Do we need makeup to "pass" or at least turn you on?

[MsDazzler]

This is a question for the guys -

Bio women can get away with not wearing makeup and look female... most of us trans women do need makeup to at least look more passable or presentable as women.

Guys, do you need the trans woman to have makeup on ? to at least have her actually look female or to "turn you on"?

Here is one of me without make up and another picture with smoky, clubbing eye makeup on for you guys to look at for the sake of this discussion.

I feel so self-conscious without makeup on. lol.

[runround04]

Case by case Id say. Make up is like wax on a car, it'll make it look better, but if its an ugly car, its an ugly car. This goes for TS and GG.

[MsDazzler]

Case by case Id say. Make up is like wax on a car, it'll make it look better, but if its an ugly car, its an ugly car. This goes for TS and GG.

That is just circumventing my question. In your opinion, do most trans women you have seen need makeup to get you turned on or at least present the illusion of a woman?

[Rabbiteyes]

~gasp!~ you posted pictures of yourself? You look nice :) I actually think you look better without the makeup.

[Merkurie]

Trans women no. Drag queens yes.

A few girls off the top of my head like Foxxy Amy Daly, Amberski, Wendy have posted pics or done full sets without makeup and looked damn sexy dong it.

[runround04]

That is just circumventing my question. In your opinion, do most trans women you have seen need makeup to get you turned on or at least present the illusion of a woman?

Crap, my political answer didnt work lol

Nope, not generally.

[JerseyMike]

I like girls both tg and gg to wear make up when it makes sense. If we're going out and having dinner or something then its nice. If you're waking up or going to the supermarket not needed. Although I always notice women in the supermarket when they're wearing make up and heels.

[Wanderer1]

Hi Dazz!
You look just fine without the make-up, a pretty face, any body shots of you?

[MsDazzler]

~gasp!~ you posted pictures of yourself? You look nice :) I actually think you look better without the makeup.

Really? "nice" isn't exacty the most exciting compliment in the world.

I just think I look more "andro" and "boyish" without makeup on. And people always compliment me more when I am out and have eye makeup on because they say my eyes are my best features.

[Rabbiteyes]

Really? "nice" isn't exacty the most exciting compliment in the world.

Lol , I didn't mean it like thattt. I'm trans too (and into guys ~_~) so... nice is a good thing :D

[LongTom101]

Case by case Id say. Make up is like wax on a car, it'll make it look better, but if its an ugly car, its an ugly car. This goes for TS and GG.

I beg to strongly differ

I've witnessed makeup being responsible for some startling transformations that completely contradict what youre saying, but yeah its true for both GGs and trans women that you couldnt really generalise and its a case by case matter.

In general for me though, my opinion is that trans women as a rule in comparison to GGs need makeup more often than not, to turn me on, and look more feminine, although I'd say the thread starter looks really very good au naturel

[caliuncut]

Dazz, first - you're hot with and without makeup. You're question is whether you need makeup to turn us on and its hard to give a one size fits all answer, but I'll try lol. Generally speaking, if you're trying to turn us on and we're getting together for a rendezvous then yes makeup. That goes for GG or TS, makeup usually makes kicks it up a few notches.

Now if I just ran into you somewhere and you didn't have makeup....well I'd still wanna take you home and do naughty things to you...so yea.

[Willie Escalade]

I've seen quite a few gals look better WITHOUT makeup...because the girl is naturally beautiful. Jane Marie comes to mind.

[robertlouis]

I've seen quite a few gals look better WITHOUT makeup...because the girl is naturally beautiful. Jane Marie comes to mind.

Same here, Willie. No need to gild an already beautiful lily.

And Ms D - you look more than just feminine in your no-makeup face. You're a very pretty woman.

[oifarang]

This is a question for the guys -

Bio women can get away with not wearing makeup and look female... most of us trans women do need makeup to at least look more passable or presentable as women.

Guys, do you need the trans woman to have makeup on ? to at least have her actually look female or to "turn you on"?




Here is one of me without make up and another picture with smoky, clubbing eye makeup on for you guys to look at for the sake of this discussion.

I feel so self-conscious without makeup on. lol.

