Skyfall

[loveboof]

I saw Skyfall last night. It was really good! Definitely the best of the new Bond films...

Javier Bardem has certainly done no harm to his career from this performance (steals the show imo).

And it was nice to give a bit more depth to Judy Dench's M [not sure about Moneypenny though.. ?]

[danthepoetman]

Thanks for the tip, Loveboof. I stopped watching the Bond movies a good while back. If this one is that good, I might just give it a try...

[Dino Velvet]

This one I'll see. Did Bardem ever call James Bond "Friendo"?

No Country For Old Men Friendo Edition - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZSVk1QLMxc)

[ILuvGurls]

I thought the trailer said next month for the opener.

[Nicola]

Going to see it next weekend for my birthday, it has good reviews here in the uk

[youngblood61]

Will give it a look.:-)

[loveboof]

I thought the trailer said next month for the opener.

Well it's already out in the UK.

There's a few plot holes, but nothing on Prometheus levels or anything.
Would definitely advise you guys to see it in the cinema... :)

[RallyCola]

I thought the trailer said next month for the opener.

there are sneak previews out in the US already as well. there were 2 theaters in nyc showing it yesterday at 7pm but i couldn't get tickets.

from what i can tell, this should be better than quantam.

[loveboof]

from what i can tell, this should be better than quantam.

Oh yeah, it's much better than quantum of solace. I hope Sam Mendes does another one...

[Avers]

REALLY poor quality movie. The worst one of all J.Bond series. With participation of completely old, sick, tired, ill and almost dying actress as ex-"M" and with constatation of almost dying China communism.

[lifeisfiction]

I do not want the movie ruined for me, like bonds new ruined hair cut. I will not visit the thread till the movie is out. (I may peek from time to time, lol)

[RallyCola]

well...even out side this thread...if you have read any reviews, you see that this movie is almost a prequel to the bond series because of how it ends but that really doesn't ruin anything

[loveboof]

REALLY poor quality movie. The worst one of all J.Bond series. With participation of completely old, sick, tired, ill and almost dying actress as ex-"M" and with constatation of almost dying China communism.

Judi Dench is a great actress. And wtf are you talking about communism for?!

I doubt you've even seen the film to be honest, but if you dislike it for those two reasons that's fine. lol

[Prospero]

I'm not a fan of the New James Bond (though i am going to see it at the weekend). My favourite Bond remains Sean Connery. The Bond fiims then had a gentle sense of fun alongside the action - a wry sense of humour. Although they look pretty creaky compared to the visual power of the new films, that sense of fun has vanished I think. Bond now is just anothera ction hero.

[GroobySteven]

Great storyline for a Bond movie. Great action.
Excellent.
That guy obviously hasn't seen the movie.

[Prospero]

I don't get it - coming on here and claiming to have seen a film. What is the point of that?

[Avers]

>And wtf are you talking about communism for?!

Relax. The China communism. Or the communist China. The abandoned isle manifests the revenge of USA/GB to China (in this movie) for the China independent foreign policy of these last years. This is the best way to show to the whole world that communism in China does not exist anymore, that with help of money, industry and infrastructure the USA did to the China the same thing as they did to USSR in 90-th. The China communists transformed to capitalists. The abandoned isle in this movie is the best way to show to the whole world (and to the chinese people) the future of China without USA technological and financial assistance. Puf ! And this country does not exist anymore. The same as it happened to that isle.

>I doubt you've even seen the film to be honest, but if you dislike it for those two reasons that's fine. lol

No way to lol. Because if you did not check an enormous broken statue of Mao Zedong on abandoned isle (an Asian prostitute has been killed there, near Mao statue head, with the glass of alchool drink on her own head) this means only that YOU did not seen this movie. Or that you don't know, who Mao was. Or that you don't understant the sense of this epsiode. Of course, the USA propaganda works here well.

The things with J.Bond movies come from worse to worst. Each film is a good action play. But the question, common for all of them, is - what all these movies have common with James Bond stories, movies and traditions ?

