Are You Okay With Vintage Porn On Tube Sites

[TSPornFan]

It has been debated about weather or not porn should be allowed on tube sites. I have an unique question to ask. Are you okay with Vintage porn on tube sites? Vintage porn is very old. Vintage porn isn't always available to buy online. Some vintage porn movies are not online. VOD on demand sites forces people to download the entire movie instead of individual scenes.

Tube sites may be the only way most porn viewers today are able to watch vintage porn.

Are you okay with Vintage porn on tube sites?

[loveboof]

Yeah, I'm ok with it. Tbh I don't have a problem with tube sites showing anything... What do I care if porn stars / producers earn a little less? :/

[LibertyHarkness]

no i am not unless the owners of the material have allowed it to happen .. Theft is theft .

[GroobySteven]

no i am not unless the owners of the material have allowed it to happen .. Theft is theft .

The truth.

[GroobySteven]

Yeah, I'm ok with it. Tbh I don't have a problem with tube sites showing anything... What do I care if porn stars / producers earn a little less? :/

Don't be a cunt. Without the pornstars and producers earning - then you don't have new content, you don't have new girls coming into the industry and you don't have this site.

[loveboof]

Don't be a cunt. Without the pornstars and producers earning - then you don't have new content, you don't have new girls coming into the industry and you don't have this site.

Yep - all good things! But in reality, my life would not even slightly be affected by the lack of them...

I'm not a huge porn consumer like some of the guys here.

[JenniferParisHusband]

I normally like to respect copyrights, and fund the talent behind them. But in some cases, like I'm a big fan of 70's GG star Sheena Horne, most of her videos are next to impossible to find on DVD and sometimes even VHS, in that kind of situation where they probably won't be available ever again, I'm all for sharing.

[GroobySteven]

Yep - all good things! But in reality, my life would not even slightly be affected by the lack of them...

I'm not a huge porn consumer like some of the guys here.

Then you can do without this site. I'll save the bandwidth for those who appreciate it.

[TSPornFan]

Don't be a cunt. Without the pornstars and producers earning - then you don't have new content, you don't have new girls coming into the industry and you don't have this site.

I understand what you're saying about more recent content that can be easily brought from sites and porn stores. However, how are pornstars and producers hurt by Vintage porn on tube sites? The content is over 15 years old. It is not being reproduced. Vintage porn has never been reproduced. Who is being hurt? I am not taking sides. I'm just asking an honest question.

[EvaCassini]

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[Jamie French]

That's not true at all. When's the last time you were at an adult DVD store or novelty shop? They have dedicated sections for 'vintage' porn in most stores. I know first hand having worked behind the counter of several porn stores and stocking the shelves with that stuff. It's a product, someone holds the copyright to it and whether it's made available to the public or not lends no credence to theft. You aren't entitled to unnecessary things for free just because they aren't made readily available to you.

[bluesoul]

I understand what you're saying about more recent content that can be easily brought from sites and porn stores. However, how are pornstars and producers hurt by Vintage porn on tube sites? The content is over 15 years old. It is not being reproduced. Vintage porn has never been reproduced. Who is being hurt? I am not taking sides. I'm just asking an honest question.

check out this answer:


no i am not unless the owners of the material have allowed it to happen .. Theft is theft .

also, you're being affected because you're having trouble identifying what theft is.

[DeliaTS]

Yeah, I'm ok with it. Tbh I don't have a problem with tube sites showing anything... What do I care if porn stars / producers earn a little less? :/

Yep - all good things! But in reality, my life would not even slightly be affected by the lack of them...

I'm not a huge porn consumer like some of the guys here.

Sweet I will add you to my ignore list. I suggest other porn stars and producers here do the same. You don't care about me, I don't care about you. :loser:

[TSPornFan]

That's not true at all. When's the last time you were at an adult DVD store or novelty shop? They have dedicated sections for 'vintage' porn in most stores. I know first hand having worked behind the counter of several porn stores and stocking the shelves with that stuff. It's a product, someone holds the copyright to it and whether it's made available to the public or not lends no credence to theft. You aren't entitled to unnecessary things for free just because they aren't made readily available to you.

I've been to porno stores before. There wasn't a section for Vintage porn. Those movies are becoming harder to obtain because companies aren't reproducing them.

