Let the Hysteria Begin

[onmyknees]

Andrew Sullivan ( and spare me the claims he's Republican...he's about as Republican as Prospero) not know for calm thoughtful analysis has given us a valuable window into left wing thinking. What other explanation could there possibly be for an Obama defeat except racism and the rise of the Confederacy once again? It certainly can't be his record. Yes folks...Jefferson Davis is alive and well. Even the historian George Will can't dislodge him from his baseless, foolish hysteria. Facts become obstacles for folks like Andrew and you all. What will Andrew's analysis be if his savior looses Wisconsin, Colorado or New Hampshire? Not to worry...he'll find some racists in those states as well. There's nothing more painfully amusing to me as a white liberal invoking race to describe the motivation of other whites. I'm convinced he's delusional. For gawd sakes Andrew...if your man looses, have some dignity....have you not fucking shame? lol


George Will Challenges Andrew Sullivan White Voter Racism, Confederacy Statement on 'This Week' - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhO9T-XXDyM&feature=player_embedded)

[Prospero]

Hmm.... a man of such generosity and likeabiity, our OMK.

[Stavros]

Andrew Sullivan ( and spare me the claims he's Republican...he's about as Republican as Prospero) not know for calm thoughtful analysis has given us a valuable window into left wing thinking. What other explanation could there possibly be for an Obama defeat except racism and the rise of the Confederacy once again? It certainly can't be his record. Yes folks...Jefferson Davis is alive and well. Even the historian George Will can't dislodge him from his baseless, foolish hysteria. Facts become obstacles for folks like Andrew and you all. What will Andrew's analysis be if his savior looses Wisconsin, Colorado or New Hampshire? Not to worry...he'll find some racists in those states as well. There's nothing more painfully amusing to me as a white liberal invoking race to describe the motivation of other whites. I'm convinced he's delusional. For gawd sakes Andrew...if your man looses, have some dignity....have you not fucking shame? lol


If you think Andrew Sullivan's political views are a 'valuable window into left wing thinking' then you are easily swayed. He represents himself, which is the best way to leave it. If I wanted an opinion on the electoral map of the USA, I would ask someone who knew what they were talking about, and it isn't him. Andrew Sullivan emigrating to the US to try and become an American did us a favour on this side of the pond. Somehow I feel that as you enter the last week of your election, you are struggling, and you find it easier to attack Obama than produce a single positive thread on Willard Romney.

[buttslinger]

During the Primaries the mantra was "anybody but Romney"
Now it's "anybody but Obama"

Hysterical.

[buttslinger]

"You can fool some of the people all of the time" -from the Inauguration Address of President Williard "Mitt" Romney

[giovanni_hotel]

It's childish to assume Obama's race plays no factor at all in the minds of some voters.
Race alone won't be why Obama wins/loses reelection, but to deny it's NOT a factor is wishing on rainbows.

It's one of the reasons Romney doesn't talk about his Morman faith in any great depth, because of the latent bigotry in the American electorate.

[Prospero]

It's childish to assume Obama's race plays no factor at all in the minds of some voters.
Race alone won't be why Obama wins/loses reelection, but to deny it's NOT a factor is wishing on rainbows.

It's one of the reasons Romney doesn't talk about his Morman faith in any great depth, because of the latent bigotry in the American electorate.


Succinct and on the money. Well put Giovanni.

[trish]

It's childish to assume Obama's race plays no factor at all in the minds of some voters.
Race alone won't be why Obama wins/loses reelection, but to deny it's NOT a factor is wishing on rainbows.

It's one of the reasons Romney doesn't talk about his Morman faith in any great depth, because of the latent bigotry in the American electorate.
Amen

[Willie Escalade]

I was reading this story (http://www.nationalmemo.com/lol-of-the-week-speaking-for-god/) when I came across the following comment:

"President Dwight D. Eisenhower created the Federal Interstate System, credited with beginning mass movements of individual people from place to place in this country. He started it in 1956, by authorizing the Federal Highway Act. And the Republican Congressmen (there were NO WOMEN in Congress at that time) and Senators both agreed that Ike had to be nuts.

"That's too much money!" they argued, "not even General Motors has the kind of money that it will take to build all those cross-country roads! How does uprooting Americans benefit anyone!?"

Ike just smiled, and replied: "What benefits the American People, will (in this case) also benefit General Motors." He smiled, then added: "And vice versa."

The Republicans shut up and quit bothering the President, and America soon had a road system that was then----and still is now, in many places---the very best road system in the whole world; to be copied by any country that wanted to build decent transportation for its citizens.

That's what happens when Republicans shut up, go away, and take their own ugly 'reality' (that they are so eager to foist on the rest of us), away with them. America's greatest achievements have always been at the hands of Democrats; open your American History books, if you don't believe it. American's saddest downfalls have, alas, always occurred at the hands of Republicans. All anyone has to do to prove that, is to number our disasters and then look at the party that was in power at the time.

