Let's talk about Interracial TS porn.

[TSPornFan]

It's well known that popular genetic female pornstars receive backlash for having sex with black men.

I thought about this after looking at Sunshyne Monroe's thread. Congrats for taking some BBC. However, there are some TS pornstars who refuse to have sex with black men. There are two types of people who do this.

Type number one- A TS who isn't attracted to black men. That's fine. We all have different tastes. That's not racist.

Type number two-A TS who refuses to have sex with black men solely based on skin color.

Sadly America is still a very racist country. We are not a unified group. Ignorant people have divided themselves based on skin color. They do not tolerate non-blacks having relationships with black men.

There has been a small increase in interracial relationships. However, not too many people are accepting of this. In my state it is still illegal on the books for African Americans to marry a White American. The law is not enforced. However, a judge could enforce it because it is on the books.

How much backlash do TS pornstars get for having sex with us sexy black men?

Are the TS pornstars who don't perform interracial racist or are the uninterested in black men?

[tragicomedy]

What about all the racist, beta, insecure black men who are fixated on IR porn featuring black men because it allows them to live out their black supremacist fantasies? It is about time we put you guys under the microscope.

[TSPornFan]

What about all the racist, beta, insecure black men who are fixated on IR porn featuring black men because it allows them to live out their black supremacist fantasies? It is about time we put you guys under the microscope.

I'm not sure how porn allows anyone to live out a fantasy? Do people jump out of your computer screen? Macbooks are amazing! Maybe I should buy one!

I admit there are some disgusting and racist IR scenes with black men or black women saying racist comments about whites. There is a site named Dogfart that makes racist scenes about blacks and whites. Personally this type of IR porn turns me off.

There are black men like myself who love white women and want to make love to them. Not all of us want to degrade someone.

[tragicomedy]

I think men live out their fantasies vicariously through the performers. Why else do guys complain when a weak, limp dick guy gets paired up with our favorite performers? Why do we ask to see x girl getting fucked in such and such type of scene? I know if I had my way there would be a huge increase in scenes with the tgirl.as a total bottom. I would also like to see a bunch of White and White Hispanic tops. That guy Christian is horrible. I see so many black dudes complainin' about the # of IR scenes and I'm thinking they do not know how good they have it.

[GroobySteven]

That guy Christian is horrible

You haven't been here long enough to be a dick.

[JenniferParisHusband]

I think men live out their fantasies vicariously through the performers. Why else do guys complain when a weak, limp dick guy gets paired up with our favorite performers? Why do we ask to see x girl getting fucked in such and such type of scene? I know if I had my way there would be a huge increase in scenes with the tgirl.as a total bottom. I would also like to see a bunch of White and White Hispanic tops. That guy Christian is horrible. I see so many black dudes complainin' about the # of IR scenes and I'm thinking they do not know how good they have it.

Hey now. I give Christian a lot of crap, because he's been with almost every lady I've ever dreamed about on here, and also because I secretly deeply envy him for that. But he's a nice guy, and good at what he does. If you've seen some of the other male performers out there, you've gotta agree with that. No need to be mean to the man. I agree with Seanchai on this. Play nice!

As for limp dicks in porn, it's a job. You try and get a hard on for someone you just aren't into. I give the guys a lot of credit for being able to. If I'm not into someone, it isn't going up with a jar of viagra and iron splints on either side.

IR scenes, it's a fetish. If that's what you're into, good on ya, if you aren't into it, there's a lot of porn to go around.

[TSPornFan]

I think men live out their fantasies vicariously through the performers. Why else do guys complain when a weak, limp dick guy gets paired up with our favorite performers? Why do we ask to see x girl getting fucked in such and such type of scene? I know if I had my way there would be a huge increase in scenes with the tgirl.as a total bottom. I would also like to see a bunch of White and White Hispanic tops. That guy Christian is horrible. I see so many black dudes complainin' about the # of IR scenes and I'm thinking they do not know how good they have it.

There are many new bottom scenes released every year especially by Grooby.

I think Christian is a good perform. You complain about guys with limp dicks. Christian doesn't have a hard on problem. What's your problem with him?

There are not many TS IR scenes. TS Seduction hasn't made an IR scene in over a year. Devil Film's rarely and I mean extremely rarely shoot IR scenes.

Grooby and SMC are the only companies that regularly shoot IR content.




IR scenes, it's a fetish. If that's what you're into, good on ya, if you aren't into it, there's a lot of porn to go around.

I'm black and I find this to be very offensive. How is it a fetish to see someone my skin color fuck a TS woman? That's like saying black men are a fetish.

[WendyWilliams]

Ummm IR is NOT a fetish.

I am a white transsexual who is attracted too and only date black men in my personal life. I like black men for many reasons not because of porn stereotypes. Its like saying men who are into transsexuals is a "fetish"........for men who experiment then yea maybe a fetish activity but for those who date and prefer ts women its a lifestyle not a fetish.


I shoot alot of IR content and I have heard it all LOL

[TSPornFan]

Ummm IR is NOT a fetish.

I am a white transsexual who is attracted too and only date black men in my personal life. I like black men for many reasons not because of porn stereotypes. Its like saying men who are into transsexuals is a "fetish"........for men who experiment then yea maybe a fetish activity but for those who date and prefer ts women its a lifestyle not a fetish.


I shoot alot of IR content and I have heard it all LOL

Thank You Wendy! Once again I'm surprised we agree on something. :wiggle:

[tragicomedy]

There are many new bottom scenes released every year especially by Grooby.

I think Christian is a good perform. You complain about guys with limp dicks. Christian doesn't have a hard on problem. What's your problem with him?

There are not many TS IR scenes. TS Seduction hasn't made an IR scene in over a year. Devil Film's rarely and I mean extremely rarely shoot IR scenes.

Grooby and SMC are the only companies that regularly shoot IR content.



I'm black and I find this to be very offensive. How is it a fetish to see someone my skin color fuck a TS woman? That's like saying black men are a fetish.
I can't reply to all the points you've made Franklin, so I'll just make 2 replies. In terms of IR for black dudes a fair amount of top scenes feature blck guys already so you re doing well there plus you have a whole IR site that features almost exclusively black tops. I don't see any english language site exclusively dedicated to non-black tops. I would like to see other demographics get site or too dedicated to them. Now as for Christian I will hold my comments on him becuse he is putting himself out there while I get to hide anonymously behind a.screen. I will.say that I would never have brought him up if there were more quality White tops on the scene.

[tragicomedy]

Ummm IR is NOT a fetish.

I am a white transsexual who is attracted too and only date black men in my personal life. I like black men for many reasons not because of porn stereotypes. Its like saying men who are into transsexuals is a "fetish"........for men who experiment then yea maybe a fetish activity but for those who date and prefer ts women its a lifestyle not a fetish.


I shoot alot of IR content and I have heard it all LOL
I would like to see you or a director.you.know.make.a.series or site using.masculine white tops fucking transwomen.

[amberskyi]

I'm black and I find this to be very offensive. How is it a fetish to see someone my skin color fuck a TS woman? That's like saying black men are a fetish.

actually the over sexualiztion of african american people is nothing new and can be found through out american history starting with slavery.

[tragicomedy]

Hey now. I give Christian a lot of crap, because he's been with almost every lady I've ever dreamed about on here, and also because I secretly deeply envy him for that. But he's a nice guy, and good at what he does. If you've seen some of the other male performers out there, you've gotta agree with that. No need to be mean to the man. I agree with Seanchai on this. Play nice!

As for limp dicks in porn, it's a job. You try and get a hard on for someone you just aren't into. I give the guys a lot of credit for being able to. If I'm not into someone, it isn't going up with a jar of viagra and iron splints on either side.

IR scenes, it's a fetish. If that's what you're into, good on ya, if you aren't into it, there's a lot of porn to go around.

I used "limp dick" in a broader sense to mean uninspired or underendowed performers. have a solution for recruiting more quality tops of all races. Let.the guy wer a mask or obschre the.face. Unless there is a legal barrier to obscuring a performers face, that is the fastest solution to.getting more male talent.

[tragicomedy]

actually the over sexualiztion of african american people is nothing new and can be found through out american history starting with slavery.

Amber, let me ask you: are you okay with doing a scene featuring a white, asian or other non black top? If ye hve you been asked and have you done one yet? I have seen few Non-black tops with black or partially black.bottoms.

[amberskyi]

Amber, let me ask you: are you okay with doing a scene featuring a white, asian or other non black top? If ye hve you been asked and have you done one yet? I have seen few Non-black tops with black or partially black.bottoms.

ive already done one.as far as im concerned in there to do a scene and get payed. lol

[TSPornFan]

I would like to see you or a director.you.know.make.a.series or site using.masculine white tops fucking transwomen.

There are many masculine white males fucking TS women in porn.

You complain about Christian. Yet, he is the type of guy you're requesting for. Serious WTF. :yayo:

Here is a list of them.

Wulf Hudson
Christian
This new guy- http://www.trannypros.com/en/Transsexual-Babysitters-20/scene/38977
This guy-http://www.trannypros.com/en/Transsexual-Cheerleaders-09/scene/37497
and this guy- http://www.trannypros.com/en/Transsexual-Cheerleaders-09/scene/37499

[SunshyneMonroe]

Lol thanks but too me it wasnt that big of a deal everyone knows i luv blk cock lol well anyone that follows me on twiter lol Its not that deep really its porn jack off and call it a day lol

[tragicomedy]

There are many masculine white males fucking TS women in porn.

You complain about Christian. Yet, he is the type of guy you're requesting for. Serious WTF. :yayo:

Here is a list of them.

Wulf Hudson
Christian
This new guy- http://www.trannypros.com/en/Transsexual-Babysitters-20/scene/38977
This guy-http://www.trannypros.com/en/Transsexual-Cheerleaders-09/scene/37497
and this guy- http://www.trannypros.com/en/Transsexual-Cheerleaders-09/scene/37499 And off the top of your head how many black dudes¿ There are bately enough white performers to field the male cast of most straight titles. That isn't even considering Asians or non-black Hispanics. The.solution is making it easier for quality guys of all races to come into.the industry. There are a lot of quality tops who woul
become available if they didn't have to.risk a career or what have you.

[GroobySteven]

And off the top of your head how many black dudes¿ There are bately enough white performers to field the male cast of most straight titles. That isn't even considering Asians or non-black Hispanics. The.solution is making it easier for quality guys of all races to come into.the industry. There are a lot of quality tops who woul
become available if they didn't have to.risk a career or what have you.