[GroobySteven]

I understand what you're saying about more recent content that can be easily brought from sites and porn stores. However, how are pornstars and producers hurt by Vintage porn on tube sites? The content is over 15 years old. It is not being reproduced. Vintage porn has never been reproduced. Who is being hurt? I am not taking sides. I'm just asking an honest question.

I do understand what you are saying. I was calling Loveboof a cunt for his general post but as I understand it, he's left the forum anyway.

It's a difficult question because if it's not being reproduced it still is somebodies copyright and they may have plans. I'd love to buy the rights to some of that material but then I'd have to get those costs back.
There are sites showing ancient TV shows but I believe on legitimate ones, the owner will be getting paid, unlike tube sites.

[GroobySteven]

also, you're being affected because you're having trouble identifying what theft is.


No, it's YOU has a trouble identifying what theft is. Steal from me, you are a theif. End of story.

[loveboof]

Then you can do without this site. I'll save the bandwidth for those who appreciate it.
I enjoy some of the banter on here, but this is just a forum. Anyway, I was under the impression this place was free? (funded by advertising)


Sweet I will add you to my ignore list. I suggest other porn stars and producers here do the same. You don't care about me, I don't care about you. :loser:
That's your call Delia, but that perfectly highlights the difference between you and me. You don't give a shit about anyone here if they ain't putting a buck in your pocket, where as I'm simply here to interact with the community. I didn't peg you for such a shallow person, but there you have it - ignore away :)


I was calling Loveboof a cunt for his general post but as I understand it, he's left the forum anyway.
Dude if you ban me for this, then good night & good riddance... Was that just threat or what?

[GrimFusion]

I enjoy some of the banter on here, but this is just a forum. Anyway, I was under the impression this place was free? (funded by advertising)
Funded by people who buy porn or site memberships by referral. The advertising doesn't work otherwise. If you're not interested, try contributing something more than a few pics and a bunch of posts that piss people off.


That's your call Delia, but that perfectly highlights the difference between you and me. You don't give a shit about anyone here if they ain't putting a buck in your pocket, where as I'm simply here to interact with the community. I didn't peg you for such a shallow person, but there you have it - ignore away :)
If she's willing to talk to your dumb ass, it's obvious she's not just about the money. Stealing porn isn't the same as downloading an MP3; chances are you're not going to purchase the site memberships or the DVD after watching a stolen scene more than a few times. That's why most production companies only release teaser footage to reputable and legal tube sites. By downloading illegal porn, you're not only denying the production companies and actors the income they need to continue making new films and content, you're stealing money from them, as otherwise you would have had to pay to see the same scenes. Knowing that you're chilling around here while contributing to sapping the money out of the community is good enough reason to put you on ignore... and the best you can come up with is "[you're] such a shallow person". Sad.

:smh

[loveboof]

Funded by people who buy porn or site memberships by referral. The advertising doesn't work otherwise. If you're not interested, try contributing something more than a few pics and a bunch of posts that piss people off.


If she's willing to talk to your dumb ass, it's obvious she's not just about the money. Stealing porn isn't the same as downloading an MP3; chances are you're not going to purchase the site memberships or the DVD after watching a stolen scene more than a few times. That's why most production companies only release teaser footage to reputable and legal tube sites. By downloading illegal porn, you're not only denying the production companies and actors the income they need to continue making new films and content, you're stealing money from them, as otherwise you would have had to pay to see the same scenes. Knowing that you're chilling around here while contributing to sapping the money out of the community is good enough reason to put you on ignore... and the best you can come up with is "[you're] such a shallow person". Sad.

:smh
Jesus, here come the half-baked interjections...

This site isn't about making money directly, it is promotional. That means it benefits from a rich and populace community - not everyone needs to be clicking all the ads for it to work as intended.

Secondly, it is pretty obvious that Delia isn't 'willing to talk to my dumb ass' as she didn't hesitate to pop me on ignore the moment she thought I was not a potential revenue stream. In itself that was pretty stupid because all I said was I'm not a 'huge consumer'. I have wasted money on porn and cam sites plenty of times...

None of that changes the fact that I don't care what goes up on tube sites. Why should I? I don't watch them, I don't upload to them, I don't work in porn, and I don't know anyone who does.

