.

[archineer]

I find at least in the UK that all of the good girls are taken, the rest are escorting (and not interested) crazy, or not my type. Finding a relationship here is difficult to say the least.

[amberskyi]

i would lose interest just having anal sex every day....and wouldn't ya'lls ass get stretched and loose?

i love genetic women too but if a ts had a vagina that would be best...

Good genetics and i do exercises lol.kinda sucks tho cause no matter how often i get dicked down I'm tight again in a few hours :(

[MrsKellyPierce]

i would lose interest just having anal sex every day....and wouldn't ya'lls ass get stretched and loose?

i love genetic women too but if a ts had a vagina that would be best...
Well that's because you prefer pussy over ass.

Some men may disagree with you, and I've been fucked in my ass over and over again by my husband and it's still tight.

The problem is a lot of girls don't fuck a dick like a pussy can, some girls can but a lot of girls can't.

You even see it in porn movies, the girl barely takes it and bounces on it here and there. The guy is always jerking off at the end to climax.

[archineer]

Not sure why either, my husband prefers sex with trans over women. He says the ass is tighter and basically feels the same as pussy, and not a lot of females will let you fuck them in the ass. If they do, he said they were never good at it.

He also says, he loved eating out girls, but only found a few he actually enjoyed it with. He says as long as an ass is clean there is no smell and same with a cock if it's clean.

I think it's because they want to be seen and validated as women, hence they want 100% straight guys. The thing is these types of guys wouldn't touch them, as they tend to think of ts girls as 'men,' where as it's guys like us who like ts' that are likely to view them as women.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Basically they want to be seen and validated as women, hence they want 100% straight guys. The thing is these types of guys wouldn't touch them, as they tend to think of ts girls as 'men,' where as it's guys who like ts' who are more likely to view them as women.
Exactly and sex is meant to be enjoyed. What if the guy you are fucking can't get you off anally. I can with my husband, but I always thought gee what if I couldn't. That would suck.

Men want to please the woman they love, that's why so many women fake it. Otherwise it would work on the males self-esteem.

[TSCURIOUS]

Kelly - You have a point - a very valid one.
Sex is important, very! But there is a ying/yang dicotemy (sp?) here. There are trade offs. Maybe, for some, the aspects of the non-sexual, caring/loving part make up for some of the sexual?
And - in an open, trusting, (you know what you got into) relationship - the sexual part can be figured out.
Now - if the physical part is out from the beginning- it will not work - obviously - but you would never have gotten to that point in the first place.
We all like rocket sex, but as you get to a certian point in life - is that all there is? Trust me - we're all getting there!
For me - A SECURE STRAIGHT MAN - I actually enjoy sex with a TS girl as much or more than a GG.

It's the realtionship which it's all about--

Just me rambling-

[amberskyi]

Well that's because you prefer pussy over ass.

Some men may disagree with you, and I've been fucked in my ass over and over again by my husband and it's still tight.

The problem is a lot of girls don't fuck a dick like a pussy can, some girls can but a lot of girls can't.

You even see it in porn movies, the girl barely takes it and bounces on it here and there. The guy is always jerking off at the end to climax.

They're jerking at the end cause its porn and need to cum on demand.plus allot of directors want a visible cum shot.you see the same thing in straight porn

[TSCURIOUS]

^ Beauty AND brains!!

[BellaBellucci]

We could almost say the same thing back to you...why is it so hard to find a guy who wants something more than exploring what's between my legs, and wants a relationship outside of the bedroom.

We all face the same challenges in looking for a relationship, it's just a matter of never giving up until you find that needle in the haystack.

^ Fuckin' A this! <3

~BB~

[amberskyi]

Ugh..i hate how people try to say because a guy is with me than he isn't straight, he's atleast bi.for some guys it isn't about an attraction to cock but his attraction to the woman i am.its those type of guys who aren't going to get all bothered when i get srs.

[FreddieGomez]

it doesn't bother me

it isn't necessary unless it's a long term thing

[archineer]

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[archineer]

Exactly and sex is meant to be enjoyed. What if the guy you are fucking can't get you off anally. I can with my husband, but I always thought gee what if I couldn't. That would suck.

Men want to please the woman they love, that's why so many women fake it. Otherwise it would work on the males self-esteem.

Indeed. It's no good being with someone who isn't secure enough in themselves to be with you so why would any girl bother pining after guys like that?

[nysprod]

i would lose interest just having anal sex every day....and wouldn't ya'lls ass get stretched and loose?

i love genetic women too but if a ts had a vagina that would be best...

RE your signature "pussy is ALWAYS free for me"
That must also mean the babies you're having with all those different PR mammas are free too, with the state paying for the healthcare and foodstamps...because if you were covering that, the pussy wouldn't be free...would it?