Wear a mask? I'm tired of hearing that - it's stupid and offensive to the models and to those viewing it. We use the guys we use because they're good, they perform well, the girls like them, they look decent and they show up. There are plenty of white male performers which we use but are you really suggesting a site that is exclusively white male performers?

It seems that you're more interested in the men in the porn then the women?

[GroobySteven]

And off the top of your head how many black dudes¿

Less than the white male performers.

[GroobySteven]

Amber, let me ask you: are you okay with doing a scene featuring a white, asian or other non black top? If ye hve you been asked and have you done one yet? I have seen few Non-black tops with black or partially black.bottoms.

Then you're not looking. I've got probably 100 scenes of this type.

[tragicomedy]

Wear a mask? I'm tired of hearing that - it's stupid and offensive to the models and to those viewing it. We use the guys we use because they're good, they perform well, the girls like them, they look decent and they show up. There are plenty of white male performers which we use but are you really suggesting a site that is exclusively white male performers?

It seems that you're more interested in the men in the porn then the women?

I was comparing to Wendys site. As for the masks its one solution. You have no others right now.

[GroobySteven]

I was comparing to Wendys site. As for the masks its one solution. You have no others right now.

It's not broken, I don't need a solution.

[WendyWilliams]

Its more about location then anything with black males. In Chicago we have CJ he is reliable, does great scene, big cock, tests monthly and NO complaints from him.

Here in Kentucky I have several guys I use (Flip, Brama Bull, etc).......Madison in Atlanta features a new guy every week and seems to have no issue finding black talent.

Then Remy has good male talent ETC

The problem is there just isn't enough work for male talent for them to take it serious (unless you are Wolf, Christian, Gabriel, etc).......


Finding RELIABLE male talent of ANY race is the issue.

[yourdaddy]

N.M.

[Willie Escalade]

Finding RELIABLE male talent of ANY race is the issue.
This is it right here.

:iagree:

[tragicomedy]

Its more about location then anything with black males. In Chicago we have CJ he is reliable, does great scene, big cock, tests monthly and NO complaints from him.

Here in Kentucky I have several guys I use (Flip, Brama Bull, etc).......Madison in Atlanta features a new guy every week and seems to have no issue finding black talent.

Then Remy has good male talent ETC

The problem is there just isn't enough work for male talent for them to take it serious (unless you are Wolf, Christian, Gabriel, etc).......


Finding RELIABLE male talent of ANY race is the issue.
Wendy, would you accept masked or pixelated faces on male talent if that meant you got reliable, top quality candidates to pick from? A lot of people are in careers where apearing in pornographic content means you will be fired or your career advancement will be killed.

[LibertyHarkness]

wendy is bang on the money there ... reliable talent is hard regardless ..

as to masked / pixelated crap, hell no i wouldnt touch that with a barge pole .. if people are worried about their work etc simply dont do porn ...

Also if a person wears a mask etc then they shouldnt expect payment either .

[WendyWilliams]

If the scene is a robber YES or a fetish but overall sorry NO. If someone is that worried about being seen than I really don't have time to handle that. Great scenes need good verbal, eye contact, kissing ETC so when you start allowing guys the mask route then you open pandora's box.

[tragicomedy]

wendy is bang on the money there ... reliable talent is hard regardless ..

as to masked / pixelated crap, hell no i wouldnt touch that with a barge pole .. if people are worried about their work etc simply dont do porn ...

Also if a person wears a mask etc then they shouldnt expect payment either .

A LOT of guys would work for free. Think of all the fans out there. Only a few would risk their job to appear in a porn film. If the chance of being caught was dramatically reduced it would open the pool of candidates by a large margin. Anyway there is definitely a market out there for guys who want to see tgirl total.bottom and.guy total.top films At present you have to mostly go to brazilian or thailand based sites for that.

[tragicomedy]

If the scene is a robber YES or a fetish but overall sorry NO. If someone is that worried about being seen than I really don't have time to handle that. Great scenes need good verbal, eye contact, kissing ETC so when you start allowing guys the mask route then you open pandora's box.

A luchedor mask.allows you eye contact kissing etc. I will drop it obviously its not.going to happen. I would ask that people don't neglect fans who are total tops. We are ignored for.the most part. Bottom fans.and.vers guys get a lot to choose from but tops have to go.to.brazilian or thai sites.

[rydermorrison]

A luchedor mask.allows you eye contact kissing etc. I will drop it obviously its not.going to happen. I would ask that people don't neglect fans who are total tops. We are ignored for.the most part. Bottom fans.and.vers guys get a lot to choose from but tops have to go.to.brazilian or thai sites.

thats not true.

[tragicomedy]

thats not true.

Well what do you think about it? I am speaking as a big fan. I think a lot of people think we want to ruin it for bottom and vers fans. Top.guys are probably 25% of the fan base but we don't get anywhere near that share of the titles. A lot of guys just see the guy getting fucked and just lose interest. We all have to share this genre and it just seems that brazil.and thailand based producers are willing to.cater to a.large.degree and American.producers are not.

[WendyWilliams]

IM not following your argument, on www.interracialtgirlsex.com all the girls bottom for their ebony studs.

SMC, Grooby (shemale pornstar) etc have ALOT Of scenes with tgirl bottoms.

[Wendy Summers]

Only a few would risk their job to appear in a porn film.


Bullshit argument. In order for someone to learn you're doing transporn, they have to decide to watch it -- someone in the closet will never out you to out themselves.

[tragicomedy]

IM not following your argument, on www.interracialtgirlsex.com all the girls bottom for their ebony studs.

SMC, Grooby (shemale pornstar) etc have ALOT Of scenes with tgirl bottoms.

And a lot of people are happy about that. In my earlier post I said it would be nice if someone would do.that featuring non-black tops too. For some reason you almost never feature non-black tops. So for guys who want to see something else they hve slim pickings. The bulk is in Brazil or Thailand. Reality Kings contracts a brazilian producer to make TrannySurprise for the fans who want to see tt guy on tb tgirls. You would think that producers who specialize in transsexual porn.would try not to ignore a.big.chunk of.their base. RealityKings, who make almost all straight titles is able to recognize an underserved niche that trans specialists do not.

[robertlouis]

Bullshit argument. In order for someone to learn you're doing transporn, they have to decide to watch it -- someone in the closet will never out you to out themselves.

Whip smart as always. I like you, Wendy Summers. :dancing:

[tragicomedy]

Bullshit argument. In order for someone to learn you're doing transporn, they have to decide to watch it -- someone in the closet will never out you to out themselves.

Oh come on...it is not about trans it is about being.in PORN. Heck.the trans part might open.an.angle.for a.law suit. But plenty of guya have lost their job for appearing in porn regardless of genre.

[Wendy Summers]

And a lot of people are happy about that. In my earlier post I said it would be nice if someone would do.that featuring non-black tops too. For some reason you almost never feature non-black tops. So for guys who want to see something else they hve slim pickings. The bulk is in Brazil or Thailand. Reality Kings contracts a brazilian producer to make TrannySurprise for the fans who want to see tt guy on tb tgirls. You would think that producers who specialize in transsexual porn.would try not to ignore a.big.chunk of.their base. RealityKings, who make almost all straight titles is able to recognize an underserved niche that trans specialists do not.

Honestly you're just not looking hard enough -- on my website I regularly bottom for white guys. It seems like Shemale Yum and Shemale Pornstar often have white male top scenes... I don't think its as uncommon as you make it out.

[Wendy Summers]

Oh come on...it is not about trans it is about being.in PORN.

I wasn't saying it was a trans issue -- I'm saying a guy who does ONLY transporn statistically speaking won't get caught. It's not like guys regularly stand around the water cooler talking about tranny porn. KWIM

[tragicomedy]

Honestly you're just not looking hard enough -- on my website I regularly bottom for white guys. It seems like Shemale Yum and Shemale Pornstar often have white male top scenes... I don't think its as uncommon as you make it out.

While we could.name a whole bunch of foreign sites that exclusively have guys of all races topping exclusively. The U.S. not so much. All other comments about race or brodening the talent pool are secondary to.seeing more content.where the tgirl is total bottom.

[bluesoul]

Bullshit argument. In order for someone to learn you're doing transporn, they have to decide to watch it -- someone in the closet will never out you to out themselves.

not sure this is necessarily true. most times, if someone is just browsing for adult material online they could stumble upon a slew of "spam type" websites that advertise and attempt to open even more random pages on one's browser window- or occasionally, even "sell" to a viewer more potential websites that are their affiliates.

someone recognize someone in this way- simply by mistake or by pure chance. in fact, nowadays, most people are able to edit (snip, cut and rename) their favorite scene and offer those for free streaming (illegally) which makes these kinds of accidents easier to come across.

in the case of transexual pornography, i've known of instances when people will offer questions like "would you fuck her?" only to reveal the full picture (frontal genitalia) later depending on the answer given.

[tragicomedy]

I wasn't saying it was a trans issue -- I'm saying a guy who does ONLY transporn statistically speaking won't get caught. It's not like guys regularly stand around the water cooler talking about tranny porn. KWIM

A lot of these people get caught by an anonymous email. I have seen it happen to.a great colleague of mine.

[bluesoul]

While we could.name a whole bunch of foreign sites that exclusively have guys of all races topping exclusively. The U.S. not so much. All other comments about race or brodening the talent pool are secondary to.seeing more content.where the tgirl is total bottom.

if i were you, i'd start a porn company that caters to exactly this "overlooked" niche. that way when you're racking in all that dough, you could look back on this thread as a foreshadowing of your genius.

[FreddieGomez]

actually the over sexualiztion of african american people is nothing new and can be found through out american history starting with slavery.

:iagree:

[tragicomedy]

not sure this is necessarily true. most times, if someone is just browsing for adult material online they could stumble upon a slew of "spam type" websites that advertise and attempt to open even more random pages on one's browser window- or occasionally, even "sell" to a viewer more potential websites that are their affiliates.

someone recognize someone in this way- simply by mistake or by pure chance. in fact, nowadays, most people are able to edit (snip, cut and rename) their favorite scene and offer those for free streaming (illegally) which makes these kinds of accidents easier to come across.

in the case of transexual pornography, i've known of instances when people will offer questions like "would you fuck her?" only to reveal the full picture (frontal genitalia) later depending on the answer given.
I have seen that too. Heck that is what.got.me.into transporn after seeing.how beautiful so.many of the Brazilians were. But I also hear guys say she is hot but "tranny porn" is.too much of the guy getting.fucked. Do.I blame.them for it? No because.that is.the lions.share of U.S. content. The.guy is.normally.either.vers or.bottom. All I am saying is that the folks who want to.see total.bottom.tgirls need more.content. Everything else is.gravy.