[RallyCola]

I don't get it - coming on here and claiming to have seen a film. What is the point of that?

because it feeds his ego.

that said, i do know someone who has personally seen it at one of the nyc screenings and decided to give me his review of it. generally our opinions are in sync for movies but i will reserve judgement until i see it myself because i was told that the main issue with the movie is the believability of the situations james finds himself in and the ease of his escapes each time. he said it ruined the movie for him because it was almost cheesy. cheesy or not, he does seem to coincide with the reviews that I have read that the so-called realism that Casino and Quantam had over the older movies is lost in this flick but i really don't care...it looks awesome so i will see it opening night if i can't get into one of the previews.

wanna hear something odd...i will try to find the link...but i read one review that was talking more about cloud atlas and argo and their chances for the oscar for best picture and the author actually said skyfall deserves a best picture nod.

its simple...this isn't a movie i was pining away for...anticipating its release with baited breath, but it does look entertaining and that's all that matters.

[GroobySteven]

>And wtf are you talking about communism for?!

Relax. The China communism. Or the communist China. The abandoned isle manifests the revenge of USA/GB to China (in this movie) for the China independent foreign policy of these last years. This is the best way to show to the whole world that communism in China does not exist anymore, that with help of money, industry and infrastructure the USA did to the China the same thing as they did to USSR in 90-th. The China communists transformed to capitalists. The abandoned isle in this movie is the best way to show to the whole world (and to the chinese people) the future of China without USA technological and financial assistance. Puf ! And this country does not exist anymore. The same as it happened to that isle.

>I doubt you've even seen the film to be honest, but if you dislike it for those two reasons that's fine. lol

No way to lol. Because if you did not check an enormous broken statue of Mao Zedong on abandoned isle (an Asian prostitute has been killed there, near Mao statue head, with the glass of alchool drink on her own head) this means only that YOU did not seen this movie. Or that you don't know, who Mao was. Or that you don't understant the sense of this epsiode. Of course, the USA propaganda works here well.

The things with J.Bond movies come from worse to worst. Each film is a good action play. But the question, common for all of them, is - what all these movies have common with James Bond stories, movies and traditions ?

Oh WTF. Someone has been trying to write a piece for The Guardian and pulled some big theories out of their arse. You're creating your own semantics to support your theory.

Q: If you dislike Bond films so much, then why did you go and see this one?

[loveboof]

Why would a British made film, as part of the longest standing British movie franchise, be interested in furthering 'USA propaganda'?

The abandoned island is not saying anything about waning Chinese communism...

[bluesoul]

I'm not a fan of the New James Bond (though i am going to see it at the weekend). My favourite Bond remains Sean Connery. The Bond fiims then had a gentle sense of fun alongside the action - a wry sense of humour. Although they look pretty creaky compared to the visual power of the new films, that sense of fun has vanished I think. Bond now is just anothera ction hero.

+1

the new bond seems to be trying taking inspiration from the bourne series, which originally was an attempt at making an amerikan bond film of sorts. i even noticed the music has progressively gotten worse

[GroobySteven]

+1

the new bond seems to be trying taking inspiration from the bourne series, which originally was an attempt at making an amerikan bond film of sorts. i even noticed the music has progressively gotten worse

You clearly cannot remember the Timothy Dalton Bond's which were extremely Americanised. The Daniel Craig ones are more British in substance than many previous ons and the Adele theme is the best we've had for a while also, very reminiscent of the older Bassey type themes.

Have you actually seen it?

[bluesoul]

You clearly cannot remember the Timothy Dalton Bond's which were extremely Americanised. The Daniel Craig ones are more British in substance than many previous ons and the Adele theme is the best we've had for a while also, very reminiscent of the older Bassey type themes.

Have you actually seen it?

yes i saw an advance screening. i do remember the dalton years and didn't like those either (possibly worse than the brosnan years).

i actually like daniel craig a lot- i just don't like the direction/tone they've taken with the franchise. also disagree about the adele theme- but i think it's much better than the moby and alicia keys (i believe that was her) songs which were possibly the worst additions to the bond franchise. btw: when they didn't the recent retrospective on bond music (http://www.oscars.org/events-exhibitions/events/2012/10/bond.html), they curiously omitted anything after goldeneye

[MdR Dave]

I kind of like the Daniel Craig bond. Seems a bit more human, somehow, and less glamorous. Grittier, rougher.