Well the picture of you without makeup has given me a hard-on so the answer in your case is no you don't need make up to turn me on.

[castor_troyuk]

You look familiar, do you have a YouTube video of a pic taken every day?

[terrygrooby]

This is a question for the guys -

Bio women can get away with not wearing makeup and look female... most of us trans women do need makeup to at least look more passable or presentable as women.

Guys, do you need the trans woman to have makeup on ? to at least have her actually look female or to "turn you on"?

Here is one of me without make up and another picture with smoky, clubbing eye makeup on for you guys to look at for the sake of this discussion.

I feel so self-conscious without makeup on. lol.


I think you look great without make-up. We can't see much in the club pic but it looks like it's a good make-up. Personnally bad make-up, too much make-up,etc is a big turn off.

[aboutthezote]

You look awesome in both, honestly. You have nothing to feel self-conscious about.

[MsDazzler]

I've seen quite a few gals look better WITHOUT makeup...because the girl is naturally beautiful. Jane Marie comes to mind.

What about "passing" for non-passable trans women? I mean, "passing" is such a important criteria for most men who want trans women, so... you know?

[luvhungangels]

Personally I do not like a lot of makeup. Either GG-Trans-TV-or CD.
And BTW YOU look sexy as hell without it !!

[tym1982]

first time poster, i think you look like an attractive woman without make-up, and more trans with. like the second poster said it's a case by case. i havent seen many trans without to make a general consensus, or if i have i didnt know

[youngblood61]

Not for me,really don't like alot of makeup.:)

[bluesoul]

In general for me though, my opinion is that trans women as a rule in comparison to GGs need makeup more often than not, to turn me on, and look more feminine

i completely agree with the above assessment


What about "passing" for non-passable trans women? I mean, "passing" is such a important criteria for most men who want trans women, so... you know?

two things: either VERY few trannies pass without makeup or they still look incredibly beautiful and feminine (this doesn't mean they pass, they just look perfect without makeup)

hope that makes sense

[eggbert]

I don't "need" a girl or transwoman to wear makeup to look cute, but I'm much more turned on by a girl with makeup that's done well.

[giovanni_hotel]

If we've been naked and sweaty together before, then no, in the bedroom or around the apartment a transwomen IMO doesn't need makeup to be with me. You have to know your look and what your strengths are IMO, but I still have an aversion to heavy makeup all the time.

[Lovecox]

I prefer no makeup.

Sometimes makeup is used as a social convention and is appropriate for going out in the evening to dinner or something formal.

Makeup is sexy when it is used to enhance, not to disguise.

My two cents.

[nysprod]

I think "passing" is a myth in that it's what men who are attracted (i.e. sexually turned on) to transgender women want.

Attractive transgender women have a certain "look" that is different from GG's...men like me who are attracted to transgender women look at them and know immediately they are transgender, and that is exactly what we find so sexy and attractive about them.

Think of any of the well known transgender women who are generally considered to be very attractive...Jane Marie, Domino, etc. A man who is attracted to transgender women look at them and know instinctively they are transgender. They are not "passing" for genetic women, they're beautiful transgender women.

It's this "look" that men like me find attractive..."passing" has nothing to do with it.

Same thing with the idea that men who are attracted to transgender woman want them to tuck. To prove my point, there's a thread here on the forum called "bulges and filled underwear" that's one of the most popular. Do you see a thread here called "tucked"? If there is, it's buried somewhere.

[amberskyi]

rigghhhttt...passing is a myth.
i always laugh when i go to a new doctor and he/she asks me when was my last period.
guys always ask me where can they meet a ts and how come theyve never seen them.chances are you already have and didnt even notice.

[nysprod]

rigghhhttt...passing is a myth.
i always laugh when i go to a new doctor and he/she asks me when was my last period.

Lol...some Dr...

[amberskyi]

between my chronic hangovers and general lazy demeanor make up is a hassle i try to avoid lol

[dskreet2]

It depends on the trans woman for me. A nice complimentary shade of lipstick never made a trans woman look less attractive. Foundation, rouge, excessively dark eyelashes, and the colored I eyelids makes it a toss-up. The natural look is preferred because this is the woman you will see in your mind most of the time.