Remind me again why I should give the slightest fuck about porn tube sites?

As I said, my life would not change in any significant way if the whole porn industry imploded. Sorry if that offends some people here - but you all need to realise that not everyone cares about the stuff you think is important...

[GrimFusion]

Jesus, here come the half-baked interjections...

This site isn't about making money directly, it is promotional. That means it benefits from a rich and populace community - not everyone needs to be clicking all the ads for it to work as intended.

Secondly, it is pretty obvious that Delia isn't 'willing to talk to my dumb ass' as she didn't hesitate to pop me on ignore the moment she thought I was not a potential revenue stream. In itself that was pretty stupid because all I said was I'm not a 'huge consumer'. I have wasted money on porn and cam sites plenty of times...

None of that changes the fact that I don't care what goes up on tube sites. Why should I? I don't watch them, I don't upload to them, I don't work in porn, and I don't know anyone who does.

Remind me again why I should give the slightest fuck about porn tube sites?

As I said, my life would not change in any significant way if the whole porn industry imploded. Sorry if that offends some people here - but you all need to realise that not everyone cares about the stuff you think is important...

That's an incredibly asinine opinion. You're talking about activity that you admit negatively affects the same community you supposedly count yourself a member of, but you couldn't care less. How would you expect anything but disrespect from people when you flat-out state that you don't care about them or their careers? You seem to count yourself intelligent, so I'd suspect you'd realize that even contrived empathy works in your favor and the guilty are best to remain silent, which means you're just stirring the shit pot for reaction. You certainly seem to have that proficiency. If that weren't true, you would have been intelligent enough to keep your opinion to yourself to avoid this discussion; everyone none-the-wiser. Dumb ass.

By all means, keep talking. Don't bother with any apology either. You're winning over hearts and minds by the bushel-full. I'm your biggest fan.

[DeliaTS]

I enjoy some of the banter on here, but this is just a forum. Anyway, I was under the impression this place was free? (funded by advertising)


That's your call Delia, but that perfectly highlights the difference between you and me. You don't give a shit about anyone here if they ain't putting a buck in your pocket, where as I'm simply here to interact with the community. I didn't peg you for such a shallow person, but there you have it - ignore away :)


Dude if you ban me for this, then good night & good riddance... Was that just threat or what?

I think you got that so wrong loveboof. There are many people on this forum that have never put a buck in my pocket that I truly enjoy. Not a single one of them has ever said that they don't give a shit about me or if I continue to be able to earn of living off of doing something I enjoy as you did.

This is a transsexual porn forum run by a producer that exists largely due to the transsexual sex workers that post here largely to promote themselves. For you to say that it really wouldn't effect you if we no longer existed is a really shitty comment and makes me think that you are a really shitty person.

[loveboof]

You seem to count yourself intelligent, so I'd suspect you'd realize that even contrived empathy works in your favor

Don't bother with any apology either.
Urgh! What a disgusting notion you've just espoused.. that is such a malign, shady thing to say! Is that what you do? Fuck, if i'm one thing it's honest - you can take your conniving contrivances...

And what would you have me apologise for? My honesty?



For you to say that it really wouldn't effect you if we no longer existed is a really shitty comment and makes me think that you are a really shitty person.

Presumably you would actually continue to exist without the porn industry... like wouldn't you just get another job or something? lol

Talking of presumptions, do you think you know enough about me to conclude I'm a shitty person? nah.. you don't. And I'm not.

[GrimFusion]

Urgh! What a disgusting notion you've just espoused.. that is such a malign, shady thing to say! Is that what you do? Fuck, if i'm one thing it's honest - you can take your conniving contrivances...

And what would you have me apologise for? My honesty?

We're not talking about me, and I didn't pose the accusation at myself. Great going on completely avoiding a real response, though. That's super honest!

[MdR Dave]

. . .Stealing porn isn't the same as downloading an MP3. . .
What distinction do you draw here?

[Jamie French]

From everything I read so far, you are a shitty person.

No one here cares about your principles. On a porn forum, principles are pretty lousy legs to stand on. Use your brain and do the strategically sound thing. Lie to us, get on your knees, swallow your principled pride and lie to the ones whose house you are actively shitting in.

Standing your ground holds no weight. Your crime is egregious. Humiliate yourself for our amusement.