My least favorite, though some of the villains were OK, were the Roger Moore films. Sooooooo cheesy. He just wasn't believable.

[robertlouis]

I'm not a fan of the New James Bond (though i am going to see it at the weekend). My favourite Bond remains Sean Connery. The Bond fiims then had a gentle sense of fun alongside the action - a wry sense of humour. Although they look pretty creaky compared to the visual power of the new films, that sense of fun has vanished I think. Bond now is just anothera ction hero.

I agree with you. The earliest of the canon followed the original novels pretty faithfully - I always liked Dr No, From Russia with Love - with Robert Shaw the best and most plausible villain - and the wonderful Goldfinger. Once the gadgets moved to centre screen, the importance of character became minor, to the detriment of the films - less grit, more glitz.

That said, Craig has given Bond back the hardness and animal quality that Connery showed and none of the others did. And I'm going to see it at the cinema too.

Well, it's Bond, innit?

[ed_jaxon]

RL I was going to say the same thing. I read a few of the novels when I was growing up and they were far more straight forward. I prefer Craig to any other Bond other than Connery. This is the first of the series that I have actually looked forward to since I was a kid.

[loveboof]

also disagree about the adele theme- but i think it's much better than the moby and alicia keys (i believe that was her)

You mean Jack White & Alicia Keys?

I think the Adele/Paul Epworth theme is actually pretty good for a bond theme...

It has the right feel imo.

[Avers]

>If you dislike Bond films so much, then why did you go and see this one?

I see the movies of JB because I like them. If I disliked the JB films "so much", there were no discussions about it. I simply could go and see any other film. But unfortunately the last one successful and well-made movie of this series was "The Casino Royal". The first one with Craig. All other movies have "zero" as final mark. These are the poor shades of previous series.

>The abandoned island is not saying anything about waning Chinese communism

Dou you really think so ? Or you simply prefer to don't see that ? There are no any useless details and episodes in modern USA/GB movies. In China people already make protests against this movie because of this episode with Mao. And you still thinks that it "is not saying anything" ?

[GroobySteven]

Dou you really think so ? Or you simply prefer to don't see that ? There are no any useless details and episodes in modern USA/GB movies. In China people already make protests against this movie because of this episode with Mao. And you still thinks that it "is not saying anything" ?

Please send me the link on where people are making protests about it in China? I do know this is the first the first Bond filmed in China.

"There are no any useless details and episodes in modern USA/GB movies." - that's a silly comment, sounds like a poor art teacher trying to prove a point. You need to include details to create mise en scene. If the casino had been in Russia and not Macao, the island and hence the statue would have been of Stalin. It was creating the scene. Seriously, you don't need to read into every little item and to criticise a film beause of something you've read into it (yet nobody else seems to) it's a little weak.

Liking any film is subjective but I fail to see how anyone who likes the proper Bond films, doesn't see this as one of the best to the series there has been, and certainly not to rate it a zero.

[Prospero]

I suspect that one of the problems with Avers' posts - and the points he is making - is that English is clearly not his first language and he may have used Google translate or Babelfish or something similar to render it into English. I've tried to use those tools to translate various obscure stuff from say Serbian or Catalonian into English and it produces a high degree of nonsense. That's my generous view of his remarks.

[loveboof]

Do you really think so ? Or you simply prefer to don't see that ? There are no any useless details and episodes in modern USA/GB movies. And you still thinks that it "is not saying anything" ?

As Seanchai said, the abandoned island was just a set piece! It was ruinous because it had been deserted and left to the whims of a Bond villain...

If the film is attempting to ask anything extra of us, it is simply about the relevance of an old fashioned 'man-on-the-ground' spy tactic in a digital age. The film is very clearly pushing this idea. Your suggestion of Chinese communism is far too tenuous to be an intelligent application of a propaganda message within one of the biggest films of the year!

(You're reading way too much into an incredibly minor moment in the film - What is the total screen time of that collapsed statue? I'm willing to bet it's substantially less than the screen time devoted to Heineken...)

