Facial Feminization Surgery (FFS)

[MsDazzler]

I tried searching for this topic on this forums but found none... FFS was a hot topic on another forum, probably because that forum is dominated by mostly late transitioners (white MTFs in their late 40s or 50s) and most of them actually do need FFS, because you know, to transition that LATE in life after years of testosterone's influence on the face....

What is your stand on FFS? Too much or what?

[TS Evelyn Summers]

Some need it.....Some dont......


Start hormones & get castrated BEFORE your very first puberty stats, and you are in like flynn!


Wait till you are 40 to transition...well......less dramatic effects take place.


Start young has always been the motto!


and as of now...you can start when you are 2 years old apparently to have a sex change....


the world has changed...


From the Klu Klux Klan.....To a Black Man in the white house.....


And I dunno if any of it is for the better!

[Rabbiteyes]

I been considering FFS a lot. I don't "NEED" it (I pass without it a lot).... but, it would make me look better, and, well, that would be nice.

There are just so many risks that come with it (and it is expensive). I don't mind surgeries, just they are traumatic to go through.

[MsDazzler]

I hear that the jaw work is the most painful procedure to go through, even more than SRS itself.... I think I look fine but I just would like to do a hairline lowering.

Do you think most of the porn stars have had FFS done?

[HarajukuDollxoxo]

I hear that the jaw work is the most painful procedure to go through, even more than SRS itself.... I think I look fine but I just would like to do a hairline lowering.

Do you think most of the porn stars have had FFS done?

seriously? :( Jaw work is the only thing I want to get done, but DAMN if it hurts more than srs, i may pass..:ignore:

[MsDazzler]

Yeah... I think not the only actual physical pain from itself, too... but for the fact that it basically makes eating HELL for the next several months.

[HarajukuDollxoxo]

Yeah... I think not the only actual physical pain from itself, too... but for the fact that it basically makes eating HELL for the next several months.

Months?! Omg. Do they like break your jaw or something :confused: *searches youtube for procedure videos* lol

[Rabbiteyes]

Chin , Jaw, Nose, Brow, lips for me (I'm a perfectionist ~_~).

On one hand, it is just a bunch of money and a few months feeling horrribbleee.

On the other hand, it could kill you or mess up your face and damage all sorts of nerves so you can't even talk right.

Hmmm.... it is really a tricky thing. If I were to do it, I would want to get as much at once done though (since, well, if it takes a few months for just a nose-job to go down, might as well get it all over with and get on with life).

Maybe some day... in a year or two ~_~

[Jericho]

Do you think most of the porn stars have had FFS done?

Enough of them around here, try asking them. :shrug

[MsDazzler]

Months?! Omg. Do they like break your jaw or something :confused: *searches youtube for procedure videos* lol

I have read stories, viewed some pics.... the jaw reduction/realignment procedure by far ranked as the most painful... and the recovery time was no peach either.

Also, while you are recovering from SRS, it is easily disguised because it is all in your pants...

But with your face... tons of swelling and bruising...

Yeah.. they basically take apart your jaw and reconstruct it again...

[natina]

TRY THIS

http://www.virtualffs.co.uk/

http://www.secondtype.info/skeleton.htm

http://www.secondtype.info/bodysize.htm

http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/~mirror/FFS/LynnsFFS.html


Facial Feminization Surgery (FFS) refers to surgical procedures, which will alter a masculine face to a feminine shape through the use of plastic surgery, reconstructive surgery, and maxillofacial surgery.

Procedures range from the use of soft tissue procedures, facial fillers, implants, to more invasive procedures involving the buring (grinding) of facial bones, and the cutting (osteotomy) of facial bones.

Due to the fact people differ in facial characteristics; a combination of serval procedures may need to be used to alter the face to the desired result to feminize the face. Most people refer to Facial Feminization Surgery as FFS when describing it.

There are a number of surgical procedures that can be used to feminize the face when it comes to FFS. Depending on your facial structure and degree of masculine features, one or many of the following procedures can be used to feminize the transsexual face:

Forehead contouring: Complated by a high speed bur
Forehead reconstruction: Complated by cutting out a section or sections of the frontal skull
Forehead compression/controlled facture: Research in progress
Jaw tapering: Completed by a high speed bur or a bone saw
Chin contouring/Mentoplasty: Completed by a high speed bur and or chin inplant
Sliding genioplasty: Completed by cutting and removing the chin
Cheekbone augmentation Through the use of implants
Cheekbone reduction Complated by a high speed bur
Lip contouring/Lip lift
trachea shave
blepharoplasty (Eyelid surgery to correct sagging or drooping of the eyelids)
Rhinoplasty
Facial Implants
Facial Fillers
Facelift

FFS surgeon listings

Further links about surgery can also be found at the bottom of this page.

This surgery is not limited to female to male transsexuals; since there are also options that can be applied to help female to male transsexuals using this type of surgery to obtain masculine features. I will be adding Facial Masculinization Surgery information at a future date.




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[MsDazzler]

Did the person in that virtual FFS poster actually go through with it or was it just a simulation to see what could be done?

[MsDazzler]

I also have heard that it is best to wait until you have done hormones for few years to see how it reshapes your face?