Lie to us.

[wiltthestilt]

What distinction do you draw here?

Yeah, I dont follow that either. Unauthorized use is unauthorized use, porn or otherwise.

[Willie Escalade]

That's not true at all. When's the last time you were at an adult DVD store or novelty shop? They have dedicated sections for 'vintage' porn in most stores. I know first hand having worked behind the counter of several porn stores and stocking the shelves with that stuff. It's a product, someone holds the copyright to it and whether it's made available to the public or not lends no credence to theft. You aren't entitled to unnecessary things for free just because they aren't made readily available to you.
At the porn store I used to work at, we had a vintage section as well. Even though they were all pretty much VHS tapes (and about ten DVDs), it was there. We even had vintage magazines...including some I had to destroy because Traci Lords were in them.

[loveboof]

From everything I read so far, you are a shitty person.

No one here cares about your principles. On a porn forum, principles are pretty lousy legs to stand on. Use your brain and do the strategically sound thing. Lie to us, get on your knees, swallow your principled pride and lie to the ones whose house you are actively shitting in.

Standing your ground holds no weight. Your crime is egregious. Humiliate yourself for our amusement.

Lie to us.

lol. Yeah maybe you guys are right!

Out of the people talking about manipulative 'contrived empathy' and abandoning your principles, I must be the shitty person here...

(did I detect a slightly light-hearted undertone to your post there Jamie, or were you actually being that laughably dramatic?)

[DeliaTS]

Presumably you would actually continue to exist without the porn industry... like wouldn't you just get another job or something? lol

Talking of presumptions, do you think you know enough about me to conclude I'm a shitty person? nah.. you don't. And I'm not.

Well once again your presumption is wrong. I actually would not continue to exist without the porn industry. Delia DeLions would die a tragic death without the support of paying porn consumers.


I'm simply here to interact with the community..

Exactly what community are you here to interact with anyway. Oh yeah, the TS porn community. The very same community that you say you could care less if it existed at all. Brilliant!

Okay so whether you are a shitty person or not is debatable. However the attitudes you have expressed in this thread make it clear that you are someone that I sure as hell don't want anything to do with. If that makes me shallow than so be it.

[GrimFusion]

What distinction do you draw here?
When pirates download music it's with the intent to listen to... and share the music. Music piracy can help boost the popularity of a song or artist. Eventually users like me end up hearing the music online somewhere and buy off of iTunes or purchase a CD. I'm not saying music piracy is condonable, though. When pirates download porn it's with the intent of subverting DVD purchase or membership site signup. We're not talking about the legal 3-5 minute branded promo clips, but full scenes straight from production company or independently-funded membership sites. Why buy the cow? Paying money kinda keeps the wheels turning. If recording artists started getting paid dirt for writing or playing music, there would still be music. The same can't be said for the porn industry unless you really like amateurs and webcams.

[Cecil Rhodes]

Without the Internet where could i find classics like this vintage late 1930s S&M Lezdom clip ?

GONE WITH THE WOMEN - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hE7w7KaKbmM&feature=player_detailpage)

[loveboof]

Well your presumption is wrong. I actually would not continue to exist without the porn industry. Delia DeLions would die a tragic death without the support of paying porn consumers.

Delia DeLions being your porn persona? You (as an actual person) would just have to get a different job...



Exactly what community are you here to interact with anyway. Oh yeah, the TS porn community. The very same community that you say you could care less if it existed at all. Brilliant!

Okay so whether you are a shitty person or not is debatable. However the attitudes you have expressed in this thread make it clear that you are someone that I sure as hell don't want anything to do with. If that makes me shallow than so be it.
I said my life would not be significantly changed without porn, and that I don't care what people upload onto tube sites. Let's not get carried away here!


If recording artists started getting paid dirt for writing or playing music, there would still be music. The same can't be said for the porn industry
That says something interesting about the artistic status of porn.

[DeliaTS]

I said my life would not be significantly changed without porn, and that I don't care what people upload onto tube sites. Let's not get carried away here!


Hmm . . . I thought you said this too?



As I said, my life would not change in any significant way if the whole porn industry imploded. Sorry if that offends some people here - but you all need to realise that not everyone cares about the stuff you think is important...