[Avers]

>The film is very clearly pushing this idea.

No way. There is an attempt to do it but it's not so evident as it pretends to be. The problem is that the creators of these movies don't have any idea about the future of JB serial. If compared to all modern "spy actions" the traditional JB movies with theirs traditional values can be considered as too conservative. This is the same thing as the "Rolling Sones" in modern age. The representatives of old generation. Still alive, old, sick and tired and ... ridiculous. Not modern. The same is for JB movies. The main concept of these movies is too old. And all attempts to transform it for modern people make them look ridiculous. So, that's why they have less and less common with traditional JB movies with theirs "spy charms". And tehirs creators try to invent something new that can support theirs popularity in competition with modern "bloody spy actions". For example - the banality of electronic spy.

>Please send me the link on where people are making protests about it in China?

Well, check Google. It helps. The reaction is strongly negative.

>Your suggestion of Chinese communism is far too tenuous to be an intelligent application of a propaganda message within one of the biggest films of the year!

Do you remember the chinese prostitute killed on the isle with broken Mao statue ? Yes, it's minor episode, but it's very eloquent. According to it, the China should not forget its place in modern world as also the modern chinease elite created by the West (manifested by this prostitute, elevated by Western electronic gangster). If no, according to this propaganda element, this country has a risk to finish by the same way as this isle, depopulatred by small "push" of international conjoncture provoqued by all these electronic spies, etc. And this elite will find itself on the same place as this prostitute. All is clear and simple. Of course, this is not the main idea of this movie. But the reason to place it in this movie right now, because of independent and active international policy by China, is evident.

[GroobySteven]

Well, check Google. It helps. The reaction is strongly negative.



I did and I couldn't find it in either English or Mandarin?

[Frankkm]

REALLY poor quality movie. The worst one of all J.Bond series. With participation of completely old, sick, tired, ill and almost dying actress as ex-"M" and with constatation of almost dying China communism.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWdd6_ZxX8c

[loveboof]

The problem is that the creators of these movies don't have any idea about the future of JB serial. If compared to all modern "spy actions" the traditional JB movies with theirs traditional values can be considered as too conservative. Still alive, old, sick and tired and ... ridiculous. Not modern. The main concept of these movies is too old. And all attempts to transform it for modern people make them look ridiculous.


You clearly just don't like James Bond films! Why are you pretending that you do?

You're really beginning to bore me. Ask yourself this:

How many people are going watch the film and take anything about communism in China away from it? An incredibly (irrelevantly) small amount of people!

Now ask yourself whether this is an effective propaganda mechanism for devaluing communism if such an absurdly small number of people recognise the message you claim is there? IT MAKES NO SENSE!

So far, the reasons you disliked the film were because of Judi Dench's 'old-woman' performance, the 'tired' formula, and a blatant anti Chinese communist message?! Stop being such a tool...

Yes, there is a 'pro-British' message - it's James Bond for fucks sake!
(As a Frenchman do you find that hard to swallow?)

[GroobySteven]

Bond v Hugo Drax - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ouXB-prFxw)

[robertlouis]

I did and I couldn't find it in either English or Mandarin?

Have you seen it yet Steven? I'm putting it off till next week in the hope that the cinemas will have become civilised again after the kids go back to school.

[Avers]

>You clearly just don't like James Bond films!

Who said that ? I "clearly" like all old JB movies. Excellent school of cinema. Have you ever seen them ? Or you have just seen the JB series with Craig ? Modern JB movies have nothing to compare with old ones with theirs excellent plots, bright colours, interesting ideas, brilliant actors, etc. And today we can see only the special effects with pretention of gloomy actors play. First you should simply watch any of old JB movies and next you should go and see this latest film to understand this difference.

[GroobySteven]

Have you seen it yet Steven? I'm putting it off till next week in the hope that the cinemas will have become civilised again after the kids go back to school.

Went to a Sunday night show and the audience was extremely well behaved - no talking, no texting - I was quite impressed. Last time I went to the cinema was in US and my blood pressure went through the roof as I yelled at someone for texting every few mins.