[MsDazzler]

first time poster, i think you look like an attractive woman without make-up, and more trans with. like the second poster said it's a case by case. i havent seen many trans without to make a general consensus, or if i have i didnt know

well of course because i posted a pic of myself with makeup on this trans site, which cues you right away...

i have posted my pics with makeup on other straight dating sites and no one ever pegs me for being trans

[stallion79]

Dazz you look amazing w/o the makeup.

[MsDazzler]

Thanks, Stallion. Actually, on second thought, I would prefer to look better without makeup since if I lived with a boyfriend, he would have to see me without makeup eventually. heh

[toli]

Makeup. This includes 90% of the passables ones.

[MsDazzler]

While we are on the subject of makeup, do you like the "porn starlet" look? Falsies, full-to-the-eyebrow shiny or shimmery eyeshadow, thick and heavy black liner...

[toli]

While we are on the subject of makeup, do you like the "porn starlet" look? Falsies, full-to-the-eyebrow shiny or shimmery eyeshadow, thick and heavy black liner...

I like them all as long as they look passable. Usually very passable. The only exception would be a dominitrix look with a whip or something like that then I don't care how good they look, not into that.

[guymandude]

While we are on the subject of makeup, do you like the "porn starlet" look? Falsies, full-to-the-eyebrow shiny or shimmery eyeshadow, thick and heavy black liner...

yes, not necessarily, yes, and yes

[Hotone]

You are hot without make up!

[Hotone]

You look hot as hell without make up......sometimes the natural look is better!

[Thor57]

amberskyi is just naturally gorgeous, I see!

[sherm13]

You look great either way.

[danthepoetman]

This is a question for the guys -
Bio women can get away with not wearing makeup and look female... most of us trans women do need makeup to at least look more passable or presentable as women.
Guys, do you need the trans woman to have makeup on ? to at least have her actually look female or to "turn you on"?
Here is one of me without make up and another picture with smoky, clubbing eye makeup on for you guys to look at for the sake of this discussion.
I feel so self-conscious without makeup on. lol.
MsDazzler, you shouldn't feel self-conscious: you're a lovely, lovely woman! There's no question that you pass without make-up! Not only do you "pass", you're just plain lovely, and I would feel lots of pride hanging around with such a beautiful woman at my arm!

To answer your general question, of course it depends on the person, and especially where she's at in her transition... My hunch is, a good HRT and some time, and most t-women should eventually "pass". I encourage every one to hang on keep pursuing their goal -which is in the end, being if not becoming yourself.

[MrsKellyPierce]

I think it depends on the guy..some guys like the trashy look and others like the natural look. Some guys like the in between.

[nysprod]

I like both...

[Clind]

same from here

[danthepoetman]

I think it depends on the guy..some guys like the trashy look and others like the natural look. Some guys like the in between.

Guys have different tastes indeed. But you're another girl, Kelly, who sure doesn't need any make-up to be lovely...
:Bowdown:
:)

[brickcitybrother]

Yea... case by case basis. There are non-trans women who need make-up to get me started - conversely I've know trans-women who right out of the box are simply lovely.

[postopadmirer]

Make up is not required but it helps. Make up can work magic both for TG and GG girls.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Make up is not required but it helps. Make up can work magic both for TG and GG girls.
In reply to this

Before and After...taken on the same day

One was right when I woke up in the morning

And then the second one was right before I got on cam

[Rusty Eldora]

Kelly-
A nice difference between the two, but per the pics in the other thread, being awake takes you most of the way. Add a smile and you have every man in the room.

-Rusty

[Quiet Reflections]

i like little to no make up but some girls do really need it to pass, You Ms Dazzler are not one of those girls.

[timid1]

between my chronic hangovers and general lazy demeanor make up is a hassle i try to avoid lol

Looking mighty fine there without Amber x :)

[timid1]

This is a question for the guys -

Bio women can get away with not wearing makeup and look female... most of us trans women do need makeup to at least look more passable or presentable as women.

Guys, do you need the trans woman to have makeup on ? to at least have her actually look female or to "turn you on"?