[TSPornFan]

Honestly you're just not looking hard enough -- on my website I regularly bottom for white guys. It seems like Shemale Yum and Shemale Pornstar often have white male top scenes... I don't think its as uncommon as you make it out.

This guy sounds shady. I think he has problems against black people especially black men. A person doesn't need to look far to find white tops in TS porn.

Shemale Pornstar, Shemale Yum, Shemale XXX, Shemale Club, T-Girl Network, Devil's Films, and Shemale Strokes feature many white males as tops. This guy is full of shit. There are some black male tops. There are also many white male tops in the business.

[rydermorrison]

A luchedor mask.allows you eye contact kissing etc. I will drop it obviously its not.going to happen. I would ask that people don't neglect fans who are total tops. We are ignored for.the most part. Bottom fans.and.vers guys get a lot to choose from but tops have to go.to.brazilian or thai sites.


I have seen that too. Heck that is what.got.me.into transporn after seeing.how beautiful so.many of the Brazilians were. But I also hear guys say she is hot but "tranny porn" is.too much of the guy getting.fucked. Do.I blame.them for it? No because.that is.the lions.share of U.S. content. The.guy is.normally.either.vers or.bottom. All I am saying is that the folks who want to.see total.bottom.tgirls need more.content. Everything else is.gravy.

thats just not true. Where are you watching your porn.? their is def a healthy amount of tg porn featuring the girl as a top but the "lions share" of hardcores is def guy on girl... Devil films' for instance usually has 3 out of 4 scenes on each dvd featuring the girls as only bottoms..

[tragicomedy]

This guy sounds shady. I think he has problems against black people especially black men. A person doesn't need to look far to find white tops in TS porn.

Shemale Pornstar, Shemale Yum, Shemale XXX, Shemale Club, T-Girl Network, Devil's Films, and Shemale Strokes feature many white males as tops. This guy is full of shit. There are some black male tops. There are also many white male tops in the business.

If I'm shady you're much worse. You make a bunch of threads and a blog about not having enough scenes with black dudes in them (even though most black guys are tops in their scenes) and I'm arguing just for plain old more tops in the U.S. scene and I'm the bad guy?

You and I are in the same boat buddy. I said I would be happy if there were more scenes where the girl is total bottom regardless of who the performer was. Stop being so hypocritical.

[tragicomedy]

thats just not true. Where are you watching your porn.? their is def a healthy amount of tg porn featuring the girl as a top but the "lions share" of hardcores is def guy on girl... Devil films' for instance usually has 3 out of 4 scenes on each dvd featuring the girls as only bottoms..

That is just devils films and we can't even get a whole title to ourselves. Trans might be the only genre in porn where people with very different tastes have to purchase the same stuff. I'm not asking to cut down on the stuff that makes other people happy, I'm just asking for more for top fans. That is money that goes to Brazilian and Thai producers instead of North American or European ones.

How is it that a producer of straight porn can farm out tt guy tb girl scenes and make it successful enough to keep it running for 5 years yet we're asking too much for trans specialists to give us just a series or a couple sites?

There are a bunch of sites with guys getting banged...yet a whole share of the population (not just guys mind you) gets basically neglected? That's a lot of money you guys are missing out on.

[VictoriaVeil]

That is just devils films and we can't even get a whole title to ourselves. Trans might be the only genre in porn where people with very different tastes have to purchase the same stuff. I'm not asking to cut down on the stuff that makes other people happy, I'm just asking for more for top fans. That is money that goes to Brazilian and Thai producers instead of North American or European ones.

How is it that a producer of straight porn can farm out tt guy tb girl scenes and make it successful enough to keep it running for 5 years yet we're asking too much for trans specialists to give us just a series or a couple sites?

There are a bunch of sites with guys getting banged...yet a whole share of the population (not just guys mind you) gets basically neglected? That's a lot of money you guys are missing out on.


Since the thread has become a little mixed up... are you saying you would like a site and/or dvds where men top tgirls? or vice versa? A little clarity can go a long way to getting what you want to see!

[TSPornFan]

If I'm shady you're much worse. You make a bunch of threads and a blog about not having enough scenes with black dudes in them (even though most black guys are tops in their scenes) and I'm arguing just for plain old more tops in the U.S. scene and I'm the bad guy?

You and I are in the same boat buddy. I said I would be happy if there were more scenes where the girl is total bottom regardless of who the performer was. Stop being so hypocritical.

Who the hell are you? I don't have a blog. I haven't made any threads complaining about the amount of black dudes in scenes.

You have a lot of mental problems. First you make lies about there being a lack of white men and TS bottoms. Now you're slandering me. Get help and fast.

[GroobySteven]

A luchedor mask.allows you eye contact kissing etc. I will drop it obviously its not.going to happen. I would ask that people don't neglect fans who are total tops. We are ignored for.the most part. Bottom fans.and.vers guys get a lot to choose from but tops have to go.to.brazilian or thai sites.

Or http://www.shemalepornstar.com or http://www.shemale.xxx or http://www.shemaleyum.com or http://www.black-tgirls.com in which the majority of scenes have the men as tops and not bottom/switch.

[GroobySteven]

while we could.name a whole bunch of foreign sites that exclusively have guys of all races topping exclusively. The u.s. Not so much. All other comments about race or brodening the talent pool are secondary to.seeing more content.where the tgirl is total bottom.

both those sites are almost exclusively american.

[GroobySteven]

TRAGICCOMEDY : You are full of shit. People on this forum that know far more about porn and this industry have told you that there are sites that feature almost exclusive men as top/girls as bottoms, that most of those men are white and that they're almost all US content - exactly what you're bitching about not having, yet you've failed to acknowledge that.
http://www.shemalepornstar.com (go and check out the samples)
http://www.shemale.xxx (go and check out the samples)

And then come back and have a moan. I'm with Franklin - I think your problems lie elsewhere.

[Jericho]

A LOT of guys would work for free.

Masks?
Yer having a laugh!
They might work for free but, who'd pay to see it?

I'm not handing over the hard-earned for something that looks like amateur hour! :shrug

[ARMANIXXX]

Masks?
Yer having a laugh!
They might work for free but, who'd pay to see it?

I'm not handing over the hard-earned for something that looks like amateur hour! :shrug

Agreed.


But to be honest....I don't think most are really paying at all these days anyways. lol

I'm not
*shrug*

[GroobySteven]

But to be honest....I don't think most are really paying at all these days anyways. lol

I'm not
*shrug*

Brilliant. What a stand up guy ... it's great that you find that hilarious but then want to have say in how it's produced.

[Cecil Rhodes]

It's well known that popular genetic female pornstars receive backlash for having sex with black men.

I thought about this after looking at Sunshyne Monroe's thread. Congrats for taking some BBC. However, there are some TS pornstars who refuse to have sex with black men. There are two types of people who do this.

Type number one- A TS who isn't attracted to black men. That's fine. We all have different tastes. That's not racist.

Type number two-A TS who refuses to have sex with black men solely based on skin color.

Sadly America is still a very racist country. We are not a unified group. Ignorant people have divided themselves based on skin color. They do not tolerate non-blacks having relationships with black men.

There has been a small increase in interracial relationships. However, not too many people are accepting of this. In my state it is still illegal on the books for African Americans to marry a White American. The law is not enforced. However, a judge could enforce it because it is on the books.

How much backlash do TS pornstars get for having sex with us sexy black men?

Are the TS pornstars who don't perform interracial racist or are the uninterested in black men?

There is no law on the books in your State that says african americans cannot marry White Americas

[Cecil Rhodes]

There are many new bottom scenes released every year especially by Grooby.

I think Christian is a good perform. You complain about guys with limp dicks. Christian doesn't have a hard on problem. What's your problem with him?

There are not many TS IR scenes. TS Seduction hasn't made an IR scene in over a year. Devil Film's rarely and I mean extremely rarely shoot IR scenes.

Grooby and SMC are the only companies that regularly shoot IR content.



I'm black and I find this to be very offensive. How is it a fetish to see someone my skin color fuck a TS woman? That's like saying black men are a fetish.

I'm offended because everytime i see a a scene, video, photo etc listed as Interrational it is alway Black On White . Why is it not White on Asian, Indian/Paki on Eskimo, Aboriginy on Maori etc

[GroobySteven]

There is no law on the books in your State that says african americans cannot marry White Americas

Correct ... although not too long ago.


2000

Following a November 7th ballot referendum, Alabama becomes the last state to officially legalize interracial marriage.

By November 2000, interracial marriage had been legal in every state for more than three decades thanks to the U.S. Supreme Court's ruling in Loving v. Virginia (1967) - but the Alabama State Constitution still contained an unenforceable ban in Section 102:
"The legislature shall never pass any law to authorise or legalise any marriage between any white person and a Negro or descendant of a Negro."The Alabama State Legislature stubbornly clung to the old language as a symbolic statement of the state's views on interracial marriage; as recently as 1998, House leaders successfully killed attempts to remove Section 102.

When voters finally had the opportunity to remove the language, the outcome was surprisingly close: although 59% of voters supported removing the language, 41% favored keeping it. Interracial marriage remains controversial in the Deep South, where a 2011 poll found that a plurality of Mississippi Republicans (http://civilliberty.about.com/b/2011/04/07/poll-only-40-of-mississippi-republicans-think-interracial-marriage-should-be-legal.htm) still support anti-miscegenation laws.

[Cecil Rhodes]

Correct ... although not too long ago.


2000

Following a November 7th ballot referendum, Alabama becomes the last state to officially legalize interracial marriage.

By November 2000, interracial marriage had been legal in every state for more than three decades thanks to the U.S. Supreme Court's ruling in Loving v. Virginia (1967) - but the Alabama State Constitution still contained an unenforceable ban in Section 102:
"The legislature shall never pass any law to authorise or legalise any marriage between any white person and a Negro or descendant of a Negro."The Alabama State Legislature stubbornly clung to the old language as a symbolic statement of the state's views on interracial marriage; as recently as 1998, House leaders successfully killed attempts to remove Section 102.