It's a really really good film. A lot of fun, great actors, the story works. Deserves the reviews it's been getting in the UK.

[GroobySteven]

>You clearly just don't like James Bond films!

Who said that ? I "clearly" like all old JB movies. Excellent school of cinema. Have you ever seen them ? Or you have just seen the JB series with Craig ? Modern JB movies have nothing to compare with old ones with theirs excellent plots, bright colours, interesting ideas, brilliant actors, etc. And today we can see only the special effects with pretention of gloomy actors play. First you should simply watch any of old JB movies and next you should go and see this latest film to understand this difference.

Idiot. Of course they're different, they're 40-50 yrs apart
Bright colours? You're talking about Connery era when that was the colour of the film stock. They were great films but its like comparing The Searchers with Deadwood or Unforgiven. They were films for different times. The latest Bond not only had an Oscar winning director who done a great job - but also four Oscar winning/nominated actors in Judi Dench, Albert Finney, Javier Bardem and Ralph Fiennes as well as Ben Wishshaw.

If you didn't like the film that's fine - but don't talk out of your arse making criticism's which clearly are in-correct.
I've seen every Bond film multiple times - there are some hits and some misses among them irrelevant of the actor or period, but the Daniel Craigs, having watched them all in the past 3 weeks are excellent storytelling, acting and lend to the franchise well.

Best of Bond: Cringeworthy Moments [HD] - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf8_WiSSsAU&feature=related)

[Prospero]

The place i go to see most movies is extremely respectful of the film makers' art. NO ONE texts or uses their phones. On one occasion one girl who did have her Iphone on was literally frogmarched out of the place by another member of the audience.

he downside is that - as most of us are in the business - you sometimes have to sit through total dreck (it's sort of considered disrespectful to talk out) ... including the mammoth credit sequences of some films which list every person who worked on every aspect of it in every country. (production canteen staff - Guatemala, Drivers - Morocco et etc ) So if there i a lot of 3D or special FX you can imagine the credit can last five or six minutes. In a normal cinema screening most people are already on their way home by the time the credits finish.

No animals were harmed in the production of this post..

[Prospero]

What is your all time favourite Bond film Steven - and the worst?

[GroobySteven]

What is your all time favourite Bond film Steven - and the worst?

Best in terms of how many times I've watched it and enjoy all of it is probably Live and Let Die. For Brosnan era it was Goldeneye. I love OHMSS also and for Connery, Thunderball.

The worst - but difficult. Obviously remove Never Say Never Again as not one of the proper franchise. Timothy Dalton ones were awfully made but I'd have to say, A View to a Kill was pretty awful.

[Prospero]

I retain great affection for Goldfinger.

[Jericho]

I hated the idea at first but, I think Daniel Craig has the possibility of becoming "Bond", the Bond everyone remembers.
He adds a physicality to the role that's been missing of latter day Bonds.

Connery (A conscienceless killer, before he got soft)
Craig ?
Timothy Dalton - Brought back the killer
Pierce Brosnon - Last was his best
George Lazenby - Never really got a chance
Roger Moore - If you could kill someone with a raised eyebrow...

[MdR Dave]

I hated the idea at first but, I think Daniel Craig has the possibility of becoming "Bond", the Bond everyone remembers.
He adds a physicality to the role that's been missing of latter day Bonds.

Connery (A conscienceless killer, before he got soft)
Craig ?
Timothy Dalton - Brought back the killer
Pierce Brosnon - Last was his best
George Lazenby - Never really got a chance
Roger Moore - If you could kill someone with a raised eyebrow...

Nice list, J. I see Craig overtaking Connery if they make enough movies.

There, to me, is an uninvolved quality to Bond as Connery played him.

[Avers]

>Idiot.

Fool like you.

>Of course they're different, they're 40-50 yrs apart

Today they should be better, but not worse.

>They were films for different times.

It does not pardon the directors of these modern movies for all possible and impossible attempts to "catch the conjoncture".

>The latest Bond not only had an Oscar winning director who done a great job

Normally, modern personal Oscars are given for commercial success of the movie and for participation in this success of director, etc. team members. So, today the Oscar is not any more the sign of well made movie.