Republicans, for whatever the reason, are happy living in their own reality. For them, Wall Street collapses, bank failures; the recessions and Depressions that follow---those are the good times. Things like the Space Race, that we won (just barely)---achievements such as what put the very first men on the moon, bringing them back alive----only Democrats could have managed those things successfully. Republicans live to deny the facts of the matter and even the matter itself, if they feel that they can get away with it.

Who doesn't remember the Republicans DENYING the fact of our Moon Landing in 1971? "It was STAGED!" they screamed, over and over and over, "It was FAKED! They didn't land on the moon, they walked on a movie set! Wake up, people, the whole Moon Landing was FAKE!" They only shut up about the Moon Landing being fake, when the PLAQUES that the astronauts put up on the moon, received such wide publicity all over the world, and the satellites took pictures of them and beamed them back to Earth.

These people are America's enemies, first and foremost just tolerating the rest of the American people. If they feel that they can grab money from us---that, they don't hesitate to do. If you doubt that, just think of the Bush tax cuts and how unconscionable those were:

How quickly Republicans took advantage of America's tragedy, using it to lie to people for eight long years, during which our budget surplus (provided by Clinton) was thrown out the window; two wars were put on America's credit card (for our children AND grandchildren to pay off) and worst and most unconscionable of all---his first year in office, Bush instituted the most regressive tax system of all time! Slashing a tax rate that stood --in the 1960s to the 70s---at 95%, to what it is now at MAYBE 10%---if our super-wealthy even bother to pay that.

THAT'S Republicans. Creating a world of misery that WE PAY for and WE LIVE IN, while they--the Republicans----have robbed their SUPPOSED 'fellow'-Americans and placed fully ONE THIRD of us, into Bankruptcy and bankruptcy-related conditions. Their most egregious actor, Mitt Romney, is now the Republican candidate for the US Presidency.

If elected this year---what with all the practice they've had, in creating misery---Republicans would usher into this country, an era of pain so vast and deep, that not even Democrats--with all the practice that they've had fixing Republican economies---would ever be able to correct, any more!

Thus, America would be lost to our enemies within--always and forever to be known as Republicans (or Teabaggers or whatever the hell they want to call themselves)---WE know them for what they are: the enemies of everything that Americans hold dear. The destroyers, of the most powerful, wealth-creating engine that the world has ever seen----the American Middle Class.

Gone....without a shot being fired.

Just...gone.

Most especially---think about THAT, this Tuesday after next!"
:iagree:

[Prospero]

Talking of roads.

[trish]

One minor hole in the story, Ike was a republican. True enough he had to grapple with a republican congress that didn't share his vision, but they went along with him because he was a republican too; and he was the general who saw us through WWII. The interstate hi-way system was a brilliant vision and we owe much of our economic power to it. It is also an example of a huge government project and even today it's an ongoing government project to maintain and extend it. Who said government doesn't create jobs?

Ike also warned of the military-industrial complex, an idea is integral to the ultra-conservative vision that sees government as evil (though somehow they never seem to see corporations that way).

When Ike was asked to endorse a space program Ike called it, "ping-pong in the sky."

My favorite Ikism is, "Things are more like they are today, than they have ever been before."

So as you can see Ike often let his GOP side shine through. Thankfully, he was possessed with at least one progressive vision: the interstate hi-way system.

[Prospero]

My favorite Ikism is, "Things are more like they are today, than they have ever been before."

Did he REALLY say that? Remarkable. I've heard it before but not the attribution.

[fred41]

Who doesn't remember the Republicans DENYING the fact of our Moon Landing in 1971? "It was STAGED!" they screamed, over and over and over, "It was FAKED! They didn't land on the moon, they walked on a movie set! Wake up, people, the whole Moon Landing was FAKE!" They only shut up about the Moon Landing being fake, when the PLAQUES that the astronauts put up on the moon, received such wide publicity all over the world, and the satellites took pictures of them and beamed them back to Earth.

..I don't remember this, but then...I was only 9 years old at the time. I couldn't find anything saying the Republican Party denied the moon landing.
...Can someone else find this for me?
...just curious.

[hippifried]

My favorite Ikism is, "Things are more like they are today, than they have ever been before."

Did he REALLY say that? Remarkable. I've heard it before but not the attribution.
Sounds like "Stengalese" or a "Yogiism".


I don't remember it being Republicans that denied the moon landing. It's always been the same conspiracy nuts who still deny it today. Back then, most of the lunacy was pushed by the Birchers. There was no love loss between them & the Republicans. Nowadays it's the "birthers", the "truthers", the "Rothchilds own the Fed" nuts, ad nauseum. Of course they've been invited into the new crazier tea bag totin' Republican party, along with the egoist cult & "America should be part of the 3rd world" austerity fanatics, in order to swell the numbers & make them seem more legit so the media will be polite. & we thought politics was silly before the "information age".


BTW: The interstate highway system was built as a national defense project.