When voters finally had the opportunity to remove the language, the outcome was surprisingly close: although 59% of voters supported removing the language, 41% favored keeping it. Interracial marriage remains controversial in the Deep South, where a 2011 poll found that a plurality of Mississippi Republicans (http://civilliberty.about.com/b/2011/04/07/poll-only-40-of-mississippi-republicans-think-interracial-marriage-should-be-legal.htm) still support anti-miscegenation laws.

Still, there was no law that said an African-American could not marry a White American

[GroobySteven]

Still, there was no law that said an African-American could not marry a White American
Like I said, correct. Why reiterate?

[Cecil Rhodes]

Like I said, correct. Why reiterate?

there never was a law

[GroobySteven]

there never was a law

Are you going to use semantics between African-American and negro to make your point?

[ARMANIXXX]

Brilliant. What a stand up guy ... it's great that you find that hilarious but then want to have say in how it's produced.

A say in how it's produced?

I don't recall....

Not lately.

;)

[GroobySteven]

A say in how it's produced?

I don't recall....

Not lately.

;)

Look back a few threads, you already did.
:fu:

[ARMANIXXX]

Look back a few threads, you already did.
:fu:


I think you might be mistaken buddy.

Context is key.

[GroobySteven]

I think you might be mistaken buddy.

Context is key.

Not mistaken at all. You reply on a thread/post on how porn is being made (or not) then you're trying to have say on how it's produced whilst inferring that you are also stealing it.

[tragicomedy]

Since the thread has become a little mixed up... are you saying you would like a site and/or dvds where men top tgirls? or vice versa? A little clarity can go a long way to getting what you want to see!

Yep. I'm saying I'd like more guy top tgirl bottom content than is being produced now.

[ARMANIXXX]

Not mistaken at all. You reply on a thread/post on how porn is being made (or not) then you're trying to have say on how it's produced whilst inferring that you are also stealing it.

You know what...
Upon further review and inspection I agree with you. I was having a say with my "agree".


But am I stealing?
Your assessment (your guess) might be a bit premature.
Maybe on another topic another day, perhaps.

[GroobySteven]

Yep. I'm saying I'd like more guy top tgirl bottom content than is being produced now.

You haven't answered my direct questions?

[Cecil Rhodes]

Yep. I'm saying I'd like more guy top tgirl bottom content than is being produced now.

there is alot more of that than the other .

[Cecil Rhodes]

Are you going to use semantics between African-American and negro to make your point?

now you got it ......:dancing::dancing::dancing:

[Cecil Rhodes]

Ummm IR is NOT a fetish.

I am a white transsexual who is attracted too and only date black men in my personal life. I like black men for many reasons not because of porn stereotypes. Its like saying men who are into transsexuals is a "fetish"........for men who experiment then yea maybe a fetish activity but for those who date and prefer ts women its a lifestyle not a fetish.


I shoot alot of IR content and I have heard it all LOL

i thought it was a niche .

[GroobySteven]

now you got it ......:dancing::dancing::dancing:

Zzzzz. Given your choice of nicknames I don't think you should be even joking on that.

[tragicomedy]

there is alot more of that than the other .

I would agree with you if we were looking at the producers around the world. Let us look at North Amerixan producers: Evil Angel has series for just tgirls masturbating. They have series for vers performers. Do top.guys get a.nod? No. Kink.com has a different niches covered except total top guy and total bottom tgirl. Devils films has been doing more tt b tb g scenes but none of their series are exclusive and in times past it has leaned toward vers and.even tb b tt g. On the Euro side Nobili has tt g and tb b as well as vers and even hetero but no site for tt b tb g. Shemaleyum and shemale.xxx have plenty of top guy bottom content compared with the others if you don't mind fast forwarding through long parts of tbe scene where the guy is sucking dick or getting fucked with.a dildo etc. Tops can find multiple series and.sites from Thailand.and.Brazil based productions for.that.

[GroobySteven]

Shemaleyum and shemale.xxx have plenty of top guy bottom content compared with the others if you don't mind fast forwarding through long parts of tbe scene where the guy is sucking dick or getting fucked with.a dildo etc.

I can't recall one scene on Shemale Yum or Shemale.XXX where the guy is getting fucked by a dildo?
You're full of shit - shut up if you're not going to take notice.

[TSPornFan]

There is no law on the books in your State that says african americans cannot marry White Americas


there never was a law

You are partly correct. The law is no longer on the books. There was such a law in my state. You don't know what state I live in. How can you make such statements without knowing my state? My state did have that laws for many years after desegregation. The law was repealed in the late 1977s.

[TSPornFan]

I can't recall one scene on Shemale Yum or Shemale.XXX where the guy is getting fucked by a dildo?
You're full of shit - shut up if you're not going to take notice.]

I think this guy needs to get banned. He has no intentions on listening to the truth. He continues to slander your websites. There's no getting through to people like him. Just forget him and move on. He's a lost cause like Tito Jackson's solo career.

[tragicomedy]

]

I think this guy needs to get banned. He has no intentions on listening to the truth. He continues to slander your websites. There's no getting through to people like him. Just forget him and move on. He's a lost cause like Tito Jackson's solo career.

You have made ad hominem attacks on me. I said don't forget about more scenes.for all.tops not just black guya and you are getting angry. I did not slanders websites. You seeem to be the one with racial.prejudice as you.don't seem to want to even allow discussion of equal time for non-black tops.

[GroobySteven]

You have made ad hominem attacks on me. I said don't forget about more scenes.for all.tops not just black guya and you are getting angry. I did not slanders websites. You seeem to be the one with racial.prejudice as you.don't seem to want to even allow discussion of equal time for non-black tops.


YOU are the one who brought up equal time for non-black tops - and it's been answered, there are more non-black male performer as top scenes than blacks. Why do you continually refuse to answer my points?

[TSPornFan]

Seanchi your avatar is smoking hot! I'm normally not into small chested TS women, but Ryder Morrison can get it.

[WendyWilliams]

Franklin calling for him to get banned is a bit of "pot calling kettle black" considering you have made MANY crazy comments based on your PERSONAL taste and YOUR views on porn. You were never banned when many of your arguments were borderline rude. Just because we have all learned to ignore you doesnt mean we all have forgotten LOL...

[TSPornFan]

Franklin calling for him to get banned is a bit of "pot calling kettle black" considering you have made MANY crazy comments based on your PERSONAL taste and YOUR views on porn. You were never banned when many of your arguments were borderline rude. Just because we have all learned to ignore you doesnt mean we all have forgotten LOL...

I haven't been perfect. I have never said anything this crazy.

I have never and I mean NEVER said anything racist like this guy.

[WendyWilliams]

LOL Franklin he isnt being racist

And you have said mean things attacking girls with flat chests, blah blah.

Anyhow let it go, just an opinion no biggie.

[jamiethewild]

I haven't been perfect. I have never said anything this crazy.

I have never and I mean NEVER said anything racist like this guy.

You guys are tooooo female hormonal with that "card", take a chill pill.

[TSPornFan]

LOL Franklin he isnt being racist

And you have said mean things attacking girls with flat chests, blah blah.

Anyhow let it go, just an opinion no biggie.

I have not attacked TS women with flat chests. I said that I am not into flat chested TS women. That's not an attack. That's a preference.

You say that you prefer black men. By your standards then you're attacking white men. I know you're not attacking white men or any other racial group. Find certain features unattractive is never an attack on someone.


You guys are tooooo female hormonal with that "card", take a chill pill.

If you're not black then you don't have the right to tell us what is racist. It is racist when someone is claiming that black men want to abuse women sexually. I have not seen single TS porn scene with any racial group being degraded.


What about all the racist, beta, insecure black men who are fixated on IR porn featuring black men because it allows them to live out their black supremacist fantasies? It is about time we put you guys under the microscope.

[tragicomedy]

I have not attacked TS women with flat chests. I said that I am not into flat chested TS women. That's not an attack. That's a preference.

You say that you prefer black men. By your standards then you're attacking white men. I know you're not attacking white men or any other racial group. Find certain features unattractive is never an attack on someone.



If you're not black then you don't have the right to tell us what is racist. It is racist when someone is claiming that black men want to abuse women sexually. I have not seen single TS porn scene with any racial group being degraded.

In your reply you admitted.that kind of porn.DOES exist.but said.you weren't one of those guys. but later you try to shut down or discount discussion of shooting more scenes for fans of all.races who want to see the guy tt and girl tb and then throw.out the race.card. Then you tell Jamie that non-black people can't tell "us" what is racist. YOU are one of.those guys Franklin. You have been exposed.

[TSPornFan]

In your reply you admitted.that kind of porn.DOES exist.but said.you weren't one of those guys. but later you try to shut down or discount discussion of shooting more scenes for fans of all.races who want to see the guy tt and girl tb and then throw.out the race.card. Then you tell Jamie that non-black people can't tell "us" what is racist. YOU are one of.those guys Franklin. You have been exposed.

There are many scenes with white performers in TS porn. You're the only who is discounting the truth.

Racist porn mostly exists in straight porn. Every race is a victim of this type of porn. No one said it didn't exist. People have said this type of porn does not occur in TS porn.

[ARMANIXXX]

There are many scenes with white performers in TS porn. You're the only who is discounting the truth.

Racist porn mostly exists in straight porn. Every race is a victim of this type of porn. No one said it didn't exist. People have said this type of porn does not occur in TS porn.


Racist porn?

Explain.

[tragicomedy]

There are many scenes with white performers in TS porn. You're the only who is discounting the truth.

Racist porn mostly exists in straight porn. Every race is a victim of this type of porn. No one said it didn't exist. People have said this type of porn does not occur in TS porn.
You didn't read. I said we need to see.more not.that it doesn't exist. I said theres a big selection from Brazil and Thailand but not enough with U.S. girls. There is a domesticniche that needs to be better served.

[WendyWilliams]

Lets all take a break and enjoy this commercial

[ARMANIXXX]

Lets all take a break and enjoy this commercial

That rubber looks uncomfortably tight.

Maybe you should start supplying MAGNUMS.