Yes it might come as a shock to you to know that it IS OFFENSIVE to come on to a forum that is made up largely of porn industry peeps and fans and basically say you have zero respect for us. Then go on to say that you don't care that we think protecting our lively hood is important.


Delia DeLions being your porn persona? You (as an actual person) would just have to get a different job...


Yes Delia along with all the other porn personas and our fans that you seem to be so interested in interacting with on this forum would be gone. Why are you here again?

[loveboof]

Why are you here again?

Well I'm not flogging anything, so that could why you're having a hard time working it out...

Seeing as you're perfectly happy to put words in my mouth, maybe you should just answer your own questions and pretend I said it? lol (nobody will know the difference anyway)

[DeliaTS]

Well I'm not flogging anything, so that could why you're having a hard time working it out...

Seeing as you're perfectly happy to put words in my mouth, maybe you should just answer your own questions and pretend I said it? lol (nobody will know the difference anyway)

Yes, I'm just a stupid porn star these things are way too hard for me to figure out. Brain . . . hurting . . .

I could put something else in your mouth but I think you would enjoy it a little too much.

[DeliaTS]

Well I'm not flogging anything, so that could why you're having a hard time working it out...


Seriously though, wouldn't you be sad if the TS porn world imploded and hungangels and all your favorite TS personas here just vanished? I mean wouldn't that kind of suck? Or would it really be no big deal to you?

[GroobySteven]

I enjoy some of the banter on here, but this is just a forum. Anyway, I was under the impression this place was free? (funded by advertising)

This site isn't about making money directly, it is promotional. That means it benefits from a rich and populace community - not everyone needs to be clicking all the ads for it to work as intended.

As I said, my life would not change in any significant way if the whole porn industry imploded. Sorry if that offends some people here - but you all need to realise that not everyone cares about the stuff you think is important...

Dude if you ban me for this, then good night & good riddance... Was that just threat or what?

It is free and supported by advertising and clearly nobody believes everyone on this forum buys or contributes. It benefits from the community by bringing people in. However, it's one thing to use the forum and quite another to basically say to the ownership and population, fuck your industry, I don't give a shit about it. That's akin to being invited into my house, eating my food, enjoying the company and then squatting on the floor to take a big shit.

You can take a vacation for the forum for a couple of weeks. If we see you back, then clearly, you would have "cared".

[loveboof]

However, it's one thing to use the forum and quite another to basically say to the ownership and population, fuck your industry, I don't give a shit about it. That's akin to being invited into my house, eating my food, enjoying the company and then squatting on the floor to take a big shit.

You can take a vacation for the forum for a couple of weeks. If we see you back, then clearly, you would have "cared".
Fine, I'll go.

But just for the record, the thing I don't care about is what's uploaded onto tube sites.

Would I be able to cope without porn, yes. That is true of the majority of people here who aren't masturbation addicts or pornographers. That does not mean I want you all out of work, or that you should cease to exist!


Seriously though, wouldn't you be sad if the TS porn world imploded and hungangels and all your favorite TS personas here just vanished? I mean wouldn't that kind of suck? Or would it really be no big deal to you?

You are pretty hot Delia. It would be a great shame if the world was deprived of your lovely pictures and videos!

[DeliaTS]

That's your call Delia, but that perfectly highlights the difference between you and me. You don't give a shit about anyone here if they ain't putting a buck in your pocket, where as I'm simply here to interact with the community. I didn't peg you for such a shallow person, but there you have it - ignore away :)


And for the record I do give a shit about most of the people here which is why when I see someone acting like pirated porn stolen from MY community is no big deal and propagating the myth that it doesn't even constitute a crime it really irritates me.

I know that most of the people here use stolen content in one form or another. Hell I'm guilty of it myself but I also make it a point to join a few sites a year not only for research purposes (:jerkoff) but to give a little back and support my peers.



You are pretty hot Delia. It would be a great shame if the world was deprived of your lovely pictures and videos!

Thank you :) I've been in this business for almost 10 years now and have survived the ups and downs so chances are I'll be around for a few more.

[Females+Shemales]

Works for me.

[Cecil Rhodes]

It us the only place that i found any video of Anita Dark before her Breast Reduction . Thiese videos were done when she 1st started her career for less than a year and only exist in private collections .