[archineer]

Ugh..i hate how people try to say because a guy is with me than he isn't straight, he's atleast bi.for some guys it isn't about an attraction to cock but his attraction to the woman i am.its those type of guys who aren't going to get all bothered when i get srs.

I don't you get what I mean, by 100% straight i'm talking about the average guy who has a degree of internalised homophobia and can't think of ts as anything other than 'men.' I have a lot of straight friends like this (most of the guys here will.) Personally i'm pretty gender blind so it doesn't even enter my head.

[amberskyi]

So are you saying in order to be straight one has to be homophobic lmao.and you'd be surprised how many dudes I've messed with are homophobes (in regard to gay men) regardless of their girl having a dick.it pisses me off allot

[FreddieGomez]

RE your signature "pussy is ALWAYS free for me"
That must also mean the babies you're having with all those different PR mammas are free too, with the state paying for the healthcare and foodstamps...because if you were covering that, the pussy wouldn't be free...would it?

yup. sure why not?

but supporting a baby isn't paying for pussy.

i am court ordered to pay child support for my son and if it happens with my daughter, then so be it.

they're my responsibility not yours to worry about.

[nysprod]

yup. sure why not?

but supporting a baby isn't paying for pussy.

Really? You fucked, and now you're payin the momma for the next 18 years...what you call that?

[buckjohnson]

A woman's pussy get stretched after times, esp with vagina birth. I prefer childless woman or woman who gave birth through sx through stomach, keeping those walls tight. Anal sex is different, having it nightly would be boring. I am also suspect of woman who can take my dick up he ass...about 75% who let me fuck than in the ass has problems with it, no matter what the size of the dick is. But just strictly anal sex, nightly would be boring, potentially dangerous to the transwoman, and would stretch the ass to becoming unsightly and does not feel good. Finally diversity is important in a long term relationship

[archineer]

So are you saying in order to be straight one has to be homophobic lmao.and you'd be surprised how many dudes I've messed with are homophobes (in regard to gay men) regardless of their girl having a dick.it pisses me off allot

lol ok no I don't mean that..... bad choice of words.

[FreddieGomez]

Really? You fucked, and now you're payin the momma for the next 18 years...what you call that?

that money isn't entitled to her personally. it is to support OUR child.

[TSCURIOUS]

"RE your signature "pussy is ALWAYS free for me"
That must also mean the babies you're having with all those different PR mammas are free too, with the state paying for the healthcare and foodstamps... "

This should be good!

[FreddieGomez]

what can i say?

some chicks want this dick.

don't get me started. i know i have a big head but still...

[nysprod]

that money isn't entitled to her personally. it is to support OUR child.

You gotta hand over 18% to the momma, even if she's with another man who's giving her money, or even if she wins the lottery...you payin' for pussy, dude!

[FreddieGomez]

Starting to get annoyed as fuck

[FreddieGomez]

I don't take this serious not a bit

[nysprod]

Ii don't blame you...

[FreddieGomez]

After i take my daughter home it's time to pop these bottles

[SXFX]

Paralyses of choice.
There there are a finite number of "admirers" out there, they are greater than the number of trans women who are passible.
(The ones who look like grandmothers....well who wants to fuck them?)
So the girls in effect are paralyzed in not making a single choice because they have too many options. They are always in a state of sitting and waiting for the next perfect guy to come around the corner.
And since perfection is next to impossible to find or obtain they end up waiting and waiting. Until you have granny trannies

[TSCURIOUS]

Those that boast - have the least.
Those that dismiss - have even less-

[FreddieGomez]

Paralyses of choice.
There there are a finite number of "admirers" out there, they are greater than the number of trans women who are passible.
(The ones who look like grandmothers....well who wants to fuck them?)
So the girls in effect are paralyzed in not making a single choice because they have too many options. They are always in a state of sitting and waiting for the next perfect guy to come around the corner.
And since perfection is next to impossible to find or obtain they end up waiting and waiting. Until you have granny trannies

there are more unpassable than passable.

sure some dudes will probably fuck an unpassable tranny but that doesn't mean they'd date them or even go out in public with them.

[nysprod]

there are more unpassable than passable.

sure some dudes will probably fuck an unpassable tranny but that doesn't mean they'd date them or even go out in public with them.

The voice of experience...

[FreddieGomez]

The voice of experience...



tsparisangelline told me this.

[nysprod]

How unpassable we talking about?

[SXFX]

there are more unpassable than passable.

sure some dudes will probably fuck an unpassable tranny but that doesn't mean they'd date them or even go out in public with them.
Dude you are hurting my head....