I mean....That's the least you can do for a brah. ;)

[tsdvdman]

Lets all take a break and enjoy this commercial
Niiiiiiiiiiiiiice..:werd:

[WendyWilliams]

He had a magnum on and it rolled up

[bluesoul]

i have a solution for this problem: how about we get the black trannies to start wearing blonde and red colored wigs in order to give the appearance of different ethnicities and even... (i know this is a stretch) they even start going with names that hint at a different ethnicities.

this way, you're "kinda" having interracial sex but not really.

http://i.imgur.com/0I1QV.gif

[Willie Escalade]

i have a solution for this problem: how about we get the black trannies to start wearing blonde and red colored wigs in order to give the appearance of different ethnicities and even... (i know this is a stretch) they even start going with names that hint at a different ethnicities.

this way, you're "kinda" having interracial sex but not really.

http://i.imgur.com/0I1QV.gif

That's a biggie!

[danthepoetman]

Lets all take a break and enjoy this commercial

Niiiiiiiiiiiiiice..:werd:
:iagree:
Mmmm! lovely. Totally agree with that.

[Cecil Rhodes]

You are partly correct. The law is no longer on the books. There was such a law in my state. You don't know what state I live in. How can you make such statements without knowing my state? My state did have that laws for many years after desegregation. The law was repealed in the late 1977s.

No there wasn't .

[TSPornFan]

No there wasn't .

Are you from the US? It doesn't sound like it. Many states had laws against Interracial Marriage that were later repealed.

Again you don't know where I live. How the fuck are going to tell me about my state's current and past laws? Shut the fuck up.

[Cecil Rhodes]

Are you from the US? It doesn't sound like it. Many states had laws against Interracial Marriage that were later repealed.

Again you don't know where I live. How the fuck are going to tell me about my state's current and past laws? Shut the fuck up.

Because there were no african americans before 1985

[GrimFusion]

Because there were no african americans before 1985

Cecil; we get it already. Seanchai outted you five pages ago. This technicality you're exploiting for laughs isn't funny enough to turn into a running gag.

[GrimFusion]

In·ter·ra·cial (http://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/ibreve.gifnhttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/lprime.gifthttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/schwa.gifr-rhttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/amacr.gifhttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/prime.gifshhttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/schwa.gifl): adj.
Relating to, involving, or representing different races.
Conducted, involving, or existing between different races or ethnic groups.

I don't particularly like the term 'interracial porn' because the vast majority of it only involves two 'races'; Black and white. Describing it as 'black on white' or 'white on black' porn sounds overtly racist. Yet, truly interracial porn would get snubbed for the same 'black on white' porn that has defined the genre since 1972.

Thankfully IR porn today isn't nearly as ethically stereotyping or racially exploitative as it was years ago, but without the added taboo lacking in today's films, what's the point? IR porn is no longer a social outcry for equality, nor should it be considered taboo or illicit a sense of shock from porn viewers. Essentially, it lost all of it's pizazz years ago and that pizazz isn't even acceptable within modern society anymore.

If the genre isn't a draw any longer because it isn't considered taboo, then who watches interracial porn and why do they prefer it over other porn genres?

[tragicomedy]

In·ter·ra·cial (http://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/ibreve.gifnhttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/lprime.gifthttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/schwa.gifr-rhttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/amacr.gifhttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/prime.gifshhttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/schwa.gifl): adj.
Relating to, involving, or representing different races.
Conducted, involving, or existing between different races or ethnic groups.

I don't particularly like the term 'interracial porn' because the vast majority of it only involves two 'races'; Black and white. Describing it as 'black on white' or 'white on black' porn sounds overtly racist. Yet, truly interracial porn would get snubbed for the same 'black on white' porn that has defined the genre since 1972.

Thankfully IR porn today isn't nearly as ethically stereotyping or racially exploitative as it was years ago, but without the added taboo lacking in today's films, what's the point? IR porn is no longer a social outcry for equality, nor should it be considered taboo or illicit a sense of shock from porn viewers. Essentially, it lost all of it's pizazz years ago and that pizazz isn't even acceptable within modern society anymore.

If the genre isn't a draw any longer because it isn't considered taboo, then who watches interracial porn and why do they prefer it over other porn genres?

If anything, it is worse. Or it was worse from the early mid 2000s till fairly recently. There wasn't anything objectionable about a Sean Michaels or Ray Victory on the cover with a White/Asian/Latin chick in the porn of the 90s. Think about the horribly racist stuff that was on the covers of porn movies from this previous decade.

[doctor screw]

You guys are tooooo female hormonal with that "card", take a chill pill.

Says the racist...lol

[JenniferParisHusband]

Ummm IR is NOT a fetish.

I am a white transsexual who is attracted too and only date black men in my personal life. I like black men for many reasons not because of porn stereotypes. Its like saying men who are into transsexuals is a "fetish"........for men who experiment then yea maybe a fetish activity but for those who date and prefer ts women its a lifestyle not a fetish.


I shoot alot of IR content and I have heard it all LOL

I cannot believe I am going to stir this pot again. But I've been slandered on here, and it's time to adjust some people's perceptions to the truth.

Look, there's nothing racist about it. Clinically, it is a sexual preference towards a specific type of act, situation, or object. Situation being the key here. That's why they market these things specifically to a person seeking a special situation. I'm sorry if you don't like the word use. But it's not racist. Far from it.

Yes Wendy, you prefer Black Men, there's nothing wrong with it. But clinically speaking, it's considered a fetish. Deal with it. You may not like the word, but it doesn't make it any less valid.

And yes, the guys on here they have a sexual fetish (clinically defined anyway, as an object fetish) towards transgendered individuals. There is no judgment in it. If you prefer interracial scenes, it's a fetish. Again, there is no judgment in it. If you prefer white on white, black on black, asian on asian. It's still a fetish as defined, no judgment.

I have many of them myself, Transgender M-F, Asian (Can also be inter-racial), Small Breasts, Cum on the face, Pregnant chicks, french maid costumes. Not a damn thing wrong with any of them, all technically fetishes.

Hell Wendy, you market yourself to people looking for specific fetishes whether you want to admit to it or not. You are clearly the star of your little DVD's, yet you specifically advertise them with titles like "Dark Meat." Who do you think you are trying to market these to Wendy? It's not being aimed at some guy like me who doesn't care who's drilling you, it's specifically marketed at someone wanting to see inter-racial. I.E. SOMEONE LOOKING FOR A SPECIFIC FETISH!

Hey, look at this....
http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=8119125&style=ice
Categories: Shemale, Interracial.

Go to any adult DVD webpage, how are the DVD's categorized? By fetish. How about Seanchai's webpages? (Sorry to drag you into this, but only to prove a point) Ladyboy Ladyboy? See a lot of African American ladies on there? Why do you think that is? Probably because people are going there because they have "a sexual preference towards a specific type of act, situation, or object" in this case, Asian ladies.

People get so fucking defensive on here. Jesus. You may not like the word, but it applies 100%. It's not an insult, and it's not racist. And fuck you and Franklin for calling me racist!

[WendyWilliams]

Dude calm down, its no big deal. Porn Marketing using niche as a "fetish" wasn't what I was talking about. I was speaking of that Interracial as itself is NOT a fetish in a lifestyle............Branding is a totally diff. subject. PORN does have categories and labeled by "fetish" like TS, BBW, IR, blah blah but that's now how it sounded when you made the statement. I took it as you saying that the "lifestyle" of IR is "fetish" like activity thats why I responded.

"little" DVD's LOL...........


And you should learn to read I NEVER ONCE SAID YOU WAS RACIST so shame on you asshole.

[JenniferParisHusband]

I'm black and I find this to be very offensive. How is it a fetish to see someone my skin color fuck a TS woman? That's like saying black men are a fetish.

You seem to find anything that isn't you offending someone else to be offensive. First, grow the fuck up. You want me to give you a list of things you've said that are offensive to me over the years, it would fill ten pages on here. You're awfully quick to throw around racism, yet every fucking post seems to be about how fucking black you are. We get it. We also don't care. Black, white, you're still a raving douchebag.

Second, read my above post. Clinically defined, Sexual Fetishism is a sexual preference towards a specific type of act, situation, or object. So if you want to see someone "Of your skin color" fuck a TS woman, that is your preference. It also meets two clinical fetishes, Black preference, and TS preference. If you have thing for white ladies, add a third.

Again, you can hate the word fetish, nevertheless, it still applies. Man up, grow a set, and get used to it. That word isn't changing because Franklin and Wendy got their special feelings bruised.

And for calling me racist, you should appologize to me, then go die in a fire. Because you were totally off base for doing so.

Now, if we're going to throw insults at each other. First, you should be warned, you will lose. I get paid to argue for a living, and I've never lost. Second, I have to point out how much of a complete moron you are every time you open your mouth. We'll begin with your first comment...

"There has been a small increase in interracial relationships. However, not too many people are accepting of this. In my state it is still illegal on the books for African Americans to marry a White American. The law is not enforced. However, a judge could enforce it because it is on the books. " -Franklin

Again, you're a moron. There is this thing called the Constitution, ok? In it, the Federal Government has something called "Supremecy." Whoa, slow down there my little racist friend, it has nothing to do with you being black. Of course since everything you ever post has to do with you being black, I get why would think that. In this case, the world doesn't revolve around you. No, this simply means that the Federal Government laws are superior to your State's laws. In this case, the Supreme Court ruling way back in 1967 in the case Loving v. Virginia, that states can't restrict marriage based on race. So yes, if you live in the United States, every state, including the one that has my sympathies for having to put up with a complete and utter tool like yourself, grants you the right to marry somone of any color. Assuming that you can find someone stupid enough to be saddled for the rest of their life having to put up with your bullshit.

I can see how you missed out on Loving v. Virginia. It's only been around 43 years, that's hardly enough time for you to hear about such a thing, or figure out how to google something like that, or read the constitution. I'm sure you had more important things to do with your life... like watching interracial porn, and then bitching about it like little nancy who didn't get her way when the other girls didn't want to play "tea party" with their barbies.

Moving on to your second moronic statement...

"Type number one- A TS who isn't attracted to black men. That's fine. We all have different tastes. That's not racist. Type number two-A TS who refuses to have sex with black men solely based on skin color." - Franklin

Who the fuck are you to tell any woman what she has to do with her body? It's not of your concern who a provider CHOOSES to allow the privilege of their body.

Next, since you'll probably deny that EVERY-FUCKING-THING you post is about race, I give you the "Black Friday" shopping thread....