>If you didn't like the film that's fine - but don't talk out of your arse making criticism's which clearly are in-correct.

I really don't like this latest JB movie. As also the previous one. And I have all rights to say about it. We still have a democracy and the possibility to say "yes" and to say "no" then we find it necessary. Of course, this latest one is not the total "trash" as the movie, but the good evidence that the idea of JB movies degradates day by day. And if we add here the anti-China propaganda, - manifested by bestroyed colossus of Mao, - this degradation will become even more evident and rude.

AFAIK even the Russian people were pleased to see the old JB movies with all stupidities about USSR and modern Russia. Old JB movies were really popular there for years. Because people there understood well that it was a perfectly-made kitsch. Even if it was a kitsch about theirs country and about themselves. But now ... There is no more kitsch in JB movies. But there are the signs of political conjuncture. And people also understand it well. This time - not in Russia but in China.

>I've seen every Bond film multiple times - there are some hits and some misses among them irrelevant of the actor or period, but the Daniel Craigs, having watched them all in the past 3 weeks are excellent storytelling, acting and lend to the franchise well.

Well, then you should remember that originally J.Bond was a marine officer. And even dressed as civilian he should look like marine officer and not like cheap gigolo. This quality was obligatory respected by all old JB movies directors. The main character of JB movies always looked like the British marine. And now look at Daniel Craig and tell me there do you see the marine officer ? For him it will be better to play the Soviet KGB officers of 60-th / 70-th of Gestapo agents. But not the UK marine officer J.Bond.

[GroobySteven]

The main character of JB movies always looked like the British marine. And now look at Daniel Craig and tell me there do you see the marine officer ? For him it will be better to play the Soviet KGB officers of 60-th / 70-th of Gestapo agents. But not the UK marine officer J.Bond.

Yes I do. Explain why you don't?

[Jericho]

Nice list, J. I see Craig overtaking Connery if they make enough movies.

Indeed.
If he keeps up, he will be THE Bond that everyone thinks about. Think he was a great choice (20/20 hindsight).

Though, got to agree with Shaun Locke, Adele singing the theme tune of the latest film may have been a mistake (they want someone who can pronounce Skyfall).
Everytime i hear it, i think Scaffold!

[loveboof]

Who said that ? I "clearly" like all old JB movies. Excellent school of cinema. Have you ever seen them ? Or you have just seen the JB series with Craig ? Modern JB movies have nothing to compare with old ones with theirs excellent plots, bright colours, interesting ideas, brilliant actors, etc. And today we can see only the special effects with pretention of gloomy actors play. First you should simply watch any of old JB movies and next you should go and see this latest film to understand this difference.

I've grown up watching James Bond on film & TV. I have seen them all.

So just to clarify, you find the new James Bond movies 'tired, old, and ridiculous', but like the old films which embody those things even more so... OK...

[surf4490]

They deliberately looked for a more rough round the edges working class Bond ,Mi6 guys/girls are either analysts (geeky university grad or political animals )or the grunts (SAS/SBS Marine commandos ) Bond was always a cross between the two that didn't exist in the real world.He is becoming more of the latter .

[lifeisfiction]

Did anyone ever read the books. The Bond that is protrayed is what Iam Flemming books described. Every actor has contributed something to the genre. I am glad Bond gets emotions. I still say Daniel Craig is my favorite Bond, because he is the one Bond if he was coming after you your pretty much dead. And the only Bond to do more pursuing then chasing. The only time Bond was all buisness was in Diamonds are Forever opening. Beyond that Bond was dangerous, but never threatening until now.



I still keep laughing at the idea Timothy Dalton was an Americanized bond when in fact Pierce Brosnan was born in America. Timothy just reflected the era, like Never Say Never and View to a Kill.

[GroobySteven]

when in fact Pierce Brosnan was born in America. Timothy just reflected the era, like Never Say Never and View to a Kill.

First time I've heard that? He was born in Ireland.

Never Say Never Again didn't reflect an era. It came out the same year as Octopussy which was actually pretty good. What it reflected was making a "knock off" Bond due to some contact clauses or other bumph. It was just bad. The Dalton Bonds were bad because they had poor directors and little money thrown at them. The re-booted Goldeneye had higher budgets and better production values including a quality director.