# of dudes looking for TS >>>>>>>>> # of good looking TS girls

SO!
THE TS girls just sit and wait to see if there is a better choice out there.
But there isn't, after a while there is a finite level that is obtained.
Sure there may be few millionaire brain surgeon Brad Pitt look alikes out there who are ok to date and even marry a TS girl but that's 1/100,000
But when there are 100,000 choices the ladies wait.

Add to it that a large number of the passible women we find attractive and speak to here work in the sex industry.

[FreddieGomez]

built like the hulk?

[FreddieGomez]

Dude you are hurting my head....

# of dudes looking for TS >>>>>>>>> # of good looking TS girls

SO!
THE TS girls just sit and wait to see if there is a better choice out there.
But there isn't, after a while there is a finite level that is obtained.
Sure there may be few millionaire brain surgeon Brad Pitt look alikes out there who are ok to date and even marry a TS girl but that's 1/100,000
But when there are 100,000 choices the ladies wait.

Add to it that a large number of the passible women we find attractive and speak to here work in the sex industry.

i dont look like brad pitt but i am attractive and "black" alot of trannys love black men....in fact alot will charge other men and not me because i am what they prefer in their personal life. if i was into that kinda thing though, which i'm not....

[nysprod]

built like the hulk?

damn, I wouldn't punk the junk on no hulk ts with your dick...lol

[nysprod]

i dont look like brad pitt but i am attractive and "black" alot of trannys love black men....in fact alot will charge other men and not me because i am what they prefer in their personal life. if i was into that kinda thing though, which i'm not....

Dude, you are so FOS...

[FreddieGomez]

Dude, you are so FOS...

if u say so

[amberskyi]

i dont look like brad pitt but i am attractive and "black" alot of trannys love black men....in fact alot will charge other men and not me because i am what they prefer in their personal life. if i was into that kinda thing though, which i'm not....

Me and most of my girl friends (who are latina) prefer latin men so there goes that theory lol

[SXFX]

The middle easter guys, well we just get no love.
But such is life

[MrsKellyPierce]

Me and most of my girl friends (who are latina) prefer latin men so there goes that theory lol
I can go with this..I prefer sexy Latin men or Italian men.

[nysprod]

I can go with this..I prefer sexy Latin men or Italian men.

Your husband doesn't look either...

[MrsKellyPierce]

Your husband doesn't look either...
My husband is half white/half spanish

And really I thought he was Italian when I first met him..

[nysprod]

You guys make a really cute couple...but if I were to take a guess, it would be that you help style him...

[BBaggins06]

i am court ordered to pay child support for my son and if it happens with my daughter, then so be it.

they're my responsibility not yours to worry about.

Actually no, since neither one of your kids has a decent father figure around, the rest of us will have to deal with your kids eventually.

[buckjohnson]

bbaggin...that was not necc and so uncool

[amberskyi]

I can go with this..I prefer sexy Latin men or Italian men.

Can i get a amen lol.i love my papis

[Kire89]

Hey..Whatch'all driving over there in Norway????

I ride the tram, metro, train or bus. :D

I'm the least auto-savvy/interested guy I know and will probably never apply myself toward getting a driver's license. Other Norwegians seem to like cars though!

[Rabbiteyes]

I would think the majority of trans people want relationships (at least every one I know does).

I personally want to get married some day...so... yea, would like to find the right guy and have a wedding and everything.

[FreddieGomez]

Actually no, since neither one of your kids has a decent father figure around, the rest of us will have to deal with your kids eventually.



My son's mother prevents me from seeing my son.

I see my daughter regularly.

[FreddieGomez]

Me and most of my girl friends (who are latina) prefer latin men so there goes that theory lol

Well latina women love me...i'm half latino but black where it counts. ;-)

[Odelay]

This thread is still going on? Okay, here's the deal. As a guy, looking for LTR with a t-girl...

1. Move to a state with legalized gay/trans marriage. If you can't immediately move to such a state, let her know right up front that that's your plan.
2. Let her know up front that you're serious enough about the relationship to eventually want marriage.
3. Marry her.

And you know what #3 means, right? It means a divorce settlement and possibly alimony payments if the marriage doesn't work out. You're putting yourself on the hook when you talk marriage. She'll know you're serious. And if you're loaded to the gills and won't do marriage short of a pre-nup, you better have a snappy answer on what that pre-nup will look like. Maybe she doesn't get your mansion in Connecticut but she'll know where she stands relative to the rest of your finances.

I respect the Freddie posts in here. Sure, he might be a little reckless screwing around without protection, but he seems to be contributing to the welfare of his children, after the fact. You, Mr LTR seeker, can do the same by committing to marriage whether it works or not.

If you don't want to do marriage, understand that she'll know you'll have the option to cut out at any time. That's not going to exactly make her all warm and fuzzy in committing to you.