"So where's the discount? I thought this was a Black Friday thread? " -Franklin

MORON! MORON! MORON! MORON! MORON! Or we could go with your "greatest hits" and threads you've started including such hits as...
1) Let's talk about Interracial Porn
2) Good News For Black Men
3) What are the chances for a non-ghetto black man to get into porn
4) Dear Grooby, not all black men are thugs.
5) Yes, it's true I'm black
6) Why are most black girls poorly transitioned in porn?
etc. etc. etc.

[Cecil Rhodes]

I cannot believe I am going to stir this pot again. But I've been slandered on here, and it's time to adjust some people's perceptions to the truth.

Look, there's nothing racist about it. Clinically, it is a sexual preference towards a specific type of act, situation, or object. Situation being the key here. That's why they market these things specifically to a person seeking a special situation. I'm sorry if you don't like the word use. But it's not racist. Far from it.

Yes Wendy, you prefer Black Men, there's nothing wrong with it. But clinically speaking, it's considered a fetish. Deal with it. You may not like the word, but it doesn't make it any less valid.

And yes, the guys on here they have a sexual fetish (clinically defined anyway, as an object fetish) towards transgendered individuals. There is no judgment in it. If you prefer interracial scenes, it's a fetish. Again, there is no judgment in it. If you prefer white on white, black on black, asian on asian. It's still a fetish as defined, no judgment.

I have many of them myself, Transgender M-F, Asian (Can also be inter-racial), Small Breasts, Cum on the face, Pregnant chicks, french maid costumes. Not a damn thing wrong with any of them, all technically fetishes.

Hell Wendy, you market yourself to people looking for specific fetishes whether you want to admit to it or not. You are clearly the star of your little DVD's, yet you specifically advertise them with titles like "Dark Meat." Who do you think you are trying to market these to Wendy? It's not being aimed at some guy like me who doesn't care who's drilling you, it's specifically marketed at someone wanting to see inter-racial. I.E. SOMEONE LOOKING FOR A SPECIFIC FETISH!

Hey, look at this....
http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=8119125&style=ice
Categories: Shemale, Interracial.

Go to any adult DVD webpage, how are the DVD's categorized? By fetish. How about Seanchai's webpages? (Sorry to drag you into this, but only to prove a point) Ladyboy Ladyboy? See a lot of African American ladies on there? Why do you think that is? Probably because people are going there because they have "a sexual preference towards a specific type of act, situation, or object" in this case, Asian ladies.

People get so fucking defensive on here. Jesus. You may not like the word, but it applies 100%. It's not an insult, and it's not racist. And fuck you and Franklin for calling me racist!

Is rubber and latex a fetish/niche ? If so, would someone into NBCR ( nuclear, biological, chemical, radiological ) suits have a similar or seperate fetish ?

[JenniferParisHusband]

Dude calm down, its no big deal. Porn Marketing using niche as a "fetish" wasn't what I was talking about. I was speaking of that Interracial as itself is NOT a fetish in a lifestyle............Branding is a totally diff. subject. PORN does have categories and labeled by "fetish" like TS, BBW, IR, blah blah but that's now how it sounded when you made the statement. I took it as you saying that the "lifestyle" of IR is "fetish" like activity thats why I responded.

"little" DVD's LOL...........


And you should learn to read I NEVER ONCE SAID YOU WAS RACIST so shame on you asshole.

Fair enough. I took your comments to be implying I was such. You have my apologies for that.

[Cecil Rhodes]

Cecil; we get it already. Seanchai outted you five pages ago. This technicality you're exploiting for laughs isn't funny enough to turn into a running gag.

It was not meant for Seanchai, but then again he got it & it should have ended but NOooooooo certain persons it was intended for kept it going . I am like that . I try to help my fellow man with their education if i can . Remember i did not mention the " late 1977s " when it was brought up .

Oh, btw .... unlike certain members claiming be, I am an African-American .

[Cecil Rhodes]

Says the racist...lol

This looks like a nice spot for this :dancing::whistle::party:NED: Caveman Show - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m-ojuqX4g8&feature=player_detailpage)

[doctor screw]

This looks like a nice spot for this :dancing::whistle::party:NED: Caveman Show - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m-ojuqX4g8&feature=player_detailpage)

:party::party::party::party:

[TSPornFan]

Who the fuck are you to tell any woman what she has to do with her body? It's not of your concern who a provider CHOOSES to allow the privilege of their body.



I'm not going to respond to most of what you said at the moment. I never said a woman had to sleep with black men. What I am saying is that the REASONS for their rejection can be racist.

There is a big difference saying that you are not attracted to a race because of their physical features or saying that you find a race unattractive because of their skin color.



Dear Grooby, not all black men are thugs.


That thread was about how black men are are unfairly portrayed in porn as negative stereotypes. That's not a stupid discussion. As a black man I would like to see non-stereotype black men in porn.



Why are most black girls poorly transitioned in porn?

You didn't understand the topic. The topic was more about why are there very few attractive black TS in porn . A vast majority of black TS in porn are just starting out or are actually paid crossdressers.

I find white women attractive because of their physical features, not because of their skin tone. I find most black women unattractive because of their physical features. Their unattractiveness to me has nothing to do with their skin tone.


2) Good News For Black Men
Yes, it's true I'm black

Seriously? You don't know what a joke is?

[GrimFusion]

I'm not going to respond to most of what you said at the moment. I never said a woman had to sleep with black men. What I am saying is that the REASONS for their rejection can be racist.
*CAN* be racist, not that most white chicks who have a preference against sleeping with black dudes ARE racist. That's not your determination to make.


There is a big difference saying that you are not attracted to a race because of their physical features or saying that you find a race unattractive because of their skin color.
Skin color is a physical feature, dumb ass. Now, what did you actually mean? Girls who won't service black dudes because they heard horror stories from so-and-so about getting beat up? Girls who have had one or two bad experiences personally and judge an entire race by them? Those two situations certainly are racist and a bit of a better basis to support your arguments. Preference against any color skin tone is not.


That thread was about how black men are are unfairly portrayed in porn as negative stereotypes. That's not a stupid discussion. As a black man I would like to see non-stereotype black men in porn.
What are you looking for? College graduates? NAACP members? There's a point at which a dude has too much going for himself to be wasting his time doing porn. I mean, the three biggest stereotypes of male porn stars are also racist stereotypes against black men. They're unintelligent, after easy money, and somewhat misogynistic. I agree it'd be a nice change of pace if the majority of black dudes in porn weren't thugged-out looking body builders with a bunch of tattoos and mush-mouth, but as much as anyone could try to find male talent that doesn't fall into that category, most of the applicants kinda do.


I find white women attractive because of their physical features, not because of their skin tone. I find most black women unattractive because of their physical features. Their unattractiveness to me has nothing to do with their skin tone.
There are a lot of incredibly ridiculous and flat-out stupid reasons why racist white people don't like black people. Skin tone isn't one of the biggies. I don't know why you keep getting hung up on a preference against dark skin tones translating to brooding racism. Real racism assumes an entire race of people have the same aspirations, motivations, opinions, beliefs, and values. Skin tone may link all of those social victims together, but has very little to do with the assumptions a racist makes.

[Cecil Rhodes]

I think it is time to get this thread back on track .

Classic Movie Line #36 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulGdqcez2JM&feature=player_detailpage)

[GroobySteven]

MORON! MORON! MORON! MORON! MORON! Or we could go with your "greatest hits" and threads you've started including such hits as...
1) Let's talk about Interracial Porn
2) Good News For Black Men
3) What are the chances for a non-ghetto black man to get into porn
4) Dear Grooby, not all black men are thugs.
5) Yes, it's true I'm black
6) Why are most black girls poorly transitioned in porn?
etc. etc. etc.

Bwwwwahahah.

[robertlouis]

I always thought that this thread would earn in tears, or possibly all-out war.

[buckjohnson]

I have avoided commenting on this thread because the subject matter was scrambled and some of HA's worse and irritating posters are on it. But I want to hopefully offer some clarity and some finality to IR in porn. There is a poster on this thread that claims to like BM but in her features play to the worse stereotypes of BM. No additional commentary necc for that.
In my private life I date woman 20-25 years younger than me. I find that generation focus is on the physicality of sex, not the emotional connection that is the key component of sex. I look in their eyes and I can feel porn scenes playing in their sensory background, like "what should be my next move" I feel the porn industry is at fault for this and the extra focus on black physicality is a by-product.
I saw a scene with Sabrina (I think) with a black man that was perfect in its display of sexuality and emotional connection. It echoed how I like to make love, and offered no reflection on stereotypical BM behavior. A really well directed and produced scene.
I also fall into this trap of stereotypical thoughts. Sometimes when I am fucking a white woman, I have thoughts that she is only with me to fulfill a fetish/fantasy, which is nonsense. She is with me cause we connected, she is horny, I might be a good prospect in alleviating and solving the horniness, she is biologically driven to solve the horniness and I just might give her a few moments of joy and happiness, as well as creating an environment where she is psychologically / physiology, emotionally, and biologically fulfilled
This subject matter needs comments from more thoughtful folks than myself. Bottom line is that porn has helped corrupt the younger generation and their attitudes about black male. Other media depictions, from movies, music, TV etc...are worse. And I think we are all going to hell for embracing porn. I need a drink

[GroobySteven]

Yum!!!

[GrimFusion]

I have avoided commenting on this thread because the subject matter was scrambled and some of HA's worse and irritating posters are on it. But I want to hopefully offer some clarity and some finality to IR in porn. There is a poster on this thread that claims to like BM but in her features play to the worse stereotypes of BM. No additional commentary necc for that.
In my private life I date woman 20-25 years younger than me. I find that generation focus is on the physicality of sex, not the emotional connection that is the key component of sex. I look in their eyes and I can feel porn scenes playing in their sensory background, like "what should be my next move" I feel the porn industry is at fault for this and the extra focus on black physicality is a by-product.
I saw a scene with Sabrina (I think) with a black man that was perfect in its display of sexuality and emotional connection. It echoed how I like to make love, and offered no reflection on stereotypical BM behavior. A really well directed and produced scene.
I also fall into this trap of stereotypical thoughts. Sometimes when I am fucking a white woman, I have thoughts that she is only with me to fulfill a fetish/fantasy, which is nonsense. She is with me cause we connected, she is horny, I might be a good prospect in alleviating and solving the horniness, she is biologically driven to solve the horniness and I just might give her a few moments of joy and happiness, as well as creating an environment where she is psychologically / physiology, emotionally, and biologically fulfilled
This subject matter needs comments from more thoughtful folks than myself. Bottom line is that porn has helped corrupt the younger generation and their attitudes about black male. Other media depictions, from movies, music, TV etc...are worse. And I think we are all going to hell for embracing porn. I need a drink

Women of my generation don't just do that with black men, but with any dude who they assume is more sexually experienced. Black dudes do get bum wraps as man-sluts, though. How much of that is thanks to the IR porn industry? Very little, I'd suspect. The assumption seems to be hard-wired into society itself along with the stereotypical standards that black men are genuinely better in bed, black men always have huge dicks, and once a chick goes black, she never goes back. I don't understand how it seems to have had a more astounding effect in your case, but generally speaking it's assumed that black guys get around a lot more than any other race of men.