[GroobySteven]

Geordie Peacock in Our Friends in the North.

Daniel Craig/James Bond as you've never seen him before! - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7QnzTsiL5Q)

If you haven't seen it check it out - UK mini-series from 1996 that kickstarted the careers of Daniel Craig, Chris Ecclestone and Mark Strong.

[Prospero]

Skyfall last night. First up the most remarkable thing was that, at the industry screening I attended, in the audience was none other than Sean Connery! Checking on the way the latest Bond handles things i guess. And M of course and the newest Q.

Anyway it is a great romp of a film - the opening chase one of the best ever and, though a little long, grips your attention all the way through. I think the Bond franchise is in great hands.

However Daniel Craig brings no personality to the role at all. He has steely eyes, perfect physique and is macho to the Nth degree. But every now and then you glimpse the notion of a mind of interest before it runs away and hides.

There is thankfully a little more wit than the first of the Craig Bonds - and I've never summoned the will to watch Quantum Of Solace.

All in all though - a good evening's entertainment. Nothing more, but nothing less.

[liisawinklergirl]

Watched the premiere last week here in PI. It was phenomenal. Daniel Craig was impressive and Javier Bardem was a Hannibal Lectern in the making (possibly the glass cage had something to do with it LOL)

The opening scene was gripping and Bond getting shot and seemingly about to die totally set the tone of the movie...many of the scenes were shot in Asia too which lent a good variety to the movie...There were a lot of scenes that were visually beautiful especially for photography purposes...

It's a must-watch! ;-)

[ed_jaxon]

Saw it this week and I fucking loved it. First time I can say that since i was a kid.

Craig is great in the role and I thought they did a good job giving a backstory to his emotional flaws both with his past and the juxtaposition of he and Bardem.

Having worked for women bosses at times, I thought Dench nailed that role of having to be tougher than a man to be respected.

If you are going to see the movie small spoiler alert.

So a couple of weeks ago I was with a girl who I trust implicitly who said Daniel Craig gets down with trans girls. So when he says to Bardem "What makes you think this is my first time?" I giggled my muthafuckin head off.

[lifeisfiction]

First time I've heard that? He was born in Ireland.

I had to double check that and you were right about it. I always remember watching a program that said he was born in the US, but his parents moved at an early age. I was wrong with that.

I did see Skyfall. Daniel Craig is my fav bond. He reminds me of what Ian Flemming would have wanted. Its a good movie.

I do like the Timothy Dalton's Bond. I am one of the few, but I will stand by it. I prefer him over George Lazenby's Bond.

[Odelay]

*** SPOILERS BELOW ***

A 007 film being derivative of previous 007 films is no surprise. But I was a little surprised that this one had some derivative parts of other non-007 films. The opening loosely steals from the Bourne series, getting shot, landing in water, and then going off the grid. I didn't mind that too much.

But the ending is awfully identical to Outlaw Josey Wales, right down to boarding up the windows before the onslaught occurs. I guess I preferred the Clint Eastwood original, better. And the granny in the Josey Wales shootout had a bit more gumption than M in this one.

[nausicaa]

Decentb Bond - not the best - but so much better than Quantum. Liked the fact tht the last bit was genuinily new (for Bond) but made many nods to the tradition (the guitar riff finally kicking in with the aston for example...) Really enjoyable.

[Odelay]

Watched the premiere last week here in PI. It was phenomenal. Daniel Craig was impressive and Javier Bardem was a Hannibal Lectern in the making (possibly the glass cage had something to do with it LOL)

The opening scene was gripping and Bond getting shot and seemingly about to die totally set the tone of the movie...many of the scenes were shot in Asia too which lent a good variety to the movie...There were a lot of scenes that were visually beautiful especially for photography purposes...

It's a must-watch! ;-)
Lisa, you're right. The Shanghai shots were great. Makes me think I might want to visit someday.

And Ed, I laughed too over the scene where he insinuates he might have had a bi experience, but now it's funnier knowing Craig's procliviities.