Here is one of me without make up and another picture with smoky, clubbing eye makeup on for you guys to look at for the sake of this discussion.

I feel so self-conscious without makeup on. lol.

Wow! Nice to see both pics! Any girl or tgirl ,can enhance her appearance with a little make-up. I like the natural look , but would admit to liking the pic on the right .... but you are pouting slightly in the right pic? , have a lower cut neck-line and of course your glasses make for a slightly more "business -like" pose . You look lovely in the left photo too , just different as well . You have lovely eyes and kissable lips! Be confident in your own beauty MsDazzler! x

[Jackal]

In general, I always liked makeup on gg or tg women because it has a very feminine fragrance like perfume. But I started dating a transwoman a few weeks ago who looks much better without the makeup. It can go either way as to which looks better

[MsDazzler]

Do you notice any difference in sex appeal or self-confidence when a trans woman has makeup on versus not having any on?

For example, I feel way much sexier and feeling my sex appeal exuding when I've got some falsies to flutter my eyes at the guy, and dramatic eyemakeup.... all the more to seduce him with...

As opposed to me just rolling out of bed, with my hair frizzy and puffy eyes... and trying to jump his bones lol

[postopadmirer]

In reply to this

Before and After...taken on the same day

One was right when I woke up in the morning

And then the second one was right before I got on cam

Kelly you are a knockout, but honestly a lot of women would be happy if they could pull of how pretty you are in the first shot.


The makeup shot is just the wip cream on top.

[MsDazzler]

okay... I have been experimenting with a variety of looks.... natural, nude, soft colors, heavy, smoky, clubbing, etc...

The look that just consistently get a lot of attention is:

SMOKY, RED LIPS, and FALSIES....

So, guys, the smoky look rules! lol

Here is an example:

[up_for_it]

Nah,I like them all natural.

[youngblood61]

Very pretty Ms. Dazzler!:)

[nysprod]

In reply to this

Before and After...taken on the same day

One was right when I woke up in the morning

And then the second one was right before I got on cam

I think both looks are great...both have a time and place.

[MsDazzler]

Nah,I like them all natural.

Yeah... I am natural in daily life but just love makeup for going out

[eded]

It is not necessary

[csmith987]

Hi MsDazzler,

Upon inspection of your side by side comparison, I would like to say that you are quite attractive without the make up. While yes any girl can make herself look like a hollywood starlet with makeup, but not many can have that natural beauty one sees as she awakens in the morning next to you in bed. I think you have it in abundance, and glasses are always sexy too. The makeup persona implies someone you might f__k. In your natural state, you are someone to be made love to.

[filghy2]

A bit too late I think guys. She hasn't posted since 2013.

[nycguy1]

makeup is always better than not. it's like a guy who is unkempt, unclean. this compared to a guy who is in a nice suit, nicely shaven or well kept beard, nice haircut, nice shoes, etc. visuals matter as we are animals and visually choose our mates and all things around us.

[Cereal Escapist]

though I don't usually participate in that much thread necromancy except to point it out....I have never met a woman that did not look better with tastefully applied make up.

[Fitzcarraldo]

The ancient question wasn't about which looks better, it was if makeup is necessary for transwomen to pass or at least be appealing. And of course the answer depends on the woman and the observer.

[Plugs22]

Like others have said it depends on the individual person.

You however MsDazzler definitely don’t need the make-up. You look good with or without

[mikey_stl]

I prefer a more natural look, or minimal make-up, for those who can pull it off. A lot ladies look good in make-up, but it is often over-done, in my opinion.

[mikey_stl]

This is a question for the guys -

Bio women can get away with not wearing makeup and look female... most of us trans women do need makeup to at least look more passable or presentable as women.

Guys, do you need the trans woman to have makeup on ? to at least have her actually look female or to "turn you on"?

Here is one of me without make up and another picture with smoky, clubbing eye makeup on for you guys to look at for the sake of this discussion.

I feel so self-conscious without makeup on. lol.

I actually prefer the one without the make-up, although somewhere between the two would be fine, too. You have a nice, natural beauty that doesn't need a lot of make-up.