I can close to guarantee you that some of the white women you've slept with do view you as a fetish, but the more time you spend thinking and worrying about that, the less you're going to get laid so in a way it is nonsense because you won't be able to change their behavior, opinions, or fetishes; the best you can do is turn down the offer for sex and watch as they scuttle over to some other black guy who doesn't give a shit and just wants to get some fuckery on.

I don't really understand your gripe because in the second paragraph you complain that most of the young women you sleep with are emotionally disconnected during sex and in your fourth paragraph you've contradicted that and claimed most of the women you've been with don't see you as a fetish because their motivation is emotional, psychological, and physical fulfillment. Never mind that all three can be met whether you're a fetish to them or not.

[TSPornFan]

*CAN* be racist, not that most white chicks who have a preference against sleeping with black dudes ARE racist. That's not your determination to make.


Skin color is a physical feature, dumb ass. Now, what did you actually mean? Girls who won't service black dudes because they heard horror stories from so-and-so about getting beat up? Girls who have had one or two bad experiences personally and judge an entire race by them? Those two situations certainly are racist and a bit of a better basis to support your arguments. Preference against any color skin tone is not.


If you're not black then you don't have any business tell a black person what is racist and offensive. Rejecting people based on skin tone alone is RACIST. Skin tone is a physical feature. It is also a SOCIAL feature as well. Race isn't biological. Race is a social construction.

If a person has an issue with someone for any reason based on skin tone(race) then they are a racist like YOU.

[GroobySteven]

If you're not black then you don't have any business tell a black person what is racist and offensive. Rejecting people based on skin tone alone is RACIST. Skin tone is a physical feature. It is also a SOCIAL feature as well. Race isn't biological. Race is a social construction.

If a person has an issue with someone for any reason based on skin tone(race) then they are a racist like YOU.


No it's not racist. Rejecting someone for a relationship or to have sex with is subjective, if you're not attracted to a certain look then that's it. I've (white) friend who has absolutely no interest in white woman and would never consider dating or having sex with one, I've other friends who only will date red-heads (seriously). If someone isn't attracted to Blacks/Asians/Whites/Latins because of they way they look, including their skin tone, it's not racist, they're just choosing their preferences.

"If you're not black then you don't have any business tell a black person what is racist and offensive."

That's a pathetic and infantile comment - how dare you call for others to be banned, when you make a comment as offensive as that.

[GroobyKrissy]

If you're not black then you don't have any business tell a black person what is racist and offensive. Rejecting people based on skin tone alone is RACIST. Skin tone is a physical feature. It is also a SOCIAL feature as well. Race isn't biological. Race is a social construction.

If a person has an issue with someone for any reason based on skin tone(race) then they are a racist like YOU.

Wow.

I've been watching this thread with some amusement but these statements just kind of blew me away. This is just plain wrong... and ignorant.

As much as I hate to say it, Grim is right in what he said.

I've been told, "Oh, I don't like Asian girls" before, and I've never taken it to be a 'racist' comment. It is simply a preference. Oddly enough, I typically haven't enjoyed time spent with Asian guys so I don't usually respond favorably to guys who are Asian. So, I guess I'm racist against my own race. Go figure.

[TSPornFan]

I have avoided commenting on this thread because the subject matter was scrambled and some of HA's worse and irritating posters are on it. But I want to hopefully offer some clarity and some finality to IR in porn. There is a poster on this thread that claims to like BM but in her features play to the worse stereotypes of BM. No additional commentary necc for that.
In my private life I date woman 20-25 years younger than me. I find that generation focus is on the physicality of sex, not the emotional connection that is the key component of sex. I look in their eyes and I can feel porn scenes playing in their sensory background, like "what should be my next move" I feel the porn industry is at fault for this and the extra focus on black physicality is a by-product.
I saw a scene with Sabrina (I think) with a black man that was perfect in its display of sexuality and emotional connection. It echoed how I like to make love, and offered no reflection on stereotypical BM behavior. A really well directed and produced scene.
I also fall into this trap of stereotypical thoughts. Sometimes when I am fucking a white woman, I have thoughts that she is only with me to fulfill a fetish/fantasy, which is nonsense. She is with me cause we connected, she is horny, I might be a good prospect in alleviating and solving the horniness, she is biologically driven to solve the horniness and I just might give her a few moments of joy and happiness, as well as creating an environment where she is psychologically / physiology, emotionally, and biologically fulfilled
This subject matter needs comments from more thoughtful folks than myself. Bottom line is that porn has helped corrupt the younger generation and their attitudes about black male. Other media depictions, from movies, music, TV etc...are worse. And I think we are all going to hell for embracing porn. I need a drink

Porn isn't at fault. Look at American society's standards for black men. These stereotypes about black men have existed for many years before porn became so big and easy to access with a computer.

The same sterotypes we see in porn look just like the same stereotypes in other forms of media.

I'm not even close to a stereotype. Yet, I have experienced a white woman being scared of me because of my race.

[GroobyKrissy]

I'm not even close to a stereotype. Yet, I have experienced a white woman being scared of me because of my race.

So you have a stereotype of what is not a stereotype? Fun stuff.

[TSPornFan]

No it's not racist. Rejecting someone for a relationship or to have sex with is subjective, if you're not attracted to a certain look then that's it. I've (white) friend who has absolutely no interest in white woman and would never consider dating or having sex with one, I've other friends who only will date red-heads (seriously). If someone isn't attracted to Blacks/Asians/Whites/Latins because of they way they look, including their skin tone, it's not racist, they're just choosing their preferences.

"If you're not black then you don't have any business tell a black person what is racist and offensive."

That's a pathetic and infantile comment - how dare you call for others to be banned, when you make a comment as offensive as that.

You didn't clearly read my first post. I said it is NOT racist to reject someone because of their physical features. I said it is racist when you are rejecting someone because of their race. Their skin tone is what gives them their racial label even if their skin tone does not portray their race(I know some people who pass as Mexicans but are actually white or black).

If you're not from a particular racial group then you don't have the right to tell them what is racist. Like Stephen A Smith said "you're not black then you have not right to tell us what is racist". I'm not white. I don't know what white people experience on a day to day basis. I don't have the right to tell them what they should think is racist and what is not racist.

[GroobySteven]

You didn't clearly read my first post. I said it is NOT racist to reject someone because of their physical features. I said it is racist when you are rejecting someone because of their race. Their skin tone is what gives them their racial label even if their skin tone does not portray their race(I know some people who pass as Mexicans but are actually white or black).

Huh? You're talking in circles and making a fool out of yourself. You can have white Mexicans and black Mexicans (showing your own racism there, per chance?). A race generally gives someone their physical features - so it's the same thing.



If you're not from a particular racial group then you don't have the right to tell them what is racist. Like Stephen A Smith said "you're not black then you have not right to tell us what is racist". I'm not white. I don't know what white people experience on a day to day basis. I don't have the right to tell them what they should think is racist and what is not racist.
Absolute rubbish. There are idiots in all races and there are people in all races who understand more than many in races other than their own. Why the fuck would you listen to what a sports presenter has to say (I had to google him - obscure person to quote unless I'm missing something?)

[GroobyKrissy]

Huh? You're talking in circles and making a fool out of yourself.

This.

I could go through and point out each instance but no time or patience today, and Seanchai pretty much hitting the main points.

Talks about racism always seem to devolve into a, "Well you're not me so you've got no right..." type of conversation, which I agree, is total BS.

[TSPornFan]

Huh? You're talking in circles and making a fool out of yourself. You can have white Mexicans and black Mexicans (showing your own racism there, per chance?). A race generally gives someone their physical features - so it's the same thing.


Now I am fucking pissed off. Don't falsely quote what I said. You're putting words into my mouth.


I am not showing any racism. I have a friend who is ONLY WHITE. She looks like a Mexican. She doesn't have any Mexican relatives from either side of her family. People question her about her race all of the time. Saying what she looks like does NOT say certain racial group don't exist.

I never once said you can't have white Mexicans or Black Mexicans. How about you do me a favor and LEARN HOW TO READ AND COMPREHEND.

[GroobySteven]

Now I am fucking pissed off. Don't falsely quote what I said. You're putting words into my mouth.


I am not showing any racism. I have a friend who is ONLY WHITE. She looks like a Mexican. She doesn't have any Mexican relatives from either side of her family. People question her about her race all of the time. Saying what she looks like does NOT say certain racial group don't exist.

I never once said you can't have white Mexicans or Black Mexicans. How about you do me a favor and LEARN HOW TO READ AND COMPREHEND.

I didn't falsely quote you, I just repeated what you said. Is Mexican now a race?
Why don't you LEARN ... actually just stop there, the reading and comprehension will come later, you've got to pass the first stumbling block before you can reach them.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Steps in...looks around....runs the other direction lol

[TSPornFan]

I didn't falsely quote you, I just repeated what you said. Is Mexican now a race?
Why don't you LEARN ... actually just stop there, the reading and comprehension will come later, you've got to pass the first stumbling block before you can reach them.

Actually you did. You're not man enough to admit it. Oh well what do I expect from someone with a porno company that only portrays stereotypical black men.

[GroobySteven]

Actually you did. You're not man enough to admit it. Oh well what do I expect from someone with a porno company that only portrays stereotypical black men.

NO I didn't.
I think you're buying into your own stereotype.

[GrimFusion]

If you're not black then you don't have any business tell a black person what is racist and offensive. Rejecting people based on skin tone alone is RACIST. Skin tone is a physical feature. It is also a SOCIAL feature as well. Race isn't biological. Race is a social construction.

If a person has an issue with someone for any reason based on skin tone(race) then they are a racist like YOU.