And the surgeon can only do so much - a man with a face with heavily male characteristics is not really going to turn into a beauty queen , right? Also, I think the size of the skull cannot be changed as well

[Donkey]

Also, I think the size of the skull cannot be changed as well
Ya think?

[innocentbychoice]

I also have heard that it is best to wait until you have done hormones for few years to see how it reshapes your face?

I think you're right about that. Hormones change the skin texture and the distribution of fat in your body and face, so it can look more feminine with time. Hormones of course will never change your bone structure (they might alter your bone density though, but don't quote me on that I'm not too sure about it).

[LibertyHarkness]

i had FFS in thailand in sept 2010 .. i had my mandibles reduced, my jaw bone reduce, my lips shaped, my chin reshaped and reduce.. my nose first part of nose work done ..

It took me about 2months to not look like a football and like a year for the full swelling to go away ..

[LibertyHarkness]

i have some more FFS tweaks next year schedule to finish of my face .. to clean up the core work from the first bout ..

so next time i will have the following

- Brow lift
- 2nd part of Nose work (rhinoplasty) (reduce tip/width and slight upturn, pack out top of nose to remove the lump i have.)
- cheek implants
- lower/mini face lift to remove excess skin left over from jaw reduction previously. basically to tighten the skin to the new jaw line so its sharp and clean looking, also move of the muscle under jaw/chin to set it back so it doesnt show .. you know that double chin look etc ..

I think FFS is the key most surgery for a TS that needs face work unless your very young and have a naturally good structure face .. i didnt have that as i transition at 30 .. the world interacts with your face not your pussy ... :)

[alyssaluxor]

interesting may i know whos your doctor Libby?

[LibertyHarkness]

dr chettawatt in BKK x

[innocentbychoice]

i have some more FFS tweaks next year schedule to finish of my face .. to clean up the core work from the first bout ..

so next time i will have the following

- Brow lift
- 2nd part of Nose work (rhinoplasty) (reduce tip/width and slight upturn, pack out top of nose to remove the lump i have.)
- cheek implants
- lower/mini face lift to remove excess skin left over from jaw reduction previously. basically to tighten the skin to the new jaw line so its sharp and clean looking, also move of the muscle under jaw/chin to set it back so it doesnt show .. you know that double chin look etc ..

I think FFS is the key most surgery for a TS that needs face work unless your very young and have a naturally good structure face .. i didnt have that as i transition at 30 .. the world interacts with your face not your pussy ... :)

Exactly. I wish more TS knew this. I mean, I know it is a personal choice but I don't understand why some are so eager to get the SRS while still looking very veeery masculine, as if a vagina is gonna validate their female status when they don't look female at all.

[runround04]

i have some more FFS tweaks next year schedule to finish of my face .. to clean up the core work from the first bout ..

so next time i will have the following

- Brow lift
- 2nd part of Nose work (rhinoplasty) (reduce tip/width and slight upturn, pack out top of nose to remove the lump i have.)
- cheek implants
- lower/mini face lift to remove excess skin left over from jaw reduction previously. basically to tighten the skin to the new jaw line so its sharp and clean looking, also move of the muscle under jaw/chin to set it back so it doesnt show .. you know that double chin look etc ..

I think FFS is the key most surgery for a TS that needs face work unless your very young and have a naturally good structure face .. i didnt have that as i transition at 30 .. the world interacts with your face not your pussy ... :)


Most guys wouldnt mind changing that. lol

[alyssaluxor]

dr chettawatt in BKK x

thanks for the info sweetie
thats also where my ts friends had breast and srs/grs

[alyssaluxor]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/562510_10150738501007744_949104077_n.jpg

[alyssaluxor]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/527071_10150738571217744_193393032_n.jpg

[alyssaluxor]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/524004_10150766885432744_953711604_n.jpg

[MsDazzler]

i have some more FFS tweaks next year schedule to finish of my face .. to clean up the core work from the first bout ..

so next time i will have the following

- Brow lift
- 2nd part of Nose work (rhinoplasty) (reduce tip/width and slight upturn, pack out top of nose to remove the lump i have.)
- cheek implants
- lower/mini face lift to remove excess skin left over from jaw reduction previously. basically to tighten the skin to the new jaw line so its sharp and clean looking, also move of the muscle under jaw/chin to set it back so it doesnt show .. you know that double chin look etc ..

I think FFS is the key most surgery for a TS that needs face work unless your very young and have a naturally good structure face .. i didnt have that as i transition at 30 .. the world interacts with your face not your pussy ... :)

well, is that your face post FFS in your avatar pic?

[LibertyHarkness]

yeah he is lovely alyssa :) really sweet guy and doctor .. yep its my face post ffs ...as i had it done in 2010 and we are now in 2012/13 :)

I had a big big jaw/ big nose ...etc ... FFS is about time and generally most people will require a few rounds of surgeries over a few years to get it fully right ..

though it helps if you have an endgame image of what you sort of want to resemble . but you cant rush it ... do some surgery, heal recover etc. then do abit more .. and done ..

[MsDazzler]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/527071_10150738571217744_193393032_n.jpg

Did you get castrated or SRS intis picture?