Rejecting people based on a specific skin tone alone is racist; you're right. We're not really talking about rejection in the classic sense, though. We're talking about sexual preference. All I'm saying is that is a really oversimplified and juvenile way to observe the motivations of racism because it's incredibly rare that racism is about skin tone difference and that alone.

I could go on, but just never mind as you're obviously not mature enough to have this kind of a conversation. That's clearly evident as you've called me a racist without justifiable motive, reason, or provocation.

[TSPornFan]

Rejecting people based on a specific skin tone alone is racist; you're right. We're not really talking about rejection in the classic sense, though. We're talking about sexual preference. All I'm saying is that is a really oversimplified and juvenile way to observe the motivations of racism because it's incredibly rare that racism is about skin tone difference and that alone.

I could go on, but just never mind as you're obviously not mature enough to have this kind of a conversation. That's clearly evident as you've called me a racist without justifiable motive, reason, or provocation.

Racism is often about skin tone difference. Once again I'll use my friend for example. She is white, but most people think she is Latin or Mexican. Sadly some people treat her poorly based on this assumption. She does not have any Latin relatives.

I do agree that racism isn't completely based on skin tone. There are many other social and culture aspects in there as well.

[Cecil Rhodes]

If you're not black then you don't have any business tell a black person what is racist and offensive. Rejecting people based on skin tone alone is RACIST. Skin tone is a physical feature. It is also a SOCIAL feature as well. Race isn't biological. Race is a social construction.

If a person has an issue with someone for any reason based on skin tone(race) then they are a racist like YOU.

WTF ? The most racist group of all are those of sub-saharan african decent . you are correct though regarding not telling you what offensive is since there are large numbers of your group that are very offensive by your actions, attitude, lifestyle and bogus culture . Most are in their preteens to 40s and not limited to males . this group reflects on the decent ones in that catagory and causes a backlash on them .

what you tend to call racism or racist is actually a person being a realist .

[Willie Escalade]

:offtopic

Most folks here might not like the tone...but at least this topic/thread is sparking conversation!

:D

[GrimFusion]

Racism is often about skin tone difference. Once again I'll use my friend for example. She is white, but most people think she is Latin or Mexican. Sadly some people treat her poorly based on this assumption. She does not have any Latin relatives.

I do agree that racism isn't completely based on skin tone. There are many other social and culture aspects in there as well.

It's hardly ever just based on skin tone. I can't say never, as members of organizations like the kkk and the white power movement are very racist against anybody who doesn't have a pasty white skin tone, but otherwise there are always other underlying social and cultural issues involved. I mean, sure... skin tone is the basis of difference; that's how a racist decides who to treat fairly and who to discriminate against, but the reason for that discrimination is always more complicated.

Back when I was 15 my friend Gabe and I went out for a walk down to the local supermarket. On our way there, some dude's dog escaped from his yard, came out and started trying to bite Gabe so I stepped in the middle and pushed the dog back with my foot. At the same time, the dog's owner came storming out of the house. The guy was huge; probably pushing the 500 pound mark. I could tell he was drunk as hell too. He accused Gabe of kicking his dog and threatend to beat both of our asses. His poor wife came out and tried to talk him down, and eventually after whacking my friend upside the head once, he waddled back into the house.

I saw the event for what it was. Dude was drunk, misinterpreted something he saw, and didn't realize he was threatning violence on minors. Ever since then Gabe has been scared of the "black rage" and assumes all black dudes are one issue away from flying off the handle and going ape shit. In other words, he's racist. He avoids black people; black men specifically. I've tried talking to him but he continues to hold his position because he claims he'd been traumatically affected that night. Not to say his racist opinions are valid by any stretch of the imagination, but if you want to know why white people become racists, there's an example.

That's my point, though. Yes, he avoids people of dark skin tone... but because of negative personal experiences. It's not just because their skin tone isn't pasty white. Most racists I've ever known are like that. They've all got some kind of inexcusable and stupid personal reason that non-racists don't understand.

Willie is right; this has veered totally off-topic. I don't mind the conversation, though but if you want to continue talking about it, I'd suggest PM'ing me maybe?

[Willie Escalade]

Steps in...looks around....runs the other direction lol

:iagree:

http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/Grandpa_bfaf78_777622.gif

[JenniferParisHusband]

I'm not going to respond to most of what you said at the moment. I never said a woman had to sleep with black men. What I am saying is that the REASONS for their rejection can be racist.

There is a big difference saying that you are not attracted to a race because of their physical features or saying that you find a race unattractive because of their skin color.


No no no no no. You don't get to do that Franklin. Your whole fucking point is irrelevant. A woman doesn't have to take you into account in deciding what she wants to do with her body or who to do it with, EVER! Period! You seem to be missing that. She's racist, she just isn't attracted to African American men, it just doesn't matter, it's her body. It doesn't matter the reasons.



Seriously? You don't know what a joke is?


Yes, I'm quite good with jokes. In addition to being a lawyer, I've got a 13 year career going as a Stand Up Comedian. Apparently, you're not so good with jokes, which is why you wrote the following after my making jokes at your expense about how everything has to be about race with you...



That thread was about how black men are are unfairly portrayed in porn as negative stereotypes. That's not a stupid discussion. As a black man I would like to see non-stereotype black men in porn.

You didn't understand the topic. The topic was more about why are there very few attractive black TS in porn . A vast majority of black TS in porn are just starting out or are actually paid crossdressers.

Again, you're just kind of proving my points....

[JenniferParisHusband]

Yum!!!

Thanks! Jessica's always been one of my favorites.

[Stavros]

The most depressing aspect of this thread is the glib acceptance of the concept of race and the lack of any appreciation of culture and power be it in porn or society.

Race was wrapped up in the language of science in the 19th century to 'prove' that nature had created one 'race' of people who were superior to another and it just so happened (well, not really) that White Europeans were considered superior to the Arabs, the Africans and the Asians which is why restaurants in those parts of China controlled by the British used to have a sign that said 'No Dogs or Chinese' and why a 30-year old white man in Africa would order his 60-year old African 'boy' to shine his shoes.

What porn does is to replicate the varieties of cultural norms that revolve around the most fundamental relationship in human societies -the male and the female. The assumed relationship of power in this relationship is equivalent to 'top' and 'bottom' be it the missionary position in sex, or the concept of the man providing for a household he shares with a woman, the one who wears the trousers but not the dress; the one who must be obyed and the one who meekly obeys, etc etc; but critically, the one who penetrates and the one who receives. Top-Bottom, Active-Passive, Male-Female call it what you will, this relationship has existed since the beginning in spite of its contradictions, because in all societies this relationship is always being challenged and thus subverted, and often it is said that the men who most violently oppose any form of same-sex behaviour would rather like to try it, if they have not done so, in secret of course.

In hunter-gatherer socieities, for example, a stiff pointed object was used to kill an animal for food and the household products made from its hide and skeleton; a stiff pointed part of the body was/is used to create life: this unity of life and death is matched by the red and the white: blood and semen: on the one hand negative -the fear of blood shed in anger, symbolic of violence and death, and menstrual blood; and on the other hand positive: semen -the water of life- and breast milk. From these smelly bodily fluids entire societies have been shaped, and cultures with it.

How many transexuals first experienced sex when they were buggered at the age of 9 or 11 by their uncle and/or the neighbours and grew up thinking they must be women because they were penetrated? There is a record of this, by a Turkish transexual who went through this experience, it is not the only source of gender dysmorphia, but it might be more common than is acknowledged, owing to the stigma of sexual abuse, and in particular, or precisely, the act of being penetrated.

Consider the cultural importance of the scene in John Boorman's film Deliverance, when 'hillbillies' whose sexual mores have already been questioned in the film, rape a man, stripping him of his masculinity through the act of penetration, humiliating him; and then observe how the most macho of the 'city slickers' (Burt Reynolds) loses his virility while the others attempt to find theirs in that most 'manly' of pursuits -killing.

I suspect that Franklin can't tell the difference between 'race' and 'culture' and that the complaint about Black men in porn is about culture and power, or in his case, powerlessness. I am not even sure he has been able to negotiate his way through the varieties of Black American that exist, never mind anyone else, because these extensive differences exist across all of society, regardless of the people being Black or White or whichever label you want to stick on them.

And the cultural aspect is confused because modern America/society admits so many variations, that 'we' -or many of us- no longer live in a pre-modern society where gender roles are set in concrete living in accordance with rules derived from religion, we live in a modern/post-modern world where those old stereotypes have broken down, and what used to be allowed in stuctured events once a year in the calendar marked 'Carnival' 'Bacchanal' or 'Witches Sabbath' now take place impromptu, or in someone's apartment every night, and in porn films.

Culture, and the culture of power is at the heart of the debate, or should be, not this bogus concept of race.

[Cecil Rhodes]

No no no no no. You don't get to do that Franklin. Your whole fucking point is irrelevant. A woman doesn't have to take you into account in deciding what she wants to do with her body or who to do it with, EVER! Period! You seem to be missing that. She's racist, she just isn't attracted to African American men, it just doesn't matter, it's her body. It doesn't matter the reasons.





Yes, I'm quite good with jokes. In addition to being a lawyer, I've got a 13 year career going as a Stand Up Comedian. Apparently, you're not so good with jokes, which is why you wrote the following after my making jokes at your expense about how everything has to be about race with you...




Again, you're just kind of proving my points....

This looks like a nice place for a link .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=QfQWh8Q2hmc

[doctor screw]

:party::party::party::party:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqAHYPCLKmg

[Cecil Rhodes]

:party::party::party::party:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqAHYPCLKmg

Black People ? ..... African-Americans ? ..... Those terms are outdated and hence, RACIST . Does this guy not know the current term ? It is " Those On Free Or Reduced Lunch " .

How many of his group have been shot by cops on a bridge or anywhere else for that matter as compared to those shot by Those On Free Or Reduced Lunch ?

[doctor screw]

.......................LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZed_FpQxwI



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpfKCRYW_dQ

[Sinista]

Ummm IR is NOT a fetish.

I am a white transsexual who is attracted too and only date black men in my personal life. I like black men for many reasons not because of porn stereotypes. Its like saying men who are into transsexuals is a "fetish"........for men who experiment then yea maybe a fetish activity but for those who date and prefer ts women its a lifestyle not a fetish.


I shoot alot of IR content and I have heard it all LOL

Cosign